(UPDATE 6:13 PM)- Figured it was time to start a second thread as we passed 300 comments. The Rick Nash talk has reached a fever pitch. I've maintained all along their interest was real and now it sounds as though they may in fact be the favourites. Will continue to update the site and Twitter as often as possible.
On the day before the NHL Draft from Pittsburgh, rumours and speculation continue to surround Bryan Murray and the Ottawa Senators.
While there is a chance it’s a straightforward draft weekend for the Sens, it really does sound like they are trying to address a couple of needs this weekend. Add in the excitement of the actual Draft and it should be a fun weekend for Sens fans.
The big fish is obviously Rick Nash. I have read the reports suggesting that the Sens are out of the running and I can tell you that is not the case. The Senators are still very much interested in making a move if the price is right. A key factor in all this is whether or not Nash actually wants to play here in Ottawa.
He and his agent are scheduled to meet with Jackets GM Scott Howson today and the belief is they’ll discuss the possibility of expanding his list. Some people I have talked to today seem to think Nash would be quite receptive to the idea of playing in Ottawa.
Spezza as your centre? 22 year old Norris Trophy winner hitting you with breakout passes? Coach of the year candidate preaching an offence first, attack style? Yup that sounds pretty good to me.
It has been fascinating to watch how this has all played out the last couple weeks. We know the organization likes Nash and wants to be involved in trade talks. Then, we see the names of Zibanejad, Bishop and Foligno leaked as a potential package. The timing of that leak is particularly interesting because you get the sense it’s being used as a way to get other teams to up the ante.
Then Murray speaks to the media and lets it be known that he does have an interest. A strategic move by the Sens GM and likely his way of saying, we have made our offer, and we’ll wait and see what Columbus decides to do.
Regardless, this situation is only going to get more interesting over the next couple of days. There is no guarantee the Jackets move Nash at the Draft but everyone around the league is buzzing about the possibility.
- Rick Nash is the guy grabbing all the headlines but Bobby Ryan is another extremely attractive trade option. Younger and at a lower cap hit, rumours indicate Ryan could be on the move over the next couple of days as well. Darren Dreger suggested on twitter that the same teams involved in Nash, are also interested in Bobby Ryan. Obviously Murray will explore that option as well.
- Plenty of talk on this front already but the Sens continue to have an interest in Hawks defenceman Niklas Hjalmarsson. The team is very high on him and would love to make a deal for the right price. Said this the other day but I would really be surprised if that price was Zack Smith.
- Mentioned it on Sunday and now Steve Lloyd has confirmed it on Twitter but the Sens have indeed made an offer to defenceman Matt Carkner. Carkner wants to stay in Ottawa and the club wants to keep him. I would be surprised if something didn’t get done.
- Contrary to some initial reports, the Nikita Filatov era isn’t finished just yet. While Filatov won’t come to North America next season, the Sens have decided to extend a qualifying offer in order to ensure they maintain his rights should he decide to return to the NHL. A good move if you ask me.
- In the face of impending CBA doom, the NHL has gone ahead and announced the regular season schedule. Ottawa opens their season on October 11th in Montreal and play their first home game two nights later against the Washington Capitals. The full schedule is available here.
Ott and Buff have had talks regarding Foligno for Roy trade ....
Ottawa is just working the trade route this draft
What "wire"?
Not sure I want to lose Foligno for a one-year rental on Roy.
I see Buffalo wants Foligno.. but they had better come up with something other than Roy...
I love what he's shown in his few NHL games and his Calder Cup run last season.
I know he had a poor season in Bingo but the entire team was brutal and I think Lehner was lacking interest in playing for a bottom feeder AHL team when he could have been in Ottawa playing for an up and coming, exciting playoff team.
Lehner to me seems like a big time player and a guy we should certainly hold on to.
If Murray can manage a deal involving Bishop while having to throw in a few other pieces then so be it, just no Lehner.
