Sounds like Zibanejad was a little disappointed but recognizes that this is what is best for him long term.
By sending Zibanejad back to the SEL, Ottawa voides triggering the first year on his entry level contract.
At no point did Zibanejad look overmatched physically at this level. For an 18 year old kid, he did a great job competing physically but just seemed to lack confidence with the puck. With Zibanejad gone, the Sens will be counting on one of the other guys to step up and assume the role of second line centre.
How do you feel about the move?
The only real negative I see is that this means we will most likely have 1 extra rookie next year when we're already expecting a couple to be joining the team.
Da Costa time!?!
thanks for teasing with a little of what you will bring to us some day. It may be hard to take today, but in couple years when we are back in the playoffs, and contending again, many of our future stars will be here to help YOU, and fight to play with YOU, as you cement yourself as the second line centre.
Go back to Sweden, get some home cooked meals, tear up the SEL, go the WJC, pound some of those other 18 year olds into submission, while we struggle for this year, deciding who can stay and who will go. Come back next year with that confidence that is bursting to come out,
We Sens fans believe you will be awesome for us one day soon!
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He wasn't a factor either way in reg. season games this year so the team's not losing much for the season.
as per Dan Seguin on twitter : Zibanejad the youngest Swede and youngest #Sens ever to play in the #NHL
He had already proved what he needed to prove to the management at the camp. He'll be a player for the sens at some point, it doesn't have to be now. Whilst this may hurt his development slightly, it isn't catastrophic.
This does free up a roster spot for somebody who we aren't sure about though. Butler, Regin when they are fit. Filatov when he comes back up from Bingo or Daugavins, Da Costa if they hang around. These are all people that need to prove something this year so we can see if they deserve to be in the medium/long term strategic planning for the organisation.
After the SEL season is over, I expect he'll come back to practice with the team maybe? Seems unlikley they'd end up burning a year off his deal then by playing him though.
Da Costa needs more ice time and better wingers to show what he's got IMO.
The SEL is one of the best leagues in the world. Seems the best excuse anyone can come up with is that it has international sized ice. That's hardly a hinderance considering the two things Zibanejad needs to work on are puck skills and skating. His strength and willingness to compete are fine.
He's an 18 year old kid, playing in Sweden won't hurt his development. It didn't hurt these players:
Daniel Alfredsson - 3 years
Peter Forsberg - 4 years
Mats Sundin - 1 year
Henrik Zetterberg - 2 years
Nicklas Lidstrom - 1 year (maybe 2)
The Sedins - 1 year
Erik Karlsson - 1 year
I could go on, but you get the point...
Filatovsson
Try 3 goals in 5 games ... that's the part that's impressive!
Agreed, Filatov needs to stay down in the AHL until his compete level increases to the point where he shows up every single night. Let him figure that out down there, instead of up here. It will be pretty obvious when he is ready.
Agreed, either way with him is fine, just don't keep him down the full year.
Filatov probably won't be the player we all expect him to be for another 2-4 years. Doesn't mean he needs to spend them all in the AHL though.
He had 2G 1A in his first game! 1G in the following 4 games!
Still a decent start, that's all I'm saying. I didn't dub him the next Crosby here. Just saying he's had some success, and at some point in the near future will warrant a call up.
Greening – Spezza – Michalek
Daugavins – Da Costa - Alfredsson (day to day)
Foligno – Z. Smith – Neil
Konopka – Winchester – Condra
Regin, Butler
And would you agree that looks like a bottom 3 line up?
When he finds 'consistant' success, he will get his call-up.
1 word, 2 letters ... NO
I think he'll be up before then. I think he's still years from being consistent because some opponents are still able to take advantage of his undeveloped frame.
If you were paid to make those decisions you'd also have a staff that would point out that it wasn't an option to send him to Bingo. It was NHL or SEL - nothing else.
If you're going to go based on points then does the 6 points in 7 games warrant a call up to you? That's the stats that Daugavins had before he was called up. My point is that unless you've actually seen his play you don't know if he's ready for a call up.
I know there is someone from Binghamton that visits this site. Maybe he/she can give some insight as to how Filatov has been playing in Bingo.
He's 21 not 16. That's pretty much his frame. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins has no problem CONISTANTLY COMPETING with a frame that is no bigger, and he's 3 years younger.
Filatov's problems aren't his size, it's his heart, and what's between his ears. The AHL is the perfect spot to solve those problems.
