Reaction to the hiring of MacLean has been extremely favourable, both among fans of the club and in the media. MacLean is seen as a guy that has paid his dues as an Assistant and perfected his craft. By all account he was a guy that was ready to make the jump.
MacLean made it clear he believes the game is to be played fast and physical. Sounds like he wants to create a team that will attack but also play good defence. He also stressed the importance of communication, both with the organization and the players.
MacLean indicated that the team will play very similar to the Red Wings. Great news for the Sens and fans of this team because it seems clear that puck possession will be put in high priority.
As a fan, this was a great first impression with the new coach. He sounds like an extremely confident guy and a guy that knows what he wants. The resume speaks for itself and he seems to have the right approach to the game. I love the emphasis on communication with the players. That will be huge for this organization moving forward.
With the head coach search now wrapped up, the organization can shift their focus to the upcoming Entry Draft which is now just 10 days away. Beginning tomorrow, we'll take a look at some of the players the Sens could be targeting on draft day.
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We would all be bored stiff and unswayed, I imagine the players would of felt the same way.
Im with you, the stashe was famous in Winnipeg/Detroi t, now its gonna be famous in Ottawa!
Doesn't SensTV eventually put pressers up for future viewings?
I am very happy with the direction of our franchise ever since we conceded to a 'rebuild' not so long ago. And now we shift our fervid Sauronic Eye of excitement onto the entry draft.
DRAFT SENS! DRAFT!
Must be nice to live in a fantasy world...
"the Mo" might be misinterpreted as "homo".... just saying.
I'm tempted. I just don't understand where the enjoyment is in professional sports if you're always going to be negative about the team you support.
It's also nice to have season tickets to watch such an exciting up and coming team.
1) He's a Leaf spy sent here to troll
2) He wasn't loved by his parents enough as a child.
Is there a link where I can watch the press conference? I missed out, but really want to see it.
Im surprised that no one has picked up on PM being the "Teddy Roosevelt" of hockey. I like that alot better than comparing him to the guy on the diabetes commercials
Even better when sitting in a box!
I havent said one negative thing about the team so far, not my fault people are ignorant and need to be put in their place.
Do you really think Alfie will hoist the Cup in 2 years? answer me that...
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M@
However, I'm glad that Kovey is elsewhere.
I think the talent we have up front is lacking yes, but with Spezza, you know there will be production. And I'm not saying we will win the majority of our games 1-0, but I think Anderson can win alot of games that we've been unable to win in the past. Not to mention our leading scorer was Karlsson for most of the season, add Rundblad (I'm really believing that he can win the Calder if we can make room for him) into the mix and I think alot of people are underestimating this teams potential. I think the most pivotal piece in how successful this season is if Murray can sign a scoring LW for Spezza.
Skys the limit.
See Chirp, comments like this is what discredits your blog...Passer by's see these comments and then immediately turn away...Its ignorant.
Tell me John who will score goals, you do remember all of our great goal scorers of last year!
We had 1 player who scored 20 goals (21 actually)(Spezza).
Kovalev 14
Fisher 14
Kelly 12
All gone, rest is...
Foligno 14
Butler 10 (I do see Butler getting closer to 25, so that is a good thing)
Alfie 14
Michalek 18
So basically to get back to you, Spezza and Butler will be the only ones over 20+ goals this year.
But enough of the past... it is behind us.
Time to move forward with what appears to be THE coach the Sens need. The goaltender. The young guys coming in. The future in the draft.
Pick the right assistants.
Now a question. Do you think with this coaching hire.. it MAY attract free agents to Ottawa? Yeah the team is re-building..bu t they brought in a character coach probably known throughout the league by the players. Would be interesting indeed.
Strome and Grimaldi
So if we go by this saying, Islanders, Edmonton, Florida, Columbus also have a shot at winning, LMAO!!
Just stop posting now...thx!
There are just to many factors that need to be adressed. It's possible though.
Boston had 4 20+ goal scorers, with Lucic being the only one to hit 30.
So we sign Upshall or Leino, who would both easily hit 20 with Spezza feeding them the puck. You also have to figure Butler will hit the 20 mark playing with Spezza. Spezza should hit the 20 mark or close to it. I think Foligno is good for 20 if he'll stick around the net and I also think Karlsson could be good for 20. So even if we're shy by that free agent signing I think we will have goal scoring by committee, Michalek will sure as hell contribute unless hes out on LTIR.
A little positive thinking and dreaming a little never killed anyone.
Spezza CANT do it all, and there arent any good FA wingers out there to make a huge difference. Centres yes.
And like you mentioned Karlsson was out top scorer for a long time and that is with only Spezza out of the line up. That speaks volumes on where are forward top talent is at, its not good.
So no, we dont have a chance at the Cup and just like I predictec this team would blow hard last year (And I was correct) I dont see much changing, maybe a couple spots up to 9th, 10th in the East.
Your just going on a whim Johne, so many things have to happen in order for us to win a Cup in 2 years, let alone make the playoffs.
Your right, positive thinking and dreaming never killed anyone but it sure doesnt make you a credible person when it comes to blogs. Just sounds ignorant.
Spezza and Butler will hit 20+
Michalek, Alfie, Foligno, 15-19
The FA's you mentioned are not even part of our club and I dont see Murray getting them.
Note: I love how we can use PM for Paul MacLean instead of that no talent ass clown Pierre McGuire....
McGuire Should have got an interview
P.S. You will die!...someday.
Johne can be the hero....insert Miracle speech..haha
My approach is my team can win every night. I'd rather be disappointed we lost rather than doubt we can win. As long as they play hard, let the dust settle where it may.
Tookie, you're the guy they talk about when they say Sens fans have no heart! and you're a dying breed!
Where was the "JK" after that? You can't be serious...I would burn down SBP before letting Pierre "IMAMONSTREZ" McGuire run my beloved Sens!
However, I think all of us (including Tookie) should wait to pass judgement on the team until the end of training camp, because we don't know what they'll look like come October.
I still think there is a top player to be added, and who knows what happens at the draft.
All that said, I think we can all agree that the right steps have been taken to this point. Murray has done a masterful job of turning his deadline deals into solid building blocks, the Anderson trade was highway robbery, and the hiring of MacLean today was the best we could all hope for.
