Sunday, 16 October 2011 10:32

Sens Fall to 1-4-0

The effort was certainly better than what we saw against the Avalanche.

But in the end the result was the same, as the Ottawa Senators dropped a 2-1 decision in Washington last night.  Peter Regin was the lone goal scorer for the Sens, who fell to 1-4-0 with the loss.

On paper this one looked like it could get ugly, especially after the debacle against the Avalanche.  Credit to Paul MacLean's side though as they tightened up and played a much better game against the high powered Caps team.

Had it not been for the at times spectacular goaltending of Tomas Vokoun, Ottawa would have earned a point in this one.  He made massive saves off of Michalek and Alfredsson in the third period to preserve the one goal lead.

One big positive from this one, the play of rookie defenceman David Rundblad.  He picked up an assist on Regin's goal and was one of the better players on the ice for the Senators.  Rundblad logged 17:16 and seemed to get more comfortable as the game moved along.

Defenceman Sergei Gonchar went down with what the team is calling a bruised foot.  His status will be reevaluated later today.

Ottawa has the day off today and will return to the ice on Monday morning in preparation for a string of three straight home games against the Flyers, Jets and Blue Jackets.

  • Had a few people asking me about a rumoured deal between Edmonton and Ottawa.  I asked around and nobody I spoke with has heard anything about this rumoured swap.  Will certainly update if that changes.
  • Nothing new on the Columbus/Ottawa rumours from earlier in the week either.  As I mentioned, there was some preliminary tire kicking but nothing more than that.
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0 #1 Tcharger 2011-10-16 09:49
any news on who is likely to stay past the 9 game try out?
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+1 #2 11PalladiumDrive 2011-10-16 09:50
Happy to see Rundblad get some confidence over the game.

It's going to be a long season so we may as well get some small +'s out of these type of losses.
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+1 #3 SensChirp 2011-10-16 09:51
Quoting Tcharger:
any news on who is likely to stay past the 9 game try out?

Zibanejad was under 10 minutes last night. Can't see him sticking around with those kind of minutes.
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+7 #4 senskarlsson57 2011-10-16 09:57
Anyone else loving the play of regin this season? Not just the goal last night, but it looks like he came hungry to prove that he can get back to his form from two years ago!
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+1 #5 Johne 2011-10-16 10:08
I think its time with Gonchar on the shelf to put Kuba on the bench too. It's time to minimize turnovers and help out Anderson/Auld defensively. Was nice to see us in this one for the most part.
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0 #6 stevrock 2011-10-16 10:19
The Oilers should move out RNH. He's been too solid for them to keep.
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0 #7 Johne 2011-10-16 10:25
http://twitter.com/dtolensky - Tough to judge exactly where the Leafs are at right now as their three wins have come at home against teams that are a combined 3-9-1.
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+3 #8 Mat 2011-10-16 10:33
Last night's effort is what I'm hoping for from this team on consistant basis this year. I doesn't always have to end up in wins for me to be happy.

But making it close games on the basis of effort and team play, that's what's going to build the confidence of this group moving forward.

Go SENS GO!
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+2 #9 Ry-man 2011-10-16 10:35
Did anyone else notice that Karlsson appeared to be giving it all he had defensively against Ovechkin last night, and it appeared to pay off? He did a good job limiting his chances and keeping him to the outside. It seemed like he had another gear all of a sudden when playing against a superstar, that I haven't seen from him yet this season. It kind of makes me wonder if the coaching staff is going to get on him to try to get that out of him on every shift, against every type of player... because that would be nice.
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+4 #10 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-10-16 10:36
GONCHAR INJURED! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO! OUR PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED!

Now for the love of God play Brian Lee
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-1 #11 Jimmy Bob 2011-10-16 10:36
Quoting Tcharger:
any news on who is likely to stay past the 9 game try out?


There is only 1 player on a 9-game tryout: Zibaneja. The rest are not.
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0 #12 Tcharger 2011-10-16 10:50
Quoting Jimmy Bob:
Quoting Tcharger:
any news on who is likely to stay past the 9 game try out?


There is only 1 player on a 9-game tryout: Zibaneja. The rest are not.


not so sure about that.
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-3 #13 Andrews Theory 2011-10-16 10:59
to Karlssons credit, maclean heas been giving him a ton of defensive end starts and he seems to comimg along quite well.

i'll be the first to admit that I've really only viewed him as a one dimensional player but I'd be more than happy tp have hime provr me wrong and de elop along the lines of a lidstrom with great positioning and stick work. clearly, his offensive game is already on track.
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0 #14 Jimmy Bob 2011-10-16 11:01
Quoting Tcharger:
Quoting Jimmy Bob:
Quoting Tcharger:
any news on who is likely to stay past the 9 game try out?


There is only 1 player on a 9-game tryout: Zibaneja. The rest are not.


not so sure about that.


Um, be sure about it, because it's true. Zibanejad is the only player on a 9-game tryout. There is no 9-game limit for Rundblad, or Da Costa, or Cowen.

