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Monday, 21 March 2011 09:31

Craig Anderson Signs 4 Yr/$12.75 mil

At a news conference this morning, the Ottawa Senators announced the signing of goaltender Craig Anderson to a four year extension worth $12.75 mil.

This is a deal that has been talked about for awhile now on this site. The day the Sens traded for Anderson I had been told that a deal was ready to go. Just a matter of sitting down and hammering out the details.

Good to see Murray get this deal done.

Craig Anderson has been terrific since arriving here in Ottawa and the team has been greatly improved with him between the pipes. Anderson has had nothing but good things to say about his teammates, the city and the organization since arriving in a deal that sent Brian Elliott to Colorado.

Anderson gives the club stability in goal moving forward and will allow prospect Robin Lehner more time to develop. A little bit surprised by the length of the deal though.

All that said, a solid signing by the Sens.

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+1 #1 Johne 2011-03-21 10:06
Hope the numbers are in the 3.5 or 4 per range anything less is a steal.
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0 #2 sensarmy_11 2011-03-21 10:06
do we know the $$$ involved
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+2 #3 oakster15 2011-03-21 10:06
hmm. 4 years is just a bit too much. lets see if the salary is reasonable now.

he's a great goalie and thats why I don't feel too bad about the term length, but I would have thought a shorter contract would be better to get lehner in nets sonner and get him experience
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+2 #4 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:07
Yea I'm a little surprised to see that extra year tacked on but I guess that's what it took to get the deal done.

Still waiting on the cap hit.
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0 #5 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-21 10:08
Great news Chirp !

Any other details on how much contract is worth ??
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0 #6 Boredzs 2011-03-21 10:08
Term is too long. Should have been 2 or 3 years tops. Cap hit will probably end up being in 3.5M range, again too much. as I mentioned Sens fans will be complaining about this in no time.
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+2 #7 Ryan 2011-03-21 10:09
i dont see 4 years a little much it obviously gives time for lehner to develop. but we'll have to see how much hes making b4 i judge
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-1 #8 Johne 2011-03-21 10:09
LOL, try to be a little positive with this signing, the negative comments already....unbe lievable, no wonder noone wants to play in this city.
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+7 #9 SuperLogan 2011-03-21 10:09
i dont mind the length of the contract at all. It gives us security in net just in case Lehner is a bust, and if he isn't, whats the worst that could happen? Vancouver isn't upset that they have Luongo and Schneider.

Two solid goalies will give the new team the confidence going forward. Good job, Murray!
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+5 #10 WeAreSensFans! 2011-03-21 10:10
Great term, 4 years will set our team up with a solid team franchise netminder while our prospects get seasoning, look to see lehner come up within 2 years and work with craig to be one of the best tandems in our franchise history.

great move brian! the elliot trade can now go down as a great deal even if we risked some draft picks in the process.
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+2 #11 Tcharger 2011-03-21 10:10
4 years is alright....Allo ws us to likely have him for 1 or 2 seasons of when our team should be decent again...Cap hit isn't a big deal as I hope we won't be stupid and spending to the cap for the next year or two.
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+1 #12 PickMathieuChouinardTwice 2011-03-21 10:10
Hopefully, there isn't a no-movement or no-trade clause. We have seen too many those handcuff Murray when trying to make a deal. (see: Heatley, Kovalev, Phillips)
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+16 #13 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:10
This certainly solidifies the Elliott/Anderso n trade as one of the most lopsided in recent memory.
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0 #14 Dirk Diggler 2011-03-21 10:11
Hope it's a contract that puts him just under $3M per year. I can live with $3.5 though. He gives us a chance to be competitive and develop Lehner properly. Great job Murray!
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-12 #15 Tcharger 2011-03-21 10:13
Quoting SensChirp:
This certainly solidifies the Elliott/Anderson trade as one of the most lopsided in recent memory.



Not really....it is moving us down the draft.
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+20 #16 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:14
Murray also mentioned this morning that the club will not be extending Pascal Leclaire.
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0 #17 PraiseAlfie84 2011-03-21 10:14
Quoting SensChirp:
This certainly solidifies the Elliott/Anderson trade as one of the most lopsided in recent memory.


This is pretty much what I was going to say, that Anderson for Elliot trade was probably the best one Murray has made so far in his tenure here.

I don't mind the 4 year term, this team still has 2 more seasons of growing pains before we see what our prospects turn into, the extra 2 years on the contract will be for when the team is ready to contend again and I imagine Anderson wanted to be a part of that as well, not just through the next couple of rough seasons...

My guess is the money will be around $3.5M per season....
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+4 #18 Doc 2011-03-21 10:15
Man, people just love complaining for any reasons, huh.

We finally have a #1 goalie and people STILL complain.

Best trade of the year. Elliot for Anderson (signed). Teehee.
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0 #19 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-21 10:16
If Anderson's agent got a 4 year contract, I hope it is not more than $3.0 million, and more like 2.25 t0 2.75 million .

Should be interesing to see the numbers !
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+1 #20 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-03-21 10:16
A bit too long, would have preferred 3 years, but this still has the potential to be a great signing.
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0 #21 Frank GGG 2011-03-21 10:17
what are the terms?
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0 #22 Johne 2011-03-21 10:18
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - That total $12.75 million for four years for Anderson. An average $3.187 per year.
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+3 #23 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:18
Numbers are up at the top now.