Not even close, his frame will be much more muscular and filled out at 25 then it is at 21. That's 1 reason many youngsters take till their mid 20s to really make it. Yes there are other parts to work on too, but his frame will change for the better.
RNH is small as hell, you'll see him struggle at some point because of it. Way too early to act like he's made it and will not struggle because of his size again.
Ya, that Gretzky kid sure filled out as he got older...
Doesn't always work that way my man. Doesn't always matter either.
RNH is an awesome hockey player, now. Watch an Oilers game or two. Amazing.
Going to have to agree to disagree. Very few professional sports players don't add to their frame between 21 and 25. The idea that you think he's pretty much at his best is crazy to me.
He really lit it up the first weekend, but has since cooled off. Kleinendorst stated he needs to be a bit more responsible on the defensive end, which I do have to agree with.
With Kuba not looking totally horrible is there a better chance of moving him.
Also, there was word in the of season about buffalo interest in oligno to play with his brother, well could there be any chance of getting his brother out of buffalo to play with his brother in Ottawa.
Just doing some brain storming.
Question: Where does 8th place in the East pick in the "Entry Draft".
MZ is gone but not forgotten!
Do this same exercise with Pittsburgh's lineup this season so far who are without Crosby and were without Malkin. Doesnt look all that much better on paper and yet, look where they sit? They did it last year too so stands to reason they will continue. What they have is a team first mentality and a top notch coaching staff that built a system the players are buying into. Boston won a cup without a bonafide superstar.
What cannot be argued is that every win gets us closer to being better not every loss, regardless of who is on the roster.
If your hoping that filatov becomes a responsible two way player, forget about it...Look how long it took Spezza to become somewhat responsible in his own end.
Wrong again, damn your on a hot streak!
Pitts has legit top 6 players, Malkin, Staal, Kunitz, Sullivan, James Neal and only shitty player is Dupuis, which he is better than most of our top 6...
You cant even compare the two teams, its not even close.
Please think before you post again...
And what does he have to show for it...ZILCH!
take malkin out he hasnt played. the lineup they ice does not reflect the record they have. That was my point and I'm right. take your own advice
and I wasnt comparing the two teams.
Please read before you post.
You're making this way too easy for Tookie - why did you choose to compare the Sens to Pittsburgh? I happen to think the Sens will be (marginally) better than Tookie does - the key word being marginally. If I was to choose a team whose lineup is similar to Ottawa, i would look to teams like Columbus, Winnipeg, Calgary...certa inly not the Penguins! if you're going to challenge Tookie, at least try to come with some ammunition...
Ok, fair enough. It remains to be seen however, whether MacLean can coax a similar effort out of a Sens team with far less top six talent than the Penguins have, evern without Crosby and Malkin. If your point was that good coaching can make a huge difference, than it's a point well taken.
Obviously I never said any such thing. I said that's "pretty much his frame", you said "he will be MUCH more muscular". Not every human-being becomes "much more muscular" between 21 and 25. It's crazy to me that you think they do. Will the guy get stronger? Ya, I'm sure he lifts a weight or two. If a guy was going to significantly change as far as strength and mass, he would of shown some indication of that between the ages of 18-21. He hasn't.
Once again, Filatov's problems aren't physcial. They're mental, meaning does he have the drive, courage, desire and confidence to succeed?
Wonder if theres a trading partner out there Turris Brassard ..I really cant see Murray staying with Da Costa Winnie at all
Not every human being plays professional sports. Glad you can keep it in context there. Any human being who works out properly will gain muscle, yes that is a fact! No Filatov has not done enough to this point to add muscle and yes he will add more. Also he has indeed changed and already added some since he was drafted.
He was ~171 when drafted, listed as 190 now, Will probably get to about 205 by his mid 20s.
Stay the course, promote from within. This is a rebuild. Unless you can steal a young player for nothing, obviously.
I'm with JQS. The only trades I am interested in would be some of our "disposable" players (i.e. Kuba, Gonchar etc) for young guys with major upside. And *SHOCK* there aren't many teams lining up to give us "future" for "past".
The system has plenty of talent either already at the NHL level or on the way. Sit back and watch the team play and work hard every night but don't worry about the standings for a year or possibly two.
Good you have nothing further to add, so just listen.
I never said he wouldn't get marginally bigger. I said that's "pretty much his frame". Second time I've had to repeat that... READ! Not everyone can bulk up as you are describing, that's just false.
Secondly, players come into the league at 18, and you always hear people saying wait a few years he'll be good then. Now with Filatov, it's been a few years, and you're saying wait till he's 25. That's when he'll be good, the magic number.
