Monday, 26 September 2011 18:49

Jets Score 3-1 Win in Newfoundland

The early start time seemed to catch the Sens a little flat footed as they struggled to create much of anything in the first two periods.

It was a different story in the third period though as Zibanejad score a goal on the power play and seemed to give the Sens some life.  Too little too late though as the Jets added another goal on their way to a 3-1 victory.

This was an important game for Zibanejad and he did not disappoint.  The kid was solid at both ends of the ice and showed some impressive flashes of skill, particularly on his goal early in the third.

One thing that is looking more and more certain with each game is that Jared Cowen is going to make this hockey team.  He was a physical force all night and made life extremely difficult on the Jets forwards.

David Rundblad also had a strong outing and seemed to get better as the game moved along.  I'm not scout but it seems like the biggest thing for Rundblad is confidence.  He needs to trust his skill level because when he does, he is on another level. The poise he showed with the puck in the third period was phenomenal.

A couple of veterans left the game with minor injuries.  Chris Phillips felt tightness in his back while Auld was dealing with cramping in his legs.  The team is expected to announce some cuts when they return to Ottawa.

Hats of to Conception Bay South and St. John's for doing such a fantastic job of hosting this event.  Really cool to have the Senators take part in this event this year and hopefully they can do more of the same in the future.

Sens are right back at it tomorrow night when they host the Toronto Maple Leafs  in the second last game of the preseason.

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0 #1 NickG 2011-09-26 18:01
I look forward to the rematch here in Winnipeg in November. I'll be in the stands.

That 3rd period was intense. Nice to see some emotion after the vanilla first 2 periods.
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0 #2 Bruinblaster 2011-09-26 18:09
Not much of a game. Did like Rundblads third period offensively. Cowen gave the puck away more in the third but to his defence he probably played 35 minutes. Karllson is great in the offensive zone, ends there. Carkner is terrible defensively. Gryba needs to get his angles and timing right before hitting but played a solid game at defence. Not bad for a first game.
I think Cowen is the guy to stay up at this point. KUBA Carkner Karlson, Rundlad, Phillips....alo t of minuses on the statsheet.
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0 #3 Hogan 2011-09-26 18:10
Zibanejad is looking more confident and should be on the roster this season.

I think Runblad is making a case too. I can't recall a year where Ottawa had so many prospects to get excited about as they do now.

They are showing a lot of poise, I say let them make their mistakes and learn in the NHL, the pressure isn't on them and the team, as someone mentioned earlier this summer.
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-4 #4 111519 2011-09-26 18:13
Ok so it's now obvious that Cowen, Zibby, and Rundblad be on this team. None of these guys are going to benefit or get better by playing anywhere but the NHL. I also believe Zibby should start on wing not centre.

This line up could make some noise and surprise alot of so called experts.

Filatov Spezza Butler
Michalek Dacosta Alfie
Foligno Regin Zibby
Neil Konopka Smith
Greening

Phillips Karlsson
Gonchar Rundblad
Cowen Lee
Kuba

1st PP Unit

Zibby Spezza Alfie
Gonchar Karlsson

2nd PP unit

Filatov Regin Michalek
Cowen Rundblad
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-6 #5 Tookie 2011-09-26 18:17
Another snoozefest!

Were having so much trouble scoring and when we do its ugly as hell, I think people are gonna get a huge slap in the face when they expect us to score 3 goals a game or watch entertaining hockey. In our 5 pre-season games, maybe 1 was entertaining. A slew of mistakes and bad plays, lack of scoring, shaky defensive play.

Oh well, since were in the rebuild, another 8-12 draft choices wouldnt hurt again, especially if we land Yakupov!!!
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0 #6 Sandy 2011-09-26 18:18
Quoting Hogan:
Zibanejad is looking more confident and should be on the roster this season.

I think Runblad is making a case too. I can't recall a year where Ottawa had so many prospects to get excited about as they do now.

They are showing a lot of poise, I say let them make their mistakes and learn in the NHL, the pressure isn't on them and the team, as someone mentioned earlier this summer.


Exactly... completely agree.
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0 #7 Sandy 2011-09-26 18:21
Quoting 111519:
Ok so it's now obvious that Cowen, Zibby, and Rundblad be on this team. None of these guys are going to benefit or get better by playing anywhere but the NHL. I also believe Zibby should start on wing not centre.

This line up could make some noise and surprise alot of so called experts.

Filatov Spezza Butler
Michalek Dacosta Alfie
Foligno Regin Zibby
Neil Konopka Smith
Greening

Phillips Karlsson
Gonchar Rundblad
Cowen Lee
Kuba

1st PP Unit

Zibby Spezza Alfie
Gonchar Karlsson

2nd PP unit

Filatov Regin Michalek
Cowen Rundblad



Sorry -- Condra makes this team -- so does Greening.

If you get NYR & Philly game.. going be a rough one.. At least it's starting that way.
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+1 #8 Sandy 2011-09-26 18:23
Quoting Tookie19:
Another snoozefest!

Were having so much trouble scoring and when we do its ugly as hell, I think people are gonna get a huge slap in the face when they expect us to score 3 goals a game or watch entertaining hockey. In our 5 pre-season games, maybe 1 was entertaining. A slew of mistakes and bad plays, lack of scoring, shaky defensive play.

Oh well, since were in the rebuild, another 8-12 draft choices wouldnt hurt again, especially if we land Yakupov!!!


Tookie, you do realize a lot of prospects play in those pre-season games. The Sens are 2-2-1 in the pre-season.. I think a better record than the Habs.

I don't expect the playoffs.. but until they make more cuts down to a more set lineup.. we don't know what they will do.
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0 #9 111519 2011-09-26 18:23
Quoting Tookie19:
Another snoozefest!

Were having so much trouble scoring and when we do its ugly as hell, I think people are gonna get a huge slap in the face when they expect us to score 3 goals a game or watch entertaining hockey. In our 5 pre-season games, maybe 1 was entertaining. A slew of mistakes and bad plays, lack of scoring, shaky defensive play.

Oh well, since were in the rebuild, another 8-12 draft choices wouldnt hurt again, especially if we land Yakupov!!!


Yeah, like this game is a good indication of our final line up and what we should expect to see.

You are dismissed.
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+2 #10 111519 2011-09-26 18:28
No room for both Condra and Greening.

Greening is bigger/tougher and more versatile than Condra.

Sorry, Condra is 1st injury call up.
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+1 #11 eli 2011-09-26 18:43
Condra is on a one way contract. Zero chance he goes down to Bingo.
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+1 #12 111519 2011-09-26 18:56
Quoting eli:
Condra is on a one way contract. Zero chance he goes down to Bingo.


