The Bruins come into the match up with the Sens with a disappointing 3-7-0 record, which included a 2-5-0 record at TD Garden, the site for tonight’s Sens/Bruins match up.
The Stanley Cup Hangover is in full effect in Beantown as the lowly Bruins have struggled to find their game in the early going. You know they are going to come out hungry tonight and eager to prove that an ugly October is behind them as the calendar flips to November. The Bruins come in to tonight having lost three straight and need to get this thing turned around in a hurry. If they get down early, the hometown faithful could start to turn on them a little bit.
Meanwhile, the Ottawa Senators come into this one as hot as any team in the NHL. The Sens have reeled off six straight wins including an impressive win over the rival Maple Leafs on Sunday night. Tonight is just another chance for these Pesky Sens to show that they are not a team to be taken lightly.
It will not be easy for the visitors though as they will again play without their Captain, Daniel Alfredsson. Alfie did not make the trip to Boston and is expected to miss at least a week after a blatant headshot delivered by Wojtek Wolski on Saturday afternoon. A hit that the league has mystifyingly declared a legal check.
With Alfie out, Paul MacLean will be forced to shuffle up the lines a little bit and is expected to sport a similar look the one that beat the Leafs on Sunday although I would not be surprised to see Konopka draw back in.
Greening-Spezza-Michalek
Foligno-Da Costa-Butler
Condra-Smith-Neil
Filatov-Winchester-Konopka
Rundblad-Phillips
Kuba-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Brian Lee is expected to be a scratch once again.
On another side of things GO SENS GO!!
1. Spezza's first hatty
2. Andersson's first donut (if he plays).
GO SENS GO!!!
And as I am sure we are all pissed and confused about the Alfie situation, the unfortunate thing is nothing is going to change it. I think we need an eye-for-an-eye type punishment. You hit and they miss, you miss. That'll make 'em think twice.
SENSATIONAL SEVEN HERE WE COME!!!
I'm not saying that he shouldn't be suspended but I do think it played a role in the call.
The part that gets me is they say Alfie skated into him. I mean, that's like saying, I'm gonna drive 100km/h into a brick wall and see what happens... I think Alfie is smarter than that.
Felt he was moving out to the point and changed his angle, away from the puck carrier and towards Alfredsson. Looks so obvious on the replay.
Get asked that a lot but I have not heard anything. Ottawa would definitely be interested but the Coyotes have been pretty clear about not dealing him.
how did those Rocket Richard Riots start ?? Maybe we should have an Alfie Riot ? Ok maybe not, but what's Shanny's twitter account again ? Let him get rocked by the new 2011 way of rioting ... Social Media ! Lol.
That's too bad because with Lee going the other way it could be a WIN-WIN for everyone involved.
@NHLShanahan
Been sending him tweets for 3 days straight now! All I want is a response, nothing yet...
Thx SS
Wow that 2nd line scares me, no experience but full of energy, will be interesting to see how they react in the hostile environment of Boston!
I wonder which line will be the lucky one to draw the Lucic Krejci Horton line, ouch, some big bodies!!
Also Thomas owns the Sens...
Whats good for us is Boston is playing like absolute shit!!!
Go Filatov!!
GO SENS GO!
Spam Shannahan!!!
Fisher, Alfie .... totally disgusting.
As per tonight, can't wait. Oh and for anybody wondering about a Sens friendly spot in Toronto, Grace O'Malley's will not air Sens games if the Laffs are playing. IT IS NOT A SENS BAR.
Three great places to catch Sens action in the big smoke are Real Sports, Hoops (Queen St. W.) and Shoeless Joe's on King at Duncan!
Sens 4-3 tonight. Suck it Beantown!
Worth a read fellow chipers. Goes into the langauge of the "rules", and clearly shows his opinion that the Refs blew it on those calls.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=379366 - check it.
We didn't need to read this to know how wrong those calls went in that game, but it's good to see a 20 year Ref pipe in about it.
I'll go with a 3-2 Sens shootout win, keeping with the Sens comeback attitude and Boston struggles and low scoring game.
Any news on any of the other injured players ?
Lehner is still here so I assume not. Alfie is at least a week. Carkner still does not have a timeline but seems to be getting closer.
