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Thursday, 01 March 2012 07:38

SensChirp Event at Locals (Update from Practice)

I have mentioned it a couple times at the bottom of blogs but I think it's time to give this event it's own post.

On Friday night, SensChirp and Local Heroes on Clyde have teamed up to bring you a great chance to see your Ottawa Senators take on an original six team in the Chicago Blackhawks. What better way to spend a Friday night than with some great food, conversation with other fans and an opportunity to watch our Sens live at Scotiabank Place.

For just $60, ($5 off the reg price) you get a 300 level ticket to the game. You get dinner courtesy of Locals ($15 or under) and you get convenient transportation to and from SBP.

And a special contest for SensChirp readers as one lucky winner will score a pair of free tickets, with the food and transportation included to the Habs game on Friday March 16th!

Just by purchasing the Chicago package, you automatically get 10 ballots in the draw. If you don't plan on buying the package, you can still be entered in a draw to win the pair just by coming in to watch the game. One ballot will be given for each purchase. We'll also be handing out prizes between periods to anyone that decides to stick around to watch the game at Locals, where they have Molson Canadian for just $3.75 plus HST during the game. Not a bad deal if you ask me!

As I've said before, space is limited so be sure to call 613 224 3873 and mention the SensChirp Event to reserve your seat.

Get on the dang bus! GO SENS GO!

  • Posted this article on Twitter last night but this is something all Sens fans have to read.  In an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, Cyril Leeder talked about the impact that a change to Ontario tax law allowing businesses to write off tickets to sporting events and the impact it could have on the Senators.  Leeder suggests that if this change goes through, it could be enough to put the Sens out of business.  Check out the article here.

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(UPDATE 12:02 PM)- A quick update from practice this morning.  Here is how the Sens lined up, with Kaspars Daugavins as the 13th forward after being a healthy scratch in Boston.

Michalek-Spezza-Butler
Greening-Turris-Alfredsson
Foligno-O'Brien-Neil
Konopka-Smith-Condra

Kuba- Karlsson
Phillips-Gilroy
Cowen-Gonchar

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+5 #1 my2sens 2012-03-01 08:28
I really hope they don't scrap the tax law. First and foremost, cut each of the Member's of Parliament's salary by 30% and you will save he same money you would by killing the Sens organization. Absolute and utter bullshit. The province of Ontario talks about bringing a team to Hamilton and yet don't make any effort to help Ottawa?

Red Mile Riot here we come should they can the law!
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+4 #2 Spinorama 2012-03-01 08:30
SensChirp,
Will that Larionov babe be there ? She's MINT !!! Lol
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+2 #3 my2sens 2012-03-01 08:30
Happy news - Leafs lost! :-)
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0 #4 St Nick 2012-03-01 08:38
The Sens are also having a Heritage Train, Hotel & hockey game against the Habs Mar 10 I believe. It's about $450 a person, I don't know too many who can afford that but that should be a good time as well. Cyril Leeder says they expect about 350 people to ride the train down to Montreal.
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+2 #5 darthsens911 2012-03-01 08:59
I would have to wonder which of the two is worth more money? I would think having the Sens in ontario would be a higher tax bringer than the money returned to corporations for a tax break on tickets. I mean every player must pay income tax on very high wages. There is tax on the tickets, concessions, parking, etc... Land tax for the arena and parking lot. Don't forget about the merchandise which they get their hands on 7% of every sale. I find it real hard to beleive that they have fully looked at the implications of what they are planning to do.
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+2 #6 spezzerman 2012-03-01 09:02
is Leeder politicking or is this a legit concern?
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0 #7 SensCherub 2012-03-01 09:17
Dean must be loving the free publicity.

Leeder isn't politicing, he's reacting. This is a complete non-issue in my opinion. It would impact all Canadian teams, not just Ottawa. It was a suggestion proposed by the tards of Ontario to the feds. Winnipeg, Calgary and Van would all really feel the impact...Toront o and Mtl are more self-sufficient . Oh, and Quebec City/Hamilton could kiss their chances of a franchise goodbye.
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-2 #8 Tookie 2012-03-01 09:20
Wow this tax law thing is real serious, are we even gonna see the product were putting together in 2-3 years...This would be a huge shame.
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0 #9 spezzerman 2012-03-01 09:21
Quoting SensCherub:
Dean must be loving the free publicity.

Leeder isn't politicing, he's reacting. This is a complete non-issue in my opinion. It would impact all Canadian teams, not just Ottawa. It was a suggestion proposed by the tards of Ontario to the feds. Winnipeg, Calgary and Van would all really feel the impact...Toronto and Mtl are more self-sufficient. Oh, and Quebec City/Hamilton could kiss their chances of a franchise goodbye.


this is a provincial issue? would it affect the rest of canada's teams because you feel other provinces would follow suit? how do you see it affecting non-Ontario teams?
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-1 #10 SensCherub 2012-03-01 09:24
Quoting spezzerman:
Quoting SensCherub:
Dean must be loving the free publicity.

Leeder isn't politicing, he's reacting. This is a complete non-issue in my opinion. It would impact all Canadian teams, not just Ottawa. It was a suggestion proposed by the tards of Ontario to the feds. Winnipeg, Calgary and Van would all really feel the impact...Toronto and Mtl are more self-sufficient. Oh, and Quebec City/Hamilton could kiss their chances of a franchise goodbye.


this is a provincial issue? would it affect the rest of canada's teams because you feel other provinces would follow suit? how do you see it affecting non-Ontario teams?


It's not a provincial issue, it's a federal issue. It was simply proposed by provincial tards to the feds. That's my understanding of it anyways.
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+2 #11 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 09:24
Quoting Spinorama:
SensChirp,
Will that Larionov babe be there ? She's MINT !!! Lol


MINT!

Scientists could use that bum to calibrate the Hubble Telescope!
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0 #12 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 09:24
Tuned into the Toronto game last night, they were leading 3-1 and appeared to have a decent handle on it. I changed the channel figuring it was a win in the books. Turned back a few minutes later and it was 3-2. When I saw that, I just new Toronto was going to have a hard time with that lead. I changed it again and when I went back it was 3-3. As a Sens fan I was pumped. I was still tuned in when Chicago took a 4-3 lead and at that pointed I turned it off. I didn't need to see anymore to know that Toronto had no hope of winning that game. Sure enough, Chicago took home the victory and we are now only 1 game in hand of Toronto and 11 points ahead. It's a good time for be a Sens fan!!!

Heard the radio spot with Cyril, it is frustrating for sure. I hadn't heard anything about it till this morning. I really don't think our Government would pull something like that and potentially kill an NHL franchise in the wake. I'm not a big tax/political guy, but i hear it would really affect other businesses as well. I'm sure they would find some other creative way to help pay off the debt, maybe take away high end government official bonus's for 1 year. That along would erase it, lol.

Reading some news, seems Ottawa is getting more and more love in many area's, even in TO. Toronto Sun had a nice spot about Lehner and the Sens. More about how he may be ready, than anything. Like they are trying to stir the pot abit about our goalie situation. But in either case, they are paying attention. They brought up the idea of a possible Anderson trade, said one thing that actually did make sense, not that i agree he should be traded. But they said the return would be pretty good on the return for Brian Elliot, as that's what we used to land him. I guess if you look at it that way, it would.

Looking forward to Friday night. Go Sens Go!!!
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0 #13 SensCherub 2012-03-01 09:28
Quoting Tookie19:
Wow this tax law thing is real serious, are we even gonna see the product were putting together in 2-3 years...This would be a huge shame.


No, it's not serious. Do you take every other bullsh*t comment that comes out of the mouth of a politician seriously? It made the paper...big deal. Leeder's reacting to it to cut the legs off the idea at it's inception. That's simply due diligence.
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0 #14 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 09:33
Quoting SensCherub:
Quoting spezzerman:
Quoting SensCherub:
Dean must be loving the free publicity.

Leeder isn't politicing, he's reacting. This is a complete non-issue in my opinion. It would impact all Canadian teams, not just Ottawa. It was a suggestion proposed by the tards of Ontario to the feds. Winnipeg, Calgary and Van would all really feel the impact...Toronto and Mtl are more self-sufficient. Oh, and Quebec City/Hamilton could kiss their chances of a franchise goodbye.


this is a provincial issue? would it affect the rest of canada's teams because you feel other provinces would follow suit? how do you see it affecting non-Ontario teams?


It's not a provincial issue, it's a federal issue. It was simply proposed by provincial tards to the feds. That's my understanding of it anyways.


Again, knowing nothing on the subject. Ottawa does have a lot of tickets used for Gov and as business related hand off, which are tax write offs. I'll admit, I've been handed a few freebies myself throughout the years. So yeah, the Sens would take a hit on that. But wouldn't Toronto? As self-sufficient as they seem, the entire rink is suits each and every game. You have to think that many of the asses in those seats did NOT buy the ticket, it was given to them for one reason or another. The common theme you hear from Toronto fans is they cannot even get their hands on a ticket, even in the 300's. That's why the real fans all travel to Ottawa and Montreal to cheer on the blue.
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0 #15 Tookie 2012-03-01 09:35
Quoting SensCherub:
Quoting Tookie19:
Wow this tax law thing is real serious, are we even gonna see the product were putting together in 2-3 years...This would be a huge shame.


No, it's not serious. Do you take every other bullsh*t comment that comes out of the mouth of a politician seriously? It made the paper...big deal. Leeder's reacting to it to cut the legs off the idea at it's inception. That's simply due diligence.


Well hell its not like Leeder can stop it, if Gov gets backing from the Toronto folks, this will happen, we all know Toronto is Ontario's baby, any excuse to help it they will do it, no matter the costs to Ottawa.
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+1 #16 53N5FAN 2012-03-01 09:41
Seriously?!?

The amount of money that the province generates (ie, through tax on everything from payroll to beer sales) by having a sports franchise is DENFINITELY more than the total tax break businesses receive when writing of 50% of the ticket price; well, maybe not for the Lynx/Fat Cats, lol. There is so much waste in government, why they'd start by messing with a source of revenue is beyond me... not to mention one that SO many Canadians feel so passionately about!

I'd actually be a fan of eliminating the tax breaks for teams that, i donno, generate the kind of cash that MLSE does; or having a graduated system that allows up to 50% tax write-off for tickets for small market teams, 30% for medium market teams, etc. etc. etc. you get the picture... I wondering if any of this was discussed and/or thought through; I wonder if this WHOLE thing was just a media campaign by the provincial government...
No, no... they wouldn't do that; government is all about swift, carefully-consi dered and meaningful action... right?
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+3 #17 miguel 2012-03-01 09:42
McGinty is an asshole SENSCHIRP READER!
He is proposing this to the Feds, so that they can change the tax laws, and then each Province can impose this in their province.
It is real and a serious threat to Ottawa. TO will be minimally affected, and no other province has a complete idiot running their province that would impose this, so Ottawa is the only one really threatened (and would kill any other team in Southern Ontario)

McGinty believes the tax break given to businesses would make up some revenue.

Hey STUPID what if this forces Melnyk to move the team outside of Ontario, not only will you not have those buinesses buying suites, but you will lose all the Revenues from the NHL team.

I hate to mix hockey with politics but this McGinty piece of crap has really ticked me off, and this latest recommendation is proof of what a arrogant idiot he really is.

We cannot sit idle and let him continue with this short sited idiocy!!!
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+4 #18 53N5FAN 2012-03-01 09:45
Quoting miguel:
We cannot sit idle and let him continue with this short sited idiocy!!!


LET'S REVOLT!!!

...after the playoffs...
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0 #19 SensCherub 2012-03-01 09:48
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Again, knowing nothing on the subject. Ottawa does have a lot of tickets used for Gov and as business related hand off, which are tax write offs. I'll admit, I've been handed a few freebies myself throughout the years. So yeah, the Sens would take a hit on that. But wouldn't Toronto? As self-sufficient as they seem, the entire rink is suits each and every game. You have to think that many of the asses in those seats did NOT buy the ticket, it was given to them for one reason or another. The common theme you hear from Toronto fans is they cannot even get their hands on a ticket, even in the 300's. That's why the real fans all travel to Ottawa and Montreal to cheer on the blue.


As corporate taxes go, the deduction is 50% on sports and entertainment, not 100%.

Civil servants are not even allowed to accept tickets from an entity that could stand financially benefit from the government anymore either.

The issue is that by doing away completely with sports and entertainment tax deductions, business' would cease spending money on the games as they would get no tax credits, whereas they could continue to take clients, etc out for dinners and other events with a 100% deduction. It basically cripples corporate revenue for the team.
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+2 #20 SensChirp 2012-03-01 09:50
Quoting 53N5FAN:
Quoting miguel:
We cannot sit idle and let him continue with this short sited idiocy!!!


LET'S REVOLT!!!

...after the playoffs...

Hahah agreed.

I really don't think this move will have any traction anyway. The Leafs wouldn't be happy either and pissing off the Leafs and their fan base is an awful political move.
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+3 #21 boom 2012-03-01 09:53
I don't think I'm one of those head-in-the-san d guys, and I know we shouldn't ignore this, but it's a sad day in Chirpsville when we spend more time debating politics then we do hockey.
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+2 #22 SensChirp 2012-03-01 10:01
Quoting boom:
I don't think I'm one of those head-in-the-sand guys, and I know we shouldn't ignore this, but it's a sad day in Chirpsville when we spend more time debating politics then we do hockey.

Product of a few days off between games I suppose. It's an issue worth discussing but not one to get too worried about.
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+7 #23 The Dutch Treat 2012-03-01 10:02
I'm actually not that worried...Melny k is a smart man and he can really stick it to Ontario in one small move.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, The Gatineau Senators, playing out of a new downtown HULL arena.
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0 #24 miguel 2012-03-01 10:03
Quoting boom:
I don't think I'm one of those head-in-the-sand guys, and I know we shouldn't ignore this, but it's a sad day in Chirpsville when we spend more time debating politics then we do hockey.


Yes Boom but if this insanity by our Provincial leader who is only further proving his stupidity, gets to the anti sports masses, they will turn this into a debate that will only gain steam... yes we are all sports fanatics here but the reality sports fans are not a overwhelming majority... there are those who are anit sports, and would love to have this go through.

McGinty should never have opened up pandora's box, this will spark a debate that is not needed by the Sens or Melnyk... IMO of course
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+4 #25 SensCherub 2012-03-01 10:04
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting boom:
I don't think I'm one of those head-in-the-sand guys, and I know we shouldn't ignore this, but it's a sad day in Chirpsville when we spend more time debating politics then we do hockey.

Product of a few days off between games I suppose. It's an issue worth discussing but not one to get too worried about.


Agreed.

Anyone else want to see a goalie fight between Lehner and Emery tomorrow?
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0 #26 miguel 2012-03-01 10:06
Quoting The Dutch Treat:
I'm actually not that worried...Melnyk is a smart man and he can really stick it to Ontario in one small move.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, The Gatineau Senators, playing out of a new downtown HULL arena.


love you way of thinking... not sure how real it can be, but love that threat to our ignorant Provincial leaders!
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0 #27 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 10:07
Sorry to bring politics to a hockey forum but this is what our team is faced with.

This tax bullshit is an absolute joke.

The Leafs would lose the tax break on most of their corporate boxes too. Some companies would stop buying them, but there it is different, there are other asses waiting to take those seats.

Here it would hurt us enormously, and you have to wonder if these retards are perfectly aware of this.

Today in Ontario, pretty much any "entertainment" expense that can be tied to a business use and written off as a tax deduction. The idea is "a dinner with clients to discuss business is a legitimate business expense". Same goes for hockey tickets and just about ANYTHING you can think of with the exception of golf memberships and green fees. Seriously you can write off $1000 worth of tequila shots and lap dances at a strip club.

Do these idiots suggest we get rid of ALL those tax breaks or are they singling out sports only. They want to get rid of hockey they should get rid of ALL entertainment expenses.

"Ontario allows businesses to write off up to 50 per cent of all tickets and luxury suites for sporting events and other live performances like theatre, concerts and fashion shows. Entertainment costs at night clubs, social clubs and sporting clubs are also deductible."

This would hit the Senators hard, but yes also hurt OHL teams in markets where they are the top tier of hockey, it would also put a bullet in the head of NHL expansion to Ontario...

Provinces and states usually try to BUILD incentives for more business to come to their region instead of competing regions. This brings jobs to our province, creates job, creates spending and MAKES tax dollars.

Seriously the provincial Liberals are absolute retards. Anyone who has voted for them in the past, please remember this kind of bullshit the next time we have an election.
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0 #28 SensCherub 2012-03-01 10:17
Quoting RUSHRLZ:

Today in Ontario, pretty much any "entertainment" expense that can be tied to a business use and written off as a tax deduction. The idea is "a dinner with clients to discuss business is a legitimate business expense". Same goes for hockey tickets and just about ANYTHING you can think of with the exception of golf memberships and green fees. Seriously you can write off $1000 worth of tequila shots and lap dances at a strip club.
Do these idiots suggest we get rid of ALL those tax breaks or are they singling out sports only. They want to get rid of hockey they should get rid of ALL entertainment expenses.

