With today's annual 3 on 3 tournament now in the books, the Sens officially wrap up their yearly Prospect Development Camp. The week long event is a great chance for the organization to see prospects first hand and for those prospects to see what it takes to be pro.
And if the reviews from Sens staff and fans are any indication, the future is extremely bright for the Ottawa Senators.
Early on in the camp, Director of Player Personnel Randy Lee suggested that this was the most talent he has seen at this camp in his 15 years with the organization. That statement certainly bodes well for the hockey club moving forward.
While I personally didn't have a chance to make it down for any of the events, I have been able to speak with a number of people that did and it really sounds like there is reason to be excited about a number of the players in this year's camp. The guy who I think I've heard the most positive reviews on is Jared Cowen.
Cowen has built on the success he enjoyed in Spokane and Binghamton this season and looks ready to make the jump.
He has learned to use his size to his advantage and demonstrated that regualrly in this camp. While these obviously aren't NHL guys he's going up against, Cowen was a physical force out there. You have to think the club wants to find a spot for him on next year's blue line.
Sixth overall selection Mika Zibanejad is another player that has impressed. It seemed like a foregone conclusion that he would head to Sweden for at least one more season but that no longer appears to be the case. If he can come to camp in good shape and a little bit stronger, I think he has a chance to crack the roster next season. Fellow Swede, Jakob Silfverberg would also have had a great shot at making the club but he plans to spend another season over in Sweden.
It's too bad because people at the camp seem extremely excited about this kid.
Team Blue ended up winning today's 3 on 3 tourny with a hard fought win over Team Grey. Members of the winning team included Ben Blood, Ryan Dzingle, Mike Hoffman, Kyril Lyamin, Stefan Noesen and Mark Stone.
If anyone had a chance to make it out to the Camp today, I would love to read some reviews on the tournament.
- Today was also the final episode in the Senate Reform series. I've read some pretty tough reviews of the series but overall, I enjoyed it. While it may not have had the depth some of us were hoping for, it is definitely a step in the right direction for the organization. It's great to see the Senators looking for new ways to connect with the fan base.
- I don't know about the rest of you but I can not recall the last time I got so much enjoyment out of a trade that had nothing to do with the Ottawa Senators. Last night's Heatley for Havlat swap is one that caught the league by surprise and left Sens fans with a smile on their face. Heatley, who was completely caught off guard by the deal, now heads to Minnesota to join a rebuilding Wild team in a city that apparently gets quite cold in the Winter time. See you on October 11, Dany.
- As we enter a bit of down time in the hockey off season, I can tell you that a new SensChirp contest is in the works. It will be quite similar to the Duck Hunt we had last summer. Stay tuned for details on that!
That sounds like a pretty good idea to me :)
Nothing specific but something I did hear that was interesting is that he is actually classified as a UFA not an RFA. The Sens still maintain exclusive negotiating rights though.
Any cap/contract experts know what the loop hole might be there?
Everything I've read says RFA, wish I could help.
Not sure how it works though.
Zibby: While I agree he has a shot at 2C next year, he has to have a big big summer. If he doesn't make major strides, I hope he goes back for development sake, because he has some things to work on (of course he does, he's 18).
Silfverberg: What a release, his top end speed is pretty good, but his quickness is something he can work on, stop and starting he gets beat. Did I mention what a release?
Petersson: After watching him, I think he's a lot closer to the NHL than people give him credit for. While he is tiny, he is kinda thick. Think of Ryan Shannon with better hands and an elite shot (especially wrister). I think with his back problems behind him *knock on wood* he will really develop rapidly. Look for him to be on the sens really soon.
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Chirp, stop brown-nosing the organization time after time. It was lame.
Rundblad: he is very poised with the puck, smooth skater, great passer, knows how to sneak in the back door. Only knock I have on him is trying a bit too much in traffic. Granted this is a 3on3 tourni, but I'v seen it in highlight reels of him. It won't fly in the nhl, and will cause for some serious giveaways and breakaways. But I'm sure he'll realize that quickly.
Kramer: an interesting person to watch. He's not the most skilled out there, but if he can work hard for 2 years, he could be a great 4th line enforcer.
