Friday, 27 May 2011 11:51

Calder Cup Opener- Head Coach Talk

As I mentioned in a post the other day, Sens GM Bryan Murray has begun his search for the next head coach of the Ottawa Senators. Cory Clouston was relieved of his duties a day after the regular season ended and since that point, the organization has been thinking about who would be the best fit with this rebuilding/retooling hockey club.

Word is the interviews have started this week.

Got an email from a contact late yesterday afternoon that included a list of the people he believes will be interviewed for the head coach position. Interesting variety of names on this list including a name that nobody is talking about.

At least one name on here, Marc Crawford, has apparently already been interviewed.

Unfortunately, I can not confirm whether or not this is the actual list of candidates but considering what we already know, some of the names make sense. Also, I doubt this is a complete list of interviewees. Names like Kirk Muller, Ken Hitchcock and Craig MacTavish are all noticeably absent from this group. Also, Dave Cameron is on this list but I have been told on a couple of occasions that he is a long shot to be the next coach.

Let's call it speculation for now. Here are the names that were passed along...

  • Kurt Kleinendorst - Binghamton Senators (AHL)
  • Gerard Gallant - Saint John Sea Dogs (QMJHL)
  • Brad McCrimmon
  • Randy Cunneyworth - Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL)
  • Marc Crawford
  • Don Jackson - Eisbären Berlin (DEL)
  • Dave Cameron - Mississauga St. Mike's Majors (OHL)

Bob McKenzie has also weighed in on the Sens coaching situation and offered up some other names to consider. Kirk Muller, Craig MacTavish, Pete DeBoer, John Torchetti and Kevin Dineen are all on his list.


Game 1 of the Calder Cup Finals goes tonight in Houston. It has been a fairly lengthy layoff for the Binghamton Senators so I would expect to see signs of rust from a team that was red hot against the Charlotte Checkers.

No word on whether or not there will be a stream for this one but keep an eye on the comment section because there is often one posted in there closer to game time.

If you haven't already booked your spot for the Road Trip to Bingo get on it! It's filling up fast but there are still seats left. Click here for more info on how you can reserve your spot!

GO BSENS GO!!

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+1 #1 pack1285 2011-05-27 10:56
Ahhh I want to see Kirk Muller on that list!
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+1 #2 SensChirp 2011-05-27 10:57
Quoting pack1285:
Ahhh I want to see Kirk Muller on that list!

As do I. Find it hard to believe he wouldn't be given an interview unless he has his heart set on another job. Perhaps in Dallas?
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+3 #3 JRMcPeeWee 2011-05-27 11:28
I like Kurt Kleinendorst I have heard a couple of interviews with him and the guy speaks very highly of his hard working players and sounds very genuine. The guys down in Bingo all respond well to him so I think he would do well in Ottawa. Kirk Muller would be my 1st choice but if not then Kurt would do just fine.
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-2 #4 CaMo 2011-05-27 11:43
I think Marc Crawford would be a good fit. I've heard he doesn't give young guys alot of room to grow, but it's not like he'd going to have any choice if he's coaching Ottawa.
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+1 #5 Sandy 2011-05-27 12:03
Quoting CaMo:
I think Marc Crawford would be a good fit. I've heard he doesn't give young guys alot of room to grow, but it's not like he'd going to have any choice if he's coaching Ottawa.


Well if he does not give young guys a lot of room... then he is not suited for Ottawa. Every time I hear of Crawford all I remember is that smirk on his face as Bertuzzi took down Moore.

I'm surprised Muller is also not on that list... unless he has already said he would not consider Ottawa.

Another name I'm surprised is not on that list is Kevin Dineen.

But of those you mentioned Chirp.... if not KK -- then it should be Randy Cunneyworth or Gerard Gallant. Probably more so Cunneyworth. Both ex-NHL players who know the game..

But it will be interesting indeed.

Let's hope the B-Sens rust only lasts one period. I think it will mostly show in Lehner than the other players.

Let go B-Sens..
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+7 #6 Johne 2011-05-27 12:04
Imagine if Boston won the Cup & Kaberle handed the Cup to Seguin who then handed it to Tuukka Rask.
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+3 #7 SensChirp 2011-05-27 12:06
Quoting Johne:
Imagine if Boston won the Cup & Kaberle handed the Cup to Seguin who then handed it to Tuukka Rask.

Who then handed it to Chara, then to Kelly and over to GM Pete Chiarelli
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+1 #8 Johne 2011-05-27 12:07
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Johne:
Imagine if Boston won the Cup & Kaberle handed the Cup to Seguin who then handed it to Tuukka Rask.

