Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:47

Cameron/Reeds Official- Schedule Released

As expected, the Ottawa senators have named Dave Cameron and Mark Reeds as Assistant Coaches.  They join new bench boss Paul MacLean in what will be a new look coaching staff in Ottawa next season.

The hiring of Cameron has been a hot button topic in Ottawa but I have heard mostly good things about him as a coach. Hard working guy that seems like a good fit. Don't know much about Reeds but he was the OHL Coach of the Year in Owen Sound this past season and has a relationship with MacLean.

Luke Richardson will stay on with the Sens as a part time assistant while Rick Wamsley will return as the club's Goaltending Coach.


A day after releasing the preseason schedule, the NHL has released the complete schedule for the 2011/2011 Regular Season.  The Ottawa Senators will open up the season on October 7th against Paul MacLean's former team in the Detroit Red Wings.  They take on the Leafs the following night.

As I mentioned before, the Sens will play their home opener against the Minnesota Wild on Tuesday, October 11.

The full schedule can be seen here.

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0 #301 Lambchops 2011-06-23 19:04
http://www.mynhldraft.com/2011/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Phillip-Danault

This guy looks solid for a second round pick
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0 #302 SensChirp 2011-06-23 19:06
Nah actually haven't heard anything bad about MacLean. I think he may not be much of a systems guy but he has put together a good staff and I have no concerns about the job he is going to do here.
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+1 #303 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-06-23 19:06
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Johne:
Staal is too slow for my likings, not enough WOW in his game for me. I'm tired of two-way forwards. I want explosive offense.



I would take Jordan Staal in a heart beat. The kid is 22, and has been burried behind 2 of the top players in the league. He flourished with more time last year and I think you'll see he'll easily be a 60+pt player in the near future. He put up 30pts in 42games last year and at 22 is already one of the best penalty killers.


Ya Jordan Staal's sick. 30 points in 42 games coming back from a brutal injury he was great.

If he played on the second line for Pitt he would have 20+ extra points every year easily.

Johne mentioned how he's looking for explosive offense and is tired of 2 way forwards, yet wants Landeskog smh.
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0 #304 Johne 2011-06-23 19:07
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:

Johne mentioned how he's looking for explosive offense and is tired of 2 way forwards, yet wants Landeskog smh.


I want STROME

S T R O M E
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0 #305 EMG 2011-06-23 19:07
Quoting Johne:
Staal is too slow for my likings, not enough WOW in his game for me. I'm tired of two-way forwards. I want explosive offense.


Yep! My ranking based on need : RNH, Huberdeau, Strome. As I said, based on need. These guys have 1st-2nd line potential as opposed to others like Couturier, Landeskog an Zibanejad who are pegged as either two way players or 2nd-3rd line potential.
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0 #306 Floridasensfan 2011-06-23 19:08
If Oilers are looking for a Karlsson why don't they pick Larsson.
If we had third pick the cost to move to first might not be so bad.
I think it will take multiple deals to get where we want to be.
I still think even if a deal is made they wait for draft day to let it out.
Shock value or entertainment value.
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0 #307 Sandy 2011-06-23 19:12
Quoting Johne:
So since there is no way to possibly figure out who the Sens draft tomorrow, do y'all think we keep #6 or trade it? I think we trade it.


Cody Hodgson or T J Oshie? Sound okay or crazy?
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+1 #308 Sandy 2011-06-23 19:17
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
I've always loved Jordan Staal, on most teams he's is a second line centre. Plays a great two way game, wins faceoffs, creates offense, bit of a power forward game, scores goals. He's sick. When he came back from injury he was the catalyst.

If Couturier is like Jordan Staal I would be ecstatic.

Avs are very high on Landeskog. They need a power forward guy to replace Chris Stewart. I don't see them moving for anything.


Remember Couturier had mono for a good stretch of the season. He did not benefit, like Huberdeau, to play on a stacked team.