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Post #158 on this page http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=939897&page=7 seems to state that TSN mentioned a few of our RFAs as UFAs. I'm guessing it was a mistake on their part?
Also, on this TSN page http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=38564 it shows only Ottawa as having no RFAs ... I think it's a mistake on their end, we know we have some even beyond Butler, right?
Was checking out the NHL's list of remaining UFAs and it struck me that four of the five goalies listed are former Sens. See - http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=568376&navid=DL|NHL|home . Can't help but see that as evidence of Ottawa's major shortfall for many years. Between Anderson and the ongoing development of Lehner, expect to see goaltending as a future strength of the team, instead of its Achilles heel.
Boro: this guy never stops. He was what made team red win the round robin. Coming from where he did (undrafted in Junior) he just never stops working and will continue to get better. Coaches dream. I say he makes the NHL in a few years when Phillips is gone and we have a bit more room.
Noesen: at times found myself wanting more. And then he'd do something spectacular. See the potential, just a few years out, which is great.
Prince: I'm going to end with this guy, because this was my favorite pick in the draft. Maybe it is a bit biased because of that, but this kid is unreal. At his size right now, he will get crushed. But I'm going to go out on a huge limb right now, and say he's the darkhorse to make this team in sept if he can put on 10 pounds in the summer.
Yeah. It's his brother.
Quoting Darcy Loewen:
thats what i thought too!
Or maybe Andy Sutton? I believe he was an expert...
First off thanks for the feedback on these guys, I'm loving it.
Hopefully a select game or two this season (vs Leafs) we get to see Ben up to flex his knuckles a bit.
its like this, "practice makes perfect" not really...
"Perfect practice makes perfect" thats better, let the kids learn nhl this year and without the pressure they will be just fine and ahead in their development compared to playing elsewhere and then coming to the nhl next year when there's more pressure to perform.
just my 2 cents that makes sense.
Michalek
Karlsson
2 - 1st round picks (2012 and option for 2013/2014)
Sorenson
You're basically giving up the 4 first rounders in one way or another and if anyone says Karlsson isn't worth it, than I feel sorry for you. With the D as bright as it is, he could be replaced.
He's an RFA. If you're a UFA, it means 'unrestricted' - no rights held by anyone.
Karlsson IS the reason our D is as bright as it is.
I feel sorry for you for wanting to sacrifice a rebuild...
Don't think so. And unfortunately he is too young to go to Bingo. Has a decent shot at making the World Junior team this year though which would be huge for him.
Stone looked good. He kept going into the dirty area and got a goal or two in the tourny. He isn't a great skater though, but that's what the summer is for.
My favourite player was also Shane Prince. He really used his legs and was competitive out there. He got into a shoving match with another player. I thought they were going to drop the gloves at one point. There's a video of it. Skip to 3:00: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV2FvHlrdyw
I thought that Zibanejad looked a bit worn out and would stop skating with 5 second left in the short periods. I hope he can pick up the intensity level and come back with a jump in the fall.
I noticed that Pageau was everywhere on the ice - that's a good thing. He had his head on a swivel when he was playing with and without the puck. He looked good out there.
NO !
side note: curtis mcbackup got signed by the yotes
He has one more year left at college.
but a commenter on TSN mentioned that Cory Clouston is in consideration for an assistant coaching job in Minny.
Don't know how true this is or where it came from... but would that not be Karma?
Would Heatley go to the GM and demand that Clouston not be hired? How long would it take for him to ask to be traded?
Thanks for the clarification!
He was a factor today in 3 on 3. His chances of cracking the roster in sept. Is about 1% I'd say.
I had really high hopes for him (based on stats purely), and he's a huge guy who still has room to fill out more. He understands how to score, always being in the right places. Not a guy who finds the dead areas on the ice, but a guy who fights infront of the net, and can finish in close. Soft, quick hands.
But his skating is awful, I can't stress this enough. There is a difference between just not fast, and just a bad skater all together, and stone is a bad skater all together. In battles he loses edges, and doesn't have good enough balance to play his power forward role against men. He can right now because guys are way smaller than him.
He's still a project with high upside. But years away.
Also not sure if this is old news or not, was away tenting all weekend, but Capitals signed Potulny as well.
sandy, that would be the best news ive ever heard. i think it might even top the fact that he was shocked to be traded, let alone traded to minesota.....
suck it up Danny.
