With Washington and Winnipeg both winning last night, the Sens have slipped into 10th place in the Eastern Conference, still just a single point out of 8th.
This recent stretch of games has shown exactly why Bryan Murray hasn't been in any rush to trade his defensive depth. With Filip Kuba already out for the next month or so, the Sens are now also without Sergei Gonchar who left Thursday's game with an upper body injury. They have taken heat in the past but the reality is both Gonchar and Kuba have played extremely important minutes for the Sens this year. Replacing them will not be easy.
With Gonchar sidelined, Matt Carkner steps into the line up. Carkner will be suiting up for his first game this season and will be paired with rookie David Rundblad.
Peter Regin announced after the skate this morning that he is ready to return to the line up and will play against the Canucks. He will take the place of Zenon Konopka. Here is how the Sens are expected to line up.
Michalek-Spezza-Daugavins
Regin-Foligno-Alfredsson
Condra-Smith-Neil
Greening-Winchester-Butler
Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Lee
Rundblad-Carkner
Craig Anderson gets the start in the Ottawa goa. Puck drop is just after 7:00 PM tonight with the game available on CBC's Hockey Night in Canada.
And lastly, thoughts and prayers go out to Binghamton Senators defenceman Patrick Wiercioch after a scary incident in last night's BSens game. He was admitted to the hospital after taking a puck in the neck area. You can see video of the incident here. Updates on his condition have been hard to come by since the incident but the latest suggested that Wiercioch is in stable condition. Wishing Patrick a speedy recovery!
Glad to see carkner a regin return, GO SENS!
btw is ottawa getting the cbc national feed tonight? Or is winnipeg?
Regin-Foligno-Alfredsson
Condra-Smith-Neil
Greening-Winchester-Butler
Think this is how forwards will line up. Regin is going to play on that second line but Foligno will still take draws.
Why would LW Daugavins be on RW?
Is Michalek truly on LW ?
Also, it should be Rundblad - Carkner on 3rd pairing !
That's how they lined up on the top line in Jersey, no? And I would assume Carkner will play the left side in a pairing with Rundblad.
You might be correct on line 1 ,
but last game it was Rundblad - Lee
So, guess we will have to wait till puck drop !!
Might be right Snoopy. We'll see how they line up.
Is information that hard to get from the Senators this season?
GO SENS GO
Go Sens Go,
Spendzza
Our PK has been good thus far, but lately the powerplay has been down right horrendous. The Sens need to score on the PP tonight and penalty kill and we will win the game. Surprised Greening's on the third line. He always plays well vs. the Canucks.
Not sure there is a scoop to be had on either of these issues. The Sens were not thrilled with the way he handled the threat of leaving for Russia. They want him to work hard and earn his time in the line up.
Obviously, in the eyes of Paul MacLean, Filatov has not done that. He is a healthy scratch for that reason.
Regarding Regin, he has been practicing with the team for more than a week now. Think that was a pretty good indication he was getting close.
Remember guys, we're still near the start of the rebuild - no major rush here.
Also that Rundblad-Carkne r tandem sounds terrifying. Carks hasn't played in a long time and Rundblad hasn't been playing very well lately.
Regin has been practicing for a few days, and it was said he would be back next week, so I guess he feels ready as of this morning at practise.
Agreed. PM seems to really like the Stay at home with the PMD, but with Carkner, I would prefer he be paired with Cowen if he must be paired with a rookie.
All that is speculation, and assumptions. Which is my point, Sens are very tight lipped lately.
@ JQS,
The Sens showed a clip of Regin on TV at a practise, and he felt ready to play . Guess you never saw this ??
The whole team seems to be working hard under MacLean and for that reason alone, I will trust this coaches judgement every single night he scratches Filatov.
We have our opinions....PM gets a paycheck, simple as that.
Moving on....
If Foligno continues to play the way he is, he's going to cash-in big time. I imagine Regin, Winnie, Konopka will al be let go. We all know Kuba is outta here to!