I would never part with Zibanejad, Lehner and a first round pick.
Well, Kuba is a UFA and already "gone" and nobody but his mom wants Butler around. I get that parting with Lehner and Zibanejad might be painful but Nash is not your average player and our top 6 would be sick with him in it. Especially if we don't have to trade part of it away to get him.
ridiculous... Sure I want nash and I'd be okay with parting with players like Foligno, Da Costa even Weircoich. but there is no way I want to part with any players from last years draft.
My offer
Foligno
Da Costa
Weirchoich
Bishop
3rd
Maybe we're looking at Roy to take over for Turris - after we trade Turris to get Ryan.
LOL (at least I think I'm kidding)
Sure it does they lock up the middle ..
Spezza 80-90 point guy
Turris 50-60 point guy
Roy 50-60 point guy
Smith 25 -35 point guy
Regins made of glass...
Your offer is not even close to good enough.
CBJ counter-proposes:
To CBJ
Spezza
To Ottawa
Derek Dorsett
Matt Calvert
Theo Ruth
Allen York
3rd
I'm not saying we pay anything to get Nash, but let's keep the offer ideas somewhat realistic.
not to be a dick and jump on you it being your first post and all... but... A.Kuba is a UFA B. in what world would Butler compensate for Lehner or Z-Bad not being included?
What might they have available on D? I haven't looked at their roster in some time and I doubt they would give up Meyers for Foligno (I wish)
how is my offer unrealstic? Da Costa has proven a bit more then Zibanejad. Weircoich is a defencemen that could really reach his level. Bishop just like a they requested and a 3rd because it;s already too much. honestly that is relastic yours just looks like a dog talking with peanut butter on the roof of his mouth
What ..... Roy is 60 70 80 point guy had 35 points in 35 games before his season was cut short by a torn quadriceps tendon that sidelined him...
Picking him up as 3rd line C could give us solid balance
They're not going to take a guy who can't crack and NHL lineup and you have two. Sure Da Costa and Wiercioch have good upsides but neither of them is there and there's serious doubt that either will reach them.
Would you take their counter offer? Because it's the same offer as yours - a bunch of "mights" for a superstar.
could be CBJ are considering our offer and want to see if they can get a better offer, if they don't he could be on his way to ottawa.
I wonder how we are doing on the D side of things, Nash would be phenomenal but we need to take care of defense as well.
going to lose some serious prospects to do a few big trades, can't send the same players to a few teams.
i know kuba and butler deal would never happen just saying i would rather it be them.
So you think two b level prospects (neither of which are shoe ins to make the NHL), a 3rd round pick and two legitimate NHL players are enough to get one of the best wingers in the game? I have to agree with Hax and think that Columbus would be offended. MZ (from what I have seen so far) has Mike Fisher written all over him, great 3rd liner, marginal second liner. Nash is a bonafide top line winger and the single best player in all of the trade proposals I have read today.
FYI when you have to resort to jeuvenile insults you have lost the argument!
Robyn Regher? We wouldn't want Ehrhoff.
I do understand why counter offered that and if nash was on this team, or it was spezza wanting out then I'd want fair value like my trade was. yours looks like a bunch of enforcers for spezza. mine was at least based on better skill
DaCosta is 4 years older than Zbad and has proved nothing other than he isn't ready for the NHL. I can guarantee you that in 4 years time Zbad will be a better player than daCosta is now. All DaCosta proved last year is that he is a defensive liability.
Wiercioch has regressed from the time he spent in the NHL two years ago - he played when if you had a pair of skates and were a dman in the organisation you got a game. D Smith, Benoit and Hale all got games. Last season he was about number 10 on our depth chart.
I like Hax's idea with proposed trades turn it round and see what you would say if you were offered it for one of our players. Spezza for a 3rd line winger, a dman who was publicly criticsed for his play in the AHL, a nothing centreman and a back-up goalie. Interested?