Who then handed it to Chara, then to Kelly and over to GM Pete Chiarelli


hahaha
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+1 #9 Johne 2011-05-27 12:08
I like the list, goes to show management has an open mind about who they'd like to bring in and not just names on the front page of TSN.
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+1 #10 Johne 2011-05-27 12:20
http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/

Landeskog has slid to 5th according to this mock draft, I think if he's there at 5, you gotta trade up to get him, but not worth the 2nd 1st rounder
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-2 #11 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-05-27 12:26
Ken Hitchcock please!
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+2 #12 DABC 2011-05-27 12:28
BINGO Game 1 Stream

TEAM 1200 said that they would be streaming the Bingo game tonight on their front page - www.team1200.com. Game time is 8:30pm
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+3 #13 Johne 2011-05-27 12:29
I think our 6th pick will be one of Landeskog/Coutu rier/Strome and I don't think you lose with any of those players, all excellent. Chirp, any updates on signing Butler? I'm a bit surprised it's taken this long.
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0 #14 ohjohne 2011-05-27 12:30
Quoting Johne:
http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/

Landeskog has slid to 5th according to this mock draft, I think if he's there at 5, you gotta trade up to get him, but not worth the 2nd 1st rounder


it wouldnt be worth a 1st rounder to trade from 6 to 2.
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+3 #15 THEBLACKTERROR 2011-05-27 12:33
I don't understand the ballwashing that Muller gets.

Is he really that much more qualified than any of the names here? I don't think so.

Of the list there, I like the idea of Crawford, I like Gallant, I like Cunneyworth, but the name I like most to be honest is Brad McCrimmon.

He's a serious NHL vet, so he knows what it takes to play in the league. On top of this, he's been Babcock's assistant in the most successful organization in the NHL over the past 20 years. Obviously he wasn't the coach there for the entire time, but he's part of that, so he probably understand how to win in the NHL.

Not a fan of Cameron, or Jackson, glad to see Hitch and MacT excluded, and I think KK is doing too good of a job in Bingo to move him on yet.

So if it's Crawford, Gallant, Cunneyworth, or McCrimmon, then I'm satisfied. Or Paul McLean, heard today he hasn't signed on with the Red Wings yet, and he's got history with Murray (Anaheim).
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+1 #16 SensChirp 2011-05-27 12:34
Just received word that there are 10 spots left on the bus to Bingo! Sign up now before you miss your chance! There is a chance we could look at a second bus if demand was there but right now it's just the one. Sign up today!
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+5 #17 Spaceman 2011-05-27 12:41
please not crawford.
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+1 #18 Sandy 2011-05-27 12:43
Quoting Johne:
Imagine if Boston won the Cup & Kaberle handed the Cup to Seguin who then handed it to Tuukka Rask.

Now that would be hilarious.
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+2 #19 Johne 2011-05-27 12:44
Quoting Spaceman:
please not crawford.


ditto. not a crawford fan at all.
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+1 #20 fireball8992 2011-05-27 13:06
@BlackTerror

Wings fans were happy to see McCrimmon go, so I don't know if he was really all that great of a coach. On the flip side, Muller is getting his "ballwashing" because he was basically running everything that was successful for the Habs the past 2 years.

Also, KK shouldn't be moved up, Clouston was a great AHL coach too, but look at how that worked out in the NHL, so you've got to believe that Murray will be wary of that.
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-3 #21 Johne 2011-05-27 13:27
I agree about the fear of KK potentially being Clouston 2.0, but I think if he wins the Calder, all that should be thrown out the window.
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+2 #22 boom 2011-05-27 13:29
Quoting Johne:
Quoting Spaceman:
please not crawford.


ditto. not a crawford fan at all.


Agreed. Anyone who spends that much time on his hair can't be expected to be a leader of men.
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+3 #23 Tookie 2011-05-27 13:39
None of those guys except Crawford and McCrimmon have NHL experience...SE NS mentioned they are getting a guy with NHL experience, not a guy from the juniors of AHL.

Hitchcock would be the best option, he had done a great job with CBJ, a team that very much resembles the SENS situation now.
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+1 #24 Johne 2011-05-27 13:42
@Tookie they ALL have nhl experience, just not as a head coach
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0 #25 senswatch 2011-05-27 13:43
Quoting Johne:
I agree about the fear of KK potentially being Clouston 2.0, but I think if he wins the Calder, all that should be thrown out the window.


Winning the calder would be a plus, but KK and CC's personalities are opposites. The way they handle the players are opposite. If anything i would expect the opposite result of CC not a CC 2.0
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0 #26 Johne 2011-05-27 13:53
http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie - OTT coach-hiring process should start heating up soon. Look for Craig MacTavish to be amongst those interviewed.
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0 #27 Johne 2011-05-27 13:54
http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie - Peter DeBoer, Kurt Kleinendorst (Binghamton), MacTavish, Dave Cameron (MIS), John Torchetti thought to be amongst those in mix for OTT job.
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-2 #28 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-05-27 13:56
I wouldn't mind Pete DeBoer. Has always been considered a good coach.
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0 #29 splaunt 2011-05-27 13:59
TOOKIE - Not sure what you mean about none of the others having NHL coaching experience.