I think Zack needs the Daug if he gets the Twins...put #14 back with Jason and Neil to the 4th line.
#13 better not stand around and let Alfie and Nick do all the grunt work...big test tonight...
Luongo says he's up again...
And how funny is that? They've been the ones who shocked and surprised the entire Sens Nation and have been playing somewhat decently. Who is in the system for our D-Men? I would assume Lee & Carkner will not return. Kuba is definitely not returning so it gives quite a few spots out there. Also failed to mentioned that Karlsson's contract is ending this year so that's an automatic lock and at least $4 M.
I thought Filatov was playing pretty good but just needs more time to develop some chemisty. He played a lot better then when Butler was on spezza's line in my opinion.
Can't wait to see Carkner play tonight though :)
Lots of fresh talent behind them.
I agree Karlsson resign is a no brainer, Foligno Daugavins should be resigned and possible Carkner depending on his play .
Kuba Lee Winchester Konopka Regin are all gone in my opinion, trade bait.
Winchester reminds me of Shannon, good but not great.
Filatov I have no idea whats going on there.
If we are letting Filatov go, why keep paying him this year, could it be Murry is trying to work out a deal to resign him now and then let him go to the KHL for a bit to develop..
I said relative to Filatov - he's been in the org, played with Bingo last year including the playoff run, played very well at the end of last year. Not saying to hand him anything - but I have no problem letting him play through a rough patch.
Do not believe that Filatov was a Sens last year??
Thought we got him from Columbus at start of this season
in a trade with Blue Jackets ??
I'm hoping you are being sarcastic.
Patrick Wiercioch will be transported to Upstate Medical Center soon, per an anonymous source. #BSens #Sens
im more angry that i dont get to watch the game tonight due to an exam tonight 7-10 than seeing those line ups and hearing daug is on top line greening and butler on 4th (over konopka) and seeing carks and rundy being a pairing.. yikes
Think Carkner will fight in the first period?
I think that fourth line will be extremely fun to watch and even harder to hold down. They may surprise the Canucks tonight.
Very happy to hear Regin is back, and filling in with a hot Foligno and Alfie, if he comes back playing as good as before that will make for a very strong lineup...I hope :)
looking forward to the game
Go Sens Go!!!
Is that good news or bad news?
we will see the line of Daugavins -Spezza - Michalek !
Anyways.
Go Sens Go!!!
I thought this was a Toronto/Montrea l thing but I think its become trendy for every other team's fans to swarm SBP...
If you saw that pre game piece on phillips, you know why he was signed... not for his hockey skill
Murray just didnt have the balls to send him packing
3 more years in D zone hell
Id rather see cowen struggle as a rookie than phillips struggle as a veteran
Rundblad needs time in th AHL, no questions asked.
changes need to be made, not necessarily now but in the offseason.
we have way too many 3rd and 4th liners...
looks like tonight will be a thrashing....no t surprised.
Agreed. You don't need to be an NHL coach to figure that one out.. This game is brutal so far. Its the sad realisation that we are a bottom tier team. The downward spiral is in motion...
Yeah its like a real bad car accident, you dont want to watch but you cant help it.
Ron Maclean to Kirk Muller: What's the news on Skinner?
Kirk Muller: He's out with the flu.
PJ Stock: So... Is it upper body or lower body?
Classic.
How many odd man rushes in the first?? I counted 5-6 with maybe 3-4 on the PP?
Unbelievable.
U must be drunk because that is the dumbest thing i have heard today. hes young, gonna have some challenges, lay off
Your a moron
Stop questioning the coaches decisions because none of us know any better.
the guy is committed to this team and he's a feirce competitor.
there is something to be said for bloodline...
Its not whining its the truth ...Daugs should not be on the first line period not questioning the coach just wondering what he is thinking ..Rebuild or not Daugs is not 1st line player
Burrows crashes the net, clips anderson, falls and regin gets a penalty.
