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Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:39

Sens Have 6th Pick

Just like everything else this season, the bouncing lottery ball did not fall the Sens way tonight as the New Jersey Devils won the Draft Lottery, dropping the Ottawa Senators in the draft order.

The Ottawa Senators will select 6th, unless they make a deal to move up.

With the Devils winning the lottery, the Oilers retain the first overall pick in the draft in June. A disappointing result for Sens fans but certainly not something to panic over. The Senators have the assets to move up should they chose to do so, and if they don't, it still looks like they will get one of the forwards we have talked about over the course of the season.

Here is a look at the North American skater ratings that were released the other day.

1 NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN WHL 04/12/93 6' 0.5" 164 C 69 31 75 106 51
2 LANDESKOG, GABRIEL OHL 11/23/92 6' 0.5" 207 LW 53 36 30 66 61
3 HUBERDEAU, JONATHAN QMJHL 06/04/93 6' 1.25" 170 C 67 43 62 105 88
4 HAMILTON, DOUGIE OHL 06/17/93 6' 4.25" 187 D 67 12 46 58 77
5 BEAULIEU, NATHAN QMJHL 12/05/92 6' 1.75" 174 D 65 12 33 45 52
6 COUTURIER, SEAN QMJHL 12/07/92 6' 4" 197 C 58 36 60 96 36
7 BAERTSCHI, SVEN WHL 10/05/92 5' 10" 181 LW 66 34 51 85 74
8 STROME, RYAN OHL 07/11/93 6' 0" 175 C 65 33 73 106 82
9 MURPHY, RYAN OHL 03/31/93 5' 10.5" 166 D 63 26 53 79 36
10 SIEMENS, DUNCAN WHL 09/07/93 6' 2.5" 192 D 72 5 38 43 121
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0 #1 Robert 2011-04-12 19:41
Balls...
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+4 #2 Canuck Abroad 2011-04-12 19:44
I believe based on bob mckenzies rankings we will get either couturier or strome... And neither one of those would be a loss...
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0 #3 oakster15 2011-04-12 19:45
damn it. So I know Chirp mentioned a while back Murray was high on Strome. Yet he is ranked a bit lower than expected. What are his downsides supposed to be?
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+1 #4 Flash 2011-04-12 19:45
At least one more seeason of "Oil Change" I guess.
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0 #5 Tcharger 2011-04-12 19:46
uggg I am so pissed. This was one thing i genuinely wanted to be wrong about.
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-1 #6 A Train 2011-04-12 19:47
Alright...shaki ng it off, moving on.

1. Chirp, not sure what you've heard on this yet. Will the Sens try to trade up or do they think there's a guy projected 6 they want?

2. Did anyone else think B-Murr was a bit of a spazz tonight? All of the other GMs gave nothing away, then Murray goes and admits there are 5-6 guys the Sens like but yes there is one guy in particular they really want.
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0 #7 Fish 2011-04-12 19:48
Hate to say it but I didn't think our luck would suddenly change. BM looked disappointed...

Couturier would be nice, big kid already and will only get bigger.
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0 #8 Miggs 2011-04-12 19:48
Come on Murray, trade up and get Landeskog!
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0 #9 Tcharger 2011-04-12 19:49
cuturier is my second pick behing landeskog
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-1 #10 Miggs 2011-04-12 19:51
thats sucks donkey balls, nobody in NJ cares about hockey. Why couldnt clouston sit out Anderson for thast 5 games?
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-2 #11 WhoIsUsingMyName? 2011-04-12 19:51
Quoting oakster15:
damn it. So I know Chirp mentioned a while back Murray was high on Strome. Yet he is ranked a bit lower than expected. What are his downsides supposed to be?


Size has to be one. When they list 6' tall you know they actually mean 5'10"... Hopefully Couturier is still available at the 6th pick.

So all the people who were happy about that pointless run at the end of the season, do you think it was worth it after the terrible season the team had? To move up Murray is going to need to give up a good asset.
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-1 #12 rod 2011-04-12 19:51
Can we all stop kidding ourselves. The optimism is killing me. Those last few wins really cost us big time.
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0 #13 KGV 2011-04-12 19:52
Wow! The team that deserved it the least walked away winning the lottery. New Jersey spends most of last off-season trying to sign a guy that doesn't seem to fit their defensive system and get away with having the last contract that extends to the day the player dies and now wins the lottery.

This is a sad day for almost any hockey fan with the exception of NJ fans, of course.
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+3 #14 Miggs 2011-04-12 19:54
Quoting KGV:

This is a sad day for almost any hockey fan with the exception of NJ fans, of course.


Yeah, all 10 of them ...
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+2 #15 Flash 2011-04-12 19:54
Quoting A Train:
Alright...shaking it off, moving on.

2. Did anyone else think B-Murr was a bit of a spazz tonight? All of the other GMs gave nothing away, then Murray goes and admits there are 5-6 guys the Sens like but yes there is one guy in particular they really want.


Maybe, but it's not like he told anyone anything that wasn't common knowledge. I'm sure all GMs have a few guys in mind and one or two players in particular that they'd really like.

Now if he said we really like that Landeskog kid, there may be reason to worry.
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+4 #16 McLovin 2011-04-12 19:57
They'll get a good pick at 6..

RNH is lanky, Landeskog is dominating junior cause he's in a man's frame (210 lbs) and I don't see him doing AS well in the show...

Strome and Huberdeau are 2 of the youngest players in the draft and will need an extra yr in jr, and Couturier played in the WJC.

We'll get a good player here!
I'd rather Murray move up the Nashville pick, or their own 2nd to get a 3rd 1st rounder (perhaps Olecsiak, McNeil or Scheifele)
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0 #17 A Train 2011-04-12 19:58
Quoting Flash:
Quoting A Train:
Alright...shaking it off, moving on.

2. Did anyone else think B-Murr was a bit of a spazz tonight? All of the other GMs gave nothing away, then Murray goes and admits there are 5-6 guys the Sens like but yes there is one guy in particular they really want.


Maybe, but it's not like he told anyone anything that wasn't common knowledge. I'm sure all GMs have a few guys in mind and one or two players in particular that they'd really like.

Now if he said we really like that Landeskog kid, there may be reason to worry.


He's gonna need to be savvy in the months ahead. Didn't seem that way to me tonight.
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+1 #18 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-04-12 19:58
Sens have absolutely NO luck.

NJ was the 8th lowest team. EIGHTH. THAT'S 3.6 PERCENT.

Goodness.
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+4 #19 Overmind 2011-04-12 20:00
i am now convinced that the lottery is rigged by bettman and his cronies..
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+1 #20 ZackSmith15 2011-04-12 20:00
Fitting end to the season from hell.
First the team loses when you want it to win. Then the team starts winning when you want it to lose.
At least we now have a bonafide #1 goalie. Plus, Melnyk and upper management finally realized that this team needs significant work before we can compete for the Cup.
Hopefully Murray can pull off some drafting magic and land 1 or 2 top 3 forwards.
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-1 #21 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-04-12 20:00
1 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins..EDM
2 Gabriel Landeskog..COL
3 Adam Larsson.>FLA
4 Jonathan Huberdeau>>>NJ
5 Dougie Hamilton>>NYI
6 Sean Couturier>>SENS

Fits everyones needs Snow wants a big Dmen ( no bigger then Hamilton) Nj needs (C) Zajic with parise and Huberdeau for Kovy. Col gets a forsberg LW in landeskog..