Gerald Gallant as been a head coach with Columbus and also spent time as an assistant coach in NHL

Randy Cunneyworth has been an assistant in NHL with Atlanta

Don Jackson has been an assistant in NHL including with the Sens

IMO - 2 top choices for me would be Gallant and I think Muller would be good even though he has no NHL head coaching experience. Would be OK with Randy Cunneyworth or KK as well.

I would stay away from Brad McCrimmon - as a little leary that he has spent so much time as an assistant and he has no head coaching experience period even outside the NHL (at least that I can see) and please no Dave Cameron
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0 #30 SensChirp 2011-05-27 14:01
Few new names being offered up by MacKenzie as people who might be in the mix for the Ottawa job including Torchetti, MacTavish and DeBoer
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0 #31 SensChirp 2011-05-27 14:03
And now Muller and Dineen added to his list.
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0 #32 Sensnation 2011-05-27 14:04
Quoting fireball8992:
@BlackTerror

Wings fans were happy to see McCrimmon go, so I don't know if he was really all that great of a coach. On the flip side, Muller is getting his "ballwashing" because he was basically running everything that was successful for the Habs the past 2 years.
...


Can you please explain how Muller is running everything on a Jacques Martin coached team that's playing exactly the same as the Sens did under him but without Muller. Gotta love the trollers!
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0 #33 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 14:12
Any chance Hitchcock is on the list Chirp? he has the best record of the coaches available and a cup ring to go along with it. He coached a sub par CBJ to a decent record and even led them to the playoffs.

Hitchcock or Muller. Dale Hunter maybe?

Maybe KK isn't CC 2.0 but, do we want to find out the hard way AGAIN he was???

What about St. Patrick??? lmao
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+2 #34 SensChirp 2011-05-27 14:13
Like I said, list is for speculation purposes more than anything. McKenzie has added some names to the mix. If nothing else it's good to see that the job isn't just being handed to someone.
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0 #35 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 14:13
No DeBoer and NO CRAWFORD!
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0 #36 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 14:17
My bad, what do you pesonally think of Hitchcock?
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+1 #37 SensChirp 2011-05-27 14:18
Quoting Rundbladsson:
My bad, what do you pesonally think of Hitchcock?

I really think he is New Jersey bound. Would be an interesting fit here but I think I would prefer a little more of a player's coach this time around.
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0 #38 Spezzafan19 2011-05-27 14:21
Kirk Muller is the one that I would like to see Murray hire as the next head coach.


Also the mock draft says that the Senators are going to pick Brandon Saad with the Nashville pick I like that.
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+1 #39 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 14:28
I hope he at least is interviewed. His record speaks for itself
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+1 #40 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 14:29
Jurco is the guy I want with Nashville's pick
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+3 #41 SensChirp 2011-05-27 14:34
You never want to go toe to toe with the best and I realize McKenzie may be speculating like I did with the list above but like I have said before, Pete DeBoer is not a legitimate candidate for the Sens head coaching job.
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+1 #42 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 14:37
Quoting SensChirp:
You never want to go toe to toe with the best and I realize McKenzie may be speculating like I did with the list above but like I have said before, Pete DeBoer is not a legitimate candidate for the Sens head coaching job.


Thank God : )
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+2 #43 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-05-27 14:38
Chirp, you've been interviewed yet?
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+5 #44 SensChirp 2011-05-27 14:39
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Chirp, you've been interviewed yet?

Monday morning.
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0 #45 SENSational 2011-05-27 14:43
I agree with blackterror, MCcrimmon should get the nod. Coming from a winning organization means a lot and guaranteed he's learned a ton from Babcock. And ppl please, forget Ken Hitchcock!! It wouldn't make any sense to have a trap/defensive minded coach with all the current/future puck movers in the organization.
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+2 #46 Spezzafan19 2011-05-27 14:54
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Chirp, you've been interviewed yet?

Monday morning.


I agree I think Chirp should be the next head coach!

Chirp does not even need a interview you should be hired right on the spot!
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0 #47 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 14:54
Thats my only fear of bringing in Hitchcock,

But he's won pretty much everywhere he's been. Take the CBJ team he coached and add 2 or 3 guys and you likely have a playoff team every year.

I do fear the D/Trap system though, AND the rumors of how he treats the youngsters. Brendan Morrow turned out alright though

All in all I'm sure BM will find the right guy. Sucks it feels like an eternity for the new coach to be named and the draft to come

Go Nucks Go!

