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Thursday, 24 March 2011 22:03

Karlsson, Anderson Shine on Broadway

The Rangers didn't exactly play like a team battling for playoff positioning but perhaps a lot of that had to do with the Sens playing a nearly air tight road game. The Sens made life pretty tough for the Blue shirts and were able to get the job done in the shootout

Defenceman Erik Karlsson scored the winner in the 5th round and silenced the MSG faithful.

It wasn't exactly the most exciting hockey game as the Rangers seemed content to sit back for the majority of the game. It wasn't until the final twenty that they actually showed an interest in generating offence.

The pace certainly picked up over the final 25 minutes. An ugly play allowed the Rangers get on the board in this one as Phillips tripped up and Brandon Prust was able to walk in and beat Anderson on the blocker side.

Both goalies stole the show from there and went toe to toe in the shootout. Only Erik Karlsson was able to score as he snapped a hard low shot on the glove side that beat a fellow Swede in Henrik Lundqvist.

Thought Craig Anderson looked sharp in his return to the crease, particularly in the third period. Rangers had a ton of traffic in front of him in the final period and overtime he made terrific stops. Loved his performance in the shootout too.

It's not often you see a goalie that makes the shooter guess but that is exactly what Anderson did through all five rounds of the shootout. Rangers shooters looked like they had no idea what to do against him.

Ryan Shannon continues to flourish since being moved to the centre ice position. He seems to be a much more confident player the last little while and scored the Sens only regulation tonight. Shannon is an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year but is making a strong case to be a part of this team next season. You would have to think the Sens are interested in keeping him around.

The Sens return home immediately after the game and will host the Washington Capitals tomorrow night.


Here is a look at the bottom five after tonight's win in New York and Colorado's loss to the Leafs.

NY Islanders 75 29 34 12 70
Florida 74 29 35 10 68
Ottawa 74 28 37 9 65
Colorado 73 28 37 8 64
Edmonton 74 23 41 10 56
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+4 #1 mcmart 2011-03-24 21:07
Anderson is 8 for 8 in shootouts this year.

I don't remember feeling this calm when the opposing team is shooting.
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+3 #2 aimis30 2011-03-24 21:14
ANDY!!! Remember when elliott would let in every shot in the shootout? tank god that piece of crap is gone. I miss alfie when is he going to be back?
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-3 #3 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-03-24 21:16
Chirp, Colorado has played only 72 games, not 74, not including tonight.
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+1 #4 Cherub of Sens Justice 2011-03-24 21:18
Unreal the way the team has played since the trade deadline. I think other than scouting the heck out of players for the upcoming draft and hopefully signing Da Costa out of the NCAA, Ottawa really has to look at extending Karlsson as soon as possible. Kid is the real deal at 20 and the sooner we can lock him up long-term the better imo. Another year like this year with assumed improvement will drive his price up substantially.

On a tangent, I was checking out Mike Fisher's stats with the Preds so far, and it's pretty gross: 19 GP 4 PTS -5 +/- Yikes.
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+2 #5 SensFanInToronto 2011-03-24 21:19
I only caught the third but the sens look like they want the puck...earlier in the yr they were afraid of it and threw it around like a hot potato

2011-12 is looking promising for both the b-sens and the big club!
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-2 #6 SensChirp 2011-03-24 21:19
Quoting Sensational Sens Fan:
Chirp, Colorado has played only 72 games, not 74, not including tonight.

Thanks. Forgot to switch the games played when I was switching Ottawa and Colorado.

Leafs lead 3-2.
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-3 #7 Peter Sidørkiewicz 2011-03-24 21:29
King Cobra - Crimson - Curtis - Clancy - Kong - Kelly - KARLSSON !
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-2 #8 SensChirp 2011-03-24 21:35
Nashville wins again. Five straight for them.
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+3 #9 hamany 2011-03-24 21:47
wow! ottawa played great. i thought anderson looked good in those new pads. it was great to see neil on a breakaway to bad he didn't score. go sens go!!!!!!!
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+5 #10 m410 2011-03-24 21:49
Go figure...We trade away several veteran players and a sieve, and all of a sudden we are winning games. If only we had this chemistry and determination at the start of the season!

