Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:09

Battle of Ontario at SBP

The Battle of Ontario continues tonight when the Sens play host to the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Should be a good crowd down at SBP with the usual contingent of obnoxiously loud Leaf fans in attendance.  Here's hoping the Sens can silence those fans with a strong performance tonight.

 

For head coach Paul MacLean and the rest of the staff, this will be their second last opportunity to evaluate the guys they have in camp.  After a weaker line up in Newfoundland, the Sens will ice a much stronger group on home ice.

Here is how the Sens are expected to line up.

  • Greening-Spezza-Filatov
  • Foligno-Regin-Condra
  • Hoffman-Zibanejad-Butler
  • Daugavins-Smith-Neil

 

  • Gonchar-Borowiecki
  • Cowen-Karlsson
  • Rundblad-Lee

 

Robin Lehner will make the start in the Ottawa goal and is scheduled to play the full 60 minutes.  Craig Anderson had a "maintenance issue" but is expected to be good to go on Thursday when the Sens close out the preseason against the Bruins.

Tonight's game can be seen on Rogers TV and heard live on the Team 1200.  I also have a pair of tickets to give away for this one so keep an eye on the site for details on how you can win.

Last modified on Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:26

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0 #1 JRMcPeeWee 2011-09-27 11:13
Any word on who is dropped ?
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+2 #2 SensChirp 2011-09-27 11:16
There are the guys still left in camp...

Michalek, Alfredsson, Regin, Greening, Smith, Butler, Spezza, Filatov, Condra, Daugavins, Da Costa, Neil, Konopka, Hoffman, Foligno, Zibanejad, Winchester

D: Phillips, Karlsson, Gonchar, Kuba, Carkner, Lee, Cowen, Runblad, Wiercioch, Borowiecki

Auld, Anderson, Lehner
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+2 #3 JRMcPeeWee 2011-09-27 11:20
I wonder if they will keep Runblad, the more he plays the more comfortable he gets, and that kid has some moves.
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+6 #4 RoverBoyFirstClass 2011-09-27 11:23
I like that first line
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-7 #5 Tookie 2011-09-27 11:24
Da Costa, Hoffman, Daugavins and Zib are the ones getting cut.

Runblad, Wiercioch, Borowiecki wont make it.

Book it!
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0 #6 my2sens 2011-09-27 11:26
GO INTO TONIGHT'S GAME

J Cowen 2G 1A = 3pts
M. Michalek 2G 1A = 3pts
N. Filatov 0G 3A = 3pts
P. Regin 0G 3A = 3 pts

Z. Smith 2G 0A = 2 pts
M. Zibanejad 2G 0A = 2 pts
C. Neil 2G 0A = 2 pts
B Lee 1G 1A = 2pts
N. Foligno 0G 2A = 2pts
S. Da Costa 0G 2A = 2 pts

F. Kuba 0G 1A = 1 pt
E. Condra 0G 1A = 1 pt
J. Spezza 0G 1A = 1 pt
D. Rundblad 0G 1A = 1 pt
D. Alfredsson 0G 1A = 1pt

Not sure if there was more then Alfredsson's assist on the goal last night... can't find a boxscore... does anyone know?
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-5 #7 Tookie 2011-09-27 11:28
Any predictions for tonights game?
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+3 #8 my2sens 2011-09-27 11:30
Quoting Tookie19:
Any predictions for tonights game?


Without Kuba to pass to the Leafs, strong players and goaltending, 5-1 Sens!

GO SENS GO!
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+1 #9 Adam Smith 2011-09-27 11:31
I kind of like the idea of Greening with Spezza and Filatov. Might be a good 1st line.

I'm not sure if we'll win or lose tonight, but I'll go on a limb and say 3-2 Sens
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-6 #10 Tookie 2011-09-27 11:36
Do we have the lineup for both team going into tonights game?
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+1 #11 SensChirp 2011-09-27 11:39
MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin
Lupul-Kadri-Kessel
Frattin-Boyce-Armstrong
Rosehill-Dupuis-Orr/Crabb

Liles-Schenn
Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Aulie-Franson
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+2 #12 timj 2011-09-27 11:43
any stream for this game?
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+1 #13 WantEggRoll 2011-09-27 11:44
Here's hoping line three does some damage, I just continue to like what I see from Mike Hoffman each and every game. The kid always seems to bring energy to his line, so hopefully he can get Zibanejad and Butler going in this preseason.
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-11 #14 Tookie 2011-09-27 11:46
Hmm well going by SC's Leafs lineup, I'd say 4-2 Leafs.
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0 #15 Dirk Diggler 2011-09-27 11:58
Quoting Tookie19:
Hmm well going by SC's Leafs lineup, I'd say 4-2 Leafs.

Tookie,

We don't need your negativity around here. Thanks for coming out but kindly leave. Don't you have work to do?
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0 #16 Swesens 2011-09-27 12:04
We don't need Kubas salary to get to the cap floor.

FORWARDS
Milan Michalek ($4.333m) / Jason Spezza ($7.000m) / Nikita Filatov ($2.195m)
Colin Greening ($0.816m) / Peter Regin ($1.000m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.875m)
Nick Foligno ($1.200m) / Mika Zibanejad ($1.775m) / Bobby Butler ($1.050m)
Zenon Konopka ($0.700m) / Zack Smith ($0.700m) / Chris Neil ($2.000m)
Erik Condra ($0.625m) / Jesse Winchester ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN
Erik Karlsson ($1.300m) / Jared Cowen ($1.265m)
Chris Phillips ($3.083m) / Brian Lee ($0.875m)
Sergei Gonchar ($5.500m) / David Rundblad ($1.500m)
Matt Carkner ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson ($3.187m) / Alex Auld ($1.000m)

BUYOUTS: Jonathan Cheechoo ($1.166m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($0.700m) / Ray Emery ($0.562m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $49,860,833; BONUSES: $3,650,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $14,439,167
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-2 #17 my2sens 2011-09-27 12:14
When did we buy Alfredsson out?
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0 #18 Mr Hockey 2011-09-27 12:22
Is Rogers tv channel 22 or is it just sportsnet?
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+5 #19 Johne 2011-09-27 12:22
Had this on the old post but we put some guys on waivers today.

Tim Conboy (OTT)
Francis Lessard (OTT)
Corey Locke (OTT)
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+1 #20 SlickRick 2011-09-27 12:22
Quoting Tookie19:
Hmm well going by SC's Leafs lineup, I'd say 4-2 Leafs.


Nobody cares what you think and if you want the Leaf line-up go ImaLeafHomer.co m and go away.
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+3 #21 Ctea 2011-09-27 12:26
I'm looking forward to watching Zibanejad tonight. He had a lot of jump to his game in the past few games. Borowiecki should be fun to watch as well. He hates the Leafs just as much as we do. Go Sens!
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+4 #22 spezzerman 2011-09-27 12:29
Okay, I have to ask - is tookie on the senschirp.ca payroll to keep site traffic up? I know I keep coming back to read what nonSENS he'll come up with next. he/she is a good agitator...
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-1 #23 boom 2011-09-27 12:30
I see we're back to crapping on Tookie when he dares to disagree. Have a look at the line-ups and tell me how his prediction is unfair. Sadly, the leafs have more proven scoring on the first two lines, and more proven talent on the first two D pairings. If you ask me, however (and Tookie may agree or disagree) Ottawa has more potential moving forward, but these next couple of years are going to better for the leafs then they will for us, at least head to head. And before anyone thinks I always agree with Tookie - I had Cowen making the team ahead of Rundblad, while Tookie thought otherwise. Stay tuned on that front...
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-3 #24 Sensnation 2011-09-27 12:31
Quoting Swesens:
We don't need Kubas salary to get to the cap floor.
...
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $49,860,833; BONUSES: $3,650,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $14,439,167


Exactly and we're better off without him!
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-4 #25 Sensnation 2011-09-27 12:33
Quoting SensChirp:
MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin
Lupul-Kadri-Kessel
Frattin-Boyce-Armstrong
Rosehill-Dupuis-Orr/Crabb

Liles-Schenn
Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Aulie-Franson


That's pretty close to their full lineup, should be a good test for those Sens in the lineup tonight. I'll take the Sens 4-3 in regulation.