So, let's be happy today, but reserve our final judgement on the team until opening night rolls around and we see what we've got.
Tookie, are you ok with that?
Sure am, all I was doing was re-adjusting the perspective of fellow Sens fans who mentioned we could win the Cup next year or in 2 years. Very irrational.
For good drama to occur you always need a villain ... and Tookie is the evil to SensChirp being the good!
Brilliant move Chirp, brilliant move.
The person they draft 1st won't be ready to make a huge impact, nor should the team be ready to expect that. It wouldn't be in anyone's best interest. The UFA market is pretty thin. I don't expect the opening day roster to change drastically from what it is now.
Hahaha ya I was obviously kidding.
I'd miss him too much BETWEEN the benches anyways.... JK
Dear God help him...
Thank you!
CaMo, Bradweiser, Johne, please learn from this!
Hahah Hey now, I didnt say I thought the sens were gunna win next year. I'm the guy who thinks you're 17.
The McGuire comment was a joke and you taking that seriously shows that you don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt.
Detroit must be a frothy place with all that brewing, I hope the SENS can brew some winners too!! LOL
Speaking of brews, its about time for one!
Tookie, How exactly do positive comments, hopes, dreams and confidence in your team make this a crappy blog?
You go start a blog, but you can only have negative, argumentative, angry little trolls on it and we will see who has more followers. I think the majority would pass on reading your blog unless of course you were looking to attract Leafs fans..... and what does that tell you.
Your negative dribble is really starting to wear out it's welcome here in case you haven't noticed.
You must have a pretty shitty life to be that negative about everything, I feel sorry for you. But not sorry enough to want to put up with your disrespectful, negative comments.
Just do us all a favor and go away.
Agreed, there is still work to be done, but they have all summer to do a big chunk of that work. I think they'll push for a playoff spot next year. My 2 cents, for what it's worth.
Never said this was a crappy blog, I said rose coloured fans give this blog a bad name. Its one thing to post fantasy trades and standings but to actually believe it is another.
I wonder if by the year 2112 if people on the Internet will finally have learned to relax a little, ignore people who piss them off and not to encourage said shit disturbers.
Much like how Pierre would not be interested in a coaching position, neither is Tookie interested in being the most popular person here.
And for what it's worth, I think next year we have a decent shot at being in the playoffs, but it'd take a miracle to be an actual contender the next two seasons.
Swearing gets you no where kiddo.
He is the Paulrus
I would like to point out that it was Russell, the host of sens underground that came up with that.
Tookie, you are entitled to your opinion but the constant repeat of the same negative comment is what drives me nuts. Say your piece and move on. I basically have started tuning you out.
I think there's a good chance they push for a spot too, with the parity in the east teams will move up and down quite a bit next year. I'm hoping they push for a spot, I'm just not setting myself up to expect it, that's all. A lot of the changes that came in at the end of last season were great, I just don't know if they are sustainable. It reminds me of when they hired Clouston, people said yeah look at his record, extrapolate it over 82 games and they are a great team. It doesn't always work out that way though and I expect the same for Anderson. Also, other teams around the Sens will be improved over last year, so it's all relative. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing this team develop over the next few seasons.
Ust when I think that(perhaps) people should go a bit easier on you, I see that you keep on bringing up the fact that you were right about the Sens sucking last year, and you were one of the only ones who predicted that they would miss the playoffs...
Remember, even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Senators GM Bryan Murray interviewed a total of seven candidates before settling on Paul MacLean as his head coach. via twitter
So its ok to continue then? Perfect!
Lets just say I've had enough of the "we will win the Cup" or "This team will rock" comments aswell. I dont like ignorant posters, post smart things and I wont hound you!
As you pointed out, I think the key here are 'expectations'. No one should expect them to be a championship contender within 2 years, because they've done nothing to this point to warrant that expectation.
If your expectations are that they will be a better team next year that works hard every night and wins more games than they did under Clouston, then I think that's reasonable.
Gotta walk before you run. I don't think they're championship material yet, but I do think they'll be in the playoff mix come next April. So there ya go.
Maybe Tookie should raise his standards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rroTt8nQO1w
Like the signing...not much sense saying anything else in regards to the team until the draft/on ice workouts start.
The problem some have with seeing that is we have not seen the team we are going to have on the ice next year.
Fast fun to watch young out for something to prove puck possesion hockey, great PP coach, great goalie.
Spezza Butler healthy Alfie Karlsson Rundblad Cowan Anderson Lehner Greening Condra ZSmith Silverburg
So, we'll see you back here in September then?
Have a lovely summer!
Look dude, I am not going to give you this whole "everyone has a right to their opinion" crap...
Just relax and stop calling people out for their opinions. No one complains about the comments other than you. The whole point about following professional sports is hopes and dreams; it's entertainment. There is a reason we don't all dress a like and drive the same car... we are different.
Every Friday when I buy my Lotto MAX ticket, I look at the jackpot and just "imagine the possibilites".. . Will I ever win? Realistically not; but when there is a chance of something great happening, it's human nature to wish for it.
As they say...Reach for the stars - maybe one day you'll get to the moon.
Lets just say I've had enough of the "we will win the Cup" or "This team will rock" comments aswell. I dont like ignorant posters, post smart things and I wont hound you!"
You can read every post I have ever commented on and not one of them says "We will win the cup" or "this team will rock". I dont even think the Sens will make the playoffs next year but am enjoying the process of a rebuild. As I have stated to you in other postings such as Dont get Jeff Carter because it will cost to much and stick with rebuilding our youth. I love the fact that your "sources" as I have posted internet articles from fantasy sites that speculate on things that your "sources" say. You never seem to comment on that but rather move on and change the tempo of the blog.
My proposal to chirp is that he lets you blog in Yosts space but you are not allowed to comment on any other posts.
Bm is not done, FA or trades for top 6 talent and Landeskog, Strome or others in the draft yet to come.
BM has made great moves so far, no reason to think that will stop.
Next year is looking great so far so hard not to be positive.
If he acts like a jackass then just ignore it, it's pretty simple..
I feel like I'm in an elementary school yard...