I believe he was making fun of you because your offer is terrible. Da Costa is a low level prospect who may become a 35pt 3rd line centre. Comparing him to Zibanejad is laughable. Wiercioch is a potential top four D but not a blue chip to get the deal done.
Bishop and Foligno are most likely to be part of any deal, but if you think Ottawa can obtain a top end talent like Nash without having to give up a 1st or a least one blue chip prospect, you might want to check your brain....
It'll probably take Stone and a 1st along with Bishop for Nash.
I did pick names from CBJ quickly but my point was that Da Costa is nobody. He might be someone some day and our org might like him but nobody outside of the Senators is coveting him. Same for Wiercioch. Neither really add value to the trade significantly. They certainly don't replace pieces like Zibanejad and Foligno (the rumored ask/offer).
I actually can't wait to get NHL 13 so I can try your trade there - might not even work in a video game!
SabreNoise @sabrenoise
Hearing the #Sabres and #Sens are in serious talks. #Roy and #Foligno.
Is this what you're referring to? Some fan blog dreaming of ditching M. Dive and gaining another Foligno?
He would look awesome on the wing with Alfie and Turris.
really sounds like they want to move our first in a trade of some sort.
a deal could be done and just not released yet.
If a deal is done he could be letting the fans know that losing the pick is no big deal.
Interesting. Yesterday he said a few times they might move down but not up. Felt they'd get one of the four guys they've targeted. So a bit of a change maybe?
link
Trade Lehner and we have NOT ONE goalie in our system under the age of 25 and only 2 (bishop/andy) capable of playing in the NHL. #Sens
Now add a 6th overall WJC hero and a 1st round pick to that. For a guy about to, if not already, plateau in his career, seems crazy!
Couldn't agree anymore.
I like Oshie but he doesn't fit Murray's design for a team. He likes the big boys.
Sorry for the spelling @&$#% iPhone.
very interesting to come out and say the stuff they are a day before the draft, he more or less said our pick sucks and the draft sucks.
Ducks want prospects probably very good ones.
Ryan has 3 yrs left on his contract.. then he is a UFA.
If he walks, and he could, Sens lose big time.
Yeah but:
Hockey Break @HockeyBreak
A source tells me the Flyers are close to acquiring the Ducks first round pick (6th overall). Flyers like Teravainen, Dumba & Reinhart
So does that mean the Ducks have a trade in place to get a first back? i.e. Move Ryan for a first and more?
Hallelujah that's what I've been preaching for 2 days. Technically speaking in 3 years we could lose alfie Ryan foligno zinanejad and other pieces needed to acquire Ryan. Nash gives us stability
I know he's trying to get the best possible result for his team, but there's a point where it becomes ridiculous. To be honest, I don't know how he could've turned down the Rangers' offer at the deadline. I don't even think Ottawa's proposed package is better than that.
Re the Roy rumours, if they're legit, maybe it could be a three-way deal with Buf and CBJ. Buf gets Foligno, CBJ gets Roy along with our other prospects, and we get Nash. Obviously it would mean a couple other moving parts, but that's the only way I could see Roy making sense.
Or it could be a three way with the Ducks.
Either way though, I'm getting a bad feeling that this "incredibly fluid situation," is going to turn out to be another bust like last year.
Because he wants to play with his bro and has said he won't sign an extension and is set to be a UFA next year. Writing. On. Wall
@Aportzline: RT @PollakOnSharks : I'm hearing there are no Nash talks between #Sjsharks and CBJ, who still want Couture. No counter-proposa l period.
That came from SC via twitter FYI
Other teams clearing the dance floor
I just hope Nash feels like dancing wih the senators!
Honestly, that's the only remaining question for me as well. Nobody seems to have that answer yet.
I think after your 6th post we all understand your opinion on a Nash deal. Do you think if you keep saying its a bad deal that Murray is checking our comments before he makes his decision? You're making me laugh. Try this; nononononononon ononononononono nononononononon ononononononono nononononononon ononononononono nonononononnono nononononononon ononononononono nononononononon ono!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! You might feel better.