I don't understand why people can't comprehend basic NHL rules.
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+2 #15 Tcharger 2011-10-16 11:20
Yeah basic seeing as NOONE explains that the same way/everyone interprets it differently.

Keep picking retarded fights champ
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0 #16 Jimmy Bob 2011-10-16 11:25
What? It's basic facts.

Zibanejad is on a nine-game tryout because if he stays here past 9 games, his ELC kicks in.

ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS do not need a 9-game tryout because they will be playing in Ottawa or Binghamton. Their contracts are counting no matter what. They do not have junior eligibility or the ability to have their contracts slide.

In Rundblad's case, he already had a year burned off his ELC because of playing in Sweden last year.

I repeat, there is only 1 player on a ELC: Zibanejad.

The typical Ottawa fan is bone-headed so I am not surprised by your lack of fundamental CBA knowledge.
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0 #17 Ry-man 2011-10-16 11:57
Agreed about Karlsson. I thought he played a solid game last night, and I hope he can keep building on it!
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0 #18 primetime83 2011-10-16 12:04
Quoting Jimmy Bob:
What? It's basic facts.

Zibanejad is on a nine-game tryout because if he stays here past 9 games, his ELC kicks in.

ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS do not need a 9-game tryout because they will be playing in Ottawa or Binghamton. Their contracts are counting no matter what. They do not have junior eligibility or the ability to have their contracts slide.

In Rundblad's case, he already had a year burned off his ELC because of playing in Sweden last year.

I repeat, there is only 1 player on a ELC: Zibanejad.

The typical Ottawa fan is bone-headed so I am not surprised by your lack of fundamental CBA knowledge.


Well said!
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+4 #19 conservativeHippie 2011-10-16 12:08
Wow...so much hostility in such a small man Jimmy bob...
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+1 #20 Tcharger 2011-10-16 12:34
nice to are my response that wasn't even aggressive/rude was deleted but that stays.

Runblad was the one and only one I wasn't certain of.

Jimmy Bob must be a born and raised ottawa civil servant...happi est breed from the happiest place on earth.
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0 #21 McLovin 2011-10-16 12:52
Zbad should go back...get him away from the losing atmosphere

If Brian Lee doesn't get in the lineup I'm gonna lose my sh*t they're killing this kid.
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0 #22 jabbott64 2011-10-16 13:02
A little off topic, but I was wondering if there's anywhere to order the Heritage jerseys online yet? Seems like you can only get them in person at the Sens Store.
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-11 #23 Tookie 2011-10-16 13:27
Quoting jabbott64:
A little off topic, but I was wondering if there's anywhere to order the Heritage jerseys online yet? Seems like you can only get them in person at the Sens Store.


Why would you want to affiliate yourself with a 7-1 blowout jersey...You'll be the laughing stock of your friends...

"Hey didnt Ottawa get killed wearing that jersey, LOL"
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-3 #24 Tookie 2011-10-16 13:34
This season is looking good for the 1st overall selection!!!
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0 #25 cj-sensfan 2011-10-16 13:49
Last night was entertaining and fun to watch just not the result we all wanted. It was nice to see Rundblad more confortable with the puck offensively. Still some concerns on the defensive side but he is gaining confidence. Karlsson played very well against OV. Another positive. Ottawa would of won last night if not for the play of Vokoun. Nice bounce back game after the Colorado game. Kodos to the coaching staff and the players.
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-2 #26 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-10-16 13:56
Edm rumor update


Young D men for past 1st rd pick ...
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+3 #27 Sandy 2011-10-16 13:58
What really pissed me off.. was the non-head shot call by the refs on the Wash player hitting Greening. (Can't remember who the player was). Blindside & to the head... but nothing appears to be coming out about it.
The refs did not even call a penalty.
So I guess the GM's & owners complained to Bettman about Shanahan giving out too many suspensions.
McArthur of the Leafs did the same type of hit and got 2 games... appears nothing is coming out of the Greening hit.
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0 #28 Sandy 2011-10-16 14:01
Quoting Nizzy:
Edm rumor update


Young D men for past 1st rd pick ...



So Lee or Foligno?-- Where did this come from? EK?
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0 #29 Tcharger 2011-10-16 14:09
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Nizzy:
Edm rumor update


Young D men for past 1st rd pick ...



So Lee or Foligno?-- Where did this come from? EK?


yep...I assume he is implying Karlsson for 1 of their recent top picks.
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+2 #30 senswillkickass 2011-10-16 14:17
any steams for binghamton game?
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+1 #31 TyrantRoarrrrr 2011-10-16 14:34
Zibanejad is a solid enough hockey player to learn the game at the NHL level now. The question is really whether the Sens organization wants him around for looks like it will be a tough season. Probably better for him to play 20 minutes a night in the SEL on a winning team.

The other reality is that sending him back will open up a roster spot for a guy like Filatov to figure out whether he can stick this year. Given his first game in the AHL he should probably be the first call-up. Petersson is another guy that will probably get a look at some point along with maybe Hoffman.