He is not a better player than Greening

Hello pressbox.
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0 #13 Mike Bauer 2011-09-26 18:59
Quoting 111519:
Ok so it's now obvious that Cowen, Zibby, and Rundblad be on this team. None of these guys are going to benefit or get better by playing anywhere but the NHL. I also believe Zibby should start on wing not centre.



1. Greening and Condra will be on the team.
2. Both Cowen and Runblad can't be on the big squad.
3. Same goes for MZ and DaCosta
4. Runblad should start in the AHL and then should be the first call up when there is room.

If Im Ottawa, I give MZ a 9 game look and go from there. DaCosta should be playing as well, meaning someone has to go....but I think he starts in the AHL as well. MZ has to be on center I think...

I try to move Kuba, but you need to bring back a forward likely for his contract...and to stay above the floor. Then I would likely waive Winchester and go from there. Bottom line is, there isn't enough room for everyone...Im curious to see how this pans out...
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0 #14 Canucnik 2011-09-26 19:13
David Rundblad will not make the SENs this season and would not proper in "A", he needs to harden up while enjoying his last year in Sweden...he's only 20, everyone is not EriK.
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0 #15 Sens_247 2011-09-26 19:26
There's no way Runblad goes back to Sweden, the organization won't let it happen. Like Senschirp said, the more confidence he gets, the better he gets, and tonight you witnessed that this kid is ready to be a star in this league. If they can’t convince him to go to the AHL for a bit, they’ll find a way to keep him in the NHL.

One player that is rarely mentionned but I feel really stepped it up tonight is Mike Hoffman. He has a lot of skill but I feel lacks confidence. After Maclean gave him more ice time with Alfie and Zib in the third, there was an obvious chemistry that developped between the players, and the real more confident Hoffman came out. He could really help the senators powerplay; and he will someday. His hockey IQ is very high, which is a great asset to his smooth skating and soft hands. If it weren’t for a log jam at the center position, this kid would be play come the season opener. Who knows, if he keeps it up, he just might; ridiculous prediction!
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0 #16 SkipOPot2Mus 2011-09-26 19:36
Cowen and Zibanejad should make the team and Da Costa. we dont need greening or condra why not add da costa instead of them.
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0 #17 SkipOPot2Mus 2011-09-26 19:41
Oh and Rundblad is gonna be one sick player in the future just you wait and see. Ive never seen a kid with so much poise. Look out future Sens are gonna be a scary team.
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+4 #18 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-26 19:44
Bobby Butler shouldnt make the team !!! He hasnt show anything in Pre season ...

- Doesnt play defence
-Doesnt check
-Doesnt score
-Slow
- Lacks effort

Cant have a guy playing top line mins that is a huge Liability!!!!
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0 #19 Canucnik 2011-09-26 20:01
247 there are two sides of the puck, especially for a defence man. Report to Coach Paul's office,"Game Film", tomorrow, 9am.
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0 #20 Mark 2011-09-26 20:08
Quoting Nizzy:
Bobby Butler shouldnt make the team !!! He hasnt show anything in Pre season ...

- Doesnt play defence
-Doesnt check
-Doesnt score
-Slow
- Lacks effort

Cant have a guy playing top line mins that is a huge Liability!!!!


what I don't understand is why did Murray sign Condra, Butler and Greening to one-way contracts?? He really got caught up in the rebuild process - I just don't see a place for all three of them to make this team this year. JMO
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0 #21 simple jack 2011-09-26 20:23
the team1200 pregame show mentioned why murray gave greening, condra and butler 1 way contracts,its was because they would have gone from rfa to ufa, their age gave the players the upper hand and murray had to sign them on a 1 way to keep them otherwise they would walk and get a one way somewhere else. they were mainly talking about greening and condra though.


it should also be said that they can play upto 9 games and still get sent down.from what it sounds like the contracts were to keep them and that they will most likely start the season in bingo.
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+2 #22 Sandy 2011-09-26 20:25
Quoting Canucnik:
David Rundblad will not make the SENs this season and would not proper in "A", he needs to harden up while enjoying his last year in Sweden...he's only 20, everyone is not EriK.


Sorry -- how can he improve in Sweden when he was the best defensemen in the SEL last season.
His problem right now is with the smaller ice and speed and physicality of the NHL game... he will not learn that in Sweden.

It appears some of you did not watch the game last Friday night between Mtl & Ottawa (loss though) == Condra was one of the better players on the ice. I guess you also forgot how well he played down the stretch last season.. oh yeah... I forgot == it meant nothing.

As for Tookie calling the Sens goals ugly.. I guess he did not see Z-bad's goal today.
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0 #23 Sandy 2011-09-26 20:27
Quoting Mark:
Quoting Nizzy:
Bobby Butler shouldnt make the team !!! He hasnt show anything in Pre season ...

- Doesnt play defence
-Doesnt check
-Doesnt score
-Slow
- Lacks effort

Cant have a guy playing top line mins that is a huge Liability!!!!


what I don't understand is why did Murray sign Condra, Butler and Greening to one-way contracts?? He really got caught up in the rebuild process - I just don't see a place for all three of them to make this team this year. JMO



Did you guys not watch them play last year? Have you forgotten already?
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+1 #24 zachpraisethesweedes 2011-09-26 20:28
The sens havbe ridiculous propsects.
Cowen has shown that he can be dominant in this league...finall y. He is a legit contender for rookie of the year.
Rundblad is an unbeleivable talent. The trade to get him might end up being one of the best in franchise history. He was dancing around in the offensive zone tonight on multiple occasions while always creating scoring chances. It looked like his youtube videos all over again. I agree with chirp that he just needs confidence. Once he makes one nice play in a game he realizes he can do it and then goes off. His spin o rama's that he does reminds me so much of Doughty. I honestly believe he will dominate the game some day just like Doughty does now.
Zibanejad is also an unreal talent. His speed and acceletion can match up with the best in the world. He simply has to get used to the smaller ice. He's not used to having someone's stick on him that fast. Once he does he'll be a dominant power forward.
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0 #25 conservativeHippie 2011-09-26 20:34
As for defense, why is it that everyone says it is rundblad OR cowen?