Even the upgrade in goaltending should get you more than with Elliott and the bad goals last year.
Not saying Anderson has to do it all himself... but we all have to agree he is better than Elliott/Leclaire.
We got a sample of what the young guys could do down the stretch.. Yes the season was lost and they had no pressure. But the teams they were playing like Mtl, Tampa who were fighting for playoff spots and positioning did.
They were still NHL games in which these guys got some experience.
I would go with what they have this year. In 2012 the new CBA will change -- quite a few teams will be in cap hell. That is when Murray swoops in to get that good young top 6 forward and add that to the mix.
He's looking for a rise out of everyone. Just ignore him.
Can't wait for the draft and looking forward to reading what you've got on our potential picks, Chirp.
Have to keep things under wraps a little bit. All this back and forth is getting boring.
Still a lot of work and fun to come this off season, but I agree with the majority that we will be a much improved team next year. I for one am willing to predict we will be fighting for a playoff spot this coming year ... and getting to the playoffs then allows us a 1 in 16 shot, which I'll take any and every year we can. The true start to a dynasty we're trying to build towards is probably still at least 3 years away, but keeps looking better with every move BM has been making the last 6 months.
Ok, I'll bite - what do you think Brian Murray will do on draft day with regards to: moving up, who they really want, etc.?
I think he's going to sit tight, and hope they get either one of Huberdeau, Zibahejad, or Landeskog. I'd be happy with any of them.
My only concern is that 1-5 don't pick a D-man and we are forced into picking the BPA which is Hamilton or Larsson. We need fire power up front!!!
First order of business, I just want to say
This team will rock and we will win the cup.
*Facepalm*
That's what I'm worried about too. I'm hoping that, at least, one of the teams ahead of us really need a D. You have to think that one of the teams will. Even Ryan Murply could slide into the top 5 - he's rated 8th, but I have heard he may be the most skilled player in the draft...
I agree with you, never anywhere did I say we wouldnt win more games, I mean hell, finishing in 12th in the East is an improvement!
Here is what I think, Anderson will win us a few more games, Phillips, Gonchar, Kuba, Karlsson wont be much better than last year, nothing indicates they would, same old soft defence, they will get pushed around like the ragdolls they are. Only 1 of Cowen or Rundblad will make the team, I think its Rundblad and he will do well, no where near the Calder tho.
At forward, unless we get Carter, Oshie, Leino or somebody that can potentially score 30+ goals. Im afraid we wont score enough to compete with the better teams.
Im not going to be surprised if we dont make the playoffs and I will be surprised if we pass round 1. In this era, its all about scoring and being physical, just ask the Sedins and their finess game...
But it's not the worst thing in the world if it happens. I would hope that if we are "forced" into Larsson, Murphy or Hamilton then somebody below us is going to want to jump into that spot and offer us something good. Or we just take one of them then work the trade market after the draft.
We might be able to turn that scenario into a prospect with a years lead on the rest - like we did with Rundblad. Whether or not that prospect projects to be as good as a Strome or Couturier who are the likliest to be available at 6 is kind of a crap shoot.
Colordao will select either Huberdeau or Landeskog. They will not pass up the chance to get that top line player with stastny and Duchene. With the trade for E. Johnson they wont take a D at the draft.
Florida will select, depending on Col, Landeskog or Huberdeau. Florida are big on Landeskog, and already play a gritty type game, perfect for Lando.
New Jersey will select either D. Hamilton or Larsson. They are pretty much set on FW, they dont miss their chance with Hamilton.
Islanders select Larsson or Hamilton, depending on NJ. Pretty good crop of FW, lacking much D, Larsson or Hamilton would surely help immediately.
Ottawa selects Zibanejad or Couturier. Although need a winger for Spezza, you cant go wrong in building down the middle. Couturier is more ready now but Zibby has much more raw talent, tough choice.
Hey Leafer, i dont think we can win a cup in 2 years. But in 2-3 years, we are be a contender. You losers still wont be! Between your loud mouth fraud of a gm and horrible coach. Enjoy more losing. We are gonna win.
I think we are definitely going to see a renewed rivalry between the Leafs and the Sens over the next few seasons, as much as I hate those bastards I think they are close to making the playoffs. Maybe not next year though ;)
Next order of business is adding smiley's as some just do not know how to gauge sarcasm ;-P
In a less sarcastic tone
I think this team will be more competitive next season and I am very excited for it.
Of course I want them to be contenders but the stars would have to align just right for that too happen.
I think Nicky Figgs will be much better next season and pot us 20. I am excited to see what he brings. MM if he stays healthy will pot us another 20-25. Alfie, depending on recovery will pot 20 and spezz with 25.
I think Regin will play better but not so sure he will be the top 6 we were hoping after the one playoffs but he may get us 10-15 along with Condra and greening on our 3rd and fourth lines so much better depth.
Anderson will steal us some games but I am a little nervous about our defense.
Phillips will be better but needs to be paired with the right guy (More than likely Lee unless he is shipped out to make room for one of the rookies). Kuba will be better but not a top 2 pairing. Gonchar will be better but not to the level at which he played in Pitts unfortunately
Carks will be shipped out
It will be an exiting defense to watch with Runblad but unless he steps in as a star or if Phillips, Gonch, and Kuba can really up their game from last season I think they will get into a little trouble
all in all, contenders, no but they will be much more exciting and I think they will make the playoffs
Do we have to? No. We are just getting started.
We have parted with cancers and dead weight and salary cap.
Drafted well 4 years prior to starting this transition and will keep drafting well, and this year we will have a great draft. We have some great prospects on their way up who just experienced winning a championship. We have a rock solid goalie in MR. ANDERSON. We have a great hockey mind behind the bench who knows how to win.
Its just a matter of how soon all the pieces fit.
We are just getting started.
Colordao will select either Huberdeau or Landeskog. They will not pass up the chance to get that top line player with stastny and Duchene. With the trade for E. Johnson they wont take a D at the draft.
Florida will select, depending on Col, Landeskog or Huberdeau. Florida are big on Landeskog, and already play a gritty type game, perfect for Lando.
New Jersey will select either D. Hamilton or Larsson. They are pretty much set on FW, they dont miss their chance with Hamilton.