Maybe there could be a deal with FLA ..What do you think Chirp ???
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+2 #22 CohMa 2011-04-12 20:01
It friggin' figures..... We better at least get Strome. I think his stock has gone down a bit, since his play in playoffs hasn't been great.
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0 #23 WhoIsUsingMyName? 2011-04-12 20:02
Quoting A Train:


He's gonna need to be savvy in the months ahead. Didn't seem that way to me tonight.


How do you figure? He didn't mention which player he had in mind. Are you worried the player he eventually picks will have his feelings hurt? These kids are already ranked so it should come as no surprise to them if teams prefer other players.
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+6 #24 Conspiracy Theorist 2011-04-12 20:02
Can anyone explain to me why the league refuses to broadcast the actual lottery balls being picked and showing the number combinations for each team? You would think in the spirit of transparency and the pure drama, showing the numbers coming up and allowing people to check their team's numbers (like a lottery ticket) would be quite exciting, as opposed to Daly's lame envelope ceremony.

Can't say I am surprised that the largest US market with best potential revenue upside from the buzz of a top pick would win (a la Chicago a few years back). I certainly can understand why Atlanta or Columbus did not move up - small market teams with no huge upside.

I vote for full disclosure.
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+1 #25 Flash 2011-04-12 20:03
Falling down the list is disappointing, but I can't wait for the draft now. In the meantime, the play-offs should be enough to keep me entertained.

Vancouver - Boston for the cup!
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0 #26 mike fig 2011-04-12 20:04
Oh **** that. You know what? Go back the last 6 years and count how many lotto selections the NYI COL FLO have had. Then add how many were also in the 6-10 range. AND THOSE TEAMS STILL SUCK. Here is how it works folks. Those 3 teams cant sell tickets. So you honestly think this draft is ANYTHING but rigged? We dont even get to see the draw. They just show a ball machine and then comes out with 5 envelopes. NJ cant sell tickets and are going to lose Parise soon after Brodeur and FALL APART. So the nhl gives them a hand out. It all worked out perfectly. Oilers had the odds so they keep the pick (making it seem legit), Col Flo NYI all get LOTTO PICKS AGAIN!!!! NJ gets a handout, so who loses? Oh right the team that tried hard to win and CAN SELL TICKETS...WHAT A SURPRISE...DISG USTING
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+2 #27 gauts26 2011-04-12 20:05
everyone stop freaking out.
look at what happended last year, the best player to come out of the draft was Skinner @ #7, Cam Fowler @#12

we are @ 6 and im thinking New Jersey, New York will grab a D-men.
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+4 #28 NickG 2011-04-12 20:06
I'm curious as to how the lottery is actually done. They showed the 10 or so balls in the air chamber.

Um... How can you get a 48.7% chance (or whatever Edmonton had) with only 10 balls.
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+1 #29 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-04-12 20:06
Either way we're getting a good player.

Actually, the 6th recruit according to Central Scouting is Sean Couturier, who is probably the most NHL ready in the top ten, given his age and his experience.

So, if we do draft him, it isn't a loss. We get a guy who meets our expectations of bringing in someone who can very well start next season and fills the void down the middle.

If we don't get SC, big deal we draft Ryan Strome. Anyway you look at it, we are getting a player who will help this franchise either next season [SC], or in a year.
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+1 #30 mike fig 2011-04-12 20:06
NOW I JUST HOPE TO GOD THAT RYAN STROME IS AVAILABLE FOR US TO PICK at 6th. I DONT WANT POTENTIAL BUSTS in Courturier and Huberdeauh.

TO answer the question about STROME. He isnt small anymore, check ohl website 6 foot 1, 183 Lbs.

He is BETTER than Courturier and Huberdeau by far. I hope to god other teams dont know that.
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+1 #31 Cams 2011-04-12 20:07
Thoughts on this:

We give up our late 1st and a 2nd (throw in a Regin if needed) to get a second or third pick. We then would get 2/3 and 6th pick. Not bad for a rebuild year if you ask me.
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-6 #32 gauts26 2011-04-12 20:07
Edmonton - Larsson
Colorado - landeskog
Florida - Nugent-Hopkins
New Jersey - Murphy
New York - Hamilton
Ottawa - Huberdeau
Atlanta - Couturier
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+5 #33 SensChirp 2011-04-12 20:08
Murray was just on the Team1200 apparently and said moving up to #3 could be a possibility.
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+3 #34 THEBLACKTERROR 2011-04-12 20:09
Seriously people, what's with the tears?

I don't f'ing get some of you.

So they didn't get 1st overall. Wahhhhh. Are we done crying yet?

What is the difference really between 5th and 6th? Since just about everyone here had a hard-on for Landeskog (and I can't exactly figure out why, he had the worst stats of all the ranked forwards), they weren't going to move into a position to draft him unless they got 1st. So there's little to no difference between 5th and 6th.

If Murray really wants Landeskog, and he's available when Florida picks, then maybe he can package up #6 along with someone like Regin to move up to #3.

There's possibilities here, but the only thing that makes no sense is feeling sorry for ourselves because of what has happened.

Take a moment, utter a single curse word, now move on.
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-3 #35 gauts26 2011-04-12 20:10
Quoting SensChirp:
Murray was just on the Team1200 apparently and said moving up to #3 could be a possibility.



I think if Landeskog is still available @#3, i can see murray package both 1th round picks for Florida pick.
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+3 #36 oakster15 2011-04-12 20:10
Couturier - was slated to be the top pick earlier on in the year but lost worth based on players like Larsson, RNH, and Landeskog having outstanding years. He still had a very respectable 106 points, which is consistent with what he got last year. Also, he was the only draft eligible player to make the highly touted positions on team Canada. Will be great

Strome - Murray likes this guy. He has tremendous hands and can dangle with the best of them. He got 106 points in the OHL and will be no slouch in the NHL. He put on weight last summer, and will continue to develop over time. I hate to be this guy, but i'm related to someone high up in the OHL who says Strome is amazing and can dangle with the best of them
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-2 #37 A Train 2011-04-12 20:11
Quoting WhoIsUsingMyName?:
Quoting A Train:


He's gonna need to be savvy in the months ahead. Didn't seem that way to me tonight.


How do you figure? He didn't mention which player he had in mind. Are you worried the player he eventually picks will have his feelings hurt? These kids are already ranked so it should come as no surprise to them if teams prefer other players.


Oh it's not the players I'm worried about, it's the other GMs. Look, I'm not saying he really screwed up, I'm just saying it doesn't help any negotiations with other GMs in the future when you're the only one to admit on national tv that there is ONE player you really want.
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-3 #38 bodyczech 2011-04-12 20:12
Time to package the 6th overall pic and get Parise out of NJ.
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+1 #39 HKYcountry 2011-04-12 20:18
I don't see Murray making a deal to move up. Outside of RNH I don't think anyone on Ottawa's list is worth moving a valuable asset for.