I wonder if it would have felt like an even longer wait had Bingo not made the Calder Cup.
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0 #48 jakester 2011-05-27 14:58
Hey Tookster - the FINAL ISS rankings are out and HUBERDEAU is third - eat crow my friend. THUD was that Tookie falling on his face. Well if SENS want him they can trade up - or hope for Landeskog or Couturier to drop - would be fine with either of them. Gallant would be a nice choice - seems like a great guy to play for + he looks like a guy who might be able to keep a few guys in line. McTavish not totally against him either.
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+1 #49 SensChirp 2011-05-27 15:07
Quoting jakester:
Hey Tookster - the FINAL ISS rankings are out and HUBERDEAU is third - eat crow my friend. THUD was that Tookie falling on his face. Well if SENS want him they can trade up - or hope for Landeskog or Couturier to drop - would be fine with either of them. Gallant would be a nice choice - seems like a great guy to play for + he looks like a guy who might be able to keep a few guys in line. McTavish not totally against him either.

More importantly, Landeskog has dropped to 6th. An absolute steal if the Sens can grab him there.
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+1 #50 Johne 2011-05-27 15:27
Why the drop in Landeskog? Lack of playoff production?
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+3 #51 Johne 2011-05-27 15:29
I'd like to think we could find a team to package our 2nd 1st with a few second rounders and grab Strome AND Landeskog, Getzlaf & Perry 2.0?
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+1 #52 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-05-27 15:32
anybody have that link to the new ISS rankings?
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+1 #53 Johne 2011-05-27 15:37
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/13066/iss_top30_risers_and_fallers_may2011/
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+1 #54 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 15:39
https://www.isshockey.com/scouting/home

I googled it
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+1 #55 Johne 2011-05-27 15:48
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/ everything is up to date as possible here
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0 #56 pack1285 2011-05-27 16:13
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting pack1285:
Ahhh I want to see Kirk Muller on that list!

As do I. Find it hard to believe he wouldn't be given an interview unless he has his heart set on another job. Perhaps in Dallas?


As you know, Chirp, there were rumours about a month ago that Kirk would be joining the Stars. The only thing holding it back from becoming official was the ownership situation. I'm not convinced he'll be joining them for sure though.
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-1 #57 Dorkievicz 2011-05-27 16:15
What's not to understand about the thourough washin of Muller's balls?
He's a champion. What's NOT to like about him is a better question.

I've said this before, but I think we'll be kicking ourselves if we have the chance to sign him and we don't. I just feel that Muller has all the majors of an amazing coach but just needs a shot.

In short, it will seem obvious ok hindsight.

I've said this before too, but Craig MacTavish is a joke. Why don't we go after some more of other people's' mistakes? I'm confident Murray wouldn't pick CMac, but I'm surprised at all the fans here who think he's a legitimate option. Why don't we just hire paddock again, then go acquire Daigle and Yashin...?
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0 #58 Dorkievicz 2011-05-27 16:16
Not sure how "makings" became "majors" on my iphone, but thought I'd clear that up...
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+1 #59 Sandy 2011-05-27 16:26
Quoting Johne:
I agree about the fear of KK potentially being Clouston 2.0, but I think if he wins the Calder, all that should be thrown out the window.


KK appears to be communicate well with his players... knows how the handle them.

Clouston was let go because his lack of communication skill -- basically.
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+1 #60 Sandy 2011-05-27 16:28
Quoting SensChirp:
And now Muller and Dineen added to his list.



Now I would like either of those...
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0 #61 Ctea 2011-05-27 16:30
Quoting SensChirp:
Just received word that there are 10 spots left on the bus to Bingo! Sign up now before you miss your chance! There is a chance we could look at a second bus if demand was there but right now it's just the one. Sign up today!


What are the numbers like now? Even though the first bus might be sold out, everyone who can make it out next Saturday should reserve their spot anyway.
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+1 #62 Sandy 2011-05-27 16:51
Just read of Ottawa Sens website... that only 500 tickets left for Wed's game in Bingo. Friday's game a virtual sellout... so I hope we have our Sat tickets already...
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+1 #63 Yann 2011-05-27 17:03
Does anybody know what was the serie bettween Bingo and Houston in the season ??
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0 #64 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 17:21
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Johne:
I agree about the fear of KK potentially being Clouston 2.0, but I think if he wins the Calder, all that should be thrown out the window.


KK appears to be communicate well with his players... knows how the handle them.

Clouston was let go because his lack of communication skill -- basically.



CC was let go because BM and Eugy finally realized he can't coach for shit.

No AHL coaches with no experience PLEASE! Don't do it BM, don't bring in KK.
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+2 #65 Rundbladsson 2011-05-27 17:44
It's all up to Matt Hackett if Houston has a chance in this series... Bingo's offensive numbers OBLITERATE Houston's.

Wouldn't be surprised if Bingo made this series quick. It's their's for the taking if you ask me

Go B-Sens Go!
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+2 #66 m410 2011-05-27 18:21
If they hire Crawford, I give up! Outside of Cunneyworth, I don't see a point of going with another coach with little to no NHL experience. If this group is serious about improving, a coach with the resume of Hitch would be a step in the right direction.

That said, we can probably expect Murray to go out on yet another limb, hire some unproven coach, and probably end up firing him mid-way through the season. And the wheel turns.... LOL
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+2 #67 KJ-Sens 2011-05-27 18:25
Quoting Rundbladsson:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Johne:
I agree about the fear of KK potentially being Clouston 2.0, but I think if he wins the Calder, all that should be thrown out the window.