Islanders select Larsson or Hamilton, depending on NJ. Pretty good crop of FW, lacking much D, Larsson or Hamilton would surely help immediately.
Ottawa selects Zibanejad or Couturier. Although need a winger for Spezza, you cant go wrong in building down the middle. Couturier is more ready now but Zibby has much more raw talent, tough choice.
Tookie great analogy. I agree 100%
Im with you, I hate the Leafs but if SENS fans think we will be better after coming off a terrible year with not much added to our roster, then the same logic can be used for the Leafs and they had a great year, almost made the playoffs with a bunch of nobodies. Their players overachieved, (4, count them, 4 players at 30 goals!) as ours underachieved (1 at 21 goals). Can their 4 guys score 30 goals again, why not, its like saying Foligno, Alfie, Michalek, Butler can score 20.
I hope the tables are turned for next year.
Hero
I agree about Rundblad, but not about Cowen. He will make the team I'm thinking right out of the gate. He had a great playoffs with Bingo (even fro the few games he played) and improved a lot over the year. Lee will be traded or up and down as the 7th Dman. or he will stay on and we'll buy out Kuba
Those FW prospect, none of them are projected top 6 talent...none. Apart from Lando and maybe Couturier/Zibby from this years draft, we dont have top 6 talent in the system.
Can players turn inmto top 6 talent, sure they can, do I see any of them doing it....maybe Silfverberg, he reminds me of Zetterberg...in fact so does Zibby!
Point is your "We have great prospects coming up" is false.
I hope you are right and if so and Lee is shipped out then I think Cowen gets paired with Phillips for a good chunk of the season. Hope he is a stud and there is no doubt about him after training camp.
I just think as much as he has improved, he still has a lot to learn and will be victimized by some of the better forwards in the league. All a matter of time though as I think he will be a stud D in this league. His learning curve will just be a little longer than we would like is all
Phillips
Gonchar
Kuba
Karlsson
Rundblad
Lee
Carkner
No room for Cowen and I dont think Melnyk will buyout Kuba, why would he, he's trying to save money, not spend it. And nobody will take Kuba off our hands. We can try trading Lee or Carkner but doubt teams would want them. Lee actually played alot better and I wouldnt trade him, leave him in instead of Cowen who has suffered a concussion most recently. Carkner/Rundbla d are the only ones that add toughness/physi cality to that group, take it away and its gonna be a long season on D.
So, for toughness, you're relying on a 6'2" Swede rather than a 6'5" Canadian?
Not saying you're wrong that Rundblad makes the team ahead of Cowen, but it won't have anything to do with toughness.
I think they will find a way to have them both on the team.
And I do hear what you are saying. Lee was a lot better but his stock would not have risen enough in such a short time frame for us to warrant a trade so it may be best to keep him around.
I just think Murray may try to force room for both Cowen and Rundblad and that means one of Lee or Carks may get shipped out
if that happens, hope Cowen can add a more physical element to his game as the Sens will need it desperately.
As exciting as this depth and these prospects are, I think our defense may be a little suspect. Unless the vets can pull off a miracle after their last season
Have you even watched Cowen play this year or even passed years, he isnt very physical, he's more of a positional stick play/angle you off type of defenseman. He doesnt hit as much as he should, probably cuz he's afraid of missing and not being able to catch up. (his skating still needs much work) thats why I think he stays in Bingo.
I really hope BM finds a way to move Kuba this offseason, so that the argument is who out of Cowen, Rundblad, Lee, Gryba, maybe Benoit and Weircioch will be joining Gonchar, Phillips, Karlsson and Carkner (who may be 7th D next year).
I'd personally rather see Lee return in a defensive 6th D role again, then have Kuba return.
You're right, he doesn't hit as much as you would think, and probably for the reason you mention. I just think he's more physical than Rundblad. We will see, I guess.
I'd just like to see them both here, because that would likely mean we were able to ditch Kuba...addition through subtraction, I guess...
Im guessing you havent watch the human highlight reel that is Rundblad on the SC video section, thats hitting!! and some of them are even vicious! I have not seen Cowen hit or play offensively as well as Rundblad. IMO Rundblad is years ahead of Cowen, literally and figuretively.
Rundblad on the other hand, is more ready, because he`s been playing with men for the past 3 years (since the age of 17), and has put on a clinic in the SEL.
Kind of an enigma because Cowen is more of a man, physically.
Still would like to see room for Cowen sometime in the season to play in the NHL, though.
Tookie`s perfectly legitimate here.
Regardless, I`d like to see both of em play. But I think Rundblad has an edge.
Phillips
Gonchar
Karlsson
Rundblad
Carkner
Cowen
This will be our D lineup I think. With Kuba getting thrown away on draft day. And lee as a 7th.
Gonna be hard to "throw away" Kuba, I doubt there will be any team willing to take his contract.
Yes, he seamlessly stepped into the minors from the minors. Rundblad is playing in a PRO league! SEL > AHL I'm afraid....
Really, you're going to compare the OHL to the AHL? I'm not saying the SEL isn't a great league, it is definitely top 3-5, but you can't ignore that the AHL >>> OHL. As I said, I think both will be on the team in the fall.
You said he went from minors to minors, it came across as if you thought the jump from OHL to AHL was not significant.
As an FYI - The American Hockey League (AHL) is a 30-team PROFESSIONAL ice hockey league based in the United States and Canada that serves as the primary developmental circuit for the National Hockey League (NHL).
It is also a PRO league and I have heard players say it is the toughest league to play in after the NHL. Not saying I agree, just that the argument is not settled.
I say both will be in the O-Sens lineup. RE-BUILD so go with youth.
Maybe Gonchar wants out. He probably came to Ottawa thinking they were a playoff team -- not a re-building one. Do you really think he wants to finish the next 2 seasons in a re-building situation?
Question is who would you send him to?
As for Kuba IF the Sens can trade him by taking a larger salary dump at forward would you do it?
In the playoffs in the East... Boston, Philly, Pitts, Wash, Tampa, most likely Mtl. Leaves Carolina (who knows bad one year good the next), Winnipeg, Laffs, Ottawa... out Florida. The Islanders have some good young players and played good hockey down the stretch... but really the playoffs for them... NO.