Great to see the young guns stepping up and appreciating the opportunity to play in the NHL.

Anderson for Elliot might have been the trade of the year! And likely saved Murray's job too!
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-1 #11 cup run scott 2011-03-24 21:54
Quoting Cherub of Sens Justice:
On a tangent, I was checking out Mike Fisher's stats with the Preds so far, and it's pretty gross: 19 GP 4 PTS -5 +/- Yikes.

Yeah, but if he was a bit banged up here, he's still a bit banged up there. He's saving it a bit and will be a beast in the playoffs. That's why they wanted him.
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0 #12 Peter Sidørkiewicz 2011-03-24 21:56
How did Patrick Wiercioch play ?

Less nervously I hope.
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0 #13 Rizzo 2011-03-24 22:01
Quoting SensChirp:
Nashville wins again. Five straight for them.


Another zero point outing for Fisher...He's also seen a significant drop in ice time...was getting 19-20 after the trade, now he's getting 14-17.

Also, for everyone who though Fish was a top notch penalty killer...Nashvi lle is (obviously) a very strong defensive team. Fisher was on the PK 6 seconds tonight, while (journeyman) Jerred Smithson and Nick Spaling got 5 and 4 mins, respectively.

Easily the biggest Murray trade coup of his tenure (yes, bigger than Elliott/Anderso n). Fisher will be considered an un-tradeable contract by next season at this rate.
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-2 #14 sensarmy 2011-03-24 22:10
Are we playing win-for-win with the Preds cuz I was under the impression that we actually wanted to have a good draft this year?
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0 #15 landeskog15 2011-03-24 22:41
anyone have tickets for sale for tomorrows game?
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-2 #16 WeAreSensFans! 2011-03-24 22:42
Great to see we'll be competetive next year.

Not sure why butler didn't get a shootout chance. i hope clue had put neil on the list at some point to get his chance back.

good job to anderson and karlson for sure, i'm thinking we should consider using karlson as a forward on the p.k.
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0 #17 Obsensational 2011-03-24 23:08
I hope Gryba plays against Boston. That would be great!!!!!
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-2 #18 Yaro 2011-03-24 23:17
It's time to root for Nashville. No way they will miss the playoffs now and the higher they are the better chances to go past first round for them.
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+5 #19 Barnsley Pal 2011-03-25 03:01
There must be some kind of mistake...the Sens don't win shootout games ever ;)
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+6 #20 SensChirp 2011-03-25 06:20
Seems like SensChirp has its very own troll. Now we know whoever is handing out all the minus rating is a member. Next step is finding out which one and we can hand out our first ban :)
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+4 #21 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-25 07:24
Pretty good result IMO, At this point I think Colorado is too bad to stay ahead of us in the standings. Count on #3 Overall, and honestly, I'm prepared to be 4th overall in the draft the way Fla looks since the deadline.

No big, just means we can pick Strome without the pressure of going off the board for the big 3. I'm cool with that.
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0 #22 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-25 07:33
Chirp for the rating system I think you should change it (if you can) so that it shows the total amount of thumbs up and down. Instead of showig -1 for example, you could have it say 24 likes/23 dislikes. It would be interesting to see how many people are using that feature or if it's just the same couple wise guys giving out the minuses haha
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+1 #23 The Apostle 2011-03-25 07:40
or just get rid of the rating system completely
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+6 #24 Rizzo 2011-03-25 07:54
Quoting Allan:
or just get rid of the rating system completely


But then how can we win the internet?
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-3 #25 SensFanInBoston 2011-03-25 07:59
I have to question CC yet again. I thought Wick has been playing very well and should have some time with Spezz on the first line yet CC barely played him. I heard that his parents flew in to see the game. Why not give him a shot during the shootout? I mean why should Svatos get a shot? I don't see him with the team next year but Wick could - if he stays in NA.
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-2 #26 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-25 08:09
News Flash, Wick is not good. He's like a less talented version of Nick Foligno, and Nicky has a hard enough time making production out of all his hard work as it is. Wick will not stick in the NHL in more than a third line role, and will probably end up back in europe as one of the better players there.