On the power play kesler clips anderson, anderson falls kesler scores, no goaltender interferance again and they score,
Should have been two powerplays for ottawa
Folding like paper... physically at least
Cowen needs to realize that Phillips is not his baby sitter.
I was actually just about to type the same thing no joke lol
Oh my bad I thought they said he was done for the night I must of heard wrong then
For pete's sake -- give them a break.
Not a lot of experience on D tonight.. and they can't stay out of the penalty box... that's the difference right there.
I don't know what some of you think a re-build actually is. It sounds like you expected too much from this team. It's the first year of a re-build...
How was that not a interference or cross checking on alfredsson?
Sounds like alot excuses to me ...lol...
I dont think this is a rebuild I think of this more of a fall out of alot bad management ..if this was a rebuild Spezza Neil Gonchar Kuba etc would be traded for young players and picks ..Philips wouldnt be re-signed etc
LEHNER would be in nets not a bio polar goalie like Anderson
Karlsson has to shoot the puck. to hear the idiot announcers talking about his 'fake shot' being amazing.. I'm pulling my hair out everytime he does it. the kid has a rocket, when he doesnt shoot like that, he's more frustrating to watch than spezza
You don't get to play like that during the regular season. Ottawa tried that tonight and faced a parade to the box. Ottawa failed miserably on the PP tonight. Many wasted chances.
Spezza should play point on a 5 on 3 - he makes too many stupid passes on the half board
Neil can hit but that is all - no more hockey IQ after that
I dont think this is a rebuild I think of this more of a fall out of alot bad management ..if this was a rebuild Spezza Neil Gonchar Kuba etc would be traded for young players and picks ..Philips wouldnt be re-signed etc
LEHNER would be in nets not a bio polar goalie like Anderson"
i completely disagree with your method of rebuilding. having a line up completely made of young unexperienced players would be a disaster. having players like neil, spezza and gonchar allow young players to learn and not have 100% of the responsibility rest on them.
and this way we win!! at least a decent amount. having a losing team is depressing for us fans, the management(who also lose money), and for the young players who need confidence boosted to learn.
Refs were pathetic. (again)
has to be something done about teams overtaking our building.
Playing a home game that sounded like they were in Vancouver, kept checking center ice for the vancouver logo.
Next game.
stop forcing this guy down my damn throat!
He cannot play at this level, and the more you keep playing him the more I doubt his first round status!
for the love of God am I the only one who realizes that Lee is much better than Rundblad and even a better D-man than Karlsson!
yah I know Karlsson puts up points
but that is b/c he is playing left wing and not fukin defense!!!!
Enough play fukin Lee!!!!
Sorry but I have had enough of BM's first round pics
it is time to see what our players can do and Rundblad is God awful right now,
and Karlsson is a good left winger but a brutal d-mam
PS Karlsson HIT THE FUKIN NET once and a while
sorry but all this love in with Karlsson and Rundblad has past the expriry date for me
Runblad is young, should be in the AHL but has serious potential.
Karlsson is a take the good with the bad player...
Honestly, its easy to see why everyone hates the Canucks. They are a bunch of fucking losers and this re-assures my happiness when I saw them lose last year. I hope they continue to be a team that just cant get there.
Ottawa beat themselves pretty much. Dumb penalties and just couldn't get anything going. That said, Im tired of Bobby Butler. I'd like to see if Filatov has anything to offer.
Liked the physical play Ottawa brought though. They played a really tough game and good on them, gotta win somewhere...
Just wish it was Burrows instead of Hodgson, man the entire NHL would've laughed there ass off and will one day when someone feeds him.
I rarely agree with you but
FUK YAH!
yeah, seriously. When a team that lives over 3000km away comes in and runs our building, thats BS. The fans there should be ashamed. Why people even cheer for VAN is beyond me - bunch of losers really. I'd sooner be a Leafs fan.
to me Lee is most comparable to phillips. he's good defensively and his best hockey is when he keeps it simple. comparing him to Rundblad is ridiculous.
how's yer blood pressure? one day your happy the next yer fit to be tied..lol
And through the years I have had to endure political decisions that were not based on talent but on contract and who was picked first.