"Ontario allows businesses to write off up to 50 per cent of all tickets and luxury suites for sporting events and other live performances like theatre, concerts and fashion shows. Entertainment costs at night clubs, social clubs and sporting clubs are also deductible."

This would hit the Senators hard, but yes also hurt OHL teams in markets where they are the top tier of hockey, it would also put a bullet in the head of NHL expansion to Ontario...

Provinces and states usually try to BUILD incentives for more business to come to their region instead of competing regions. This brings jobs to our province, creates job, creates spending and MAKES tax dollars.

Seriously the provincial Liberals are absolute retards. Anyone who has voted for them in the past, please remember this kind of bullshit the next time we have an election.


No, you can't write booze off at all and you'll never get a receipt from a dancer.

I'm making an assumption on the latter :P
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+1 #29 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 10:27
Quoting SensCherub:

No, you can't write booze off at all


Of course you can are you kidding me?
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+2 #30 Tookie 2012-03-01 10:32
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensCherub:

No, you can't write booze off at all


Of course you can are you kidding me?


Of course you can its entertainment.
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+1 #31 miguel 2012-03-01 10:33
Brilliantly stated RUSHRLZ.

of course we all think that this is proposterous, but I can assure you the anti sport, tree hugging people out there will be all over this, and will be supporting this stupidity.
The Stupidity or McGunty is unbelievable!
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0 #32 SensCherub 2012-03-01 10:37
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensCherub:

No, you can't write booze off at all


Of course you can are you kidding me?


No, I'm not kidding you. I own a business...I'm pretty tuned in to what I can and can't write off.

You can write off 100% of food, but no booze.

Edit: You are allowed two events per year (i.e. x-mas party) where you can write booze off, but they have to be in-house type functions.
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+1 #33 miguel 2012-03-01 10:37
Quoting SensCherub:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:

Today in Ontario, pretty much any "entertainment" expense that can be tied to a business use and written off as a tax deduction. The idea is "a dinner with clients to discuss business is a legitimate business expense". Same goes for hockey tickets and just about ANYTHING you can think of with the exception of golf memberships and green fees. Seriously you can write off $1000 worth of tequila shots and lap dances at a strip club.
Do these SENSCHIRP READERs suggest we get rid of ALL those tax breaks or are they singling out sports only. They want to get rid of hockey they should get rid of ALL entertainment expenses.

"Ontario allows businesses to write off up to 50 per cent of all tickets and luxury suites for sporting events and other live performances like theatre, concerts and fashion shows. Entertainment costs at night clubs, social clubs and sporting clubs are also deductible."

This would hit the Senators hard, but yes also hurt OHL teams in markets where they are the top tier of hockey, it would also put a bullet in the head of NHL expansion to Ontario...

Provinces and states usually try to BUILD incentives for more business to come to their region instead of competing regions. This brings jobs to our province, creates job, creates spending and MAKES tax dollars.

Seriously the provincial Liberals are absolute retards. Anyone who has voted for them in the past, please remember this kind of bullshit the next time we have an election.


No, you can't write booze off at all and you'll never get a receipt from a dancer.

I'm making an assumption on the latter :P


Yes you can... and no not a stripper, unless she happens to also be your waitress ;)... not that I would know about any of that of course!
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0 #34 darthsens911 2012-03-01 10:39
LOL... Emery vs Lehner would be crazy and entertaining but would probably end up with us running with Bishop till Andy is healthy since Sugar Ray would likely mess him up.

I know Lehner has that edge and size to match it, I doubt he has the boxing background Emery has.
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0 #35 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 10:40
Quoting SensCherub:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensCherub:

No, you can't write booze off at all


Of course you can are you kidding me?


No, I'm not kidding you. I own a business...I'm pretty tuned in to what I can and can't write off.

You can write off 100% of food, but no booze.


Maybe it is different for small business, but I can assure you I expense meals + drinks on a regular basis and have clarified that as a write-off from our CFO. Maybe you can't expense a case of vodka from the LCBO, not sure... but certainly coupled with other entertainment expenses, which is most obviously usually meals etc, that this is covered.
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0 #36 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 10:43
Quoting darthsens911:
LOL... Emery vs Lehner would be crazy and entertaining but would probably end up with us running with Bishop till Andy is healthy since Sugar Ray would likely mess him up.

I know Lehner has that edge and size to match it, I doubt he has the boxing background Emery has.


I have a feeling that with the health issues Ray has had to battle through recently, the last thing he'd want to do is exchange knuckle sandwiches if at all avoidable.

That would be deadly entertaining though. I'd love to see Lehner scrap, was half way hopping that the Boston game would have turned into a melee and that he may have got a chance to face off with Thomas. :)
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+1 #37 Alcatraz 2012-03-01 10:47
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensCherub:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensCherub:

No, you can't write booze off at all


Of course you can are you kidding me?


No, I'm not kidding you. I own a business...I'm pretty tuned in to what I can and can't write off.

You can write off 100% of food, but no booze.


Maybe it is different for small business, but I can assure you I expense meals + drinks on a regular basis and have clarified that as a write-off from our CFO. Maybe you can't expense a case of vodka from the LCBO, not sure... but certainly coupled with other entertainment expenses, which is most obviously usually meals etc, that this is covered.


In terms of a company "writing" off thats completely different than "tax shelter"

As a business owner you can "write-off" anything you want. Classify it as entertainment expenses, marketing expenses, miscelaneous expenses etc etc etc. Any expense technically is a "write-off"

Expenses cut down your bottom line, and you pay taxes on bottom line.

Donations and "entertainment" tax shelters are used after EBIT, which then brings down your taxes thus creating a "shelter" similar to your RRSP on personal income tax returns
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0 #38 SensCherub 2012-03-01 10:52
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensCherub:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensCherub:

No, you can't write booze off at all


Of course you can are you kidding me?


No, I'm not kidding you. I own a business...I'm pretty tuned in to what I can and can't write off.

You can write off 100% of food, but no booze.


Maybe it is different for small business, but I can assure you I expense meals + drinks on a regular basis and have clarified that as a write-off from our CFO. Maybe you can't expense a case of vodka from the LCBO, not sure... but certainly coupled with other entertainment expenses, which is most obviously usually meals etc, that this is covered.


Expensing is not the same as writing off. Expensing is basically the cost of doing business. Writing off (the way I was presenting it) is a tax shelter.

Your CFO allowing you to expense booze in no way means that the company is writing it off.

Alcatraz differentiated between the two well.
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+3 #39 SensChirp 2012-03-01 10:53
I have learned more in this thread than I have in any other before it. Thanks for the tax lessons folks!
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+1 #40 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 10:58
I was just looking at the schedule for the Senators and realized we only have 9 home games left on the season. Then noticed only 2 home games in April, which I actually have tickets for, Carolina and Boston. Great way to end the regular season for sure. I can just imagine how important those last 2 home games will be, points are so critical right now and playing Boston in our last home game should be a riot!

On another note, does anyone think we'll see someone pass the 100 point mark this year and if so, who? Right now only 4 players have hit the 70+ being Malkin 79, Stamkos 76, Giroux 72 and Spezza 71 (Wow, Spezza is killing it this year). Just behind them are Kessle, Lupul and who else but Karlsson!!!
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0 #41 SensCherub 2012-03-01 11:01
Quoting madpajamma:
I was just looking at the schedule for the Senators and realized we only have 9 home games left on the season. Then noticed only 2 home games in April, which I actually have tickets for, Carolina and Boston. Great way to end the regular season for sure. I can just imagine how important those last 2 home games will be, points are so critical right now and playing Boston in our last home game should be a riot!

On another note, does anyone think we'll see someone pass the 100 point mark this year and if so, who? Right now only 4 players have hit the 70+ being Malkin 79, Stamkos 76, Giroux 72 and Spezza 71 (Wow, Spezza is killing it this year). Just behind them are Kessle, Lupul and who else but Karlsson!!!


Malkin has the only legit shot at it imho.
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-5 #42 Mike Bauer 2012-03-01 11:02
As a business owner myself, Mike Bauer can confidently say that they would find a way to survive, but would need more creative ways to get around things. Better accounting, and they likely don't want to do this because whatever they are doing now works.

That said, Mike Bauer doesn't think this tax bill will pass. I'd put it at less than 10% chance, and Mike Bauer likes those odds.
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0 #43 WeAreSensFans! 2012-03-01 11:06
Who the hell voted these assholes in anyways??

didn't you know don't vote liberal!
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+5 #44 boom 2012-03-01 11:06
Quoting Mike Bauer:
As a business owner myself, Mike Bauer can confidently say that they would find a way to survive, but would need more creative ways to get around things. Better accounting, and they likely don't want to do this because whatever they are doing now works.

That said, Mike Bauer doesn't think this tax bill will pass. I'd put it at less than 10% chance, and Mike Bauer likes those odds.

Mike Bauer should get over himself.
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+1 #45 Sensnation 2012-03-01 11:09
Quoting madpajamma:
I was just looking at the schedule for the Senators and realized we only have 9 home games left on the season. Then noticed only 2 home games in April, which I actually have tickets for, Carolina and Boston. Great way to end the regular season for sure. I can just imagine how important those last 2 home games will be, points are so critical right now and playing Boston in our last home game should be a riot!

On another note, does anyone think we'll see someone pass the 100 point mark this year and if so, who? Right now only 4 players have hit the 70+ being Malkin 79, Stamkos 76, Giroux 72 and Spezza 71 (Wow, Spezza is killing it this year). Just behind them are Kessle, Lupul and who else but Karlsson!!!


Malkin I think will make it for sure, and I think Stamkos has a good shot at it too.

Other than that, really only Crosby if he comes back for a game or two ;)
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-1 #46 Smash_88 2012-03-01 11:10
Quoting WeAreSensFans!:
Who the hell voted these assholes in anyways??

didn't you know don't vote liberal!


It's the same as the Federal politics, you vote the lesser of the idiots...

You think McGuinty is bad? Hudak had no platform whatsoever, he was banking on people being so upset with McGuinty that he could just get in by being the "other guy"

As idiotic as some of the things McGuinty has said, on the whole he actually isn't too bad... Basically the same as Harper...
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0 #47 WeAreSensFans! 2012-03-01 11:14
Quoting Smash_88:
Quoting WeAreSensFans!:
Who the hell voted these assholes in anyways??

didn't you know don't vote liberal!


It's the same as the Federal politics, you vote the lesser of the idiots...

You think McGuinty is bad? Hudak had no platform whatsoever, he was banking on people being so upset with McGuinty that he could just get in by being the "other guy"

As idiotic as some of the things McGuinty has said, on the whole he actually isn't too bad... Basically the same as Harper...


I guess we'll all vote NDP next time.
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0 #48 Alcatraz 2012-03-01 11:18
Is everyone calling Lehner a rock star who is out of control at times all because of his one attempted fight this year in the AHL?

Because I am getting the vibe many people here are eager to compare him to Emery and enjoy comparing

He is vocal sure, but I highly doubt you will see Lehner ever be as physical as Emery was in net..Just not happening

Goalie fights happen sure, but no one expects Price or Thomas to fight again lol
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+3 #49 alfanerd 2012-03-01 11:22
McGuinty is so retarded, it would be funny if it werent so dangerous.

He has managed the province like a drunken sailor for 8 years, now finds himself in huge self-inflicted hole. He asks Don Drummond how to fix it, Drummond comes back with a report that says basically all the dumb "clean power" BS you've been bragging about needs to go, it's costly and ineffective. McGuinty ignores that. Now he wants to be seen to "do something" so he proposes ending the tax write-off, despite the fact that doing so would reduce revenues, not increase them.

Anybody who voted for McGuinty in the past should hang their head in shame.

I hope sens fans will mobilize and expose McGuinty for the opportunistic lying sack of sh1t that he is.
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+1 #50 Muckalt 2012-03-01 11:28
The resistance to this tax issue should be greater in Toronto than Ottawa. Ottawa has a greater proportion of seats filled by individuals who bought their own ticket. All those sushi eating douchebags who crawl out to their platinum seats mid-period at the ACC are in corporate seats. I was taken to one of those games, to pose as a sushi eating douchebag (which was easy for me), but secretly cheer for a Leafs' loss. I learned later that the pair of platinum seats that we were in, which were Chairman's Suite seats but not a box, were $93,000 per year. If the companies can't expense those seats, they won't buy them. There's no way the Leafs could find enough Joe Publics to fill those seats at those prices and on their own dime. This should be just another one of Dalton's dumb ideas that gets no traction.
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0 #51 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 11:29
On another note what is the deadline for signing NCAA free agents? Murray has always loved his college kids, I wonder if we have our eye on anyone this year...

I know we not be appealing as last year when players knew with our weak roster they were likely to get a good shot with the big club, but has anyone head of any Sens interest in any specific players?

HockeysFuture.com breaks down the Top 10 here: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/13844/top_collegiate_free_agents_drawing_nhl_interest/
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0 #52 Sensnation 2012-03-01 11:31
I could see the NHL stepping in on behalf of Canadian teams, because this would not only reduce ticket prices, and thus revenue/bottom line, but would really hurt the salary cap for the league as a whole, as most teams have been operating on the basis that it will continue to go up at least marginally.

A sudden decrease in revenue like this would create a sudden and drastic drop in the salary cap that would affect the entire league.
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0 #53 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 11:32
^--- sorry to bring up hockey talk by the way, Chirp might prefer learning a bit more about Canadian tax law.
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0 #54 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 11:35
Quoting Sensnation:
I could see the NHL stepping in on behalf of Canadian teams, because this would not only reduce ticket prices, and thus revenue/bottom line, but would really hurt the salary cap for the league as a whole, as most teams have been operating on the basis that it will continue to go up at least marginally.

A sudden decrease in revenue like this would make a sudden and drastic drop in the salary cap that would affect the entire league.


But you know some tree hugging anti-sports funding bitches will take a point like this and infer: "So Canadian tax dollars are propping up the revenue and salary cap of the entire NHL?!"

Next thing you know we'd have a dozen thousand granola munching hairy armpit motherf**kers protesting on Queen's Park and Parliament Hill admonishing our government to end this travesty immediately.

:cP
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0 #55 SensChirp 2012-03-01 11:37
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
On another note what is the deadline for signing NCAA free agents? Murray has always loved his college kids, I wonder if we have our eye on anyone this year...

I know we not be appealing as last year when players knew with our weak roster they were likely to get a good shot with the big club, but has anyone head of any Sens interest in any specific players?

HockeysFuture.com breaks down the Top 10 here: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/13844/top_collegiate_free_agents_drawing_nhl_interest/

Unlike past years, the Senators don't have the added perk of a roster spot to offer a young guy coming out of college. Can't say for certain, but I don't get the impression the Sens will be involved with any college guys this year.
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-2 #56 Smash_88 2012-03-01 11:37
Quoting alfanerd:
McGuinty is so retarded, it would be funny if it werent so dangerous.

He has managed the province like a drunken sailor for 8 years, now finds himself in huge self-inflicted hole. He asks Don Drummond how to fix it, Drummond comes back with a report that says basically all the dumb "clean power" BS you've been bragging about needs to go, it's costly and ineffective. McGuinty ignores that. Now he wants to be seen to "do something" so he proposes ending the tax write-off, despite the fact that doing so would reduce revenues, not increase them.

Anybody who voted for McGuinty in the past should hang their head in shame.

I hope sens fans will mobilize and expose McGuinty for the opportunistic lying sack of sh1t that he is.


I don't.

It's a very dumb thing to vote someone else in, because you don't like the current guy... That's essentially the option we were left with.

As I said, McGuinty isn't the brightest, but on the whole he hasn't damaged the province the way the other parties would have. Lesser of the evils.

It's the exact reason I also voted for Harper in the last election.
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+6 #57 boom 2012-03-01 11:39
"sushi eating douchebags" and "granola munching hairy armpit motherf**kers"?

No wonder I can't stay away from this site - classic.
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0 #58 SensCherub 2012-03-01 11:40
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
On another note what is the deadline for signing NCAA free agents? Murray has always loved his college kids, I wonder if we have our eye on anyone this year...

I know we not be appealing as last year when players knew with our weak roster they were likely to get a good shot with the big club, but has anyone head of any Sens interest in any specific players?

HockeysFuture.com breaks down the Top 10 here: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/13844/top_collegiate_free_agents_drawing_nhl_interest/


I'm so over undrafted NCAA players right now. Butler and Da Costa have disappointed me after all the hype. I'd be fine with steering clear of them for a while.
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0 #59 alfanerd 2012-03-01 11:40
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting Sensnation:
I could see the NHL stepping in on behalf of Canadian teams, because this would not only reduce ticket prices, and thus revenue/bottom line, but would really hurt the salary cap for the league as a whole, as most teams have been operating on the basis that it will continue to go up at least marginally.

A sudden decrease in revenue like this would make a sudden and drastic drop in the salary cap that would affect the entire league.


But you know some tree hugging anti-sports funding bitches will take a point like this and infer: "So Canadian tax dollars are propping up the revenue and salary cap of the entire NHL?!"