2.75
3.0
3.5
3.5
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0 #24 WeAreSensFans! 2011-03-21 10:19
Hopefully murray has learned from other gm's and front loaded the contract and if he has given anderson a NMC it is only for the first 2 years.
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+3 #25 Tcharger 2011-03-21 10:19
Quoting SensChirp:
Numbers are up at the top now.

2.75
3.0
3.5
3.5



Thats alright.
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+2 #26 Doc 2011-03-21 10:19
4 years 12.75 millions.

3.2 millions! w00t!!
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+1 #27 Tcharger 2011-03-21 10:21
I am kind of surprised the numbers aren't reversed, but I guess it really makes no difference.
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+1 #28 WeAreSensFans! 2011-03-21 10:21
wow rear loading the contract is the opposite from what is normally done, but in all a good deal.
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+3 #29 RUSHRLZ 2011-03-21 10:21
I like the $$$ numbers. Longer term than I expected, less $$$ per year than I expected. Solid deal!
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+1 #30 Johne 2011-03-21 10:22
I like this signing, been a long time since we've had stability in net and for Murray to make this deal you have to think Murray is going to be around for a bit, he's done extremely well in turning this team around by blowing it up.
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+1 #31 Mike Bauer 2011-03-21 10:25
Obviously he said he wouldnt stay without the 4th year...

Lehner should be ready by end of year 2 at tops, but lots of cap space going forward and they can always move him, buy out etc etc if he sucks...I wonder if he has a NTC or NMC...
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+1 #32 JABSmilez 2011-03-21 10:26
WOW!

Definitely solidifies Elliott for Anderson as a great trade, as mentioned above, but that term is quite a bit more then I was hoping for. Let's just keep our fingers crossed that this season was indeed the aberration for the rest of his career.

Lehner, enjoy your time in Bingo the next few years, hopefully the fans down there start warming up to you.
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+5 #33 aligator 2011-03-21 10:26
Murray will be arounf for awhile.
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+3 #34 Rizzo 2011-03-21 10:27
I'm sure people are going to be upset by the length, but there is no way we would have been able to get a UFA of Anderson's level for anywhere near that cost.

Looks like Anderson has bought into the rebuild and likes our potential. His agent probably knows he left some money on the table to sign here.
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-2 #35 LouSens 2011-03-21 10:27
Wouldn't have been better to pay him less at the end of the contract? I'd imagine we'd be better by then and may have wanted the extra cash for upgrade players?... No crazy money difference I guess.
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+4 #36 GuiCR 2011-03-21 10:27
It's a pretty good deal. I much like other people is surprised it's a 4 year contract but it makes sense and he's only 29 so by the time he's done he should be around 33 which is basically a goalie's prime since goalie's don't usually become starters until their 25 and become a back-up around 35 ish. I'm happy with this deal.
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+1 #37 Phil. 2011-03-21 10:28
has anyone implied that the contract is rear loaded to allow the signing of UFA? (while Gonchar/Kuba contracts are still impairing cap management)

I realize cap hit is the same but Melnyk money isn't.

Chirp, I like the pop up comments. Not sure how I missed that until now.
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+2 #38 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-21 10:28
Quoting SensChirp:
Numbers are up at the top now.

2.75
3.0
3.5
3.5


Good combination of money and length of contract.

Hope Anderson earns every single dollar, by playing like a #1 goaltender over the 4 years !

Deal is equitable for both parties and we can now move forward to next year !
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-1 #39 Ryan 2011-03-21 10:29
id 12.75 over 4 years is pretty good incase anyone wnats the story here is the link http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=358985
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0 #40 sensarmy_11 2011-03-21 10:29
was there a NMC or NTC included in the deal?
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+1 #41 Rizzo 2011-03-21 10:29
Also I don't know why everyone wants the contract to be front loaded...it's simple economics. Inflation means that the $3.5 mil that we pay out in year 4 will be worth quite a bit less than $3.5 now. It's actually a very shrewd contract structure, in terms of real dollars.
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+7 #42 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:30
As an aside to this deal, I was told that Murray would not negotiate a deal with Anderson unless he knew he was back as GM next year.

This solidifies it.
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+1 #43 Mike Bauer 2011-03-21 10:32
with this signing, i am willing to accept we will now be getting a top 3 and not a top 2 pick...hopefull y we dont climb out of the bottom 3...

Could still win the Lotto too!

At this stage it looks like Ottawa will get RNH.

1. Edm, Laarsson
2. Col, Landeskog (they need a winger with Statsny and Duchene being there)
3. Ott, RNH

I think the only way Ottawa will get Landeskog with the #3 overall pick would be if Edm shocks and takes RNH (even though they need a center) then I think COL will take the best player after (Laarsson)...

To continue this ramble, if Ottawa gets Larrson, I would trade one of there big 3 D prospects and try to get a really high end forward prospect...

Exciting Times!
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+5 #44 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 10:32
Awesome!! Great signing Bryan. I'm very pleased with this deal. I don't see any problem with the fourth year. He's a legitimate starting goaltender and we didn't have to break the bank to get him.

This allows Lehner the time to develop in the minors and we won't have to jerk him around any longer like we did this season.