One thing is clear you can see the team struggles much more to win games when the pressure is actually on. These games in October and November will mean a lot more than the winning streak down the stretch of an already dead season last year.
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+1 #32 MoeDozer 2011-10-16 15:27
bingo vs albany

game tied at 1-1. filatov scored. devils out shooting us 12-6 5mins left in 1st
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+1 #33 senswillkickass 2011-10-16 15:54
Quoting MoeDozer:
bingo vs albany

game tied at 1-1. filatov scored. devils out shooting us 12-6 5mins left in 1st


could you help me out with a stream ?

Thank you!
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0 #34 MoeDozer 2011-10-16 16:12
Quoting senswillkickass:
Quoting MoeDozer:
bingo vs albany

game tied at 1-1. filatov scored. devils out shooting us 12-6 5mins left in 1st


could you help me out with a stream ?

Thank you!


sorry bud, im still digging arround for a stream. the regular 3 or 4 guys that stream that games arent streaming it tonight for whatever reason. i got those stats from the team website's boxscore. ill post up a link if i find anything
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+1 #35 Mitchell 2011-10-16 17:06
This year has become more interesting in recent memory just because of the early trade rumours the log jam in D giving our first overall pick a tryout. I wonder what's to come of Matt Carkner, Jesse Winchester and if we will be holding on to Zenon Konopka. The year is young and so much left to unfold.

So far this year with the acception of the Avs game we have finally been able to get more shots on net, have the puck a lot more and use players to there advatages and not make them out to what there not. Great Job MacLean

Spelling mistakes brought to you by my iPhone
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0 #36 57gord 2011-10-16 17:20
Bingo wins 4-2
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+1 #37 MoeDozer 2011-10-16 17:22
filatov ended up with 1g +2 and 4 shots.
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-9 #38 Tookie 2011-10-16 17:45
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yep...I assume he is implying Karlsson for 1 of their recent top picks.
I would do Karlsson for Eberle in a heartbeat!

I dont thikn EDM would do it tho...
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+5 #39 jakester 2011-10-16 17:56
I wouldn't trade Karlsson for Eberle - did u watch Karlsson yesterday
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0 #40 N8ball85 2011-10-16 18:18
The other site is offering Omark and a 1st for rundblad ! Any takers ? I'm not so
Quick to give him up!
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0 #41 N8ball85 2011-10-16 18:21
We need to fail for nail not trade for their crap! Jk but seriously this kid is sick has 25 PTS in 9 fckn games first in O
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0 #42 N8ball85 2011-10-16 18:21
We need to fail for nail not trade for their crap! Jk but seriously this kid is sick has 25 PTS in 9 fckn games first in O
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+3 #43 Senta Claus 2011-10-16 18:52
Silly rumours - Karlsson and Runblad should not be going anywhere!
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0 #44 Mitchell 2011-10-16 18:52
I know greening didn't leave the game and played thru it but any word of a suspenion for that shot to the head that he received? If da costa gets hit and says it's his fault fine but clearly that shot on greening was to obvious. Cmon shannahan don't be bias now
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0 #45 db7568 2011-10-16 18:59
We all know that EDM is looking for Defence prospects. Im not too up on the percieved value of EDM's FWD prospects, but would the following sound reasonable at all?

To EDM: Wiercioch, 2012 2ns RND Pick

To OTT: Lindus Omark

Ill tell you what trade I would be pushing so hard for though...

To EDM: Gonchar, Kuba

To OTT: Sutton

I was close to putting Phillips on there to, but he has started to come around abit. At least in this trade, we would get a veteran D-man who will ACTUALLY HIT!!!!
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+1 #46 zachpraisethesweedes 2011-10-16 19:51
Karlsson for Eberle is laughable. Edmonton would have to throw in at least a 1st. Even then Bryan Murray wouldn't do it. Karlsson is extremely valueble right now. He had done nothing but dramatically improve every year he's been in the league. You just don't trade players like that.

I don't want Sutton. He's old and can't skate in Maclean's speed system. I agree it would be great to trade either Kuba or Gonchar away but Ottawa shouldn't take anything but prospects or draft picks in return. There are a number of teams that want a defenceman, and when trade deadline comes along and teams only have to pay 1/3 of the contract they will be much more willing to take on guys like Gonch and Kuba.

Wierchoch and 2nd for Omark I like! We can give Omark ice time and become a solid player to play with Zib or Silverberg. And Wierch isn't looking too good lately. But I just don't see Edm doing it because the want a nhl ready Dman too
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+2 #47 fghtffyourdmns 2011-10-16 19:52
Karlsson and Rundblad won't be going anywhere. Stop falling into the troll of Eklund.
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0 #48 PraiseAlfie84 2011-10-16 20:05
Quoting N8ball85:
We need to fail for nail not trade for their crap! Jk but seriously this kid is sick has 25 PTS in 9 fckn games first in O


Last season's motto: Tank Army (and to some extent Tank Nation)

This season's motto: Fail for Nail

At least they are getting better! lol
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0 #49 Sandy 2011-10-16 20:37
Quoting Mitchell:
I know greening didn't leave the game and played thru it but any word of a suspenion for that shot to the head that he received? If da costa gets hit and says it's his fault fine but clearly that shot on greening was to obvious. Cmon shannahan don't be bias now


The shot Greening took was like the McArthur hit on Abdelkader (sp?) and he got two games for it.
Since we have heard nothing.. I assume there is nothing.