Phillips
Gonchar
karlesson
Lee
Rundblad
Cowen
Kuba

Sorry Carks ...still guaranteed money. Even though you have great dedication, your trade value is higher than Kuba's. Either that, or sit in bingo until kuba gets traded.
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0 #26 zachpraisethesweedes 2011-09-26 20:44
DaCosta impresses me every time he touches the puck. His vision, poise with the puck, soft hands, and even his shot are all extremely good for a rookie. Not surprised at all that almost ever nhl team wanted him. The sens hit the lottery with that move. I think just because of the situation with 1way contracts on our team he will probably start in Bingo but he will definetly get games at some point this year just like Butler did. I really think that top line mintes in Bingo playing with guys like Petersson will be awesome for his game/confidence .
Lehner looks like a real solid goalie for the future. Big, athletic, and competetive is what stands out with him. He is definetly good enough to play back up this year but it is good for him to play 50plus games on a real good Bingo team. It just sucks for him because he essentially has no shot at making the team. To be honest I hope Anderson gets injured for the year and Lehner plays so well the team would be forced to play him
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0 #27 zachpraisethesweedes 2011-09-26 21:06
Our defense will look like so...
Phillips Gonchar
Lee Karlsson
Cowen Carkner
Kuba will be waived and if not claimed will be an extra scratched D man in case of injuries. He simply is not a good enough skater anymore after his surgery. I wish we could trade him for a pick but that doesn't seem to be likely.
Rundblad will start the season playing in Bingo but I believe will be in the nhl before the 20game mark

As for the 2nd line centre position...
The way the roster is now I think it will be Regins job to loose. And I don't think he has yet. He's looked like a solid pro out there. However...Ziban ejad will get his 9 games to start and if he can show that he is improving on a regular basis until then he might force Murray to make a trade. Because I don't see Regin playing 3rd line. I think that's Winchester's job. Next year I'd like to see DaCosta rip it up and play 2nd line centre and have Zibanejad be our elite 3rd line centre like Staal in Pit.
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0 #28 fireball8992 2011-09-26 21:09
Quoting Mark:
Quoting Nizzy:
Bobby Butler shouldnt make the team !!! He hasnt show anything in Pre season ...

- Doesnt play defence
-Doesnt check
-Doesnt score
-Slow
- Lacks effort

Cant have a guy playing top line mins that is a huge Liability!!!!


what I don't understand is why did Murray sign Condra, Butler and Greening to one-way contracts?? He really got caught up in the rebuild process - I just don't see a place for all three of them to make this team this year. JMO


One-way does not mean they have to pass through waivers. Mark Parrish is on a two-way, but will still have to pass through waivers to go to the AHL. One-way simply means they're paid the same in the AHL as they are the NHL. So, all 3 of those guys are waiver-exempt (it has to do with NHL games player/number of years in NHL, not one-way/two-way contract).
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0 #29 zachpraisethesweedes 2011-09-26 21:16
Question for Chirp...

I've been keeping an eye on Kyle Turris all off season and he still hasn't signed with Pheonix. Do you know why not? Nobody seems to be talking about it. Personally I think its a pretty big story.
I was thinking of him being good for our second line cntre spot. I look at him kind of like Filatov...extre mely highly touted skilled propects that just didn't work out with their old teams and all they need is a fresh start with solid top 6 players/veteran s which we have.
Any chance of trading for him?
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0 #30 simple jack 2011-09-26 21:41
finally, the rundblad karlsson combo looked promoising, they are both fast skaters with skill. rundblad likes to hit and the both have great vision with a shot that can score big goals. this/could be the making of an elite pairing of this league.

hope to see more of it.

also zibanejad should be on the wing until he works with spezza on faceoffs. he's winning 1 in 10 and seems to be his only downside. he'll get much better just practicing and being in ottawa. we can surprise alot of teams this year.
go sens go!
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0 #31 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-26 21:51
@Simple JAck

I agree Zibanejad would be great on the wing he reminds me of JVR ..
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0 #32 Canucnik 2011-09-26 21:56
Boys, I love the Rundblad for a Second round pick. We got lucky with EriK going to Bingo and coming back up. Rundblad is not Erik...his defensive ability (reaction and timing) right now is big ice, European, thus his confidence is lagging. IMO, right now the helter skelter (guys out of position/guys in position) of the forcheck in the "A" will push him over the edge. Push comes to shove ya keep up with EriK/Alfie et al on the big team as a spare but then you gotta seroiusly move some people. The guy is 20 years old it's a time (Mature) and muscle (10 pounds) deal!
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0 #33 NikoTn 2011-09-26 22:01
A lot may disagree, but one player that I think has disappointed so far is Butler.

He makes bad decisions and is invisible if he isn't surrounded by great players. I would vouch for Zibby instead of Butler. Zibby has better stats, better defensive play and as it seems, more determination and hustle.

Hopefully things change in the regular season as Butler will for sure start on the first line with Spezza.
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0 #34 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-26 22:14
I like too see are top 6 Spezza Alfie Fliatov Zibanejad Michalek Folingo ...

Filatov Speeza Alfredsson
Folingo Zibanejad Michalek

Line 2 - these 3 were on the ice together during the boston game and when they won in overtime they looked great together
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0 #35 lbernier 2011-09-26 22:25
Quoting NickG:
I look forward to the rematch here in Winnipeg in November. I'll be in the stands.

That 3rd period was intense. Nice to see some emotion after the vanilla first 2 periods.


I will be there also brother!!!!!! :P
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0 #36 lbernier 2011-09-26 22:31
I hope Maclean sends down everybody except 23-24 players in the cut later tonight or tomorrow morning just so we can play with our NHL lines now. Guys that stay should be:

Filatov
Spezza
Butler
Greening
Condra
Foligno
Neil
Zebanjad
Regin
Alfredsson
Smith
Kenopka
Winchester (Injured)
Michalek

Karlsson
Gonchar
Kuba
Rundblad
Cowen
Lee
Phillips
Carkner

Auld
Anderson
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+1 #37 TyrantRoarrrrr 2011-09-26 23:22
Kyle Turris has been in the news for the past two months over his contract disputes. The rumour circulating around various media sources is that he wants more money. It's not unusual for RFA contract negotiations to get prolonged into training camp. Look at none other than Drew Doughty for evidence of that. They'll either work it out or they'll trade him - with his draft pedigree there will be plenty of teams chipping in a somewhat reasonable offer for a kid who might eventually catch up to his draft class.

Oh and ditto everyone's comments about Butler. He's been the worst Senator in the pre-season other than Wiercoch who has been a train wreck out there. Hopefully he's just waiting for the real games to start because he feels more secure about having an NHL job. He's been flat out lousy in all of the games so far. Defensively porous and not scoring. Eastwood warned of this last year. He scored a lot during garbage time but he has to score or he's a liability out there.
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0 #38 Bruinblaster 2011-09-27 00:03
Quoting Canucnik:
Boys, I love the Rundblad for a Second round pick. We got lucky with EriK going to Bingo and coming back up. Rundblad is not Erik...his defensive ability (reaction and timing) right now is big ice, European, thus his confidence is lagging. IMO, right now the helter skelter (guys out of position/guys in position) of the forcheck in the "A" will push him over the edge. Push comes to shove ya keep up with EriK/Alfie et al on the big team as a spare but then you gotta seroiusly move some people. The guy is 20 years old it's a time (Mature) and musle (10 pounds) deal!