It SUCKS that we got bumped to the 6th pick, but it's not like there aren't players that the Sens fans or Organization like that are projected to go around there. HUBERDEAU is still a possibility (long shot though) But one of Couturier and STROME are likely going to be available.

I think you may see Murray grab STROME with our 6th and ZIBANEJAD with our pick from Nash OR Couturier with our 6th and Peumpel with our pick from Nash.

The fact is Strome or Couturier with our 6th pick is pretty damn good....and the measure of success for Ottawa in this draft is how they manage their other picks for this years draft.

@bodyczech

There is no trading for Parise......the only way the Sens are getting him is via a HUGE RFA offer sheet.
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+2 #40 A Train 2011-04-12 20:18
Quoting SensChirp:
Murray was just on the Team1200 apparently and said moving up to #3 could be a possibility.


Interesting depending on what we have to give up. I know this isn't popular, but I kinda feel like Michalek -- though he is skilled -- is never gonna help us win much. Is he the guy we package to move up and grab Skog...and is it worth it?
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0 #41 TKM18 2011-04-12 20:18
Lots of whining about a pick could either turn out to be garbage or better than all of the 5 picks before it. If you're picking top 10, you'll usually get a decent player. Not always, but usually. There was no stud this year so not being the top pick is no big disaster. Of course it doesn't surprise me after this season that out of all the outcomes Ottawa getting bumped down is what happened. 17.2% chance of that happening. To all those who claim the draft is rigged... really? Then why would New Jersey, a team the NHL had major issues with last year, win? If anything they would have had one of their shit southern teams like Florida or Atlanta win.
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0 #42 A Train 2011-04-12 20:20
Quoting HKYcountry:

I think you may see Murray grab STROME with our 6th and ZIBANEJAD with our pick from Nash OR Couturier with our 6th and Peumpel with our pick from Nash.


Doesn't sound like either will be available when we select with NSH pick.
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+2 #43 Fish 2011-04-12 20:20
Quoting A Train:
Oh it's not the players I'm worried about, it's the other GMs. Look, I'm not saying he really screwed up, I'm just saying it doesn't help any negotiations with other GMs in the future when you're the only one to admit on national tv that there is ONE player you really want.


Really this worries you? Did all 29 other GMs just fall off the apple cart? They all know that every GM out there has 1 guy at the top of the list, that's the reason for having a list you start with your favorite and work your way down. No shocker here.
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0 #44 boom 2011-04-12 20:21
@TKM18

Don't get these conspiracy theorists going...they really need to give their collective heads a shake...
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+2 #45 fisher12fan 2011-04-12 20:22
I was ALL EXCITED when they showed the NYI sign and then... A SLAP FROM GOD! OUCH was I excited for nothing LOL. The draft is pretty good this year so one way or the other we are still winners on the end of the line, I rather have Anderson and a 6th pick overall then a 3rd pick overall....
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-1 #46 A Train 2011-04-12 20:22
Quoting Fish:
Quoting A Train:
Oh it's not the players I'm worried about, it's the other GMs. Look, I'm not saying he really screwed up, I'm just saying it doesn't help any negotiations with other GMs in the future when you're the only one to admit on national tv that there is ONE player you really want.


Really this worries you? Did all 29 other GMs just fall off the apple cart? They all know that every GM out there has 1 guy at the top of the list, that's the reason for having a list you start with your favorite and work your way down. No shocker here.


Yeah, it does. Would rather see Murray play it close. Ever read this book?:

http://www.amazon.com/Moneyball-Art-Winning-Unfair-Game/dp/0393324818/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302657657&sr=8-1

Tonight he reminded me of Omar Minaya.
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+2 #47 Timic 2011-04-12 20:22
Meh, I wanted Strome anyway. Curtourier and Landeskog don't do it for me. RNH & Larsson go 1 &2. I hope there is no trading up for Landeskog. And who cares what Murray admits if he wants one guy. When he phones the other GMs to try and trade up, they're going to figure that out. I think it's a smoke screen anyway. I think he likes Strome and people assume its Landeskog.
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0 #48 ksensfan 2011-04-12 20:23
Well BM knows who they want and will do what it takes to meke it happen, sucks that it is going to cost us for it though.
doubt there is any chance we get who they want at 6th thats for sure.

It is what it is I guess.
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0 #49 Sens1963 2011-04-12 20:25
We are looking for a strong 2nd line centre aren't we? Couturier would fit that bill nicely ( skill, size and speed)
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-4 #50 TheTyrantWee 2011-04-12 20:26
I feel pretty strongly the Devils will take a defender. Problem is though they don't have #1 center so I can very easily see them going with Couturier. Ottawa shot themselves in the foot at the end of the year. I bet all you idiots thinking those meaningless wins were so great are kicking ourselves now. Ottawa now gets whats left. The runt of the litter. We should have been picking 3rd. FML.
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+2 #51 boom 2011-04-12 20:30
fisher12fan raises a good point. If we agree that, if not for the Anderson trade, we would have finished alot lower in the standings, then we have to look at the trade as Anderson and a 6th for Elliot and a 3rd, right?
I take that deal anytime...
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0 #52 McLovin 2011-04-12 20:31
Now to cheer for the Sabres, Rangers, Hawks and Yotes making it to the conf finals so the Nash pick is better! haha ..

PS I left the habs off there on purpose
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0 #53 Dorkiewicz 2011-04-12 20:32
Every GM has to have a top target and I don't think Murray saying so reveals anything that to our detriment.

I suspect it's not worthwhile to move up because there'll still be 2-3 great prospects at 6th no matter how you slice it and because it would probably cost us more than a rebuilding team should part with.

Like at least a few others here, my guess is Murray wants Landeskog.

I can't imagine a trade for the pick as opposed to an upgrade package, so what do people feel would be a reasonable deal (ie one I won't immediately shit on because it's obviously a better deal for the Sens) to move up?

Please note our pick plus Kuba actually moves us down ;)
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-2 #54 WhoIsUsingMyName? 2011-04-12 20:35
Quoting fisher12fan:
I was ALL EXCITED when they showed the NYI sign and then... A SLAP FROM GOD! OUCH was I excited for nothing LOL. The draft is pretty good this year so one way or the other we are still winners on the end of the line, I rather have Anderson and a 6th pick overall then a 3rd pick overall....


Agreed but having Anderson warm the bench after he was signed would have been even better....
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0 #55 Dorkiewicz 2011-04-12 20:37
Quoting A Train:
Interesting depending on what we have to give up. I know this isn't popular, but I kinda feel like Michalek -- though he is skilled -- is never gonna help us win much. Is he the guy we package to move up and grab Skog...and is it worth it?


To me, this is the kind of thing I would avoid, and I assume Murray would too. If Fisher can be traded for a first rounder, then Michalek is worth one as well.

Way too high a price tag for a draft with one distinct prized target.
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+1 #56 Johne 2011-04-12 20:41
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - GM Bryan Murray said he'll definitely try to move up in the draft. GM's in Florida, New Jersey and Long Island can expect a call. #sens
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0 #57 KJ-Sens 2011-04-12 20:42
We still have a second pick in the top 20. Think of it like this:

Sens take Courterier at 6th, and we trade up using Nashville's pick, and get Strome, or Huberdeau as well...