I guess the GM's and/or owners got to Shanahan and told him to back off the suspensions.
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0 #50 Sandy 2011-10-16 20:40
I know this is a hockey site.. but RIP - Dan Wheldon. My condolences to his family. That was the most horrific crash in auto racing I have ever seen.

Also to Earl McRae.. who past away suddenly yesterday - my condolences to his family as well.
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0 #51 ZachPraisetheSwedes 2011-10-16 20:41
Fail for Nail!!!
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0 #52 N8ball85 2011-10-16 20:48
I was actually thinking somewhat the same kind of deal with weircoch and omark
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0 #53 N8ball85 2011-10-16 20:52
Fail for nail yeah baby next big ticket mark my words plus stone leading whl puemple in top 15 ohl pageau on his way to top of q were looking good and let's not forget about filatov and his sick talent anyone who gives up on this 21 yr old is silly he will be great guaranteed
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0 #54 Senta Claus 2011-10-16 21:00
Too early for "Fail for Nail", boys...Plus, the Sens don't groove on Russians in the first round anymore!
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0 #55 PraiseAlfie84 2011-10-16 21:02
Quoting Senta Claus:
Too early for "Fail for Nail", boys...Plus, the Sens don't groove on Russians in the first round anymore!



He's a Turk, not Russian....
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0 #56 Senta Claus 2011-10-16 21:07
"Nail Yakupov (born October 6, 1993) is a Russian junior ice hockey right winger currently playing for the Sarnia Sting of the Ontario Hockey League (OHL).

Besides being the consensus early favorite for top pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft, Yakupov, an ethnic Tatar, also represents the first potential breakout hockey star from predominantly Muslim Tatarstan, a federal subject of Russia located 500 miles east of Moscow."

Still seems kind of Russian to me...
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+1 #57 Senta Claus 2011-10-16 21:13
...I think the Senators should focus on drafting Filip Forsberg - he's a much better fit for our team...
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0 #58 MoeDozer 2011-10-16 21:22
Quoting Senta Claus:
Too early for "Fail for Nail", boys...Plus, the Sens don't groove on Russians in the first round anymore!

what first round russians have we drafted? yashin and volchenkov. i would draft either one of them again any day.
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0 #59 PraiseAlfie84 2011-10-16 21:37
Quoting Senta Claus:
"Nail Yakupov (born October 6, 1993) is a Russian junior ice hockey right winger currently playing for the Sarnia Sting of the Ontario Hockey League (OHL).

Besides being the consensus early favorite for top pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft, Yakupov, an ethnic Tatar, also represents the first potential breakout hockey star from predominantly Muslim Tatarstan, a federal subject of Russia located 500 miles east of Moscow."

Still seems kind of Russian to me...


You are right, I had a few people tell me he was a Turk but upon looking into it he was born in Nizhnekamsk, Russia...

Still though, don't count out drafting a Russian. Our track record is horrible with them but something will work out once...Right? Haha
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0 #60 PraiseAlfie84 2011-10-16 21:39
Quoting Sandy:
I know this is a hockey site.. but RIP - Dan Wheldon. My condolences to his family. That was the most horrific crash in auto racing I have ever seen.

Also to Earl McRae.. who past away suddenly yesterday - my condolences to his family as well.


I'm working at CTV sports right now and watched it live, what a horrific crash! Looked brutal :P
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+1 #61 MoeDozer 2011-10-16 21:45
altho yashin had his problems here, you cant ignore the fact that he put 2 years of solid stats (94 points in 88points)
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+1 #62 N8ball85 2011-10-16 21:49
Anyone who thinks we shouldn't draft yakupov is a clown and knows nothing watch the kid play folio forsberg is not even compairable sorry yakupov is going number 1 guaranteed watch some sarmia games and he is a Russian so is Malkin so is Ovie and it ain't too
Early we know what we are ... Fail for nail boys
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-2 #63 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-10-16 21:57
FAIL FOR NAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!
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+1 #64 N8ball85 2011-10-16 22:09
Quoting Nizzy:
FAIL FOR NAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!