I disagree... it wouldnt be sacrificing a rebuild to get one of the top 5 players in the league. if Murray could get him for that kind of return than you do it 100%
Anyone thinking that Karlsson is anywhere near Stamkos' level needs to check their head.
Mind you, all this is irrelevant anyways since he's staying in Tbay
Sounds like the 'yotes are preparing for a nose dive, with phoenix losing veteran players and a great goalie they are preparing for the basement. This will be beneficial for the yotes since they'll get new talent from drafting high. this will help the nhl sell the franchise, much like pitsburgh a few years back when lemieux was having trouble.
it sucks but thats todays nhl.
But in the meantime their attendance will continue to nose dive and the nhl is still footing the bill!
It's not guaranteed he stays there. Stamkos COULD very well want out of Tampa, for whatever reason. Not saying this is a sure thing, but a possibility. At that point, Yzerman basically has to get rid of him. Not to mention their financial issues.
I think many would agree with me that you are selling the farm in that trade. You guys are overvaluing superstars. Many will come up with the "Crosby won a cup though" debate. PITTS is the best managed team in the league, with depth. However, Ovie hasn't. Sedins haven't. It's about depth in the new NHL. Look at Boston. They have no real offensive superstar, just extreme depth. It's the key to winning. Trading the equivalent of 4 1st round picks makes OTT lose that depth. Hurts the future. Once again, IMO.
You can say that again.
I feel like Bettman is waiting to make Hamilton his biggest accomplishment so he can go out on a high note and maybe hear a cheer after his name for once. Doesn't make business sense why they've waited so long to get a team there.
Totally agree he will be in TBAY, but people are retarded if they wouldn't agree with my trade. Top 5 players dont grow on trees.
Wow, you might actually be insane. My deal prob would be a total fleecing of Tampa for a 21 year old player who is probably 2nd best in the league.
"NO, lets turn down a bonafide star for Karlsson ++"
Get your head checked!
Really doesn't matter because its not happening, but hypothetically if it did and that was the deal, you take it - end of story. And if you dont, you're a dummy.
The defense corps was horrible last year but could really have a bounce back year with a nice combination of vets and high ceiling rookies.
Anderson makes me more confident than I have been in Sens goaltending in a while so... Bring it on: 10 y/$75M
Why you such a dick about everything? Thank God you're not the Sens GM. ^^^read up there if you want your argument destroyed.
PS people gotta stop with these cliches. "Give your head a shake". "Trade him for a bag a pucks". Dear God.
Karlsson - good player, but will always be questioned for play in his own end. He will never win a norris and will likely net you 45-55 points and can be replaced.
Michalek - Not much is needed to be said here.
Sorenson - Book is still out, he is supposed to be good, but then again who knows
two first rounders - Ottawa wont be getting the next Crosby, Stamkos, Ovechkin in any of these upcoming drafts. They might get a good player, but will both be better than Stamkos who automatically puts you into a push for the playoffs right now and will grow with a team only bound to be better? No.
Either way, we all know the trade wont happen, but for those who scoff at it need to get off the drugs.
I think calling it "Karlsson ++" is a bit of an understatement.
I get how valuable Stamkos is, but giving up 4 first rounders (that if we didn't have Stamkos could be VERY good picks) is a lot. Your deal above - is it for his rights? Or a sign-and-trade? Why would they do that if they could get four first rounders instead? Or are you saying your package is worth MORE than four firsts?
I dunno, not saying it's insane or anything, but I'd really be wary of giving up 4 firsts for anyone - even Stamkos. Especially when you consider the salary he'd soak up. What if the cap starts to go down or level off?
Don't let Stevie Y read that - you'll talk him out of your deal!
Stamkos= 120pt player
Karlson= 45-55pts player
Michalek= 55-65pts player
Sorensen could turn into a solid NHLer, hitting 35-45pts maybe
1st round pick= player who will most likely chip in at least 30pts a year
1st round pick= same as last one, at the very least (assuming its a FWD or OFFDEF.)
SO youve just traded a potential 225pts/yr from multiple points of attack, for 120pts from a single point of attack.