People get way too hyped up about the poor forward prospects we have. Only Butler has shown potential top 6 sticking power. Condra and Greening would be a good third line pair, and Regin and Wick have not impressed at all outside of a few fluke stints. Stop thinking everyone who plays a good game has so much potential, they really don't. these days, what a forward is like at 23-24 is what they will always be.

Rizzo is correct, inb4 teh interwebz must be won.
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+6 #27 joedick 2011-03-25 08:20
So, what's up with everyone here hating prospects if they can't make the top 6? I mean, given that most prospects don't even get to the NHL, there's nothing wrong with them being third or fourth liners.

Or do we over rate the prospects so much that we expect them all to be top 6? It's actually a pretty common phenomenon known as 'Winchester Syndrome'.
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+2 #28 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-25 08:35
So... how about that Erik Karlsson eh? Anyone still interested in trading him?
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-2 #29 Zira1 2011-03-25 08:43
Quoting SensChirp:
Seems like SensChirp has its very own troll. Now we know whoever is handing out all the minus rating is a member. Next step is finding out which one and we can hand out our first ban :)


Not me Chirp. I pick/choose my ratings as I feel about each comment. Wish I could help you. It upsets me too.
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+3 #30 Rizzo 2011-03-25 08:49
Quoting John Q. Spartan:
So... how about that Erik Karlsson eh? Anyone still interested in trading him?


Here's a stat: in March (IE since getting rid of Fisher, Kelly, Kovalev, Campoli) Karlsson has 11 pts (4g) in 12 games, and is +1, all while playing over 25:00 a game.

Oh, and he's taken 46 SOG, or his total from Jan/Feb combined.
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+3 #31 Underwood 2011-03-25 08:51
Quoting Rizzo:
Quoting John Q. Spartan:
So... how about that Erik Karlsson eh? Anyone still interested in trading him?


Here's a stat: in March (IE since getting rid of Fisher, Kelly, Kovalev, Campoli) Karlsson has 11 pts (4g) in 12 games, and is +1, all while playing over 25:00 a game.

Oh, and he's taken 46 SOG, or his total from Jan/Feb combined.


plus they traded for a goalie
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+5 #32 KGV 2011-03-25 08:55
While I understand that each win potentially pushes us further down the draft, I think we are looking at this the wrong way.

Greening and Butler are both rookies playing against the top defensive pairings in the league and have looked good. Then we have Spezza who is playing phenomenal hockey as of late and has been absolutely dominant out there. Remember, he's playing with two rookies. He is a leader on this team.

Then there's Anderson. He handles the puck well, doesn't give up bad rebounds, and doesn't let in a bad goal per game. The D play better with him backing them up.

We can hope that our call-ups play horribly so we can get a higher draft pick but that means our prospects haven't developed and that represent a team going nowhere. Or we can be excited to see that our future is very bright.

I choose to cheer them on with every win and look for the positives in every loss.

My two cents.
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-1 #33 Timic 2011-03-25 09:06
Quoting RhinoceRoss:
Pretty good result IMO, At this point I think Colorado is too bad to stay ahead of us in the standings. Count on #3 Overall, and honestly, I'm prepared to be 4th overall in the draft the way Fla looks since the deadline.

No big, just means we can pick Strome without the pressure of going off the board for the big 3. I'm cool with that.


Totally agree. The Skog, although he has a cool nickname, scares me because his performance this year may largely be just because physically he's a man playing among boys. That advantaged may be erased in the NHL. RNH is concerning because he seems only to score on the PP and against weaker teams. Couturier... meh. Strome to me seems to have as much potential as any of those guys. 4th overall this year isn't any different than 2nd to me. I would like first, and to draft Larsson actually, but that is not a possibility. So I get to cheer for wins which is nice.
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+6 #34 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-25 09:11
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Rizzo:

Here's a stat: in March (IE since getting rid of Fisher, Kelly, Kovalev, Campoli) Karlsson has 11 pts (4g) in 12 games, and is +1, all while playing over 25:00 a game.