Paul McLean wants players to play in all areas of the ice... he wants speed. They say that Couturier can play good defensively, is good offensively.. I've never seen him... is he a good skater?
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-3 #309 Mat 2011-06-23 19:21
Quoting Johne:
I'm so glad Yost didn't join this community, he is just an Eklund Jr. All tease and nothing to show for it. Gets a rumor right once in a decade.


Credit where credit is due man. That last article had no point but in general, he's quite insightful.

No need to be childish. There's no hatin' on Yost here. He ain't Eklund...
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0 #310 KJ-Sens 2011-06-23 19:23
The Sens have their list. People want to prognosticate about what they think they need, but only the Sens Scouts know what they want. As good as Sens Prospects are on D, Murphy is a bonafide steal of a offensive Defenseman.

Don't forget that Sens aren't ncessarily drafting for next year. They are drafting for the future, and it may be cliche, but "you can never have enough good defenseman".

Not saying they are picking him, but the kid is freeakin' good.

KJ
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+1 #311 SensChirp 2011-06-23 19:27
Price to move up is high right now but the Sens are counting on it coming down. Still targeting #3 if Landeskog is on the board.
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0 #312 Sensnation 2011-06-23 19:32
Quoting KJ-Sens:
The Sens have their list. People want to prognosticate about what they think they need, but only the Sens Scouts know what they want. As good as Sens Prospects are on D, Murphy is a bonafide steal of a offensive Defenseman.

Don't forget that Sens aren't ncessarily drafting for next year. They are drafting for the future, and it may be cliche, but "you can never have enough good defenseman".

Not saying they are picking him, but the kid is freeakin' good.

KJ


He's great, but just may not be nhl material. It'll be interesting to see.
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+3 #313 SensChirp 2011-06-23 19:32
Day before the draft and I was told that Sens scouts are still adjusting their list. This draft is so unpredictable.
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0 #314 TheTyrantWee 2011-06-23 19:32
I don't expect to see a trade up. RNH, Larsson, Huberdeau, and Landeskog have separated themselves enough that I can't see the teams in front not taking them.

Put yourselves in the situation. You step up to the podium at 3rd/4th overall about to take Huberdeau/Lande skog. Do you trade down for an extra 2nd rounder only to take Couturier who you don't favour quite as much? Probably not. Couturier has dropped on most peoples boards for a reason. There is a big enough gap that I'll be surprised if someone moves down for less than a kings ransom that isn't worth paying.
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+1 #315 karlssens 2011-06-23 19:35
I am so pumped for tomorrow its not even funny. Like I have said before on here a friend of mine's dad works with Ottawa and apparently the sens want Cutourier really bad.. they are even willing to trade up a spot or two to get him. I for one hope the sens do land Cutourier because I think he has the highest potential out of all the picks. Just my opinion. I have been pro Cutourier all year so I am not about to change now.

Bring on tomorrow :)
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0 #316 karlssens 2011-06-23 19:36
Chirp can you confirm that big C is Ottawa's main target?
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0 #317 TheTyrantWee 2011-06-23 19:36
Also IMO if anyone in the top five is going to slide I see it being Dougie Hamilton. Good player but he doesn't seem to have the upside of the top 5-7 forwards in the draft. If you want Lando cross your fingers that Devils/Islander s scouts have a weird hunch to play.
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+1 #318 Floridasensfan 2011-06-23 19:37
Chirp if we did get to 3 and they felt comfortable to get Lando would they consider the extra bump to get RNH or would they sit pat with Lando.

whats your feeling
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+1 #319 SensChirp 2011-06-23 19:39
Quoting Floridasensfan:
Chirp if we did get to 3 and they felt comfortable to get Lando would they consider the extra bump to get RNH or would they sit pat with Lando.

whats your feeling

Really think Landeskog is their guy. Wont pay a ridiculous price but he is Plan A.
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0 #320 Mike Bauer 2011-06-23 19:41
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Mike Bauer:
[quote name="TKM18"][quote name="Mike Bauer"]

Wow, you obviously dont really know how good Schenn is going to be.