Next thing you know we'd have a dozen thousand granola munching hairy armpit motherf**kers protesting on Queen's Park and Parliament Hill admonishing our government to end this travesty immediately.

:cP


We've been funding the f*cking "interpretive dances" and other crap nobody cares about for these tree-hugging sh1theads for all of our working lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUfKrQpQbg

Lefties want to fund retarded art nobody likes and wants to make it impossible for a hockey team everybody loves to operate. We should prepare to get on the war path over this. Besides, as many have correctly pointed out, if this tax break "costs" the province 15 million in foregone revenue, it also brings in well over that amount by allowing organizations like the Sens to operate.

On the other hand, subsidizing these so-called "artists" like that retard "interpretive dancer" margie gillis does not bring in any additional revenue.
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-1 #60 Mike Bauer 2012-03-01 11:41
Quoting boom:
Quoting Mike Bauer:
As a business owner myself, Mike Bauer can confidently say that they would find a way to survive, but would need more creative ways to get around things. Better accounting, and they likely don't want to do this because whatever they are doing now works.

That said, Mike Bauer doesn't think this tax bill will pass. I'd put it at less than 10% chance, and Mike Bauer likes those odds.

Mike Bauer should get over himself.


Boom,

Its hard for Mike Bauer to get over himself, when Mike Bauer is over you when it comes to complete hockey knowledge, Sens knowledge and overall good looks.

Thanks for coming out though.
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0 #61 alfanerd 2012-03-01 11:45
As I said, McGuinty isn't the brightest, but on the whole he hasn't damaged the province the way the other parties would have. Lesser of the evils.

I grant you that Hudak was not inspiring. But McGuinty did damage this province, BIG TIME.

Under his watch we have accumulated enormous debt, which is why now he has to be "seen to do something". Remember, this tax change would reduce revenues, not increase them. He's shooting himself in the foot to appear like he's being fiscally responsible. He's not, he's being fiscally irresponsible and economically retarded.

Ontario is now, because of McGuinty, a have-not province who is reduced to begging for equalization payments, essentially welfare payments, from richer provinces like Newfoundland and Saskatchewan! Seriously, Newfoundland and Saskatchewan are now subsidizing Ontario. Thanks McGuinty you weasly piece of sh1t.
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0 #62 boom 2012-03-01 11:46
Quoting Mike Bauer:
Quoting boom:
Quoting Mike Bauer:
As a business owner myself, Mike Bauer can confidently say that they would find a way to survive, but would need more creative ways to get around things. Better accounting, and they likely don't want to do this because whatever they are doing now works.

That said, Mike Bauer doesn't think this tax bill will pass. I'd put it at less than 10% chance, and Mike Bauer likes those odds.

Mike Bauer should get over himself.


Boom,

Its hard for Mike Bauer to get over himself, when Mike Bauer is over you when it comes to complete hockey knowledge, Sens knowledge and overall good looks.

Thanks for coming out though.


Sounds like you'd know all about "coming out"...
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0 #63 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 11:46
Seeing Karlsson sitting at 66 points with 17 games left, does anyone think he'll surpass the 80 point mark set by Lindstrom in the 05-06 season? TSN shows him on pace for 82, what do you all think?

Ottawa would have to remain in the thick of things. I guess it helps Karlsson that he got 13 pts in last 5 games played. He'd need to continue that type of pace for sure, but 14 points in 17 games doesn't sound out of reach.
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+1 #64 boom 2012-03-01 11:52
Quoting madpajamma:
Seeing Karlsson sitting at 66 points with 17 games left, does anyone think he'll surpass the 80 point mark set by Lindstrom in the 05-06 season? TSN shows him on pace for 82, what do you all think?

Ottawa would have to remain in the thick of things. I guess it helps Karlsson that he got 13 pts in last 5 games played. He'd need to continue that type of pace for sure, but 14 points in 17 games doesn't sound out of reach.

Yeah, and Spezza needs 19 in 17 to get to 90 points. I bet if he does that, then Karlsson would get to 80. They seem to be in on alot of each other's goals lately.
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0 #65 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 11:53
Quoting alfanerd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUfKrQpQbg

Holy cow, what a harsh interview!

As stupid as this "art form" might seem, this interviewer is beyond ignorant. LOL.

Too bad Margie wasn't in studio, a chick fight to close this out would have been amusing.
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0 #66 Smash_88 2012-03-01 11:55
Quoting alfanerd:
As I said, McGuinty isn't the brightest, but on the whole he hasn't damaged the province the way the other parties would have. Lesser of the evils.

I grant you that Hudak was not inspiring. But McGuinty did damage this province, BIG TIME.

Under his watch we have accumulated enormous debt, which is why now he has to be "seen to do something". Remember, this tax change would reduce revenues, not increase them. He's shooting himself in the foot to appear like he's being fiscally responsible. He's not, he's being fiscally irresponsible and economically retarded.

Ontario is now, because of McGuinty, a have-not province who is reduced to begging for equalization payments, essentially welfare payments, from richer provinces like Newfoundland and Saskatchewan! Seriously, Newfoundland and Saskatchewan are now subsidizing Ontario. Thanks McGuinty you weasly piece of sh1t.


You think it would have been different under any other party?

This tax thing is just random political crap... It wont happen and if it does then there will be some other way to go about it...

Anyway, just saw your post above about the Lefty retards, so I figure you are already set in your mind and there is no point debating this...
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-1 #67 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 12:03
Going back to the topic of Lehnsanity, I agree that we've taken what is already used and tweaked it without a lot of thought. It's been brought up that Ottawa is a little uncreative when it comes to these things. The Sens Mile, being taken from Calgary's Red Mile is a prime example. I'm not against using catchy phrases and things like that, but I would like to see Sens fans come up with something unique that hasn't been used before. Something we can call our own. Chirp, maybe you can make it a contest today to kill the time. Give us a little something to do, besides rant about tax crap, while waiting for tomorrows game day post.

Who can come up with the best Lehner name, besides Lehnsanity.

Here are a few Examples I thought of, sorry if I used up ALL the good ideas. ;)

Lehncredible, Lehntastic, Lehnawesome, Lehntence, Lehnplosive, Lehndiculous, Lehnderful, Lehntabulous, Lehnerfect, Lehnazing, Lehnclusive, Lehnjestic.
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0 #68 Mike Bauer 2012-03-01 12:07
Quoting boom:
Quoting Mike Bauer:
Quoting boom:
Quoting Mike Bauer:
As a business owner myself, Mike Bauer can confidently say that they would find a way to survive, but would need more creative ways to get around things. Better accounting, and they likely don't want to do this because whatever they are doing now works.

That said, Mike Bauer doesn't think this tax bill will pass. I'd put it at less than 10% chance, and Mike Bauer likes those odds.

Mike Bauer should get over himself.


Boom,

Its hard for Mike Bauer to get over himself, when Mike Bauer is over you when it comes to complete hockey knowledge, Sens knowledge and overall good looks.

Thanks for coming out though.


Sounds like you'd know all about "coming out"...


Nothing like a grade 6, homosexual joke. Do Mike Bauer a favour, stop posting in during your recess. Go back to your Social Studies class and stopping sneaking off to the library computers to post here.

Here's Mike Bauer's advice to you, don't become the drop out, welfare-case, hobo begging for quarters at the street corner by age 24 that your guidance counsellor projected in you. You're better than that. Well actually, you're probably not. But the world doesn't need more people like that (you).

Again, thanks for coming out. Cue yet another homosexual crack here....
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-1 #69 Mike Bauer 2012-03-01 12:10
Quoting madpajamma:
Going back to the topic of Lehnsanity, I agree that we've taken what is already used and tweaked it without a lot of thought. It's been brought up that Ottawa is a little uncreative when it comes to these things. The Sens Mile, being taken from Calgary's Red Mile is a prime example. I'm not against using catchy phrases and things like that, but I would like to see Sens fans come up with something unique that hasn't been used before. Something we can call our own. Chirp, maybe you can make it a contest today to kill the time. Give us a little something to do, besides rant about tax crap, while waiting for tomorrows game day post.

Who can come up with the best Lehner name, besides Lehnsanity.

Here are a few Examples I thought of, sorry if I used up ALL the good ideas. ;)

Lehncredible, Lehntastic, Lehnawesome, Lehntence, Lehnplosive, Lehndiculous, Lehnderful, Lehntabulous, Lehnerfect, Lehnazing, Lehnclusive, Lehnjestic.



Even though Mike Bauer doesn't like any of the examples you thought of, Mike Bauer gives you an A+ for trying. Seriously. Mike Bauer is glad you recognize the point Mike Bauer was trying to make yesterday.
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0 #70 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 12:10
@madpajamma I'll give you credit, at least on criticizing the fact that you aren't big on the Lehnsanity thing you are trying to come up with better ideas.

At the same time though you are just removing the "sanity" part and replacing it with alternate ending, it really is the same thing.

Nicknames need context so... if we don't want to use the "Lehner mania insanity is sweeping Ottawa, good god he is bigger than Lin!" meme with Lehnsanity, then maybe we just need to sleep on it for a couple of days or couple of years until an awesome nickname becomes apparent. Hard to just pull these things out of thin air.

:)
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0 #71 Mike Bauer 2012-03-01 12:15
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
@madpajamma I'll give you credit, at least on criticizing the fact that you aren't big on the Lehnsanity thing you are trying to come up with better ideas.

At the same time though you are just removing the "sanity" part and replacing it with alternate ending, it really is the same thing.

Nicknames need context so... if we don't want to use the "Lehner mania insanity is sweeping Ottawa, good god he is bigger than Lin!" meme with Lehnsanity, then maybe we just need to sleep on it for a couple of days or couple of years until an awesome nickname becomes apparent. Hard to just pull these things out of thin air.

:)


Agreed.
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0 #72 Alcatraz 2012-03-01 12:17
Its just tough to give someone a wicked macho nickname when your real name is Robin

I mean Robin is always the fall guy, the wingman, then shadow guy lol

RL30

If KLundquist is King Lundquist, and Lehner dad was his coach can we simply call our guy Prince Lehner

Only until Shane makes our team of course, but for now Prince Lehner? lol Best I got
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0 #73 Sandy 2012-03-01 12:23
Quoting St Nick:
The Sens are also having a Heritage Train, Hotel & hockey game against the Habs Mar 10 I believe. It's about $450 a person, I don't know too many who can afford that but that should be a good time as well. Cyril Leeder says they expect about 350 people to ride the train down to Montreal.



It's actually for the Mar 14th game... train leaves on the 13th... costs cover train, hotel & game ticket... It's on the Sens facebook page.

I'm really unnerved with this tax 'loophole' they want to close. The thought of the Sens leaving Ottawa is just making me sick...

So the money they say they will save.. they will 'lose' if the Sens leave. Losing tax on the team, players salaries and other employees salaries... concessions, tickets, paying UIC to those people put out of work.. Layoffs to businesses in the city that thrive on game night...

Remember the lockout -- how that affected businesses in the area?

I thought Finance Ministers would be smarter than that.. they really did not think this through.

They were only thinking of the Toronto area.... not any thought to the Sens. But it will also affect any Toronto area club...

This dunce Duncan character actually thinks it will help LOWER ticket prices to Leaf games... do you really think Rogers/Bell are going to lessen their revenue by lowering ticket prices? Did the Teacher's Pension know about this coming in -- and that is why they sold the team?

This will also affect the OHL teams that small businesses probably invest a lot in.

The large corporations will be okay with this.. but the OHL teams could be badly hurt financially by losing small corporate business.

Mr. McGinty... Leaf fan... political suicide...
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0 #74 DenisVial 2012-03-01 12:25
Quoting madpajamma:
Going back to the topic of Lehnsanity, I agree that we've taken what is already used and tweaked it without a lot of thought. It's been brought up that Ottawa is a little uncreative when it comes to these things. The Sens Mile, being taken from Calgary's Red Mile is a prime example. I'm not against using catchy phrases and things like that, but I would like to see Sens fans come up with something unique that hasn't been used before. Something we can call our own. Chirp, maybe you can make it a contest today to kill the time. Give us a little something to do, besides rant about tax crap, while waiting for tomorrows game day post.

Who can come up with the best Lehner name, besides Lehnsanity.

Here are a few Examples I thought of, sorry if I used up ALL the good ideas. ;)

Lehncredible, Lehntastic, Lehnawesome, Lehntence, Lehnplosive, Lehndiculous, Lehnderful, Lehntabulous, Lehnerfect, Lehnazing, Lehnclusive, Lehnjestic.


The Masked Robber?
Robin em blind!
The Puck Robber?
Robin & Stealin? (Play the Beastie Boys song after a big save.)
The Swede Robber?
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+5 #75 SensChirp 2012-03-01 12:26
Erik Karlsson named second star of the month in February.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=619942
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0 #76 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 12:27
Quoting Mike Bauer:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
@madpajamma I'll give you credit, at least on criticizing the fact that you aren't big on the Lehnsanity thing you are trying to come up with better ideas.

At the same time though you are just removing the "sanity" part and replacing it with alternate ending, it really is the same thing.

Nicknames need context so... if we don't want to use the "Lehner mania insanity is sweeping Ottawa, good god he is bigger than Lin!" meme with Lehnsanity, then maybe we just need to sleep on it for a couple of days or couple of years until an awesome nickname becomes apparent. Hard to just pull these things out of thin air.

:)


Agreed.


I agree as well, I was just throwing crap out there besides the addition of sanity. Honestly, if it's a nickname it should be something as cool as King Henrik in NY. You know, like Lehner the Great, or Lehngis Khan, Lehnoleon Bonaparte, lol.
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0 #77 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 12:28
If the NFL's Calvin Johnson can be called MEGATRON simply because of his stature then certainly we can come up with something for Lehner that is not necessarily related to his name...

Optimus Reime I hate to admit is another very cool nickname, again Transformers based.

Not that we want to mimic the GoBot meme but it'd be fun if our goaltending prospects nickname was a direct counter the the Leafs (used to be) golden boy.
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+1 #78 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 12:30
Quoting madpajamma:
Lehngis Khan


I love it! Too bad Genghis was a pretty brutal character in history, the organization may not officially endorse it, but I'm sure Jay & Dan on TSN would. LOL.
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+2 #79 jakester 2012-03-01 12:33
I love Condra's game, but if he doesn't start burying his chances soon, he'll be pushed aside. The guy makes things happen but he can't finish.
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+3 #80 Sandy 2012-03-01 12:33
Quoting WeAreSensFans!:
Who the hell voted these assholes in anyways??

didn't you know don't vote liberal!



I sure didn't...
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+3 #81 Alcatraz 2012-03-01 12:33
Robin Hood?
Robin of Loxley?
Robin Hood Prince of Thieves?

My personal Fav
Robin of Sherwood (Based on TV show, Sherwod Park, and the company who produces his stick lol)

or

Lets just call him "The Senate"

Shots get fired at him but nothing ever gets passed
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+1 #82 Tookie 2012-03-01 12:39
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting madpajamma:
Lehngis Khan


I love it! Too bad Genghis was a pretty brutal character in history, the organization may not officially endorse it, but I'm sure Jay & Dan on TSN would. LOL.


HAHA this is the best so far!

All I had was "Rockin Robin".
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0 #83 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 12:40
Quoting Alcatraz:
Robin Hood?
Robin of Loxley?
Robin Hood Prince of Thieves?

My personal Fav
Robin of Sherwood (Based on TV show, Sherwod Park, and the company who produces his stick lol)

or

Lets just call him "The Senate"

Shots get fired at him but nothing ever gets passed


To take the Robin of Loxley one step further. Robin of Lehner!!
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0 #84 Joe Bob 2012-03-01 12:42
Lehner puckin
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+1 #85 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 12:44
Too bad Jay and Dan don't do SportsDesk on Saturday mornings, otherwise I would ping Onrait and ask him if he'd drop a "Lehngis Khan" if he shuts out Chicago.

I'll have to remember that for next week.
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+1 #86 Tookie 2012-03-01 12:45
Could name his glove and blocker:

Judge & Jury
Law & Order
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0 #87 Mike Bauer 2012-03-01 12:47
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
If the NFL's Calvin Johnson can be called MEGATRON simply because of his stature then certainly we can come up with something for Lehner that is not necessarily related to his name...

Optimus Reime I hate to admit is another very cool nickname, again Transformers based.

Not that we want to mimic the GoBot meme but it'd be fun if our goaltending prospects nickname was a direct counter the the Leafs (used to be) golden boy.



Yeah, Optimus Reime is a great name, even though Reimer sucks. But it just goes to show, a little creativity will go a long way. It will come...Mike Bauer is proud and so happy to see you guys thinking outside the box. Way to go guys!
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0 #88 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 12:48
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Too bad Jay and Dan don't do SportsDesk on Saturday mornings, otherwise I would ping Onrait and ask him if he'd drop a "Lehngis Khan" if he shuts out Chicago.

I'll have to remember that for next week.


I thought it was pretty creative, Lehngis Khan does roll off the tongue well. And the dude had a mean streak!!