Really neither one can play in their own zone so it really is a comparison of offensive skills
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0 #39 Mike Bauer 2011-09-27 00:14
A few things...

a/ Runblad going back to Sweden is the worst scenario for the Sens
b/ They can't waive Kuba, they need his cap hit to stay above the floor (lucky him LOL)
c/ Its Pre-season; relax. All you coming down on Butler, Greening etc need to relax. Talk like this after 25 games...
d/ Winchester won't be a third line centre.
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0 #40 Tcharger 2011-09-27 05:27
Quoting Mike Bauer:
A few things...

a/ Runblad going back to Sweden is the worst scenario for the Sens
b/ They can't waive Kuba, they need his cap hit to stay above the floor (lucky him LOL)
c/ Its Pre-season; relax. All you coming down on Butler, Greening etc need to relax. Talk like this after 25 games...
d/ Winchester won't be a third line centre.



haha how many times did we hear "talk like this after 25/30/35/42 games" last year....there were a few last season who didn't have to wait until we were at the mid point to realise how bad we were.
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0 #41 moneymike 2011-09-27 07:11
Quoting Tcharger:
Quoting Mike Bauer:
A few things...

a/ Runblad going back to Sweden is the worst scenario for the Sens
b/ They can't waive Kuba, they need his cap hit to stay above the floor (lucky him LOL)
c/ Its Pre-season; relax. All you coming down on Butler, Greening etc need to relax. Talk like this after 25 games...
d/ Winchester won't be a third line centre.



haha how many times did we hear "talk like this after 25/30/35/42 games" last year....there were a few last season who didn't have to wait until we were at the mid point to realise how bad we were.


You truly are the king of kings.
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0 #42 Darcy Loewen 2011-09-27 07:13
Hey Guys,

Sens fan stuck north of TO, there have 2 seperate reports around here about a Spezza for Bozak and Gunnersson trade, if that happens i'd be really angry! Anyone here anything about this? another BS E5 rumour or what? I'm still surprised so many people are picking Ottawa to finsh last in East, with good goaltending can we really be that bad?
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0 #43 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-27 07:34
Quoting Darcy Loewen:
Hey Guys,

Sens fan stuck north of TO, there have 2 seperate reports around here about a Spezza for Bozak and Gunnersson trade, if that happens i'd be really angry! Anyone here anything about this? another BS E5 rumour or what? I'm still surprised so many people are picking Ottawa to finsh last in East, with good goaltending can we really be that bad?


For some trash talking, the Toronto Media love to talk about Spezza trade, and getting under the skin of Ottawa fans !

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!

Rockin Robert
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-1 #44 Sens_247 2011-09-27 07:48
Just read an article in the Ottawa Citizen written by Allen Panzeri. I was wondering if this guy actually watched the game, or just decided to write about it based on Sportcentre highlights this morning.

"Mika Zibanejad continued his impressive NHL debut... He was the best Ottawa player on the ice". This is completely inaccurate, although he played better in the third, and scored a very nice goal, he was in no way, shape, or form, the best Senator on the ice. He looked sluggish most of the game.Then he goes on to state: “Jared Cowen and David Rundblad went head-to-head again on Monday night... and Cowen again came away the winner". Once again, this is false, and in the third Runblad made a great case as to why the organization should keep him; he looked much better than Cowen.

Anyway, this is not a knock against the kids, just against Allen Panzeri; who should actually watch a hockey game before writing about it!
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+1 #45 Johne 2011-09-27 08:06
A few predictions

Cowen makes the team
Rundblad starts the season in the AHL
Regin is our 2nd line center
Da Costa is our 3rd line center forming a line of college kids
Zibinejad goes back to Sweden for another season (love what I've seen, but he needs consistency).
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+2 #46 Captain Alfie 2011-09-27 08:10
Cowen is a lock for this season. He brings the physical game that the rest of our D lacks. Rundblad would make this team if Cowen was not so dominate right now but I think a season in the A would do wonders for Rundblads confidence and get him used to the smaller ice. I am glad Zbad can bring it too, will be interesting to see what they do with him.
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+1 #47 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-27 08:22
"Sens fan stuck north of TO, there have 2 seperate reports around here about a Spezza for Bozak and Gunnersson trade."

LOL! That would never happen....Bozak is freaking useless and Gunnersson straight up for Spezza would be the worst trade the Sens ever made. Spezza is going to be the next captain of this team, don't expect him to go anywhere...

Spezza for Bozak & Gunnersson....h ahaha....Only in Toronto could they make up something more ridiculous than an Eklund rumor...
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0 #48 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-27 08:23
Wow, right back at it with a tilt vs the Loafs tonight. Exciting to have so much hockey! Too bad, just like the regular season sked, we'll be playing these bastards on the back end of back-to-back games.
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0 #49 RUSHRLZ 2011-09-27 08:26
Quoting PraiseAlfie84:
"Sens fan stuck north of TO, there have 2 seperate reports around here about a Spezza for Bozak and Gunnersson trade."

LOL! That would never happen....Bozak is freaking useless and Gunnersson straight up for Spezza would be the worst trade the Sens ever made. Spezza is going to be the next captain of this team, don't expect him to go anywhere...

Spezza for Bozak & Gunnersson....hahaha....Only in Toronto could they make up something more ridiculous than an Eklund rumor...


Holy shit that is terrible! The only highly appealing players they have are Kessel and Schenn. Kessel they would never be moved at this point and Schenn.. well, we sure as hell don't need more defencemen. Further more I wouldn't even trade straight up for either one of those players, maybe both if it wasn't a trade with the Leafs.
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0 #50 Spensar 2011-09-27 08:38
Quoting Sandy:
Tookie, you do realize a lot of prospects play in those pre-season games. The Sens are 2-2-1 in the pre-season.. I think a better record than the Habs.

I don't expect the playoffs.. but until they make more cuts down to a more set lineup.. we don't know what they will do.


Exactly. Maybe the Sens will be challenged to score goals, but these line-ups do not tell the tale, and should not. This is the time evaluate and experiment, not coach to win. Maclean is also getting to know new players in the organization in depth. I would be p'o'ed if he ran a line-up to win at all costs now. I watch pre-season games to see how the players are making out - ability of new players, progression of older prospects, rehab of players like Alfie coming off a surgery.

Way to early to make Ottawa Citizen proclamations on scoring punch after the first pre-season game, like they did.
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+3 #51 Johne 2011-09-27 09:04
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Daniel Alfredsson is on the ice but isn't expected to play. No Craig Anderson or Alex Auld.
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0 #52 Spezza_Fan 2011-09-27 09:07
Alfie - There hasn't been much talk about him but in my opinion he's in great form to start the year off. Let's hope he can stay healthy.

Cowen - Was a monster out there. I really like what I see of him jumping up on the play. Sending him back last year really helped his offensive game. The only thing I can say he could work on is his pivots; he looks like some players can get around him when his back is to the play.