I loved Rundblad BEFORE he played here, but it is clear he cannot play at the NHL level
I did not know much about Lee before he played her but it is CLEAR he is a bet D-man than both Rundblad and Karlsson but does not play b/c he was not a BM pick
Enough is FUKIN ENOUGH... Lee is better than Rundbald, Gonchar, and even Philips, and defensively better than Karlsson
LET YOUR BETTER PLAYERS PLAY!!!
and put the fukin politics aside!!!
Funny Andrew and somewhat true
Happy with our progress but frustrated that Rundblad is not learning how to play in the NHL and in fact, is really gaining some very bad habits. He cannot play in the NHL right now, and seems almost lazy.
His play is brutal, and his mentor Karlsson is not helping him any.
Karlsson has upside but he and Rundblad cannot be on the top 6 of any team, the way they are playing right now.
And am I the only one who watches Lee and thinks, holy shit he can be a top 4 on any other team, but no we keep burying him?
BTW I do have high blood pressure, but that game does not do me an y good :)
chris phillips is showing the rookie d-men: WHAT NOT TO DO by repeatedly doing it himself.
i think ottawa had the canucks holed up until that 5on3. but then ottawa changed the wrong gears and that was it. the canucks were getting agitated and finally the game was following a theme of a physical ottawa team which was going to bully and pigeon hole the canucks. but the lack of shots on that 5on3 just gifted the game to the canucks. a goal on that 5on3 and this game does not end in a straight out loss.
i think maclean needs to start thinking about balancing the goal of winning most games and the goal of trying out the really key prospects on this team, namely rundblad, butler and filatov.
I'm probably just seeing things... Square jawed roidy roid roid !
haha his face is just fat... Kessel has man titties. I have no idea how he's such a great hockey player.
This is a rebuild, the young guys aren't always gonna be consistent and they will make a lot of mistakes. You need to go a little easier on them, and they will improve! And btw, chris phillips has played more games in the nhl than all of the other d-men playing for the sens COMBINED...whic h tells you our defence does not have a lot of experience.
GO SENS GO
This is a rebuild, the young guys aren't always gonna be consistent and they will make a lot of mistakes. You need to go a little easier on them, and they will improve! And btw, chris phillips has played more games in the nhl than all of the other d-men playing for the sens COMBINED...whic h tells you our defence does not have a lot of experience
Well said!!
GO SENS GO
Patience my man...DR7 has less than 30 games experience. Seriously, what are you expecting? Damn man, Drew Doughty had 27 points and was a -17 his rookie year.
You're going to go crazy if you embrace the highs and lows so strongly. Seriously dude, if you already have high blood pressure, you need to find some inner peace.
It's a game AND a rebuilding year. Now, does a game like this make me think they are better to play the youth? Yup. They have 30 points in 30 games. If they sneak into the playoffs, I fear it will be a pyrrhic victory; especially if they trade for immediate gain for a playoff push. I don't believe BM would do this though, despite calls to do so if they are close.
Foligno-Spezza- Michalek
Filatov-Regin-Alfie
Greening-Smith-Condra
Winchester-Kono -Neil
Phillips - Lee
Cowen - Karlsson
Gonchar - Carkner
Wowie i wish that we could try those lines!
Not excuses... FACT. They need to keep some of the vets... they will be gone over the period of a few years.
Having said that, we are not going to win all games and we are not at the skill level yet of Vancouver and other teams, if we were we would be at the top of the standings not the middle.
Karlsson Rundblad Cowan are our future so play them as much as we can to develop, win or lose. Lee is not a bad player but is a mediocre serviceable D nothing special, he does not hurt the team but he does not show signs of being elite.
