Edmonton- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Colorado- Adam Larsson
Florida- Jonathan Huberdeau
New Jersey- Sean Couturier
NY Islanders- Ryan Murphy
Ottawa- Gabriel Landeskog
Atlanta- Ryan Strome
Columbus- Dougie Hamilton
Boston- Mika Zibanejad
Minnesota- Oscar Klefbom
Again, this is the prediction if the teams were to stay in the predetermined order and I really don't think they will. It's difficult for me to gauge exactly what other teams might do on draft day.
On the Sens front I can base it a little more on some of the speculation around the club the last little while.
Based on some of the buzz I've been hearing, I could see the Sens trying to move up to the #3 spot in an attempt to grab Sea Dogs star Jonathan Huberdeau. If they can't get there and the Devils do grab Couturier or a defenceman at #4, then I think there's a chance Landeskog falls to Ottawa.
Isles would grab defenceman Ryan Murphy with the 5th, Sens grab Gabriel Landeskog at #6. If the Senators can't move from the #6 spot and Landeskog is off the board, then I think they will be more than willing to grab Ryan Strome, a player they were quite high on earlier this season.
If the Sens do end up hanging on to that second first round pick, then I think I'd like to see them go with Sea Dogs Centre Zack Phillips. He looked quite good in last night's Memorial Cup final, played well at both ends of the ice and would be a good player to take a chance on. Obviously the club has a number of options with that pick though.
Of course it could all play out completely different than what I have presented above. That will be the fun of Draft Day.
- The Ottawa Senators announced they have signed forward Louie Caporusso to a two-year entry level deal and forward Jakob Silfverberg to a three year deal.
- Steve Lloyd has listed some of the prospects that will be in Ottawa next week. On Monday Couturier, Strome and Zibanejad will be in town. Tuesday will be Hamilton, Huberdeau and Landeskog. Nugent-Hopkins, Murphy and Larsson will not come in.
- Good news for people that have been following the Binghamton Senators and their run to the Calder Cup. Rogers Sportsnet will be carrying the remainder of the series between the BSens and the Houston Aeros.
- Mentioned this on Twitter not long ago but the word is that in total, the Sens will speak to 6-7 candidates about the head coach position. MacTavish has already been interviewed and they still plan to speak to a few more guys this week.
Yea I think this is sort of my ideal draft day scenario more than anything. Would love to see two D go in the Top 5 to ensure that Ottawa has a chance to choose the forward they like best at #6.
I've noticed that Phillips has moved up significantly in most mock drafts recently. It's a lot less likely that he's going to be available at 21 than it was a month ago. However if there is a player around at 15 or so that Ottawa really likes we should try and move up. It only took a 3rd to go from 18 to 15 to get Karlsson.
I could see dougie hamilton going in the top 5, I think it would be more likely him to the Islanders than Murphy. From what I've seen Murphy has a huge offensive upside but his defensive skills are not fully developed. He probably plays a lot like karlsson.
With Hamonic and Wishart getting time in the NHL this past season, to go with De Haan, that is three pretty good D prospects.
My personal belief is that they could really use a C prospect.
I think Florida may be willing to trade down, only because they seem to be building a very big team, as well an extra 2nd rounder is very similar to an extra late 1st in this years draft.
They could be willing to trade 3rd overall to Ottawa, for 6th overall and early - mid 2nd. This would allow them to pick up either another D prospect such as Hamilton or Couturier at C to match their new big prospects.
1. Edmonton Oilers Draft C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche Draft C Sean Couturier
3. Florida Panthers Drafts D Adam Larsson
4. New Jersey Devils Drafts D Dougie Hamilton
5. NY Islanders Drafts C Jonathan Huberdeau
6. Ottawa Senators Drafts LW Gabriel Landeskog
7. Atlanta/Winnipe g Drafts C Ryan Strome
8. Columbus Blue Jackets Drafts D Ryan Murphy
9. Boston Bruins Drafts D Nathan Beaulieu
10.Minnesota Wild Drafts C Mika Zibanejad
Also I would still like to see the Senators with one of there later picks in one of the third or fourth round picks draft Adam Lowry.
fyi, i was having troubles seeing the post earlier chirp, but now i can see it
Sweet!