Runblad - Had a great third period; just like most of the team. This guy is going to be really good for us but is he ready? Not just yet. I do hope he sticks in the AHL because it can only help him.
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+3 #53 Johne 2011-09-27 09:28
http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger - Leafs believe they have 9 defenseman NHL ready. A vet or 2 will be sitting on opening night. Teams are calling, but no offers. Too early.

Ya, there is no way we can move Kuba.

Cowen makes the team, without question. There is no room for Rundblad unless Carkner is put on waivers. Rundblad should be in Bingo until there is a need for a callup.
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0 #54 conservativeHippie 2011-09-27 09:49
I think I'm calling BS on kipper's trade rumour between the sens and the kings. He is saying doughty for k65, foligno, Zack Smith and a 1st.
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0 #55 Sandy 2011-09-27 09:52
Quoting Darcy Loewen:
Hey Guys,

Sens fan stuck north of TO, there have 2 seperate reports around here about a Spezza for Bozak and Gunnersson trade, if that happens i'd be really angry! Anyone here anything about this? another BS E5 rumour or what? I'm still surprised so many people are picking Ottawa to finsh last in East, with good goaltending can we really be that bad?


I really don't know what is in the air in Toronto if they would ever think that would be even close to Spezza's value.
#1 -- Spezza is going nowhere
#2 -- If he was traded... we could guarantee it would not be to a hated division rival.
#3 -- the only way he gets to Toronto is if he signs as a UFA.
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+3 #56 Johne 2011-09-27 09:52
@Hippie

its always bs. stop looking at fake twitter accounts.
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0 #57 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-27 09:56
HAHA! Man that's ridiculous, mostly because Murray had already come out and said Karlsson is untouchable. Why would we sign an $8M D-man with the amount of great prospects we can sign for way less...Plus that's a huge asking price, we can't give up any first rounders for anything right now, we are not gonna make the playoffs (very good chance we end up bottom 5). This team will have to have a Cinderella season to make it to the post-season. We will have a another high 1st rounder in 2012, the year after probably not so we can't give it away for anything!
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0 #58 conservativeHippie 2011-09-27 09:59
Who would misuse a "_" in such a fashion? I thought everyone on the Interweb was a fine upstanding citizen :)

And yes...It is a fake account. Thanks for the heads-up!
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+4 #59 miguel 2011-09-27 10:01
Quoting Tookie19:
Another snoozefest!

Were having so much trouble scoring and when we do its ugly as hell, I think people are gonna get a huge slap in the face when they expect us to score 3 goals a game or watch entertaining hockey. In our 5 pre-season games, maybe 1 was entertaining. A slew of mistakes and bad plays, lack of scoring, shaky defensive play.

Oh well, since were in the rebuild, another 8-12 draft choices wouldnt hurt again, especially if we land Yakupov!!!

Regulars here know how much I disagree with Tookie... but (trust me this hurts) much of what he says here is true. We really struggle to gain, or maintain offensive pressure. Outside from our number one line, there really is not any one offensive standout.
So far:
Spezza, Michalek, Alfie, are the only ones that have clearly stood out as offensive threats.
But forget Yakupov, we will still challenge for a playoff spot.
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+1 #60 conservativeHippie 2011-09-27 10:02
Ya...

I really don't care if we land in the bottom 5, or even the bottom of the heap. I said a few years back that I would rather watch my kids hockey over a heartless display by professionals. I am glad to say that won't be the case this year! Yes...I do still enjoy watching my son play...
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-4 #61 Tookie 2011-09-27 10:08
Quoting 111519:
Yeah, like this game is a good indication of our final line up and what we should expect to see.

You are dismissed.


Actually it is, most teams season rosters dont resemble their pre-season roster one bit, ours does, players like Greening, Condra, Zibanejad*, Smith, Neil, Konopka, Filatov are all going to play for us in Reg season...

So yeah it does look bad and I stand by my assessment that we wont be scoring anywhere close to 3 goals per game.
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+4 #62 miguel 2011-09-27 10:11
Also,
Cowen is way further ahead than Rundblad. Rundblad seems to be at the level Karlsson was in his first year, he needs to learn the NA ice size, and not play so scared.
Cowen has been the most impressive player overall in my opinion. Very physical, strong, and composed with the puck.
And as much as I love Karlsson's offensvie capabilities, he is still extremely week in our own end, and it seems that Rundblad is following in that same direction. We must break those bad habits now.
As for the forwards, Da Costa, has been very impressive, he will make the team.
Condra is extremely smart and dependable, and yes a lot like Kelly.
Butler has been disappointing, it seems that he used his speed much better last year.
MZ will be good, but one more year in SEL will help mature him.
And although I do remember Greening from last year, he has not shown any of that yet, whereas Smith has moved ahead of him on my depth chart. JMO
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+4 #63 miguel 2011-09-27 10:14
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Ya...

I really don't care if we land in the bottom 5, or even the bottom of the heap. I said a few years back that I would rather watch my kids hockey over a heartless display by professionals. I am glad to say that won't be the case this year! Yes...I do still enjoy watching my son play...

Well put, at least we know these kids will give their all, every game, which is a lot better than most nights last year
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+4 #64 Johne 2011-09-27 10:19
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Robin Lehner will play whole game.
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Craig Anderson has some maintanence issues which is why he isn't playing.
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Anderson will play Thursday if he's OK.
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-4 #65 Tookie 2011-09-27 10:22
Im not saying were not headed in the right direction, we are, but it wont be exciting hockey. Expect alot of board play, sloppy neutral zone play, many mistakes and missed opportunities.

Maybe the occasional nice goal or blowout victory but there wont be much of it. Just trying to lower peoples expectations. Some people are going to be very dissapointed, just saying.
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-4 #66 Tookie 2011-09-27 10:24
Quoting Johne:
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Robin Lehner will play whole game.
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Craig Anderson has some maintanence issues which is why he isn't playing.
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Anderson will play Thursday if he's OK.


Nice to see Lehner get the whole game, expect the Leafs to win but Lehner will give us a chance!
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-4 #67 Sensnation 2011-09-27 10:35
Quoting Tookie19:
Another snoozefest!

Were having so much trouble scoring and when we do its ugly as hell, I think people are gonna get a huge slap in the face when they expect us to score 3 goals a game or watch entertaining hockey. In our 5 pre-season games, maybe 1 was entertaining. A slew of mistakes and bad plays, lack of scoring, shaky defensive play.

Oh well, since were in the rebuild, another 8-12 draft choices wouldnt hurt again, especially if we land Yakupov!!!


