I have been doing some digging in an attempt to determine what the rest of the schedule looks like but details are limited. The team’s second home game will come on Sunday the 27th when Sidney Crosby and the Pittsburgh Penguins come to town.
Apparently the Toronto Maple Leafs will be at Scotiabank Place three times this year. That means the Leafs are one of the divisional opponents that Ottawa will play five times. The Habs will be in town just twice.
What I do know is that the schedule is complete at this point. The league is simply waiting for the players to vote on the new CBA before releasing all the details. The NHLPA player vote is expected to wrap up on Saturday morning.
And on another note, there really does seem to be a lot of trade winds swirling around the Ottawa Senators right now. The Sens are deep at forward and in goal and could use that depth to shore up the back end. Safe to assume the buzz will increase once the CBA becomes official this weekend.
Would not be at all surprised to see Bryan Murray pull the trigger on something before the season opens on January 19th.
I think they try out free agency befre they make a trade.
What we do have that we can comfortably move is forward depth. As good as Puempel and Noesen may be, it's not written in stone and I think there could be high demand for forwards like them (not necessarily them in particular).
Damn, Yakupov would have been good also, we should have made a move with Edmonton
Get real
I don't agree at all. I think any rebuilding team has to have a veteran goalie that can handle pressure, high volume shotload and can motivate a team
Edmonton had the right idea with khabibulin but he was too old and injury prone. But look at that team when Dubnyk struggles, they crumble
Rebuilding with two young goalies is a recipe for disaster and thats why columbus sucked as soon as they let Mathieu Garon walk
Anderson provides stability on a team that will inevitably have high and lows
If we are to trade a goalie it should and will be Bishop simply because Anderson is locked up, can be a starter now, is getting older and I don't see him mind gearing down into a split load with lehner in a year or two and then ultimately being a veteran backup
We shouldn't have to question our goaltending for a while shoudl that strategy play itself out
Touche
With Columbus having 3 first round picks , I think they can spare one for the likes of a Goaltender and Zibby + 3 round pick? we are so loaded up front we can afford to give something up.
They just traded for bobvroski and have the awful mason
they aren't going to trade a top end pick for a goalie. put it this way what would you rather have:
Bishop (we aren't trading lehner) + zibby + 3rd pick
or
a d core of Murray-Jones-Ja ck Johnson with a later 1st round pick spent on a goalie
Depending on type of dman I could see:
Zib going for a 2/3 dman
Puemple + pick for a 3/4 dman
combination of pageau/prince/p etersson/hoffma n + pick for a 4/5 dman
Hjalmarsson keeps coming up but I really think that's because there was interest there before. Not sure if that is still an option.
Will pass along more when/if possible.
This is one thing that has always bothered me about the AHL, the lack of info you get. You never hear anything about injuries beyond the initial problem. You never get any details on game day starting rosters. It really does make it hard to be a fan of the AHL, when you don't get all the same details the NHL throws in your face daily.
If the AHL came up with more info regularly, especially during the lockout, I think it would have attracted many more hardcore NHL fans, who follow that stuff on a daily basis. But, as is the case... with the NHL taking back to the Ice, most fans who did start following the A, will more than likely tune out again.
I did hear a report that Zibanejad has been back on the ice in a full training practice and has had no problems since Tuesday between skating and the gym. They are saying he could play this weekend. Bingo does play Friday and Saturday, so I wouldn't expect him in both games. I'd have to think that if Ottawa doesn't pull Silf and the gang for tonight's game, they more than likely won't be playing Saturday. And that's when Zib will probably lace them up to try and make up a little of what was lost. It's hard to say though.
Thanks for that. You are right about the lack of info coming from the AHL. I know that OC sat out Eberle et al as soon as they knew the lockout was over, and I guess i thought The Sens would do the same with their top guys...
And for the Anderson trade yalpers - come on guys, besides Hasek - Craig's been our most dependable puck-stopper .... when it matters. Sorry Lalime - truth hurts - I'm still in therapy dealing with issues from the '04 ECF game 7 goal & your melt down vs the Leafs the following year.
Anderson is a keeper!
Pun intended?
I disagree with the stay at home d, we need a guy who can contribute offensively and on the powerplay as well as being solid defensively. Hjalmarsson fits the role perfectly.
And Z. Michalek
I was hoping Murray would sign him when he has a FA, instead we got lame ass Gonchar.
Hahaha - you got it!
I still don't understand why Phoenix brought him back when they have so many stud D prospects. I think he'd be a good addition as well.
We could try to trade for him as well! Phoenix has too many "NHL ready" D and need forward prospects (since we fleeced them for Turris).
This year:
Methot-Karlsson
Hjalmarsson-Michalek
Phillips-Gonchar
Next year:
Cowen-Karlsson
Hjalmarsson-Michalek
Phillips-Methot
Kinda sexy... We'd probably have to give too much to get that though.... One or the other would be good.