I've got a feeling this will be a bit of a letdown game
Da Costa played 8 minutes, he was taking a back seat to Zach Smith who was all over the place. MacLean plays the hot hand, no matter who it is....smart.
He also dosnt play PK...
Should be a hard fought battle tonight that will come down to whichever goalie can stand on his head the most. Let's go 4-3 for Ottawa. GO SENS GO!!!
Go Sens! keep it going, huge test tonight despite an underwhelming boston record!
Actually Da Costa does play PK normally, it's part of his skillset, he just hasn't had much of a chance so far during the season as we have a lot of forwards worthy of those 4 PK spots. With Alfie out he may get more time there.
Here is to hope we keep it going tonight.
I think this will be a goalie showdown.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Filatov juggled in and out of the second line if Butler struggles in the early parts of the game. With the torrid scoring coming from Spezza, Michalek, Greening and ofcourse Karlsson and Gonchar racking up assists on the back-end, it would be nice to see Butler return to form and start potting some 2nd line-production for us. We've been high scoring after 12 games, but it would be great to see skilled guys like Butler and even Filatov start pitching in to make us more dangerous.
He's played 10 seconds of PK this year, so again....no he doesnt play the PK.
SO WHAT? the sens have not been favored going into any matchup this season, 6 game win streak or not. YET here we are with a 6 game win streak and only sucking in two categories in the league: PK and EV-GA. btw that PK put quite the sleep on that toronto PP last game.
i say the sens put in another surprising effort and come out with another surprising result and take one more step towards legitimizing themselves as a good team this season. and if people have been paying close attention to boston over the last year and their last two games against mtl: SPEED KILLS THE BRUINS.
Where's your prediction?
my prediction is that they win this game, im not going to predict a score. I just want a win. It can be a blowout, it can be a nick of time 2.5 second or less thriller, it can be OT, it can be shootout. im just enjoying each win they get because honestly each has been special with its own unique quirks.
Thanks , SC
Hopefully the "hangover" can last for atleast one more game, or we could be in for quite a battle tonight.
Need a big game from everyone tonight, not just our top scorers.
Hoping for it!
Curious, what website do you look at to see how much PP and PK time a player has to date? Would be happy to see these stats, assuming your being accurate.
Not to toot my own horn, but I was one of the few who said that this team would turn a few heads this season, especially the naysayers who said this team would finish in the basement. While I don't expect this streak to continue on to 20 games or for us to be on top of the eastern division, I do expect for us to be slightly above .500 and to give teams everything that they can handle. Love the dramatic comebacks we've had this season. The chemistry is really starting to settle in and players seem to really be buying into MacL's system.
Gotta love Greening's and Michalek's hot starts and to no one's surprise (or at least not mine) Spezza is putting up numbers like he should have been the past couple of seasons.
And our powerplay is absolutely lethal.
GO SENS GO!
Ha! I am genuinely curious about the same thing but didnt ask as I just figured it would be taken as an attack. I'm always looking for new sites with different, specific stats. if anyone has any suggestions that would be greatly appreciated!
Tookie, he played a lot more in the pre-season. He just hasn't had as much opportunity during the regular season so far. I'm not going to go back and forth over this, bottom line it's in his skillset and you'll likely see him more there in the future.
It is a Sens friendly bar but they have to cater to the majority of their clientele. When the Leafs were sucking our ass all those years we made the playoffs after the lockout, the place was filled with red jerseys, especially during the cup run....Don't get it twisted...
Tooks is currently frantickly searching for any site with PK time stats. He has no site, he made it up.
All this info is on NHL.com
really? thanks!
Tooks is currently frantickly searching for any site with PK time stats. He has no site, he made it up.
NHL.com under stats then under time on ice...
Yeah once you figure out how to navigate the Stats page on NHL.com, it basically has every kind of stat you can think of.. It's really good and goes back a few years too...
Do you know how to get the preseason stats for time on ice like this? I only saw Regular season and Playoffs in the drop down for this year.
MAKE IT 7 boyz
I don't think they keep a very detailed preseason stat page.. The only thing I can find for preseason is goals, assists, powerplay and shorthanded goals... I don't think they track Time on Ice for preseason at least on NHL.com anyhow...
2 GP...7A ..+2
Boston is not all that much removed from the SC champs, and the shit is hitting the fan in Boston.