Smith, Neil and Cowen are going to be pretty busy!
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+1 #26 SlickRick 2011-09-27 12:44
Quoting boom:
I see we're back to crapping on Tookie when he dares to disagree. Have a look at the line-ups and tell me how his prediction is unfair. Sadly, the leafs have more proven scoring on the first two lines, and more proven talent on the first two D pairings. If you ask me, however (and Tookie may agree or disagree) Ottawa has more potential moving forward, but these next couple of years are going to better for the leafs then they will for us, at least head to head. And before anyone thinks I always agree with Tookie - I had Cowen making the team ahead of Rundblad, while Tookie thought otherwise. Stay tuned on that front...


I just hate (OK'dislike' cause people here will be offended) Leaf fans and wish they would gloat on their own sites.
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+2 #27 Sens_247 2011-09-27 12:49
I'm looking forward to seeing Hoffman's performance tonight. I liked his play on the top line in the last game, and you can tell Maclean did too; giving him more ice time. If he continues to play the same way this game, if not better, and displays some chemistry with the Swedes (Rundblad, Karlsson and Zib), I would assume he would be in the running for a spot come the opener. However, he'd really have to impressed, and make Maclean need him (not just like him), because he has a 2-way contract. Unfortunately for Hoffman, he will most likely fall victim to his 2-way contract. But bright future.
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+1 #28 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-27 12:49
Quoting spezzerman:
Okay, I have to ask - is tookie on the senschirp.ca payroll to keep site traffic up? I know I keep coming back to read what nonSENS he'll come up with next. he/she is a good agitator...


I'm beginning to figure out our friend Tookie, aka Tookie19,
he knows the game of hockey very well, is super controversial, funny at times, but down deep insde, I think
he is a real Sens fan, and is developing ADD ??

No offense implied buddy !!

Rockin Robert
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+1 #29 -zs 2011-09-27 12:53
I actually really like Ottawa's D pairings this game.
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-6 #30 Sensnation 2011-09-27 12:54
Quoting Sens_247:
I'm looking forward to seeing Hoffman's performance tonight. I liked his play on the top line in the last game, and you can tell Maclean did too; giving him more ice time. If he continues to play the same way this game, if not better, and displays some chemistry with the Swedes (Rundblad, Karlsson and Zib), I would assume he would be in the running for a spot come the opener. However, he'd really have to impressed, and make Maclean need him (not just like him), because he has a 2-way contract. Unfortunately for Hoffman, he will most likely fall victim to his 2-way contract. But bright future.


Agreed, definitely going to be some tough choices for PM to make. Konopka and Carkner may not have as big of a role this year as they may have expected.
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+2 #31 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-27 13:06
Maybe Pittsburgh will pick up Lessard from waivers, then he can run Crosby into the boards during his first practice with contact.
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0 #32 boom 2011-09-27 13:11
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Maybe Pittsburgh will pick up Lessard from waivers, then he can run Crosby into the boards during his first practice with contact.

Did i miss something? Is he on waivers? I hope...
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+5 #33 spezzerman 2011-09-27 13:18
Quoting boom:
I see we're back to crapping on Tookie when he dares to disagree. Have a look at the line-ups and tell me how his prediction is unfair. Sadly, the leafs have more proven scoring on the first two lines, and more proven talent on the first two D pairings. If you ask me, however (and Tookie may agree or disagree) Ottawa has more potential moving forward, but these next couple of years are going to better for the leafs then they will for us, at least head to head. And before anyone thinks I always agree with Tookie - I had Cowen making the team ahead of Rundblad, while Tookie thought otherwise. Stay tuned on that front...


I could care less what tookie thinks. he's entitled to his wrong opinion, just as I am. I wasn't "crapping" on him but he did say a few weeks ago that Aulie is an all-star and the context was leafs prospects are better than sens. this is a sens board and pro-leafs comments can and will be "crapped on."
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+6 #34 meadowdog  2011-09-27 13:18
Tookie19 = "George from Arnprior" 2.0
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+2 #35 Sandy 2011-09-27 13:25
Quoting my2sens:
When did we buy Alfredsson out?


When the Alfie signed his new contract -- the team had to 'buy out' the option years on his old contract..

At least I think that's how it went.

Going to the game... I just hate (or should I say really dislike) drunken, arrogant, nothing to brag about Leaf fans.

Hoping for a Sens win if nothing that to shut up those Leaf fans.

Leafs have almost their full lineup. Sens not so much.
Will be a good test.

Hopefully they play the full game this time instead of just the last 20 min like yesterday.
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0 #36 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-27 13:29
Would anyone be so kind as to provide me a mini-scouting report on Borowiecki? I full well realize we don't expect him n the roster this year, but where could he fit into the club's plans a year or three down the road?
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0 #37 conservativeHippie 2011-09-27 13:31
Quoting meadowdog :
Tookie19 = "George from Arnprior" 2.0


Yup...he exists to create interest. Even hot 89.9 uses friends to call in with wild calls to generate hype. Personally, a very shrewd move on Chirps part. Yin to the Yang, just like the Beatles needed the rolling stones...bonus points to anyone who can give me movie where that quote is from...
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+2 #38 WantEggRoll 2011-09-27 13:43
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Quoting meadowdog :
Tookie19 = "George from Arnprior" 2.0


Yup...he exists to create interest. Even hot 89.9 uses friends to call in with wild calls to generate hype. Personally, a very shrewd move on Chirps part. Yin to the Yang, just like the Beatles needed the rolling stones...bonus points to anyone who can give me movie where that quote is from...


Haha Talladega Nights was a classy movie, the extended version ruins most of the jokes though.
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-5 #39 Sensnation 2011-09-27 13:44
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Would anyone be so kind as to provide me a mini-scouting report on ? I full well realize we don't expect him n the roster this year, but where could he fit into the club's plans a year or three down the road?


Think of Gryba except better. He's mainly a tough stay at home Dman, has a decent point shot.
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+1 #40 JRMcPeeWee 2011-09-27 13:45
Talladega Nights
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+1 #41 Canucnik 2011-09-27 13:59
Big pre-season/trai ning camp game for #7...he could end up in the old US of A, Sweden or Canada...I'm hoping for Alf's basement...
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-5 #42 Tookie 2011-09-27 14:10
Quoting spezzerman:
I could care less what tookie thinks. he's entitled to his wrong opinion, just as I am. I wasn't "crapping" on him but he did say a few weeks ago that Aulie is an all-star and the context was leafs prospects are better than sens. this is a sens board and pro-leafs comments can and will be "crapped on."


Never said their prospects were better, they are just ahead of ours, in a few years our will surpass theirs.

Never said Aulie was an All-Star, now you just look like a idiot, I said he had the potential to be one, at 6'5 200 with great skating ability, its rare.

Oh and if I was such a Leaf homer, I wouldnt have asked for the line up and would not have forgotten the Leafs BEST player when making lineups vs the Sens...hahah nice try tho douchbag...
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+3 #43 Round Leaf 2011-09-27 14:12
Pretty sure you said that Aulie was a future allstar... I remember because I absolutely died laughing.
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-4 #44 Sens97 2011-09-27 14:15
Ive got to agree with Tookie on this one. Minus Connolly, the leafs are icing almost their entire team. And objectively speaking, they do have a somewhat decent chance of making the playoffs while the Sens are a long shot.

Dont get so worked up about Tookie's comments. I will cheer for the sens every game, but more often than not, I will be expecting a loss
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0 #45 Mitchell 2011-09-27 14:17
looks like chris campoli found a home in montreal for this next season. good to see him land a job, he'll only get better. imo


p.s. sorry if this has already been posted
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-6 #46 Tookie 2011-09-27 14:23
@ Rocking Robert

I am a huge Sens fan, I just dont sugarcoat it like most, our prospect pool was dying, we injected life into it but dont be stupid and think those prospects we just got can compete in the NHL right away. Its gonna be some tough years, possibly even gather another load of prospects in next years draft and then be set for 10-15 years.