You seem to be on a mission to indicate that it's all physical with Filatov. That's the reason I brought up RNH, a player with a similar phycial build as Filatov. It's not all physical in sports, that's only part of the equation.
Hope you can understand what the hell I'm talking about. Just nod if you do...
If not, I guess we'll do that agree to disagree thing you mentioned earlier.
I did NOT state it's all physical, learn to read (see post #32). I said it's 1 of the things.
You said and I quote "If a guy was going to significantly change as far as strength and mass, he would of shown some indication of that between the ages of 18-21. He hasn't." He's already gained between 15-20 lbs.
Are you just trying to compete with Tookie for website douche here?
6`0 and 205lbs would allow him a lot more size and room to operate with. Simple as that. If you don't see that, get some glasses.
I thought you wanted to "FAIL4NAIL" you should be very delighted if they plunk Konopka at 2C.
I would keep Smith-Daug-Cond ra as a line. They obviously have played together in Bingo. They looked good last night..
Who moves into 2nd line centre -- for now probably DaCosta.
unfortunately that shoulder injury to Regin is looking worse and worse which sucks. Looks like it is DeCosta's chance to show he belongs.
It's a different league then when Alfie, Lidstrom, Sundin, Zetterberg entered the NHL. The players are bigger.. the game much faster.
It's a completely different game in the SEL than the NHL.
We have to remember his age as well. He may very well get bigger and will probably get stronger.. and that will definitely help.
This will give the Sens the chance to audition more of the prospects in Bingo. Then they will know who they can trade at the deadline for picks. The more picks next season.. the better.
Put Filatov on a scale, and we'll see if he weighs 190lbs right now. I call bullshit.
Let's say, for a second, that you are right, and he HAS gained 15-20lbs. Has that helped to improve his play in any noticeable way? No it hasn't done shit. What will 10 more pounds do? About the same as the previous hypothetical 15-20lbs. Next to nothing until...
He gets the mental part of his game together. See it's not a physical problem, it's what the player has inside, and between his ears. Until he figures that out, he won't do shit. You even said it yourself, he gained 15-20 pounds, but that didn't help at all. Now you're making up excuses that it's just another 10 pounds he needs. Listen to yourself...
Call me names all you want, if that makes you feel better. You're worse than Tookie if you ask me!
http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=3490
Alfie said he agreed with what the Sens did. The upcoming decision weighed heavily on Mika and it showed.
Alfie also said the teams' bad start did not help him either. Alfie said if the Sens had of gotten off to a better start it might be a different story.
You have not noticed any physical improvement in Filatov since he was drafted? He's much stronger on the puck already then he was when he first entered the league.
Physical maturity and Mental Maturity are both needed for a player to reach their potential in the NHL.
Read what you've been arguing. I said it was something he needs to improve and you're acting like I think it's the only thing. Yes that's being a douche. You're arguing parts of my comments and ignoring the rest. As I said he's already grown, and he will grow more and the size will only help him with his game at the next level.
Not sure why you'd call his published weight bullshit, but I guess you needed it to be able to support your argument that he's the same size.
Please show which post I said this in? I NEVER said it.
I give you the stats that actually disprove what you were saying about his size and you call bullshit as your excuse. Very nice, quality work you do over there.
I think his published weight is bullshit, because I see him on the ice, and can compare him to other players. He's nowhere near their size.
My main point is it's more mental than physical with him. I'll compromise with you in this way:
If he does what you say, and he does what I say. He should be good to go. The only difference is my way gets him to the NHL before he's 25.
You said in post #56 that he gained 15-20lbs. What I meant by your quoted comment was 'well in that case it didn't help at all'.
You don't think NHL media guides lie about heights and weight? Pro sports media guides in general? Come on man.
The real funny thing is, that by supposedly disproving my point, you have actually disproved yours.
One of my first posts in this forum was "Filatov probably won't be the player we all expect him to be for another 2-4 years. Doesn't mean he needs to spend them all in the AHL though."
Again, I never stated he has to reach full physical or mental maturity to make it back to the NHL. 25 is mid 20s, I could say mid 20s if you have so much problem with 1 number, and I'm pretty sure I used both above.
I expect him back in the lineup at some point this year, as I stated.
If going from 190 to 205 by adding muscle isn't what you consider much more, then that's fine, but don't waste you're day harping on me because you don't like the definition of a word I used.