The problem with your argument with Schenn is that he no longer has free pass into a second line center role that he had in LA. Even without Richards and Carter, Schenn is going to be competing with Giroux and Briere. Schenn slides into a third line center role - he's going to get Hodgesoned.

The deal makes little sense for LA because now they have a thin prospect cupboard up front. The deal makes NO sense for Philly because they need D prospects to prepare for life without pronger and timonen.
Philly should have been pushing for someone like Hickey instead of Simmonds.


Philly will be drafting a D-man with the 8th pick - almost a lock
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-1 #321 Dirtysweetness 2011-06-23 19:41
What are three second round picks worth? A 5-10 first round pick?
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+1 #322 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-06-23 19:42
Quoting TheTyrantWee:
Also IMO if anyone in the top five is going to slide I see it being Dougie Hamilton. Good player but he doesn't seem to have the upside of the top 5-7 forwards in the draft. If you want Lando cross your fingers that Devils/Islanders scouts have a weird hunch to play.



Dougie Hamilton is a defenceman.
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0 #323 Mike Bauer 2011-06-23 19:47
Quoting SensChirp:
Disagree. The Sens saying the price is too high to move up the 6th right now means nothing. That price will come down if another team feels they can get their guy lower and add assets. It's all posturing right now.


I love how your readers actually believe Murray when he says they are staying put. I mean, in the end, they might but hes obviously going to say hes fine with staying put because he doesnt want to get fleeced and overpay.
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-2 #324 hamany 2011-06-23 19:50
cant wait till the 6th pick. oh and tsn said its official murray wont trade up to get a higher pick. it was to late
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0 #325 hambone 2011-06-23 19:51
Quoting Round Leaf:

The deal makes little sense for LA because now they have a thin prospect cupboard up front. The deal makes NO sense for Philly because they need D prospects to prepare for life without pronger and timonen.
Philly should have been pushing for someone like Hickey instead of Simmonds.


Actually Philly can pick Hamilton @ 8 and be fine on defense. Cobourn, Meszaros, Carle are all coming into their prime. Pronger and Timonen will be around and effective for 2-3 years. Schenn can be moved to the wing; the C -> W transition is common enough for talented junior players with strong skating. This is a ballsy play to be sure, as both players leaving were great, but the Flyers now have high quality competition for places on scoring lines with JvR, Voracek, Leino (should he sign), *and* a top tier goaltender. They are a contender.
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-1 #326 PraiseAlfie84 2011-06-23 19:51
Hmm 3 2nd round picks for 3rd overall....I'd say 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd...
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0 #327 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-06-23 19:52
I really dont see it going any other way

Edm -RNH
Col- Landeskog
FLA- Larsson
NJ-Huberdeau
NYI Hamilton
Ott Couturier
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0 #328 Floridasensfan 2011-06-23 19:53
wonder what we would have to give to get the 21st pick to 3rd

I Still hope for Lando and Strome.
sounds like from what you are saying is the only way we could end up with RNH is we get Lando and RNH

I guess it is a pipe dream but we sure could use them both.

It is not unreasonable we trade with Philly for the 8th and fill their D needs is it.
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0 #329 SensChirp 2011-06-23 19:53
Quoting hamany:
cant wait till the 6th pick. oh and tsn said its official murray wont trade up to get a higher pick. it was to late

Pardon?
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-1 #330 karlssens 2011-06-23 19:54
We either grab Cutourier, Strome, or Hamilton. Those will be our three choices at 6. The draft order will go as follows:

RNH
Larsson
Landeskog
Hubredeau
Hamilton
Couturier
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0 #331 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-06-23 19:55
Quoting hamany:
cant wait till the 6th pick. oh and tsn said its official murray wont trade up to get a higher pick. it was to late

Aha I don't think there's a deadline buddy lol
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0 #332 Johne 2011-06-23 19:55
I think if Murray picks 6th, he'll be out of breath from trying to trade up every pick along the way. The Avs are going to dictate how aggressive Murray gets if they take Larsson or Landeskog.