KK appears to be communicate well with his players... knows how the handle them.


Clouston was let go because his lack of communication skill -- basically.



CC was let go because BM and Eugy finally realized he can't coach for shit.

No AHL coaches with no experience PLEASE! Don't do it BM, don't bring in KK.




Ahem, cough cough. CC left with a Winning record as a coach in Ottawa. He did not suck, but he did have an issue with Vets. That's why he is gone.

If KK can take the B-Sens to glory, I say he get a chance, since he would have half the roster anyhow.

KJ
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+1 #68 Floridasensfan 2011-05-27 18:42
Seems obvious to me that the person they have in mind or want is not available yet.

In the middle of coaching, if I am wrong the deal would be done already.

I seriously doubt they are sitting around going hmmm I wonder who at this stage.

Just like the draft they know who they want.
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+1 #69 Sandy 2011-05-27 18:49
Hitchcock is reported to not be very good with young players. That's what Ottawa has going forward and I can't see that working.
Is he also a defensive minded coach... when Ottawa Sens are better suited to an aggressive offensive game?

As for coach... Cunneyworth as head coach... Dineen as asst along with Kleinendorst? Crazy?
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+1 #70 Sandy 2011-05-27 18:56
I have read on the AHL site that Houston is a very physical team.

So you know they will target B-Sens top scorers... let's hope they can handle it.

42 Celcius in Houston with humidity. Ice will be crap... certainly does not benefit the B-Sens.
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0 #71 Captain Alfie 2011-05-27 19:09
@ Sandy

Good thing Bingo has 6 top scorers.
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+1 #72 Mr Hockey 2011-05-27 19:24
it may have been posted already but does someone have a stream?
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+1 #73 Captain Alfie 2011-05-27 19:33
Stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pisf
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0 #74 Yann 2011-05-27 19:52
Wiercioch not playing ?? Raymond in the lineup.
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+1 #75 Mr Hockey 2011-05-27 20:14
These announcers are hilarious.. Did anyone hear the announcer talking about his wifes perfume? Awesome!
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+1 #76 Sandy 2011-05-27 20:18
Quoting Mr Hockey:
These announcers are hilarious.. Did anyone hear the announcer talking about his wifes perfume? Awesome!



I believe the announcer is Grady Whittenburg of the B-Sens...
He has a cold as well.. and the perfume in the stands is bothering him as well.

Come on B-Sens... get 'er going.
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+1 #77 Ctea 2011-05-27 20:25
I'm not loving the phlegmy cough though.. Someone give the poor guy some water and fresh air!
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+1 #78 T K 2011-05-27 20:34
Quoting Mr Hockey:
These announcers are hilarious.. Did anyone hear the announcer talking about his wifes perfume? Awesome!


Love to hear his wife's reaction to that "off air" comment!!!
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+1 #79 Sensfureva 2011-05-27 20:39
anyone else have a stream to the game?
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+1 #80 T K 2011-05-27 20:43
Quoting Sensfureva:
anyone else have a stream to the game?

Stream above is back on...
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+1 #81 Captain Alfie 2011-05-27 20:59
BOBBY BUTLER!!!
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+2 #82 NickG 2011-05-27 20:59
Butler with a goal!
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+2 #83 T K 2011-05-27 21:03
Et le but!!!!!

Attaboy Bobby Butler!
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0 #84 Captain Alfie 2011-05-27 21:32
Great save LEHNER!
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+1 #85 NickG 2011-05-27 22:02
3-1. Game over.
What a terrible game.
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0 #86 Captain Alfie 2011-05-27 22:02
Looks like we've got game 5 for Bingo.
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+1 #87 Sandy 2011-05-27 22:11
I guess that layoff hurt 'their MOJO'. Let's hope they get it back for tomorrow.

I did not see or listen to it all... did they say anything about the ice conditions. They said it was extremely hot down there today.
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0 #88 NickG 2011-05-28 01:14
Quoting Sandy:
I guess that layoff hurt 'their MOJO'. Let's hope they get it back for tomorrow.

I did not see or listen to it all... did they say anything about the ice conditions. They said it was extremely hot down there today.

Ice conditions wouldn't matter since it was fair for both teams. We just got outplayed the whole game.
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-1 #89 Andrews Theory 2011-05-28 07:41
gotta say i like my chances of winning the sens chirp hockey pool...

did you ever decide on a prize chirp?
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0 #90 Kramer23 2011-05-28 09:58
I do not like reading Melnyk's support of Dave Cameron http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/05/27/melynk_cameron/

We need a proven head coach with NHL experience. Enough with hiring guys that are not proven.
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0 #91 MacK 2011-05-28 10:53
Quoting Kramer23:
I do not like reading Melnyk's support of Dave Cameron http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/05/27/melynk_cameron/

We need a proven head coach with NHL experience. Enough with hiring guys that are not proven.