But he's still going to trade for Nash.
Thank you Hax for saying what we were thinking.
WJC Hero !!? Lol I love the kid but he didn't do much all year in a bigger role in Sweden. He is Mike Fisher version 2.0 except he might hit the net more often than Fish. GREAT 3rd liner but no NASH.
Worked for the fisher trade :)
I understand the benefits of having #61 on the team but seems like a very un-murray (it's not a real word) to trade Zbad, Bishop and a 1st when we are in a second year of a rebuild.
Agreed. Howsen is going to paint himself into a corner if he doesn't deal Nash tomorrow. Wait until. Nash comes out and demands a trade and then see what the circling vultures offer.
I see your point, but Nash is (according to his supporters at least) only 28 and has plenty of years left to produce - so not "anti-rebuild" in that sense.
If you're more inclined to think that he's about to start a decline then yeah, it's VERY anti-murray-lik e.
#NHL *Rumor*-- #Sens and #Canes inquiring with #SJSharks for defenceman Douglas Murray, OTT also talking to #Hawks for N.Hjalmarsson.
I am interested to know how you drew your conclusion that Mika Zibanejad, a 19 year old center/winger, is similar to 32-year old Mike Fisher? Please tell me how professional scouts see him as a potential 1st liner yet you, presumably from watching many of his games, think he is another version of fisher.
We have excess forwards (prospect & NHLers), we can pick up one or two goalie prospects via this draft or pro try outs. The only position we need to start adding prospects for is d.
I am actually quite amazed at how picking up Nash speeds up the rebuild without creating a big hole.
Having just started to watch barter kings, it is quite possible Murray took the approach of building up assets for a big trade.
Bottom line is that none of us know the prospects (or players) like Murray et al.
I'm reminded of Monty Burns buying the plant back from the Germans.
Howson is very close to finding out he's "desperate to sell" if Nash or his agent get fed up with his lead feet.
At which point Murray can say "Well, seems like every other team dropped out so how about I send you Butler, Kuba and the rights to Filatov?"
Saw on twitter earlier that the Flyers were off Nash's list (much like Sylvester crossing birds off his?). Could be BS so ingest a small particle of sodium chloride concurrently.
I want him to get 70+ points consistently but at this stage in his career how good can we realistically expect him to be for the next 6 years?
I would have to think that on Spezza's wing he could hit 70 points pretty much all 6 of those years. Maybe not a lot more though - so would he end up being worth all the pieces??
Nash will be money for 40g 40a
NYR - wont change there offer and add Kreider
SJ - Wont switch Pavelski for Couture
Philly - I dont know whats going on there its a mess
Any other teams.. (Tor Boston Edm etc) either dont have the assets or can afford too give away assets
Im starting to wonder if Nash has till tomorrow too Accept or Veto before the draft too become a Senator or not .
Must say, I'm a little bit confused by the nearly 50/50 split on pursuing Nash.
chirp do you know who columbus wants from ottawa?
Everyone wants a Ferrari but cant stomach paying the price !!
That deal goes down ill have 61 on the back of my jersey for next 7 years
C'mon Murray get it done.
Sens make this deal and they are still stocked with prospects.
Just please don't trade Noesen - I think he'll be our best prospect. Hope Howsen isn't reading this.
Quoting Hax:
Good points but i highly doubt Nash can put up 70 pts consistently with Spezza when very few forwards in the league can consistently keep or exceed their point totals year-over-year. If i'm not mistaken Zetterberg, Toews, Crosby, OV, Eriksson and a couple of other have been able to do it.
We were all ready andvwilling to give the Sens 3 years on a rebuild, but after seeing what happened this season its time to go make a run for a Cup. Murray is nearing the end of his career. Nothing better than going out on top.
3rd line very good as well as 4th line.
SENS can field 4 good lines even with 4-5 players traded.