IF the Sens have a chance.. it will be a fight for the one only playoff spot.
Found it nvm.
It's a minor league, that's why they call it the minors. I'm not having this debate again, it was like an entire day of posting about which is better. Your opinion is the AHL, I respect that, but I feel like there are way more talented players in the SEL. The AHL is a necessary stepping stone for the NHL, true, but it doesn't have close to the amount of talent the SEL/KHL has.
Did you read what I wrote, I straight up said that is not my opinion. You're arguing with something I never said and over a situation where we both think the player will be on the Sens next year. Not sure what your prob is man, I guess u just see my name and need to argue.
he's not playing in the ahl at all. it's already been confirmed. cowen might be different depending on how many deals bm is able to make.
The kid`s ready and can step in and play right now. (Pierre Dorion).
My money is on a trade up to 1st using our 21st and 2 2nd round picks. And then a trade up to third using our 6th, a 3rd and a 4th.
We will pick huberdeau first (strategically) RHN will go 2nd, leaving us with Landeskog at 3rd.. everybody is happy :)
how is it confirmed? news to me
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rundblad i see him joining us just like karlsson, plays a good chunk of games in the NHL, then gets sent down to bingo to fix some small details, comes back 10 games later and never looks back.
I find it hard to believe either of these guys starts the year in the AHL. The organization is extremely high on both of them.
come on Marco !
you delete comments but never addressed it w/me .... if tookie last year was an ass , and today we are getting a a new coach and he's at it again about us not making playoffs for a few years still , and I saw him going to the same place as last year , and wondered if I wanted to listen to him again .. and his NEGATIVE COMMENTS .
so , beats me why you protecting him ....
I will always be a fan of Ottawa , even if I moved to montreal a la merde d'equipe de hockey , sooooooooo.... ur site was fun , but some guys need to be told off, as tookie the arrogant .
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I'm giving them three years. I recognize that we will probably not make the playoffs next season, although it is a long season and you never know. However, Ottawa is a smaller (albeit voracious) hockey market, and I fear some fans patience will wear thin, i asked to stick it out for too long. With their late-season success, the maturing of Spezza, a desire to win it for Alfie, a fantastic goalie, and another (possibly better) one in the AHL, the head coach many of us wanted, and a fully-stocked cupboard down in Bingo, I think we already possess the tools to get us there. Throw in a couple years’ worth of good drafting, and we should be all set to get back into the playoffs.
I want them in it next year, I’ll accept two years, but if they’re still an also-ran by year 3, I’ll be more than a little upset with the wasted opportunities.
Sounds like gonchar is a lock going forward, PM included gonchar as one of the core players, I would think PM would be let in on the plan at this point but who knows.
So I think your list is on the money, I like Lee and think he is a great D-guy but PM said fast and tough was what he was looking for so Carkner gets the nod there at least on the tough part. I guess they both could be replaced if another team was interested.
I just hope some fans temper their expectations. This team is re-building.. and if they don't get that top 6 player they need then it is a good possibility this team will not make the playoffs next season.
There will be good nights... there will be bad nights. What I want this team to do is compete every night and give themselves a chance to win.
The young guys are great to watch. Anderson had a good run here the end of the year.
The pieces are coming into place.. but it may take 2 yrs or so... but they will get there.
1)20th Anniversary for the Ottawa Senators
2)New 3rd Jersey
3)Round One 6th & 21st Pick not to mention 10 more!
4)All-Star Game
5)New Head Coach Paul MacLean
6)Binghamton Senators Hungry for More! (Calder Cup)
7)Tookie Gets Banned From Senschirp
8)New Defense and offense show cases
9)Last Year on Kuba and Buy Outs
10)20 Years of dedicated fans still proving that Ottawa fans don't give up on there team
Things I'd like to see Murray accomplish:
*Buyout/trade Filip Kuba
*Not rush our top draft pick into the lineup
*Sign/trade for a top 6 Center and/or Winger for Spezza
I feel like if these things are met, we can make the playoffs.
Still hoping for Jeff Carter tbh
Spezza, Michalek, Butler, and Alfie are really all of the prospective scorers. Alfie and Butler are *iffy's*.
Murray's one trade/sign away from making this team good.
I really hope he does it.
agreed
But I'm counting on Murray to add that player, he has done everything exactly right so far.
like many other of you chirpers, i really hope we sign another top 6 forward although i think if the forward is not one of leino, oshie or carter(being optimistic won't kill anyone, maybe tookie), if we are signing any forward that isnt a proven top 6 and is under the age of 28(since leino is turning 28), we should not sign anyone until next seasons, although i can think of a few other names that can fit, i.e wolski, jussi jokinen, andrew ladd?(not sure if he is still an RFA), brooks laich etc.
some names on that list worth trading for.
Would also really like to see Jussi Jokinen. He would be perfect in our top 6.
I really hope Murray is at least considering JC. Our core forwards would be set for the next 5 years at the very least.
*No Buyouts/and trade Filip Kuba and maybe Brian Lee or Matt Carkner
- Filip Kuba so David Rundblad will fit perfectly into his spot.
-Brian Lee I think he can draw a good return because I think Jared Cowen would be better for the team. possibly having Lee as a 7th.
-Matt Carkner does provide toughness and a hard shot but again with the logjam I think Cowen can provide more then he can.
*Sign Free Agents Simon Gagne, Chris Osgood, Raffi Torres,
-Simon Gagne for some Veteran Leadership
-Chris Osgood so Craig Anderson can get some last minute tuning.
-Raffi Torres to provide more Toughness and Depth.
*Sign a Top 6 Left Winger
What do you guys think of this?
Greening-Spezza-Butler
Gagne-Regin-Alfredsson
Foligno-Smith-Michalek
Torres-Winchester-Neil
-DaCosta
Phillips-Cowen
Rundblad-Karlsson
Weiroich-Gonchar
-Lee
Anderson
Osgood
Keep in mind that the compensation for RFA's are high.
http://senshot.com/2011/06/12/are-there-any-rfas-worth-an-offer-sheet/
This is what you would have to offer to take an RFA from a team.