That doesnt sound like a good trade to me. One player can be easily shutdown NO MATTER WHO IT IS, but 5 players, not so much. Maybe you should get off the drugs my jobless and liefless friend ;)
Mike your deal is ridiculous because Michalek is NHL proven already, Karlsson is almost that and there is no way you can predict his growth pattern ... he may always be small, but can still be a good defender, and 2-1sts. To me that is more than 4 - 1st round picks, so the offer sheet would be smarter, but then I go back to my original statement of he's not worth it. I'd give Michalek, Karlsson & 1 pick at most. The reason it's 4 picks is because they are all unknowns, if you're reducing the unknown aspect you shouldn't be paying more.
Go big or go home.
Either do a proper three year rebuild or make some huge noise like this. 75M / 10yr deal? Don't throw in a NTC and I'd take that leap. Besides, aren't we one of the only teams left that don't have some retarded 10 to 12 year contract in place with a player?
Furthermore, this was a trade where Lindros had handcuffed Quebec and requested a trade. We all know what that's like.
The Lightning will match any offer sheet for Stamkos. If he is unhappy, they will trade him.
And Mike Bauer, we got 2 roster players and a first round pick for Meszaros when he was an RFA. The asking price for Stamkos will be absolutely unreal. The only way Yzerman does this trade is if he hits a home run with the return.
Karlsson, Zibanejad, Spezza, and a two firsts is the type of deal it would take.
Mike's proposal is so one-sided it might as well be Kuba and Michalek for Stamkos
I don't expect Ottawa to get involed though, as I see Melnyk a little bit allergic to long term multi-million dollar contracts.
Not saying it's completely insane or anything, just too big a risk IMO. Now if SS had indicated that he'd love to play in Ottawa, wanted to win championships here etc that might change my mind - but can't see that really.
I'd rather take the methodical approach and see what we get with those 4 first rounders than put all our eggs in the Stamkos basket.
Who is? Me?
Yeah 'chirp - how DARE you get anything out of that Senate Reform! (end sarcasm)
And to say giving away next 4 1st rounders would cripple the Sens is a huge joke u dont know what would happen in the next 4 years and u cant compare it too are last 4 picks cause its all about were u sit in standings and as "TRUE "sens fan I dont plan on staying in last and watching Alfie retire and Spez waste away through a rebulid in his prime and waste those great years ..We have a New Core ..All we are missing is that Diamond Jewel !!
A step in the right direction is all I said haha. Obviously it could have been better.
Boro: Scored 3 goals and never stopped/ layed a big hit on Cowen and could have put someone out if he didn't pull back at the last minute. He was the reason the red team only allowed 1 goal in the tourny. Also was named the Hardest worker for the entire Camp. Coaches seemed to lean on him this camp to lead everyone from what he has told me and from the video's posted.
Hoffman: Seemed to be on another level today. Skated around almost everyone and semmed to pull off multiple highlight goals.
Stone: Finally saw why everyone is high on this kid. He is big,skilled and has some speed. Let an absolute laser go in one of the games. Stone and Hoffman looked very good together.
Prince: Plain and simple this kid has some dirty hands.
Overall the future looks great for the sens
I don't think you can say someone's not a true fan simply because they'd rather go with 4 very high picks than try and fit Stamkos under the cap long-term. It's a gamble at best - could work out but might not (see Lindros, Eric).
1. We have more known commodities than Spezza & Karlsson.
2. You want to stop building on our 1st round prospects for 4 years, just to get a 2nd line C?
Thoughts???
His play and stats have been elevated by the man on his right wing, who is the TRUE elite talent on that team, Martin St Louis. And any team who sells the farm for him will be very disappointed when they see his production drop from 100+pts to 70-80pts with lesser wingers. He is a one trick pony with that power play laser, and teams have caught on to him - as evidenced by his massive drop in production in the second half.
Lastly, to all you people acting as if we have such a deep young defence and can afford to spare them, how deep exactly is it? Stop to think about it - we have two blue chippers that are yet unproven, and one proven young stud. Outside of that are average prospects at BEST. The reason we can afford to develop so many fwds right now is because we have those 3 guys, two wouldn't cut it.
There are always injuries and if one of them is ready halfway through the season, I could really see them not only getting called up, but perhaps staying up.