If they take Larsson, then its going to be a move up to grab Landeskog @ #3

But if they take Landeskog, I don't see Murray making a move up to grab anyone else unless someone else they're high on slides to #5. And even then they might just be content with 6th.

I can't wait.
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+3 #333 karlssens 2011-06-23 20:00
I can't explain it but I just think that RNH is very over rated. He has bust written all over him. Landeskog will never be a 5 million dollar + player. He is literally going to be a Mike Fisher or Mike Richards at best. He dominates the OHL because he hit puberty when we was like 5 so he has already fully developed. Once he plays against other physically developed players in the NHL he will not be nearly as effective. Couturier has the highest ceiling for me because he has the highest goal - point ratio and is not even fully developed. If we grab him at 6 we should be thanking the hockey gods.
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+2 #334 karlssens 2011-06-23 20:02
Also, RNH is an assist machine... he basically lives off of the powerplay because he is not a stand out player 5v5. In the NHL with better defensive zone coverage he will not be as productive. I see him as a 50-60 point player
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0 #335 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-06-23 20:03
Quoting karlssens:
I can't explain it but I just think that RNH is very over rated. He has bust written all over him. Landeskog will never be a 5 million dollar + player. He is literally going to be a Mike Fisher or Mike Richards at best. He dominates the OHL because he puberty when we was like 5 so he has fully developed. Once he plays against other physically developed players in the NHL he will not be nearly as effective. Couturier has the highest ceiling for me because he has the highest goal - point ratio and is not even fully developed. If we grab him at 6 we should be thanking the hockey gods.


The thing is, Landeskog didn't even dominate though. His points for a top 5 pick are incredibly low. Not worth a top 3 selection.

If he's left at sixth, by all means.

If Landeskog is anything like Mike Richards I'll pass. I don't like Mike Richards I think he's overrated..

The darkhorse is Ryan Strome.
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0 #336 SIMMAN 2011-06-23 20:12
Quoting karlssens:
Also, RNH is an assist machine... he basically lives off of the powerplay because he is not a stand out player 5v5. In the NHL with better defensive zone coverage he will not be as productive. I see him as a 50-60 point player


That would be your opinion vs EVERY other PROFESSIONAL scout who has seen him play. Did you not see the man love flowing from Dorion to RNH during the interview on Senator Reform? Please let us be sensible with these amateur evaluations. I will trust Dorion and staff first.
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+1 #337 Round Leaf 2011-06-23 20:13
@hambone

I hadn't thought about the Flyers' 8th pick, which I'm guessing will be Ryan Murphy. That said, they got that pick from the Carter deal, which more or less voids that argument.
Carle and Meszaros are serviceable D men, but they're point totals and +/- are inflated by Philly's top offense. They could still be in for a world of hurt if Cobourne is the only top 4 guy they have left in 4 years.
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0 #338 MM41966 2011-06-23 20:19
Sharks re-sign Devin Setoguchi 3 years - $9 million
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0 #339 Johne 2011-06-23 20:20
I think RNH is a good hockey player, but do you really think the Oilers would be offering that 1st pick around if RNH was going to be a bona fide superstar?

I think Landeskog or Strome is the only way to go this draft. You get Spezza someone to feed the puck to in Landeskog or you get a human highlight reel in Strome.
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0 #340 Floridasensfan 2011-06-23 20:24
If Lando can fill Mike Fishers skates and we dumped Mikes salary for Lando's what is the problem.

If he turns out better than that jackpot.

RNH Spezza Butler
Michalek Landeskog Alfie

Landeskog Spezza Butler
Michalek Strome Alfie

Silverburg Petersson are in the wings down the road.
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0 #341 MM41966 2011-06-23 20:24
Bob Mackenzie said tonight on TSN that the Oilers could pick RNH or Gabriel Landerskog.
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0 #342 MM41966 2011-06-23 20:25
Andrei Markov signs a new three year deal with the Habs.
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+2 #343 Senut 2011-06-23 20:28
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting hamany:
cant wait till the 6th pick. oh and tsn said its official murray wont trade up to get a higher pick. it was to late

Pardon?