*Right wing.
But that makes it even better. He can finally complete our top 3 with Spezza and Michalek since Heatley left a hole.
unless michaleks involved in the trade.
I'm sure it's Logan Couture they want, hence, no deal.
Ya already established. I'm saying if sharks go no deal on couture but we will do pavelski it's still a huge deal for columbus
Nash is a great RW but to say he's among the NHL's elite is a stretch especially when his point totals have been regressing over the past 4 years.
Fisher was also labelled a top 6 player when he was drafted.
You tell me what Zibanejad does different that Fisher did when he was 19 yrs old ? Or are you still drinking out of a sippy cup ?
NICK KYPREOS TWITTING THAT Ottawa AND SAN JOSE ARE THE FRONT RUNNERS FOR THE TRADE AND THAT OTTAWA OFFERED ZIBBY LEHNER AND A 1ST
Yeah Pavelski and Clowe are awesome players but if Columbus wants to start from scratch and totally rebuild I'm sure they'd prefer the centerpiece of the trade to be a young star like Couture or a package of promising prospects.
Pavelski is 27 and Clowe is 29, not old by any means, but they don't exactly help Columbus' desire to overhaul the team.
Personally I think San Jose would be stupid to trade Pavelski, Clowe and Demers for Nash. Pavelski is a 30 goal scorer in his own right and Clowe is good for around 20 goals and 50+ points a season, not to mention he's a beast.
from what i've read, he wont be. murray wants to solidify the top 6 and trading michalek is counter productive in those efforts. he's moving out youth for experience.
Just like he said a week or so ago. Looking to trade quantity for quality.
So you are basing your future projections over what a player is "labelled" at the time he was drafted? Brian Lee would have been the next big thing...
The fact you are saying Z-Bad is going to be the next Fisher because he plays somewhat similar is inaccurate at best.
I too thought that may be the case. Not so, apparently.
OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS? WHAT AN INSIDE SCOOP. THAT IS TOTALLY NEW TO US
He usually is. Gotten 100% better at trade talk/prediction s in the past 2 or 3 years though. He's still horrible on air, but I can stand him on twitter.
THIS JUST IN: THERE'S NO REASON TO BE AN ASSHOLE.
Save the negativity.
I wouldn't call that "asshole" - more like poking fun at someone clearly missing a bit of news throughout the day. And apparently addicted to caps lock.
Inacurate just as the same as pencilling him as a top 6 forward. What did you expect management to say to it's fan base after drafting him ? they said we "think" he can be a top 6 ... when a guy is a sure top 6 they say "he IS a top 6 talent. If they are offering him in a package then they obviously don't think he is top 6 material. It says alot that Murray is offering him.
Loving the Sens buzz today. So if we acquire Nash and he plays with Spezza and Michalek; can we call them the SNM line? :)
I would rather not trade this years 1st rounder, as I feel drafting a dman is quite important. But if they must, I would like to see them get Columbus's 2nd rounder in return somehow.
Blackberry will not be leaving my hand. Based on all the buzz today, I am expecting the Sens to pull off something special tomorrow. And if not, we still have the excitement of the NHL Entry Draft as a great fall back.
Yeah me too maybe if we add a third to that first and get their 2nd, 2nd rounder?
Of all the days this week, including both days on the weekend, I won't be working tomorrow. Not even on purpose.
Should be a great day!
Rather it be bishop and our 1st than Lehner any day of the week!
Although the longer hardball is being played the more I wish Murray had done that to Heatley...I seriously can't imagine our return being any worse than it was. Ahh well, let bygones be bygones.
Knowing my luck it will go down 10 minutes after I go to sleep...may leave the ringer on on my phone tonight.
When you put it this way
Kevin Lee @SensForLife11
If Nash was a UFA and I told you Murray planned to offer him $7.8 mil/year until he's 34 what would your opinion be? Probably hate it eh...
It really doesn't sound as appealing.