Another 3rd liner!
I truly believe he is there preference behind Huberdeau.
Witrh the exception of Jason Spezza this team all fits on the third & fourth line but give the ones we have a year or another (Silfverberg, Butler, 6th round pick) we will have 4 top 6 players. Rebuilding for the future not immediate tomorrow.
RNH
Jonathan Huberdeau
Adam Larsson
Gabriel Landeskog
Dougie Hamilton
Couturier
Therefore (once again IMO), the Sens will either be left with one of Landeskog, Hamilton, Couturier.
Hypothetically, if this were to happen would Sens fan be pissed? (Assuming no teams move around)
1- RNH (Had too good a season to be passed up for 1st overall despite Huberdeau's performance)
2- Huberdeau (Colorado has the 11th overall too, they can use that pick to take a defense)
3- Larsson (Florida has defensive depth, but he's just too good to pass up)
Continued...
You don't know that Tookie.
The guy is small at 5ft 9... but he is fast... and has great hands. A Hobey Baker award finalist in the NCAA -- so he must have some talent. In the NHL now size is not as much of an issue as it was in the days of obstruction.
He will be in the AHL next season. The Sens have already said that.
Why do you always predict a Sens prospect as a 3rd liner when you have not even seen him play?
Can you please answer that question?
5- Landeskog (replaces the loss of Horton, I don't believe that's too far off)
6- Hamilton (I understand Sens have too much defensive depth, but this guy has monster written all over him, played close to 40 mins during the playoffs)
Rundblad starts the year in the AHL (gets used to NA sized rinks). Cowen makes the team, and the Sens give Hamilton 9 games to see if he's ready. Once the 9 games are up, they'll send him back to juniors, bring Rundblad up.
Find a young forward through trade (and definitely take one with the 21st overall)
Is anyone else worried about drafting a player who's stock is dropping fast as opposed to rising?
Murray drafted EK and moved up to get him because his value was rising.
Cowen was already locked in that range due to his injury.
The fact that Landeskog was once ranked as the #1 or #2 prospect and has only gone down troubles me a little
Has Dave Cameron's 'stock' fallen at all since the Majors loss yesterday -- in the way of being the O-Sens coach next season?
I really did not like Melnyk coming out to say he wants him as coach. Hiring friends or people you owe favours to is not the proper way to run a NHL team.
I would think the other candidates would have more qualifications than him.
I hope Murray sticks to his guns and does not hire this guy. He has to get this coach right this time. How can he go to the fans and say he has hired Cameron when most hockey knowledgable fans know it was because of the owner. A couple of bad coaching moves, bad seasons... and to start a re-build with the wrong coach will be hard to sell to the paying fans.
The fans will be in an uproar if he does hire him. They will see it as Hartsburg all over again.
Quoting fireball8992:
Rundblad is already in a Mans league playng a mans minutes and putting up huge numbers. If they put him in the AHL at all next season I'll be shocked. If the top 4 forwards in this draft get picked before the 6th pick, I still dont see the sens drafting hamilton over strome.
Mon.-Couturier,Strome,Zibanejad. Tues.-Hamilton, Huberdeau,Lande skog. RNH,Larsson,Mur phy not coming
I never questioned him playing in a mans league, I said he needs to adjust to North American ice...I don't think 8 preseason games will do that, he needs to learn how to move the puck in a smaller rink.
Well, if they do draft Strome over Hamilton, they'll be making a mistake. I promise you that, Strome could be a bust, Hamilton will not be. I'd love to be proved wrong though, but I'm very confident Strome will never be a top line player. Hamilton could be a top pairing defense, and down the line the Sens would be in a great position to grab a very good forward for one of their defense.