I think you are starting to come around.
I said he gained that, not that it didn't make a difference. That is actually the best example of how you continue to misquote what I say. I'm almost 100% sure you're actually arguing with me over something you've completely misunderstood what my opinion was.
I think the size will help him stick in the NHL and the mental maturity will help him excel.
He needs both and I never denied that, but getting bigger and reaching your adult body happens to most in their mid 20s. Even if you don't believe 190 currently you have to see he's bigger then when he started and will be bigger in a few years.
Come around? You've been misquoting me all day. That has been my problem with you. You do realize that's where the problem lies right? You misquoted me several times and then said Filatov has not changed physically yet and that it hasn't affected his game.
There's nothing to come around to, but if somehow you're are understanding my position better now, then ya it's good.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZ !
I have not misquoted you several time, if any. If you say one thing in one post, then some other stuff in later posts. It's not a misquote, it's just not going back to stuff you are no longer talking about while making your points.
You have 'misquoted' me just as many times if that's the case, if not just totally made up stuff.
I think I've been pretty consistant with what I am stating. You are just mad because I'm making sense, and you don't want to admit it.
Happens all the time, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't let it get to you.
http://bloggar-mu.norran.se/davidrundblad/files/2011/10/IMG_00072.jpg
I like Mika I think he has top 9 skill they want him to go back and work to get that top 6 skill >>but for this season we need a number 2 centre promote within who ? Da costa he has been playing 4th line mins for the past 2 games ...We need too add a young talented 2C that can help in are rebuild and the future
But yes Fail4Nail !!!
Read it from top to bottom. Every time I quoted u was word for word. If you meant something different then what your words say, I can't help you with that.
I've shown you each time you misquoted what I said. So all added up you make zero sense. But hey, if you feel vindicated enjoy it!
Haha just posted that four posts up.
I agree that it is a weak lineup but with the way P-Mac coaches i cant see this team being a bottom feeder. Especially if Anderson plays the way he did against carolina.
Myabe Galchenyuk will fall to us at the 8th to 15th pick. Also we will have some good trade bait at the deadline to acquire more picks but its to early to think draft.
I think you are wrong about Gonchar being disposable, he has had a lot to do with our wins as of late, we do not have Rundblad up to speed to replace him.
Gonchar is getting it done and has been solid and giving 100%, the only way anyone would want to see him gone was if you want us to suck this year.
Karlsson Gonchar are deadly on the PP, no other D we have you can say that about (yet)
At some point he may be disposable but not this year so far.
hahaha fair enough, i should just learn/try to remember to refresh the comment section before posting.
Tough luck for Regin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYHubHHxWAY
I was going to ask that question Chirp. I had not heard anything since they said he would have more tests. Bad luck if he misses the rest of the season in his contract year, I believe, correct. Bad for the Sens... not a lot of experience at 2nd line centre. God forbid.. what happens if Spezza gets injured? Things could get real ugly.
Thanks Andropov.. that crosscheck to Regin's left shoulder -- you knew exacly what you were aiming at.
Mtl beating Philly 3 - 1.
Good tune. I like it
We have only six NHL players on the Ottawa Senators for the 2011-2012 Season and it does not sound like they are in any hurray to bring in any more players via trade.
I’m just thinking of them six players and even Maclean I would bet they feel Murray gave up on the team already, we will see in the coming games.
Six players ????
He's disposable simply because he won't be around for our playoff run in a couple of years. I don't care about winning anything this year or next - I only care about building a team that can push in the playoffs for 10 years or so.
1.Bobby Butler, Stefan Neason, 2013 1st FOR Matt Duchene
Duchene is struggling and the new coaching staff doesn't seem to like him. They may want to move him and keep up with the rebuild with 3 attractive pieces
2.Chris Neil, Brian Lee, Patrick Wierchoch, 2012 2nd, 2012 3rd FOR Shea Webber
Nashville is on a budget and would love young D and Fisher's best friend who has turned up his play and would be very valuable in a trade
This years lines could look like...
Greening-Spezza-Michalek->because it works
Duchene-DaCosta-Alfredsson-> speed/skill/poise
Foligno-Z.Smith-Condra->grindy line
Winchester-Konopka-Daugavins->Grindy line#2
Regin shoulder?
Webber-Gonchar
Phillips-Cowen
Rundblad-Karlsson
Next year...
Duchene-Spezza-Yakupov?