You do realize this is pre-season and we have not dressed our actual lineup yet right. We'll be fine, it's too bad you feel like every negative occurrence in meaningless games is a prediction of things to come. Or even worse that you need to lower our expectations because of it. Cheer up already and find some sunshine in your sporting life.
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-7 #68 Sensnation 2011-09-27 10:41
Would trying this out for the first 9 games really be so bad:

Zibanejad-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-Da Cosata-Alfie
Regin-Foligno-Condra
Filatov-Smith-Neil
Greening/Konopka

Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Lee
Rundblad-Gonchar
Carkner

Roll 4 lines and Filatov gets first promotion when someone else hits inconsistency or injury.
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+7 #69 Johne 2011-09-27 10:45
@JABS

why in the world would you put Filatov on the 4th line, seems like such a waste. Filatov will play top 6 minutes or not play at all.

I also think Zibby isn't ready for the 2nd line center spot, but don't give up on it so easily.
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+2 #70 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-27 10:45
Why would you put Filitov on a grinder line? He's a top end offensive player, he needs to be set up with the puck and I can't see Smith being able to make those plays as well as Spezza or even DaCosta....
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-4 #71 Tookie 2011-09-27 10:46
Quoting JABSmilez:
You do realize this is pre-season and we have not dressed our actual lineup yet right. We'll be fine, it's too bad you feel like every negative occurrence in meaningless games is a prediction of things to come. Or even worse that you need to lower our expectations because of it. Cheer up already and find some sunshine in your sporting life.


Jabs your saying we havent dressed our actual lineup??

Dont know about you but all of the above will make the team and have dressed together in pre-season...

Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Filatov, Foligno, Regin, Butler, Greening, Condra, Smith, Neil, Konopka, Da Costa.

And of all the names the last few are the ones that actually showed up.

So I dont know where you get you "we havent dressed our actual lineup yet"

Its gonna be a mixture of the players I just mentioned, which have problems scoring goals.
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+4 #72 miguel 2011-09-27 10:46
Quoting JABSmilez:
Would trying this out for the first 9 games really be so bad:

Zibanejad-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-Da Cosata-Alfie
Regin-Foligno-Condra
Filatov-Smith-Neil
Greening/Konopka

Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Lee
Rundblad-Gonchar
Carkner

Roll 4 lines and Filatov gets first promotion when someone else hits inconsistency or injury.


I like your line of thinking, but Wow Filatov on the 4th line... you know that will bring on the whining, right?
Also, I love that you have Kuba down to Elmira:) but do you really think that Rundblad has earned his spot, ahead of say Gyrba, who has impressed?
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+1 #73 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-27 10:48
Gryba hasn't impressed all that much....If it came down to Rundblad and Gryba this year, I would pick Rundblad hands down, even if it's only to get him a full year of NHL experience under his belt, that would serve a better purpose than picking Gryba....
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-5 #74 Sensnation 2011-09-27 10:49
Quoting Johne:
@JABS

why in the world would you put Filatov on the 4th line, seems like such a waste. Filatov will play top 6 minutes or not play at all.

I also think Zibby isn't ready for the 2nd line center spot, but don't give up on it so easily.


Tell me where you'd put him then? I put him there because he can make things happen for any type of line and because you'd have to put someone else down there if not him. It's not permanent, but gives you more time with Da Costa and Zibanejad.
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-5 #75 Sensnation 2011-09-27 10:51
Quoting Tookie19:

Jabs your saying we havent dressed our actual lineup??

Dont know about you but all of the above will make the team and have dressed together in pre-season...

Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Filatov, Foligno, Regin, Butler, Greening, Condra, Smith, Neil, Konopka, Da Costa.

And of all the names the last few are the ones that actually showed up.

So I dont know where you get you "we havent dressed our actual lineup yet"

Its gonna be a mixture of the players I just mentioned, which have problems scoring goals.


I must have missed which game they all played together. Please let me know which game that was. They haven't!

Spezza, Filatov, Alfie, Butler, Da Costa, Zibanejad and Michalek who are all scorers and/or playmakers will have trouble scoring goals? I'm sure some games it will happen but not for a full season.
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-4 #76 Sensnation 2011-09-27 10:55
Quoting miguel:

I like your line of thinking, but Wow Filatov on the 4th line... you know that will bring on the whining, right?
Also, I love that you have Kuba down to Elmira:) but do you really think that Rundblad has earned his spot, ahead of say Gyrba, who has impressed?


Filatov on the 4th will bring tons of whining, I know. And it's not based on his performance, just on the fact that no other top 6 player could make lemonade from that line, whereas I think he could. He played well the other night with grinders for a bit. I thing putting one of the other top 6 would bring more whining though, but the whiners don't think about who they'd prefer there instead or the fact I'm insistent on rolling 4 lines, which makes a huge difference. It's also not permanent, just gives the coach an extra 9 games to judge Zibanejad, Da Costa and Regin better.
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-4 #77 Sensnation 2011-09-27 10:57
Quoting PraiseAlfie84:
Why would you put Filitov on a grinder line? He's a top end offensive player, he needs to be set up with the puck and I can't see Smith being able to make those plays as well as Spezza or even DaCosta....


Filatov is a playmaker, not a sniper. Instead of complaining about what I put up, tell me your alternative. How would you fit Zibanejad and Da Costa on the team?
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-5 #78 Tookie 2011-09-27 10:59
@ Jabs

Hehe, I dont like Filatov but even I wouldnt start him on the 4th line, hell, thats like failing him right away...

And that line up scares me, it would be decent if all the kids had 3-4 years of NHL play on their belt, but they dont.

Zibby is not 1st line material just yet, you can see he's not all that comfortable when he has the puck, always shooting on net from the blue line instead of carrying it in or dumping & chasing.

Da Costa is not strong enough to play the type of puck possession that he likes vs regular NHL'ers. He's gonna get eaten up.
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-4 #79 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:02
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Jabs

Hehe, I dont like Filatov but even I wouldnt start him on the 4th line, hell, thats like failing him right away...

And that line up scares me, it would be decent if all the kids had 3-4 years of NHL play on their belt, but they dont.

Zibby is not 1st line material just yet, you can see he's not all that comfortable when he has the puck, always shooting on net from the blue line instead of carrying it in or dumping & chasing.

Da Costa is not strong enough to play the type of puck possession that he likes vs regular NHL'ers. He's gonna get eaten up.


We have very different reviews of Da Costa then. And as I said, it's for 9 games not the whole season. Filatov will get a chance with every scorer at some point this year, no need to freak out off the bat.

For someone that says this is a rebuild year with no playoffs, why wouldn't you want these kids learning the NHL way then right away?
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+3 #80 Johne 2011-09-27 11:03
I know every lineup had Filatov-Spezza- Butler but I'm wondering if Filatov might find some chemistry with Michalek. Just a thought.
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-4 #81 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:05
You guys seem very closed minded today. We have 9 players vying for 6 top 6 spots. At least 1-2 of them are going to play on a lesser line. Show me 1 lineup where that is not the case and no one would whine that someone is too low.
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-4 #82 Tookie 2011-09-27 11:05
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting PraiseAlfie84:
Why would you put Filitov on a grinder line? He's a top end offensive player, he needs to be set up with the puck and I can't see Smith being able to make those plays as well as Spezza or even DaCosta....