Does anyone know about Silfverberg's clause re: whether he has to play the full year in Sweden if he starts there.
Am interested to know.
Or "I feel sorry for you" Like you said in post #25 Honestly man, no one needs your sympathy. I love how superior you act. Check yourself.
Back this up 5 or 6 years ago when Heatley was a 50 goal scorer-how would you look now if he was on your team and you had gotten rid of 4 first rounders for him?
How has it worked out for Toronto on the Kessel deal and they only had to give away 2 firsts (seguin, hamilton) imagine two more years/picks left.
Put Stamkos out on the ice then put 4 first rounders out their and have a game, the fact that one very good players is not worth 4 good players will become evident really fast.
Why was Zibanejad still on the floor for all the rest of the picks? I thought that was interesting.
I liked the Senate Reform series, while people are pissed that it didn't give juicy details like they might find while they're watching Glee (retards), it gave a lot of insight to me about the entire draft process and seeing it play out was pretty neat.
I actually wonder if he makes team Canada again. Of course I would love it if he didn't and had to either stay home (most likely) or suit up with Schubert and Sturm. Only to score one goal in the whole tourney.
According to Capgeek he's got three years left.
Maybe some sort of clause that his deal doesn't offically start until he comes over to play in the NHL or AHL? Petersson's deal looks similar.
That might mean we'll get to see one or both at the end of this year to "burn off" a year of their deal?
Champs - where's all this anger coming from? Every post seems to simply be attacking other posters with your "I love how..." comments. Not sure why you're hating on everyone so much. Feel free to argue your opinions or debate line combos etc, but leave the "flame wars" for other message boards okay?
I'd be surprised if it's iron-clad but would expect there's some sort of punishment if he leaves the SEL (i.e. he has to give money back he's earned so far or something). I think the best answer is to play the full year there if he goes back though. Not sure when the SEL season ends but he could potentially play some games hear after maybe to get ready for next season? I think they're done in March unless they make the playoffs.
Maybe he thought he will get a better chance in Edmonton.
I'm sure the Binghamton fans are a little pissed off that they lose both Potulny & Keller. And possibly Daugavins.
They can be replaced with prospects though.
I was talking about his current contract in Sweden. He's got 3 years left with us because he hasnt started his entry level contract yet
Ah. Couldn't find any details on his SEL contract. But I had been wondering about his NHL deal anyway. LOL
Not that 27 means he can't still make the NHL - hopefully he does.
Silfverberg's entry level contract this year has an outclause to go back to Brynas if he doesn't make it to Ottawa's opening day roster.
The problem for him apparently is that by the time Ottawa's training camp is finished, Brynas will be into their 6th week of their SEL season hence why he wants to return to Brynas and play for the them where he feels would help improve his development.
I don't know if the outclause will be in effect next year too but I'm pretty sure it will not
K there bud calm down, Spezza is a #1 center in his own right, no need to add Karlsson and two firsts. Spezz + Weircoch + 2 firsts should get it done.
Toobad theres no point of bringing in Stamkos if our only playmaker is gone.
With the D as bright as it is, he could be replaced.
NO !
Why you such a dick about everything? Thank God you're not the Sens GM. ^^^read up there if you want your argument destroyed.
PS people gotta stop with these cliches. "Give your head a shake". "Trade him for a bag a pucks". Dear God.
Or "I feel sorry for you" Like you said in post #25 Honestly man, no one needs your sympathy. I love how superior you act. Check yourself.
When people call others 'dumb' or 'retarded' it's uncalled for. I'm not being sympathetic towards you at all.
I'm not going to even argue with you. Leave the site to me and the rest of the people that don't want to be rude and want constructive conversation. "i feel sorry for" was in reference to Bauer's previous comment. Thanks for your concern though!
I'm sick of these kids man. This is supposed to be a friendly message board and people keep calling other retarded, idiots, dumb, etc.. They weren't directed at me, but they shouldn't happen at all. Chirp, you should start cracking down. These people are soiling your site.
Hence crippling the team. I'm not saying that this would be a fair trade, just the type of trade that Tampa would be looking for. RFA's fetch outrageous returns, just look at Meszaros and Kessel, and Stamkos is a far better player than either of them.