Methot-Karlsson
Hjalmarsson-Michalek
Phillips-Gonchar
Next year:
Cowen-Karlsson
Hjalmarsson-Michalek
Phillips-Methot
Kinda sexy... We'd probably have to give too much to get that though.... One or the other would be good.
Wishful thinking I'm assuming, but no way we get BOTH Hjalmarsson and Michalek. I could see us MAYBE getting one or the other, more realistically, Hjalmarsson out of Chi town-they need a goalie, Bishop would fit perfect with them, doesn't make that much and could push for the starting job.
I'm assuming we would have to package a 3rd rounder/or prospect??
Washington tried that system under Boudreau where they played a very offense-oriente d system.
It worked great in the regular season, getting them 1st/2nd in the Conference.
But they struggled in the post-season when Defence plays a more major part of the overall game.
And you don't want to rely on the PowerPlay to win you series... Just ask Vancouver 2 years ago, when they were diving all over the place to force a penalty call.
Wishful thinking I'm assuming, but no way we get BOTH Hjalmarsson and Michalek. I could see us MAYBE getting one or the other, more realistically, Hjalmarsson out of Chi town-they need a goalie, Bishop would fit perfect with them, doesn't make that much and could push for the starting job.
I'm assuming we would have to package a 3rd rounder/or prospect??
Most definitely wishful thinking and not very realistic. One can dream....
Yeah I would have to assume Lehner is the least likely to be dealt unless it's for a bonafide blue chipper. Even then it would be a gamble of sorts.
Bishop is the easiest to give up given his contract and that he's sort of less ready "now" than Anderson but less of a prospect than Lehner. But he also probably brings the least in return.
Thanks - I have been looking for some ideas for D in my NHL13 team. I rarely play past one season so I'm fine with giving up a ton of prospects to make those trades happen.
But yeah, in real life that's a big dream. Either of those guys (without giving up anything too crazy) would be HUGE and I think possible.
Really depends on whether management makes this a long term acquisition or a stop gap, do they want a two way dman or a shut down guy.
outside of Hjalmarsson, there is also Nick Leddy (awesome) and Rozsival who would be more of a temporary fix until next year, he logged over 20 minutes a night last year in Phoenix.
interesting, so that would be 4x4 for 16 games leaving 32 games for remaining 10 conference teams...makes no sense lol
unless it will actually be a 46 game season then it makes sense of 4 games vs division and 3 games vs conference teams
What would the team do for jerseys though!?
M. Stone I
M. Stone II?
Seems like a problem that would be hard to overcome.
Murray should trade Anderson AND Gonchar while he can. Gonchar is in great shape and ready to compete. Anderson's value is high coming off almost upsetting NYR last spring.
So you ask who are potential trade partners.
Washington, Florida, Philadelphia and Edmonton.
Philadelphia is only there because of the chance to get Gonchar as a rental and buying out Bryzgalov possibly. Anderson gives them the goaltending stability they need and the Flyers window is closing.
Washington, Florida and Edmonton all have depth up front and are missing a legitimate starting goalie. (GOnchar is only a rental for a playoff run).
What we get in return it all depends but based on trends the past few season I would expect a top 4 D man, Prospect and a pick for both Anderson and Gonchar.
What are you talking about? What does one player have to do with the entire system? A two-way dman fits in with Maclean's system far more than a one dimensional stay at home dman. We have Cowen. Methot, Phillips, and Boro who are more stay at home dman, now we need a multi-dimension al guy like Hjalmarsson or Michalek who can play a regular shift on the powerplay, who are mobile and who are solid defensively and can play regularly on the pk.
If true, that means the schedule Ottawa received yesterday has been changed. Definitely had the Leafs here three times. Bizarre that they would change that now...
players dont jump from the AHL to a top 4 role in the NHL right away or at least very, very seldom -it's a recipe for disaster for the team and hinders the players long term developoment.
young defensemen need to be isolated and graduate through the process at the NHL level, this includes watching games from upstairs some nights.
With all due respect, there is way too much concern from fans about players feelings specific to where they fit at the NHL level...if you are the best option you play, if you aren't, you don't.
Lastly, Flyers aren't buying out Bryzgalov- they just signed him...
Think that may be misinformation. They will play some division teams 4 times, some 5.
Ma Stone and Mi Stone (is typically what they do)
Honestly it is ridiculous that they both just don't have their singular last name. You would think with the player's number plastered in fifty different locations they would not even be looking at the name plate at this point.
"I think what we want to do here with Cody is reset him, reset his season. This certainly is no disreprect to the 67's, they've had a tough year...he's part of it. He's gonna move on now to a better team, obviosuly [sic] when you get traded from a low team to a higher team. He's gonna be counted on there heavily, and he's gotta be ready for that. And I think by coming in here, and getting a little bit of coaching from our guys on what we expect in the second half from him - it's a different situation so expectations are different. Put a lot of the onus on him to step up his game, and I think by starting him here with good players here it gives him a chance to just walk in there and you know have no issues on changing teams."
Totally agree - this also takes the pressure of him and might see a better mini-camp from him. Chance is 1% that he makes the team in any event, so it makes sense to focus on his development. Similar situation for Noesen.