I expected the signing to be in the 2.75-3 million range but I really don't have any problems with the term or the cap hit.

Now all we have to do is sign McElhenney to a one or 2 year deal at around 850 000 and we'll be set between the pipes for next season.

The thing I like the most about this deal, is that Lehner is now going to have to earn a job on this team instead of having it handed to him like some people wanted.

Go Sens Go!
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+4 #45 The Dutch Treat 2011-03-21 10:32
I am a happy man and this deal is amazing...

1) Because we get a franchise goalie who loves an increased workload. With this defense, that's a guarantee.

2) Because it makes JABSmilez a sad panda.
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0 #46 Phil. 2011-03-21 10:33
I am glad Murray will be back. Hopefully he can play the left wing.
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+3 #47 SlickRick 2011-03-21 10:37
Right arm!!!!
I like this signing and am happy to have him here (Please don't pull a Gerber, please don't pull a Gerber). Best trade at the deadline.
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0 #48 The Dutch Treat 2011-03-21 10:38
And before you get angry JABS, I'm just joshin' ya~!
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+1 #49 Tookie 2011-03-21 10:38
Im ok with this deal, would love to see the 4th year with a lower amount as we will probably be stuck with it when Anderson is backup.

But over all, I think he can get the job done and I wouldnt br surprised if we make the playoffs next year. Book it!
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+9 #50 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:40
More good news as it sounds like Michalek will join the team on this upcoming two game road trip. Could play as early as tomorrow night.
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0 #51 Estaban89 2011-03-21 10:40
Today's a good day! Now I'm curious who's gonna be next year's backup
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+1 #52 winnipegsens91 2011-03-21 10:41
Quoting WeAreSensFans!:
wow rear loading the contract is the opposite from what is normally done, but in all a good deal.


its actually very smart because the sens will be paying anderson lower then the cap hit the first couple years, then they could possibly trade him to another team and the other team would have to pay the rest of the contract at 3.5m but the cap hit will be at 3.2 only
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+4 #53 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 10:42
That's awesome news too Chirp. It will be nice to have MM9 back. I wonder who we will be sending down. Lessard hopefully haha
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-14 #54 SENSible Voice 2011-03-21 10:44
Too much... too long... This guy has never proven himself to be a #1 goalie hence why this is his 4th team. He had a good start here, nothing we haven't seen happen before with new goalies. He was ordinary in his last couple of starts.

I was happy with what Murray had done so far but this one will hurt, especially in year 3 and 4.
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+2 #55 PraiseAlfie84 2011-03-21 10:45
That's a good amount of money for him, I was hoping for under 3.5M and that's what we got. Great signing by Murray, I'm glad to see him stay on as GM, he's definitely taking us down the right path for the rebuild....

Chirp, so now that we know Anderson is our #1 and Lehner will most likely be playing in Bingo for a few seasons, do we keep McElhinney as our back-up or....? Who is going to be filling that role?
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+2 #56 Patrick1 2011-03-21 10:46
Great signing and at a good number. It is exactly what this franchise needed. Now let's go out and get RNH with the 3rd overall pick. Then let's use our second first and a 2nd to move up.
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+6 #57 PraiseAlfie84 2011-03-21 10:47
Quoting SENSible Voice:
Too much... too long... This guy has never proven himself to be a #1 goalie hence why this is his 4th team. He had a good start here, nothing we haven't seen happen before with new goalies. He was ordinary in his last couple of starts.


Ummm....What about last year when he was abosutely on fire for the Avs? I'd say he proved himself there, wouldn't you?
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+2 #58 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:47
Quoting PraiseAlfie84:
That's a good amount of money for him, I was hoping for under 3.5M and that's what we got. Great signing by Murray, I'm glad to see him stay on as GM, he's definitely taking us down the right path for the rebuild....

Chirp, so now that we know Anderson is our #1 and Lehner will most likely be playing in Bingo for a few seasons, do we keep McElhinney as our back-up or....? Who is going to be filling that role?

Murray indicated that he will be looking for a veteran guy to fill that role. McElhinney has done a fine job in his audition so far.
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0 #59 Ryan 2011-03-21 10:48
hey chirp what about curtis mcelhinney what are there plans with him? And if they dont sign him do they plan on signing a goalie in free agency?
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0 #60 visser85 2011-03-21 10:48
Is it possible that Melnyk wanted a rear loaded contract so that he wouldn't lose more money in the next couple seasons (assuming the rebuild means no playoffs) and that he's willing to pay more when we should be contending again? He seems to be heavily involved in what Murray does, so I thought that might make sense.

I'm not sure how I feel about Murray staying on as the GM past this season. He has done a good job blowing the team up, but he had to do that based on his previous moves. It seems like we're implementing the same type structure again next year. Same GM and yet another Rookie NHL Coach (Cameron) with no NHL experience. Something should change somewhere. Grooming a potential successor for GM would be nice, however with Murray's nephew as the assistant GM, that likely won't change either.
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+1 #61 JABSmilez 2011-03-21 10:51
Quoting The Dutch Treat:
And before you get angry JABS, I'm just joshin' ya~!


Consider me joshed ;)

As long as he plays well enough to stay as a true #1 I will be happy.