Colorado- Adam Larsson
Florida- Jonathan Huberdeau
New Jersey- Dougie Hamilton
NY Islanders- Sean Couturier
Ottawa- Gabriel Landeskog
Atlanta- Ryan Strome
Columbus- Ryan Murphy
Boston- Mika Zibanejad
Minnesota- Oscar Klefbom
My Top 10 Projection for 2011 NHL Draft
1. Edmonton Oilers - C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche - LW Gabriel Landeskog
3. Florida Panthers - C Sean Couturier
4. New Jersey Devils - D Adam Larsson
5. NY Islanders - D Dougie Hamilton
6. Ottawa Senators - C Jonathan Huberdeau
If Devils & Islanders don't take a D, I'd expect the Sens to take Strome or Zibanejad.
7. Atlanta/Winnipe g - C Ryan Strome
8. Columbus Blue Jackets - C Mika Zibanejad
9. Boston Bruins - D Oscar Klefbom
10.Minnesota Wild - D Ryan Murphy
I see what you mean about adjusting to north american ice, but I think he'll make a quick transition. With training camp, pre-season annnd the 8 or 9 games they get to decide to send players down to the AHL I think he'll have it figured out.
I have to disagree when you say Strome wont be a top line player in the NHL one day, his hands are WAY to good for him not to be. Once he fills out and adjusts to the speed of the NHL Ithink he'll be a great player putting up 50-70 point seasons... He put up 106 points in the O, players who do that are raily busts, plus his stock is rising, not falling. to me he looks like a player who is only going to get better. I'm not against the sens drafting dougie hamilton by any means but if I was BM I think I'd take strome.
With that being said, the prospect of RNH and Hall playing together is probably too good for them to pass up. We are allowed to dream tho ...
rogers sportsnet is going to air the rest of the bingo games! finally dont need to watch on a choppy stream
source from twitter:
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Huberdeau was seen by more scouts/experts due to the Memorial Cup. He rose to the occasion and played well.
Landeskog had a great year as well... just not a long playoff run. Was it out of sight and out of mind going on.
Its simple, he's small and gets pushed around. Just look in the NHL and you wont find much 5'9 players that are legit top 6.
Sure he's got talent, they all do, but not top 6 talent. I've watched him play in the Frozen Four and he wasnt that great, you can see in his play that he would equate to a poor man's Steve Downey. Or maybe even Steve Downey (helps to play with Stamkos, St.Louis) so keep that in mind.
Not to mention we already have Da Costa, who hasnt impressed me much.
Strome is a risk reward type player. he could be a bust, but so could a couple players in teh top 10. no player will for sure be a star. The sens will not take another defenceman, or if they do expect one of cowen/weircoch + picks to be traded for a blue chip forward prospect.
I dont think this will happen though. Huberdeau, Landeskog or Couturier will be an Ottawa Senator after the draft.
I say he's as good as dead in the water for the SENS job.
Say the Sens want to move up to 2nd or 3rd pick overall from 6th.
What else would they have to give up to move 3 or 4 spots?
I guess the draft combine will give them their final decision of who they want. They will need some team to want to move down with the right enticement.
Also -- with their 2nd round pick at 36 -- can you see them taking Shane Prince of the 67's?
I thought the 8 or 9 games rule was only if you send players back to juniors, a year on his contract will be used up no matter what next year because he's playing in the Sens organization.
As for the draft, we'll have to wait and see. Maybe I shouldn't be talking so much about busts since I've never seen most of the guys play lol. I'm confident in Murray as a drafter though, and he for sure knows A LOT more than I do so whoever he takes, I'll be happy with.
@sensarmy
Oilers are taking Huberdeau or RNH, I promise you they are not taking Larsson. Even if they did, many believe RNH could be converted to a winger, so the Avs would definitely take him anyway.
Now that you say that, I think you're right. Even still I don't believe he's going to need any AHL time.
2 Landeskog
3 Huberdeau
4 Couturier
5 Larsson
6 Strome
2 Huberdeau
3 Larsson
4 Landeskog
5 Couturier
6 Hamilton or Murphy
Daniel Briere, Martin St. Louis, Sydney Crosby, Jordan Eberle all great players 5ft 10 and under. And NO I am not comparing any of the Sens prospects to those 4 -- you can't -- but small players do play in the NHL. They learn to be tough and play bigger than what they are.