Our power play needs some work, so what let the young guys work on it and get better, don't crap on them for learning.
If you are looking for a team with all established vets we are not it.
We are a developing team, let them develop.
Next year we will have more rookies again to develop.
In the NHL he does not have the time to make a play like he did in the SEL. This game is much faster.
He has to 'learn' to play here. That will come in time -- by playing.
Without Kuba & Gonchar (who TSN said last night was a healthy scratch) the D right now (other than Phillips & Carkner) is young and inexperienced.
The other teams are going to all-out pressure this young D and mistakes will happen. But they will learn from them.
Re-builds take time.. they don't happen overnight.
What's up with Elliott? I guess the system the Blues play is more sound defensively than the Sens had last season. He has been lights out... good for him.
I think Elliot caved under the pressure to be number 1 in Ottawa and us playing like crap buried him.
Fresh start, renewed confidence.
Elliot played well at times for us, he is young.
I do however think Anderson is way better, I think he can handle the pressure of us playing like crap in front of him now and again.
all goalies seem to have droughts of bad play Luongo (not last night) Miller and others but they come around.
Its time to make some solid lines
We know who works,lets make a plan and stick to it
As for Karlsson, he has to adjust his game a little bit now. I think teams are really trying to focus in on him right now and he just has to battle through it. When teams throw together a gameplan for a certain opponent, they always identify the best and most dangerous players on a given team. Karlsson is one of our best and most dangerous players and teams know that now.
He'll get through this recent slump and be a better player for it. He's 21 years old, a magician with the puck and one of the greatest skaters in the league. He's going to be one of the best PMD for the next decade, and his defensive game will continue to grow as her matures as a player, no doubt about it.
Filatov spezza milo
Regin foligno alfy
Condra smith neil
Butler winchester greening
Even though daugavins has played well he needs to go back down to bingo and hopefully find a taker for konopka at the deadline
Sure doesn't sound like I missed much but all this whining and pissing against the wind is not helping my hangover much. It is a rebuild and we knew back in Oct that we were going to have a touch time this year and probably the next.
Relax folks, take a pill or go sailing with me but let's let this thing play out. Great coach, our young players are doing better that we thought and we can watch their progress without expecting to compete for the Cup this year. I have to wonder why people expected us to keep up to Bos,Pit,Van,Phi and the other top teams this year with
a young squad like our Sens.
Anyway that is my rant for the day. And now back to my tequila/lime and try to shake this damn crudo.
Great Sunday to you all!!g
I agree with most posts that he will be great one day, but not today. He is learning some bad habits and really needs time in the AHL
Why is it ok for Rundblad to learn in the NHL but not Lee?
And why is it ok for him to talk about going to the SEL, if he is demoted, but not ok for Filatov?
And why does every one else have to "earn" their ice time but Rundblad gets it despite his defensive lapses.
Just sayin that there seems to be some double standards, and I really believe it is hurting hid develpment... thats all
Both Foligno hits were clean. Nick was just finishing his checks and both Hodgson and Kesler were falling as they were being hit. Hopefully Hodgson is okay, he's one of the few Canucks that I actually respect. Kesler on the other hand is a bitch. I can't stand that guy.
I'm slightly concerned about the Neil hit on Burrows. I can't stand Burrows one bit but Neil did go after him with the elbow to the head. Hopefully he won't get any discipline from that jokester Shanahan.
I loved Shanahan as a player, but man he sucks at his new job.
Canucks did say Hodgeson is fine... it was just a precaution they kept him out.
I hope Alfie has no affects from that crosscheck that was not called.
@ AFM11,
Well said in all your post, and we got suckered by the
Vancouver team, just like the Bruins did in SCF last year !
Bruins, however caught them at every turn, and humiliated
the whole team . Sad part is, Ovechkin was guilty, but as a star he was not punished. Neil will get some punishment,
even though he has never been fined or suspended, in whole NHL career!