I don't see anything wrong with Melnyk voicing his "vote" for the new head coach, he said it was up to Murray so it's not like Murray will be swayed just because Melnyk recommends a guy.

Murray will get the coach that he believes will best help our team and I trust his judgement.
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0 #92 Sandy 2011-05-28 11:59
Quoting NickG:
Quoting Sandy:
I guess that layoff hurt 'their MOJO'. Let's hope they get it back for tomorrow.

I did not see or listen to it all... did they say anything about the ice conditions. They said it was extremely hot down there today.

Ice conditions wouldn't matter since it was fair for both teams. We just got outplayed the whole game.


Houston would be use to bad ice -- Bingo not so much.
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0 #93 Rundbladsson 2011-05-28 13:17
Ahem, cough cough. CC left with a Winning record as a coach in Ottawa. He did not suck, but he did have an issue with Vets. That's why he is gone.

KJ

@ KJ-Sens

Ahem cough, cough COUGH! AAhhhheeeeemmmm mmmmmm

CC flatout SUCKED! he is the reason the Sens are where they are. He couldn't properly coach ANY of our stars. It started with "has been" Heatley, continued with Gonchar and finished with Kovalev, even Spezz and Alfie didn't produce as much. He was out coached night in and night out. Couldn't make a proper in-game change to save his life. Had a love affair with Ryan Shannon. He Handed the Pens the series when Dupuis scored the OT winner by sending out the 4th line after the Pens ice the puck. He probably set the record for most too many men penalties in 2 seasons, I can go on and on. PP was a joke, PP line juggling was a joke. Clouston was a joke and is HISTORY!
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0 #94 Mark 2011-05-28 13:25
Cunningworth would be a nice pick - team certainly wouldn't lack work ethic.
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0 #95 fireball8992 2011-05-28 14:37
Quoting JABSmilez:


Can you please explain how Muller is running everything on a Jacques Martin coached team that's playing exactly the same as the Sens did under him but without Muller. Gotta love the trollers!


I know it's hard to read, but I didn't say everything, I said everything that's been successful (huge difference). Muller has been running the defense, PP and PK on Montreal. Montreal's talent was not that much greater than Ottawa's, except they got better goaltending (okay, Muller didn't run that), and TEAM defense.

Also, PP and PK were very important for Montreal throughout the season, trust me on that one, I live in the city, so after the Sens, I watch a lot of Montreal.
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+2 #96 Senseagles47 2011-05-28 14:55
@Rundbladsson

Clouston had his faults but to blame the season we had all on him is dumb. Paddock, Hartsburg and Clouston all had the same problems with this team so when do you begin to look at leadership as well? The same group of guys we had this season (minus Gonchar)made the playoffs last year and took the pens to a game 6 despite having MM, Kovalev and Kuba out. Interesting to see people bash clouston this year and those same people where saying he is a jack adams candidate last season. The leadership on this team should be the question just as much as clouston and BM are in question as well.

Yes clouston didn't do the greatest job but neither did BM until he started his firesale.
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0 #97 Rundbladsson 2011-05-28 15:07
Oh I was bashing him last year too. I personally didn't think he deserved the Jack Adams that year either.

Yes, BM is to blame as well, for not firing CC's ass sooner. As for the leadership, tough to question Alfie and the Big Rig, they don't override the coach.
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0 #98 Senseagles47 2011-05-28 16:11
Quoting Rundbladsson:
Oh I was bashing him last year too. I personally didn't think he deserved the Jack Adams that year either.

Yes, BM is to blame as well, for not firing CC's ass sooner. As for the leadership, tough to question Alfie and the Big Rig, they don't override the coach.


BM is to blame for also hiring 3 failed coaches as well as terrible signings. He pretty much attempted to fix his previous messups with one massive cleanup towards the end of last year.

How can you not question Alfie or Philips or Kelly and Fisher for that matter? They're not supossed to override the coach they're supossed to get the rest of the team on board with him which they clearly failed to do.
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+2 #99 T K 2011-05-28 16:24
I think a key change occured late this past season. When Alfredsson went down, Spezza took the team on his back. Before then he was a key player but not a leader. He didn't want to step on Alfie's toes. Now it's Spezza's team.

(Alfie dealt with the exact same situation when Yashin was captain.)

I admire Alfredsson a ton but next year, Spezza should be captain.

Brind'amour did it for his team.

With all the new kids on board, Alfie should take an A, give the C to Spezz. Murray needs to bring in a coach that has 2 attributes: structure and high tempo (call it energy or enthusiasm if you prefer).

With Anderson clicking , Spezza charging full bore, Neil & Smith crashing into anything that moves and the kids energized, It'll be a fun season for all
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0 #100 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-05-28 16:26
Quoting T K:
I think a key change occured late this past season. When Alfredsson went down, Spezza took the team on his back. Before then he was a key player but not a leader. He didn't want to step on Alfie's toes. Now it's Spezza's team.