DaCosta played 3 NHL games, Caporusso zero.
Are you happy with any of the Sens players.
You have to be the most negative of all the fans.
No, im realist, and your right you cant compare Caporusso to those guys, that would be absurd. And that is only a handful, like I said there would be. Chances are he doesnt even make the NHL cuz of his size. 6'0 seems to be the avg height.
And if he does make the team he will be hard pressed to find time at 2nd Centre with either Couturier, Strome, Huberdeau or Laich in there soon.
See I dont get when people say this, just makes you look uninformed...
Huberdeau 43 in 67 = 0.64 GPG
Landeskog 36 in 53 - 0.68 GPG
just so you know crosby and eberle (just like alfredsson) are 5'11. i know i shouldnt be posting this about 1 stupid inch, but trust me, 1 inch makes a huge difference in size, also the difference between these guys is that crosby is a strong 200lbs. and alfie is roughly 205lbs. and eberle is at 185 and i imagine he will put on arround 10 lbs as he gets a bit older. caporusso is 5`10 188 lbs. that is actauly pretty thick for a short person and im sure come training camp he will be arround 190-195lbs since everyone bothers him about his lack of size.
Just try and see it this way, would you rather have Mike Richards or Mike Ribeiro...
However tookie I think what Skip was looking at was the PPG of both players, that being 1.56 for Huberdeau and 1.2 for Lando. So I think calling him misinformed was probably uncalled for.
No need to be a dick , we're all cheering for the good guys
1st lando
1st phlilips/saad
2nd jurco
2nd pumepul
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=367371
Yea mentioned this yesterday. It is also listed at the bottom of this post.
#corrections
Also, is the Bingo games just going to be on SNE/Ontario/Sens?
I'm getting really tired of awful choppy streams here in the west.
Okay Tookie -- definitely Mike Richards. Can't stand Riberio.
i wouldn't get your hopes up, but who knows. you might be setting yourself up for a depressing draft there.
So the way 'hockey gods' hate Ottawa... what do you want to make a bet that 6th player they don't want falls to them.
did you just call yourself a realist but then say brooks laich is going to be on the sens soon?
sounds like a dreamer to me
Can't believe we even interviewed MacTavish. I IMPLORE anyone who wants MacTavish to ask an oilers fan what they think of him. They will laugh at you (I got a big laugh from my EDM friends when I mentioned we were looking at CMacT).. He is just another joke in Edmonton. The only people who like him are those who like him from his playing days.
MacTavish was a horrible coach who had lots of problems with a few different players. He had one good playoff year - how much that had to do with HIM is debatable.
HE. IS. A. COMPLETE. JOKE. I take issue with a lot of fellow Chirpers, but seeing am interest in MacT is just inexcusable. Don't think anything Sens angers me quite this much (save Yashin, Heatley and keeping Wade, not Z.
i remember he also suggested we sign Mike Brodeur as our backup next year...
At least Dave Cameron MADE IT to every major event this year in junior hockey, and his teams made it to the finals in each and every one of those events.
If he's dead in the water, I'd hate to see what that means for everyonelse.
1- EDM- Nugent-Hopkins
2- COL- Landeskog (I cant see COL passing on the best power fwd in the draft for a Dman when they just traded their best young power fwd in Stewart to St Louis for a Dman)
3- FLA- Huberdeau
4- NJ- Larsson
5- NYI- Dougie Hamilton
6- OTT- Strome
7- WIN- Couturier
8- CLB- Ryan Murphy
9- BOS- Beaulieu
10- MIN- Joel Armia
I would love to get Landeskog or Huberdeau too but the reality is its gonna be tough to move up and get one of them. I'm hoping Puempel slips to 21 so they can grab him there and then I'd like to see them draft Boone Jenner in round 2.
yeah, i wouldn't bet thanks. i still think they're trying to move up though to avoid the inevitable hockey god prank.
I think there are great thing to love about the top forward prospects.
