(UPDATE 11:01 AM)- Episode 4 of Senate Reform is now available. You can find it under the highlights tab on the home page of this site.
In a trade that will certainly have some Sens fans talking (and others laughing), the Minnesota Wild and San Jose Sharks have pulled off a Sunday night blockbuster. Headed to San Jose is former Senator Martin Havlat while on his way to Minnesota is Dany Heatley.
I know this may not be Sens news but I would be fascinated to hear what Sens fans think of this deal. And just when you thought this trade couldn't get any more entertaining...the Ottawa Senators play their home opener against the Minnesota Wild.
That game just got a whole lot more interesting.
Heatley for Havlat- Senate Reform Ep. 04
Haha that was my reaction too.
All that being said, I personally worry for Heater. I think he has some lingering psychological issues that need dealing with.
Should have stayed with the city and team that appreciated you the most.
Up yours.
+1 to that list
2.5 mil to be exact in the trade cleared up.
minnesota looks good
I'll be sure to boo him extra hard for you guys.
Looks like he's trying to stay out of the East, where effort is required by all players on the team.
If things don't work out in Minnesota, maybe they'll put him through a woodchipper like in Fargo.
sorry, but has to be.
He already voided it when he wanted to get traded to san jose, or when he didnt waive to go to edmonton. He only was allowed to void it once and that was on that occasion, now he is able to be traded anywhere without him having to waive his ntc. I'm happy this dick got what he deserved but i think Minnisota is better since koivu actually has someone to feed the puck to
hahahaha that made me laugh; but yesssss round 2 of the heatley bashing will be glorious; season opener oooooo boyyyyy cant wait; the hockey gods are too kind
Not true at all. As per Dreger,
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Heatley has a modified no-trade. Had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn't go to before July 1. obviously Minny wasn't on that list.
Heatley has a modified no-trade. Had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn't go to before July 1. obviously Minny wasn't on that list.
To by july 1 as per his modified NTC, so minnesota wasnt 1 of
Those teams, still hilarious they he got shaftet by SJ!!! karma is a bitch heatley!!
Well seeing as how he has a no trade clause, he would have to now wouldn't he.....
Awesome!
#2 Minnesota got raped in this deal Heatley is a selfish Douchebag that is on the decline
#3 I can now cheer for SJ (or at least not hate them)
From what I've been lead to believe, it was a limited NTC... Once he asked for a trade the first time, he allowed for a clause to kick in that as of July 1st he could be traded to 20 teams. He had the right to veto any on his list of 10.
Please don't send me away! I'll do anything! I'll suck your d**k!
Haha...eat it, douche!
i guess Murray didnt botch the Heatley trade as much as people thought...
what goes around comes around...
And I said it: Heatley is likely going to get moved, if I felt like it I'd find the post in which I said it. I fucking love San Jose now!!!
Go Sharks Go!!!
and for the record I'd have taken Mach 9 back in a heartbeat, next to Alfie he's my all time favourite Senator. Still have bad memories of that Michael Ryder hit.
So now in essence it's
Michalek, Cheech, Lehner
for
Havlat
Fletcher was in on Heatley, but said no when BM asked that Burns be part of the package. Good luck with him Yeo,,, GOOOOODDDD LUCK!
1. Ottawa
2. Ottawa
3. Ottawa
4. Ottawa
5. Ottawa
6. Ottawa
7. Ottawa
8. Ottawa
9. Ottawa
10. Edmonton
that must mean Toronto's chance is 0.0000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 0000001%
I would love to be a fly on the wall listening to Murray talking with Eugene. "Thanks for inserting that clause into the contract. You just made my summer"!
I would disagree, the Wild have one hell of a nice team coming up. Not only did they fleece SJ in the Setoguchi trade, now they have a top line sniper to play with Koivu.
The Wild had a great draft aswell, add Coyle (beast!!) from SJ and they have a nice crop of top 6 talent (Bouchard, Gillies, Brodin and Z.Phillips).
I would imagine their top 6 loks like this:
Setoguchi Koivu Heatley
Latendresse/Miettenen Bouchard Kassian/Gillies
Lots of option and a pretty nice top 6!
You should go to bed, you dont know what your talking about, that top 6 puts our to shame.
1) A limited NMC significantly improves the potential return on a player. There were 19 teams that Heatley could be traded to, which improves the return that Wilson could get. Sadly, Murray never had this option, is was SJ or SJ or SJ.
2) Heatley either didn't see this coming, or he asked for a trade in private and kept it out of the media. Regardless, the stories about the trade didn't get out, which also improved the return.
If Heatley is worth Havlat now, he would have been worth a ton more back when the Senators moved him. Very sad in hindsight that all Murray was able to get of any value was Michalek.
If Michalek is able to get back to 60pts this year, then I'm ok with it, but unless that happens, Ottawa still came out big losers in that trade, and that is Heatley's fault. So fuck him.
A nice little parting gift from the Senators organization.
I bet the Sharks fans were shocked too when they realized they were paying a guy 7.5M to get 26 regular season goals and not show up in the playoffs...
To know that Heatley's elite status is completely out the window really puts a different face on the Michalek trade.
I know I don't just speak for myself when I say a lot of fans were just waiting for the Sharks to be fed up with that prima donna little fucker.
I almost feel sorry for the Wild... ALMOST!
Sharks should be better with Havlat, especially come playoff time. Always loved Marty's game.