What would you rather have, a couple of poor seasons, gathering high draft picks to infuse youth and possibly elite talent and ensure we contend for the next 10-15 years...

or

Play our young talent now and possibly finish mid standings every year and watch our prospect pool dwindle as we pick mid to high draft picks every year. Oh and notice that we dont have a sure fire elite talent in our prospect pool still.

The choice is obvious, we're in a rebuild folks, its hardly over, we didnt get a Crosby or an Ovechkin, hell we didnt even get a Toews or a Kane or a Richards or Giroux.
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-7 #47 Tookie 2011-09-27 14:28
Quoting Round Leaf:
Pretty sure you said that Aulie was a future allstar... I remember because I absolutely died laughing.


Potentially yes.
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-3 #48 Sensnation 2011-09-27 14:29
Haha, so who are these 4 trolls who hide behind thumbs but obviously have beef with Tookie, Andrew's Theory and myself?

Any of you have the balls to step up and say why your feelings are so hurt or do you all enjoy hiding like little girls too much?
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0 #49 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-27 14:31
To Tookie 19,

Always knew you were a huge Sens fan, but in the same breath
you are more pessimist and love to create debate.

I somewhat agree with your points in your dissertation, but we also never had an elite player, when we went to 2007 Stanley Cup finals,and still other than Spezza, we are not looking for one, but we sure are developing little by little !

Rockin Robert
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-3 #50 Tookie 2011-09-27 14:41
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
To Tookie 19,

I somewhat agree with your points in your dissertation, but we also never had an elite player, when we went to 2007 Stanley Cup finals,.
Rockin Robert


I would put Spezza in the elite category in 2007, he was easily a top 8 center in the league.

And did you forget Heatley, easily an elite player when we had him.
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+2 #51 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-27 14:45
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
To Tookie 19,

I somewhat agree with your points in your dissertation, but we also never had an elite player, when we went to 2007 Stanley Cup finals,.
Rockin Robert


I would put Spezza in the elite category in 2007, he was easily a top 8 center in the league.

And did you forget Heatley, easily an elite player when we had him.


NOW THAT'S A REAL POSITIVE PRO - OTTAWA STATEMENT !!
FINALLY !!
Heatley was somewhat elite, thanks to Spezza and Alfie ,
but in last 2 years ,he is done as an elite player do you not agree??

Thanks Tookie 19 .............

Rockin Robert
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+2 #52 ImNotJoJo 2011-09-27 14:47
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Round Leaf:
Pretty sure you said that Aulie was a future allstar... I remember because I absolutely died laughing.


Potentially yes.

Keith Aulie ceilings at 4th d-man. Book THAT Tooks.
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0 #53 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 14:51
I want to know why Maclean isn't playing the starters with 2 games left before the season you'd think that tonight would be a perfect game at home too give it a go ..Makes me wonder if its not only Mika and Da Costa really fighting for a spot ...
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-4 #54 Sensnation 2011-09-27 14:55
Quoting ImNotJoJo:

Keith Aulie ceilings at 4th d-man. Book THAT Tooks.


Hockey Futures agrees with you
"Future

Aulie is penciled into a starting six spot with the Toronto Maple Leafs for the 2011-12 season.

Projection: Defensive stalwart, with complimentary top-four capability"
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0 #55 SlickRick 2011-09-27 14:56
Always knew you were a huge Sens fan, but in the same breath
you are more pessimist and love to create debate


You're right, he's like the #1 fan...HUGE FAN. Loves all the players, coaches, fans, city, dislikes our rivals...huge fan.
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0 #56 WantEggRoll 2011-09-27 15:18
I tried to answer quickly haha, good luck to everyone!
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0 #57 SensChirp 2011-09-27 15:19
Quoting WantEggRoll:
I tried to answer quickly haha, good luck to everyone!

Haha this one is pure speed! Good luck!
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0 #58 Matt S 2011-09-27 15:21
I got mine in at 4:17.
Now I just have to worry about whether or not I got the answer right :)
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0 #59 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-27 15:25
If Tookie wins I wonder if he will wear his Leafs jersey.
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-4 #60 Tookie 2011-09-27 15:26
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting ImNotJoJo:

Keith Aulie ceilings at 4th d-man. Book THAT Tooks.


Hockey Futures agrees with you
"Future

Aulie is penciled into a starting six spot with the Toronto Maple Leafs for the 2011-12 season.

Projection: Defensive stalwart, with complimentary top-four capability"


Top four capability means anything from 1 to 4. Which I agree with aswell.
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0 #61 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-27 15:27
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
If Tookie wins I wonder if he will wear his Leafs jersey.


Tookie cannot win, because he is too busy to even glance at the question for the ticket contest !

Rockin Robert
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-2 #62 Tookie 2011-09-27 15:28
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
If Tookie wins I wonder if he will wear his Leafs jersey.



Dont have one, I do have Alfie and Spezza tho and in the next few years possibly Noesen!
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-4 #63 Tookie 2011-09-27 15:33
I cannot win what I dont enter.
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0 #64 spezzerman 2011-09-27 15:34
Never said their prospects were better, they are just ahead of ours, in a few years our will surpass theirs.

Never said Aulie was an All-Star, now you just look like a idiot, I said he had the potential to be one, at 6'5 200 with great skating ability, its rare.

Oh and if I was such a Leaf homer, I wouldnt have asked for the line up and would not have forgotten the Leafs BEST player when making lineups vs the Sens...hahah nice try tho douchbag...


Aww muffin, you okay? having a bad day? Maybe the leafs will win tonight, that should cheer you up.

Now back to reality, this is what you said;
"Aulie, another great prospect who is turning out to be a future All-Star"

calling me an idiot and a douchebag was a little much. at least be right if you're going to throw that out there.
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-4 #65 Tookie 2011-09-27 15:45
Quoting spezzerman:
Now back to reality, this is what you said;
"Aulie, another great prospect who is turning out to be a future All-Star"

calling me an idiot and a douchebag was a little much. at least be right if you're going to throw that out there.


Exactly, read into the sentence. Turning out to be a future All-Star. Never said he was and never said he would be.

Didnt know I had to spell it out for you, took you a long time to find those quote and all for nothing, lol. nice try tho.
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+1 #66 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-27 15:47
Calling someone MUFFIN crosses the line IMHO. What have we become?
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0 #67 boom 2011-09-27 15:48
Kids...let's stop with the name-calling. There are certain words I, for one, find very offensive...
I would think in this day and age, we would have progressed beyond calling out anyone, let alone each other, by using such crude and distasteful terms.
If you have any decency at all, please refrain - even in anger - from using the most hateful word of all "Leaf Fan"

Thank You.
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-4 #68 Tookie 2011-09-27 15:49
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Calling someone MUFFIN crosses the line IMHO. What have we become?


I know, weird, right? Its like SlickRick saying something relevant...
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+1 #69 WantEggRoll 2011-09-27 15:56
I don't have a twitter account to answer you Chirp. If you feel your HDTV isn't as crisp as some others it can be any number of things.

First off depending on when you bought it, it might only be 720p/1080i. If you only watch HD on TV and not blu-rays then that might also be the issue as Rogers/Bell/Who ever only broadcast in 1080i which would look worse then a blu-ray outputing at 1080p.

Another factor could be the type of TV you are using and the location in which you are watching it. LCD/LED = Brighter Areas, Plasma = Darker Areas (Unless you have one with glare protection built into the glass).

LED's look quite a bit better then their older LCD siblings in my opinion and so if you're comparing the two then the LED will always look sharper.

Plasma's if you buy the right one (Pioneer/Panaso nic) should always look the best providing they are in the right lighting environment due to: High contrast ratio/better black levels/higher speed.
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+3 #70 Johne 2011-09-27 16:03
@Chirp

usually it has to do with the settings on the tv, if you do some searching online, you can usually find the best color settings/bright ness/contrast, etc.

other than that, it would likely be the source that is the problem. I've seen where satellite HD is more compressed than cable and doesnt look as "HD" as cable.

just some thoughts.
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0 #71 WantEggRoll 2011-09-27 16:23
Seems I forgot I did have an account, but that post would've been waaaay too long for ye ol twitter.