Landeskog- NHL ready winger with great skill + passion
Huburdeau- one of the more all rounded forwards in draft
Couturier- probably the most NHL ready; skill + size
Zibenejad- one of the more skilled all round forwards
Strome- bright future, but still a lot to prove next season in Junior
Also, what ppl need to understand is that the ISS rankings and all that other jazz is totally irrelevant when it comes to the teams' management teams and scouts. Every team has a guy they have their eye on. Sam Bowie was drafted ahead of Michael Jordan. TSN and all the other one's are just fluff.
Ottawa's 6th overall pick for a more NHL ready player like Doug Weight or Adam Foote, or perhaps a proven, seasoned veteran, like Sylvain Turgeon or Christian Ruutu.
Seriously though, we just need Col, NJ and NYI to select 2 defensmen and we're good. Any of Landeskog, Couturier or Huberdeau is fine with me.
Personnally, I'm more anxious with the coaching situation. I hope Murray goes for a proven AHL coach like Cunneyworth or Dineen. Coaches that will be good with young, developing players. I think Kleinendorst should stay in Bingo, get more experience, and remain a solid backup in case we have to go through coach number 6 in 4 years. Some people have mentioned Yeo but I doubt he would consider a job with Ottawa, especially if Bingo wins the Calder Cup. That would be weird.
And please, for the love of all things not Kovalev, no Cameron or Muller. Those would be HUGE mistakes...
The NHL Central Scouting rankings are made to help teams rank players, same with the ISS, to say the teams don't take other scouts opinions into consideration is a joke.
@Willie
If the sens draft strome over couturier then BM is more retarded than his speech impediment.
speech impendent isnt something to joke about, its a disablitity, so stop being an asshole
Can't wait until the draft. Whoever we get I'll be ecstatic about.
If there are no trades in the first 3 selections, I could see Murray getting Jersey on the phone. Jersey has one of the most pathetic blue lines in the league, so I'd be shocked if they don't try to trade up to get Larsson, or trade down to get one of Murphy or Hamilton.
Do you think it's a possibility that Murray could include Chris Neil in a trade package?
I really don't want to see him leave. But some other teams value him for his intensity and toughness. Can the Sens replace him if he leaves?
I agree, this top 6 looks impossible to determine. when people say the draft is weak because there is no "Hall vs. Seguin" they are WRONG. This year its so close between so many guys, I wouldn't even give RNH clear-cut top position, except for the fact that we all know EDM will take him, so lets look smart and rank him number 1.
MY TAKE:
Ottawa has one guy they want (Likely Landeskog, Couturier or Huberdeau) and they will not wait til 6th spot to get him.
GREAT POST CHIRP
the Binghamton news is nice and all.. but we all know what SensChirp is really about:
The Mafacken Ottawa Senators!!!
Top ranked, non-russian players who were drafted
5th - Jonathon Huberdeau
16th - Gabriel Landeskog
106th - Ryan Murphy
111th - Ryan Strome
133rd - Sean Couturier
Jonathon Huberdeau was the highest Canadian ever drafted. No other Canadian has ever been drafted before the 3rd round. So does this mean that - a) Huberdeau is that good of a prospect or b) The team that drafted him is planning a big offer to entice him over to the KHL. Would you take 25M over 5 years tax free from the KHL or 3M over 3 years from the NHL on a rookie caped deal? I would be a little fearful of this if we drafted Huberdeau and it will be interesting to see if this scares anyone off a bit.
I see Cutourier sliding nicely as our second line centre next season. He compares himself to Jordan Staal.
Conveniently, I'm a Staal fan :)
remember tookie, you can't judge someone just by their size, their heart,drive and dedication could make the difference.
i still cringe when they talk about marty st.louis not making the ottawa team... and he becomes a superstar in the nhl.
who would have known? not tookie!
Get it done!
COL. Larsson
OTT. Landskog
NJD. Huberdeau
NYI. Courtier
OTT. Strome
I also will be happy with whoever they get, they rock at drafting.
You raise a very good point and awesome name by the way...