Hahaha Chirp. Your response literally made me laugh out loud.
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0 #344 Senut 2011-06-23 20:32
Quoting Johne:
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:

Johne mentioned how he's looking for explosive offense and is tired of 2 way forwards, yet wants Landeskog smh.


I want STROME

S T R O M E

TSN said they thought the Isles would take him at 5.
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0 #345 MM41966 2011-06-23 20:32
Chirp, Are you hearing the same rumours as Yost, that the Sens are talking to the Blues about T.J Oshie? Thank you
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0 #346 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-06-23 20:44
My Mock Draft Come Hurry up Draft


6th - Couturier
21st-Philips or Biggs
35th -Jurco
48th - John Gibson (goalie) time to build within
61- Seth Ambroz ( draft steal ) ..6'2 202 Power Forward
66th- Michael Mersch 6'2 200 LW led his team plus 23
95th- Adam Pettersson 6'1 192 LW/C ..Skelleftea
125th- Johan Sundstrom 6'2 196 C/RW ..Net Crasher (Holmstrom style)
155-Samuel Noreau 6'5 212 ..Outright Nasty Shutdown Dman
170th- Joel Lowry 6'1 180 LW ...Energy guy
185th-William Karlsson 6'0 162 Center . ( Erik Karlsson"s brother )

Man I hope tomorrow comes fast ..
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0 #347 karlssens 2011-06-23 20:56
I am not saying I am going to be right with my opinions, I just stated what I thought will happen based on my knowledge and intellect of the game. Who cares what analysts say? They are human as well and watch players like we do. Just because someone made it to the NHL does not mean that they can judge talent more effectively than someone who studies the game.
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0 #348 conservativeHippie 2011-06-23 20:56
Whoa, whoa!

Karlesson has a brother in the draft???

Looking up now...
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0 #349 Johne 2011-06-23 20:58
With trade talks heating up ahead of Friday's NHL Entry Draft, Dallas Stars general manager Joe Nieuwendyk has stated his willingness to deal the 14th overall pick. According to the Dallas Morning News, Nieuwendyk would look to trade down to get another pick later in the draft.
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0 #350 Sandy 2011-06-23 21:00
Quoting hamany:
cant wait till the 6th pick. oh and tsn said its official murray wont trade up to get a higher pick. it was to late


Too late for what? They can do that the last minute.. if the price was right.. if not stay at 6 and take what you get..
Trade up with the 21st or not...

Save your 2nd rounders and hope for a couple of 'steal's.
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+1 #351 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-06-23 21:02
Any chance we send our 6th to the Blues in a deal for Oshie? I sure hope not.
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+1 #352 SensChirp 2011-06-23 21:08
He's currently ranked in an awkward spot (12 by TSN) but a guy the Sens apparently like is Mark Scheifele.
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0 #353 John Q. Spartan 2011-06-23 21:17
Now that's a coaching staff we can be proud of boys. Night and day from what we had before. Can't wait for the draft, it feels like Christmas Eve.
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+1 #354 John Q. Spartan 2011-06-23 21:25
I love T.J Oshie. Obviously wouldn't trade the 6th overall for him, but I'd consider everything else (including the 21st overall). He's pretty young, plays hard and has alot of talent. St.Louis and Ottawa have also obviously made deals in the recent past, there may be something to it.
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0 #355 SensChirp 2011-06-23 21:28
For what it's worth- I too have heard some of the buzz around Oshie. Was told that Ottawa has at least talked to STL about the possibility but definitely doesn't sound like anything is close.
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0 #356 Johne 2011-06-23 21:36
LOL

I'm not going to even mention where this came from:

On the Senators...

There is some big talk tonight that the Avalanche and Sens are talking about a deal that could see the teams swapping stars....Also, there is a rumor the Sharks may be looking at getting Spezza back with his former linemate Heatley.
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0 #357 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-06-23 21:38
Quoting Johne:
LOL

I'm not going to even mention where this came from:

On the Senators...