Michalek-DaCosta-Alfredsson
Foligno-Zibanejad-Silverberg
Greening-Z.Smith-Condra
Stone, Puempel, Petterson, competing for 2RW
LOL never will happen but throw in Foligno just so he can get off this team
Props to Elliot on his amazing start this season. Although, he did have some horrible games for the Sens, we can all agree that he's a good person who deserves these good fortunes. He was nothing but a team player off the ice and did everything we asked him too at the time (minus letting in tons of goals on a bad team). Hell, he even had long stretches of great play as a Sen. Good luck Brian.
I'm still expecting Da Costa to break-out any game now. He has too much skill.
Anyone that thinks that our team this year, which is CLEARLY not a contender, is going to go out and trade away a bunch of our promising prospects like a Noesen/Wiercioc h/Butler or anyone else for that matter to bring in some half-assed immediate help to climb slightly in the standings and help screw up our draft this year and our rebuild.... you're crazy.
I want to see our current line-up do well and compete, but still hopefully be in the running for a lottery pick, but to trade prospects for help at this point? Come'on man!
About time you chirp in on this Chirp !!!!!!
These 2 posters, are arguing about a player that has had problems, and continues to have them as we speak.
He is Russian, and that says it all !
Hope the mud slinging is now over and done !!
LOL @ thinking the Avs are getting rid of Duchene.
ok Guys agreed that we have a hole at 2nd line centre, but that was the case all summer, and Murray stated publically that we would not sign a free agent, b/c the org wants to see what we have already in our system. So trading now for one is further removed from that position.
We all agree this is a rebuild, and with that we need to give the likes of DaCosta a chance to either take it and run, or fail, and then move others up to see if they can succeed in that position (hopefully Regin comes back soon).
But to go out and trade for a 2nd line centre, for only one year does not add up (unless we unload Gonc or Kuba:)
I do believe givin the chance DaCosta will have some success, especially if he plays with Alfie.
Time will tell
Bingo! People just cant comprehend the situation we are in, they just want to be like Chicago, Pitts and WSH without going through the pain.
Wake up people, we have a solid chance of getting some elite level players here...
So I see you've finally found the right side of the fence!
Welcome!
are there any other teams loaded in D like us
You should wake up your little fantasy rebuild is not going to happen...
I've been on board with that since Day 1. Do the best we can with the roster we can and chances are we'll be in a good draft position by the end of the year.
I'm different from you because I still cheer for this team to win every game.
I'm different from the KoolAid drinkers because I have reasonable expectations for this squad and would be very disappointed to see us mortgage the future to bring in help for this year. Even at 2C we have a lot of decent enough candidates that can battle it out. Let this team battle and see what happens.
Fair enough, atleast your level headed about it, and not just balls out like the few self-titled "real fans" on here.
I agree with you that just by playing games with this roster we will be in great shape come the draft, no doubt.
So arguing about a player that has problems is bad, but being racist about the same player is Ok. Good to know.
Butler, Noesen, 2013 1st is not garbage in the least bit
Neither is Neil, Lee, Weirchoch, 2012 2nd and 3rd
Both those packages could get a solid return depending on the other teams wants/needs.
Neil is very liked by GM's around the league. Lee could be a top 4 defenceman on most teams. Weirchoch is a solid prospect with many upsides.
Butler was a very higbly touted NCAA player who most teams tried to sign. Noesen was a 21st overall pick therefore very valuable. And obviously any of ottawas 1st for the next 3 or 4 years have serious value to them. As do 2nd and 3rd's
People should know that when Spartan starts bandying about BS like "I think you are starting to come around." or "I'll take that as a win" that you may as well stop wasting oxygen arguing with them. Pointlessness.
Does this mean, that Regin will have surgery again, for the same shoulder ??
He was getting shelled behind our seive of a D
I agree that the argument was circular and completely tiresome but chastising them in a post, as Rockin Robert did, and then in the next sentence making a racist comment is pretty bizarre.
This was definitely the catalyst for the problem. It got to the point where he was shell-shocked and had no chance for a "break" and the rest is history.
Other than when things went downhill, I always liked Elliot as a backup for us, and I hope he sees continued success this season.
Toronto has extra dmen, but they have a Kuba named Komisarek. Cody Franson can't crack their roster due to the surplus of bodies they have.
@The Apostle,
If somehow you are saying that because of what I said about Russian playersis "racist", I beg to explain what I mean:
Canadian hockey players grow up wishing to win a Stanley Cup
while Russian hockey players do not care about winning a Cup !
They play stricly to make money( Yashin, Kovalev etc.......