Oh, and he's taken 46 SOG, or his total from Jan/Feb combined.


plus they traded for a goalie


This is a huge part of it, anyone's stats look awful when your goalie lets in everything - When a defenceman can afford to make risky plays and have one-two of them go badly per game, and NOT be an automatic goal, their skill becomes much more apparent.
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-2 #35 Timic 2011-03-25 09:12
@ KGV, totally agree. Plus Shannon may be finally becoming something with this opportunity.

One negative thing I noticed though is that Anderson created a bazillion turnovers playing the puck when there was a teamate there that he could have just left it to. Did anyone else notice that? It was kind of scary I thought.
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-2 #36 Timic 2011-03-25 09:32
Totally important nickname suggestion.

I don't see why we don't just call Anderson "Mr. Anderson" a la The Matrix. Tell me his superhuman saving ability isn't reminiscent of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlbrH2dtkGQ

And this provides further inspiration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyKDrGzn-I

And this is just an outright brainwashing ploy on my part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XooISvoZ_rs&NR=1

I rest my case
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-3 #37 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-25 09:39
Many years ago, there was a hardware store called Handy Andy.

With the way Craig Anderson has performed in past 15 or so games, may I suggest that he have the nickname "Handy Andy"

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!
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+3 #38 Johne 2011-03-25 09:50
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Curtis McElhinney won't dress as backup for personal reasons. Mike Brodeur has been recalled. Roman Wick sent back.
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+3 #39 Johne 2011-03-25 09:51
Hey Chirp, love the direct link to popup comments from the homepage :D badass :D
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-2 #40 Johne 2011-03-25 09:52
Something else thats kinda odd: When I post, the numbers don't display for what post it is.

http://i.imgur.com/nnFc6.png

Another suggestion, can you make http links automatically hyperlinks that open in a new window/tab? I think that would be a nice addition.
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+4 #41 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-25 10:02
Handy Andy is the worst nickname I've ever heard!

@Timic, the defenseman just aren't used to a goalie who plays the puck as well or as often as Anderson does. They'll adjust. Having a goaltender who can really play the puck takes a lot of pressure off the defenseman coming back in the zone. They just have to learn to communicate better, although that may be difficult for Kuba and Phillips, they both look like they were just lobotomized in the offseason haha
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+3 #42 Sensnation 2011-03-25 10:17
Quoting Johne:
Hey Chirp, love the direct link to popup comments from the homepage :D badass :D


Can't agree with this comment enough. Great job on the improvements Chirp, keep it coming!
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-2 #43 gcjager 2011-03-25 10:27
Good to hear they won! What channel did you guys watch it on? I couldn't find it.

Also, does anyone know how much sportsnet sens costs? And is it worth it?
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-2 #44 gcjager 2011-03-25 10:32
Why are you negative-ing me?! Lol!
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-2 #45 my2sens 2011-03-25 10:57
Quoting gcjager:
Good to hear they won! What channel did you guys watch it on? I couldn't find it.

Also, does anyone know how much sportsnet sens costs? And is it worth it?


I couldn't find it last night either. As for the Sens Channel - Sportsnet One - I don't find it a good value. I can't remember how much, but you only get 12 Sens games. Of those 12, this year they had a free preview which showed about 8 of them... so you would have only paid for 4.

Perhaps there's exclusive content which makes it worthwhile?
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+3 #46 Hax 2011-03-25 11:04
The more I see the play of Shannon, Greening, Condra etc, the less I am worried about the draft. I'm not sure we need a guy who can step in next season at all. Drafting a guy that needs another year seasoning would be totally fine as we'll have more time to really see what we have with these guys - and if someone pulls a Regin then we'll know sooner. (Hopefully Regin pulls an anti-Regin next year too).