Reap it asshole
One interesting thing to consider is Spezza might have the same stipulation, so the Sens might be able to trade him to any team not on a 10 team list.
Sorry...but you are WRONG about the NTC/NMC.
Heatley still had to waive it to be traded from SJ to Minny.
An NTC/NMC doesn't get voided by exercising that option. IF it did, then we could have traded Redden after he invoked his NTC.
An NTC/NMC stays in effect until the expiration of the contract or the expiration of the terms that an NTC/NMC was agreed upon.
If Heatley wasn't so selfish he would still be a fan favourite in Ottawa even with a decline in production that may or may not have happened to him here. He bit the hand that fed him and he can never come back. Lets fill the bank on home opener and boo the shit out of him.
Apparently, later in his contract his NMC changed to a modified NMC where he had to submit a list of 10 teams he would not go to.
You're actually wrong too. He didn't have to waive anything to go to MIN. He had a window where his NMC turned into a limited NMC. He had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn't go to, before July 1st.
I strongly disagree with you Tookie. Koivu is a poor man's 1st line C, Heatley is only good in 1 aspect of the game, Setoguchi still has lot to learn about consistency and fits better on a 2nd line until he does, and Bouchard is pretty injury prone, but plays well when healthy. They have a bunch of 2a type players, no true 1st line players. I would take Ottawa's lineup and depth in a minute over Minnesota's!
Havlat on the other hand has some pressure taken off of him as he will play second fiddle to Jumbo Joe and Marleau. If Marty gets to use his speed and go up against the second lines of other teams, he should potentially flourish.
I can see this trade working out for both teams.
You really think Heatley's problem for the last half decade has been motivation? He's a 1 way player that demands and expects 2 way TOI.
Luckily for them Minnesota is full of playmakers that might be able to give him those empty net 1 timers, but I hope they just hang at the bottom of the standings for the rest of his career. I used to like Minnesota, not anymore!
As for Heatley, the entire situation has left a bad taste in my mouth. All I can say (as others have) ... Karma is a &*)%. Enjoy the warm weather of Minnesota. Bet he now wishes he had added Minn to his list of 10 cities.
My point is that both players could flourish with their new teams. Heatley is not playing second fiddle to Jumbo Joe or Marleau in Minny. He will be first line. Minny is also a very good hockey market with educated hockey fans that will support him or bash him depending on his play.
Ya I look forward to the boos from his new home fans too! ;)
Agreed, was just discussing this earlier with my co-worker, but we came to the conclusion neither of us thinks Heatley is smart enough for that.
I just watched the new Senate Reform video you posted Chirp....It was kind of cool seeing Gyllenhal...er. .I mean Zibanejad at the Sens table on the 2nd day of the draft handing out jersey's and greeting S.Prince, etc...
Are you kidding? Heatley? Smart? I'm sure Ottawa and Edmonton were on the list. He's not that bright.
Haha you're so right. The IF in my sentence was key. I am sure he put both OTT and EDM on the list...
I liked the episode, but I would've like to hear names mentioned during their meeting. If they really want to give the fans more of an inside look they should've shown us the list before they were going to make the picks. I don't understand why they hid it even though we know the results.
I assume that Ottawa and Edmonton were NOT on the list as those 2 teams would not trade for him anyway.
Five would be all other Cdn teams. The other five -- who knows. SJ wins that trade,.
Heatley can't skate... he has no desire to improve himself in the off-season. I wonder if his ego took a hit with this trade.
Just think he also has to play 3 games each in Edm, Van & Cal where he is not liked very much.
Let's hope the Sens put up a better showing than they did in the SJ game. Of course, Elliott won't be in net.
My god, Tookie, if you don't like the players on the Sens that much... why not cheer for another team?
Have you ever said anything positive about the Sens?
No he certainly is not.
To the individual that is posting those messages, please stop. I really don't want to have to go through the process of banning someone from the site but I really don't have any choice if those posts continue.
Thanks.
Not sure on how true this is or where it came from -- but one commenter on TSN mentioned that Cory Clouston is in line for an assistant coaching job in Minny.
Now that would be real funny.
How long before Heatley wants out?
If Clouston does get a job with the Wild I will laugh even harder, I hope he gives Heatley a reduced role.
i remember you rambling on about how Mark Stone would always be a bad skater and that it was an issue of genetics etc.
is quote from Randy Lee is for You.....
Director of player development Randy Lee said if Stone’s skating catches up with his scoring touch, he has got a great future.
“He’s a below-average skater and he knows it,” said Lee.
“So he knows there are things he has got to work on.
“And we told him there are a lot of guys here with skating limitations and they thought they couldn’t get better. But they can. They can improve.
“People think, ‘Oh, that’s just what they are.’ But no, it’s not a handicap if you’re willing to work at it.”
@sandy...
that would be the icing on the cake!
pretty sure heatley wanted out as soon as he heard that hes moving to minesota!
HE knows we'd never want him back - he put 10 other teams for sure.
Islanders, Edmonton, Phoenix, Winnipeg, Calgary I bet were all on the list.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2011/07/04/heatley-i-didn%e2%80%99t-have-any-idea-until-they-talked-to-me-yesterday-but-thats-the-way-it-goes/
I'd feel bad for him... except he is an ass.
Thats what dany heatley just said in an article on his trade to minnesota. You gotta be joking in the last 2 sentances