(Alfie dealt with the exact same situation when Yashin was captain.)

I admire Alfredsson a ton but next year, Spezza should be captain.

Brind'amour did it for his team.

With all the new kids on board, Alfie should take an A, give the C to Spezz. Murray needs to bring in a coach that has 2 attributes: structure and high tempo (call it energy or enthusiasm if you prefer).

With Anderson clicking , Spezza charging full bore, Neil & Smith crashing into anything that moves and the kids energized, It'll be a fun season for all


Love this post.
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0 #101 conor smythe 2011-05-28 16:33
I'm with Senseagles on this one. Clouston has shown what he can do with a team that has a goalie who is playing well (anderson/ellio t last year) and with a team that buys into his systems (the end of this season, as well as when he was first brought in as interim coach)

Lots of blame needs to go to BM for signing players who thought they already knew everything (kovalev, gonchar) and wouldn't play for their coach.

Lacklustre efforts by Phillips and Fisher were huge blows to a team that was without a number 1 goalie 80% of the time.

Clouston had problems: line juggling, line changes, never taking a time-out when he should (a skill not many coaches have mastered), goalie juggling, and refusing to sit Kovalev.

But his systems work WELL. He's not that bad, he's just a rookie coach who needed to learn lessons that only come from experience.

whoever hires him will be a lucky team if he's learned from his mistakes.
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0 #102 conor smythe 2011-05-28 16:39
I also agree with Spezza for Captain.

I don't understand this whole "you were captain last year, you're captain this year" mentality.

Every competitive sport I have ever played (hockey, lacrosse, volleyball, and soccer) has always started the season the same way: nominate 3 people to be captain, at the end of training/exhibi tions you have a vote amongst the players and staff. Coach makes the final decision.

USUALLY its the Captain from the previous year who gets the nod. But not all the time. and I garantee Spezza would win if this format was followed next season.
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0 #103 MacK 2011-05-28 16:50
@ Conor Smythe & T K

I'd agree with you if we were talking about Marleau or Luongo who clearly were not doing the best of jobs as Captains but how in the world could you question Alfie's leadership? Not only is he the longest reigning Captain in the NHL today but look at all the battles he has led us through in the past. It's an interesting take but trust me, Alfie will be our Captain until he decided to hang up the skates or move on to a contender....yo u can add a guarantee to that if you wish!
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0 #104 Senseagles47 2011-05-28 16:58
Quoting SensibleMac:
@ Conor Smythe & T K

I'd agree with you if we were talking about Marleau or Luongo who clearly were not doing the best of jobs as Captains but how in the world could you question Alfie's leadership? Not only is he the longest reigning Captain in the NHL today but look at all the battles he has led us through in the past. It's an interesting take but trust me, Alfie will be our Captain until he decided to hang up the skates or move on to a contender....you can add a guarantee to that if you wish!


With all due respect to Alfie, I feel that fans will give him credit regardless of what he does good or bad. It's almost like everyone including the media are afraid of saying something negative about him. You can't deny that he failed to rally the players in support of the coach with CC, CH and JP. You can tell with some of the interviews that he doesn't approve of what the coach preaches.
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0 #105 MacK 2011-05-28 17:09
Quoting Senseagles47:
[quote name="SensibleMac"]@ Conor Smythe & T K


With all due respect to Alfie, I feel that fans will give him credit regardless of what he does good or bad. It's almost like everyone including the media are afraid of saying something negative about him. You can't deny that he failed to rally the players in support of the coach with CC, CH and JP. You can tell with some of the interviews that he doesn't approve of what the coach preaches.


I'm not sure if CC, CH or JP's philosophies were worth rallying behind, personally. We don't know what was said in the locker room. For all we know, Alfie and other leaders on the team may have tried to rally behind the coaches. It's all speculation, really.
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-1 #106 T K 2011-05-28 17:17
I'd ccontinue to worship Alfie and celebrate all his accomplishments even if he had no letter on his jersey for the 2 to 4 years remaining in his carreer.
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0 #107 Senseagles47 2011-05-28 17:21
@Sensiblemac

CC's methods clearly worked for a while. It worked in his first year and it worked this year with the younger players. It seems that the veterans just gave up on it, we don't know what is being said in the locker room but the actions on ice speak volumes as well. Whether it's constantly benching Ruutu or Kovalev speaking out it just seems as if the veterans/leader ship on the team didn't endorse him when things started going bad.
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0 #108 conor smythe 2011-05-28 17:39
Sensiblemac,

you cant guarantee that (just like I technically can't gaurantee Spezza would get the C)

Any Coach with any kind of integrity will not inherit a Captain. Espcially not the Captain of a team that just finished in the basement of the league, who traded away a third of their roster, and a who is rebuilding into a brand new team.