Heck, I can't see a spot for that top 6 UFA at this point. Why push a young guy out of the lineup that might be a key part in 2-3 years?

I'd even be totally fine now with drafting Larsson. Having a couple of guys in Bingo that could play in the NHL is not so bad - especially D who take longer to develop.

Spezza, Michalek, Butler, Alfie, Foligno, Regin, Neil, Shannon, Greening, Condra, Smith, Winchester.

Can't really see any guy there that doesn't have the potential to be a big part of a successful team in a few years.
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+4 #47 ClearTheZone 2011-03-25 11:26
Here are some stats some Sens fans hate to see:

Ryan Shannon: (since 2/23)
- last 15 games TOI - averaging 18 min per game
- playing PK & PP
- +/- plus 3 over that time
- 11 points
- 4 goals in the past 5 games; 5 goals total.
- only + player on the team with more than 20 games played

Good things can happen to good players when they get more than 6-8 min a game.
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-1 #48 conor smythe 2011-03-25 11:32
Clear the zone,

finally some more shannon support. thought I was alone on this one. seems most people would rather see one-time playoff wonder Peter Regin in the lineup next season. with shannon either scratched or on another team.

some people just have no clue whatsoever.
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-2 #49 KGV 2011-03-25 11:33
Quoting gcjager:
Good to hear they won! What channel did you guys watch it on? I couldn't find it.

Also, does anyone know how much sportsnet sens costs? And is it worth it?


If you have HDTV then it is on channel 500. If you do not, you can find the games on channel 404 or 414 (cannot remember which specific channel but was watching it on a TV that doesn't have any special cable packages on it).
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+3 #50 Johne 2011-03-25 11:40
Shannon will be replaced by a much more capable UFA forward. While I wouldn't mind him being on the roster next year, there's simply no room unless our top 3 pick doesn't make camp.
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-2 #51 conor smythe 2011-03-25 11:44
johne

what do you mean "replaced"? its not like he has a determined spot on our roster. He plays 2nd, 3rd, and 4th line, depending on the night. And he seems happy in any of the roles.

We would have to find 3 'more capable' UFA's to be able to actually replace him.
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+1 #52 Johne 2011-03-25 11:48
@conor

Right now he's playing top minutes, those minutes will be replaced by a top 6 forward, Shannon may be filling a top 6 role right now, but he really shouldn't be. I dunno how to defend what you said or counter it, just the fact that Regin is better than Shannon and any UFA we sign will be better than Shannon, so I guess I don't get why we would be upset with replacing him on the roster with better players?
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-1 #53 ClearTheZone 2011-03-25 11:53
Quoting Johne:
@conor

Right now he's playing top minutes, those minutes will be replaced by a top 6 forward, Shannon may be filling a top 6 role right now, but he really shouldn't be. I dunno how to defend what you said or counter it, just the fact that Regin is better than Shannon and any UFA we sign will be better than Shannon, so I guess I don't get why we would be upset with replacing him on the roster with better players?


What more does he have to do to continue to prove himself? By your own admission you can't defend a pure opinion, and that's fine, just understand that is is pure conjecture on your part.

Regin has a long road back. Again, it is only an opinion that he is better than Shannon. He certainly didn't show that this year (more facts to support my position). Regin will not step back onto the ice and be inserted into a top 6 role. He's got to earn it.
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-1 #54 conor smythe 2011-03-25 11:56
First of all, I don't believe Regin is better than shannon. there has been absolutely no evidence of it whatsoever. Even Regin's ultra flashy goal last season is peanuts compared to the move shannon pulled on the shorthanded break last week.

moreso, "shannon may be filling a top 6 role right now, but he really shouldn't be"

WHY?

has he been unsuccesful? his numbers are good, see above ^^

has the team been unsuccesful? not really, compared to our record when shannon was fourth line/healthy scratch, we're doing great

Has shannon EVER been a defensive liability? not even close.

I get it, he's short, and that makes some of you uncomfortable. get over it.
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+3 #55 Hax 2011-03-25 12:00
Quoting conor smythe:

some people just have no clue whatsoever.