Some players are absolutely worth it, though.
Only SIX RFA offer sheet trades have taken place since the lockout.
thats not too bad, although our top line is really ugly im sorry, greening is NOT a top line player, he is a 3rd line player that will get some top 6 ice time. however i do like that 2nd line and the 4th line, man i would not want to be on the ice vs neil and torres add carkner on D and thats just pure toughness.
i do disagree on defence, i think its a bad idea to have karlsson and rundblad together, there is NO defence there, only offence. bad idea. rundblad needs either carkner or phillips for the defencive help. and karlsson will take the other, i think brain lee would be a nice fit with rundblad
Alfie-Spezz-Butler
Michalek-Regin-Peterrsen---Landeskog
Foligno-DaCosta-Greening
Condra-Smith-Neil
Winchester
That's without a trade or Ufa + not slotting in one of our picks(hoping) -So we can improve on this(probably forgot someone). All in all this team will be able to skate.
With Rundblad and Karlsson bringing the puck up transition game will be wicked. Greening and Condra showed they'll skate the 200ft to work in both zones.
Go Sens Go.
Simon Gagne is too old and injury prone. He is a very good player.
Murray wants to bring in someone under the age of 30. Not sure if that applies to goaltending or not.
Patrick Weircoch is not NHL ready yet...
Raffi Torres... no thanks. The Sens have enough players to fill the 3rd & 4th lines (mostly the young players) so he would only take up a spot.
Murray did not trade Fisher, Kelly, Ruutu, Kovalev to bring in FA's to replace them. One top 6 forward should suffice.. but I prefer he wait until 2012 when better UFA's available... or more teams in cap hell when the new CBA comes in stopping ways to circumvent the cap with these long ridiculous contracts. That's when some good teams... are going to be in trouble.
Don't care if we make the 8th seed and play Boston in the first round.
I'd cheer my ass off every game holding my breath.
I noticed the comment about the teamm 1200 iPhone app. Looked for it but could not find any. Any help to find this app would be awesome.
Cheers to the STACHE!
Like someone said earlier, we don't know what this team will look like going into training camp. If there aren't a couple significant additions over the summer and we go into training camp with pretty much what we have now, it would take a miracle to make the playoffs.
We have a gaping hole at 2 line c that noone on the team can fill. Maybe da costa but he'd have to row into it. We NEED a first line winger for Spezza and there isn't one good enough in the FA market.
It's not that differing viewpoints and frank discussion are actively discouraged, it's that one such person has as much tact as rabid badger in an SS uniform. Naturally, this is the reason people are piling in on him- it has nothing to do with his statements. If he learned to discuss his points by reducing the provocative "drink battery acid" comments, he would be well received.
The good news is we are a rebuilding franchise. We can all be patient because we will be a GREAT team soon enough. We just hired the perfect coach to fit the franchise (in my opinion anyway), we have a boatload of draft picks which I have full confidence in Murray to use extremely well. This is going to be a really exciting year for Sens fans and I'm really excited to see how the team grows together.
Go sens go, and Murray, work some magic at the draft will ya?
I'm hoping Ottawa doesn't sign that top 6 forward BM was talking about, and he just stays the course, and gives one of: Foligno/Regin/G reening/Condra a top 6 role, dependent on who earns it night in night out. Give these kids a shot in the NHL to learn and grow, if they win some games great, if they come last but try hard, it may be the best thing for them.
So what we look to next is the available C, and while it is fun to compare the few prospects, it is safe to say it would be a C. One of Strome, Couturier, Zib. This is great, while we may struggle this year with not a very good top 6 and ultimately 2C, we have our guy for the future now picked and in the system, whoever it may be.
Mix this in with a solid prospect pool, maybe a surprise or two of late bloomers, maybe Da Costa developing etc. they should have a really good squad soon enough.
I think IF they bottom out this year (which I don't think they will be able to, but maybe with no additional UFA's bottom 5 is possible) and they can trade up for Yakupov or someone on that wing who is elite talent, then Ottawa could be scratching into the playoffs in 2 years, winning a round or two in 3, and being a contender in 4. I think that is realistic, and also the best possible scenario for the sens long term, because after those 3 years, you have a fantastic base of elite talent that can keep you contenders for a long time.
Look for CHUM radio
Don't become Canucks fan's, the worst fans in the NHL by FAR. I would rather be known as a Leafs fan than a Canucks fan, you people out east have ZERO idea how clueless 99% of them are.
Agreed. Yesterday was a little out of hand. Tookie may not agree with everyone on here but for the most part, he backs up his opinions and is more than willing to debate with others. Nothing wrong with that.
Starting now there will be a crackdown of sorts on the back and forth bickering. I know it's a long off season but let's start talking hockey, folks.
Murry, Mclean, Melnyk have zero interest in what you propose.
They want to put together a phenominal team and have a chance to compete now.
BM is geting it done, Anderson Mclean and we will move up and get whoever they want to fill the pieces.
We will get a top six player or two via draft, trade, FA
They are building the team to cup contend and we will have depth in Bingo for injuries.
Book it as you guys say.
Have some faith in BM
If a person thinks he can't do it is a pessimist.
If a person thinks he can do it is an optimist.
clearly if you have any faith at all in BM the optimist view is the closest to being a realist.
How long the players need to develop is an unknown but the pieces to get it done will be on the ice for training camp.
He almost always disagrees with me, but, I can see that he is well informed, and his opinions are usually well thought out and expressed. He does tend to be somewjhat negative, but I think that's partly in response to the "rose colored glasses" crowd. (which can get old and annoying, by the way)
I have taken some shots at Tookie lately, but the fact is taht I look forward to his comments.
I do apologize for taking things too far sometimes, I know you work hard in trying to bring us news and updates on the Sens and during the off season it must be tough!
As for taking shots at me, im thick skinned and it dont bother me one bit, most are warranted, and some arent but still, I agree for the integrity of the site it must be reduced :)
As for the role of the villain, haha, I like that, I'll try not to piss off too many people at once and keep things civil.....for now.
Mwwuuuahahahaha!
Now back to hockey talk!
I dislike the Canucks for their diving antics, its just dishonorable and as a hockey player myself its just something I was told NEVER to do!