Atleast some of us know the game mediocrity is for the leafs we need to suffer to become great fail for nail ottawas next Calder winner
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+1 #65 MattZ 2011-10-16 22:11
if you do consider nail as the classic "russian" player, you are sadly mistaken. this kid actually throws the body alot he's not afraid, he could definatly get bigger and he has a great work ethic. not to forget his amazing skill and speed.
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+1 #66 Yaro 2011-10-16 22:13
Yakupov is Russian Tatar.
His name is actually pronounced Na-yeel'
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+1 #67 N8ball85 2011-10-16 22:14
Oilers fans give us no respect over on that crap site I just read for fun, they think karlsson is not elite lol way too funny Id be pissed if we traded our future star don't care what they offer. Plus Tajiks will be better than the Nuge or hall some even think he the best Russian player ever dare I say and I love alex the gr8
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0 #68 N8ball85 2011-10-16 22:16
Tajkis ??? Fckn auto correct I meant yakupov
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+3 #69 Floridasensfan 2011-10-16 22:35
I understand why we talk about draft picks when the season is over as there is no hockey to watch, I don't get talking about draft picks when the season has just started.

crazy
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0 #70 jd2reeso 2011-10-16 22:44
Quoting N8ball85:
Oilers fans give us no respect over on that crap site I just read for fun, they think karlsson is not elite lol way too funny Id be pissed if we traded our future star don't care what they offer. Plus Tajiks will be better than the Nuge or hall some even think he the best Russian player ever dare I say and I love alex the gr8


100% agree. No need to rush. There are plenty of great forwards in the upcoming draft not to mention the ones stockpiled in our system. Keep our D and soon we will be elite at both ends.
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0 #71 sprucesens 2011-10-16 23:52
as great as it might be to potentially draft yakupov, he won't single handedly turn the team around. Eklunds rumours have me furious, rundblad for martindale, lander or something similar. first off those prospects weren't even good enough to make the oilers, who have been dead last 2 years running. 2 first overalls, with fairly consistent high picks surrounding them. And the team is still garbage.(i live in edmonton) The only way to get ahead is drafting properly and making trades that benefit the team. Trading rundblad who, if were to be drafted this year, very well could have challeged for first overall, as he more than out played larsson who was widely contested for first overall. It just makes 0 sense. So as far as i'm concerned, Rundblad can be considered a 1st overall pick, and such he should be treated. The only fair 1 for 1 trade would be Nugent-hopkins for Rundblad. Both are unproven, "1st overall" picks. At least in my books.
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0 #72 stevrock 2011-10-16 23:55
Quoting N8ball85:
Oilers fans give us no respect over on that crap site I just read for fun, they think karlsson is not elite lol way too funny Id be pissed if we traded our future star don't care what they offer. Plus Tajiks will be better than the Nuge or hall some even think he the best Russian player ever dare I say and I love alex the gr8


Try living in Edmonton and dealing with these tards.
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0 #73 SensTime 2011-10-17 07:20
yakupov is actually first gen american so no flight risk on him either
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+1 #74 BMKing 2011-10-17 07:55
Quoting SensTime:
yakupov is actually first gen american so no flight risk on him either



I think you are tthinking of Alex Galenchyuk, Nail is Russian (tatar)
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0 #75 Sensnation 2011-10-17 09:00
Overall I like what I am seeing from this team. The first few weeks with such a new lineup and a new system take a while to get everyone on the same page and as long as the boys keep building on that last game and showing the effort they have in most of the games thus far, they'll be headed in the right direction.
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+1 #76 Hogan 2011-10-17 09:13
Quoting JABSmilez:
Overall I like what I am seeing from this team. The first few weeks with such a new lineup and a new system take a while to get everyone on the same page and as long as the boys keep building on that last game and showing the effort they have in most of the games thus far, they'll be headed in the right direction.


I agree! It's not like the Leafs are going to go undefeated this season either. Still early yet boys!

As long as they can keep tightening up hopefully one of our lines starts to get some consistent production. They have all season to practice essentially
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+1 #77 Round Leaf 2011-10-17 09:20
I like how in a season with no expectations, fans have almost immediately imposed the expectation that we get the first overall pick and pick Nail Yakupov.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but I am saying that we won't tank.
I'm also saying that Winnipeg has looked every bit a 30th place team so far as we have.
And finally, if there are any question marks or controversies surrounding Nail Yakupov come draft day and we have the first overall, the team will trade down in a heartbeat.
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0 #78 gonein1967seconds 2011-10-17 09:39
I think if things continue to go south, Murray should try to figure out a way to get an extra first rounder especially considering this year's draft is really deep. What it would take I have no clue, but an extra 1st rounder in this years draft would go a long way in the rebuild, especially seeing as how it was said that the 10th defenseman taken could very well be the best defenseman in the entire draft.
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0 #79 DarcyLoewen 2011-10-17 09:50
Quoting db7568:
We all know that EDM is looking for Defence prospects. Im not too up on the percieved value of EDM's FWD prospects, but would the following sound reasonable at all?

To EDM: Wiercioch, 2012 2ns RND Pick

To OTT: Lindus Omark

Ill tell you what trade I would be pushing so hard for though...

To EDM: Gonchar, Kuba

To OTT: Sutton

I was close to putting Phillips on there to, but he has started to come around abit. At least in this trade, we would get a veteran D-man who will ACTUALLY HIT!!!!