I forgot about the Optimus Reime name, then again not many are focused on Reimer right now. We also had Darth Gerber for awhile. Never was a fan of that one. What about Robtimus Prime!!!
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+2 #89 Tookie 2012-03-01 12:55
Gothenburg Strangler
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0 #90 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 12:56
Word plays with the first name... doesn't get much simpler or literal than:

The Robber

Stealin' goals like Robin Hood was stealin' gold.
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+2 #91 SensChirp 2012-03-01 12:57
Rob'em Later

Sorry...
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+1 #92 Sens1963 2012-03-01 12:58
Quoting Smash_88:
Quoting WeAreSensFans!:
Who the hell voted these assholes in anyways??

didn't you know don't vote liberal!


It's the same as the Federal politics, you vote the lesser of the SENSCHIRP READERs...

You think McGuinty is bad? Hudak had no platform whatsoever, he was banking on people being so upset with McGuinty that he could just get in by being the "other guy"

As SENSCHIRP READERic as some of the things McGuinty has said, on the whole he actually isn't too bad... Basically the same as Harper...


You are kidding right? The guy has screwed the people of Ontario from day one and you say he isn't that bad? everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie... McGuinty's platform is straight fiction!
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+1 #93 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 12:59
Quoting Tookie19:
Gothenburg Strangler


LOL.

Creative but seeing as how the Sens weren't very happy even with Emery's Tyson mask, I'm not sure what they'd think of a serial killer themed name. Haha.
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+2 #94 Tookie 2012-03-01 13:01
Robin the Barbarian
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0 #95 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 13:01
@Sens1963. I loathe McGuinty with the best of them, but on hockey forum we probably don't want this to descend into even more of a political debate than it already has, know what I'm saying?
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+1 #96 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 13:04
Quoting Tookie19:
Robin the Barbarian


Haha. This is good too, my second favorite so far after Lenghis Khan!
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+2 #97 Tookie 2012-03-01 13:09
Or a phrase like "Its all about the Lehnjamins baby!"
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0 #98 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 13:10
LEX LEHNERQuoting SensChirp:
Erik Karlsson named second star of the month in February.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=619942


You know what? Between Spezza, Anderson and Karlsson raking in weekly and monthly stars, I'd hazard to guess our players have earned more of these this year than in any years past.

Greta job guys and well deserved by King Karlsson!

Who the f**k knows, maybe Lengis Khan will be first star of the week this week!
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0 #99 Smash_88 2012-03-01 13:11
Quoting Sens1963:
Quoting Smash_88:
Quoting WeAreSensFans!:
Who the hell voted these assholes in anyways??

didn't you know don't vote liberal!


It's the same as the Federal politics, you vote the lesser of the SENSCHIRP READERs...

You think McGuinty is bad? Hudak had no platform whatsoever, he was banking on people being so upset with McGuinty that he could just get in by being the "other guy"

As SENSCHIRP READERic as some of the things McGuinty has said, on the whole he actually isn't too bad... Basically the same as Harper...


You are kidding right? The guy has screwed the people of Ontario from day one and you say he isn't that bad? everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie... McGuinty's platform is straight fiction!


Meh, he's done mostly what he said he would, like any politician once they receive power they change their stances.. My point is, McGuinty is nowhere near as bad as people make him out to be, he has put in some very good policies, but he's also put in some horrible ones...

Essentially what I am saying is that all political parties do this..

Problem is, you can't have a proper debate in politics, because everyone has a bias.

I have to ask though, what is it that screwed people so badly? I don't think I'm any worse off as a citizen then I was 10 years ago...
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0 #100 Tookie 2012-03-01 13:13
Mjolnir! Lehner's Hammer!

Or

Hammer of Rob!
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+2 #101 hq8 2012-03-01 13:16
my sens wishes for the next three months:
1. Karlsson hitting 90 pts or more
2. Sens-Wings SCF....all the naysayers and nonbelievers: yea go ahead roast me...all i gotta say is ALL BETS ARE OFF.
3. Karlsson going above PPG in the playoffs.
4. Spezz for the Conn Smythe.

obviously i have been dreaming and day-dreaming a bit too much lately.

BTW, if this tax law stuff is real...which it doesnt seem to be....where are McGuinty's allegiances.... .isn't he from Nepean????????
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0 #102 Tookie 2012-03-01 13:20
The Wishmaster!

As he will make our wish come true...eventual ly.
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+1 #103 Sensnation 2012-03-01 13:26
Red Robin

For his temper and his ability to lay an egg on the scoreboard!
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+1 #104 miguel 2012-03-01 13:28
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting Sensnation:
I could see the NHL stepping in on behalf of Canadian teams, because this would not only reduce ticket prices, and thus revenue/bottom line, but would really hurt the salary cap for the league as a whole, as most teams have been operating on the basis that it will continue to go up at least marginally.

A sudden decrease in revenue like this would make a sudden and drastic drop in the salary cap that would affect the entire league.


But you know some tree hugging anti-sports funding bitches will take a point like this and infer: "So Canadian tax dollars are propping up the revenue and salary cap of the entire NHL?!"

Next thing you know we'd have a dozen thousand granola munching hairy armpit motherf**kers protesting on Queen's Park and Parliament Hill admonishing our government to end this travesty immediately.

:cP


Love this quote Rush... just love it!
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0 #105 boom 2012-03-01 13:29
The Masked Robber?
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0 #106 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 13:35
Quoting miguel:
Love this quote Rush... just love it!


Glad you like it, upon reread I noticed I even forgot to use "pallid" as a descriptor, oh well! Haha.
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0 #107 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 13:38
Quoting Tookie19:
The Wishmaster!

As he will make our wish come true...eventually.


We need something tougher than that hahaha... although unrelated to anything I'd prefer The Beastmaster over Wishmaster.

Man... I can't wait until (if) Klinkhammer makes it to the bigs, he will be soooooo much easier.
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+1 #108 SensCherub 2012-03-01 13:38
The Lehnator
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+2 #109 Mark33 2012-03-01 13:43
Robin Swarchelehner
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+1 #110 boom 2012-03-01 13:47
Hey Chirp,
Completely unrelated to the current topic, but I had an idea for another contest.

Since we all spend so much time debating the merits of (almost) all of the current Senators, as well as the prospects - what if you were to have a contest where we could each send in a list of players whom we think will be with the Senators on opening day next season.

You could set the parameters - how many forwards, defencemen, etc.
You could even award bonus points for free agent signings. or for any player not currently belonging to the Sens.
I think it would be fun, and interesting to see the varying opinions. What do you (or any of you) think?
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+1 #111 TrueSensFan 2012-03-01 13:51
I won't even get started on the political debate (is there still a character limit Chirp? LOL)

I like some of the names you guys are coming up with.

I am a fan of Lehngis Khan but I may like Lex Lehner a little more

All I got is Lehnocide
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0 #112 SensChirp 2012-03-01 13:51
Quoting boom:
Hey Chirp,
Completely unrelated to the current topic, but I had an idea for another contest.
Since we all spend so much time debating the merits of (almost) all of the current Senators, as well as the prospects - what if you were to have a contest where we could each send in a list of players whom we think will be with the Senators on opening day next season.
You could set the parameters - how many forwards, defencemen, etc.
You could even award bonus points for free agent signings. or for any player not currently belonging to the Sens.
I think it would be fun, and interesting to see the varying opinions. What do you (or any of you) think?

Great idea for an offseason contest!
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+1 #113 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 13:54
Quoting TrueSensFan:
I won't even get started on the political debate (is there still a character limit Chirp? LOL)

I like some of the names you guys are coming up with.

I am a fan of Lehngis Khan but I may like Lex Lehner a little more

All I got is Lehnocide


Hahaha! Lehnocide sounds so great but is such a bad premise at the same time!
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0 #114 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 13:55
Quoting SensCherub:
The Lehnator


I think it would sound better as Lehnanator.
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+2 #115 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 13:57
This is dumb but funny, just popped into my head as my secretary intern was bending over to file some papers away...

Lululehner.

Hahaha.
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-3 #116 Spinorama 2012-03-01 13:58
Be careful of this "Lehnsanity" Sens fans, this reminds me of ... Lol Thumbs me down all you want on this one. haha

Carey debuted his hockey career in college with the Wisconsin Badgers in 1992. Jim Carey was the highest drafted goalie in the 1992 NHL Entry Draft, taken in the 2nd round, 32nd overall by the Washington Capitals. Before coming to Washington, Carey played in the World Junior Ice Hockey Championships in 1993 and played in the AHL with the Portland Pirates. In Portland, Carey took home numerous individual awards including the Dudley "Red" Garrett Memorial Award as the top rookie in the AHL and the Aldege "Baz" Bastien Memorial Award for top netminder in the AHL. He was also selected to the First All-Star Team.

In 1995, Carey made his NHL debut in Washington and went undefeated in his first seven games. He would finish the season with a 28-16-8 record and was selected to the NHL All-Rookie Team. This early success promoted him to Washington's starting goalie the following season - his best in the NHL. He played in 71 games, won 35, recorded 9 shutouts and finished with a GAA of 2.26. He won the Vezina Trophy for his efforts and was selected to the NHL First All-Star Team. The next fall, Carey was the backup to goalie Mike Richter on Team USA in the World Cup of Hockey. The United States would win gold by beating Team Canada in three games.

In 1997, he was traded midway through the season to the Boston Bruins in a blockbuster deal. Carey would never find his true form again in Boston and was sent down the minors a year later with the Providence Bruins in the AHL. Carey signed on as a free agent at the end of the season with the St. Louis Blues and played four games before deciding he had had enough of hockey.

As of right now there is a resemblance in both resumes of Lehner and Carey. Just saying.
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+3 #117 SensChirp 2012-03-01 13:58
Senators confirm that Lehngis Khan will start tomorrow night against Chicago.
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+1 #118 macdaddy 2012-03-01 14:01
I'll be there. Just bought my tickets. I'm bringing two buddies from Hull and Gatineau. It will be one guy's first NHL game ever! Look forward to it, and will be wearing my heritage Spezza j.
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+1 #119 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-01 14:02
I think it's a little early for Lehner nicknames, but if he keeps this up ... I'd go for ...

"The Minister of Defense"

BTW - what's with this Mike Bauer Clown? At least Tooks makes for good copy. Bauer is just making an ass out of himself.
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+4 #120 SensCherub 2012-03-01 14:02
The Ottawa Lehnators season has been Lehnsane and I just know that we're going to win the Lehnley Cup. The fans of the Toronto Maplehners are probably upset that we're Robin them of the Lehnlight, but so what? They just need to Lehn back and enjoy the show.
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+1 #121 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 14:04
Quoting SensChirp:
Senators confirm that Lehngis Khan will start tomorrow night against Chicago.


Frig guys... I really think Lehngis Khan can stick, it sounded perfect when Chirp just made this update!
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0 #122 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 14:05
Quoting SensChirp:
Senators confirm that Lehngis Khan will start tomorrow night against Chicago.


Ha ha ha... thanks for using my name creation. ;)
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+2 #123 macdaddy 2012-03-01 14:07
...and since things have already got political in here, let's just say that at least McGuinty actually won the election. Unlike someone who resorted to election fraud...
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0 #124 eli 2012-03-01 14:08
Please go to the attched link that lists all the MPPS for eastern Ontario; http://ottawa.cioc.ca/record/OCR2524?UseCICVw=13. I suggest that people start sending their MPPS emails voicing their concerns about the tax issue. Also, it wouldn't hurt to CC your federal MP so they are also aware of your concerns.

PS, I realize that almost all the MPPS are liberals, but a subtle hint of not voting for them in the next election might also be effective.
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+1 #125 SensChirp 2012-03-01 14:09
Quoting Sens Saint:
I think it's a little early for Lehner nicknames, but if he keeps this up ... I'd go for ...

"The Minister of Defense"

BTW - what's with this Mike Bauer Clown? At least Tooks makes for good copy. Bauer is just making an ass out of himself.

Reminds me of the name they gave to Dackell-Yashin-McEachern.

The Ministry of Offence
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0 #126 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 14:09
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
If the NFL's Calvin Johnson can be called MEGATRON simply because of his stature then certainly we can come up with something for Lehner that is not necessarily related to his name...

Optimus Reime I hate to admit is another very cool nickname, again Transformers based.

Not that we want to mimic the GoBot meme but it'd be fun if our goaltending prospects nickname was a direct counter the the Leafs (used to be) golden boy.


I wrote the Robimus Prime a few posts up, then searched up Transformers and they actually had a Rodimus Prime. So it was pretty close, lol. I then looked at a few other Transformer names that rang and bell and came up with these.

Romega Supreme
Robatron
Robinhide
Robtress Maximus
Lehnastator

Looking up these Transformers names brings back some memories I tell ya. But I do think Lehngis Khan is the best one of all.
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0 #127 Sensnation 2012-03-01 14:09
Quoting Spinorama:
...
Carey debuted his hockey career in college with the Wisconsin Badgers in 1992. Jim Carey was the highest drafted goalie in the 1992 NHL Entry Draft, taken in the 2nd round, 32nd overall by the Washington Capitals. Before coming to Washington, Carey played in the World Junior Ice Hockey Championships in 1993 and played in the AHL with the Portland Pirates. In Portland, Carey took home numerous individual awards including the Dudley "Red" Garrett Memorial Award as the top rookie in the AHL and the Aldege "Baz" Bastien Memorial Award for top netminder in the AHL. He was also selected to the First All-Star Team.

In 1995, Carey made his NHL debut in Washington and went undefeated in his first seven games. He would finish the season with a 28-16-8 record and was selected to the NHL All-Rookie Team. This early success promoted him to Washington's starting goalie the following season - his best in the NHL. He played in 71 games, won 35, recorded 9 shutouts and finished with a GAA of 2.26. He won the Vezina Trophy for his efforts and was selected to the NHL First All-Star Team. The next fall, Carey was the backup to goalie Mike Richter on Team USA in the World Cup of Hockey. The United States would win gold by beating Team Canada in three games.

In 1997, he was traded midway through the season to the Boston Bruins in a blockbuster deal. Carey would never find his true form again in Boston and was sent down the minors a year later with the Providence Bruins in the AHL. Carey signed on as a free agent at the end of the season with the St. Louis Blues and played four games before deciding he had had enough of hockey.

As of right now there is a resemblance in both resumes of Lehner and Carey. Just saying.


When did Carey bring his team to a Calder Cup Championship? Also Carey toiled in college for a few years. I don't see the comparison at all!
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0 #128 miguel 2012-03-01 14:13
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
This is dumb but funny, just popped into my head as my secretary intern was bending over to file some papers away...

Lululehner.

Hahaha.


why is her name Lulu? :)
Nice Rush, wish I had your view... she may be bending over for a reason other than filing... Kiddin of course... no disrespect to the wise ladies on this forum ( ie Sandy )
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+1 #129 SensChirp 2012-03-01 14:15
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
This is dumb but funny, just popped into my head as my secretary intern was bending over to file some papers away...

Lululehner.

Hahaha.

Hahah this one cracked me up.
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+3 #130 BMKing 2012-03-01 14:18
Quoting Sens Saint:
I think it's a little early for Lehner nicknames, but if he keeps this up ... I'd go for ...

"The Minister of Defense"

BTW - what's with this Mike Bauer Clown? At least Tooks makes for good copy. Bauer is just making an ass out of himself.


I can picture Bauer sitting infront of his CPU in boxers eating doritos while typing with his orangy fingers while giggling.
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0 #131 SensChirp 2012-03-01 14:19
A couple from Twitter...

King Lehnrick

His nickname may just end up being a symbol, much like Prince.

;)
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0 #132 boom 2012-03-01 14:20
Quoting Sens Saint:
I think it's a little early for Lehner nicknames, but if he keeps this up ... I'd go for ...

"The Minister of Defense"

BTW - what's with this Mike Bauer Clown? At least Tooks makes for good copy. Bauer is just making an ass out of himself.

Thank You.
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0 #133 Tookie 2012-03-01 14:21
Maybe we should stick with Lehner as the Beast!
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0 #134 andreasdackell 2012-03-01 14:22
Those were the good old days playin with shawn and alexei! To me lehner will always be "The Swedish Mamba"
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0 #135 taxman 2012-03-01 14:22
1. If this is an amendment to federal tax legislation, forget it. The Cons' main supporters are business owners. I don't think they're going to do something to tick off their base.
2. If it's just provincial, then we're talking about an Ontario rate of 11.5%. The deduction is only 50%, so effectively, on a $100 ticket, this results in an extra $6.50 of tax. Yes, that's a 6% increase, but not unbearable by any means. If it's federal and provincial, you're looking at a 13% increase. That could be significant I guess.

The real risk is business people not understanding the impact on their bottom line. Even if the impact isn't actually big, it could be bad if they "think" it's big.

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around why this is so much worse for the Sens than for the other teams. Maybe our corporate prices are higher, and therefore, an increase in the cost would hurt us more?
Either way though, I can't see the true business people refusing to buy tickets simply because they don't get a write-off. Some people might, but you've gotta think the impact on client relatinoships is a sufficient incentive to keep going to games, and keep buying corporate suites.
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0 #136 Sensnation 2012-03-01 14:24
Quoting SensChirp:
A couple from Twitter...

