Thursday, 21 June 2012 11:13

Rumours Swirl, Schedule Released

On the day before the NHL Draft from Pittsburgh, rumours and speculation continue to surround Bryan Murray and the Ottawa Senators.

While there is a chance it’s a straightforward draft weekend for the Sens, it really does sound like they are trying to address a couple of needs this weekend.  Add in the excitement of the actual Draft and it should be a fun weekend for Sens fans.

The big fish is obviously Rick Nash.  I have read the reports suggesting that the Sens are out of the running and I can tell you that is not the case.  The Senators are still very much interested in making a move if the price is right.  A key factor in all this is whether or not Nash actually wants to play here in Ottawa.

He and his agent are scheduled to meet with Jackets GM Scott Howson today and the belief is they’ll discuss the possibility of expanding his list.  Some people I have talked to today seem to think Nash would be quite receptive to the idea of playing in Ottawa.

Spezza as your centre? 22 year old Norris Trophy winner hitting you with breakout passes? Coach of the year candidate preaching an offence first, attack style? Yup that sounds pretty good to me.

It has been fascinating to watch how this has all played out the last couple weeks.  We know the organization likes Nash and wants to be involved in trade talks.  Then, we see the names of Zibanejad, Bishop and Foligno leaked as a potential package.  The timing of that leak is particularly interesting because you get the sense it’s being used as a way to get other teams to up the ante.

Then Murray speaks to the media and lets it be known that he does have an interest. A strategic move by the Sens GM and likely his way of saying, we have made our offer, and we’ll wait and see what Columbus decides to do.

Regardless, this situation is only going to get more interesting over the next couple of days.  There is no guarantee the Jackets move Nash at the Draft but everyone around the league is buzzing about the possibility.

  • Rick Nash is the guy grabbing all the headlines but Bobby Ryan is another extremely attractive trade option.  Younger and at a lower cap hit, rumours indicate Ryan could be on the move over the next couple of days as well. Darren Dreger suggested on twitter that the same teams involved in Nash, are also interested in Bobby Ryan.  Obviously Murray will explore that option as well.
  • Plenty of talk on this front already but the Sens continue to have an interest in Hawks defenceman Niklas Hjalmarsson.  The team is very high on him and would love to make a deal for the right price.  Said this the other day but I would really be surprised if that price was Zack Smith.
  • Mentioned it on Sunday and now Steve Lloyd has confirmed it on Twitter but the Sens have indeed made an offer to defenceman Matt Carkner.  Carkner wants to stay in Ottawa and the club wants to keep him.  I would be surprised if something didn’t get done.
  • Contrary to some initial reports, the Nikita Filatov era isn’t finished just yet.  While Filatov won’t come to North America next season, the Sens have decided to extend a qualifying offer in order to ensure they maintain his rights should he decide to return to the NHL. A good move if you ask me.
  • In the face of impending CBA doom, the NHL has gone ahead and announced the regular season schedule.  Ottawa opens their season on October 11th in Montreal and play their first home game two nights later against the Washington Capitals.  The full schedule is available here.

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+1 #301 Sandy 2012-06-21 16:24
From Twitter:

"#Cbj‬ GM Scott Howson says he's no closer to a Rick Nash trade than he was at the trade deadline".

So does that mean Sens are out - Nash refused? Or was their offer not good enough?
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+5 #302 Tcharger 2012-06-21 16:26
Means nothing
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+1 #303 Sensnation 2012-06-21 16:27
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Oh oh...now my ADD is really going to kick in! Howson doing a Presser at 5 and sens doing one at 5:20?


But it's TIM Murray.. Wouldn't an announcement like that come from Bryan?

I don't think the Sens would tell Brennan WHO they offered. Remember the backlash for the Oilers mentioned in the Heatley trade. I don't think Murray would be very happy with Brennan doing that.. But then again Brennan is classless.

Oh and by the way.. Patrick Kane is a great hockey player.. but I would not touch him with a 10 ft pool. Heading for re-hab.. that kid has issues.

Now I don't blame a young, single, good-looking hockey player to enjoy himself in the off-season.. most of them do... but they don't get themselves constantly in trouble...


Sandy, I don't think it's a big issue as this offer and those player names were already out there. Everyone knows who the likely players going back to Columbus are at this point aside from whether it's Lehner or Bishop (likely) in the end.


Do you think the 1 or 2 extra prospects mentioned might be something to do with Bishop going and not Lehner?