Not bad. Since it is unlikely we can deal for top 1 or 2, even with our defensive depth, I expect we move up with Nashville's pick, instead of moving up to get Landeskog, even though it is known Sens like him.

KJ
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+1 #58 A Train 2011-04-12 20:43
Quoting Dorkiewicz:


Like at least a few others here, my guess is Murray wants Landeskog.

I can't imagine a trade for the pick as opposed to an upgrade package, so what do people feel would be a reasonable deal (ie one I won't immediately shit on because it's obviously a better deal for the Sens) to move up?

Please note our pick plus Kuba actually moves us down ;)


If Florida's the partner here, not sure what they need. I would think Michalek's the biggest asset we could package with a pick (or two). What's the least we could realistically give up though? Weircoch? Lee?
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+2 #59 Dorkiewicz 2011-04-12 20:43
Quoting fisher12fan:
I('d) rather have Anderson and a 6th pick overall then a 3rd pick overall....


Well put! Good perspective. Should shut up an awful lot of whiners too!
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0 #60 Johne 2011-04-12 20:46
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Murray said he doesn't believe Edmonton and Colorado are open for business. Sherman shouldn't do any more business with Murray.
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - See Brian Elliott for details if you're wondering why sherman shouldn't make another trade with ottawa. #sens
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-1 #61 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-04-12 20:48
using nashville's pick to trade up will be great.

nashville's first and regin?
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0 #62 TheTyrantWee 2011-04-12 20:49
Except that it's completely retarded. You realize Anderson signed his contract ages ago right. We could have had both Anderson and a top 3 pick had we just sat him down like an intelligent franchise. There is no way our backup playing all those games wouldn't have lost us at least 3-4 more contests down the stretch.

I'm thinking it will go:
1. RNH
2. Larsson
3. Landeskog

After that Devils have all the power. Hamilton/Coutur ier/Huberdeau. Whoever they take controls who we get. If Florida and Jersey both pick centers Ottawa will either have to gamble on Strome or take the better prospect in Dougie Hamilton. Not a position I want the team to be in. Just pray that someone takes Hamilton before 6th and everything stays the same as if we were picking 5th.
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0 #63 A Train 2011-04-12 20:50
Quoting Dorkiewicz:
Quoting fisher12fan:
I('d) rather have Anderson and a 6th pick overall then a 3rd pick overall....


Well put! Good perspective. Should shut up an awful lot of whiners too!

Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
using nashville's pick to trade up will be great.

nashville's first and regin?


I'd do it for a top three. But if you were Florida, would you?
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+1 #64 TheTyrantWee 2011-04-12 20:50
Just cross your fingers that in some sort of ultimate Karma Ottawa's pick at 6th ends up being the best in the draft. I think it's completely possible that will be the case. Especially if fools pass on Couturier's size and skill set. He's going to be so much better than people think.
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+2 #65 senskarlsson57 2011-04-12 20:50
holy shit guys...stop whining! we already got a gem in Mark Stone! the guy has the same amount of points as RNH (106), playing in the same league, and we got him in the 6TH ROUND!!(alfie anyone?) Plus we will probably get another stud O-Man with our sixth(i like strome), and another one with our Nashville pick! Don't worry...we're in great shape and things are looking up!
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+1 #66 WhoIsUsingMyName? 2011-04-12 21:02
Quoting TheTyrantWee:
Just cross your fingers that in some sort of ultimate Karma Ottawa's pick at 6th ends up being the best in the draft. I think it's completely possible that will be the case. Especially if fools pass on Couturier's size and skill set. He's going to be so much better than people think.


Right. I've only seen Couturier play a couple of times but for some reason I keep thinking of Getzlaf who was tall and really lanky but has turned into a bruiser after he figured out how to use his size. I think of COuturier being a little less physical with maybe a little more scoring upside.
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0 #67 HKYcountry 2011-04-12 21:03
@senskarlsson57


That's the attitude more of us need to adopt. We are rebuilding - but I look at it more like re-tooling. Personally I have the attitude that Melnyk does and think that this is going to be a turn around more like what Philly did a few years ago vs what EDM is in the process of. We have quite a few diamonds in the rough that few people talk about/know about....with our picks this year we will be poised to really push this rebuild/re-tool forward.

I will go so far as to say that contrary to what many Leaf fans may think, the Sens will make the playoffs again, before the LEafs do or at the vary least at the same time the Leafs FINALLY qualify for the playoffs again.
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-3 #68 TheTyrantWee 2011-04-12 21:06
There is good reason to be upset. Rebuilds work much better when a team possesses multiple 1st or 2nd overall picks throughout the process. Edmonton is doing it right. They tanked and we decided to win valueless games. Edmonton will have a Stanley Cup contender because of the amount of elite talent they'll have all together at the same time. The difference between rebuilds that work and rebuilds that fail is getting multiple 1st/2nd overall picks versus getting a bunch of picks 4th-10th. You know what we'll be if we pick 7th-10th the next three years. We'll be a shitty team just like Florida that regularly challenges for 9th place but never really gets anywhere. It is extremely important to get the elite stars from the draft. It's much harder to do that outside of the top two picks.
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0 #69 big_red_brandon 2011-04-12 21:09
i agree with sens karlsson57 .... we've got lots of good things coming up.. and lots of guys under contract that won't fit (ie. Regin) worst case scenario we have strome and another top 20 pick.. and mark stone!

the future is bright so let's stay positive !!!
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-6 #70 TheTyrantWee 2011-04-12 21:10
So just for comparisons sake:
9th - Lee
9th - Cowen
6th - Strome

vs.
1st - Hall
2nd - Larsson
1st - Tavares

Which team would you rather be? That's the difference between picking 1st/2nd multiple times and drafting 5th-10th multiple times. Pretty hard to rebuild around 5th-10th overall picks. They often make nice complimentary pieces but you rarely get a star.
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+3 #71 senskarlsson57 2011-04-12 21:18
@thetyrantwee

how about you add karlsson in there instead of lee, then we can talk...and how do you know that strome is not going to be better than tavares and hall? Neither of them have proven anything in the NHL yet, they aren't dominating (like stamkos) like they should be. now try this.


9th-Cowen (projected as top 3, and we havn't seen him play yet)
7th-Skinner
15th- Karlsson

Now who do u like?
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0 #72 fisher12fan 2011-04-12 21:21
Okay people need to stop whining lol 1.2.3.4. are pretty solid to me at who it will be
1. RNH
2.Larsson
3.Land
4. Huberdeau

I assume Hamilton will go 5th SO Strome and Couturier are left.