Boston will bring it like a playoff game tonight, and for whatever reason Thomas loves to play the Sens.
I think it will take a full 60 minutes, with Anderson shutting the door early to further frustrate the Bruins.
If he can hold them off the scoresheet for the first half of he game we can take this 3-1.
But if Boston manages to get ahead early, we will be in tough.
I expect a 7-0 lead for Boston in the 1st but Sens win this one 8-7 with Spezza netting the winner with 1.3 seconds left.
Thanks anyways Smash, much appreciated!
he still occasionally posts...follows the EXACT same formula for every post still
LOL the way this year has gone, who could argue with you :) other than Tooks of course
IN STACHE I TRUST, he's been in Movember for 8 years
http://thegoalieguild.com/2011/10/jonas-hillers-special-movember-mask/
Curious, what website do you look at to see how much PP and PK time a player has to date? Would be happy to see these stats, assuming your being accurate.
All this info is on NHL.com
Plenty of stats on NHL.com, but no-where does it show how many minutes any player has spend on the PP or PK.
Curious, what website do you look at to see how much PP and PK time a player has to date? Would be happy to see these stats, assuming your being accurate.
All this info is on NHL.com
Plenty of stats on NHL.com, but no-where does it show how many minutes any player has spend on the PP or PK.
SHIT....just ate my words. It does show it.
Allright Tooks....you win this round. 10 seconds is accurate.
Curious, what website do you look at to see how much PP and PK time a player has to date? Would be happy to see these stats, assuming your being accurate.
All this info is on NHL.com
Plenty of stats on NHL.com, but no-where does it show how many minutes any player has spend on the PP or PK.
Look again... It's there with all the Time on Ice stats...
Here's the link...
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?season=20112012&gameType=2&team=OTT&position=S&country=&status=&viewName=timeOnIce
Edit: Nevermind, looks like you found it.. LOL
:facepalm:
I know you never change a lineup, unnecessarily but how long can they keep Lee sitting, after a good finish to the year, and a strong camp.
There must be teams willing to take a flyer on a former 1st rounder that seems to be coming into form?
I absolutely would hate to lose him, but as I have posted before, quietly his agent must be asking Murray to do something... they are really hurting his development and plain and simple this kid deserves to play,
Any news?
Yeah, as much as I usually hate to hear players complain about ice-time, contract, etc., I wouldn't blame Lee for being pissed at the Sens. I hope something gets done with him - he deserves more than the Sens are giving him...
Yes it on NHL.com, search Da Costa and go into split stats, shows everything...
NHL.com
Busy at work
They dont keep stats for pre-season cuz it doesnt count, lol. Of course rookies will play all units, they wanna see what they can do.
Once the real season starts, unless the rookie is amazing, they usually dont play PK...like Da Costa isnt playing PK for Sens this year.
Simple really...
Brad Marchand - Patrice Bergeron - Tyler Seguin
Milan Lucic - David Krejci - Nathan Horton
I expect the Spezza line to handle either one pretty decent.. BUT the Sens Da Costa line is downright scary against either of these. I could see McLean going with the Smith line. Yeah they are technically the 3rd line.. but all 3 players are very good checkers -- moreso than the Da Costa line.
The bottom 6 on either team -- is a wash. I think the difference in this game is the 2nd line of the Bruins.
As for Shanahan, I can't for the life of me think of a reason why he did not penalize Wolski. He can't see what we can? Something is fishy. Maybe he dislikes Alfie... it has happened from that job position before.
Alternatively, Filatov-Da Costa-Butler and Foligno-Smith-C ondra would be another interesting combo imo.
Still think highly of Condra? like 20pts highly, lol. Dont forget our little bet...
Got to agree with Tooks here, some people jumped on the Condra bandwagon too fast. He's not hurting us but he's not doing anything more than what Daugavins brought to the table the last few games. But with that said he is only averaging 13 minutes a game. Thanks NHL.com.
yup my point exactly
not much more the kid can do
Point is Johne was so adamant that he wasnt a bottom 6 player, more of a top 6 playmaker!
have to agree,
he too is a rookie, don't forget that, and he is playing important minutes, and playing everywhere and every role well.