King Lehnrick

His nickname may just end up being a symbol, much like Prince.

;)


I think that 1st one is too much of a ripoff.
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-2 #137 Timic 2012-03-01 14:27
Hey alfanard, you don't like one policy suggestion. This doesn't justify Cherry-esque "lefty" demonizing rants. Hockey wouldn't exist as it does in Canada if it hadn't and didn't continue to be funded heavily by government - by lefty tree-hugging pinkos. Would there be a team in Winnipeg without government funding? Nope. Quebec in the future? Nope. Edmonton? Nope. likely government funding was used to construct Scotiabank place. The lefty CBC was responsible for making hockey popular in Canada in the early days of the Leafs. There would never have been HNIC without government funding. Government programs fund municipal arenas and hockey programs all over the country. This is massively expensive. Much more expensive than some "interpretive dance" show.

Also, I don't get to write off my Sens tickets as an expense - why should some freeloader get to just because he has a business, or expense account?

Furthermore, there are many hocky fans that are also environmentalis ts - true story. The two are not mutually exclusive.

If closing a tax loophole may threaten an important cultural object like the Sens - one that cannot make a go of it without these types of tax-breaks and a history of subsidy, then alternative ways to support the team can be devised by government to support the continuance of the franchise. Or the closing of this loophole can be defeated due to the need to subsidise the Sens via tax loopholes.

That's pragmatic. This partisan straw-man-smiti ng rant of yours is just misguided.
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0 #138 Dr Demento 2012-03-01 14:30
Boy Wonder?
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0 #139 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-01 14:32
The reason why Lehner is so special is his pedigree, attitude and confidence.

The 20 year old just oozes the anger to win. As all have said, after what he did in last years cup win, he'd simply lost interest in a throw away AHL losing season.

Can you blame him?

What excites me about Lehner is his ability to win the games that matter most.

Lalime and Emery couldn't do it. The Dominator never got the chance.
Anderson is our #1 and if healthy will lead the way into the playoffs, but I just get a funny feeling that somewhere down the line, he's going to falter and "The Minister of Defense" will be called upon to add a spark, leading the Black and Red to the series come back win ... and into the next round.

Remember - Boston almost lost in round one to the Habs last year. Just some food for thought.
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0 #140 TrueSensFan 2012-03-01 14:33
Well if we are going that route then I would have said "Nightwing" but I am not sure how many would get the reference lol
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0 #141 miguel 2012-03-01 14:35
Quoting Timic:
Hey, you don't like one policy suggestion. This doesn't justify Cherry-esque "lefty" demonizing rants. Hockey wouldn't exist as it does in Canada if it hadn't and didn't continue to be funded heavily by government - by lefty tree-hugging pinkos. Would there be a team in Winnipeg without government funding? Nope. Quebec in the future? Nope. Edmonton? Nope. likely government funding was used to construct Scotiabank place. The lefty CBC was responsible for making hockey popular in Canada in the early days of the Leafs. There would never have been HNIC without government funding. Government programs fund municipal arenas and hockey programs all over the country. This is massively expensive. Much more expensive than some "interpretive dance" show.

Also, I don't get to write off my Sens tickets as an expense - why should some freeloader get to just because he has a business, or expense account?

Furthermore, there are many hocky fans that are also environmentalists - true story. The two are not mutually exclusive.

If closing a tax loophole may threaten an important cultural object like the Sens - one that cannot make a go of it without these types of tax-breaks and a history of subsidy, then alternative ways to support the team can be devised by government to support the continuance of the franchise. Or the closing of this loophole can be defeated due to the need to subsidise the Sens via tax loopholes.

That's pragmatic. This partisan straw-man-smiting rant of yours is just misguided.


And here you have it folks, even amongst true "Sports fans" you get an ignoramace saying that this tax "freebie" should not exist... imagine what the non sports fans will do when they get wind of this!
Timic sorry I completely disagree and do not have the time to explain the faults in your argument
Business = Capitalism... dont like it move!
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0 #142 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 14:38
Quoting miguel:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
This is dumb but funny, just popped into my head as my secretary intern was bending over to file some papers away...

Lululehner.

Hahaha.


why is her name Lulu? :)
Nice Rush, wish I had your view... she may be bending over for a reason other than filing... Kiddin of course... no disrespect to the wise ladies on this forum ( ie Sandy )


Miguel! Even if you are not aware of the "brand" I'm sure you must be aware of the merchandise! Lululemon is a huge and fairly new phenomena, it started at least as YOGA apparel for women, but quickly became a hit amongst men when particularly fit ladies like to wear their second skin Lululemon yoga pants.

It's tough to find a photographic example that isn't at least a tad racy, even the mannequin shots seem.. err nevermind. Here is work safe / family safe example.

http://bit.ly/wXAt0m
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0 #143 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-01 14:40
BMKing - that made me laugh so hard, I almost choked on my Doritos! Lol. Classic.
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0 #144 miguel 2012-03-01 14:42
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting miguel:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
This is dumb but funny, just popped into my head as my secretary intern was bending over to file some papers away...

Lululehner.

Hahaha.


why is her name Lulu? :)
Nice Rush, wish I had your view... she may be bending over for a reason other than filing... Kiddin of course... no disrespect to the wise ladies on this forum ( ie Sandy )


Miguel! Even if you are not aware of the "brand" I'm sure you must be aware of the merchandise! Lululemon is a huge and fairly new phenomena, it started at least as YOGA apparel for women, but quickly became a hit amongst men when particularly fit ladies like to wear their second skin Lululemon yoga pants.

It's tough to find a photographic example that isn't at least a tad racy, even the mannequin shots seem.. err nevermind. Here is work safe / family safe example.

http://bit.ly/wXAt0m



Thanks Rush
Yes I am very well aware of Lululemon, it is the main reason I have a gym membership, but am still about 20 lbs overweight :)
Just thought I would make a little joke about her name being Lulu... and I to found that post hilarious!
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-3 #145 Timic 2012-03-01 14:45
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And here you have it folks, even amongst true "Sports fans" you get an ignoramace saying that this tax "freebie" should not exist... imagine what the non sports fans will do when they get wind of this!
Timic sorry I completely disagree and do not have the time to explain the faults in your argument
Business = Capitalism... dont like it move!

You really should try and explain the faults in my argument. Otherwise it remains obvious that you ara talking out of your ass. Busineses exist in all sorts of systems not just purely capitalist ones - which, in fact, have never existed anyway and especially not in Canada, and especially not in hockey. So this quaint little equation of yours really makes no sense. Canada is very far from a purely capitalis country. That, as I have explained, has a lot to do with hockey even existing as an item of cultural improtance here. Look at the history of hockey. It wasn't even notably popular in Canada before it began being broadcast nationally by the CBCs predecessors. Sorry to have to interject with historical fact. Do you have any?
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0 #146 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 14:47
It's too bad RL40 doesn't have any significant meaning, like 9MM or AK47. As you can tell, I'm trying to do anything besides talk about tax stuff. blah!!!
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+2 #147 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 14:48
@Timic That was an awful read, quadruply so on hockey forum.

I wish some independent auditor would just pick one average Canadian franchise, and do a study of every single "cost" to taxpayers from policing drunk driving right down to tax writeoffs and then compare it to the positive economic impact of job creation, spending and taxes gained by sales and income taxes. I'd bet even naysayers like you would be surprised by the results...

To top it off, across all of Ontario, even by the Liberal's accounts, the cost of these write offs are only, thats right only 15M per year. It doesn't take a genius to guess that the economic positives from tourism to jobs across all pro sports franchise across all of Ontario for an entire year would far exceed that.
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-1 #148 Smash_88 2012-03-01 14:50
Quoting miguel:


And here you have it folks, even amongst true "Sports fans" you get an ignoramace saying that this tax "freebie" should not exist... imagine what the non sports fans will do when they get wind of this!
Timic sorry I completely disagree and do not have the time to explain the faults in your argument
Business = Capitalism... dont like it move!


Not that i really agree with the other poster, but are you saying business is capitalism? Because I'm pretty sure you can have a business in a non capitalist society..
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+1 #149 SensCherub 2012-03-01 15:00
Quoting Timic:
Hey alfanard, you don't like one policy suggestion. This doesn't justify Cherry-esque "lefty" demonizing rants. Hockey wouldn't exist as it does in Canada if it hadn't and didn't continue to be funded heavily by government - by lefty tree-hugging pinkos. Would there be a team in Winnipeg without government funding? Nope. Quebec in the future? Nope. Edmonton? Nope. likely government funding was used to construct Scotiabank place. The lefty CBC was responsible for making hockey popular in Canada in the early days of the Leafs. There would never have been HNIC without government funding. Government programs fund municipal arenas and hockey programs all over the country. This is massively expensive. Much more expensive than some "interpretive dance" show.

Also, I don't get to write off my Sens tickets as an expense - why should some freeloader get to just because he has a business, or expense account?

Furthermore, there are many hocky fans that are also environmentalists - true story. The two are not mutually exclusive.

If closing a tax loophole may threaten an important cultural object like the Sens - one that cannot make a go of it without these types of tax-breaks and a history of subsidy, then alternative ways to support the team can be devised by government to support the continuance of the franchise. Or the closing of this loophole can be defeated due to the need to subsidise the Sens via tax loopholes.

That's pragmatic. This partisan straw-man-smiting rant of yours is just misguided.


That little beauty is the furthest thing from pragmatic. You know these "freeloaders" you refer to? They create jobs and opportunities. Forgive them if they try to further their business and subsequently create more jobs.

What an assinine statement...
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0 #150 alfanerd 2012-03-01 15:06
Quoting Timic:
Hey alfanard, you don't like one policy suggestion. This doesn't justify Cherry-esque "lefty" demonizing rants. Hockey wouldn't exist as it does in Canada if it hadn't and didn't continue to be funded heavily by government - by lefty tree-hugging pinkos. Would there be a team in Winnipeg without government funding? Nope. Quebec in the future? Nope. Edmonton? Nope. likely government funding was used to construct Scotiabank place. The lefty CBC was responsible for making hockey popular in Canada in the early day[...]he franchise. Or the closing of this loophole can be defeated due to the need to subsidise the Sens via tax loopholes.

That's pragmatic. This partisan straw-man-smiting rant of yours is just misguided.


I dont know what you're going on about with government subsidies of hockey. The point is that McGuinty is a retard who spent like a drunken sailor to buy votes, got the province into a huge fiscal mess, and is now trying to "fix" or "appear to fix" his mess by not allowing business to write-off legitimate expenses, and that could kill the Senators.

So because of Liberal incompetence, we may lose our hockey team. That's the pragmatic view.

If you cant see the obvious link between lefty policies of spending like drunken retards, and the current predicament Ontario finds itself in, I cant help you.

That McGuinty would consider reducing revenues by this move just to appear to be tackling the deficit shows the extent to which McGuinty is an incompetent dangerous retard.
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+1 #151 boom 2012-03-01 15:08
While I admit to being as mature as week old whiskey, I really wish we could get back to talking about hockey...
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+1 #152 Gatty 2012-03-01 15:09
McGuinty is completely inept and doesn't even deserve the press he's getting.

Also, Yost just went OFF on MC79Hockey. Crazy day..
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0 #153 Tookie 2012-03-01 15:10
Ok so top 3 so far would be:

Lehnghis Khan
Robin the Barbarian/Destroyer/Conqueror
Lex Lehner

Would you agree?

Keep em coming!
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0 #154 TrueSensFan 2012-03-01 15:14
Quoting alfanerd:
That McGuinty would consider reducing revenues by this move just to appear to be tackling the deficit shows the extent to which McGuinty is an incompetent dangerous retard.


In that one statement alone, you have managed to offend retards everywhere... just sayin lol

Anyways, we should really steer away from the politics. As enlightening as some of the views and tax laws may have been to some, most people who know a lot about politics and some that know very little are often very opinionated and passionate about their views and this can only lead to further arguments on this forum.

hell look how much arguing and name calling is caused by a simple W or L or disagreement on the skillset of a certain player and you will see this can only lead us down a dark road.

Just agree to disagree and let's move on back to hockey shall we?
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0 #155 alfanerd 2012-03-01 15:14
Quoting boom:
While I admit to being as mature as week old whiskey, I really wish we could get back to talking about hockey...


If you want to be able to talk about Ottawa Senators hockey in the future, you ought to be talking about McGuinty the incompetent retard instead.
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+3 #156 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 15:15
Thumbs up for moving this beleaguered political discussion into a separate topic. LOL.
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0 #157 TrueSensFan 2012-03-01 15:16
Quoting Tookie19:
Ok so top 3 so far would be:

Lehnghis Khan
Robin the Barbarian/Destroyer/Conqueror
Lex Lehner

Would you agree?

Keep em coming!


I like 1 and 3 but not big on #2
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0 #158 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 15:18
Quoting Gatty:

Also, Yost just went OFF on MC79Hockey. Crazy day..


Can you expand on this? Sounds interesting.
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+2 #159 Sandy 2012-03-01 15:18
Quoting SensCherub:
The Ottawa Lehnators season has been Lehnsane and I just know that we're going to win the Lehnley Cup. The fans of the Toronto Maplehners are probably upset that we're Robin them of the Lehnlight, but so what? They just need to Lehn back and enjoy the show.


Great post
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0 #160 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-01 15:20
Quoting TrueSensFan:
Quoting Tookie19:
Ok so top 3 so far would be:

Lehnghis Khan
Robin the Barbarian/Destroyer/Conqueror
Lex Lehner

Would you agree?

Keep em coming!


I like 1 and 3 but not big on #2


#1
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0 #161 miguel 2012-03-01 15:22
Quoting Timic:
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And here you have it folks, even amongst true "Sports fans" you get an ignoramace saying that this tax "freebie" should not exist... imagine what the non sports fans will do when they get wind of this!
Timic sorry I completely disagree and do not have the time to explain the faults in your argument
Business = Capitalism... dont like it move!

You really should try and explain the faults in my argument. Otherwise it remains obvious that you ara talking out of your ass. Busineses exist in all sorts of systems not just purely capitalist ones - which, in fact, have never existed anyway and especially not in Canada, and especially not in hockey. So this quaint little equation of yours really makes no sense. Canada is very far from a purely capitalis country. That, as I have explained, has a lot to do with hockey even existing as an item of cultural improtance here. Look at the history of hockey. It wasn't even notably popular in Canada before it began being broadcast nationally by the CBCs predecessors. Sorry to have to interject with historical fact. Do you have any?

Business thrives under a capitalistic gov't
your socialist view, is what Karl Marx build communism under
thought you might be able to bridge the two... sorry
take your polical crap over to 580 talk radio... your takes here are against the viability of a successful business, and key contributor to the economy of the greater Ottawa area...IMO of course
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0 #162 boom 2012-03-01 15:24
Quoting alfanerd:
Quoting boom:
While I admit to being as mature as week old whiskey, I really wish we could get back to talking about hockey...


If you want to be able to talk about Ottawa Senators hockey in the future, you ought to be talking about McGuinty the incompetent retard instead.

Ok, I'll get the ball rolling.

Seeing as the B'Sens are going to miss the playoffs, do you think the Senators will call up Hoffman or Petersson (or anyone else) to give them a look with Spezza?

Butler, to me, hasn't done a whole lot.

And by the way, (and to encourage hockey talk and the associated name-calling, as opposed to those aimed at Politicians) I was sure, at the beginning of the year, that Filatov and Butler would score 30-40 goals between them....
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0 #163 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 15:25
Quoting TrueSensFan:
Quoting Tookie19:
Ok so top 3 so far would be:

Lehnghis Khan
Robin the Barbarian/Destroyer/Conqueror
Lex Lehner

Would you agree?

Keep em coming!


I like 1 and 3 but not big on #2


Same here.
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0 #164 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-01 15:27
Please leave both religion and politics at the door.
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0 #165 miguel 2012-03-01 15:27
Quoting boom:
Quoting alfanerd:
Quoting boom:
While I admit to being as mature as week old whiskey, I really wish we could get back to talking about hockey...


If you want to be able to talk about Ottawa Senators hockey in the future, you ought to be talking about McGuinty the incompetent retard instead.

Ok, I'll get the ball rolling
Seeing as the B'Sens are going to miss the playoffs, so you think the Senators will call up Hoffman or Petersson (or anyone else) to geve them a look with Spezza?
Butler, to me, hasn't done a whole lot.
And by the way, (and to encourage hockey talk and the associated name-calling, as opposed to those aimed at Politicians) I was sure, at the beginning of the year, that Filatov and Butler would score 30-40 goals between them....


completely agree with you Boom
Butler despite his hard work, is not amounting to much...lets give another look to Peterson.
I too thought Butler and Filatov would be 40 plus scorers... wish I was not wrong on that
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0 #166 Sandy 2012-03-01 15:28
Quoting miguel:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
This is dumb but funny, just popped into my head as my secretary intern was bending over to file some papers away...

Lululehner.