Out of those 2 I would take Couturier since he can move to play to LW like he did before being a Center man if I'm not mistaken. But you Never know Maybe a Guy like Huberdeau will slip to 6th just like Cam Fowler did with Anaheim so I'm not really worried every GM and organization have different scouts which means different point of views...
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+3 #73 Jani Hurme 2011-04-12 21:27
Stop whining about not tanking. Ottawa still has 6 of the first 66 picks in the draft. I think we'll survive.
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+1 #74 MoeDozer 2011-04-12 22:02
for those of you asking why Strome is ranked lower than Couturier and Huberdeau. its mainly because if you watch strome play. most of the game he is invisible except when he has the puck in the offencive zone, i.e he is known as a 1-dimensional player. the others are more of 2-way players, and those are way more valuable players in the NHL today.
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+1 #75 McLovin 2011-04-12 22:04
the team 1200 is broadcasting bingo playoff games

http://www.binghamtonsenators.com/news/topnews/index.html?article_id=1036
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+1 #76 Sandy 2011-04-12 22:05
I can't believe that the hockey gods hate the Sens that much. How much bad luck can this team have? It's almost laughable. I was over at a friends. Lots of wine to celebrate. Then to see the Islanders @ 5th thinking OMG the Sens have 1st. Then see NJD you get 4th you have to be kidding me. How much bad luck can this team have? Someone really hates this team that much. Get real -- 6th place? This is not even funny. It's brutal. It has to be fixed. NJ had less of a chance than Ottawa to win that lottery. I really could not believe it. Okay, calm down Sandy. Too much wine. Too pissed off.
Saw a snippet of Couterier. Okay that guy is huge. How has he fallen to 5th/6th. How good can he be in the NHL. Spezza is 6 ft 3 but is not Ryan Getzlaf.He is coming into his own.
What can Couterier turn into at 6 ft 4. Hhow good can he e. He is big but is he any good.
If Murray wants Landeskog -- who & want will he trade to move up. Any suggestions.
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-1 #77 Prime 2011-04-12 22:10
People who think the lottery is fixed needs to stop drinking.
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+2 #78 EMG 2011-04-12 22:12
So murray admited to try to move up. The only asset we have that i'd be ok to trade would be wiercoch. I have a feeling nj or nyi would go for that but not fla. The fla pick would be tougher to get.
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-6 #79 EMG 2011-04-12 22:17
Cowen plus 21st for jersey's 4th pick? We'd get 4th and 6th
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-1 #80 rpow 2011-04-12 22:31
its all about the butts in the seats NJ had real low numbers this year the Sens had very good numbers, this is why betmen picks the winners in a private office, Murray was hopping for more after all we are hosting the All star game. what a year DAM
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+1 #81 Rundbladsson 2011-04-12 22:35
Hooollllyyyyyyy y, a lot of needless panic. Chill folks... This does not nulify any chance we have next season lol, or indicate in anyway that next season will repeat this past one.

I was just as pissed as everyone else when I seen Daly pull out the Devils at #4, ESPECIALLY since they are coming off all that circumvention business, that itself should have eliminated their chance of being part of the lottery, GM's should file a frickin appeal

Anyway, As previously stated Skinner was picked 7. You never know, I personally was shocked Skinner went 7th. If Murray wants Landeskog, he'll get him. Michalek is the first to go on my list so we can move up, and a team in the lower 3 or 4 of the league will bite, and we'll never see an attempt at Michalek/Spezza again, for that I'd definitely thank god. If not Michalek DAMN!!! but we have pieces to move up. It's not the end of the world.
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0 #82 Rundbladsson 2011-04-12 22:43
Michalek/1st to Florida for Bergfors/1st
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+1 #83 SkipOPot2Mus 2011-04-12 23:09
I admit at first i was very angry with the result but the more i think of it i know well get a solid player. Just was really hoping we would see landeskog in a SENS uniform next season. :(
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0 #84 Sandy 2011-04-12 23:13
Quoting Prime:
People who think the lottery is fixed needs to stop drinking.


You maybe be right.. but how does a team with a 3% chance win a lottery against 7 teams with better odds in front of them.
The hockey gods hate the Sens.. it has to be that way... there is no other explanation.

The only other option if the Sens want Landeskog is to move up... but other than Michalek, I don't want to move him.. who can they deal with and what can they move.

Will Dale Tallon do a trade down if one of the two players he wanted are gone?
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-1 #85 Andrews Theory 2011-04-12 23:54
forget packaging michalek and our first. that is plain stupid. michalek is worth a first on his own let alone throwing in a top 10. add to that he`s one of our only proven top 6 players<

you want a higher pick, move cowen to give us 3 first rounders...im sure he`s worth a top 5 at this point given he`s ready next year.
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0 #86 Mr. Anderson 2011-04-12 23:54
Well that could not have gone any shittier however we will still get a good player just got to hope one or two teams infront of us take a chance on some of the highly rated defenseman.

Right I see it going as this but again I'm just a hockey fan like everyone else here so feel free to tell me if I'm way off base.

Edmonton - C/D Obviously this will be RNH or Larsson
Colorado - W/D Will be either Larsson or Landeskog
Florida - everywhere Has a ton a holes they need filled a real wild care
New Jersey - C/D would probably like a two way center to play with Kovalchuk for the next billion year or a d to fit their system better.
NYI - D I see them going after a defensman that's their biggest need I think right now.
Ottawa - C/W obviously we'll have to pick from who's left hopefully all goes well and we end up with one of Strome, Coutier or Huberdeau
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+1 #87 AlfieforMayor11 2011-04-13 00:27
What a bunch of asses some of you guys are tonight. The shit isn't fixed so quit crying about all your conspiracy theories. Wherever we end up drafting, whether it's 6th or we move up or down, I trust that we'll end up with one hell a prospect.

So quit your damn whining. Some of you sound like such bitches and it's embarrassing to our fanbase haha
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0 #88 MehadiK 2011-04-13 00:41
to those that don't believe the draft is fixed tell me how the year pittsburg is talking about relocating because the city wouldnt build a new stadium and in a sweepstakes where 30 teams each had a shot at crosby that pitts gets him... just something to think about
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0 #89 MehadiK 2011-04-13 00:43
i'm not hating cause i think the 6th spot is solid and we cud even move up but what a dag; when i seen NYislanders at #5 i falsely hoped we got lucky
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0 #90 Spatch 2011-04-13 01:50
I will freely admit that I was shocked to see New Jersey appear at #4. To be honest, I thought it was going to be us at #4. Heck, even after Jersey landed their spot I thought "hey, maybe we'll magically appear at #2? a miracle perhaps??".

Ah no. It was nice to temporarily be in a fantasy land however.

Anyways, we should be OK. If Coturier slips to 6th or we select Strome I'll be happy.
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+2 #91 Spatch 2011-04-13 01:51
And for whoever said they weren't impressed w/Landeskog's numbers this year, there's a reason. He was injured for the most part of the season apparently. When I saw him play against the London Knights at the last Knights home game of the season I was impressed with him.

Also - for the folks who are ticked about us not tanking. Why would players want to tank or much less even not try? The reputation of not only yourself as a player (which most of which the "kids" are fighting/auditi oning for jobs next year) is on the line but the reputation of your entire organization is on the line as well. I was impressed and liked what I saw and I'd sooner have prefered to have players that care and show pride and if they do lose, do it going down swinging all the way.

Just my thoughts! :)
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-1 #92 TheTyrantWee 2011-04-13 02:46
In terms of being fixed I highly doubt the NHL who took away a New Jersey 1st as a penalty for signing Kovulchuk would care whether they pick 8th or 4th. I mean it's just ridiculous to even suggest it. If the NHL was desperately trying to help Jersey (who had one of the best records in the NHL in the second half) they wouldn't have been penalized for the Kovulchuk deal at all. Just a completely idiotic suggestion from people who are upset that we lost the lottery. A 17.2% is almost 1/5. There was always a decent chance we would get screwed, and we did. It sucks but that's life. If you want to blame someone blame the team for not benching Anderson after we signed him. If we did we'd be drafting 3rd.
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0 #93 Dorkiewicz 2011-04-13 03:01
All this conspiracy shit and stuff about who 'deserved' the pick is unbelievable. What is going on here?