Kinda like Kelly was doing in his early years...No?
Even role players have to chip in sometimes. Zack Smith is a role player too and he sure initiates more then Condra does with his 13.50 minutes of TOI. I just think signing him to a one way contract was premature when you can have guys with two way contracts doing "his role". Good chemistry with Foligno ? Regin ? Smith ?? When did this happen ? please don't tell me last year cause he was in a fill the gap role.
See that's the issue that bothers me. BM trades Kelly and then Condra fills in and everyone labels him the next Kelly. Don't get me wrong, Kelly was solid for us for a few good seasons being loyal to a certain extent to players has also gotten us into trouble.
Kelly is a great comparison! Worst case scenario if we have too many of those types of players, we know they can fetch a decent return.
Condra's contract is not a problem imo. I respect that you don't share the same, but he is filling the role as good if not better then I expected before the season.
With respect to the chemistry, the Foligno-Regin-C ondra line was this season, and Condra has played some with Smith since Regin went down. That's all I'm referring to.
Condra is making only 600K right now,,,that is not a problem,
Kelly went on to win a cup and play a prominent role... I only hope Condra can do the same for us!
I have to disagree. A Sens Bar plays Sens games. It doesn't have to be their projection screen. Their policy is not to show Sens games on any tv screen. The MLSE owned Real Sports his happy to play multiple games in their venue. Grace O'Malley's WAS a Sens friendly place when they could profit off the Sens success. Now they won't even put a Sens game on a tv that's hidden away in a back corner. O'Malley's is a fail in terms of fan support for the Sens. CASE CLOSED.
Was out nost of the day.
The real reason for the riot, was an incident when Habs-Bruins got into a fight, and while Richard was being held by 2 linesmen, a Boston player was punching Richard.
He lost it, and punched one of the linesmen, to get back at Hal Lacoe of Boston. This was in 1955 season.
Clarence Campbell the NHL Commissioner banned the Rocket for balnce of 10 regular season games and all the playoff games.
During a game at the Forum between Habs-Wings,a riot started in the Forum, and spread to streets near the Forum.
Richard who was leading scorer in league lost the scoring championship to Bernard Boum-Boum Geoffrion.
LOL busy at work LOL what you call posting on senschirp work now!
I don't believe Johne or I said he would be a top 6 player. He is a smart, responsible player... who does make mistakes at times just like any other young player.
He appears to be good chemistry with Zack Smith. That won't translate into a lot of points... he's definitely not a sniper.. or a goal scorer.. just a responsible player... who has been playing pretty well lately.
He'll get PK time in Ottawa eventually but he's behind Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Smith, Winchester, Condra, Konopka etc on the depth chart for PK.
Heck even Foligno is playing PK this year and he never used to.
i believe the next game for zibanejad is vs silfverberg and the rest of brynas
official boxscore from game http://hockeyligan.se/elitserien-arena/37804/live/
http://chilisports.strikehost.info/
Sens 5-4 in OT
GO SENS GO
MAKE IT 7
GO SENS GO !!!
TOOKIE SUCKS !
Here you go guys
http://www.realtvsport.com/channel.php
QUICK COMEBACK GOAL BY OTTAWA. GOOD JOB BOYS!
Streaming/linking sites I used have deteriorated over the years and it's nice to get a reliable link on a site I frequent anyway.
We're attempting too many low percentage passes out there.
He's a star in the making that's for sure.
Streaming/linking sites I used have deteriorated over the years and it's nice to get a reliable link source I frequent anyway.
You don't need those last four words.
I see him jumping into the rush a lot more as his comfort level increases.
This season is infinitely more fun to watch than last.
Even Kuba has made some great plays. Patience with him is really helping increase his trade value.
LMAO its 2-2, thats kinda low scoring...
WE NEED A FIGHT !!!
And can Condra do that???
Wow what a shot!
Cowen is back man.. not sure what game you're watching. Ferraro said he's back on the bench and that it was just an equipment repair.
Ummmm who do you wanna fight? Lucic, Chara, Horton, Cambell???
Dont think we want to start the rough stuff with Boston and get our asses kicked, lol.
Oh, and say what you will about kuba's improved play, his play without the puck is horrible. Also phillips looks badd this game.
If it werent for anderson this would be a pretty lopsided game.