I am not penciling him in as a top 6 I am just trying to figure out how you are so sure he IS going to be a mike fisher. Yes there has been comparisons made to fisher but I also heard comparisons from scouts comparing him to Zberg, it doesn't make them true they are just rough estimates.
Can I answer after Parise gets his payday? I bet he signs something very close to that making Nash's contract look okay. I'd rather Ryan but then it would depend on the package to get him.
That seems weird to me. When Heatley left, I think he was sensing a major decline in the team. Everybody saw it coming. We had just gotten Kovalev for crying out loud...
This is a different team now. Packed with prospects, high end players, a real #1 centreman, goalies and a stellar coaching staff. Plus, its a canadian market.
Why he would balk at that would seem bizarre to me.
Deal will get done. He'll come around.
Oh by the way... a little Tidbit from the Hockey News.
According to them.. SJ has dropped out. There are 7 teams in on Nash. Ottawa is not on his list. Now I don't know how in the hell they know that detail.. unless it's their best guess.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/47738-Bobby-Ryan-interest-interfering-with-Rick-Nash-trade.html#.T-OybsaDYkU.twitter
I could tell you,but I'd have to kill you.
Sorry but there's no f'ng way that Heatley "sensed a decline". He's a selfish brat, nothing more.
And unless he's psychic he didn't know we were getting Kovalev.
I REALLY hope this just falls apart. Giving up two blue chippers in Lehner and Zibanejad for a guy who'll start his decline in 2-3 seasons is suicide. You're crazy if you think otherwise.
If the Sens are involved in a Nash deal in any way, my dream scenario is that we flip Bishop (and maybe our first) to a team that is willing to overpay and get a top D man in return. Say a three way deal with the Rangers that sees McDonough come to Ottawa and Bishop and our first go to CBJ. Wishful thinking, I know.
Silverburg/Stone Turris Alfie
Much better top 6 than last year.
I would also not rule out another acquisition that puts Silverburg Stone on the third line
whoever has to go to get it done I am ok with
lots of options to swap around for our top lines and I hope we do not have injuries but if we do it is not as devastating.
We are going to have our top positions filled this year and not trying to fill them like last year.
I hope Lehner is not part of the deal but if he is, it is what it is, it makes us way better right now and in the future up front.
I agree chirp sounds like we could see some big moves tomorrow.
I think Nash is in the bag, just don't know the cost yet.
You could very well be right. It certainly won't be for a lack of trying on Bryan Murray's part.
You could be right.
This is why foligno is valuable. Many here don't like him but that speaks volumes to the type of player he has developed into
Many of us have another opinion..
Anyway.. if Ottawa uses the 15th tomorrow.. there may be no Nash.
Not blaming Murray at all, just a little sick of the mainstream media saying the same thing every year and being wrong. Dreger is the worst:
"rumours have it there may be a trade in the next hour. However, reports also indicate that it may not happen. Stay tuned."
"This has the potential to be one of the most fluid drafts in years. Teams may move up, move down, or keep their pick."
Seriously?
See everyone tomorrow, hopefully for an eventful day!
Except we would still have bishop/lehner primped noesen stone silf of we did part with a goalie and zib. So we are no where near legs territory yet
Sorry gave this thumbs down by accident, I would give 100 thumbs up if I could
If the Sens can land Hjalmarsson or Murray as well, this team could be scary good as soon as this coming season. Imagine this lineup:
Michalek-Spezza-(Nash/Ryan/Kane)
Silfverberg-Turris-Alfie
Stone-Smith-Greening
Neil-(Winchester/O'Brien)-Condra
Karlsson-Cowen
Phillips-(Hjalmarsson/Murray)
Gonchar-(Carkner/Borowiecki)
Swap out Smith for Regin if Zach gets moved for Hjalmarsson, although I'm not sure I'd wanna see that
Yandle-Karlsson
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
He's not even in Pittsburg yet and he's hearing All about it.. It's getting around and lots of people know!