There is some big talk tonight that the Avalanche and Sens are talking about a deal that could see the teams swapping stars....Also, there is a rumor the Sharks may be looking at getting Spezza back with his former linemate Heatley.

Duchene for Spezza? LOL
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0 #358 Sandy 2011-06-23 21:44
Quoting Johne:
LOL

I'm not going to even mention where this came from:

On the Senators...

There is some big talk tonight that the Avalanche and Sens are talking about a deal that could see the teams swapping stars....Also, there is a rumor the Sharks may be looking at getting Spezza back with his former linemate Heatley.


Yeah I saw that... that guy is way out to lunch. He just has Spezza rumours after Spezza rumours. Why in the hell would Murray do any favours for San Jose after they screwed him in the Heatley deal.

As for the Avs & the Sens... I would assume that would be for pick switches.. not player switches.. what was EK thinking Stasny for Michalek? or maybe they want to give us Elliott back.
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0 #359 Sandy 2011-06-23 21:45
Quoting Sensational Sens Fan:
Quoting Johne:
LOL

I'm not going to even mention where this came from:

On the Senators...

There is some big talk tonight that the Avalanche and Sens are talking about a deal that could see the teams swapping stars....Also, there is a rumor the Sharks may be looking at getting Spezza back with his former linemate Heatley.

Duchene for Spezza? LOL



Now that's interesting... isn't it... but not a snowball's chance in hell that goes down.
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0 #360 Sandy 2011-06-23 21:47
@ Johne:

This one is even better:


On the Leafs...

I am told to look out early tomorrow morning....the Leafs may pull the trigger on one of the biggest deals the team has ever seen. "Bigger than Phaneuf. Way bigger." I was told. The names to look for Parise, Stamkos, and believe it or not... Eric Staal.



Now explain to me what the Leafs would have to offer to get Eric Staal out of Carolina or the other two for that matter.

Is that guy for real?
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+1 #361 Johne 2011-06-23 21:48
I'll trade Kuba to Colorado for Elliott and their #2
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0 #362 Johne 2011-06-23 21:53
ahahha, high five Chirp.
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0 #363 SIMMAN 2011-06-23 21:56
Quoting Johne:
I think RNH is a good hockey player, but do you really think the Oilers would be offering that 1st pick around if RNH was going to be a bona fide superstar?

I think Landeskog or Strome is the only way to go this draft. You get Spezza someone to feed the puck to in Landeskog or you get a human highlight reel in Strome.


ou always leave the first pick in play because someone may end up offering you a RIDICULOUS package for the pick.
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0 #364 FSJGuy 2011-06-23 21:57
Eklund must be getting marketing advice, lmao seriously, it would take the entire Leafs team, farm team, and draft picks for the next 10 years to get Stamkos(exagger ating slightly)
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0 #365 John Q. Spartan 2011-06-23 21:59
ha, oh boy...
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0 #366 SIMMAN 2011-06-23 22:06
There are signs that the Sens are not excited about Couturier as much as some feel.
1. Dorion has talked about compete level and character on more tha one occassion.
2. By all accounts C.'s compete level was not good to the point that the Sens Management and scouting staff walked out of the Guertin arena during a Drummonville playoff game with 10 minutes to go while they were fighting for their lives. C. had not played well and was not competing hard.
3. Dave Schreiber's comment to a blog contributor that he knew the Sens were not high on C.

They could end up drafting him but I would be somewhat surprised. Where there is smoke there usually is fire.
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0 #367 SensChirp 2011-06-23 22:12
Quoting SIMMAN:
There are signs that the Sens are not excited about Couturier as much as some feel.
1. Dorion has talked about compete level and character on more tha one occassion.
2. By all accounts C.'s compete level was not good to the point that the Sens Management and scouting staff walked out of the Guertin arena during a Drummonville playoff game with 10 minutes to go while they were fighting for their lives. C. had not played well and was not competing hard.
3. Dave Schreiber's comment to a blog contributor that he knew the Sens were not high on C.