Dont know what Ferraro is smoking but he wasnt back, did you see him on the ice the last 8 minutes of the 2nd.....no.
He was. And is out there to start the third.
HE was entering onto the bench as Ferraro said that smart guy lol pay attention HATER
uhhh yeah i did.. maybe if you got your head out of your ass you would have noticed. Know what I'm saying my man?
Ouch SC burns me!!
Good one!
I understand you bruh!
And he scores!!
NOW RUNDBLAD !!!
We will, we simply cant keep this up, we're still a bottom 5 team IMO...and if we do keep it up then we clearly dont need Yakupov.
And as I type this, 2 goals have been scored, LOL
YAKUPOV!!!
In fact, with Seguin emerging as a top player, they may even be a better team than they were last year. The Bruins are good.
We're sure getting outhustled tonight.
I am blown away that we've managed to score 3 goals though.
Anderson's the only reason this game isn't 15-3.
I think we will end up finishing 4-6 last now that I have seen a bit more of the team... which to me sorta sucks, but I guess if we aren't worse than we have more quality pieces in place than I originally thought.
easy bud.. he's had one bad game
or you could pick whoever you want 1st.
Having a bad game and just not showing up are 2 different things ...
New blood is good for the Sens...Getting rid of Fisher and Kelly was a good thing, afterall last season they seemed to be just playing for pay checks. They are good players...but they had to go. This year just watching our season; the past 13 games have been awesome...we have lost big during some, but that happens to all teams. Really watching these guys develop and win 6 in a row...has gotta mean Jack Adams for MacLean if he keeps a positive winning percentage this season.....afte r all Edmonton Oilers who were last last year have had 2 back to back #1 picks and according to Sportsnet and TSN are the biggest suprise of the year. Hell no, they got Hall and RNH that is not suprising at all. Thus, we must prevail....Macl ean must win the Jack Adams.
Boston's second line - Lucic-Krejci-Horton
Ottawa's second line - Foligno-Da Costa-Butler
Now I know Foligno and Da Costa combined for out first two goals tonight, but in the big picture there is just no comparison.
Quoting SilverSurfer:
TRADE SPEZZA TRADE SPEZZA HE IS THE DEVIL
When you are talking about a playmaking centre, that relies on a skill game, it can look very similar. Not sure what you saw in this one that indicated he "didn't show up"
Yeah, after carrying us for 6+ games.
Not even if we trade up to get him?? lol i wish
Did you catch that lol Smith didnt get his ass kicked lol vs your boy Campbell
More hugging than anything else...
When you are talking about a playmaking centre, that relies on a skill game, it can look very similar. Not sure what you saw in this one that indicated he "didn't show up"
Invisible ... Being Lazy ..Not skating ..Bad passes ..sitting in the corner all night not infront of the net ... lol
How is the guy with the most talent on the this team just not show up ...
He didnt win either, kinda boring fight...and if you ask me, Campbell for Zach Smith...advanta ge Boston...
Sometimes it feels like comments like this one are written ahead of time, ready to be posted following a Sens loss. Completely out of touch.
Go SENS Go
If people are counting on Spezza to be at his best every night then you are expecting way too much.
This was a winning streak that showed those that believe this to be a basement team that the Sens are in fact much better than they think.
Sometimes it feels like comments like this one are written ahead of time, ready to be posted following a Sens loss. Completely out of touch.
I guess some Sens fans watch the game for what it is and some watch with blind hope ..Which one are you ?
Speeza's line ... 2 shots ..Minus 2 ..4 pims ..6 giveaways ..lost 12 faceoffs ... Total ice time 20:43
Thats a elite playmaking centre ?
Whos Completely out of touch ?
They were playing like a team that just couldn't afford to lose, and Ottawa were the victims for it. They hung in their longer than I thought they would, and credit to them (Anderson).
This team isn't as good as the six game winning streak, miracle comebacks would suggest, obviously. But they are pretty exciting to watch at least.
Now beat Montreal on Friday! I hate those guys.
Sometimes it feels like comments like this one are written ahead of time, ready to be posted following a Sens loss. Completely out of touch.
I guess some Sens fans watch the game for what it is and some watch with blind hope ..Which one are you ?