I guess well have to wait and see what happens if this trade works out..
In reality everything is in Nash's hands.
Its just my opinion tho..
As for Niklas Hjalmarsson, I would not like to see Smith go.. if we can move O'brien or something for him.. then I would be happy
Zibanejad for an estimated 13 productive years at what will almost certainly be 25g/60pts (potentially 70-80pts) if he reaches his ceiling.
or
Nash for an estimated 4 productive years at what will most likely be 40g/80pts (potentially a few 90pt seasons) if he gels with Spezza - which is by the way, no guarantee.
Then that won't even get it done so the Sens probably have to add the 15th overall and one of Lehner/Bishop/F oligno. Two pieces that will have good long-term value.
A trade like this would signify to me that the Sens are looking to win now. The window may or may not be closed for Alfie's career this year or next and Spezza's prime won't last forever.
I think I'd be happy either way. Nash would make Ottawa a threat to contend and give us enough clout to lure in good UFA's to help the cause. The interesting thing to consider is that by the time Zibanejad is a special player in 2-3 years - if he becomes one - Alfie will be retired and Spezza's prime will have only a little ways left to go. Maybe other forward prospects develop maybe they don't but Zibanejad is the real hope for that. If he's the only star by the time he gets there then we're really just in the same position we are now. Enough talent to compete but not enough to contend. Moving him for Nash gives us the chance to have enough talent all at once - which is what it takes to win. Even if long-term CBJ will get more value out of the deal. The truth is the value doesn't matter much if you can't put it all together and win something. Value over 13 years won't count for much if they don't win anything as a result and are always middle of the pack. It's certainly a lot to think about for Ottawa.
We had top 5 offense last year with Greening, Cobdra and Klinkhammer in our top 6.
We were bottom in goals allowed last season..
In the system we actually have forwards with top 6 potebtial to fill thw holes compared to D where none of oyr dman prospects have top 4 potential and are ready to make an impact next season.
harsh.
You don't say!
Fuck at this point I think we know you would prefer konopka to Nash
Anyone here take sens town Stephen smith seriously?
He tweets. "Ottawa sends gonchar and 3rd to Philly for JVR. Who says no?"
Umm anybody who isn't a sens fan? Lol
Heatley had a problem with Clouston. That was bascially it. He knew they weren't going to fire him, and so he had to get out.
Not defending Heatley btw.
I'm sure your doing much better in the O and ranked to go way higher then he is.
Elund is back!
Wow. This is an incredible read.
Toews is an elite forward and who is well regarded in the community. Hammer will insulate King Karl-more sky than Kuba.
Is this guy f@$&ing for real ???? What's up with these condra for
Crosby trades c'mon ppl get serious I want what your smoking shiz!
Seriously? The only thing lamer than pretending to be Eklund is actually being Eklund. GTFO will ya?
Might as well add Stone and get Patrick Kane...
No he's got off ice problems. Get Seabrook instead.
Replace "Howson" with "Nash" and "send him" with "come" and you might be closer to the mark.
We're not on Nash's list - if we were the deal probably would have happened by now.
The teams that seem elite never get to the finals
It's hit and miss for me so far this morning, connect about 50% of attempts. So I am just leaving the page open now hoping for BIG news
Wow you got to see his list?
If this is dragging on because Nash's wife would prefer to spend his money in New York or San Jose vs Ottawa, that's not good. Might not be worth it if he wants out in a year or two because his wife doesn't like living in Canada.
What a shame that would be.
Detroit. Pittsburgh. Chicago. Boston. L.A.
Pretty elite teams to me. There's no way L.A should have been the 8th seed, but that just shows how tight the West is compared to the East.
Nash does not want to come to a team in rebuild mode-- he wants to go to a contender. The problem is his huge contract, and making room for him. Any of the elite teams he wants to go to don't necessarily need him. We need him though, more than some other teams.