They could end up drafting him but I would be somewhat surprised. Where there is smoke there usually is fire.

I too have mentioned that they may not be high on Couturier. A few times actually.
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0 #368 JackLaytonsMustache 2011-06-23 22:13
I think the Flyers got good return for both Carter and Richards. Its better to get rid of players to early then to late. They received 6 assets for 2 players, 4 of which (Vorecek, Schenn, Simmonds and 8th overall are going to be good NHLers. They also got rid of two really long contracts. That being said, they are taking a huge risk on Bryzgolov. That contract has buyout written all over it...
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+1 #369 John Q. Spartan 2011-06-23 22:17
I can't say I'd be totally disappointed with Couturier. But, if Landeskog/Huber deau are gone (highly likely), I think I'd be much happier with the offensive upside of a Ryan Strone or Mika Zibanjad.

Couturier's size and overall game is interesting, but I'm a little wary of the bust factor. Probably not a fair accessment, just what my gut is telling me.
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0 #370 jakester 2011-06-23 22:30
I've been thinking since the beginning that the SENS wanting to trade up is to pick HUBERDEAU and that's it - If they don't manage that it will be Strome or Zibanejad. Then they"ll try to move the 21st up + there will be a trade of a roster player or players for another first rounder. Oshie - lets not go crazy he's an alright player but not worth mortgaging the farm for.
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0 #371 MoeDozer 2011-06-24 03:14
Quoting New GM:
( Erik Karlsson"s brother )

i researched everywhere and i really dont think he is his brother, this is his brother http://www.eliteprospects. com/player.php?player=18131 pelle karlsson. however if you guys didnt know, there is another erik karlsson who also plays for frolunda he is draft eligible next year http://www.eliteprospects. com/player.php?player=33395 but if you go to eliteprospects. com and search for erik karlsson theres about 10 others born in the 90s..
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-2 #372 boom 2011-06-24 07:32
@Chirp,

I know that the Sens, apparently, scoffed at Edmonton's suggestion of including Karlsson in any trade for the number 1 pick, but do you think there's any chance Cowen could be in play?
I'm not saying that's it's a good idea, just a question...Otta wa is deep in D prospects...
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0 #373 Patrick1 2011-06-24 07:50
Could all of the Cameron bashing please stop. From BM - "I threw a bunch of names at (MacLean), but he picked the people," Murray said. "He had the opportunity to select the people that he wanted. Having played with Mark, that was a good one, and knowing Dave for a long time, when his name came up, he was very, very happy and willing to add him to the staff."
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0 #374 oakster15 2011-06-24 07:54
what do you guys think the asking price for a guy like Oshie would be? 2nd round pick +?
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0 #375 TKM18 2011-06-24 07:57
Quoting Patrick1:
Could all of the Cameron bashing please stop. From BM - "I threw a bunch of names at (MacLean), but he picked the people," Murray said. "He had the opportunity to select the people that he wanted. Having played with Mark, that was a good one, and knowing Dave for a long time, when his name came up, he was very, very happy and willing to add him to the staff."