Two hours until game time, so the real question is who will be tonight's singer?!
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0 #72 AlfieforMayor11 2011-09-27 16:23
Disagree with me if you wish but Tookie brings a great element to this comment section. Listen, anyone who takes the time out of their day to come follow Senschirp and consistently post their opinions here is obviously a huge Sens fan. We all want the same thing here and that's to have a great young contending team for years to come. Some of us think we already have enough in place to do so and others believe we need another group of highend draft picks to complete our rebuild.

There's nothing wrong with Tookie's outlook on the team. I dont understand why everyone get so worked up over what he says and he probably loves how crazy it makes all of you.

I'm sure there's on thing we can all agree on, and that is with a couple years of growing pains and development and infusion of young top end talent, this team will be a dangerous and exciting team each night they take the ice.

Go sens go ma' fuckas!!
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0 #73 newfie-xyz 2011-09-27 16:51
did gryba get assigned to the AHL? I didnt think that he would make the team, I just didnt see anything assigning him to the AHL
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+1 #74 Tcharger 2011-09-27 17:29
Another quality read


Seriously Chirp you gotta do something, the level of discussion here is horrible lately. Reading/discuss ing/commenting on your old site used to be the "highlight of my internet day"(that sounds uber retarded but can't come up with a better way to put it)....now even making it through the comment section is verging on impossible.

I know the idiotic comments that are sure to follow this...go nuts and reiterate my pointo put it)....now even making it through the comment section is verging on impossible.

I know the idiotic comments that are sure to follow this...go nuts and reiterate my point
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+2 #75 Johne 2011-09-27 17:50
WOW

http://twitter.com/HockeyBreak - Jason Spezza says he is open to being moved if that is what the Sens think is best but he is not hoping to be traded.
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0 #76 Canucnik 2011-09-27 17:50
T-Charger...you r very forcefull/uber assessment and Mr. Murray's of what is good/best for #7 is correct as it applies to the Ottawa Senators but the reality is if the kid doesn't make the big team he's going home, he as much as told you that. I think EriK just made it back up from the "A" in time both he and Alf thought home was a better place for him at that point last year.

As for your assessment of the Officiating...n ow that's one we can agree to disagree on...
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0 #77 Tcharger 2011-09-27 17:55
Quoting Johne:
WOW

ttp://twitter.com/HockeyBreak - Jason Spezza says he is open to being moved if that is what the Sens think is best but he is not hoping to be traded.


if that's legit I suspect more has been said then has been let on. There is no reason for him to say something like that(which kinda contradicts what he has said before)
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+1 #78 DrSens 2011-09-27 17:57
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+2 #79 Johne 2011-09-27 18:02
HockeyBreak is pretty legit, makes me wonder why that would even come up. He's not running a website, so he has no motive aside from breaking news on Twitter. It worries me that Spezza doesn't KNOW that he is a part of this team's future.
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0 #80 Streamer 2011-09-27 18:03
The game will probably be on
http://habsvision.blogspot.com/
if not try www.chilisports.strikehost.info
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0 #81 MoeDozer 2011-09-27 18:03
Quoting Tcharger:
Another quality read


Seriously Chirp you gotta do something, the level of discussion here is horrible lately. Reading/discussing/commenting on your old site used to be the "highlight of my internet day"(that sounds uber retarded but can't come up with a better way to put it)....now even making it through the comment section is verging on impossible.

I know the idiotic comments that are sure to follow this...go nuts and reiterate my pointo put it)....now even making it through the comment section is verging on impossible.

I know the idiotic comments that are sure to follow this...go nuts and reiterate my point

i second that notion. i remember just this past summer, reading the comments was actually "fun" even with Tookie's comments, he atleast gave proper arguments. today all i read is guys wanting x-player to make the team and guys making their dream lineups for the sens of what they think would work best..
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-1 #82 Tcharger 2011-09-27 18:06
I don't necassarily agree with this but he is by far our most valuable asset...would fetch us a tonne...and will be "old" when this team is realistically competing for the cup.

From a maximizing our talent perspective I see the value in moving him.
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+1 #83 Round Leaf 2011-09-27 18:20
Trading Spezza will not be beneficial to us. It isn't easy to get a #1 center (there isn't one available in next years draft) and Spezza has another 5-6 good seasons in him anyways.

I truly believe that we have enough prospects with the exception of one: top line scoring winger. Fortunately there are a ton of those available in the upcoming draft.
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0 #84 simple jack 2011-09-27 18:22
Quoting WantEggRoll:
I don't have a twitter account to answer you Chirp. If you feel your HDTV isn't as crisp as some others it can be any number of things.
First off depending on when you bought it......etc...

Plasma's if you buy the right one (Pioneer/Panasonic) should always look the best providing they are in the right lighting environment due to: High contrast ratio/better black levels/higher speed.


some games look ok, some look great, depends where the game is and what cameras are being used. calgary,vancouv er and toronto home games look way better then those in ottawa, edmonton and smaller fan based franchises. its a pitty but hopefully every game is in 1080p soon. the top us teams are 1080, pittsburgh, chicago,detroit ,boston,san jose philly are all great feeds, the rangers even offer 3d1080p home games.

cheers, go sens go
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0 #85 Hogan 2011-09-27 18:29
Quoting Tcharger:
I don't necassarily agree with this but he is by far our most valuable asset...would fetch us a tonne...and will be "old" when this team is realistically competing for the cup.

From a maximizing our talent perspective I see the value in moving him.


I won't disagree but even if that's the case you probably wouldn't want to move him this year when his stock is the lowest. You have to see how he produces this season and be damn confident you have a 1C in the wings
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0 #86 simple jack 2011-09-27 18:30
can we stop with the trade spezza talk, seriously.

i'm excited for his progress and i cant wait for our frachise to be led by a canadian, alfie has been a great leader, i hope spezza learned lots from him and takes this team to the promised land. alfie would be more then welcome as an assistant coach when he retires, i would like to see his leadership continue past his playing years.
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0 #87 Hogan 2011-09-27 18:32
Chilisports stream has abandoned us! Nooooooo
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0 #88 Hogan 2011-09-27 18:35
Stream: http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/89870_ottawa_toronto/
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0 #89 zachpraisethesweedes 2011-09-27 18:35
Just heard an interview with N.Foligno on the Team1200 and he said that all summer he trained with 2 power skating coaches...
I think that was by far his biggest weakness last year. If he can be quicker on his feet he could really become a dominant player down low. He could definetly make a case to be a top 6 forward. Or at the very least make his stock rise for us to be able to trade him away and get the franchise a solid asset like a 2nd or 3rd rnd pick.
Personally I would love him to play on the 3rd line LW and have Zibanejad play centre and Greening play RW. That could be an elite physicall/fast/ skilled 3rd line.
If we could then have either Regin or DaCosta play well in the 2nd line spot between Michalek and Alfie. And have Butler and Filatov play on Spezza's wings. 4th line could be a big tough bruising one with Z.Konopka Z.Smith C.Neil that would be extremely tough to play against. You would then have Condra and Winchester as your scratches in case of injuries
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0 #90 Round Leaf 2011-09-27 18:36
Quoting Streamer:
The game will probably be on
http://habsvision.blogspot.com/
if not try www.chilisports.strikehost.info


the habsvision stream is perfect
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0 #91 senskarlsson57 2011-09-27 18:46
http://habsvision.blogspot.com/

stream for the game!