It's hard to 'deserve' a first overall selection... you usually get to that place by sucking the hardest. This idea that "Ottawa was TRYING but FLA, EDM, COL and NYI were all just tanking" is stupid.

Does anybody here really think Anderson would have wanted to sign here and been so HAPPY to sign here if we just benched him as soon as he got here?!?!

Would also wager large amounts of $ that there would be absolutely no conspiracy or unfairness talk if we had gotten the #1 pick, even though it was only 8.1% ;D

Honestly I expect more from Senschirp readers.
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+1 #94 Dorkiewicz 2011-04-13 03:06
I'm skeptical about Anderson too, but I think that's just a reflex I have as a Sens fan - very natural, I think we could all agree.

However, the more I read about Anderson, the more I feel like he was just unhappy with his situation in Colorado and had a bad year. Now he has a decent length contract, a solid #1 status as a cornerstone of a team and seems to be having a lot of fun on top of it, which is a big deal.

We'll get a good prospect and Murray will make a move or two over the summer. Partway into next season, all this concern with the last 20 games of our season will be a faint blip.
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0 #95 Tcharger 2011-04-13 04:53
Holy crap...a lot of us disagree fairly often, and sometimes get a little bit too heated. But holy shit I think we can agree that these "Elvis Lives,9/11 was an inside job/the lottery is rigged" idiots have taken it to a whole new level of idiot.

Come on Chirp....give us some sort of rumour or something so we don't need to listen to 3 months of this crap.
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+2 #96 Animal_Allen 2011-04-13 06:02
I sure as hell hope we don't do something stupid like trade up, especially at the cost of a valuable asset.

My picks for the first round? Strome and Puempel. We need more players with high offensive upside. Murray is good at getting NHL quality grinders and checkers through NCAA or free agency.

I just don't think any of the people being taken above us are worth the cost to upgrade the pick. The difference in stats and skill are negligible.

The major downside for Strome is that he has developing to do still. Another year of Junior, then a year in the AHL likely before he's ready to see major time with the Sens. I'm OK with that though. I don't expect this team to be fixed by next season. I'm puzzled why so many people think it will be.
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0 #97 Spartycat 2011-04-13 07:41
I can't believe some of what I'm reading! We had a better chance of dropping down than moving up but since we dropped it's rigged. We will get a good player, I trust Murry when it comes to drafting, look at his history.

Rebuilds can take many forms and I personally like the direction our team seems to be heading. Other than Chicago and Pittsburgh (them getting Crosby still pisses me off!) what other team has won purely on low draft pick?
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0 #98 my2sens 2011-04-13 07:47
6th pick sucks... but there are 24 worse spots to pick from!

I'm thinking Clouston already has a job with an NHL club and placed Anderson in goal each night so his team would get a better pick....
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+1 #99 sensfan-19 2011-04-13 07:52
I don't think we should trade up our first pick... All I've been hearing these past months is how the top 8 prospects are all pretty level. Then why give up a proven asset just to move up 1-3 spots? Of all the recent drafts I think this is the one where you could get the best player at #6. It would make more sense to move up Nashville's pick. Living in Toronto and hearing all the hype about Joe Colbourne, I wouldn't mind drafting Couturier. They are similar in stature and Couturier has more upside... also wouldn't complain about Strome. People have to stop being Negative Nancy's and start looking forward to draft day... BM's always got a trick or two up his sleeve!
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0 #100 TKM18 2011-04-13 07:53
If anything the fact New Jersey got the pick proves it isn't rigged. If there is any team the NHL would like to prevent winning the lottery, it would be them. Or maybe, it is rigged but this year they decided to trick people into thinking it wasn't rigged so they rigged it to have New Jersey win so people would never suspect that it's rigged! That must be it! I would agree however, that a better way to handle the lottery would be to do it live. Then people can start making up new theories on how it's rigged, spice things up a bit.

As for the draft position, I bet fans were really happy this team alledgedly tanked in 1993 to draft Daigle. How did that turn out? How exactly do you get a team to tank anyway? Sit Anderson? McElhinney was playing pretty well down the stretch too. Tell the players to not try hard for the sake of the team? When half of the team is up in the air next season, and these guys are playing for contracts and positions, it's hard to demand that.
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0 #101 Tookie 2011-04-13 08:04
Quoting rod:
Can we all stop kidding ourselves. The optimism is killing me. Those last few wins really cost us big time.


But no, the Sens fanbase cant be wrong?!?!

They said winning games is always better for the organization and that it builds chemistry, that they will undoubtedly lose over the summer, but winning thos last meaningless games cost us a top 3 pick, and now will pick up a player that was probably not in our plans.
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0 #102 What Would Alfie Do 2011-04-13 08:05
No big deal, lets be honest New Jersey number one need will be a D, I see them going hard at Murpphy/Hamilton...

this is how it will work out mark my word...

1.Nugent Hopkins(center Hall, great duo to come)
2.Larsson (to play with Johnson)
3.Lagdesgok (Florida to built around him and Markstrom)
4.Murpphy (New jersey will retain Parise and will go with D)
5.hamilton/Huberdeau ( hard to predict what to do need is D)
6... TAKE YOUR PICK

But with that being said i see Ottawa trading to 3rd or at least trying... Ottawa First, Ottawa Second and 2012 Ottawa second...
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-3 #103 Tcharger 2011-04-13 08:17
Quoting What Would Alfie Do:
No big deal, lets be honest New Jersey number one need will be a D, I see them going hard at Murpphy/Hamilton...

this is how it will work out mark my word...

1.Nugent Hopkins(center Hall, great duo to come)
2.Larsson (to play with Johnson)
3.Lagdesgok (Florida to built around him and Markstrom)
4.Murpphy (New jersey will retain Parise and will go with D)
5.hamilton/Huberdeau ( hard to predict what to do need is D)
6... TAKE YOUR PICK

But with that being said i see Ottawa trading to 3rd or at least trying... Ottawa First, Ottawa Second and 2012 Ottawa second...



Take your pick?!?!?! No that is the problem, we don't get to pick now, we get the player 5 other teams didn't want. Winning those games over the last month was horrible...We should have not been playing Anderson once signed. At least marginally increase our chances of stayin in the bottom 3.
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-3 #104 Tookie 2011-04-13 08:27
This is what the Sens org cant afford to be messing up, and they did. We were solidly in a top 3 a month ago, now we sit 6th, that is a major setback in development. We are now going to draft a player that we probably didnt want all because we won games we shouldnt have.

Tcharger I agree with you, this is a loss, anyway you see it, the worst possible scenario happened. Now we have to pray some fool in the 2nd or 3rd round + becomes a gem.