Filatov is a playmaker, not a sniper. Instead of complaining about what I put up, tell me your alternative. How would you fit Zibanejad and Da Costa on the team?


I wouldnt, they are not rdy.

Filatov Spezza Butler
Michalek Regin/Foligno Alfie
Greening Smith Condra
Regin/Foligno Konopka Neil

Your defensive line up I have no problems with, bit soft but its all we got.

Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Lee
Rundblad-Gonchar
Carkner
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0 #83 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-27 11:06
@JABS

Well if we picked up Filitov as a playmaker then who exactly is he supposed to be feeding on the 4th line? Neil? I'm pretty sure we picked him up to put up a few goals for us. In order for this kid to produce and play well he's going to have to be given something he wasn't given in Columbus, which is a chance to play top 6 minutes.

Zibanejad will play 9 games and go back to SEL, the only way I could see him staying is if he's at or very close to a PPG which is unlikely. DaCosta will be sent down to Bingo. I think they are most likely going to give Regin a chance as the 2nd line center, and Smith will fill in as 3rd line center, Konopka 4th. DaCosta will get the call up when one of them gets injured (or Spezza).

That's how I think it will play out up the middle...
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0 #84 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 11:07
FORWARDS
My lineup.....And if Butler doesnt start playing switch him with Condra

Nikita Filatov -Jason Spezza-Daniel Alfredsson
Nick Folingo -Mika Zibanejad -Milan Michalek
Colin Greening -Peter Regin-Bobby Butler
Zack Smith-Zenon Konopka -Chris Neil


DEFENSEMEN
Sergei Gonchar -Jared Cowen
Erik Karlsson -Filip Kuba
Chris Phillips- David Rundblad
Brian Lee

GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson
Alex Auld
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-4 #85 Tookie 2011-09-27 11:09
@ Jabs

Oooohhh I didnt see you had them playing for only 9 games, if so, then yes I agree, neither Zib or Da Costa will play more than 9 games this year, no matter how well they do. Zibanejad is headed back to Sweden and Da Costa in the AHL.
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-4 #86 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:11
Quoting Tookie19:

Filatov is a playmaker, not a sniper. Instead of complaining about what I put up, tell me your alternative. How would you fit Zibanejad and Da Costa on the team?


I wouldnt, they are not rdy.

Filatov Spezza Butler
Michalek Regin/Foligno Alfie
Greening Smith Condra
Regin/Foligno Konopka Neil

Your defensive line up I ahve no problem with, bit soft but its all we got.

Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Lee
Rundblad-Gonchar
Carkner

Why would Regin/Foligno on the 4th line be fine? And a 1st line with Spezza as the grinder? This Filatov-Spezza- Butler line is not realistic at all, just too small.
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+3 #87 Johne 2011-09-27 11:11
@Tookie

Regin or Foligno for 2nd line C?
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+1 #88 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 11:12
Here are the guys that made it through the cuts today ...

F: Michalek, Alfredsson, Regin, Greening, Smith, Butler, Spezza, Filatov, Condra, Daugavins, Da Costa, Neil, Konopka, Hoffman, Foligno, Zibanejad (Winchester)

Goalies: Auld, Anderson...D: Phillips, Karlsson, Gonchar, Kuba, Carkner, Lee, Cowen, Runblad, Wiercioch, Borowiecki
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-4 #89 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:13
Quoting PraiseAlfie84:
@JABS

Well if we picked up Filitov as a playmaker then who exactly is he supposed to be feeding on the 4th line? Neil? I'm pretty sure we picked him up to put up a few goals for us. In order for this kid to produce and play well he's going to have to be given something he wasn't given in Columbus, which is a chance to play top 6 minutes.

Zibanejad will play 9 games and go back to SEL, the only way I could see him staying is if he's at or very close to a PPG which is unlikely. DaCosta will be sent down to Bingo. I think they are most likely going to give Regin a chance as the 2nd line center, and Smith will fill in as 3rd line center, Konopka 4th. DaCosta will get the call up when one of them gets injured (or Spezza).

That's how I think it will play out up the middle...


So while Zibanejad is here and Regin plays 2nd line C where is Filatov and where is Zibanejad playing? As I said, that was a 9 game lineup.
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-5 #90 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:18
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Jabs

Oooohhh I didnt see you had them playing for only 9 games, if so, then yes I agree, neither Zib or Da Costa will play more than 9 games this year, no matter how well they do. Zibanejad is headed back to Sweden and Da Costa in the AHL.


Exactly, it's a tryout lineup, not a full year thing. Whoever is best between the 2 stays, the other returns to Bingo or SEL and then Filatov is back where he should be.

If we're going based on the business side though, there's really no room for anyone other than Cowen and as you said 1 of Foligno/Regin gets 2nd line C.

I don't know why it's so hard to discuss situational lineups here without people jumping all over it. Not 1 suggested lineup is liked by all and in the end there will be fans surprised with a top 6 player who ends up on 3rd or 4th line. With the numbers we have, it's going to happen.
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-4 #91 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:21
Quoting Nizzy:
FORWARDS
My lineup.....And if Butler doesnt start playing switch him with Condra

Nikita Filatov -Jason Spezza-Daniel Alfredsson
Nick Folingo -Mika Zibanejad -Milan Michalek
Colin Greening -Peter Regin-Bobby Butler
Zack Smith-Zenon Konopka -Chris Neil


DEFENSEMEN
Sergei Gonchar -Jared Cowen
Erik Karlsson -Filip Kuba
Chris Phillips- David Rundblad
Brian Lee

GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson
Alex Auld


Michalek plays LW not RW and Rundblad and Phillips play the same side.
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+2 #92 Johne 2011-09-27 11:24
While I like Foligno, I'm not seeing a whole lot of room for him in our top 6 and he is already a borderline 2nd/3rd line player. I think he would land us a 2nd round pick at the least.

Filatov-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-Regin-Alfredsson
Greening-Da Costa-Condra
Smith-Konopka-Neil

Plug Foligno in for injuries or players that aren't producing until he is traded.
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-4 #93 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:25
Quoting Johne:
A few predictions

Cowen makes the team
Rundblad starts the season in the AHL
Regin is our 2nd line center
Da Costa is our 3rd line center forming a line of college kids
Zibinejad goes back to Sweden for another season (love what I've seen, but he needs consistency).


Regin is so far behind Foligno got ahead of him as a C. I highly doubt Da Costa will be kept in the NHL to play on the 3rd line.
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+1 #94 Adam Smith 2011-09-27 11:26
Filatov is a playmaker, not a sniper. Instead of complaining about what I put up, tell me your alternative. How would you fit Zibanejad and Da Costa on the team?

I wouldnt, they are not rdy.