I for one would be pumped if we good get Brett Connolly or Nino. They would jump in next year for sure.
What say you chirpers? Anyone from last year's draft you think BM could/would trade for?
@ CaMo
Suggesting there is that much of a gap between 2 kids ranked in virtually every projection to be in the top 8 picks of the NHL draft is more retarded then that feeble attempt at humour
As for my comment about the speech impediment, I'd love to take that one back. Beers on the deck on your day off will make you post gutty comments like that. So sorry.
How about Jeff Skinner? LOL.
Would LA give up Braydon Schenn? Wouldn't that piss off Brian Burke.
I like this idea because it's relatively low risk. Two prospects drafted early, so no chasing superstar FAs or giving away prospects in a trade. It's basically shortening prospect development (ie our rebuild) by a year.
We're definitely biased because of what (so far, fingers crossed) appears to be Rundblad's emergence.
I mentioned this just after the fisher trade. Didn't know we'd be picking 6th specifically, But I suggested that Murray might Rundblad one of our firsts for a guy with a year more development.
I think I said NSH pick for Etem. or our pick for connolly.
its cool though. great minds most certainly think alike.
LOL maybe we'll even trade the NSH pick for Tarasenko, just to cover all our bases the rundblad trade!
Yeah I guess I'll eat as much crow as I did this year when I predicted the SENS would suck horribly with this roster...When people like you said we were making the playoffs with this solid team, LOL.
And I'll eat crow when Huberdeau actually becomes a great player in the NHL like you claim he will. Until then, I say he is a major bust and in Florida or Long Island, that will probably help my prediction!
That would be cool... hopefully it's aired on TSN and not a web series...
Seems obvious that they are doing a behind-the-scen es draft documentary. It will be interesting to see if it goes through the summer (rookie camp, free agent season) and into camp.
Would love to go but had to figure some things out first.
I really hope the "Senate Reform" will be like Oil Change! Whatever it is, I hope that they're behind the scenes down in Bingo. Can't wait until June 6th.
Colorado- Adam Larsson
Florida- Jonathan Huberdeau
New Jersey- Dougie Hamilton
NY Islanders- Sean Couturier
Ottawa- Gabriel Landeskog
Winnipeg- Ryan Strome
Columbus- Ryan Murphy
Boston- Mika Zibanejad
Minnesota- Oscar Klefbom
Couturier is the exact type of responsible 2 way C the Devils would consider at 4th if Larsson is already taken. Your argument that they would go veteran instead doesn't solve their C issue for 3 years from now. No one is saying it will be their 1st line C starting this year. Your argument has little to do with your assessment.
They have enough firepower upfront with Kovalchuk, Zajac, Elias and great support in Josefson, Steckel, Clarkson, Zubrus.
Not to mention if they keep Parise. I hope they do go with FW, that would mean Parise is a goner.
Dineen
Mac T
KK
Crawford
Muller
Cameron
I agree that they need to draft a center, but I still don't think its as high a priority as a defensemen. There are good center prospects in the range of their second round pick.
And, as someone else already mentioned, they already have a couple of good center prospects like adam henrique (with two memorial cups) and josefson.
I've heard they are going to interview (or have interviewed) Deboer about the job too.
1. Edmonton Oilers Draft C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Colorado Avalanche Draft C Jonathan Huberdeau
3. Florida Panthers Drafts D Adam Larsson
4. New Jersey Devils Drafts D Dougie Hamilton
5. NY Islanders Drafts D Ryan Murphy
6. Ottawa Senators Drafts LW Gabriel Landeskog
7. Atlanta/Winnipe g Drafts C Sean Couturier
8. Columbus Blue Jackets Drafts C Mika Zibanejad
9. Boston Bruins Drafts C Ryan Strome
10.Minnesota Wild Drafts D Nathan Beaulieu
Then alike Chirp I'd like to get Zach Phillips with our second pick. The kid has great passing skils and plays both ends of the ice. I agree he looked good the other night and he was also playing injured.
Other mentions with our 2nd: Joel Armia, Boone Jenner, Thomas Jurco and Mark McNeil.