I really hope we trade up, Florida has traded away both their lottery wins, so why not offer them a package deal.
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+2 #105 SteelKane 2011-04-13 08:27
Ok people have got to stop complaining about not sitting Anderson when we could of. There is nothing we can do about it know. I say we just be happy with whoever we get because it is still going to be one of the best prospects if not best we have in our system.
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0 #106 Blake Ryan 2011-04-13 08:36
Alright, this is getting a little silly.

Why is everyone freaking out? it is one dropped spot, 5th to 6th. BM is the one guy i want in the driver seat on draft day, he has made amazing picks way later in the first round in previous years. He has a great team of scouts and as a group they have proven their eye for talent and ability to pluck star players out of the draft.

let's call a spade a spade, during FA season it makes sense to be terrified about what 90 year old Russian BM might try to sign... but on draft day, that is where BM shines, so relax, and stop trying to over think this. Those of you who are critiquing BM's "savvy" probably have no idea what BM has in mind. I trust BM on draft day, and you should too....
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-1 #107 Tcharger 2011-04-13 08:38
We haven't dropped only one spot...it was as many as 4. A month ago we were a lock for 2nd or 3rd.

Is there anything we can do now....Nope, does that mean we shouldn't be pissed off....Nope
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0 #108 Blake Ryan 2011-04-13 08:42
I personally loved the way the sens played themselves out of a pick, I was proud of the heart and energy they brought to the table. I would much rather be in this position and be excited for next season (already).

PS I have met Landeskog through a friend and he is a great guy, but he isn't a giant, and he has definitely filled out his frame to its max potential, someone pointed out that he is a man in a boys league and i agree with that, dont give up on the smaller guys yet they still have room to grow into their frames and might have even more upside then we expect.
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0 #109 Tookie 2011-04-13 08:45
Quoting THEBLACKTERROR:

Since just about everyone here had a hard-on for Landeskog (and I can't exactly figure out why, he had the worst stats of all the ranked forwards)


Landeskog has the highest goals per game avg of ALL the ranked forwards. He only played in 53 games and had 36 goals, that trumps Huberdeau who had 43 in 67.

And its not the diff between 5th and 6th, its the diff between and top 3 and out of the top 5.
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+1 #110 Tcharger 2011-04-13 08:49
The problem with people thinking we only dropped one place(and it is VERY common amongst sens fans) is they only seem to remember the very last thing that happened in regards to the team.

It is the same reason we appear to be totally bi-polar, after one game we lose everyone should be fired, the next game we win 5-2 and everyone should be locked up for the next 15 years, after a decent month everyone expects us to compete for the playoffs next season....start looking at the whole picture and not small windows of it.
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-3 #111 Tookie 2011-04-13 08:53
Quoting Blake Ryan:
I personally loved the way the sens played themselves out of a pick, I was proud of the heart and energy they brought to the table. I would much rather be in this position and be excited for next season (already).


Well that pretty much sums it up, you sir are an idiot! That is why our fanbase is one of the worst in the league, fans like you that dont understand the severity of mistakes made by the front office.

Your just happy the team wins at any cost and you dont even know why, oblivious to any reprocutions that could come of it.

Everything is ok, we won ourselves out of a top 3 pick, no worries, next year will be great...*sigh*

The only way this gets fixed is if BM trades up to 3rd and get the player he had planned for.
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0 #112 SensChirp 2011-04-13 09:08
Trying to set up a pool using the puckhogpools.co m site. Anyone used it before? Any good?
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+1 #113 boom 2011-04-13 09:10
@Blake Ryan

Blake, I'm sure you are as sorry as I am that we're not nearly as smart as Tookie - what a blessing it must be to be able to see into the future and know that a top3 pick will end up WAY better than the 6th.
And unlike that idiot, Murray, Tookie would have made sure that he had players (and coaches) that had no pride, and would have no problem tanking the last 10-20 games of the season.
I'm sure Brian Murray wishes he was as smart as Tookie too.
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-1 #114 Tcharger 2011-04-13 09:12
People have to get past the word "tanking"...tha t isn't exactly what the majority of people wanted. I know personally I just did not want to ride a hot goalie....put in our backup and increase our chances of losing...don't outright try to lose, everyone knows any athlete(let alone pros) aren't going to do that.

I mean I genuinely don't even know why we got Mcelheny *sp*.. We didn't use him/try to see if he would fit on our team.
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0 #115 Spezzarlsson 2011-04-13 09:16
I was at the Gatineau Olympiques game yesterday vs Drummondville and I was really not impressed with the play of Couturier. Why this guy is in the top 10 prospects for the upcoming draft is above me. He has great size but he does not use it at all! He is not dominating as he should. I just hope we do not draft him in the 6th spot. If Huberdeau is available i'd go for him. If not, Strome seems the best choice.
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+2 #116 sensman16 2011-04-13 09:27
I wouldnt mind the sens tradeing up. but the shouldnt over pay for it. If the price is to high then stay at six take Strome.
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-1 #117 Mitchell 2011-04-13 09:36
Although it sucks dropping a spot in the draft I do think the pick can still draft us a Ryan Strome or Sean Couturier. if at all possible maybe Huberdeau. So that three potential future stars any team would love to draft and with our 2nd 1st rounder Ty Rattie. who is ranked in the top 30.

Direct message to Bryan Murray: don't trade up the draft. draft all the picks. fill our cabinets with future stars. find a Zetterberg, a few Right wingers and another Zedno Chara but if your trade some picks let's hope it's for a Zack Praise, David Booth or Rick Nash type player.
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0 #118 Canuck Abroad 2011-04-13 09:43
Quoting HKYcountry:
@senskarlsson57

I will go so far as to say that contrary to what many Leaf fans may think, the Sens will make the playoffs again, before the LEafs do or at the vary least at the same time the Leafs FINALLY qualify for the playoffs again.


And then we face them in the first round and the true test to who is further ahead with their rebuilds will be revealed.

For all you conspiracists out there, this would be a great way to reintroduce the rivalry to this Battle of Ontario while the teams are young and build the battle with the teams as they grow. Think the NHL will make it happen? LMAO
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0 #119 Canuck Abroad 2011-04-13 09:45
Quoting Tcharger:


I mean I genuinely don't even know why we got Mcelheny *sp*.. We didn't use him/try to see if he would fit on our team.


We got him because we didn't have a reliable backup, Leclaire was fucked, and Lehner was supposed to go to the AHL to play more time. I don't think McElhinney will be back but who knows, he may be a cheap backup on a 1 yr contract.
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0 #120 Tcharger 2011-04-13 09:53
Quoting Canuck Abroad:
Quoting Tcharger:


I mean I genuinely don't even know why we got Mcelheny *sp*.. We didn't use him/try to see if he would fit on our team.


We got him because we didn't have a reliable backup, Leclaire was fucked, and Lehner was supposed to go to the AHL to play more time. I don't think McElhinney will be back but who knows, he may be a cheap backup on a 1 yr contract.


I know theoretically that is why we got him...we didn't use him though
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0 #121 FatJesus 2011-04-13 10:01
The sens want Landeskog and the only way that is gonna happen is if Oilers go for Larsson and Colorado goes for RNH. that way we could deal with Florida whod probably bite because there management should all be wearing helmets. Deal with our 6th and Regin most likely. but if not we still have the possibility of Couturier, Hurberdeau and Strome which are all good. nuff said, the gods have spoken.
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+1 #122 Peluso 2011-04-13 10:02
Listen, this really isn't that bad. We're still going to OWN this draft!
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+1 #123 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-04-13 10:04
Guys does anyone think Mark Stone can compete for a position next season?