Hahaha.


why is her name Lulu? :)
Nice Rush, wish I had your view... she may be bending over for a reason other than filing... Kiddin of course... no disrespect to the wise ladies on this forum ( ie Sandy )


I actually laughed when I read it...
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0 #167 Sandy 2012-03-01 15:31
Quoting taxman:
1. If this is an amendment to federal tax legislation, forget it. The Cons' main supporters are business owners. I don't think they're going to do something to tick off their base.
2. If it's just provincial, then we're talking about an Ontario rate of 11.5%. The deduction is only 50%, so effectively, on a $100 ticket, this results in an extra $6.50 of tax. Yes, that's a 6% increase, but not unbearable by any means. If it's federal and provincial, you're looking at a 13% increase. That could be significant I guess.

The real risk is business people not understanding the impact on their bottom line. Even if the impact isn't actually big, it could be bad if they "think" it's big.

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around why this is so much worse for the Sens than for the other teams. Maybe our corporate prices are higher, and therefore, an increase in the cost would hurt us more?
Either way though, I can't see the true business people refusing to buy tickets simply because they don't get a write-off. Some people might, but you've gotta think the impact on client relatinoships is a sufficient incentive to keep going to games, and keep buying corporate suites.



If it is indeed a Federal change.. Won't it also affect the Jets, Oiler & the return of the Nordiques... All are small market teams.

There is a story on TSN with the Liberals downplaying it... yeah right..
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0 #168 Dr Demento 2012-03-01 15:33
If Anderson was from Sweden he would be "The Swedish Chef"

Ottawa's goalie tandem could be the dynamic duo, we just need to get Bishop or Anderson to change their first name to Bruce. Or find a goalie from Australia (they are all named Bruce (obscure python reference alert))
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0 #169 SensChirp 2012-03-01 15:34
Haha we need a hockey game. Bad!
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0 #170 SensChirp 2012-03-01 15:35
So has anyone signed up for the event? Don't wanna be all alone on that bus.
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0 #171 Dr Demento 2012-03-01 15:36
The boy wonder hails from Gothamburg. Come on people, work with me here.
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0 #172 moneymike 2012-03-01 15:39
Hey Chirp,

I'm new to the city and would like to join you guys. Do you know what time the bus will be leaving? I work until six tomorrow. (apologize if you have mentioned this...) Thanks
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0 #173 miguel 2012-03-01 15:40
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting taxman:
1. If this is an amendment to federal tax legislation, forget it. The Cons' main supporters are business owners. I don't think they're going to do something to tick off their base.
2. If it's just provincial, then we're talking about an Ontario rate of 11.5%. The deduction is only 50%, so effectively, on a $100 ticket, this results in an extra $6.50 of tax. Yes, that's a 6% increase, but not unbearable by any means. If it's federal and provincial, you're looking at a 13% increase. That could be significant I guess.

The real risk is business people not understanding the impact on their bottom line. Even if the impact isn't actually big, it could be bad if they "think" it's big.

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around why this is so much worse for the Sens than for the other teams. Maybe our corporate prices are higher, and therefore, an increase in the cost would hurt us more?
Either way though, I can't see the true business people refusing to buy tickets simply because they don't get a write-off. Some people might, but you've gotta think the impact on client relatinoships is a sufficient incentive to keep going to games, and keep buying corporate suites.



If it is indeed a Federal change.. Won't it also affect the Jets, Oiler & the return of the Nordiques... All are small market teams.

There is a story on TSN with the Liberals downplaying it... yeah right..


Sandy they need the feds to change the laws, then the province can do as they wish... McGuinty is the only idiot, as the other Provincial leaders are not so stupid to consider it. So Ontario, and specifically Ottawa stands the most to lose, and could force Melnyk to make changes
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0 #174 TrueSensFan 2012-03-01 15:41
Quoting SensChirp:
So has anyone signed up for the event? Don't wanna be all alone on that bus.


Wish I could go Chirp but having an awfully hard time finding a sitter for Fri. for some reason
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0 #175 boom 2012-03-01 15:42
Quoting miguel:
Quoting boom:
Quoting alfanerd:
Quoting boom:
While I admit to being as mature as week old whiskey, I really wish we could get back to talking about hockey...


If you want to be able to talk about Ottawa Senators hockey in the future, you ought to be talking about McGuinty the incompetent retard instead.

Ok, I'll get the ball rolling
Seeing as the B'Sens are going to miss the playoffs, so you think the Senators will call up Hoffman or Petersson (or anyone else) to geve them a look with Spezza?
Butler, to me, hasn't done a whole lot.
And by the way, (and to encourage hockey talk and the associated name-calling, as opposed to those aimed at Politicians) I was sure, at the beginning of the year, that Filatov and Butler would score 30-40 goals between them....


completely agree with you Boom
Butler despite his hard work, is not amounting to much...lets give another look to Peterson.
I too thought Butler and Filatov would be 40 plus scorers... wish I was not wrong on that

Now I'm not even sure if either of them will be at camp next year..
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0 #176 SensCherub 2012-03-01 15:43
Quoting SensChirp:
So has anyone signed up for the event? Don't wanna be all alone on that bus.


I would, but (conincidentall y) I have to meet some people for business and hit their box.

Tell Dean I say hi.
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0 #177 miguel 2012-03-01 15:44
Quoting SensChirp:
So has anyone signed up for the event? Don't wanna be all alone on that bus.


would like to join you, but may be a last minute thing.
I do realize that it may be sold out by then, but have no choice.

thanks Chirp for holding this
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+2 #178 SensChirp 2012-03-01 15:44
Quoting moneymike:
Hey Chirp,

I'm new to the city and would like to join you guys. Do you know what time the bus will be leaving? I work until six tomorrow. (apologize if you have mentioned this...) Thanks

Unfortunately the bus will likely roll out around 5:45. Puck drop is at 7 tomorrow so there isn't a ton of time. Maybe duck out of work a couple hours early? Tell them SensChirp said it was ok.
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0 #179 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 15:46
Quoting Sandy:
I actually laughed when I read it...


It's nice to have at least one chick here, wish we had even more. I always enjoy your contributions to the conversation and thanks to you I sometimes remember to tone down my comments as to not cross the line and sound like some sort of chauvinist pig. It's all in good fun.

P.S. Do you own Lululemon pants?

Haha, just kidding!

RUSHRLZ
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+1 #180 Dr Demento 2012-03-01 15:47
Butler's nicknmae should be Alfred
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+1 #181 miguel 2012-03-01 15:50
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting Sandy:
I actually laughed when I read it...


It's nice to have at least one chick here, wish we had even more. I always enjoy your contributions to the conversation and thanks to you I sometimes remember to tone down my comments as to not cross the line and sound like some sort of chauvinist pig. It's all in good fun.

P.S. Do you own Lululemon pants?

Haha, just kidding!

RUSHRLZ


Are you kidding? :)
You are one funny man RUSH!
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+1 #182 Spanishflea12 2012-03-01 15:52
Hey Chirp,

for those of us in Toronto, is there anything we can do to get involved in this political shitshow that might go down? I dont want the loyal Sens fans in Toronto to just sit on our hands and hope for the best.

Also, any chance that we could get a Senschirp Contest in Toronto sometime in the summer? :)
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0 #183 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 15:53
Quoting Dr Demento:
The boy wonder hails from Gothamburg. Come on people, work with me here.


Tookie already tried "Gothenburg Strangler" then I believe he ducked out for a psychiatrist appt.

What about:

THE GOLIATH OF GOTHENBURG

or

Gothenburg Goliath
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+1 #184 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-01 15:55
Hey Chirp - I'll be with you guys in spirit & watching the game at Real Sports in Toronto. If you haven't watched a game there, I assure you it's something special!
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+3 #185 Andrews Theory 2012-03-01 16:00
WOW, just saw this tax thing now... as a person that buys tickets for a corporation and writes them off and also a devout fan of the team, this is infuriating.

what a ridiculous statement to suggest that they are losing 15 million annually. if those corporations stop spending money, how much is 50% of 0?

so stupid...answer to the defecit in Canada is simple. legalize marijuana and tax it. problem solved with the added benefit of a decrease in crime.
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0 #186 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:00
So Onrait and O'Toole record SportsCenter for 2am, which is then looped throughout the night and into the morning, at which point most of us people with normal jobs wake up and watch it.

Does anyone recall the schedule or what mornings Jay and Dan are not on?

I'd like to overlay this with the Sens schedule and figure out the best time to reach out to Jay and have him name drop our new Lehner monicker onto the world after a glorious victory led by him.

So far seems like Lehngis Khan is very popular, but if we decide on something even better over the course of the next couple days we'll go with that!
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0 #187 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:02
Quoting Sens Saint:
Hey Chirp - I'll be with you guys in spirit & watching the game at Real Sports in Toronto. If you haven't watched a game there, I assure you it's something special!


Is that a great dig for Sens games? My siblings in Toronto are big Habs fans so I've been to Kilgour's to watch games a couple of times and always wondered if there was a secret Sens hangout hidden somewhere...
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0 #188 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:04
Speaking of athlete nicknames... I can't stand basketball in the slightest, but apparently Kobe has latched onto the name "Masked Mamba" because of that stupid headgear he's been wearing.
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0 #189 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:24
What a weird interview with Anderson regarding his injury, not talking at all about what in particular happened or what the injury is, and describing part of the healing process as dealing with the pain.

I was under the impression that the most significant part of his injury was tendon damage in his pinky and yeah a pretty bad cut, but for the most part that is "just" stitches and letting the injury heal (tendon to regain strength). I had the extensor tendon in my thumb initially damaged by a bad cut and then it snapped in half entirely. It was a pain in the ass to heal, but anything but "painful" once they did the fixup job on it.

Anyways just a weird demeanor in his interview.
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+1 #190 Daybreak Maidenhead 2012-03-01 16:26
Quoting Mike Bauer:
As a business owner myself, Mike Bauer can confidently say that they would find a way to survive, but would need more creative ways to get around things. Better accounting, and they likely don't want to do this because whatever they are doing now works.

That said, Mike Bauer doesn't think this tax bill will pass. I'd put it at less than 10% chance, and Mike Bauer likes those odds.




FREEBIRD !
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0 #191 Tookie 2012-03-01 16:28
The Goliath of Gothenburg is kinda cool, I like Lehnghis Khan just for the sound of it but what does it have in common with Lehner?

Lehner doesnt loot and pillage villages nor does he kill men, women & children...
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+1 #192 Accountantx 2012-03-01 16:32
I just wanted to clear something up for all you senschirp readers:

Meals and entertainment are deductible for corporations according to the income tax act. Hovever, section 67(1) of the act states: "an amount paid or payable in respect of the human consumption of food or beverages or the enjoyment of entertainment is deemed to be 50%..."

This rule was brought in because the CRA assumes that 50% of these meals and entertainment expenses are personal in nature (for the business owner) and personal expenses are not tax deductible for businesses.

There is no "tax break" on meals and entertainment - it's actually the opposite, the business is forced to include 50% of the otherwise deductible expense in taxable income and pay tax on that.

Is it fair that a business can deduct meals and entertainment expenses at all? I guess that's a question of your point of view. Lots of studies and case law support the view that entertaining clients results in increased business for the owner.

Is it fair that a business owner who takes 10 clients to a hockey game is forced to include 5 of those tickets as a personal expense?
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0 #193 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:36
Quoting Tookie19:
The Goliath of Gothenburg is kinda cool, I like Lehnghis Khan just for the sound of it but what does it have in common with Lehner?

Lehner doesnt loot and pillage villages nor does he kill men, women & children...


Amongst the *cough* finer characteristics of Ghengis were his warrior spirit, fantastic tactical prowess in battle, his insatiable appetite for victory and conquest and his ability to instill fear in his opponents, no matter how formidable they might be.

It's tough, catchy and not 100% politically correct I suppose, maybe an enamoring quality given how stodgily "PC" Ottawa can be.
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+1 #194 boom 2012-03-01 16:36
I admit to, temporarily, jumping on the "let's give Robin Lehner a nickname" effort, but, does it not strike anyone else as being very Leaf-Fan like - giving a goalie a nickname because he won 2 games for us?
I'm not trying to be critcal, it just seems to invite bad karma. The Monster, for instance...
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0 #195 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:42
Quoting Accountantx:

Is it fair that a business owner who takes 10 clients to a hockey game is forced to include 5 of those tickets as a personal expense?


On a broad scale I would say it helps to curb abuse, the government splitting business-boosti ng entertainment expenses with the company/owner. And to clarify I don't think you meant to say "personal expense" rather "corporate expense" in most cases.
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0 #196 Floridasensfan 2012-03-01 16:43
The Lenanator crushes the Leafs hope again.

Chef Anderson (have to admit he deserves that title)
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+1 #197 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-01 16:45
Hey Rush,
RealSports is a great place to catch Sens games on their MASSIVE screen, as long as the Leafs aren't playing. When the Sens score, they also sound the horn. There isn't a place for Sens fans like Kilgor's though....

Shoeless Joes on King West is also always happy to put the game on as well.
There are alot of Leaf fans starting to cheer for the Black and Red.

They're tired of being ... "Play-Off Free, since 2000 and three"tm
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0 #198 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:48
Quoting boom:
I admit to, temporarily, jumping on the "let's give Robin Lehner a nickname" effort, but, does it not strike anyone else as being very Leaf-Fan like - giving a goalie a nickname because he won 2 games for us?
I'm not trying to be critcal, it just seems to invite bad karma. The Monster, for instance...


It's all in good fun and god knows sports fans around the world have come up with nicknames for their players for decades, I sure wouldn't associate it with being Leaf-like that's for sure.

But yeah this was all derived from the "Lehnsanity is stupid because it isn't an original though" argument. I said earlier too maybe we just need to wait and if Robin is destined to have an awesome monicker or even become an awesome player for that matter, it will come to us naturally, maybe next week, maybe in three years.

All in good fun though, if us jar heads here come up with something chuckle-worthy and Onrait on TSN or Kurt on our stupid Ottawa morning show drop it even ONCE for our amusement, I'd say it had all been worth it, on what otherwise is a deadly quiet non-game-day riddled with sociopolitical arguments otherwise.

:)
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0 #199 Andrews Theory 2012-03-01 16:51
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting Accountantx:

Is it fair that a business owner who takes 10 clients to a hockey game is forced to include 5 of those tickets as a personal expense?


On a broad scale I would say it helps to curb abuse, the government splitting business-boosting entertainment expenses with the company/owner. And to clarify I don't think you meant to say "personal expense" rather "corporate expense" in most cases.


let me put this simply...if businesses are "encouraged" to significantly cut back on expenses due to the tax implications (for games, meals or whatever else) the overall economy will suffer. this will have the reverse affect of what was initially intended.
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0 #200 Accountantx 2012-03-01 16:52
Quoting RUSHRLZ:

On a broad scale I would say it helps to curb abuse, the government splitting business-boosting entertainment expenses with the company/owner. And to clarify I don't think you meant to say "personal expense" rather "corporate expense" in most cases.


Agreed, its probably the best middle ground that we can find. I was just trying to point out that no matter what the rule is there will be winners and loosers.

In theory because the 50% addback is meant to eliminate the personal portion of meals and entertainment from corporate expenses I stand by what I said earlier. In the case of the business owner who takes 9 clients to a game - 5 of those tickers are added back to corporate income as they represent the "personal" portion under the rules.
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+1 #201 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:53
Quoting Sens Saint:
Hey Rush,
RealSports is a great place to catch Sens games on their MASSIVE screen, as long as the Leafs aren't playing. When the Sens score, they also sound the horn. There isn't a place for Sens fans like Kilgor's though....

Shoeless Joes on King West is also always happy to put the game on as well.
There are alot of Leaf fans starting to cheer for the Black and Red.

They're tired of being ... "Play-Off Free, since 2000 and three"tm


Sounds cool,I hope to catch a game there one day thanks for the follow-up!

And good on you being a Sens fan in Toronto, that can be a tough gig I imagine! Back during the nastier "Battle of Ontario" days I drove up there for a wedding and was rocking the Senators window flag on my Jeep... I had some guys in a cargo van "playfully" swerving to try and run me off the 401, not to mention some hicks in a truck tailing me and making the "I'm shooting a gun at you" gesture. Hahaha.

F**k I hate Leafs fans and their misery is an Elixir of Upliftment. I take almost as much joy in their demise than in our own success. It goes without saying that I am a very happy camper this week.
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0 #202 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 16:57
Quoting Andrews Theory:

let me put this simply...if businesses are "encouraged" to significantly cut back on expenses due to the tax implications (for games, meals or whatever else) the overall economy will suffer. this will have the reverse affect of what was initially intended.

If you didn't notice in all of my other posts I am vehemently against this elimination of sporting events deduction. I was only honestly answering the question about a 50-50 split for entertainment stuff and as I said I am fine with it the way it stands today.

*thumbs up icon*
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+1 #203 boom 2012-03-01 17:07
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting Sens Saint:
Hey Rush,
RealSports is a great place to catch Sens games on their MASSIVE screen, as long as the Leafs aren't playing. When the Sens score, they also sound the horn. There isn't a place for Sens fans like Kilgor's though....

Shoeless Joes on King West is also always happy to put the game on as well.
There are alot of Leaf fans starting to cheer for the Black and Red.