Filatov Spezza Butler
Michalek Regin/Foligno Alfie
Greening Smith Condra
Regin/Foligno Konopka Neil

Your defensive line up I have no problems with, bit soft but its all we got.

Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Lee
Rundblad-Gonchar
Carkner

This is the lineup I predict we'll see. Or at least I'm hoping for. May not score a ton of goals, but I think it's the way this team should look going forward.

I'm not a fan of Mac switching up lines often like he says he will. Let them build chemistry
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+1 #95 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 11:29
Ottawa Senators Lineup tonight vs Leafs

Greening-Spezza-Filatov
Foligno-Regin-Condra
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Butler
Daugavins-Smith-Neil.

Gonchar-Borowiecki
Cowen-Karlsson
Rundblad-Lee

Lehner

Kulimen - Grabovski - Macarthur
Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
Frattin - Boyce - Armstrong
Rosehill - Dupuis - Crabb/Orr

Liles-Schenn
Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Aulie-Franson


Goalie: Reimer.
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-3 #96 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:29
Quoting Johne:
While I like Foligno, I'm not seeing a whole lot of room for him in our top 6 and he is already a borderline 2nd/3rd line player. I think he would land us a 2nd round pick at the least.

Filatov-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-Regin-Alfredsson
Greening-Da Costa-Condra
Smith-Konopka-Neil

Plug Foligno in for injuries or players that aren't producing until he is traded.


You'd move a 1st round player who's still growing and has had some of the best shifts out of anyone this preseason for a 2nd round pick? I don't know what your Regin attachment is, but I cannot agree at all with this.
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-4 #97 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:33
Quoting Nizzy:
Ottawa Senators Lineup tonight vs Leafs

Greening-Spezza-Filatov
Foligno-Regin-Condra
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Butler
Daugavins-Smith-Neil.

Gonchar-Borowiecki
Cowen-Karlsson
Rundblad-Lee

Lehner

Kulimen - Grabovski - Macarthur
Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
Frattin - Boyce - Armstrong
Rosehill - Dupuis - Crabb/Orr

Liles-Schenn
Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Aulie-Franson


Goalie: Reimer.


I like the D pairings, should be interesting, as well as the 1st line with Spezza.
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+1 #98 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 11:37
@ Jabs

"Michalek plays LW not RW... and Rundblad and Phillips play the same side."

-Actually Michalek is a RW playing LW..

-Phillips and Runblad played together in the pre season with Rundblad on the right and Philly on the left
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-2 #99 Sensnation 2011-09-27 11:58
Quoting Nizzy:
@ Jabs

"Michalek plays LW not RW... and Rundblad and Phillips play the same side."

-Actually Michalek is a RW playing LW..

-Phillips and Runblad played together in the pre season with Rundblad on the right and Philly on the left


If he's playing LW for more than 1 year does that not become his position? I'm not saying he can't play both sides, but out of what I've seen he looks a lot better on the left.

As for Rundblad, I'm sure they've tried it, just like they tried Karlsson-Goncha r last year. It's a lot harder to convert a rookie's position while also teaching him everything else for the NHL, imo.
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+2 #100 Johne 2011-09-27 12:07
I think the good news here is that we have an excess of top 6 talent that MacLean is going to have to figure out how to make it work. Its a good problem to have.

Alfredsson, Spezza, Michalek, Filatov, Butler, Regin, Foligno, Zibanejad
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+4 #101 Johne 2011-09-27 12:09
On waivers today

Tim Conboy (OTT)
Francis Lessard (OTT)
Corey Locke (OTT)
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0 #102 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 12:13
@jabs

NO I'm pretty sure it doesnt matter if its been a year if he is a RW that also can play LW Id rather see him play his nature position ..He has asked too go back to RW but its a wait and see .. thats why id like to see Folingo Zibby MM9 -Line

Well they played together last night and didnt look bad at all Philly is a stay at home Rundblad is risk taker there perfect for each other .
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+3 #103 Johne 2011-09-27 12:18
Thank God Lessard is gone.

I liked having Locke in the system, but I guess they're trying to make room for future NHL players, not career AHLers.
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0 #104 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-27 12:19
Interesting that Zach Hamill from the bruins waived ..He be good in bingo
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-2 #105 Sensnation 2011-09-27 12:24
Quoting Nizzy:
@jabs

NO I'm pretty sure it doesnt matter if its been a year if he is a RW that also can play LW Id rather see him play his nature position ..He has asked too go back to RW but its a wait and see .. thats why id like to see Folingo Zibby MM9 -Line

Well they played together last night and didnt look bad at all Philly is a stay at home Rundblad is risk taker there perfect for each other .


I must have missed his RW request. That line would be interesting too.
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+1 #106 miguel 2011-09-27 12:38
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Jabs

Oooohhh I didnt see you had them playing for only 9 games, if so, then yes I agree, neither Zib or Da Costa will play more than 9 games this year, no matter how well they do. Zibanejad is headed back to Sweden and Da Costa in the AHL.

Disagree Zibby back to SEL, Da Costa plays out the season
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0 #107 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-27 12:40
Finally, Locke is gone! Now we don't have to hear about people asking why he isn't playing on the big club...Sorry Corey!

Conboy and Lessard were both goons, not really needed.....
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0 #108 Sandy 2011-09-27 13:11
...Dont know about you but all of the above will make the team and have dressed together in pre-season.
Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Filatov, Foligno, Regin, Butler, Greening, Condra, Smith, Neil, Konopka, Da Costa.
And of all the names the last few are the ones that actually showed up.
So I dont know where you get you "we havent dressed our actual lineup yet"
Its gonna be a mixture of the players I just mentioned, which have problems scoring goals.[/quote)

Tookie -- I don't believe all of those players have been in the lineup at the same time. Same goes for the defense.
Lot of rookies mixed with the veterans.
Sens are now 2-2-1 in pre-season -- not that bad.

Why don't we wait until the end of Oct before we say mostly only Alfie, Spezza & Michalek will score. Give some of these kids a chance.. after all it is a re-build...
I just want these guys to compete and let the other team know they were in a hockey game.
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0 #109 Sandy 2011-09-27 13:15
Quoting Nizzy:
Ottawa Senators Lineup tonight vs Leafs

Greening-Spezza-Filatov
Foligno-Regin-Condra
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Butler
Daugavins-Smith-Neil.

Gonchar-Borowiecki
Cowen-Karlsson
Rundblad-Lee

Lehner

Kulimen - Grabovski - Macarthur
Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
Frattin - Boyce - Armstrong
Rosehill - Dupuis - Crabb/Orr

Liles-Schenn
Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Aulie-Franson


Goalie: Reimer.


See Toronto is icing almost all of their regular season roster. Let's hope the Sens can hold him. Lehner has to have a better game than the 1st one against the Leafs.
Keep your heads up when Phaneuf is on the ice.
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