He will be turning 19, and therefore won't be eligible for the AHL... is sending him BACK to Brandon the right thing to do?

I say if the kid has a good camp they should give him a run. He could be a diamond in the rough.
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0 #124 Peluso 2011-04-13 10:06
BTW - at least we aren't Calgary. Man, their worse off than my barber after he messes up my mullet.
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0 #125 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-04-13 10:10
To all the Huburdeau haters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYTELsqbl64&feature=related

this kid is damn good.
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-2 #126 Tookie 2011-04-13 10:25
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
To all the Huburdeau haters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYTELsqbl64&feature=related

this kid is damn good.


Your seriously going to brag about a guy who is playing on a stacked team and playing vs the worst of his league has to offer, they beat the 16th place team and now are beating the 11th place team.

Come on man get real, if they dont win it all THAT will tell the tale of the Huberdeau led Sea Dogs.
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0 #127 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-04-13 10:27
I was not bragging. I was just posting a video for anyone who was interested.

He's a good hockey player. Wouldn't mind if the Sens drafted him.

That's all.
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-1 #128 Captain Alfie 2011-04-13 10:48
GO SENS GO!
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+3 #129 PraiseAlfie84 2011-04-13 10:51
Man, I've never seen so much belly aching in my lifetime. yes it sucks we got bumped up, but people have to start realizing this is the luck the sens have, and have had, for a long time now. Roll with the punches folks, that's all I got to say...
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+1 #130 Murph 2011-04-13 11:32
Quoting Sens1963:
We are looking for a strong 2nd line centre aren't we? Couturier would fit that bill nicely ( skill, size and speed)


Imagine having a possible 1-2 centre punch of Spezza and Couturier. That'd be fun to see. Plus, by drafting a centre with their own 1st round pick, Murray could use the nashville 1st rounder to draft a winger. Zach Phillips anyone?
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+2 #131 SensFan13 2011-04-13 11:37
I don't know why some of you are being so hard on the team. You talk about player development, and how winning has set this team back, but then forget to consider the implications of the culture of winning established for players such as Butler, Condra and Greening. How would it have served them to see their team tank the season to move up 3 picks, it would have set back their development... You have to consider the team as a whole, not simply as a result of one possible draft pick.

For those of you who want to package the draft pick....why? Why not simply stock up on the most we can. The biggest problem with draft picks is that they are unproven commodities, there are always flops, even in the #3 slot. So why not protect ourselves against this and draft our 5 picks in the first 2 rounds. This team is built around developing could players through our farm, let's please stick with that.
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0 #132 Tcharger 2011-04-13 12:24
Quoting SensFan13:
How would it have served them to see their team tank the season to move up 3 picks, it would have set back their development... You have to consider the team as a whole, not simply as a result of one possible draft pick.


Then send the guys that matter back down to Bingo(where they should have been all season) and call up some of the lesser players from there.
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0 #133 Sandy 2011-04-13 12:36
We also have to remember that there is an outside chance that there may be another European player that will slide up in the draft.
It depends on teams' needs and the type of player they want.

Do you think it could be better for Murray to stay @ 6 (if he can't trade up that is) and concentrate on moving up with Nashville's pick? Say trying to move into top 10?

Question is -- if Nashville loses in the 1st round.. where do they seed in with the other 8 teams that lose in the 1st round? Is it based on regular season points for those teams?
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+1 #134 Blake Ryan 2011-04-13 13:27
@ Tookie and Tcharger
First of all, i remember the road to playing Anaheim in the finals a few years back... we were fast, had heart, and work ethic. I also remember the first half of this season where it was painful to watch our guys lace up the skates because they were lethargic and uninspired. So excuse me for getting excited about these guys turning it around and getting rid of their sense of entitlement and working towards a winning record. Furthermore, I would rather be in the situation where our new draft picks were introduced to a system that rewords hard work and winning over tanking like a bunch of gutless p*****s.

If a player scheduled to go in the top three of the draft is worth it, BM will trade up for them. Otherwise, we will be fine with whoever we grab. Spezza and Anderson are two guys that hate losing, and i respect that i am glad we brought Anderson in. Tanking for a pick is just pathetic. I am glad you guys aren't running the show.
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+1 #135 dustmites 2011-04-13 13:27
stupidness complete stupidness. Stunt a bunch of developing players to get one guy who might turn out... please

Butler skills= top 10-15 signed
Dacosta skills= top 20 signed
Cowen skills= top 5-10 9th
Runblad skills= top 5 18th?
Karlson skills= top 5 15th
Patterson skills= top 20 second round

So on so forth adding a 6th with scouts that knows whats up makes me think they will get a top skilled guy that wont bust. What I'm tryin to say they will get good player and other guys who wouldn't have gotten a chance to shine did like Condra, Greening, Shannon, Butler and develope into better players... thats a team not a bunch of good for nothins who bomb. I'm glad it's not a staff who stops team developement for a star....
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0 #136 Matty 2011-04-13 13:42
dustmites, who the eff is Patterson?
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0 #137 dustmites 2011-04-13 13:50
hum is he not a swede forward who just got a contract... not 100% sure if it's his name
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0 #138 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-04-13 16:23
Assuming we draft Couturier

UFA [Jokinen] - Spezza - Butler [he's proven himself; I think he's ready]
Michalek - Couturier - Alfie
Foligno - Regin - Neil
Greening - Winchester - Stone

Karlsson - Gonchar
Phillips - Cowen
Rundblad - Lee

Anderson

This is assuming we let Shannon walk. I really like him, but I think the youth philosophy that the team is trying to instill will make space for Greening's spot. I also have Mark Stone on the 4th, depending on if he has a good camp. He will not be AHL eligible due to his age, and sending him back to Brandon in my opinion is a waste.

Huburdeau can also play centre if he gets drafted by us, but he most likely be sent down back to the Q. Standard with young players.

I'm excited for Butler's game next season though.Would again like to see Jokinen signed. He's a good player if he plays with good linemates and also plays on the PP. I think he's worth ~$4 M/ year
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0 #139 Sandy 2011-04-14 14:49
Quoting dustmites:
hum is he not a swede forward who just got a contract... not 100% sure if it's his name


The name is Andre Petersson.. now the job is to get Silvferberg under contract.
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0 #140 ksensfan 2011-04-15 21:13
Relax guys, being 6th is not a problem, BM has a plan for next season and the Team, it is not haphazard.
If Landskog is part of the plan he will do what he has to to make that happen.
He is building the team with players we need for the complete package.
Sit back and watch him work, Drafting is his thing.
If he thinks its worth moving up its worth moving up.
Thats why he is paid the big bucks.

We are a bunch of arm chair GMs, glad we have BM and company.
Our draft team knows way more than us about the players and what we need.

let them do their job and watch what we ice next season.

It is going to be way better than what we have seen even in the later part of the season.

Have some Faith

Tanking is something winners do not do, if you want a bunch of losers go cheer for another team, I want winners and 100% players, no more Kovi Leclaire BS
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