GO SENS GO!!!
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+5 #62 SensChirp 2011-03-21 10:53
The contract does not have a NMC, according to a tweet from Ian Mendes.
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-5 #63 Alex t 2011-03-21 10:56
Why do people think this is a legitemate option? A few good games does not an atrocious career erase. He was a sieve in calgary and everywhere else since. He hasn't even looked good, yes results are what matter but you know part of it is strictly because of the energy brought in by the young guys. He is not an option . In a back-up I only want 1 thing, that's someone who doesn't hurt us and he for sure will!
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-1 #64 Alex t 2011-03-21 10:57
Mcelhinney that is
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-2 #65 Captain Alfie 2011-03-21 10:59
Whoa. I like him when he is on but 4 years at more than we ever payed Ray Emery is crazy for a so far streaky goalie.
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+4 #66 Mark 2011-03-21 11:03
Quoting SensChirp:
Murray also mentioned this morning that the club will not be extending Pascal Leclaire.


seriously??? that's shocking!!!! (mock shock)
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+6 #67 St Nick 2011-03-21 11:03
Good deal at an affordable price for a #1 goalie in the NHL. I assume that MacElhinney will signed next for a yr or two which will solidify our goaltending woes from previous seasons & allow Lehner to develop properly in Bingo.

Once the Frozen Four is over with in a week or so I hope that Murray announces the signing of Paul Thompson of New Hampshire. That would add another top 6 forward to the ranks although I would think he would need some time in Bingo just like Butler. Looking good for the Sens in this rebuild.
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+5 #68 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-21 11:05
What a Deal!

basically a 3M cap hit? Hell, we can afford that even if he ends up playing backup! The back loaded deal is also smart because if our rebuild takes that long that we still aren't in the playoffs by year 4 we can trade him to a team that needs a goalie and they will be paying his most expensive year.

This guy is a good goalie, he carried the Avs to respectability behind a shakey defence last year, and this year was the difference between them being competitive or last place in the league. That much has become obvious since they went from bad to horrific after the goalie switch.

Well played Murray!
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+3 #69 Johne 2011-03-21 11:05
go sens go!
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-3 #70 PraiseAlfie84 2011-03-21 11:06
Guys, really, every single goalie has bad nights, look at Backstrom last night, he got shelled to pieces and he's way better than Anderson...Peop le need to stop thinking that Anderson is going to be playing in the top 10 goalies in the league, he's here to solidify a #1 spot while we go through the growing pains, he's not here to take us to a championship, so stop knocking the guy so much...

One thing I will say though, I'm tired of Murray handing out these NMC like it's going out of style. It seems every played in the league knows that if they are comign to Ottawa they are going to be getting a NTC/NMC, so they come here to sign for their country club pass...I'm not a fan of that at all...
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+1 #71 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-21 11:06
As for people saying we "messed up our draft position next year", enough with that whiny stuff (I'm looking at you Tcharger) - do you Tank endorsers really think that this team next year with all it's players healthy and ready to rebound (Spezza, Michalek, Kuba, etc.), no Mike Fisher wasting valuable minutes, enthusiastic young talent flooding the roster, and guys like Phillips and Gonchar ready to get more comfortable and rebound was going to be a bottom feeder again? Hell no.

We would have been a 9-13 place in the conference team next year, with an outside chance of landing a blue chipper in a draft nobody is excited for (I only have heard of two names expected to be highly anticipated picks).

Anderson will make this team exciting and competitive while our young guys develop, especially the 6 guys we'll be picking out of the first 63 picks this year.
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+2 #72 ehcee 2011-03-21 11:07
Good deal!! I would have preferred a 3 year deal.. but he got 1 more year and slightly lower avg i think.. cap hit of $3.18ish/year is not bad... ultimately better/cheaper than Leclaire was.

With the way the backup is playing... i'd ink him to a 1-2 year deal as well... if he keeps his pace up for 1m-ish.
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+12 #73 SensChirp 2011-03-21 11:08
Do people really feel that $3.1 mil is an overpayment? Guy was in the running for the Vezina last year.

The fact that it's a four year deal is actually fairly insignificant both because the cap hit is low and there is no NTC or NMC.

We finally have a #1 goalie!
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+4 #74 Andrews Theory 2011-03-21 11:08
what's not to like...

i think we all would have preferred 3 years but the money is reasonable.

Murray is going to sign McElhinny as the backup removing any doubt from Lenhner's mind that he's spending next season in Bingo to mature and develop (preferably as the starter). nice to see 9 mm back...
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+4 #75 SensChirp 2011-03-21 11:09
This deal DOES NOT include a no trade clause or no movement clause.
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+2 #76 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-21 11:11
I can't understand anyone who thinks this is an overpayment. basically 3 Mill for a guy who can be a starter in the NHL and the deal has no NTC or NMC.

Flawlessly done IMO.
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0 #77 Andrews Theory 2011-03-21 11:11
chirp,

i didnt get a chance to comment on your feedback request the other day but to build on what others have said.

simplicity is best. when you make changes to a site like this you want it to evolve over time not completely transform over night. This is no different than when a company roles out a new application...y ou don't offfer all the bells and whistles immmediately, you start with the basics and add more over time.

the ability to stay logged in by using our google account with the last site was the big differentiator for me.
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+2 #78 PraiseAlfie84 2011-03-21 11:11
Quoting SensChirp:
This deal DOES NOT include a no trade clause or no movement clause.