and why the hell does everyone call rundblad "rooondbad"????
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+2 #92 senskarlsson57 2011-09-27 18:48
ohhhh boooooy, whatta dangle by filatov!
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0 #93 Hogan 2011-09-27 18:49
I wouldve loved if Filatov scored there after Bowen was talking about him
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0 #94 Round Leaf 2011-09-27 18:54
must say... for 'Leafs TV' the colour commentator sure is giving a lot of praise to the Senators prospects. Not complaining though...
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0 #95 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-09-27 18:55
BBIIIIIIGGGG ZZZZZZZZ
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0 #96 senskarlsson57 2011-09-27 18:55
zibby
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0 #97 Robert 2011-09-27 18:56
Woo Mika! Great play by Neil too!
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0 #98 AlfieforMayor11 2011-09-27 18:59
Filatov, Zibby, Cowen and Rundblad are going to make things really interesting when the last cuts have to be made. In my opinion I would love to see all four of those guys plus Da Costa make the team. This team needs skill and those 5 players have boatloads of it. Problem is we have too many other bums in our organization on one way deals that will keep these young hungry players out of the line-up.
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0 #99 Mr Hockey 2011-09-27 19:00
On Zibanejad's official website (http://www.mikazibanejadofficial.com) It says his name is pronounced Zee-Bon-Uh-Jod. Have we been getting it wrong all this time??
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0 #100 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-09-27 19:00
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Filatov, Zibby, Cowen and Rundblad are going to make things really interesting when the last cuts have to be made. In my opinion I would love to see all four of those guys plus Da Costa make the team. This team needs skill and those 5 players have boatloads of it. Problem is we have too many other bums in our organization one way deals that will keep these young hungry players out of the line-up.


couldnt agree more. cant forget about da costa too.

in my opinion winchester, regin, and kuba can step aside and make room.
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-4 #101 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:01
Oh my...I might be eating crow tomorrow!

Neil, Smith, Dagauvins, Zibby, who would of thunk it!!
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0 #102 Sudsy 2011-09-27 19:06
WTF is Rundblad doing out there....terrib le
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+1 #103 WantEggRoll 2011-09-27 19:08
Man who else is excited to see Filatov/Spezza play together more often after watching this first period?
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0 #104 Round Leaf 2011-09-27 19:09
Quoting Tookie19:
Oh my...I might be eating crow tomorrow!

Neil, Smith, Dagauvins, Zibby, who would of thunk it!!


aw man... can I still give you a hard time for it?
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+1 #105 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 19:09
Who said Filatov needs to be on 4th line ....Wow
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0 #106 Robert 2011-09-27 19:13
Dirrrty goal
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-3 #107 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:14
Hahah beauty goal, eh!!

SCRAMBLE!!!
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0 #108 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-09-27 19:16
Anybody watchin the game via Leafs TV?

It's amazing how many critics doubt the Sens...
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0 #109 senskarlsson57 2011-09-27 19:16
Quoting Mr Hockey:
On Zibanejad's official website (http://www.mikazibanejadofficial.com) It says his name is pronounced Zee-Bon-Uh-Jod. Have we been getting it wrong all this time??

just call him MIKACHU! :)
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-4 #110 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:17
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Anybody watchin the game via Leafs TV?

It's amazing how many critics doubt the Sens...



Watching it on 451 Rogers, pretty fair commentary.
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0 #111 hq 2011-09-27 19:17
that was a sweet pass from daugavins.....i s he ever going to get a chance with the big club ever? he has been in the system for quite some time.
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0 #112 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:20
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Tookie19:
Oh my...I might be eating crow tomorrow!

Neil, Smith, Dagauvins, Zibby, who would of thunk it!!


aw man... can I still give you a hard time for it?


If the Sens win, sure you can, rip me good, dont hold back.
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0 #113 Mat 2011-09-27 19:22
Strong case for Z-bad to stay with the big club... Boy oh boy! And not that Da Costa hasn't played well but Mika definitely has the edge if it comes down to one or the other...

Also very impressed by Cowen, Rundblad, Filatov, Smith and Hoffman.

I hope that level of determination continues into the regular season.
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+2 #114 Johne 2011-09-27 19:23
Quoting hq:
that was a sweet pass from daugavins.....is he ever going to get a chance with the big club ever? he has been in the system for quite some time.


He should be one of the first callups on offense.
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0 #115 Round Leaf 2011-09-27 19:23
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Tookie19:
Oh my...I might be eating crow tomorrow!

Neil, Smith, Dagauvins, Zibby, who would of thunk it!!


aw man... can I still give you a hard time for it?


If the Sens win, sure you can, rip me good, dont hold back.


Thanks man, 'preciate it
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0 #116 Mat 2011-09-27 19:25
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Anybody watchin the game via Leafs TV?

It's amazing how many critics doubt the Sens...



Watching it on 451 Rogers, pretty fair commentary.


451 is the same as 22. Its Rogers Local Ottawa. Doubt they would be critical of the home team...
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0 #117 senskarlsson57 2011-09-27 19:26
future possible top 6 centres:

Spezza, Zibanejad, Da Costa, Silfverbeg, Regin (maybe)....wher e the hell r we gonna put these guys?
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0 #118 simple jack 2011-09-27 19:33
not sure why lehner looks shaky, juggling pucks, not tracking them all the way, etc.

c'mon lehner step it up, lets beat those leafs!
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0 #119 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-09-27 19:35
Wow.

The Sens are good. Filatov is sick
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0 #120 AlfieforMayor11 2011-09-27 19:45
Filatov has easily been the best player on the ice in this game. Gotta love that guys speed. Wow...

On the negative side of things, how come the kids are outshining the vets in this game. Not the least bit impressed with Spezza, Gonch, or Karlsson tonight.
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-5 #121 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:45
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Wow.

The Sens are good. Filatov is sick


He is -1 and 0pts but yeah, sick I guess...
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+1 #122 Robert 2011-09-27 19:50
Oh come on Tookie, a player's value is much more than just stats. Filatov has had a few very good opportunities. Are you watching the game?
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+1 #123 Mat 2011-09-27 19:50
Butler needs a goal...
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+1 #124 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-09-27 19:52
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Wow.

The Sens are good. Filatov is sick


He is -1 and 0pts but yeah, sick I guess...


This doesn't prove that he isn't good.
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-3 #125 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:54
That Regin shoulder injury might be exactly what some of you may want...certainl y gives Zibanejad or Da costa a much better chance now!!
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-5 #126 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:56
Quoting Robert:
Oh come on Tookie, a player's value is much more than just stats. Filatov has had a few very good opportunities. Are you watching the game?


Shoulda coulda woulda dont win you games, points do, he has 0.
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+3 #127 AlfieforMayor11 2011-09-27 19:56
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Wow.

The Sens are good. Filatov is sick


He is -1 and 0pts but yeah, sick I guess...


This doesn't prove that he isn't good.


Spezza is -2 and 0pts... I guess he isn't any good either ;)
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-4 #128 Tookie 2011-09-27 19:58
Not tonight he isnt...
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+1 #129 AlfieforMayor11 2011-09-27 20:00
Hoffman has mad wheels. He's going to tear it up in Bingo this year and who knows, next year he may make the big team. As exciting as this years training camp is, just imagine how much better next years will be.
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0 #130 Robert 2011-09-27 20:02
Different rules for different players, right Tooks?
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+1 #131 AlfieforMayor11 2011-09-27 20:02
Quoting Tookie19:
Not tonight he isnt...


Yah he's been absolute shit tonight haha can't deny that Filatov has shown up to play though.
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-4 #132 Sensnation 2011-09-27 20:02
Quoting Tookie19:
That Regin shoulder injury might be exactly what some of you may want...certainly gives Zibanejad or Da costa a much better chance now!!


Or both! :)
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-4 #133 Tookie 2011-09-27 20:04
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Hoffman has mad wheels. He's going to tear it up in Bingo this year and who knows, next year he may make the big team. As exciting as this years training camp is, just imagine how much better next years will be.


Hasnt done much with his 8 minutes so far, not even a shot on net...
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-4 #134 Sensnation 2011-09-27 20:05
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Hoffman has mad wheels. He's going to tear it up in Bingo this year and who knows, next year he may make the big team. As exciting as this years training camp is, just imagine how much better next years will be.


It's great to have a preseason where it's about who outshines who, instead of just who shows up. Great competitions going on, missed that the last few years!
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-3 #135 Tookie 2011-09-27 20:07
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Tookie19:
That Regin shoulder injury might be exactly what some of you may want...certainly gives Zibanejad or Da costa a much better chance now!!