My guess is the trade being discussed is:

To OTT: Brule

To EDM: Wiercioch
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0 #80 Johne 2011-10-17 10:01
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - No Craig Anderson on the ice. Haven't seen Bobby Butler either. #Sens
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - No Sergei Gonchar either.
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0 #81 Sensnation 2011-10-17 10:05
Quoting DarcyLoewen:

My guess is the trade being discussed is:

To OTT: Brule

To EDM: Wiercioch


Brule was waived at the start of the season and no teams picked him up. Doubtful they would pay for him now.

I would hope it's something that would help the teams out a bit more then that. Maybe Paajarvi for Rundblad, or Omark/Gagner + 1st for Rundblad & Kuba.
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-3 #82 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:07
Quoting Senta Claus:
Still seems kind of Russian to me...


How many times do I have to say this.....He escaped Russia as early as he could to come and play in Canada. Anyways just watch him play and I guaratee you in 1 game you'll be conviced he's the kid to draft. I have the OHL pack and have watched every Sarnia game, this kid does it all, back checks, score, assists, hits, fights, block shots, you name it. the best part of his game is his skating, very powerful skater, want more check out Biosteel camp, Yak and Gal were both there.
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0 #83 Mattel 2011-10-17 10:09
As per : Bruce Garrioch:

No Sergei Gonchar either.
11:01 AM October 17 | retweet this
Bruce Garrioch:

No Craig Anderson on the ice. Haven't seen Bobby Butler either.

No Gonchar means more Rundblad. Odd about Anderson though...
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0 #84 Johne 2011-10-17 10:09
Quoting Mattel:
As per : Bruce Garrioch:

No Sergei Gonchar either.
11:01 AM October 17 | retweet this
Bruce Garrioch:

No Craig Anderson on the ice. Haven't seen Bobby Butler either.

No Gonchar means more Rundblad. Odd about Anderson though...


http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Anderson not here for personal reasons. Expected to return tomorrow. #Sens
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-2 #85 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:12
Quoting BMKing:
Quoting SensTime:
yakupov is actually first gen american so no flight risk on him either



I think you are thinking of Alex Galenchyuk, Nail is Russian (tatar)


Yeah thats Galchenyuk, he's probably going to play for USA at the WJC!! Wouldnt that be nuts!
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+1 #86 IcySurfas 2011-10-17 10:17
Quoting Floridasensfan:
I understand why we talk about draft picks when the season is over as there is no hockey to watch, I don't get talking about draft picks when the season has just started.

crazy


Ahmen to that. This Fail for Nail thing makes me sick. To promote a loosing attitude for something thats out of our control, I don't get it. Let me get this straight....peo ple intend to cheer for the Sens to fail for the next 77 games so were in a better position to draft 1st overall?

Enjoy the season boys and girls....win or loose. Worry about a friggin draft when our season is done.
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-2 #87 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:18
Quoting gonein1967seconds:
I think if things continue to go south, Murray should try to figure out a way to get an extra first rounder especially considering this year's draft is really deep. What it would take I have no clue, but an extra 1st rounder in this years draft would go a long way in the rebuild, especially seeing as how it was said that the 10th defenseman taken could very well be the best defenseman in the entire draft.



Yeah thats definitely and option Murray is thinking about, no doubt. The more picks you get the better chance to get an elite player, especially in this years draft! I mean as long as we are in the top 4, I'll be very happy with that!

But would do anything to land Nail!
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+1 #88 Johne 2011-10-17 10:22
Tookie is already rooting for this team to fail and we're 5 games in to the season WITH a new coach and tons of youth. don't write this team off yet, we're not going to win the cup this year, but no one expected us to.

@Tookie, now I agree with a lot of what you're saying and no doubt you see lots of prospects and I think you can be a pretty fair judge of talent but rooting for your team to fail 5 games into the season is NOT a fan.
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-3 #89 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:27
Quoting IcySurfas:
Let me get this straight....people intend to cheer for the Sens to fail for the next 77 games so were in a better position to draft 1st overall?


Wow you catch on quick, little grasshopper!!

Waiting till the season is done is WAY too late, usually around the trade deadline is when the team decides to tank or push for playoff spot. We will not be pushing for a playoff spot anytime soon so why not get good draft picks and draft 1-3 if we can.
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0 #90 Round Leaf 2011-10-17 10:30
Quoting Tookie19:


Waiting till the season is done is WAY too late, usually around the trade deadline is when the team decides to tank or push for playoff spot. We will not be pushing for a playoff spot anytime soon so why not get good draft picks and draft 1-3 if we can.


because losing games on purpose will hurt the development of the players that we already have which would be more devastating that having the 3rd pick instead of the 1st pick.
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-2 #91 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:30
Quoting Johne:
Tookie is already rooting for this team to fail and we're 5 games in to the season WITH a new coach and tons of youth. don't write this team off yet, we're not going to win the cup this year, but no one expected us to.