They're tired of being ... "Play-Off Free, since 2000 and three"tm


Sounds cool,I hope to catch a game there one day thanks for the follow-up!

And good on you being a Sens fan in Toronto, that can be a tough gig I imagine! Back during the nastier "Battle of Ontario" days I drove up there for a wedding and was rocking the Senators window flag on my Jeep... I had some guys in a cargo van "playfully" swerving to try and run me off the 401, not to mention some hicks in a truck tailing me and making the "I'm shooting a gun at you" gesture. Hahaha.

F**k I hate Leafs fans and their misery is an Elixir of Upliftment. I take almost as much joy in their demise than in our own success. It goes without saying that I am a very happy camper this week.

Agreed. I grew up hating Hab Fans, mainly because of their arrogance, but Leaf Fans are just as arrogant, but with no basis for it, other than stupidity. This latest collapse by the Leafs never ceases to make me smile.
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0 #204 McLovin 2012-03-01 17:08
I like ;) ...the symbol as pointed out by chirp
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+1 #205 Sandy 2012-03-01 17:21
Quoting Spanishflea12:
Hey Chirp,

for those of us in Toronto, is there anything we can do to get involved in this political shitshow that might go down? I dont want the loyal Sens fans in Toronto to just sit on our hands and hope for the best.

Also, any chance that we could get a Senschirp Contest in Toronto sometime in the summer? :)



Interesting article in the Ottawa Sun regarding this. Leeder say the Sens generate north of $150M into the economy.
They pay 30M in tax alone on just their payroll.. and that doesn't include property taxes or tax on ticket sales.
They have already been receiving calls from Corporate seat holders to see if they can get out of their contract if this becomes law.

For the government to save 15M to close this 'loophole' probably covering all sports teams in the province... they risk losing north of 30M in taxes for the province and a lot more for the City if the Sens leave for the US.

Leeder also said it just does not apply to Ontario.. if the law was changed it affects every sporting franchise in Canada.

Did Mr. Duncan actually study anything.. or did he just talk to MLSE?

Leeder also said the governments are losing out of millions of tax dollars by not taxing the online ticket scalper sites. He said they generate millions upon millions of dollars annually and they pay no tax... Now tell me that makes any sense.

It really makes you wonder what idiotic buffoons are running this province. It's downright scary...
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0 #206 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 17:36
^----- exactly Sandy I agree 100%. Not only is this notion a slap in the face to many teams including the Senators, but it is not based on any big picture economic analysis, as a matter of fact it thanklessly dismisses all of the BENEFITS to Ottawa/Ontario/ Canada that a franchise like ours brings.

That is why I also called out 15 million as "chump change", for the Sens alone never mind all pro-sports franchises Ontario-wide. 150M alone from the Senators in tax contributions and economic benefits...
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0 #207 Andrews Theory 2012-03-01 17:54
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting Andrews Theory:

let me put this simply...if businesses are "encouraged" to significantly cut back on expenses due to the tax implications (for games, meals or whatever else) the overall economy will suffer. this will have the reverse affect of what was initially intended.

If you didn't notice in all of my other posts I am vehemently against this elimination of sporting events deduction. I was only honestly answering the question about a 50-50 split for entertainment stuff and as I said I am fine with it the way it stands today.

*thumbs up icon*


tuned in late today so did not catch all of your other posts...

The goverment has made it increasingly more difficult to conduct business in this Country, province and more specifically city...

couple that with being one of the highest taxed countries on the planet, it's just mind boggling
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0 #208 Hook 2012-03-01 18:04
Not so much a nick-name but would be good for a poster or sign while at the rink::

Who needs Batman when we've got Robin!!!

I'll give credit where credit is due...saw the sign fat a home game for my other passion...Arsen al Football Club (Robin VanPersie is the player in question)

Ps...typing on the blackberry web browser sucks nuts :(
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0 #209 Hook 2012-03-01 18:04
Not so much a nick-name but would be good for a poster or sign while at the rink::

Who needs Batman when we've got Robin!!!

I'll give credit where credit is due...saw the sign fat a home game for my other passion...Arsen al Football Club (Robin VanPersie is the player in question)

Ps...typing on the blackberry web browser sucks nuts :(
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+1 #210 conservativeHippie 2012-03-01 18:18
This tax thing has got my blood boiling. Read the citizen article and there is some mention about how removing deductions would be a good thing for Toronto fans as they would not have to compete with business writeoffs for seats.

Here I am sitting on a rooftop pool patio in Miami wondering why in hell do I live in Canada and then I see this. Not only are my taxes WAY hither than they are in the states, the weather absolutely sucks (literally a 30 degree difference last night), and now it looks like I might lose the sens after losing the expos.

I swear to god...if mcguinty pushes this through, I am done with Ottawa, Ontario and Canada.

PS: wtf is this "SENSCHIRP READER" stuff? Was there a new filter put in place, or is this the new insult ? May I suggest if you want to call someone an asshole that you simply call them MikeBauer?
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0 #211 CarloswSPECR1 2012-03-01 18:23
I got my Tickets! I hope to see everyone tomorrow!
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0 #212 conservativeHippie 2012-03-01 18:24
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
^----- exactly Sandy I agree 100%. Not only is this notion a slap in the face to many teams including the Senators, but it is not based on any big picture economic analysis, as a matter of fact it thanklessly dismisses all of the BENEFITS to Ottawa/Ontario/Canada that a franchise like ours brings.

That is why I also called out 15 million as "chump change", for the Sens alone never mind all pro-sports franchises Ontario-wide. 150M alone from the Senators in tax contributions and economic benefits...


This is coming from the same party that gave a cricket field half a million more than they asked for and a whole bunch of immigrant community shelters millions..

Vote buyers, plain and simple. They disgust me.

For those thinking this doesn't have any legs...wait and see the spin.
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0 #213 willie_008 2012-03-01 18:25
I vote for "The Boy Wonder"
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0 #214 conservativeHippie 2012-03-01 18:34
Just had a thought...where is that Johnny guy that was a regular around here? Chirp?
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0 #215 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 18:42
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
^----- exactly Sandy I agree 100%. Not only is this notion a slap in the face to many teams including the Senators, but it is not based on any big picture economic analysis, as a matter of fact it thanklessly dismisses all of the BENEFITS to Ottawa/Ontario/Canada that a franchise like ours brings.

That is why I also called out 15 million as "chump change", for the Sens alone never mind all pro-sports franchises Ontario-wide. 150M alone from the Senators in tax contributions and economic benefits...


This is coming from the same party that gave a cricket field half a million more than they asked for and a whole bunch of immigrant community shelters millions..

Vote buyers, plain and simple. They disgust me.

For those thinking this doesn't have any legs...wait and see the spin.


I don't see this as "hockey" or "Sens" versus all the sports and arts and culture, everyone is in the same boat frankly. A lot of new Canadian's play cricket, they deserve a chance to prosper with breaks and funding, just like hockey does.
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0 #216 SensChirp 2012-03-01 18:58
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Just had a thought...where is that Johnny guy that was a regular around here? Chirp?

Johnny? Not sure I recall that poster. Although they all tend to blend together when you read every single comment :)

And the SensChirp reader thing was a filter I put in for some if the generic insults that people were overusing. Wanna insult someone? Better get creative :)
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0 #217 conservativeHippie 2012-03-01 19:07
Hey chirp...

I think his name was "johne ". He was from Dallas and he had some kind of physical ailment...somet hing to do with surgery on his head...we are going way back...like blogspot way back, but pretty sure he made the migration over here and was pretty active as recently as last year.

He was a loyal poster around here...dunno why he came to mind.
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0 #218 SensChirp 2012-03-01 19:11
Just 4 packages left for the game tomorrow. Now or never folks!
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0 #219 SensChirp 2012-03-01 19:12
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Hey chirp...

I think his name was "johne ". He was from Dallas and he had some kind of physical ailment...something to do with surgery on his head...we are going way back...like blogspot way back, but pretty sure he made the migration over here and was pretty active as recently as last year.

He was a loyal poster around here...dunno why he came to mind.

Still chimes in sometimes.

Johne! Johne! Are you there??
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0 #220 Timic 2012-03-01 19:18
Business thrives under a capitalistic gov't
your socialist view, is what Karl Marx build communism under
thought you might be able to bridge the two... sorry
take your polical crap over to 580 talk radio... your takes here are against the viability of a successful business, and key contributor to the economy of the greater Ottawa area...IMO of course


First of all Karl Marx wrote a couple books and never built anything. Second there has never been a communist economy - there have been socialist ones. If you actually want a "capitalist economy" you don't get small market NHL teams because they all, including the Senators, have relied on government funding in getting established. Historically, business has thrived mostly under "market socialism" as it existed in the "golden age" from the 1950s to the 1970s. Economic growth rates in all Westen countries were higher in such an environment. Finally, if you really, really want an environment in which business will thrive - you'd have to pick a capitalist dictatorship. Those systems statistically have the highest economic growth. But I'll assume you don't want that?

It makes sense to stop these loopholes in the case of Toronto, but not in the case of small market teams like Ottawa. As I stated originally. It's not a capitalist/comm unist/socialist thing and I don't know why people keep turning it into that. Small market teams are already hybrid public-private mixed enterprises. They should continue to be supported by government in that way in my opinion. since it is the only way they are viable. They are already not "capitalist". If they were, they would not exist.
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0 #221 Scally 2012-03-01 19:42
Quoting SensChirp:
Just 4 packages left for the game tomorrow. Now or never folks!


Bahh so much for me heading down... they're not selling single tickets :(
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0 #222 SensChirp 2012-03-01 19:45
Quoting Scally:
Quoting SensChirp:
Just 4 packages left for the game tomorrow. Now or never folks!


Bahh so much for me heading down... they're not selling single tickets :(

Was not aware of that. Part of the challenge in running this with Locals is they do these events anyway on Fridays and have their own way of doing things.

Sorry about that!
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0 #223 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 19:50
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Hey chirp...

I think his name was "johne ". He was from Dallas and he had some kind of physical ailment...something to do with surgery on his head...we are going way back...like blogspot way back, but pretty sure he made the migration over here and was pretty active as recently as last year.

He was a loyal poster around here...dunno why he came to mind.

Still chimes in sometimes.

Johne! Johne! Are you there??


Yeah, Johne! Where has he been the past week+ I miss the guy?!
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0 #224 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 19:52
Quoting SensChirp:

And the SensChirp reader thing was a filter I put in for some if the generic insults that people were overusing. Wanna insult someone? Better get creative :)


I'll give this a go.

SensChirp. It has become apparent that you occasionally "play with your own droppings", sometimes utilizing them to create "wall art". Also you own a Doug Gilmour pillowcase!

Did that sneak through?
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0 #225 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2012-03-01 19:55
Andy's resumed skating!!

The injury has kind of been a double edged sword. On one hand, our starting goaltending has been hurt, but on the other, it was probably the best thing that could ever have happened for Robin Lehner.

Ill timing to have a guy like Andy goin out, but the emergence of Robin Lehner has been astounding.
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+3 #226 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-01 19:58
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Andy's resumed skating!!

The injury has kind of been a double edged sword. On one hand, our starting goaltending has been hurt, but on the other, it was probably the best thing that could ever have happened for Robin Lehner.

Ill timing to have a guy like Andy goin out, but the emergence of Robin Lehner has been astounding.


It took waaaaay too long through the admittedly edited interview I saw on TSN for Anderson to give Lehner a shout out for holding down the fort so well, but indeed he did it.

The guy has been lights out for us this year and a key component to a playoff march, glad he's healing well for sure!
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+2 #227 MoeDozer 2012-03-01 20:03
article about karlsson and possible norris. and they had don cherry comment on this, and yes as usual cherry doesnt love the sens, says karlsson has to improve defencivly first. how hard is it for people to understand karlsson has the most takeaways by a Dman with 53 next closest is streit with 43. yes i know karlsson is 4th in giveaways for Dmen, but so what? names like doughty chara boyle are also in the top 20.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/ottawa-senators-defenseman-erik-karlsson-norris-trophy-favorite-162445645.html;_ylt=AqDs7kj4ZynQFDhdfvXGmncJfwM6
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+2 #228 SensChirp 2012-03-01 20:25
The injury wasn't leg related. The fact that Anderson is on skates really doesn't say much about how the injury is progressing. Still no time frame for a return.
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+3 #229 SensChirp 2012-03-01 20:26
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensChirp:

And the SensChirp reader thing was a filter I put in for some if the generic insults that people were overusing. Wanna insult someone? Better get creative :)


I'll give this a go.

SensChirp. It has become apparent that you occasionally "play with your own droppings", sometimes utilizing them to create "wall art". Also you own a Doug Gilmour pillowcase!

Did that sneak through?

Completely uncalled for :)
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0 #230 MoeDozer 2012-03-01 20:44
wow i was just looking at old stats. in 09-10 after 65 games the senators had 76 points and ended up with . looks like things havent changed too much as we are again at 76 points after 65 games.
that season we also ended up in 5th spot, lets do it again and rematch the penguins, would be one hell of a series.
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0 #231 SNOOPY SENIOR 2012-03-01 21:17
Quoting MoeDozer:
wow i was just looking at old stats. in 09-10 after 65 games the senators had 76 points and ended up with . looks like things havent changed too much as we are again at 76 points after 65 games.
that season we also ended up in 5th spot, lets do it again and rematch the penguins, would be one hell of a series.


Amazing that the numbers are identical ???

Hope that this year we finish in 4th, and Pens finish 5th.

We have home ice advantage , and take the First Round in 6 games !!

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!
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0 #232 conor smythe 2012-03-01 21:30
this tax thing will never happen if it means the Sens might fold

Ottawa citizen: Duncan say they are leaning toward scrapping the subsidy, which costs the government $15 million annually

Ottawa Sun: “In terms of tax revenue, we have a payroll of about $60 million — about half of that goes to taxes every year.”

If Ottawa folds it will cost the government twice as much in lost tax revenues than the subsidy.

And thats JUST player payroll.


I see this being a non issue in 2 weeks time.. specially when Eugene gets a hold of that little brat mcguinty
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-2 #233 Andrews Theory 2012-03-01 21:34
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Hey chirp...

I think his name was "johne ". He was from Dallas and he had some kind of physical ailment...something to do with surgery on his head...we are going way back...like blogspot way back, but pretty sure he made the migration over here and was pretty active as recently as last year.

He was a loyal poster around here...dunno why he came to mind.

Still chimes in sometimes.

Johne! Johne! Are you there??


Yeah, Johne! Where has he been the past week+ I miss the guy?!


Johne's done this before. he'll be back...

On another note, Maybe Andersons wife assaulted him lol...

Someone mentioned the Andy interview above, I could definitely see him not being a huge Lehner fan at this point and his attitude at this point. Hopefully spending some time with the big team will help to humble himself by following the lead of our vets.
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0 #234 Sandy 2012-03-01 21:49
Quoting conor smythe:
this tax thing will never happen if it means the Sens might fold

Ottawa citizen: Duncan say they are leaning toward scrapping the subsidy, which costs the government $15 million annually

Ottawa Sun: “In terms of tax revenue, we have a payroll of about $60 million — about half of that goes to taxes every year.”

If Ottawa folds it will cost the government twice as much in lost tax revenues than the subsidy.

And thats JUST player payroll.


I see this being a non issue in 2 weeks time.. specially when Eugene gets a hold of that little brat mcguinty


Who said the government has any sense. They did not even think this through... and we wonder why the Province is in such a mess.
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-1 #235 Mike Bauer 2012-03-01 21:52
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
What a weird interview with Anderson regarding his injury, not talking at all about what in particular happened or what the injury is, and describing part of the healing process as dealing with the pain.

I was under the impression that the most significant part of his injury was tendon damage in his pinky and yeah a pretty bad cut, but for the most part that is "just" stitches and letting the injury heal (tendon to regain strength). I had the extensor tendon in my thumb initially damaged by a bad cut and then it snapped in half entirely. It was a pain in the ass to heal, but anything but "painful" once they did the fixup job on it.

Anyways just a weird demeanor in his interview.


Honestly, mike Bauer has trouble believing a guy who is right handed, cut his right pinky. Something else happened, mike Bauer can guarantee that. We will never know though. Nobody who is right handed prepares meals with there other hand.
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0 #236 Mark 2012-03-01 22:43
Jets sending a message to the Panthers - BIGTIME! 6 - 0
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0 #237 Mark 2012-03-01 22:51
Quoting Mike Bauer:
Honestly, mike Bauer has trouble believing a guy who is right handed, cut his right pinky. Something else happened, mike Bauer can guarantee that. We will never know though. Nobody who is right handed prepares meals with there other hand.

Quoting Mike Bauer:
[Honestly, mike Bauer has trouble believing a guy who is right handed, cut his right pinky. Something else happened, mike Bauer can guarantee that. We will never know though. Nobody who is right handed prepares meals with there other hand.[/quotQuoting Mike Bauer:
[quote name="RUSHRLZ"]What a weird interview with Anderson regarding his injury, not talking at all about what in particular happened or what the injury is, and describing part of the healing process as dealing with the pain.