Speeza's line ... 2 shots ..Minus 2 ..4 pims ..6 giveaways ..lost 12 faceoffs ... Total ice time 20:43
Thats a elite playmaking centre ?
Whos Completely out of touch ?
Again, it was one game. Go look at his stat line from the previous 6 games and tell us he isn't an elite play-making center.
Sometimes it feels like comments like this one are written ahead of time, ready to be posted following a Sens loss. Completely out of touch.
I guess some Sens fans watch the game for what it is and some watch with blind hope ..Which one are you ?
Speeza's line ... 2 shots ..Minus 2 ..4 pims ..6 giveaways ..lost 12 faceoffs ... Total ice time 20:43
Thats a elite playmaking centre ?
Whos Completely out of touch ?
He struggled, no doubt. Certainly was not alone. Even "elite playmaking centres" (your words, not mine) have off nights. Just feels like Spezza is the default target after a loss.
Can't really argue...other than to say we easily could have lost 3-4 of the games and noone would have been at all shocked. We found ways to win, which from a development perspective is a good thing.
Sometimes it feels like comments like this one are written ahead of time, ready to be posted following a Sens loss. Completely out of touch.
I guess some Sens fans watch the game for what it is and some watch with blind hope ..Which one are you ?
Speeza's line ... 2 shots ..Minus 2 ..4 pims ..6 giveaways ..lost 12 faceoffs ... Total ice time 20:43
Thats a elite playmaking centre ?
Whos Completely out of touch ?
Some people will never criticize Spezza, no matter what. Simple as that.
Spezza can't afford to have off-nights (ie. take a night off). If he does, this teams loses. I don't think it's inappropriate to call him out when he does.
Certainly wasnt the only player that struggled I agree 100 percent but with Alfie out he needs too step up if he wants the C he needs too bring it nightly... He has way to much talent to just loaf around ...
you guys make me laugh again, one loss to the Stanley cup champions and you shit over everyone on the team.
We were put on the run plain and simple, we will learn from it.
Anderson was fantastic.
do you guys think we are going to win every game this year... get a grip.
That remains to be seen. I would agree, if not for the large number of miracle comebacks included in the winning streak.
The same can be said for Karlsson and Michalek. Spezza can't be the scapegoat for every loss. He played an awful game, but so did the rest of the team.
Filatov has been in every NHL coaches doghouse since he arrived in the league, there's a reason for that. I trust that Doug McLean knows what he's doing.
yeah damn you chirp...now I gotta refresh both!
As much as I agree with both of you, this doesn't just sit on Spezza. That whole line was off tonight.
As much as the Sens have been good offensively, the team has not been playing good defence. Tonight it finally caught up to them. Anderson has played well, but he hasn't had much support. The Stache will get them straightened out.
So what that they lost ... the true measure of this team will be in how they respond.
Karlsson didn't have a bad game. As for Michalek, he plays on the same line as Spezza, not surprising he would struggle if his playmaking Centre, future captain, is taking the night off.
But probably getting to involved in disecting this. Bottom line is, Boston wasn't going to be denied tonight. They were on a mission.
i disagree with this the above statement that just because jason has an off night we get to blame him cuz if he dont show up we lose. there is more than 1 player on this team if 1 person has an off night the others should show up
Spezza can't afford to have off-nights (ie. take a night off). If he does, this teams loses. I don't think it's inappropriate to call him out when he does.
i disagree with this the above statement that just because jason has an off night we get to blame him cuz if he dont show up we lose. there is more than 1 player on this team if 1 person has an off night the others should show up
During the winning streak Speeza showed up Nightly ..Tonight we lose Spezza is M.I.A ...Others did show up Folingo Da costa Neil Butler ..played there ass off
@ SilverSurfer
I do not agree with you on your negative comment regarding Spezza.
He has 15 points in 12 games, and we were in this game from the get go. Lead 1-0 and 2-1.
Tied it at 3-3 in third period, with goals from players not on his line.
In essnce, he is not an elite player yet, but will become
one very soon.
Our team is missing both Alfredsson and Regin, and for 12 games (excl Colorado and Philly ), he was the best player on the ice along with Michalek.
You Sir, are expecting too much from a rebuilding team,
and venting your frustration on Jason Spezza, who had a
below par performance in one game