WHOOPS! Totally read your previous post wrong Chrip, sorry about that! That makes this deal even better! haha
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+1 #79 Mark 2011-03-21 11:14
great deal as far as Ottawa goaltending signings go...

Gerber - 3 years @ 11M (?)
Leclaire - 2 years @ 9.6M

and I guess everyone forgets Murray chasing Khabibulin at $6.75M a year with 2 years left back in March 2010

$3.25M a year for 4 years is a friggin steal compared to those shitass deals Murray has offered.
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+3 #80 winonesoon 2011-03-21 11:15
Good price for a solid goalie. Personally, i have no issue with the cap hit. Ottawa is known for never having that number 1 goalie so why not lock one up when you have the chance to.

Hopefully he doesn't flop next year now that he got the payout but based on the small sample size that we have seen in our colors he should be ready to hold it down for years to come.

Way to go BM!
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-1 #81 Mark 2011-03-21 11:16
Quoting Mark:
great deal as far as Ottawa goaltending signings go...

Gerber - 3 years @ 11M (?)
Leclaire - 2 years @ 9.6M

and I guess everyone forgets Murray chasing Khabibulin at $6.75M a year with 2 years left back in March 2010

$3.25M a year for 4 years is a friggin steal compared to those shitass deals Murray has offered.



sorry I guess it was 2009 that Murray was looking to "nab" Khabibulin
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+1 #82 Andrews Theory 2011-03-21 11:16
@alex

if Lalime can get a job in this league so can McElhinny.

it's not easy for a backup to play irregularly and ultimatley the sens don't need another debate about who is the undisputed starter. this would mark the first time in a long long time the there is no debate and the goalies know their role.

also, Kipper, Lungo and even Brodeur have gone through periods where they were attrocious. It happens...
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-1 #83 Joe 2011-03-21 11:30
NHL TOTALS:
Craig Anderson:
GP-180 W-74 L-68 T-20 SO-14 GAA-2.77 SVP-.913

Martin Gerber:
GP-226 W-110 L-78 T-21 SO-10 GAA-2.65 SVP-.910

Pascal Leclaire:
GP-159 W-57 L-69 T-14 SO-10 GAA-2.89 SVP-.903

Patrick Lalime:
GP-437 W-200 L-169 T-32 SO-35 GAA-2.57 SVP-.905

Dominik Hasek:
GP-735 W-389 L-223 T-82 SO-81 GAA-2.20 SVP-.922

Not trying to be a downer but this should be more of the same. Dominik Hasek was the only game break goalie the sens ever had. Anderson's stats are eerily similar to Martin Gerber's.
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-1 #84 Zira1 2011-03-21 11:33
Good Deal. Cap hit is good and will give Rehner time to develop in the AHL. (He needs it). At the end of Andy's contract Rehner should be ready and will still be only 23. Somebody on Twitter said that Murray is going to sign a #1 goalie this summer. Have you heard that?
I think we should get used to having Murray around for a while longer but as far as I'm concerned he has done a good job with drafts, ridding the bad contracts and the kids in the system so why not?
Watching the team next year is going to be exciting. Young and new players and good goaltending is a great start for our Sens for the next few years. I realize this forum is for sharing our thoughts, good or bad, but I hope most of us can think positively because the next few years is going to be a lot of fun!!
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-4 #85 Tookie 2011-03-21 11:41
This sets up perfectly for Murray to offer sheet Parise!!
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-1 #86 PraiseAlfie84 2011-03-21 11:50
Quoting Tookie19:
This sets up perfectly for Murray to offer sheet Parise!!


I really hope that was a joke....I'm so tired of hearing abour Parise coming to Ottawa, for the last time it's just not going to happen....
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+3 #87 fireball8992 2011-03-21 11:50
Quoting Tookie19:
This sets up perfectly for Murray to offer sheet Parise!!


Murray isn't going to offer sheet Parise, simply because it would have to be in the 6-7.5 mil range, and a rebuilding team is not going to give up 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd for one player. They could trade for him, packaging a roster player and a pick and prospect though. Although, I'm pretty sure teams with similar offers will be able to beat out the Sens
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+2 #88 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 11:51
Parise will be wearing a red, black and white jersey next season, but it WON'T have an Ottawa Senators logo on the front of it.
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+4 #89 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-21 11:55
Quoting Joe:


Not trying to be a downer but this should be more of the same. Dominik Hasek was the only game break goalie the sens ever had. Anderson's stats are eerily similar to Martin Gerber's.


Joe, The difference is that most of Gerber's wins came in a three year period where he was a part of a Carolina team that won the cup, and a Senators team that was one of the league's best.

Anderson posted those stats on bottom feeding horrible teams in Florida and Colorado, and Chicago when they were awful and he was early in his career. Most people who don't like the signing probably don't really know much about his career - he took about 5 years to develop after he was drafted (pretty standard as far as goalies go), then posted great stats in Florida as Vokouns backup for two seasons, before being used as a starter in Colorado, which he has done an admirable job of. He is not Martin Gerber.
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-2 #90 Tookie 2011-03-21 11:55
@ Fireball8992

As explained many times before having Parise on our team would be more beneficial than having those picks, seeing as those picks wont be NHL rdy or even come close to Parise' caliber.