Conor - I have to say I really like Shannon's game as well, but I'm not ready to give up on Regin. Plenty of guys have had crappy sophmore seasons - and this year pretty much everyone had an off year.

Not saying I'd put Regin on the second line and let Shannon walk - just thinking we should give both guys a chance to win a full-time job. Sign Shannon to a 1-2 year deal and pencil both guys into our top 9 next year.
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+1 #56 Johne 2011-03-25 12:01
LOL, size has nothing to do with it. I like his speed, but I have a problem with his ability to finish. I thought when he started QBing the PP a few weeks ago that he looked horrible. Regin's play can be excused for playing with Kovalev, put him with motivated linemates and we'll see but Shannon is good for maybe 20 goals on a good season, I don't see why we wouldn't be happier with Upshall. Take off your homer blinders for a moment and think if there are other teams out there that are saying 'damn I wish we had Shannon'. Cause if that was the case, there was a solid month to acquire him and noone did.
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-1 #57 ClearTheZone 2011-03-25 12:04
Quoting Hax:
Quoting conor smythe:

some people just have no clue whatsoever.


Conor - I have to say I really like Shannon's game as well, but I'm not ready to give up on Regin. Plenty of guys have had crappy sophmore seasons - and this year pretty much everyone had an off year.

Not saying I'd put Regin on the second line and let Shannon walk - just thinking we should give both guys a chance to win a full-time job. Sign Shannon to a 1-2 year deal and pencil both guys into our top 9 next year.


So if there is truth to a "sophomore slump" (which I hate hearing), then we better be prepared to see Butler, Greening and Condra fall on their faces. More reasons to keep Shannon around. ; )
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-4 #58 Johne 2011-03-25 12:08
@Hax

Long time no talk buddy, I've been too busy planning the parade for 2012.

UFA/Spezza/Butler
Michalek/Foligno/Alfredsson
Greening/Regin/Condra
Smith/Winchester/Neil

I don't even see room on that roster for our draft pick, let alone Shannon.

I'm OK with ditching Smith or having him in Bingo.
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-1 #59 Hax 2011-03-25 12:09
Quoting ClearTheZone:
So if there is truth to a "sophomore slump" (which I hate hearing), then we better be prepared to see Butler, Greening and Condra fall on their faces. More reasons to keep Shannon around. ; )


Statistically speaking, one of those three guys will probably struggle next year. Not like they're all first rounders that we "knew" would be stars some day.

I don't really like that term either since it implies that everyone goes through it, but there is some merit to the idea that players often struggle after getting out of the gate strong.
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+2 #60 Johne 2011-03-25 12:15
Quoting Hax:

Statistically speaking, one of those three guys will probably struggle next year. Not like they're all first rounders that we "knew" would be stars some day.

I don't really like that term either since it implies that everyone goes through it, but there is some merit to the idea that players often struggle after getting out of the gate strong.


I think alot of the slumps come when they lose that motivation of playing in the NHL, but there should be alot of guys trying to crack the roster next year which should certainly keep the guys up with the club to stay motivated.

Not to mention Silfverberg and Stone will be hoping for a roster shot next season too.
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-2 #61 Johne 2011-03-25 12:17
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - Senators RW Milan Michalek will return. He is hoping to play at the world championships in May. #sens
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-1 #62 ClearTheZone 2011-03-25 12:17
Like I said, Regin has to earn his way back. Nothing is going to be handed to him. And I can tell you, Shannon will beat out a Condra at camp.
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-1 #63 conor smythe 2011-03-25 12:21
homer blinders? that doesnt even make sense

you're the guy with Winchester, smith, and regin on the ice ahead of a guy who has outperformed them all season long.

why weren't GM's lining up to trade for any of them?

your logic sucks.
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+2 #64 Johne 2011-03-25 12:26
@Conor

Winchester and Regin are under contract already for next season, so I think they better be on the team???
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-1 #65 ClearTheZone 2011-03-25 12:29
Quoting Johne:
@Hax

Long time no talk buddy, I've been too busy planning the parade for 2012.