That's why I said "He is Russian, that says it all "
If not directed at Snoopy Senior, I felt compelled to back up what I said !
Rockin Robert
I was convinced that much of the bickering would stop once the regular season started, but that's obviously not the case haha! Unless it get's out of hand though at least it provides some conversational fodder during lulls in the day.
I don't have a strong stance on the "Russian" statement either way. Frankly it is a generalization that many of their own players caused, as a franchise we had one of the worst burns by Yashin, and our management and scouting has all but gone on the record admitting we tend to avoid these players when drafting...
What else can you say? I agree with the "generalization " but I do not see it applying to the Filatov situation in any way, so that I agree is totally unfair.
You are probably right regarding the specifc players you have just cited but making a sweeping generalisation about a group of people based solely on perceived traits relating to their nationality or ethnicity is racist. Glad you agree.
That is fantastic news...but what worries me is that b/c he is in a contract year, and could not afford to miss this year under any circumstances, did he go "find" a doctor that would clear him without the surgery?
I know I am in the minority, but I really believe if this guy can stay healthy he can be a real player in this league.
hope he is back healthy real soon
Agreed, Elliot was a decent backup, and seemed a good guy generally, he just never should have been a starter.
Of course you can argue that Elliot's inconsistent play caused our D to try too hard and therefore the D-zone coverage to break down, but in the end it was the same result, he got repeatedly hung out to dry.
You are probably right regarding the specifc players you have just cited but making a sweeping generalisation about a group of people based solely on perceived traits relating to their nationality or ethnicity is racist. Glad you agree.[/quot
Glad to see that RUSHRLD and The Apostle understand that I am a "realist" and not "racist". That'what I meant, and we still do not know what makes Filatov click .
Hope he wants to play hard and wants a Stanley Cup more than $$$
Sorry but your being ignorant, not all Russians think that way, Fedorov, Larionov, Malkin, hell even Gonchar before coming to Ottawa... just to name a few are Russians that gave/give it they're all.
In Gonchar's case he's just old and washed up now.
Say what you will, but the fact is that if you took two identical player prospects, one Russian and one Canadian, every GM in the league would take the Canadian except for maybe the Wang influenced Isles. This may be more due to players holding out in the KHL than a history of players with bad attitudes, but still it is what it is.
In all fairness you should have signed this post as such:
Sincerely Tookie, aka the 24x7x365 Yakupov obsessed guy.
If it ever comes to that and if maybe things do not pan out, let's hope he can also net us a Chara/Spezza type return/ LOL.
That Ovechkin guy seems to play quite hard as well.
Sigh...How many times does he have to be inj for you to realize he is injury prone and will NEVER amount to anything. He's 25 almost 26 and hasnt shown anything to warrant a contract by the Sens.
I say good bye to you Mr Regin...
Hey Tookie,
Read my previous post #130 !
Rockin Robert
Yeah sorry I was just naming Cup winners...Ovie is a beast and might just be his turn this year!!
Very different players but it's great that they are both in the league at the same time and it's a shame that they aren't in direct competition more often.
I prefer watching Ovechkin, but you can't argue with what Crosby has already acheived.
it's natural to be on the extreme with your own players, both when you like them and when you dislike them
but sometimes, you've just got to let people go. Regin has not proved he can give us anything that we don't have elsewhere (and probably better) in the system.
His terrible year last year plus his injury problems mean giving him any kind of medium term deal is very risky. If he goes on to prove the senators wrong elsewhere then good on him. I doubt regin is a senator 2 years from now, he's not done enough to show the management he should be part of the future of this team.
in any sport the great players always seem to have space and time, that was what struck me the first time I saw Crosby at SBP.
sigh...fart :)
again with the kick Regin when he is down comments.
so based on your reasoning, you must have been part of the
"what a bad trade for Michalek" after he had knee surgery
"lets ged rid of him" clan,
and no I am not saying you said this, but many were in the camp, that he was not that good and injury prone
well I for one am very glad we kept Michalek,
and is proving to be a top line NHLer,
just like I hope Regin can come back to when healthy.
Get back soon Regin and prove Tookie wrong...again :)
Remember they also did the same thing with Cowen... Sent him back twice... but Mika will be in Ottawa next year... that's a given.
I don't know.. I hate seeing a re-building team give up draft picks or prospects. That's the Muckler way. Look where that got us. That 2013 - 1st round.. could be Nathan MacKinnon... who may be the final piece to the re-build.