Plus if we make the playoffs or finish anywhere from 1st to 9th those picks are late first rounders and well worth giving up for a player of Parise' caliber.

Plus we have Petersson, Sorenson, Stone, Silfverberg, Lehner, Caporusso (plus whoever we draft with the NSH pick) in the system and developing.
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+2 #91 The Dutch Treat 2011-03-21 12:00
Quoting Joe:
NHL TOTALS:

Not trying to be a downer but this should be more of the same. Dominik Hasek was the only game break goalie the sens ever had. Anderson's stats are eerily similar to Martin Gerber's.


Except, you know, Anderson plays BETTER under pressure and doesn't wilt into a wobbly crying mess. That and he looks good in the playoffs when games count. But yeah, other than that, they're practically the same.
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+1 #92 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-21 12:01
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Parise will be wearing a red, black and white jersey next season, but it WON'T have an Ottawa Senators logo on the front of it.


Agree with Alfie For Mayor !!

It would take a Kings' Ransom to even try to steal Zach Parise from Lou Lamoriello, who is shedding salary to be able to sign Parise before July 1st 2011 .
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+3 #93 Bob Swarley 2011-03-21 12:05
People who are complaining about 3.18 are out of their mind. If Niemi can get 3.8, Anderson at 3.2 is a great contract. He's been a world beater at times and good/very good other times. At that price, good/very is what you're looking for. I used to have a close connection with a member of the Blackhawks coaching staff from when he played there and this person had nothing but good things to say about Anderson.

No reason to complain. This is a happy day.
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-1 #94 Tookie 2011-03-21 12:18
@ Snoopy Senior

I doubt all the salary shedding is all going for 1 player, NJ are desperate for players, at one point they were playing with 15 players. They have no other choice but to spread the money around.
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+4 #95 RUSHRLZ 2011-03-21 12:22
I like the fourth yeah, it means Anderson will be here to contribute when the Sens hoist the Cup not only in 2014 but 2015 as well!
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+4 #96 my2sens 2011-03-21 12:23
Awesome deal!! Anderson must have been so excited by this deal when sitting at Bryan's desk he missed the 'no trade clause' candy jar!

SC Any word on Mcelhinney (splg?)??

GO SENS GO!
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+2 #97 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-03-21 12:26
I think Chirp nailed it on the head.

3.1 is a complete robbery for a guy like this. Look at how much we've paid Leclaire, to play all of his 10 games as a Senator.

This is a character guy who is good. Not amazing, but good.

In my opinion, 4 years is too long, considering in 4 years Lehner is expected to grow into the number one role, but not having the NMC or NTC is the added bonus. With a low cap hit and not having either of those Clauses, it makes trading him fairly feasible.

However I personally saw Robin Lehner our number one after next season.

Guess we'll have to wait and see
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+1 #98 Peter Sidørkiewicz 2011-03-21 12:28
So long Snoopy - we hardly knew ye.
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+1 #99 Mark 2011-03-21 12:31
Quoting Zira1:
Somebody on Twitter said that Murray is going to sign a #1 goalie this summer. Have you heard that?


um... I think we just did....
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+1 #100 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 12:31
Tookie I used to think you were a realist, now you've just become a dreamer. New Jersey will do whatever they have to do in order to keep Parise, who is after-all, their best player. If it means burying guys like Rolston, Zubrus or Salvador in the minors then that's what they'll do.

The offer sheet may not even be a possibility. New Jersey has a right to give him a qualifying offer which would protect him from other teams giving him an offer sheet.

If Parise does become available, most teams in the league will be extremely interested and I just can't see us ponying up the best offer.
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+1 #101 Mark 2011-03-21 12:36
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Parise will be wearing a red, black and white jersey next season, but it WON'T have an Ottawa Senators logo on the front of it.


Agree with Alfie For Mayor !!

It would take a Kings' Ransom to even try to steal Zach Parise from Lou Lamoriello, who is shedding salary to be able to sign Parise before July 1st 2011 .


more likely we grab Carter - philly is going to get knocked out in the first round becuase of questionable goaltending and decide to mine some of their riches for a bonfied #1
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0 #102 Hey_Zeus 2011-03-21 12:40
The only thing that makes me apprehensive is the fact that I have still not recovered from years of Ottawa being an organization where goalies go to die.

That said, Anderson is the first goalie in a long time to give me hope and I really hope he holds up. 4 years is a long time if this turns out to be a mistake. Kudos to Murray on not giving him a no trade/move clause.

Also, I guess this means Murray is here to stay.
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+1 #103 Acilladon 2011-03-21 12:45
for under 3.2/yr cap hit i think this is a really good sign.. lets hope he stays consistent though
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+2 #104 Lurker 2011-03-21 12:47
I love this deal!

Very reasonable cap hit for a true #1 goaltender.

I really like the way this rebuild is going and very glad that all signs seem to be pointing to Murray getting an extension.
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+2 #105 TheAndswer 2011-03-21 12:51
Sick! Now I don't need to change my user name! But seriously, a great signing especially for a team that will have a much younger blue line in the year to come. Now the young D-men (and even Gonchar and Kuba) won't have to worry so much about a mistake ending up in the back of their net.
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+1 #106 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 12:55
Quoting Mark:
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Parise will be wearing a red, black and white jersey next season, but it WON'T have an Ottawa Senators logo on the front of it.