UFA/Spezza/Butler
Michalek/Foligno/Alfredsson
Greening/Regin/Condra
Smith/Winchester/Neil

I don't even see room on that roster for our draft pick, let alone Shannon.

I'm OK with ditching Smith or having him in Bingo.


Exact same stuff was said at the beginning of this season and look what's happened.....Sh annon has played 71 games and is the only PLAYER on the team with a + rating (> 20 games played). And he's improving.
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-1 #66 Hax 2011-03-25 12:33
Quoting Johne:
@Hax

I don't even see room on that roster for our draft pick, let alone Shannon.


I don't see a rush to sign a UFA this season. To me that option was only if we didn't have 12 forwards we thought were part of our future (or 11 + Alfie). Up until a couple of weeks ago I was totally of the opinion that "Shannon's a great guy, but he won't be a key guy in 2-3 years". His play lately changed my mind. Not that he's a lock or even top 6 material, but considering our top 6 could easily be made up of guys we already have in our system (or will draft) in 2-3 years, no harm in keeping Shannon around for bottom 6. Heck, he may even play his way higher.

Why spend $3M on Upshall in another non-playoff season when we can have Shannon for less than $1M?

Agreed though on our draft pick. Now I think he'll be destined to play his way onto the team in camp - or return to junior. Even if it's Landeskog.
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+2 #67 Johne 2011-03-25 12:35
@Hax

but we're winning the cup next year.
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+2 #68 Johne 2011-03-25 12:37
Another reason why we bring in Upshall or similar UFA, we need to keep Spezza happy. Last thing we need is another Heatley fiasco. Putting Shannon on Spezza's wing does us no good and I don't think we need Foligno there either.
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+3 #69 Johne 2011-03-25 12:43
Whats really interesting is if we draft Landeskog + Strome or another surprise draft pick, thats potentially 2 roster spots eaten up.
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+2 #70 Johne 2011-03-25 12:47
I'm not a shannon hater by any means, I just don't know how we can justify excluding our youth by a player thats showed potential in the last 6 or 7 games. Where was he all the rest of the games that he's played for us? Sometimes a hot streak is only a hot streak.
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-2 #71 ClearTheZone 2011-03-25 13:01
Quoting Johne:
I'm not a shannon hater by any means, I just don't know how we can justify excluding our youth by a player thats showed potential in the last 6 or 7 games. Where was he all the rest of the games that he's played for us? Sometimes a hot streak is only a hot streak.


Where was he? Getting 6-8 min a game. His ass was nailed to the bench. Hard to produce when you're not on the ice. For the limited time he did play he was productive. And try to be somewhat fair. Since getting 21+ minutes on 2/23, he has contributed on the PK and has been productive over 15 games.
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-1 #72 Hax 2011-03-25 13:34
@Johne - nobody is suggesting Shannon on the top line. I'm thinking more third line center. Spezza seems happy with Butler and Greening and there's always MM9, Alfie, Regin, Foligno or some other options.

Unless Spezza is privately pitching to have Upshall or some other UFA come to town I say why force it?

(Other than winning the cup the next year)
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+2 #73 Sensnation 2011-03-25 13:49
Shannon is good with the minutes he's getting, but there's no way he's playing this much next year unless he improves even further. He's a very nice plug and play piece, but I just don't see who he'd get top 6 minutes over next year when the team is healthy and all are accounted for.

I still like him on the team though, but he's UFA and playing for a contract right now.
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-2 #74 Dingo 2011-03-25 15:44
People are thinking too high on Folingo. I can't see him ever making it past the third line on a good team.


Michalek Spezza Butler
Greening Shannon Alferdsson
Folingo Regin Condra
Rookie Winchester Neil

To me that looks good and a second line center getting 20 goals sounds good to me with that time on ice he will likely get more then 30 assests. Fishers best year... what I always thought Shannon could do with confedence and good linemates. I love his creative play. He has something most players dont.
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