The team holding the RFA's rights has all the power in situations like these. They only deal Stamkos if the deal is a home run (ie more valuable than 4 first round picks). Otherwise, they keep Stamkos or take the 4 first round picks.
Poeple have to consider that Hockey, unforunately, is about putting bum's in seats.
Stamkos would definitely do that, especially if Spezza was not part of the package to get him.
We have great prospects; Thank you BM! But if you get a guy like SS who can contrinute immediately on Spezza'a wing, then do it. I don't care what prospects are required to make it go. Having said that, I would be remiss not to see prospects like Cowen, Rundblad, etc. skate for Ottawa if part of the deal.
I would love to see Stamkos and Spezza tear it up though.
I have already renewed my season tickets by the way (regardless of what transpires).
Go Sens Go!
KJ
I thought , , and looked solid together. was flying out there and was a finisher and strong along boards. did not look like a rookie and and good net drive,
is highly skilled and quick. looked solid and was always around the puck.< Rundblad> was a very strong skater and poised with the puck. was very smooth skating but looked a little timid (maybe it was that crushing check he took from Cowen). definitely looked like a leader out there and poised to be an NHLplayer even though 3 on 3 is not is strong point. showed some flashes, Had a couple of nice goals but think he may need more seasoning. Was always practicing even with Zamboni on ice which was good to see. and were laying out some good hits and had some nice goals.
What about signing Chris Drury for a 2 yr 2-3 million deal? or is he done with his injury's?
You've gotta be kidding me. First there were 2 meadowdog's and now someone's trying to nab my handle?
I vote no since you asked. Let the young guys play that have a shot of making a run with us in 2-3 years. I know that it's tough to draw big crowds during a rebuild but (selfishly) I'll still go and I really don't think Melnyk will try to bail if things are lean for a couple of seasons at the gate.
Thanks.
Seems like it - or (better yet) we have a strong enough team out of camp that we don't need to sign any UFAs. Really best case scenario is that enough of the younger guys push for spots now that we have a full team and the best plan for their development is to play in the NHL.
Any UFA we'd need for this season would mean one less young guy being that far along - not that taking a bit longer is a big issue though.
Someone asked how long Silverberg has on his SEL deal?
>>>>> He has one year left and that will also burn off one of his Sens contract years as well.
Mika Zibinajad has to sign a contract by July 15th in order to try out for camp this season under the transfer rules with the SEL. If he is not signed by the 15th he must go back to Sweden this season.
I wish Marty all the best in San Jose.
Chirp thanks for all the analysis over the last few weeks. Enjoyed your draft and prospect coverage especially via twitter.
A reason why I say we will be a bottom 5 team again this year (which is good for the draft) is our 2nd line, I think Filatov-Spezza- Butler will do the brunt of the scoring and our lack of a 2C is what will kill us, Michalek-Folign o/Regin/Da Costa-Alfie, with Alfie and Michalek being a push away from LTIR, that and our soft defence (Karlsson, Phillips, Gonchar, Kuba).
Oh and I hate Colorado, they basically gave Yakupov to Washington, what a STUPID fucking trade!!!
Im gonna go out on a limb and say this Noesen kid will be our next 50 goal scorer(whenever that may be). I zero'ed in on this kid and 90% of his shots, whether it be 2 on 1 drill, 1 on 1 drill, breakaways, shooting drill, went IN!!
I know the goalies were not of high caliber quality but its still hard to score 9 times out of 10 in any situation.
5 games including final:
Orange vs Grey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV2FvHlrdyw
Black vs Red: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22zieZisUN4
Blue vs Grey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUZdanoPVrs
Grey vs Red(semifinal): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAQR4uyv7Q
Blue vs Grey (final): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIE6X8PhMx0
I can honestly say that I *never* thought I'd be challenged for this name!
So long as neither of us 'Darcys' give the other a bad name I suppose it's not a big deal. But I'll point out that I was the Head of the (self-proclaime d) Darcy Loewen Fan Club since he was picked up by the Sens and we had signs made up that we hung over the bannister at the Civic Center where my folks had season tix. Every time old 'Chainsaw' would circle around the net at the beginning of the 2nd period we'd give him a huge ovation and he'd give us a wink.
There's the "put bums on seats" and the "put bums on seats LONG ENOUGH SO THE SEAT'S WARM".