Agree with Alfie For Mayor !!

It would take a Kings' Ransom to even try to steal Zach Parise from Lou Lamoriello, who is shedding salary to be able to sign Parise before July 1st 2011 .


more likely we grab Carter - philly is going to get knocked out in the first round becuase of questionable goaltending and decide to mine some of their riches for a bonfied #1



Mark, Carter signed an extension through 2022 for 5.2 a season. I don't think that's going to happen either bro.
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+4 #107 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-03-21 12:58
Murray deserves to stay for all that he's been doing.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Bryan Murray is a good GM. Made a couple of mistakes, but what GM as an absolute perfect track record.

I think Clouston can do some good for us next season, too; even for only one year. I doubt it, but I still do believe that he's a good coach.
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+2 #108 SensChirp 2011-03-21 13:00
Eklund's latest is awesome. Takes a piece of Sens news and interprets as Spezza rumours.
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+1 #109 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 13:05
Quoting SensChirp:
Eklund's latest is awesome. Takes a piece of Sens news and interprets as Spezza rumours.


That's priceless. Thanks to you I had to visit HB for the first time since before the deadline. Thanks a lot Chirp!!
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+1 #110 Joe Bob 2011-03-21 13:07
Looks like traffic to your blog has picked up again Chirp :)

102 comments in 3 hours.

Can someone please explain why we are (the fans and team) relying on Lehner to become a legit starting goaltender. He had a good (nothing spectacular) World Juniors (mainly because of the clinic he put on against the Russians) and had a 27-13-3 record with the Sault in 2009-2010. Good numbers but hardly enough to go by. I know he's young, a big body, and has a competitive edge, but why is he being regarded as our next number 1? I would love for him to succeed but I'm not getting my hopes up. As a Sens fan, I'm accustomed to bad luck regarding our goaltending situation. I’m hoping a Sens fan with more knowledge of Lehners background can fill me in.
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+1 #111 boom 2011-03-21 13:11
Hey Chirp (or anyone), have you heard any rumours or news on any of the NCAA guys, like DeCosta?
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+2 #112 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 13:11
Joe Bob is completely right. The only reason people are pegging Lehner as our future is because he's the only goaltending prospect we have to get excited about. I'm hoping we draft another highley touted goalie in this years draft. One thing you can never have too much of is quality goaltenders.
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+1 #113 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-21 13:13
Quoting fireball8992:
Quoting Tookie19:
This sets up perfectly for Murray to offer sheet Parise!!


Murray isn't going to offer sheet Parise, simply because it would have to be in the 6-7.5 mil range, and a rebuilding team is not going to give up 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd for one player. They could trade for him, packaging a roster player and a pick and prospect though. Although, I'm pretty sure teams with similar offers will be able to beat out the Sens


The Devils have already sent Jason Arnott and Jamie Langenbrunner off their roster , to free up money for Parise. Arnott is now with Capitals, and Langenbrunner is back with Dallas.

No way any team wants to overpay for Zach Parise.
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-1 #114 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 13:17
@Snoopy Senior

Both Langdenbrunner and Arnott are UFA's this summer I believe.
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0 #115 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 13:20
How bout Emery getting the NHL's 2nd star of the week. Good for him! I always enjoy a good comeback story.
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0 #116 SensChirp 2011-03-21 13:21
Quoting boom:
Hey Chirp (or anyone), have you heard any rumours or news on any of the NCAA guys, like DeCosta?

Won't hear anything new for a week at least. Paul Thompson and Stephane Da Costa are both in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tourny.

Have to wait until their season is over.
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0 #117 SensChirp 2011-03-21 13:24
By the way, sure is nice to see some chatter in here. Biggest issue really was the lack of news I guess! (Not that there aren't others)
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+3 #118 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-03-21 13:44
Good signing my Murray.

He mentioned in the press conference that he anticipated the UFA goalies this off season, Bryzgalov and Vokoun, to resign. That's pretty bang on. There's no way Phoenix and Florida would let those two franchise goalies walk. If we were to wait around we would have nobody in net or next season.
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0 #119 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-03-21 13:46
So Chirp, is Lehner going to back up Answerson next season, or stay in Bingo?
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+2 #120 WeAreSensFans! 2011-03-21 13:47
Time to buy the Anderson jersey!
And when is the last time you bought a jersey of a sens goalie? me? never! until now
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+1 #121 JRMcPeeWee 2011-03-21 13:54
I think the Anderson signing is a good one.

I read Eklund for the comedic value.
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+6 #122 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 13:59
If anyone hasn't seen the Anderson interview about the signing I suggest you go watch it over on the Sens main page. He's awesome! The way he raves about the organization is something that will make us all feel proud to be Sens fans!
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+1 #123 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 14:00
Oh nevermind, I just realized Chirp has the video up on the Home page. Watch it there!!!
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+2 #124 akr71 2011-03-21 14:01
I like the 4 years. Lehner is still quite young & it takes longer for goalies to fully develop. He certainly didn't get much playing time this year. This deal totally takes all the pressure of Lehner as being our 'saviour' He can spend 2 years in Bingo developing and get hungry - the only pressure will be him putting pressure on himself to try and steal the starting job away from Anderson in years 2,3 & 4.
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+1 #125 Joe Bob 2011-03-21 14:03
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
So Chirp, is Lehner going to back up Answerson next season, or stay in Bingo?