Or both! :)


Thats an intriguing possibility if Regin is out longterm.
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-3 #136 Tookie 2011-09-27 20:10
Well there ya go, word was Filatov slacked off in the 2nd and had his shifts given to Zibanejad who is flying.

But yeah he's sick, maybe with a chest cold?
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0 #137 Robert 2011-09-27 20:24
Greening is just stinking it up today, 0 pts, 1 shot on net and -1! How horrible... And yet he has 14 mins of ice time.

Tooks, you're too smart to fall prey to simplistic stats.

Filatov'll probably be talked to during 2nd intermission and will pick it up on in the third. He doesn't seem to have a lot of stamina- looks like he gets tired quickly.
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+3 #138 Robert 2011-09-27 20:28
My god, Cole's such a partisan dick.

"Spezza, only 57 (?) points last season. the lowest of all team leaders".

Completely neglected that he missed 20 games.
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+2 #139 senskarlsson57 2011-09-27 20:35
is it just me or did the commentator get pissed when the leafs were on a 3 on 2 and they got caught offside...?
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0 #140 Hogan 2011-09-27 20:35
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+2 #141 Ryan 2011-09-27 20:41
I thought that Neil hit was clean wtf is wrong with the Toronto announcers?
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0 #142 hq 2011-09-27 20:42
lol listen to the leafs broadcast argument: Neil walked into grabovski...... so who is at fault here then? neil or grabovski lol.......jeeze open ice hit on the leafs glassware and thou shalt be suspended. legal hit, neil didnt even do anything, just stood there.
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0 #143 Ryan 2011-09-27 20:43
It seems like the announcers are poised cuz a Toronto player got hurt on the hit that's y lol
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0 #144 Ryan 2011-09-27 20:46
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0 #145 hq 2011-09-27 20:51
cowen's a beast and is definitely a thorn in the leafs' side and is willing to take ANY OF THEM ON. i hope some game we see all of konopka, neil, smith, cowen and carkner on the ice at the same time to absolutely pulverize the opposing team.
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0 #146 hq 2011-09-27 20:56
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0 #147 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-27 21:01
Is it just me or is Butler looking pretty disappointing thus far? I really hope he can pick it up in the reg season...
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+1 #148 Robert 2011-09-27 21:03
Well, the Leafs won, and they deserved it. They played the better game and had less defensive breakdowns. There's still a long way to go for the Sens' blue line, and their forward prospects still have lots to learn, but it's just a matter of time before they develop into full-time NHL players.
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0 #149 Mat 2011-09-27 21:03
Fucking pathetic effort through and through.

Our D needs to cut the cutesy-showboat ing bullshit and start playing a sound defensive game or we are going to look horrendous all year.
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+1 #150 Muckalt 2011-09-27 21:11
The LeafsTV broadcast (which I streamed for free) just had an interview with some putz TML player. McCarthur I think. He said Neil was going directly at Grabovski and it was intended as a cheap shot. Maybe they should ask who skated into whom. Interesting to see if the new sheriff hands out a suspension. Joe Bowen, the Toronto announcer is the world's biggest homer. Thankfully, they have put him on a station that is designated for Leaf fans who are willing to pay to get more Leafs exposure than is generally available to the Toronto public.
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+2 #151 Johne 2011-09-27 21:12
@Mat

Did you see who was in net and a good defense is also offense.
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-1 #152 NickG 2011-09-27 21:44
Wow. Is Neil ever making poor decisions lately. Oh well. I'm sure his suspension will clear up a spot for someone who wants it.

I don't know what highlight you guys were watching, but that was clearly a cheap shot. Not a 'coincidental' collision.
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+1 #153 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-09-27 21:48
Guys. It was an exhibition game.

Be patient.
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0 #154 Robert 2011-09-27 21:48
Nick,
If that was a cheap shot, than the accidental elbow to Foligno's head in the 2nd was an intent to decapitate and should demand not less than over 9000 games suspended.
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0 #155 Round Leaf 2011-09-27 21:49
Mat

Dunno what you're talking about. First of all, the team had energy and was generating chances until the midway point of the third period where they slowed down. There were moments when Karlsson, Rundblad, Filatov and Zibanejad were putting on posession clinics in the Leafs zone; I'm sure you would have preferred to see them dump it in and break off for a change.
The worst defensive lapse was the giveaway that led to the first goal, and that was Spezza, not one of our defenseman.

I wasn't expecting the team to win, but I'm pleased to see that they put forth a solid effort.
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+1 #156 mikep 2011-09-27 21:51
To thus who had to suffer thorough the Leaf's TV broadcast, I feel your pain. Bowen and company, offer no insight about the game or it's players, it's non-stop Leaf bias with every comment, even if the replay contradicts what there saying. The worst part is having center ice, but being forced to watch Sens-Leafs game’s the entire season. Any thought as to why Spezza has played so few games, with his line mates still subject to change?
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-3 #157 Andrews Theory 2011-09-27 21:59
just home from the game.

had to browse a few of the comments before weighing in.

1) in game experience is definitely improved this year. cheerleaders were out in force but there was definitely alot more to it.
2) filatov looked to be the most dangerous player on the sens all night, just a matter of time before he racks up some points.
3) not sure what the deal is with Karlsson, maybe trying to do to much or maybe he's easing into the season but he wasnt great tonight.
4) rundblad is getting better quickly and looks like he'll develop pretty fast by staying in NA.
5)Lehner is not ready for prime time, a year in Bingo will go a long way. he seems to be dropping down a bit early leaving the top of the net open and he needs to work on his strength(supris ing) in terms of holding the post when he's down

loved daug tonight, although he seems to play smaller than his frame.
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+1 #158 token 2011-09-27 22:47
Quoting SlickRick:
Quoting Tookie19:
Hmm well going by SC's Leafs lineup, I'd say 4-2 Leafs.


Nobody cares what you think and if you want the Leaf line-up go ImaLeafHomer.com and go away.


Its posts like this that keep me from contributing on here...Just cause a "realist" posts a prediction of a sens loss he is automatically a leaf troll?? For crying out loud every one is titled to their own opinion and if I think the sens are going to lose I should be able to say so with out being insulted by the title "Leaf Fan". To be honest, looking at the line up this afternoon my first thought was, we are once again icing a weaker team and if you din't think the same then I wouldnt mind knowing who your dealer is cause what ever you are smoking could come in handy every now and then...
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+2 #159 111519 2011-09-27 22:51
spezza,filatov, alfredsson,zibb y,and rundblad, can all make you jump out of your seat with there playmaking skills. This is going to be one fast, exciting team to watch this year and is going to surprise a lot of teams. I watched the game and honestly if that is toronto's basic lineup they are in for a long season. We gave them a game with rookies and our number three goalie. I dont know what will be more fun to watch, our Sens, or the leafs sputter to a 10th place finish.
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0 #160 token 2011-09-27 22:56
Anyways, Just got back from the game and man am I excited hockey is back! We had some real jump in the first which totally took me by surprise...We kinda lost our game towards the end of the first and then some horrible calls by the men in stripes kinda turned the game their way ...I guess it is the preseason for the refs as well..

Guys that impressed:
Cowen: Kid is a freaking beast out there! No way this kid doesnt start with the team.
Filatov: Smooth with some dandy puck handling skills..Hope him and Spezza start to click soon.
Lee: Nothing fancy about this kid but he keeps his game nice and simple and was pretty solid tonight.
Smith: Was skating hard tonight. And the play leading to the goal of his was sheer beauty.
Zibby: I really hope we let this guy play here. The guy is alot bigger than i expected and plays hard. I guess with Regins injury the decision to keep him here might be a little easier.
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0 #161 token 2011-09-27 23:02
continued from post 160


Guys that were meh..

Rundblad: Zero Confidence! Hope we can convince him to start in the AHL so that he builds confidence and gets used to the smaller ice.

Daugavins: Seemed like he was a chicken with his head chopped off in the neutral zone..had no clue what was going on... Noticed him for all the not so good reasons.

Greening: Dint notice him on the ice and given he was on the first line that shouldnt have been the case..