@Tookie, now I agree with a lot of what you're saying and no doubt you see lots of prospects and I think you can be a pretty fair judge of talent but rooting for your team to fail 5 games into the season is NOT a fan.


So I'm not a fan bacause I'm looking out for our future instead of the present? Building a better team with better picks and trying to re-create a winning attitude?

Damn, how to I become a fan then?
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+1 #92 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-10-17 10:33
Tookie is just simply being Tookie !!

He loves the game of hockey, knows it inside out,
and always makes contoversial comments, to get all the SensChirp posters, to give him a hard time, especially
Snoopy Senior, who sometimes puts him up against the wall,
and then, he simply does not respond,and fades away !

But, hey, some times he is dead on !!

Rockin Robert
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-4 #93 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:34
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Tookie19:


Waiting till the season is done is WAY too late, usually around the trade deadline is when the team decides to tank or push for playoff spot. We will not be pushing for a playoff spot anytime soon so why not get good draft picks and draft 1-3 if we can.


because losing games on purpose will hurt the development of the players that we already have which would be more devastating that having the 3rd pick instead of the 1st pick.


So by your opinion Spezza and Alfie, Redden, Phillips, Havlat, back when we got them, were all negatively affected cuz the team was tanking to get better??

Come on guy, grow a pair, these are professionals and they know by tanking they get better in the future.
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+1 #94 Johne 2011-10-17 10:36
@Tookie

I realize that we'd be a better team in 2-3 years by bottoming out (that's not rocket science), but do you even watch the games? are you willing as a "fan" to watch 82 games with a pitiful product on ice with the expected outcome of losing?

better yet, are you willing to pay to go see that product on ice for 2-3 years?

this is not something Melnyk can afford. Pittsburgh did this and yes they are now successful, but at the same time they were sooooo close to losing their team completely. if Ottawa doesn't do well enough with its revenue, Quebec City would be more than happy to have a team and has the support to do it as well.
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-2 #95 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:48
@ Johne

SensChirp mentioned it before, Ottawa is in no way shape or form in monetary problems nor is there any chance of loosing the team....

And even if we were, dont you think doing something about it now, rather than slow bleeding our way out of town. If were going to suck, suck now to get better in 2-3 years. Dont put out a product that sucks or is avg just to end up having to rebuild again in 4-5 years and having a chance to lose the team in the future.

Melnyk has deep pockets, in case you havent noticed, the Sens are not his only source of revenue, we are secure and thus why the rebuild was opted for.

Do you think the rebuild is done?
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+1 #96 Round Leaf 2011-10-17 10:50
Quoting Tookie19:


Building a better team with better picks and trying to re-create a winning attitude?


"re-create a winning attitude" by losing games on purpose. Those are your exact words. Explain.
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0 #97 Johne 2011-10-17 10:51
@Tookie

I'd rather have a team for another 20 years without a cup that plays to entertain than to have 2-3 years of a hockey product that bores me that ends up with a cup.

So, how many games do you plan on watching/going to this season? By your plan, I see no pleasure in watching a team tank.
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-2 #98 Tookie 2011-10-17 10:58
Quoting Johne:
@Tookie

I'd rather have a team for another 20 years without a cup that plays to entertain than to have 2-3 years of a hockey product that bores me that ends up with a cup.

So, how many games do you plan on watching/going to this season? By your plan, I see no pleasure in watching a team tank.


You find this entertaining?!? And you also dont want to win a Cup?...ok...
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-2 #99 Tookie 2011-10-17 11:02
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Tookie19:


Building a better team with better picks and trying to re-create a winning attitude?


"re-create a winning attitude" by losing games on purpose. Those are your exact words. Explain.


Because when your rebuild is done you stop tanking, man, am I dealing with 1st graders??!

How do you think we went to 12 straight playoff appearances and being 1 of the Leagues best team for 10 years...by bottomin out and drafting top picks year in and year out..
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+1 #100 Round Leaf 2011-10-17 11:08
Quoting Tookie19:


How do you think we went to 12 straight playoff appearances and being 1 of the Leagues best team for 10 years...by bottomin out and drafting top picks year in and year out..


You're right!! how could I be so stupid! I thought it was Alfredsson (6th round pick), Hossa (18th overall) Spezza (traded for pick) and Chara (traded for) that were most responsible for our playoff success, but now that I recall properly, it was all thanks to Daigle (1st overall), Berard (1st overall), Yashin (2nd overall), Bonk (3rd overall) and Phillips (1st overall and now most fans want to run him out of town) the guys we tanked for.
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0 #101 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-10-17 11:09
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Tookie19:


Building a better team with better picks and trying to re-create a winning attitude?


"re-create a winning attitude" by losing games on purpose. Those are your exact words. Explain.


Because when your rebuild is done you stop tanking, man, am I dealing with 1st graders??!

How do you think we went to 12 straight playoff appearances and being 1 of the Leagues best team for 10 years...by bottomin out and drafting top picks year in and year out..


We sure were not bottoming out as of 1992-93. We were the bottom.
Got picks cause we did not get out of bottom till Alfredsson started becoming our best plasyer .
No tanking there Tookie !