I think the 1-2 extra prospects would just be Columbus' asking price that won't be met. Hopefully at least, losing 5+ significant players/prospec ts for 1 really starts being in the "too expensive" category.
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-5 #304 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2012-06-21 16:27
Glad to see there are some anti-Nash people here.
It would be a damn shame to see Mika traded. Guy is going to be a terrific player.
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+1 #305 SwedishSens 2012-06-21 16:28
Quoting Sandy:
From Twitter:

"#Cbj‬ GM Scott Howson says he's no closer to a Rick Nash trade than he was at the trade deadline".

So does that mean Sens are out - Nash refused? Or was their offer not good enough?



He isnt showing his cards ..not surprising
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+1 #306 Sensnation 2012-06-21 16:30
Sounds like Howson is really pricing himself out of a trade. Almost makes you wonder if he ever planned on trading Nash in the first place, or if he's just trying to take the attention away from his shitty picks and rebuild effort.
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+3 #307 Andrews Theory 2012-06-21 16:34
Quoting Robert19:
Nash is overrated - he only got 4 more points than prospal last year with similar corsi and competition difficulty.


UHHH YA.

not even sure how to respond to such a silly statement.
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+2 #308 SwedishSens 2012-06-21 16:35
Tim Murray .."where theres smoke theres fire " !!!



Spezza to Nash !!! Scores !!!!
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+1 #309 RUSHRLZ 2012-06-21 16:41
Quoting Sandy:
From Twitter:

"#Cbj‬ GM Scott Howson says he's no closer to a Rick Nash trade than he was at the trade deadline".

So does that mean Sens are out - Nash refused? Or was their offer not good enough?


I would say this means at least 1/4 chance that they tabled our offer to Nash and he said "no" to us. Maybe we'll find out how Edmonton feels. Haha.
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+2 #310 Tcharger 2012-06-21 16:43
He also all but confirmed Foligno is involved

Uhhh yeah I will talk to them either here or ugh when we get home
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+2 #311 SwedishSens 2012-06-21 16:45
Sounded like Tim Murray wanted to say something and tired his best too let people know we are in on Nash !!!
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+2 #312 Spinorama 2012-06-21 16:46
I'm loving this and if we don't land Nash turn around and offer that proposal to Anaheim for Bobby Rye haha Oh man and worse case scenario, nothing happens we pick 15th and get a young D and we get to watch our Sens play their butts off another season. I'm real happy Murray is at least trying to get this done. If it happens it happens, if not then it wasn't meant to be !!

C'mon B-Murray, the fans are behind you !
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+1 #313 kingalfredsson 2012-06-21 16:55
#SNdraft news. Seems #Sens and #Sharks most interested #NHL teams for #Bluejackets Rick Nash as of Thurs nite.
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+1 #314 Hax 2012-06-21 16:55
Breaking News of of Anaheim:


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Anaheim Ducks ‏@AnaheimDucks

BREAKING- #NHLDucks announce new AHL affiliation, sign multi-year agreement with the @NorfolkAdmiral s: http://bit.ly/Ko9ef2
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+1 #315 kingalfredsson 2012-06-21 17:00
#SNdraft. Names from #Sens being speculated in a potential Nash deal include prospects Lehner, Zibanejad as well as a 1st round pick

i rather not let lehner go
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+4 #316 AlfieforMayor11 2012-06-21 17:03
Quoting kingalfredsson:
#SNdraft. Names from #Sens being speculated in a potential Nash deal include prospects Lehner, Zibanejad as well as a 1st round pick

i rather not let lehner go


I wouldn't include both Lehner and Zibby. If they want Zibby then they take Bishop. If they take Lehner they have to take a lesser forward prospect than Zibby.
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+1 #317 SwedishSens 2012-06-21 17:04
Kypreos has Sharks and Sens interest in Nash

Sens Zibanejad Lehner 1st

Sharks Clowe Pavelski Demers
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+5 #318 NorCalSens 2012-06-21 17:04
Please no Lehner... I just have a great feeling about him. He just looks like he'll turn out to be too good.
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+2 #319 Ryan 2012-06-21 17:09
Yep no to the trade if it involves lehner I'll be pissed if they do
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0 #320 Hax 2012-06-21 17:13
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting kingalfredsson:
#SNdraft. Names from #Sens being speculated in a potential Nash deal include prospects Lehner, Zibanejad as well as a 1st round pick

i rather not let lehner go


I wouldn't include both Lehner and Zibby. If they want Zibby then they take Bishop. If they take Lehner they have to take a lesser forward prospect than Zibby.