Bogosian could and should be a 1st pairing Dman. He however could also be very good as a 2nd pairing guy with Gonchar. He moves the puck great but his primary focus is defene. That's exactly what we need. The best part about him is he is still under contract for this year so would essentially be playing for a long term contract/spot along side the top defenceman in the world.
I'm not sure he's available but Murray could tempt them by offering Zibanejad and/or Bishop because A) their forward prospect depth isn't the greatest and B) Pavelec is their clear starter but has been having trouble plus did just have a DUI so they may want a backup whose capable of pushing for a starter position.
My biggest concern when discussing a trade for a Dman is that we don't need a 3/4 or 5/6 guy. We have plenty of those for the future and no point of trading for a guy for a short term fix. We need a 2/3 guy. We all know Methot is nowhere near good enough to be a 1st pairing guy so he's just there temporarily. Many here think/hope that Cowen will be good enough to be that guy some day. While I do believe he's a very good player and will only improve, I strongly feal as though he's best served to be on the 2nd pairing and truly dominate teams 2nd lines.
Bogosian is just as strong and good defensively but moves much better. He can keep up with the Ovechkin's and Stamkos' of the league no problem. If Cowen does end up improving to the point where he simply has to be onthe 1st pairing, then great. Then Bogosian would be excellent on the 2nd and at the same time not cost too much
60 is Mark Stone and the other is whatever he chose...simple.
Will pass along some details when/if I can.
He did skate yesterday with his team and could take passes and what not but cant shoot just yet. Knowing him and his freakish weight room abilities, he will probably be bad, fairly soon and be stronger than ever.
So as long as Murray is willing to stay with our current prospects for the first 2-3 weeks of the season my hypothesis would still be possible. And Murray did say he wanted to give his guys a try to see how it went before making a move. So who knows..
He was one of a select few NHLers who were never actually locked out. He earned all his salary during the lockout, was allowed to use all their team services. BAsically he had the locker room to himself since September
Being told the info above is still accurate. Panthers for the opener, Pens on the 27th, Leafs three times, Habs twice.
Once the NHLPA ratifies (Saturday noonish I think)
I think my untouchable list is pretty similar to your's Lehner and Noesen should never be traded imo. After that I'd hope they keep Silfverberg, Stone, and obviously Ceci. Anyone else I could live with being moved in the right deal, and by that I assume any Zibanejad move is to get a key top 4 D or top 3 sniper.
It's interesting you say that when he was one of the key pieces going to Columbus in the Rick Nash trade. I'm not saying the Sens should look to trade him, but he's obviously not untouchable.
I agree, we shouldn't look to trade him but he is the one prospect who has such high value on the market where it would exceed the value he brings or would bring to our team.
Everyone else would either really hurt us in the long run if we traded them (Lehner or Silfverberg for example) or just don't bring high enough value on the market where we could justify trading them since they could still bring really high value to our own team (Stone or Noesen).
I personally think our best assets to use in acquiring a big piece for us such as a 1st line winger or 2/3 Dman are Zibanejad, Bishop and Puempel
I'm not sure Zibby is at peak value with the injury problems he's had. Some GM out there might have him really high but I would think his value would be greater over the summer (assuming he has a good winter/spring in Bingo or even Ottawa). I don't think I'd have him on my list of guys to offer if I were Murray - more because I don't expect any GMs to give me a max return for him.
Add to that the fact that I'd only move Zibanejad for something huge and it's safe to say he wouldn't get moved if I were GM. Of course, if someone offered me a blue chip d-man I'd listen.
there are a ton of teams out there missing a legit 1st or 2nd line center and he could be a building block for their future.
playing devils advocate, a team like Edmonton has no one penciled in long term for the 2nd line ctr role... not that they have a plethora of defenseman they'd be willing to part with other than Smid potentially.
I'm not saying to trade him but as others have pointed out there could be some significant interest and with the addition of Turris, Zibby is somewhat expendable.
so was Lehner, but im pretty damn glad we didnt get Nash, i was against that trade from day 1.
I had the pleasure of attending the wjc here in calgary a couple years ago and saw how zib plays when the game is on the line and its exactly what we need to go further in the post season. i know the points havent come to him yet in bingo but i am willing to bet its due to his concussion issues.
Cowen-karlsson
methot-Bogosian
phillips-wiercioch
with ceci bumping methot down next year and possibly no more phillips, or keep phillips and demote/trade wiercioch
to get bogosian, and one of the jets ahl goalies, a trade of puempel and bishop and maybe 2nd or 3rd round pick. Puempel and bishop are close to equalling 2 firsts for bogosian who was a high first. Both aren't quite proven yet, hence the additional pick to make up for it. the ahl goalie has to come back, as we would need someone in the ahl, with lehner and anderson for the forseeable future in ottawa. The pick could also be swapped with someone like petersson, dacosta and so on, who have less of a chance of ever making ottawa
That's what I'm talking about! Would make us a legit contender as early as this year
Just gettin' warmed up!