Sorry buddy !!

Rockin Robert
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0 #102 Johne 2011-10-17 11:15
@Tookie

I've asked twice and it seems you've dodged the question twice.

How many games do you plan on watching or attending this season?

It's easy to want to tank when you're not watching the product on ice.
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0 #103 Round Leaf 2011-10-17 11:15
Lets explore a little hypothetical situation... Ottawa bottoms out for whatever reason and is awarded the 1st overall pick. At the same time, the Oilers do not have the season they had hoped for and finish with the 3rd overall pick.

The Oilers have 100% bought into the Tookie/ Brian Burke philosophy and wish to acquire both Yakupov and Galchenyuk. To do so, they are willing to offer Taylor Hall, who had a 25 goal, 60 pts season for our 1st overall pick.
Surely THIS would be best for the team, right Tookie?
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0 #104 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-10-17 11:21
Tookie has had enough on both this topic and SensChirp's next topic as he has gone home !!

We truly crucified him to death !!

Rockin Robert
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-2 #105 Tookie 2011-10-17 11:25
Quoting Johne:
@Tookie

I've asked twice and it seems you've dodged the question twice.

How many games do you plan on watching or attending this season?

It's easy to want to tank when you're not watching the product on ice.


You know I have season tickets! I do attend most games and those I cant I give tickets away to my employees!
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-2 #106 Tookie 2011-10-17 11:28
Quoting Round Leaf:
Lets explore a little hypothetical situation... Ottawa bottoms out for whatever reason and is awarded the 1st overall pick. At the same time, the Oilers do not have the season they had hoped for and finish with the 3rd overall pick.

The Oilers have 100% bought into the Tookie/ Brian Burke philosophy and wish to acquire both Yakupov and Galchenyuk. To do so, they are willing to offer Taylor Hall, who had a 25 goal, 60 pts season for our 1st overall pick.
Surely THIS would be best for the team, right Tookie?


For which team? For Edmonton, considering they are still rebuilding, this would be great for them!

For Ottawa, getting Hall would be a huge boost aswell but I wouldnt give up Yak for him as I think Yakupov will be the closest thing to Crosby.
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0 #107 Johne 2011-10-17 11:30
@Tookie

lol someone as pessimistic as you runs a business? I call bullshirt lol.
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-2 #108 Tookie 2011-10-17 11:32
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:

We sure were not bottoming out as of 1992-93. We were the bottom.
Got picks cause we did not get out of bottom till Alfredsson started becoming our best plasyer .
No tanking there Tookie !

Sorry buddy !!

Rockin Robert


Just like the sens of today then, right? we are the bottom, I'm not for tanking either, only in dire circumstances but I dont even think tanking is possible with pro athletes, I wouldnt know Im not in the NHL. I do know we probably dont even have to tank to get a top 3 pick, we are as bad as it gets.
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0 #109 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-10-17 11:38
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:

We sure were not bottoming out as of 1992-93. We were the bottom.
Got picks cause we did not get out of bottom till Alfredsson started becoming our best plasyer .
No tanking there Tookie !

Sorry buddy !!

Rockin Robert


Just like the sens of today then, right? we are the bottom, I'm not for tanking either, only in dire circumstances but I dont even think tanking is possible with pro athletes, I wouldnt know Im not in the NHL. I do know we probably dont even have to tank to get a top 3 pick, we are as bad as it gets.


Guess you felt compelled to respond , and I thank you for
your reply.

You said above"I'm not for tanking either" ?????????????

Let's just saw the whole "tirade" is now over !!

Rockin Robert
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-2 #110 Tookie 2011-10-17 11:41
Quoting Tookie19:
[quote name="Johne"]@Tookie

lol someone as pessimistic as you runs a business? I call bullshirt lol.


Its what has kept me going, dont by into the hype...you should try it.

Also how is wanting a better team in the future come out to be pessimistic?
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0 #111 Sandy 2011-10-17 13:22
We don't know where the Sens will finish this year. It will most likely be a lottery pick. If they don't make the playoffs (which is highly unlikely) then the best place to finish for the re-build is the lottery pick. I agree.. trade at the deadline for more picks... Don't think they will end up with the 12 they had last season.

As long as the AVS or Oilers don't get the 1st overall... The Avs as it goes to Wash & the Oilers as they have had 2 first overall picks in a row. They way the Oiler fans trash the Sens prospects over on HB is downright laughable. They are beginning to sound like Leaf fans.. except the Oilers will eventually be a really good team.

No way the Sens trade Karlsson, Cowen or Rundblad. What they try to trade is a D to make room for Rundblad.
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0 #112 sens23 2011-10-17 15:52
i can see why you guys are all over tookie for saying the sens should lose games on purpose

but the facts are that this team although loaded with prospective talent is not very good right now at all. whether they lose on purpose or not they will be in the draft lottery with a good chance at number 1

why anyone would think or want that to be different is just dumb
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