So obviously Im cheering for Boston, gotta love the Bruins and their physical play. I also like the Bruin cuz of so many Hull Olympiques ties. Watched them alot back in the day and it just brings back good memories!!
I say Bruins 3-2 OT!!! yes!
1. Edmonton Oilers - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche - Gabriel Landeskog
3. Florida Panthers - Jonathan Huberdeau
4. New Jersey Devils - Adam Larsson
5. New York Islanders - Sean Couturier
Bryan Murray up to bat. What does he do?
Wouldn't you guys want the Sens to be the ones to break to Canadian Stanley Cup drought?
Sure, its gonna be tough as I see the Canucks years ahead of us in terms of talent and compete level, as much as they dive they will be a force in the West for a long time!
I also took the Bruins to win...
Pick Strome.
I've been checking multiple prospects sites and mock drafts and everyone has Zibanejad (or Couturier) going before Strome at the 6 spot. I know Murray has had his eyes on Strome for a while, but I am just wondering how Mika has slowly crept up as of late. Did he really impress at the combine? Couturier sounds a lot like Spezza to me in that he sees the ice really well, is a good 2-way player, but could improve his skating. Spezza made "strides in his strides" over the last offseason and it has further improved his game.
I don`t think the Islanders grab Couturier. I think they go with Hamilton, leaving Couturier for us. As much as I love the highlight reel footage of Strome, Couturier is NHL ready and will step right in to the line up.
PREDICTION 2: ANDREWS THEORY WINS SENS CHIRP HOCKEY POOL!
I predicted the final last summer.
I can't cheer for the Nucks, how can you respect a team full of divers? They don't deserve the glory of a cup.
How can you not cheer for Thomas after he leveled one of the Sedins trying to dangle in his crease...LMAO
Krejci was the best kept secret in the NHL until these playoffs....
I'm as big a fan as they come and I understand having a positive attitude etc. the danger is in setting peoples expectations too high and then they start getting down on the team.
As fans we should want them to win every game but it's a slippery slope to expecting them to win. Patience is going to be key.
Could they be the next Cinderella story? maybe but if they do have some success next year I think we'll see a similar path to what happened with Colorado. They overachieved and then bottomed out.
But first I think we can all agree that Murray is a B.A.P. (Best available player) type gm at the draft. For instance, Cowen over MPS. He`s a B.A.P. gm to the point where he trades his 1st round pick for a prospect if he feels the prospect is the B.A.P. (The Rundblad trade).
So here's my question:
If it comes down to a choice between Couturier, Strome, Zibanejad or Hamilton, do you think the B.A.P. could be found on another team such as Carter, Oshie? A lot of people put a lot of hype on draft picks, but nothing is garantied. Murray doesn`t want to screw up this rebuild, so I have a feeling he might opt for the SAFE choice.
After all, the last few 6th selections were :
Michalek
Montoya
Brule
Brassard
Gagner
Filatov
6th pick doesn't feel like a SAFE choice. I`m sure there`s another B.A.P. to be had somewhere in the NHL for the right price.
This draft is so deep, I don't think you can really mess up the 6th selection here unless Strome and Landeskog are both off the board by then and if thats the case, that means someone like Larsson or Hamilton is sliding, who should be gone by #6.
He almost always disagrees with me, but, I can see that he is well informed, and his opinions are usually well thought out and expressed. He does tend to be somewjhat negative, but I think that's partly in response to the "rose colored glasses" crowd.
I have always said that Tookie or Tookie 19, has been a very negative poster. He does at times make a lot of sense.
However, if you post a strong rebutal, he simply ignores it, by saying nothing.
I do agree that we want him kicked off, but after over quite
a long time, he is still very active in his comments.
Also think that we will not make the playoffs next season,
but will in 2 years and after.
Haha, you hate it dont you, I get all the attention and you get nothing!
Just kidding, like PA84 said, lets keep the talks about the draft and the endless possibilities!
P.S. You can say my name a few more time it wouldnt hurt!
Colordao ....Florida will select, depending on Col, Landeskog or Huberdeau. Florida are big on Landeskog, and already play a gritty type game, perfect for Lando.
New Jersey will select either D. Hamilton or Larsson. They are pretty much set on FW, they dont miss their chance with Hamilton.
Islanders select Larsson or Hamilton, depending on NJ. Pretty good crop of FW, lacking much D, Larsson or Hamilton would surely help immediately.
Ottawa selects Zibanejad or Couturier. Although need a winger for Spezza, you cant go wrong in building down the middle. Couturier is more ready now but Zibby has much more raw talent, tough choice.
Like you breakdown, but I really like Strome too
I think if Couturier is left at 6 we take him, he's still top 3 in my list, and I agree with others that have predicted he could transition directly to the nhl next year. If he is not still available, I still think a Zibenajad, Strome or Hamilton is still very much worth taking at 6th.
I really feel like the top 8-10 players in this draft, aside from maybe Murphy, due to his size, will make an impact in the nhl at some point in their careers. Murphy definitely has the skills though. I still think there are enough personality questions about Huberdeau too that he could still be available at our pick as well.
I would prefer if Murray uses the 21st pick and other future picks & players to trade for current nhl players (Oshie and such) instead of our top pick this year.
Strome, could be the best of the bunch and this years version of Skinner, take a look at his highlights very impressive
That was pretty much the point I was trying to make...hence "the last word"...
Don Cherry is gonna have a 'field day' with that name...
strome-ness
LOL! No kidding, he can't even pronounce Bieksa properly...
Out of curiosity, what do you feel puts Zibanejad ahead of Couturier in your books? From what I know he's a bit more higher risk higher reward raw talent, whereas Couturier is lower risk but not as a high of an upside, just 2 way responsible.
I see Zibanejad being our Zetterberg, while Couturier being the most NHL rdy (out of the 2) being our Jordan Staal. Since we are rebuidling, we have time to develop Zibanejad, I feel getting Couturier is a rush move to try and get back to the playoffs.
That is of course if we dont land the Skog!
http://t.co/Cev2ZQQ
They are all awesome which is why Murray should forget about a Top 2 pick and try to add the 7th or 8th to our 6th. :)
And just to be clear, I dont mind Couturier aswell, like you said, safe pick, responsible 2 way C, would be a ncie change on our 2nd line!