All in all a good back and forth game. I wasn't really expecting the win but i think our boys played on par with what was 80% of the leafs starting roster. Tis going to be a season of close games like tonight and we might not win too many of them but the games sure are going to be ridiculously exciting. If we had better finishers, tonight's end result might have been different.

Cant wait till opening night.
Go sens go!
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-3 #162 Andrews Theory 2011-09-27 23:08
Cowen is absolutely a lock, I'd throw him into the top 4. he has really rounded out his game. kid is still going to make mistakes but i'd rather suffer through his mistakes than some of our vets.

Same with Smith, I'll take him over Kelly in the third slot any day, he simply brings more to the table and has a much better set of hands.

still not sure on what is best for zibby. as good as he's been he may develop faster playing in sweden. the transition to the north american style is a non factor for him so ithink its just a matter of continuing to develop offensive consistency in my opinion
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0 #163 token 2011-09-27 23:08
Quoting Andrews Theory:
just home from the game.

3) not sure what the deal is with Karlsson, maybe trying to do to much or maybe he's easing into the season but he wasnt great tonight.

5)Lehner is not ready for prime time, a year in Bingo will go a long way. he seems to be dropping down a bit early leaving the top of the net open and he needs to work on his strength(suprising) in terms of holding the post when he's down

loved daug tonight, although he seems to play smaller than his frame.


Agree that EK dint look at his best tonight and thought that might have been due to him trying to out skate everyone on the ice. Agree with your thoughts on Lehner as well..

Not so much about daug though...but I could have been influenced by fellow sens fans around me pointing out his every mistake..
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-3 #164 Andrews Theory 2011-09-27 23:49
heres what id like to see in the final preseason game

spezza, filatov, 9mm
dacosta,zibby, alfie


my thoughts on daug were more specific to the offensive zone especially given who his line mates were and his ice time. funny, two people can watch the same game and have different view points on things.
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+1 #165 token 2011-09-28 00:37
hehe..funny indeed...my thoughts were more specific to his play in the defensive zone since we were seated homeside in the 100s and so saw him for 2/3rd of the game and more specifically in the 3rd where we were held in our zone for lengthy periods of time...

This actually brings up another topic...I know sitting in the 100s is something people drool over and it is nice to be that close to the bench/players.. . but man do you miss alot of the game at the other end of the ice...Pretty sure people must have already discussed this over the years...but I rarely get to sit in the 100s and honestly i'd rather be up in the 200s..
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0 #166 SensChirp 2011-09-28 06:23
Today's post will be coming a little bit later than usual. Looks like there is no shortage of topics until then.
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+1 #167 FBP 2011-09-28 06:53
I'm upset with Peter Regin.
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0 #168 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-28 07:27
Should Regin be out for longer than 2 weeks, we will no doubt see both Da Costa and Zibanejad, duke it out with Foligno for 2c position.

Let's hope that Regin is not out for more than 2 weeks.

Rockin Robert
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+4 #169 Johne 2011-09-28 08:07
Lets see who the biggest point producers have been as of late. Z Smith and C Neil. Does that mean they're destined for stardom? No. It means it's preseason. Both of them will be on the 4th line, they will do very little to contribute offensively. We will see both of them take stupid penalties to drive all of us crazy. This is preseason.
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-3 #170 Andrews Theory 2011-09-28 08:09
[quote name="token"]

so i was front row 200's visiting end last night but i have half a season in the 100's same end.

Ive sat pretty much everywhere, i think its fun to mix it up. sitting against the glass you miss alot but you also see and hear alot more when the play is around you so thats cool. club seats are really the best of everything but sitting up in the penthouse boxes is a great experience as well.

ultimately, all of the seats at scotia bank offer something a little bit different and a different perspective on the play.
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-3 #171 Tookie 2011-09-28 08:15
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Should Regin be out for longer than 2 weeks, we will no doubt see both Da Costa and Zibanejad, duke it out with Foligno for 2c position.

Let's hope that Regin is not out for more than 2 weeks.

Rockin Robert


What??? Lets DO hope he is out for the season!!!
Would you rather see Regin or Zibanejad?
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0 #172 ShaunK 2011-09-28 08:24
I dont think neil should be suspended. When you look at the replays of the hit, he doesn't actually make contact with Grabovski's head.
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-4 #173 Andrews Theory 2011-09-28 08:34
Quoting Johne:
Lets see who the biggest point producers have been as of late. Z Smith and C Neil. Does that mean they're destined for stardom? No. It means it's preseason. Both of them will be on the 4th line, they will do very little to contribute offensively. We will see both of them take stupid penalties to drive all of us crazy. This is preseason.


actually, smith is pencilled into the 3rd line ctr position...he has alot more offensive punch than kelly did (not saying i didn't like kelly...)

and yes Tookie, if I had to choose between Regin and Zibby, I'd take Zibby. I think peoples expectations on Regin are way off base, he'd probably excel in the KHL or another league but he's not a ctr in the NHL at least not a 2nd line ctr.
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0 #174 boom 2011-09-28 08:52
Quoting PraiseAlfie84:
Is it just me or is Butler looking pretty disappointing thus far? I really hope he can pick it up in the reg season...

I'm glad someone else has noticed - he has been pathetic. It's as if he thinks he has a spot guaranteed. I have to think the Senators staff is disappointed too. Perhaps he needs to go back down to Bingo?
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+3 #175 Johne 2011-09-28 09:05
Not to excuse everyone from this but I think there may be few factors at play.

Conditioning level

Some of the players just might not be back to the conditioning level that they were at last season. Not everyone conditions like the elite athletes.

Consistency

Not being in the lineup every night or getting the same amount of minutes is probably difficult to get back to the form you were in before.

Its preseason

If you're a shoo in, preseason doesn't mean that much. Terrible mentality, but I bet you some players think it.
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0 #176 boom 2011-09-28 09:09
I guess that's our point - Butler is not a shoo-in.
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+2 #177 MethotToMyMadness 2011-09-28 09:27
Hey Lads

Sens came out much stronger at the beginning and fell off in the 2nd and 3rd. That's not to say they didn't continue to compete. Stats wise they matched up ok, ended the game with with a close shot count, more hits, 31 faceoff wins vs 30. What killed them were the giveaways, 15 vs 4. In a quick back and forth transition game like last night, giveaways will make or break you.

But don't worry fellow Sens fans, it's only pre-season. When you got teams like Montreal, Anaheim, Jersey, Rangers, Chicago, Detroit, LA and Vancouver who are all expected to compete (according to most) with only 1 or 2 wins, it's a clear indication that you can't put too much stock into what happens. Remember, the pre-season is more of a tool used to give young guys a chance to play some NHL minutes, even though for the most part, they are not always playing against bonafide NHL starters. With Neil and Smith leading in points, it's obvious.
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0 #178 383 2011-09-28 10:37
One guy that I really felt was lackluster last night and for the whole pre season pretty much has been Bobby Butler.

He is just so soft on the puck, really hope he turns it around once the real games start.

As for MZ93, keep him in the big leagues. Ask yourself this, if you're picking a team for pick up hockey, who do you take to play on your team, Da Costa, Regin or MZ93?

MZ93 everytime.
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+1 #179 A Train 2011-09-28 10:40
I'm really stuck on the Zibanejad question. Realistically there's not a lot to look forward to this season. Watching him and Cowen play and develop would at least provide some entertainment value and talking points. Not the reason to have him in the NHL this year...but I'm just sayin.

Will trust in Murray and MacLean to make the right more for the right reasons here.
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+3 #180 miguel 2011-09-28 10:40
my 2 cents
impressive
Cowen- must be top 4 he is consistantly playing very well
Borowiecki- may not make it this year but he is very composed for a rookie
Da Costa- as promised
Zibby- will be our next star
Smith- will fit in 3rd line nicely
Spezza- give him someone to play with
Condra- picked up where he left off
Michalek-better than ever in a sens uniform
Dissappointing
Butler - looks awful- not top 6 and showing he cannot play with Spezza
Kuba-proving he can no longer play NHL level
Greening-he is not top 6 Smith is better then him in PS
Regin-oh man if it is his shoulder this could hamper his career
Rundblad-shut up about SEL and earn your way on the team by hard work in th A
and finally as much as this hurts
Alfie-age is catching up to him, he will be good, but not our old Alfie superhero
Karlsson-he is good for a left winger, but less than par as a D-man
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+1 #181 conservativeHippie 2011-09-28 10:41
Quoting madpajamma:
But don't worry fellow Sens fans, it's only pre-season.