By essentially sacrificing our future for an immediate return is like having a portfolio of stocks on some IPO of some unknown company without any allocations in to insurance and bonds. Yeh sure, it's all fun and exciting to have SS next to JS and I'm sure people will attend games but how long would that last? 3-4 years down the road when JS is gone and our prospects needs to fill the holes... wait... WAIT.. WE just gave all our prospects away!
Building a team is very much like building a business and/or investment portfolio. It doesn't happen overnight and it definitely doesn't come from dumping all your eggs in one basket.
SS is a luxury to have but it is a luxury we cannot afford.
I'm going to assume you mean "to BOO Heatley" ;)
Quoting timwrx:
Meh. I'd rather have a slightly worse team with a spot for a player that could eventually make the Senators.
Also, Stamkos us going nowhere but tampa. I thought that was obvious, even if they're having difficulties.
@DarcyLoewen - I never thought anyone would usurp my PeterSidorkiewi cz handle, but I'm pretty sure that's where the poster in question started. And yeah, it was fucking awesome to watch Darcy play. Don't know that I've EVER seen anyone work as hard as him. Buzzsaw was a very apt nickname, but personally, I always thought of him as a combo buzzsaw/wreckin g ball :)
And to reiterate, Stamkos will stay in Tampa, period.
Karlsson is my favourite player on the Sens but I'd do your proposed trade in a second.
However if I was the LA GM and I did that trade I would expect to be lynched the next time I walked down the street. Karlsson and a 2nd rounder isn't close to being good value for Doughty. Doughty is going to be a multiple Norris winner and a Captain of Canada at some point in his career.
As much as I love Karlsson he hasn't got the defensive game to even get close to the Norris.
Although as much as we have seen it here, there is 100 times as much Stamkos chatter going on among Leaf fans. Poor, disappointed Leaf fans.
Except that nobody on the streets of LA has any idea who Doughty is - let alone the GM of the Kings. They barely know they have a team.
But your point is valid.
so is yours.
I completely agree - the big knock on him is he's small, but I guarantee he makes it within three years, and I fully expect a breakout season in Bingo next year with tons of goals. The guy has an unbelievable shot that will only improve as he adds muscle to his frame, and now that he is more used to winning battles against men, he will develop quicker. I expect him to be a good 3rd/maybe 2nd line player at some point.
Of course...toront o fans always expect that every player is just dying to be a leaf.
Reading through the posts on the article there's alot of good feedback from folks wishing Keller all the best. Then there's one post that stands out amongst the rest....it reads:
from "themothman" - How did they get him so cheap, aren't the Canucks going to miss him, he was a candidate for playoff MVP this year...good bargain for the Oilers. Sedins need to find a new linemate.
I had to read it twice to figure out what the hell the guy was saying...then it hit me. Then I laughed out loud.
Haha awesome
Now, am I the only one that finds it hilarious that Cliff "Jeff Finger" Fletcher is saying that heatley is a classy guy? Sure he isn't mistaking Heately for Thorton or Marleau?
Believe that was Chuck Fletcher
That said, same family...Here's hoping for Minny that the "Jeff Finger" gene didn't get passed down :)
A unique and bold prediction backed by empirical observation.
I like it.
Murray spent 3 yrs re-building the defense. To keep it not trade it away.
Some of these GM's with the contracts are getting way out of hand. Teams taking their mistakes (ie Rangers with Redden) and burying them in the minors to get around the cap.
The league will tighten up the loopholes.
The league is growing but salaries are getting too high again.
Save the owners from themselves.
The new NHLPA head honcho is known to be a hard negotiator and taking his players to a strike.
I fear no hockey in 2012/13. Will definitely hurt the league, especially when they have a chance to really grow it in the southern US if the NBA & NFL strike this next season.
Comparing Lindros to Stamkos is like comparing Stamkos to Kessel - not the same. Stamkos is 10x a better player than Lindros is and will shatter any numbers Lindros put up in his day. The trade for Lindros was an overpayment, but my hypothetical deal is not obv not happening, just putting it out there. Some of you 'sens fans' overvalue what you have here...every other market would see our players and prospects as average at best. Adding Stamkos, if the price was right, is a no brainer. But again, its not happening.