I was under the impression that the most significant part of his injury was tendon damage in his pinky and yeah a pretty bad cut, but for the most part that is "just" stitches and letting the injury heal (tendon to regain strength). I had the extensor tendon in my thumb initially damaged by a bad cut and then it snapped in half entirely. It was a pain in the ass to heal, but anything but "painful" once they did the fixup job on it.

Anyways just a weird demeanor in his interview.


Honestly, mike Bauer has trouble believing a guy who is right handed, cut his right pinky. Something else happened, mike Bauer can guarantee that. We will never know though. Nobody who is right handed prepares meals with there other hand.


I mentioned that last week when it happened and "Hax" accused me of being a conspiracy theorist - righties don't cut their right hands - period - end of story.
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0 #238 Mat 2012-03-01 23:07
What I don't get from cutting the subsidy on entertainment is that the government is seeing this ass backwards.

Why penalize your own constituent??

Why wouldn't they propose to do what they do in many states which is implement a "Jock Tax", which is essentially a state tax levied on individuals (usually athletes and artists) who come work temporarily in the State.

"This so called “jock tax” is an income tax levied against visitors to a city or state who earn money in that jurisdiction. Since states cannot typically afford to track the thousands of individuals who do business on an ongoing basis, the ones targeted are typically the very wealthy and the very high profile, namely professional athletes. Not only are the working schedules of professional athletes public, so are their salaries. The state can compute and collect the amount with very little investment of time and effort."

http://heathoops.com/2010/06/the-taxing-impact-of-state-taxes/

This type of levy has been used in the past by states to finance new stadiums and arenas. It certainly wouldn't bring in the revenues that you would save by cutting the entertainment subsidies, but who can really know how much these subsidised business meetings truly bring in in terms of future business?

Ok, and it sucks for athletes and artists but hey, we're not the ones making millions... Perhaps the NHLPA could get the NHL owners to cover these costs for their "employees" They sure as shit make waaaaay more than the players...
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+1 #239 Sandy 2012-03-01 23:24
The government doesn't believe Cyril Leeder.. They don't believe any real damage can be done to the team by scrubbing this tax exemption.

They said the Sens benefited from the high Cdn dollar.

But then again.. what does a government know about running a sports team... they can barely run a government.

Apparently there is a report (haven't seen it) in the Toronto Star that said it affects all major and minor sports teams, orchestras, theatres -- etc.. and it could be the 'death' of minor sports... all to save $15M which is a drop in the bucket based on the deficit.. and a lot less than what they will lose if the Sens leave.

Since this would be a Federal Tax issue -- it would affect all NHL teams. I'm pretty sure Gary Bettman has heard about this by now... and I don't think he would be very happy either.
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0 #240 TheSensTruth 2012-03-01 23:55
Quoting Mark:
Quoting Mike Bauer:
Honestly, mike Bauer has trouble believing a guy who is right handed, cut his right pinky. Something else happened, mike Bauer can guarantee that. We will never know though. Nobody who is right handed prepares meals with there other hand.

Quoting Mike Bauer:
[Honestly, mike Bauer has trouble believing a guy who is right handed, cut his right pinky. Something else happened, mike Bauer can guarantee that. We will never know though. Nobody who is right handed prepares meals with there other hand.[/quotQuoting Mike Bauer:
[quote name="RUSHRLZ"]What a weird interview with Anderson regarding his injury, not talking at all about what in particular happened or what the injury is, and describing part of the healing process as dealing with the pain.

I was under the impression that the most significant part of his injury was tendon damage in his pinky and yeah a pretty bad cut, but for the most part that is "just" stitches and letting the injury heal (tendon to regain strength). I had the extensor tendon in my thumb initially damaged by a bad cut and then it snapped in half entirely. It was a pain in the ass to heal, but anything but "painful" once they did the fixup job on it.

Anyways just a weird demeanor in his interview.


Honestly, mike Bauer has trouble believing a guy who is right handed, cut his right pinky. Something else happened, mike Bauer can guarantee that. We will never know though. Nobody who is right handed prepares meals with there other hand.


I mentioned that last week when it happened and "Hax" accused me of being a conspiracy theorist - righties don't cut their right hands - period - end of story.


Rumour is he was drunk when he cut himself. Should have went with the shwarma.
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+2 #241 NorCalSens 2012-03-02 00:02
Just a note on the whole conspiracy with the argument that no right handed person would cut their right hand while using a knife... Anderson is Left handed... Unconventional that he holds his stick with his right while he is a lefty, but he is in fact left-handed.
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0 #242 T K 2012-03-02 00:52
The thing that ticks me off most this season is scheduling. Sens always seem to have played 3, 4, 5 more games than the opposition.

That leaves Sens more tired and worn out but also implies that other teams have more time to plan, to rest, to recouperate. Winning is easier when the schedule is tilted in your favour (NYR, BOS...)

At least the Sens have managed to hold their own despite fighting both the opposition and a stacked schedule.
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+3 #243 NorCalSens 2012-03-02 01:04
Every team plays 82 games in the same amount of time... Every team has tough patches filled with highly condensed periods. It all evens out eventually.

The one scheduling thing that is downright ridiculous this year is that the Leafs only ever play us on the tail end of back to backs
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+3 #244 sensgod 2012-03-02 01:16
Im not worried about this tax thing. If there's one passionate hockey fan in Ottawa its Harper. And i believe (sarcasm intended) he's head of the federal govment.
Harper probly laughed in McGuinty's face so hard spitle came out and got all over Mcdouche's nice suite.
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0 #245 NickG 2012-03-02 04:22
To anyone in the Ottawa area... $60 is a great deal.

Here in Winnipeg, all $60 gets me is the game on TV.

WHY AREN'T ALL OF YOUR GAMES SOLD OUT? YOU HAVE A BETTER TEAM THAN I DO!

Also, yeah, Ontario trying to cut that tax is stupid. Goodbye EVERY sport team if that happens. Even if it is just an Ontario issue, it would set the precedent for the rest of the country. For some reason we listen to Ontario (clearly the worst run province).
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-2 #246 PEI SENATORS 2012-03-02 06:43
Hey Chirp,

Just read this article; http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2012/03/young-karlsson-has-put-together-a-season-for-the-ages.html, on cbc and they state that Ottawa traded their 1st round pick in 2013 to move up in the 2008 draft.

Is this true? not that I am complaining because we took Karlson, but just curious.
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+4 #247 DenisVial 2012-03-02 07:49
Quoting NorCalSens:
Every team plays 82 games in the same amount of time... Every team has tough patches filled with highly condensed periods. It all evens out eventually.

The one scheduling thing that is downright ridiculous this year is that the Leafs only ever play us on the tail end of back to backs


I honestly think the league's thinking was to try and help the Leaf's get in to the playoffs and that Ottawa fans wouldn't care about the scheduling because they expected us to suck this year. Does anyone honestly think Gary B. would force the Laff's to play a division rival on 6 back to backs? The Toronto media and fans would scream bloody murder! This was simply a plot to get the league's golden goose some easy points to get them in to the post season. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but a scheduling glitch like that is not random or an accident.
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0 #248 SensChirp 2012-03-02 08:08
Quoting PEI SENATORS:
Hey Chirp,

Just read this article; http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2012/03/young-karlsson-has-put-together-a-season-for-the-ages.html, on cbc and they state that Ottawa traded their 1st round pick in 2013 to move up in the 2008 draft.

Is this true? not that I am complaining because we took Karlson, but just curious.

Certainly wasn't the 2013 1st. Tried to find the details online but couldn't. Anybody recall what they gave up?
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+1 #249 HLSnake 2012-03-02 08:15
Chirp, first time poster, long time reader here.

I think they only traded 1st for a later 1st in the same draft year. I forgot who they traded it to though, which is pretty bad of me considering I was at the draft.
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0 #250 Smash_88 2012-03-02 08:27
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting PEI SENATORS:
Hey Chirp,

Just read this article; http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2012/03/young-karlsson-has-put-together-a-season-for-the-ages.html, on cbc and they state that Ottawa traded their 1st round pick in 2013 to move up in the 2008 draft.

Is this true? not that I am complaining because we took Karlson, but just curious.

Certainly wasn't the 2013 1st. Tried to find the details online but couldn't. Anybody recall what they gave up?


Was it not with Nashville? 1st for 1st in the same year? I think it was only a few spots, and I think Nashville took a goalie with Ottawa's original pick...

Ottawa may have thrown in another pick too, since they were moving up..
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0 #251 Spinorama 2012-03-02 08:31
Trade: Ottawa receives the 15th pick from Nashville for the 18th and a 2009 3rd Round Pick

Courtesy of mynhldraft.com
Nashville picks Chet Pickard with 18th overall.
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0 #252 darthsens911 2012-03-02 08:32
Ottawa had the 18th overall pick and Nashville had the 15th which they swapped plus Ottawa's 2009 3rd round pick so that Ottawa could pick Karlsson and Nashville picked Goalie Chet Pickard.
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0 #253 53N5FAN 2012-03-02 08:50
AND ANOTHER THING, the Leafs almost always play at prime time on Saturday night, regardless... not that that makes it easy, re: scheduling... just ticks me off...

Over the past decade, how many years was Ottawa the better team, yet the majority of viewers in Canada still want to watch the leafs lose...

At university, I remember pivotal games at the end of the season were missed because the CBC wanted to show the leafs playing spoiler rather than the sens fight for a playoff spot... C'MON REF!

BOOOOOO!
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0 #254 TheSensTruth 2012-03-02 08:51
Quoting NickG:
To anyone in the Ottawa area... $60 is a great deal.

Here in Winnipeg, all $60 gets me is the game on TV.

WHY AREN'T ALL OF YOUR GAMES SOLD OUT? YOU HAVE A BETTER TEAM THAN I DO!

Also, yeah, Ontario trying to cut that tax is stupid. Goodbye EVERY sport team if that happens. Even if it is just an Ontario issue, it would set the precedent for the rest of the country. For some reason we listen to Ontario (clearly the worst run province).


Wait 10 years and you will be able to get tickets in Winnipeg for $60. The Jets are still new and shiny...again.
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+1 #255 boom 2012-03-02 08:59
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Just had a thought...where is that Johnny guy that was a regular around here? Chirp?

Johnny? Not sure I recall that poster. Although they all tend to blend together when you read every single comment :)

And the SensChirp reader thing was a filter I put in for some if the generic insults that people were overusing. Wanna insult someone? Better get creative :)

Chirp, can you put in another filter for "Mike Bauer" - perhaps substituting it with "I'm an idiot, and I"...
That way, instead of us seeing "Mike Bauer thinks....", we would see "I'm an idiot, and I think...."
If you have to pay a developer to put in this filter, I'm sure I'm not the only one willing to share this cost.
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-1 #256 Tookie 2012-03-02 09:07
Quoting T K:
The thing that ticks me off most this season is scheduling. Sens always seem to have played 3, 4, 5 more games than the opposition.

That leaves Sens more tired and worn out but also implies that other teams have more time to plan, to rest, to recouperate. Winning is easier when the schedule is tilted in your favour (NYR, BOS...)

At least the Sens have managed to hold their own despite fighting both the opposition and a stacked schedule.


Sens have the easiest 2nd half schedule in the league, you can also say that since the Sens have played more they should have better chemistry and should be hitting their stride.

your excuse is pathetic.
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+2 #257 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-02 09:08
Good morning everybuddy. Ahhhhhh finally we can purge the nonsense in this thread with a Game Day post. Can't wait!

Praise Alfie!
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-1 #258 SNOOPY SENIOR 2012-03-02 09:09
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting NorCalSens:
Every team plays 82 games in the same amount of time... Every team has tough patches filled with highly condensed periods. It all evens out eventually.

The one scheduling thing that is downright ridiculous this year is that the Leafs only ever play us on the tail end of back to backs


I honestly think the league's thinking was to try and help the Leaf's get in to the playoffs and that Ottawa fans wouldn't care about the scheduling because they expected us to suck this year. Does anyone honestly think Gary B. would force the Laff's to play a division rival on 6 back to backs? The Toronto media and fans would scream bloody murder! This was simply a plot to get the league's golden goose some easy points to get them in to the post season. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but a scheduling glitch like that is not random or an accident.


@ Denis Vial,

It is without any doubt in my mind, not an accident, but
another vehicle, to ensure that the richest team, uses to gain entry into the post season playoffs!

Should the TML not qualify again, it will be the 8th year in a row, that they start golfing early !!

Wilson is possibly done as Head Coach, after getting an extension to his contract for his Xmas gift !!

Will Burke survive another fiasco ??


GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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0 #259 miguel 2012-03-02 09:29
Quoting Timic:
Business thrives under a capitalistic gov't
your socialist view, is what Karl Marx build communism under
thought you might be able to bridge the two... sorry
take your polical crap over to 580 talk radio... your takes here are against the viability of a successful business, and key contributor to the economy of the greater Ottawa area...IMO of course

First of all Karl Marx wrote a couple books and never built anything. Second there has never been a communist economy - there have been socialist ones. If you actually want a "capitalist economy" you don't get small market NHL teams because they all, including the Senators, have relied on government funding in getting established. Historically, business has thrived mostly under "market socialism" as it existed in the "golden age" from the 1950s to the 1970s. Economic growth rates in all Westen countries were higher in such an environment. Finally, if you really, really want an environment in which business will thrive - you'd have to pick a capitalist dictatorship. Those systems statistically have the highest economic growth. But I'll assume you don't want that?

It makes sense to stop these loopholes in the case of Toronto, but not in the case of small market teams like Ottawa. As I stated originally. It's not a capitalist/communist/socialist thing and I don't know why people keep turning it into that. Small market teams are already hybrid public-private mixed enterprises. They should continue to be supported by government in that way in my opinion. since it is the only way they are viable. They are already not "capitalist". If they were, they would not exist.


Nope
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+1 #260 spezzerman 2012-03-02 09:42
Regarding the Anderson righty vs. lefty conspiracy theorists out there;

Spezzerman is technically left handed as he writes, chops, and uses cutlery/chopsti cks (and spezzerman loves sushi you nazi haters!) with his left. But his dominant hand is his right. he shoots right in hockey, uses right handed golf clubs and bats right in baseball. He throws with his right hand and he catches with his left hand. And (ATTN: MIKE BAUER) Spezzerman jersey-jabs with his left and delivers knock out blows with his right.

If spezzerman were to play goal he'd have his blocker/trapper on the same hands as Anderson. And if spezzerman cut a hand while chopping (he wouldn't bleed though as spezzerman ain't got time to bleed) it would be a cut to the Right Hand of Spezzerman.

Spezzerman says surely Anderson could possibly be the same. AND what spezzerman says, spezzerman takes to spezzerman's bank.

And it turns out, writing in the third person is as lame as reading third person writing. But of course, Spezzerman knew that.
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+1 #261 spezzerman 2012-03-02 09:50
Why are folks unhappy that Ottawa gets the most rest in the final stretch to the playoff run? In the grand scheme of things the difference in team's schedules over the course of the year is minor. If they wanted to, every team can find issues with their schedules.

I love that we have more games played, will get more rest here on out and have forced other teams to chase us in the standings. its a perfect situation really.
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0 #262 miguel 2012-03-02 10:06
Many interesting takes this morning.

Taxes - Need the Feds to change the laws to allow the provinces to make the decision, but since the Province of Ontario is the only one run by an ignoramace fool we would be the only ones affected. Trust me it is real b/c the Sens know how stupid McGuinty really is!

Conpiracies - abslolutely the Laffs needed to beat Ottawa every game and would only help them get into the playoffs, my question is why would the Sens agree to this schedule?
- the right hand/left hand was cleared up pretty well by Spezzerman - only conspiracy might be that after the big win by Andy, and the next day off, he probably got into the sauce and was embarrassed by it.

Another big game tonight, I really think it will be an exciting game with another big game by Lehner (not sure yet which nickname I like, they were all amusing)...hope to make it there but
Sens win 5-2

Go Sens Go

PS really am relishing what is happening again in TO... they must feel like it is Groundhog day every year around this time... BLOW it up and start over again and again and again... I love it
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+1 #263 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-02 10:33
Quoting spezzerman:
Regarding the Anderson righty vs. lefty conspiracy theorists out there;

Spezzerman is technically left handed as he writes, chops, and uses cutlery/chopsticks (and spezzerman loves sushi you nazi haters!) with his left. But his dominant hand is his right. he shoots right in hockey, uses right handed golf clubs and bats right in baseball. He throws with his right hand and he catches with his left hand. And (ATTN: MIKE BAUER) Spezzerman jersey-jabs with his left and delivers knock out blows with his right.

If spezzerman were to play goal he'd have his blocker/trapper on the same hands as Anderson. And if spezzerman cut a hand while chopping (he wouldn't bleed though as spezzerman ain't got time to bleed) it would be a cut to the Right Hand of Spezzerman.

Spezzerman says surely Anderson could possibly be the same. AND what spezzerman says, spezzerman takes to spezzerman's bank.

And it turns out, writing in the third person is as lame as reading third person writing. But of course, Spezzerman knew that.


RUSHRLZ finds this post very amusing. Well done.
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