It shouldn't even be a question as to whether there will be a competition for new Captaincy. It should be the first thing that is talked about on day 1 of training camp every season.

with this system, alfredsson still would have been our captain for the past 15 years. But his time is up.
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+1 #109 MoeDozer 2011-05-28 17:50
for those that are saying they want hitchcock. im sorry but no thank you, he will not allow spezza to do anything (as we saw in the world championships a few weeks ago), hitchcock did say many years ago that he can turn spezza into an yzerman type (2way forward) which obviously would be great to have. reminds me a bit of JM back in 04 and seasons before. although i know hitchcock has a very impressive coaching record although his early coaching career (dallas and philly) werent the youngest teams arround. CBJ was a pretty young team and he seemed to do a pretty good job (although in 2007 he had leclaire put up 9 SO then in 2008 mason put up 10 SO)he only had a few other key players that could score and did a good job. HOWEVER, he hasnt been "successful" in playoffs since 2000. and he has been fired 3 times in 10 years.
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+2 #110 SlickRick 2011-05-28 18:37
Any link to the game (stream)?
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0 #111 MacK 2011-05-28 18:47
Quoting conor smythe:




It shouldn't even be a question as to whether there will be a competition for new Captaincy. It should be the first thing that is talked about on day 1 of training camp every season.


It would be very interesting to see who the team would want as their captain. I agree with you there...
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+1 #112 MoeDozer 2011-05-28 19:00
Quoting SlickRick:
Any link to the game (stream)?

http://www.justin.tv/maindotc#/w/1266259408/2
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+1 #113 Floridasensfan 2011-05-28 19:15
If there were coach killers it is fair to assume they have been purged or will be purged.

On the Captain front I am all for Spezza as Captain next year but can't see it until Alfie hangs up his skates.
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+2 #114 MoeDozer 2011-05-28 19:39
stream changed to http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bingosens
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0 #115 Captain Alfie 2011-05-28 19:42
Bobby BUTLER!
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0 #116 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-05-28 20:10
Right after Murray hires a coach, he needs to resign BB16.
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0 #117 MacK 2011-05-28 20:21
Houston is doing way too good of a job of taking away our time and space. Let's hope the guys can find a way to break free in the 2nd period. GO BSENS GO!!!
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0 #118 T K 2011-05-28 20:57
Some incomprehensibl e officiating in Houston tonight...
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+1 #119 j.j.benz 2011-05-28 21:45
Does anybody else find this stream way too choppy?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bingosens
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+1 #120 MacK 2011-05-28 21:59
Quoting j.j.benz:
Does anybody else find this stream way too choppy?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bingosens


Yup, but it's better than a kick in the pants...
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0 #121 Floridasensfan 2011-05-28 22:00
what an ugly game
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0 #122 Mitchell 2011-05-28 22:13
would anyone be against giving mike comrie a shot?
i for now would like to see him on the team. i don't know what happened to him in pittsburg though
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0 #123 Floridasensfan 2011-05-28 22:13
1-1 into OT
Lehner keeping them in the game.
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0 #124 T K 2011-05-28 22:13
Too many failed chip & chase attempts... BSens getting better as the game goes on but still not getting into a groove.

Lucky saves on both ends...
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0 #125 Mitchell 2011-05-28 22:37
o'brien!!!!
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0 #126 Floridasensfan 2011-05-28 22:38
refs could not even win it for them.
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0 #127 MacK 2011-05-28 22:39
YES, O'Brien with the game winner in OT!!!
SENS WIN, YAH BABY!!!
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0 #128 Floridasensfan 2011-05-28 22:39
way to go sens
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0 #129 MacK 2011-05-28 22:40
Did the commentator just say, "That was a horrible overtime goal, Mike" when he thought he was off air?
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0 #130 sensarmy 2011-05-28 22:42
Lehner MVP
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0 #131 MacK 2011-05-28 22:42
I didn't think the sens were going to pull this one out. They are going to have to work on some stuff going into game 3.
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0 #132 SIMMAN 2011-05-28 22:52
Grady was saying his goal call was lousy - not the goal itself
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0 #133 SIMMAN 2011-05-28 22:53
A good split for the Sens with hot temps in Houston, bad ice and rust coming off of a big break. They have not played well but we'll see what they do back home.
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0 #134 MacK 2011-05-28 22:58
Quoting SIMMAN:
Grady was saying his goal call was lousy - not the goal itself


Ok, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying.
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0 #135 Yann 2011-05-28 23:37
Folks were going to Binghamton for game 5, Here we come!!
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0 #136 Sandy 2011-05-29 07:25
Quoting Mitchell:
would anyone be against giving mike comrie a shot?
i for now would like to see him on the team. i don't know what happened to him in pittsburg though


He had hip surgery....
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0 #137 Mitchell 2011-05-29 09:43
Well we can worry a little less about a jam in the forward position next year as Jakob Silfverberg has decided to stay another season with his current team in Sweden.

Source (Twitter)
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