Good thinking. Though the only thing that might impact it (that none of us could possibly know) is if Lehner has a legit attitude problem. i.e. one that goes beyond just having an ego (which most stars do).

If Murray's people tell him that Lehner's not worth the aggravation or that his attitude is getting in the way of him reaching his potential, then obviously we can part with him.

Disclaimer: Outside of the odd rumor I have no reason to believe he has an attitude problem or even feels under appreciated by the org. So it's likely a big non-issue. Just saying that if there's any truth to it then that might impact the decision on which goalie we're willing to move.
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+2 #321 stephen mchugh 2012-06-21 17:15
hi guys my first post on this site i read everything on here.i think the sharks will get nash seems like a better offer.i would love for the sens to get nash,but not for lehner zibanejad.much rather put butler and kuba in there.
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+2 #322 SensChirp 2012-06-21 17:16
New thread with an update at the top started to make refreshing comment section a little easier. See ya'll over there!
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0 #323 AlfieforMayor11 2012-06-21 17:16
Quoting Fail4Nail:
Kypreos has Sharks and Sens interest in Nash

Sens Zibanejad Lehner 1st

Sharks Clowe Pavelski Demers


Take anything Kypreos says with a grain of salt. The guy is the biggest dumbass in the business. That San Jose offer is a big one!
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+1 #324 SensChirp 2012-06-21 17:16
Quoting stephen mchugh:
hi guys my first post on this site i read everything on here.i think the sharks will get nash seems like a better offer.i would love for the sens to get nash,but not for lehner zibanejad.much rather put butler and kuba in there.

Sorry bout that Stephen! Bring that post over to the new thread and we'll discuss over there.
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0 #325 FBP 2012-06-21 17:17
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Oh oh...now my ADD is really going to kick in! Howson doing a Presser at 5 and sens doing one at 5:20?


But it's TIM Murray.. Wouldn't an announcement like that come from Bryan?

I don't think the Sens would tell Brennan WHO they offered. Remember the backlash for the Oilers mentioned in the Heatley trade. I don't think Murray would be very happy with Brennan doing that.. But then again Brennan is classless.

Oh and by the way.. Patrick Kane is a great hockey player.. but I would not touch him with a 10 ft pool. Heading for re-hab.. that kid has issues.

Now I don't blame a young, single, good-looking hockey player to enjoy himself in the off-season.. most of them do... but they don't get themselves constantly in trouble...


Sandy, I don't think it's a big issue as this offer and those player names were already out there. Everyone knows who the likely players going back to Columbus are at this point aside from whether it's Lehner or Bishop (likely) in the end.


Do you think the 1 or 2 extra prospects mentioned might be something to do with Bishop going and not Lehner?


I think the 1-2 extra prospects would just be Columbus' asking price that won't be met. Hopefully at least, losing 5+ significant players/prospects for 1 really starts being in the "too expensive" category.


I have to think the extra pieces going would mean there are some extra pieces coming back.
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-2 #326 SwedishSens 2012-06-21 17:17
According to the wire

Ott and Buff have had talks regarding Foligno for Roy trade ....
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+2 #327 Round Leaf 2012-06-21 17:18
wow. If the Sharks really offered Clowe, Pavelski and Demers for Nash then they can have him.

I would never part with Zibanejad, Lehner and a first rounder.
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0 #328 FinallyMakingSens 2012-06-21 17:43
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting IDontKnowAnythingAboutHockey:
Quoting Round Leaf:
I love how nobody questions Tookie's sweet nothings...

Zibanejad, drafted 6th overall by the same people who scouted out Norris winner Karlsson, Jared Cowen, Robin Lehner, Jakob Silfverberg, Mark Stone in rd. 6, Stefan Noesen etc..., is actually only worth around a second rounder as per the person whose moniker is "IDon'tKnowAnythingAboutHockey"

makes you think...


Yeah the same scouts that drafted Wiercioch (2nd), Bashkirov (2nd), Puempel (1st) and Jim O'Brien (1st)...

Kinda does make you wonder....about your integrity.


verdict still out on puemple and he is a pure scorer, ya O'brien was a bust but the rest weren't 1st round picks...talk about integrity


Puempel was hurt a good chunk of the season. I would not consider this year to be a good determination of his skill level. Anyone remember Cowen the year he was drafted? He was pretty much benched (he rode the pine) throughout the entire WJC.
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