Right, now if only Paul MacLean had been living in a bubble for the last several years and didn't know the relationship between Cameron and Melnyk. I'm not saying Melnyk called MacLean and told him to pick Cameron, but it's pretty obvious that a subtle hint of Murray throwing in Cameron's name was enough for MacLean to get the idea. At the end of the day I'm happy with MacLean as head coach, I'm just hoping having Cameron on there is not going to be a source of friction down the road when people view him as Melnyk's guy on the staff.
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0 #376 PraiseAlfie84 2011-06-24 08:17
Spezza should just murder Eklund. Ekulnd seems like he has a homoerotic crush on Spezza with the amount of bullshit trade rumours this guy makes up about him....
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0 #377 Patrick1 2011-06-24 08:18
@TKM18
Fair comment. I do think however that if MacLean didn't think it could work with Cameron he would have said so. The stache doesn't strike me as being timid. I'm an optimist and I think it will work - that's quite a set of assistants. Mark Reeds will be PM's go to guy given their lengthy relationship. He's also a proven winner and terrific coach. It will be hard to stay focussed today with trades and the draft tonight.
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0 #378 Johne 2011-06-24 08:23
If Oshie can be had for anything less than the #6 pick, it'd be well worth it. He's no superstar, but he is a legit top 6 forward that we need.
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0 #379 Johne 2011-06-24 08:30
I hope we see a domino effect of trades today from yesterday's fallout. Versteeg still might be on his way out of Philly and you know Hartnell is always in the rumor mill. With Weber, Parise, and Stamkos all still not inked, teams have to be calling nonstop.
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0 #380 TKM18 2011-06-24 08:31
@Patrick

I agree for the most part, I'm not saying MacLean hates the guy (because I have no idea), maybe it's just an appearance thing. It doesn't look the greatest to me that's all. I'm not trying to say Cameron is a bad coach, either. To me it looks like hiring the boss' nephew for that summer intern job. Maybe the nephew was the most qualified person, but it certainly looks like he was hired because of the connection, whether he's the most qualified or not. But you're right about MacLean, he doesn't seem to be the kind of person that would take shit, at the same time this is his first head coaching job and he might be more prone to go along with it for now at least. Either way, I'm very happy with the current coaching staff and think it's a huge improvement over what they had last season.
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0 #381 Senut 2011-06-24 08:34
Quoting oakster15:
what do you guys think the asking price for a guy like Oshie would be? 2nd round pick +?

I would guess it would somehow involve that plus something conditional for a signing. He would be our second line center and then Murray might want to try to grab a winger (aka Landeskog, or trade for a proven one).
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0 #382 Andrews Theory 2011-06-24 08:42
not a chance would they give up the 6th pick for oshie. I'd burn murray at the stake.

With that said, he's a kid, I'd love to see them add at a reasonable price.

When you look at what Chicago accepted for Ladd and Buf. I think the 21st overall or ideally a second with condition of an additional 3rd shoudl get it done.
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0 #383 Andrews Theory 2011-06-24 08:44
before everything went down with carter and richards, i thought versteeg might be the guy they moved but you gotta wonder if they'd hold on to him at this point.

he's another player i wouldn't be upset to see in ottawa on the second line.
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0 #384 Andrews Theory 2011-06-24 08:45
i guess versteeg is more ideally suited to third line duties though...
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+1 #385 RUSHRLZ 2011-06-24 08:50
Listening to the Tim Murray interview on the drive home yesterday I was very impressed. I was like F**K YEAH! We are in good hands people. Not afraid to make moves but not such an itchy trigger finger to make rash decisions either.

In the Murray's we trust!
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0 #386 RUSHRLZ 2011-06-24 08:53
Wow that moron Dwayne made about 20 trade predictions yesterday. With such volumes one of these days he will get lucky and get something right.

Oh and these Smyth to Calgary rumors? WTF, as if Ryan would ever go the the arch-nemesis like that! I would be really disappointed.
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0 #387 Ihatebettman 2011-06-24 09:00
Here's my take about Cameron; any coach that can bring their team to the finals must have some talent and can't be that bad of a coach. Regardless who hired him; I believe working with Maclean and Reed might be the experience that he needs to make that next step to become that elite assistant or head coach in the future. Similar to situation with Mike Babcock and Paul Maclean.
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0 #388 Sensty 2011-06-24 09:09
Quiet start to the day.....waiting for the first pin to drop!!!!
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0 #389 Kohlmanator 2011-06-24 09:11
I want to see Landeskog put on a Sens jersey tonight! B'Mur... Don't ruin my b-day.

As for Cameron's hiring, I have no issue with him being the coach, he is more than qualified and seems like a good person. The only issue surrounding this guy is how he was hired. If PM made the decision, great. If Melnyk stepped in - we have problems.
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