EXACTLY! It's PRE-SEASON. Remember BRANDON BOCHENSKI anyone? The guy who lit it up during preseason, even went so far as to say he could score and pass where Spezza, Heatley and Alfie were one-dimensional in comparison? Where was he come game 20?

Aside from seeing what the young guys are capable of, it means NOTHING, 5-0 or 0-5, you still start the year at 0-0-0. And even with seeing what the kids are capable of doesn't mean they will be able to keep it up in game 2, yet alone game 20.

I guess I'm one of the minority who not only said "Rebuild it!" but is actually sticking to it. People gyrating now and calling for heads to roll are going to be in for a very difficult two-three years.
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-4 #182 Andrews Theory 2011-09-28 11:10
well, not to be all doom and gloom cuz i'm legitimately excited about the direction of the organization and the insertion of youth but i'm glad to see some of the conversation on here has come back down to earth a bit.

I fully expect the team to improve over the course of the year but the team is what it is... support them, cheer for them to win every night but don't shit all over them if they fail to meet your expectations. The main reason this camp has been fairly competitive is that we don't currently have players that are lights out better than everyone else with the exception of spezza.
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+1 #183 senskarlsson57 2011-09-28 11:10
Quoting miguel:


Spezza- give him someone to play with
Condra- picked up where he left off
Michalek-better than ever in a sens uniform
Dissappointing
Butler - looks awful- not top 6 and showing he cannot play with Spezza
Kuba-proving he can no longer play NHL level
Greening-he is not top 6 Smith is better then him in PS
Regin-oh man if it is his shoulder this could hamper his career
Rundblad-shut up about SEL and earn your way on the team by hard work in th A
and finally as much as this hurts
Alfie-age is catching up to him, he will be good, but not our old Alfie superhero
Karlsson-he is good for a left winger, but less than par as a D-man


Remember when karlsson was disappointing in the pre-season and everyone thought it was a sophmore slump?...he wen on to score 45 points...hes an elite offensive defnsemen, stop trying to turn him into a forward, its not gonna happen.
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0 #184 Johne 2011-09-28 11:15
Does Zibanejad make this team better? Yes

Will he be even better next season? Yes

I think Zibanejad and Rundblad should both be on this team, come midseason I think we'll see them both be in NHL form.

But with all the contracts we have it makes that even more difficult. Tough call for the Murrays and MacLean but I do think they'll make the right choice.
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+3 #185 Johne 2011-09-28 11:19
McKenna on waivers.
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0 #186 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-28 11:46
Quoting miguel:

Dissappointing
Butler - looks awful- not top 6 and showing he cannot play with Spezza
Kuba-proving he can no longer play NHL level
Greening-he is not top 6 Smith is better then him in PS
Regin-oh man if it is his shoulder this could hamper his career
Rundblad-shut up about SEL and earn your way on the team by hard work in th A


I would add Lehner to the list that have not impressed much so far. I can't remember one of our goalies having such tremendous rebound control problems as Robin did last night. Hopefully just getting the timing and relaxes honed still this early into the campaign, but you wont win many games giving away 2nd and 3rd chances on almost every attack - especially against a decent "garbage goal team" like Toronto.
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+3 #187 miguel 2011-09-28 12:27
I am not saying that he is not gifted offensively, only that his defensive play is not existant, he is afraid to play in our own end, does not know where to be or even seem to care, he must realize that we will not win 6-5 games, and that to compete he must learn how to play in our own end as a small d-man ala Rafalski or a Dan Boyle.
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-4 #188 Andrews Theory 2011-09-28 12:31
further to Jabs comment yesterday; I love that there are people on this site that repeatedly give a thumbs down to the same people without any ability to post their reason for disagreeing.

you know who you are...

it's okay to speak your mind. If you disagree with what someone has said, the point of the site is for you to explain why you disagree, that is called a "discussion"...

this is called the "internet" and unlike your day to day routine of getting physically picked on, I can promise you, no one is waiting to stick your head in the urinal.

feel free to jump in and tell someone why they are wrong...
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+1 #189 Sandy 2011-09-28 12:50
Quoting Tookie19:
Well there ya go, word was Filatov slacked off in the 2nd and had his shifts given to Zibanejad who is flying.

But yeah he's sick, maybe with a chest cold?


Gee tookie... you have an inside track to the coaching staff? Basically the whole team stopped playing in the 2nd & 3rd..especially the D and Lehner. Is Lehner going through the sophomore jinks? Karlsson was the worst player on the ice tonight.
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+1 #190 Sandy 2011-09-28 12:54
Quoting hq:
lol listen to the leafs broadcast argument: Neil walked into grabovski......so who is at fault here then? neil or grabovski lol.......jeeze open ice hit on the leafs glassware and thou shalt be suspended. legal hit, neil didnt even do anything, just stood there.



Question is.. what if Neil was the one that got hurt on that play... what would the Leafs broadcaster have to say then? Grabo should be suspended? My guess is no.
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+1 #191 Sandy 2011-09-28 12:56
Quoting Robert:
Well, the Leafs won, and they deserved it. They played the better game and had less defensive breakdowns. There's still a long way to go for the Sens' blue line, and their forward prospects still have lots to learn, but it's just a matter of time before they develop into full-time NHL players.



Did you see the lineups? The Leafs had the regular season lineup (minus Connolly) -- the Sens not as much and with a rookie in net?
Of course the Leafs would win.. If they didn't.. they had better start looking as to why they didn't.
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0 #192 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-28 13:03
Hey Chirp,

Any further update on Regin's left arm or shoulder ??

Rockin Robert
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+5 #193 Sandy 2011-09-28 13:08
If the Sens can play a full 60 min like they played the first 20 min they will be in some close games this season. Probably won't win many but the other team will know they were in a fight to the finish.

According to an article in the Ottawa Sun by Don Brennan (yeah I know) Murray went to the league to try to adjust those Leaf games. He was turned down. Now that's a surprise.

It really makes you wonder how a computer having to schedule thousands of games.. can have division rivals playing all 6 games with those games being a back-to-back situation for one team. To me... it would be almost impossible.

What if that had been the situation between Boston/Buffalo fighting for division title. That would sure tilt the scales in favour of 1 team.

Say Toronto takes 10 of a possible 12 pts from the Sens and puts Buffalo out of the playoffs especially when Buffalo is probably the better team.

Advantage to the Leafs this season.
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0 #194 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-28 13:16
Quoting Sandy:

It really makes you wonder how a computer having to schedule thousands of games.. can have division rivals playing all 6 games with those games being a back-to-back situation for one team. To me... it would be almost impossible.

What if that had been the situation between Boston/Buffalo fighting for division title. That would sure tilt the scales in favour of 1 team.

Say Toronto takes 10 of a possible 12 pts from the Sens and puts Buffalo out of the playoffs especially when Buffalo is probably the better team.

Advantage to the Leafs this season.


This whole issue with our schedule is a disgrace and I can't begin to tell you how much it pisses me off.
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+2 #195 miguel 2011-09-28 14:26
This brings me back to an old argument that I have with people. I cannot tell you how many times Ottawa is on the short end of penalty calls in a game. I have no problem with the obvious calls, but the Sens by no means are a physcal goon it up team, but we seem to get more penalties against than powerplays. The worst being the borderline calls against the Sens.
And yes I know I am whining, but its true.

Which now brings me to these back to back games vs our nemesis & biggest rivals.
I am willing to be anything had this been reversed, it would not have been approved, b/c the Laffs said so! Why should we Sens and fans have to accept this obvious slight?
We are not going to have a good year, and to have to face the Laffs at a disadvantage, and potentially lose those games will take away some of our potential hi-lites and forced to absorb further ridicule from those Laff fans!
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