I just feel the Sens and Maclean are going offensive, thus I would prefer having a more offensive 2C.
But I wont complain, unless its Huberdeau...
A good read and interesting photo of him. Until today I didn't know he had only one arm!
Yes instead of ditching a top pick to make a move for someone like Carter when we are clearly not going to be contenders the next two years... I would much rather see us move the 21st and player(s) or prospect(s) to land another Top 10. I we somehow manage to land Landeskog + Strome/Zibby/Co uturier I will absolutely lose my mind with happiness. So far as those three go I would probably be the most pumped about Strome.
Chirp also wrote in bold letters that from what he's heard , he no longer thought Maclean was the man.
But your right, I also heard something similar, that the Sens were not high on Couturier but that can change real quick depending who gets picked.
I'm finding lots of pithy "small risk / big reward" comments about Zibanejad.
The new coach has had a lot of recent experience working with European players.(seems to be working out really well in Detroit)
Mister Took may be dead on with his "Z at 6" prediction.
Draft Day is gonna be INTERESTING.
Well, see, getting Carter wouldnt be all bad, he's still young and locked up at a very friendly cap number. None of the players in the top 10, IMO, have Carter potential. Getting Carter makes you better right away and for a long time. We would be set at 1C & 2C.
It would probably cost us the 6th pick and prospect/picks to get Carter but the return is well worth it. Especially if our 21st turns into a top 10.
lol, I think all of Chirps posts are in bold now.
I'd really like to see Landeskog AND Strome, I'd wet myself.
now what would that take? I think the draft floor is going to be insaneeeeeeeeee eeeeeee, I don't think anyone really knows how the top 5 picks are going to pan out, Landeskog goes early and it shifts the entire board, too much depth and flexibility. I still think Oilers are crazy if they don't take Larsson.
I think the Oilers are crazy if they dont trade for Carter, they wont get a better C in the draft. But I hope they draft RNH, cuz then Carter would still be available :)
Agreed, i would make the deal in a heart beat. Carter is the kind of goal scoring forward we lost when heatley bailed - only he is younger, has more heart, and costs way less. I think a move like this is one of the only ways to make some of our fellow posters' "dreams" of a quick turnaround come true.
the question is which prospect goes - philly seems pretty solid on the front and back end. And if this trade was on the table it means they signed bryz, they will be fairly deep in the crease as well.
I would prefer to hang on to our prospects, and package the 6th overall with a 2nd and a 4th or something. but im not sure that would get the deal done.
Im only guessing here but, either one of Cowen, Rundblad, Wiercioch?
I think Cowen and Rundblad are both untouchables, but I'd give up Wiercioch or any of our other dmen, but I don't think they would get the deal done.
http://dcprosportsreport.com/NHLMocks.htm for the latest on who people think we will draft @ #6. Looks like a total tossup, but then the big time consensus is Strome @ #7.
Another signing for the Blues that is not Oshie, I'd be more excited about trading for Oshie than Carter.
I guess part of my point is that if we are not going to be contenders for at least a couple seasons, what is the point dressing that much of a better team this season? Sure scoring a player like Carter is not an opportunity that comes along very often, but he *will* bolster us in the standings next year - do we really want that?
Grab a prospect, whether they are ready to play & learn (Landeskog) or spend some time in the minors first (Strome)or god willing BOTH. Then this sets us up for the future, doesn't make the team that much better next season where we can continue a more 'proper' stab at a rebuild.
Put it this way, if you get your Carter, you aren't getting your Yakupov that's for sure!
This team won't be in the basement next season, the ONLY reason why we finished like we did this year was because of Elliott, (see Avalanche).
Another reason why this team will be more successful: MacLean and Murray won't survive another season at the bottom of the heap, Melnyk may have had a fire sale, but it wasn't to lose, it was to get younger and shed salary. Melnyk is no Mark Cuban, but the guy wants to win.
I am not saying you are right or wrong, or that I agree or disagree, but unlike us, hopefully Sens management has made up their mind whether we are rebuilding this year or making a Cup run. LOL.
I've heard good things about Strome too, and I think he may be available at 6th pick.
IF we added a Top 6 prospect ready to play at least the last half the season.
IF we added Carter
IF Anderson keeps up his brilliance
IF MacLean get's Gonchar and Michalek rolling better
and the biggest IF Alfie comes back healthy for the first time in a while
Then we CAN be Cup contenders next season, never mind two years from now!
*sits back and enjoys the brain endorphins*
How do you get that Top 6 prospect AND Carter though, as much as I agree with all of the above, I still think we're sacrificing our future too much. If we plan on being the Detroit of the East, trading away the future isn't how its done, its mostly inhouse.
I also cannot see them trading either Cowen or Rundblad. Murray has spent a couple of years building that D.. not to trade it away.
We all agree they should be better than last season... but nothing is guaranteed. Injuries to key players can turn a good season bad for the Sens right now.
As far as the draft... it's out there that the Avs will take Landeskog. They have no intention of moving down.
So I would guess the Sens will stay at 6th. What do they do if that scenario they don't like actually happens. This team has no luck.
They can either trade down to try to get another pick OR they trade the 6th for a more-ready prospect (like last season). I think they have a better chance of moving up from 21st. I just hope they can do it without giving up the 35th overall.
completetly agree with you Johne, I really like what I see in this guy, he is the full package, who loves to score, and you cant teach that, I can see him as this years version of Skinner
Suonds pretty good, thanks for your response. I like the comparisons you made for those two players, and as you said neither is a bad pick, 1 will just be a better pick.
As for Huberdeau, he's not my fav either, I just have a feeling he may be the best left available at our pick. I'm one who doesn't buy into him being a top 3 pick this year, despite the great year he had. However, would be interesting to see who BM would take between him Strome and Zibanejad if all were available at our pick.
6th- I'd like to see Strome
21st- Grimaldi
Zibanejad isn't getting enough cred tho the kid has just as much upside, possibly more, than any of the others. Not sure if the Sens have him high on their priority list, but he's going to be a great hockey player.
Better than Landeskog imo.
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