Murray is hoping Lehners stays in Bingo next season as their starting goaltender. He needs playing time so the team can assess if he's ready for the bigs in 2012-2013. I don't expect to see him play at all next season unless we have injury problems with Anderson/Mc.
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+2 #126 EricBoris 2011-03-21 14:03
Compliment sandwich time.

Positive: Goaltending stability for the foreseeable future.

Negative: What if (likely to happen—given our history with goalies) he's made of glass, or just turns to crap, then that stability becomes an expensive nuisance.

Positive: Character player. Seems to know how to handle the puck, and communicates well with his defencemen.

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+3 #127 SensChirp 2011-03-21 14:12
Just realized the gray on gray is still in the dang popup comment section. Hopefully we can get this fixed up tonight.
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+6 #128 SensChirp 2011-03-21 14:12
Also, I'm leaning towards a change that will include the full text of an article on the home page. Seemed to be the suggestion I heard most often.
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+2 #129 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 14:33
Does anyone know when Team Canada starts their selections for the World Championships? Hopefully Spezza gets the call. They would be stupid not to select him. He's been on fire.
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+3 #130 UnbeLeafer 2011-03-21 14:34
AT LAST !

This is a great signing. Solid competent goaltending for four years. What a terrific way to look forward to next season. Well done Murray.
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+1 #131 SensChirp 2011-03-21 14:42
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Does anyone know when Team Canada starts their selections for the World Championships? Hopefully Spezza gets the call. They would be stupid not to select him. He's been on fire.

Spezza is a slam dunk. Karlsson and Foligno will likely go too. Wonder if the USA looks at Anderson?
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+2 #132 JABSmilez 2011-03-21 14:45
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Does anyone know when Team Canada starts their selections for the World Championships? Hopefully Spezza gets the call. They would be stupid not to select him. He's been on fire.


I agree and his increased role on the PK, his faceoff % and his growth as a leader will help his cause. I know Canada has an incredible amount of centers, but he's definitely still at the top of the list of available players.
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0 #133 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-21 14:56
The only guy I could see not being in the playoffs that is considered a better top pivot than Spezza might be Getzlaf, but even then the ducks have made a big push lately The rest of our good Canadian centermen are on playoff teams.
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0 #134 Andrews Theory 2011-03-21 14:57
great improvements on the site in the past few days chrip...

having the comments go right to the top and also having them all load in one window without having to flip is a huge difference maker.

I have a feeling you had the same number of readers checking out the site and reading your articles barring the "blocked site" issue but people weren't starying on the site and weren't posting near as often.

speaking of posting as often.... HAX where'd you go? you seem to have dropped off the face of sens chrip...
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+2 #135 Phil 2011-03-21 14:58
We finally get a goalie that can stop puck on a consistant basis and people still complain! I think it's hilarious! Come on it's for four years so what! and ay 3 mil, it's a very decent contract! Good job Murray one of your decent trades/signings !
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-4 #136 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-21 14:59
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Does anyone know when Team Canada starts their selections for the World Championships? Hopefully Spezza gets the call. They would be stupid not to select him. He's been on fire.


I'd rather see Spezza skip the meaningless World Championships, rest up any injuries he may have, and then get to work on having a dominant season next year.

It's not like he hasn't had tonnes of playoff experience, and done the WC thing before. But, he'll probably go and do well.
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+2 #137 Sandy 2011-03-21 14:59
Quoting SENSible Voice:
Too much... too long... This guy has never proven himself to be a #1 goalie hence why this is his 4th team. He had a good start here, nothing we haven't seen happen before with new goalies. He was ordinary in his last couple of starts.

I was happy with what Murray had done so far but this one will hurt, especially in year 3 and 4.


Who did you expect to be Sens #1 goalie next season?
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+2 #138 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 15:00
Quoting RhinoceRoss:
The only guy I could see not being in the playoffs that is considered a better top pivot than Spezza might be Getzlaf, but even then the ducks have made a big push lately The rest of our good Canadian centermen are on playoff teams.


Don't forget about Eric Staal too.
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0 #139 fireball8992 2011-03-21 15:00
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:


The Devils have already sent Jason Arnott and Jamie Langenbrunner off their roster , to free up money for Parise. Arnott is now with Capitals, and Langenbrunner is back with Dallas.

No way any team wants to overpay for Zach Parise.


Err, okay don't really know what that has to do with what I said. By your explanation, that would mean that even if Parise was signed to an offer sheet (let's say 6.5 mil for the hell of it), New Jersey could and would match.

Really don't know why Murray had to go out and mention Parise as a guy they're going to pursue, I almost believe he said it to throw the media and everyone off so that he can go after the guy they really want that much more quietly
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0 #140 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-21 15:07
As for Anderson...

Kind of skeptical on the 4th year (but the money is about what I expected), it seems pretty standard for Murray to hand out an extra year to get a deal done. It's great to hear there is no NTC/NMC, that will be key later on down the road.

This will give time for Lehner, and any other young goalie they draft. I am strongly in favour of them drafting one of John Gibson, Christopher Gibson or Samu Perhonen in this years draft. They can't put all their eggs in one basket with Lehner.
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+1 #141 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 15:09
John Q,

"I'd rather see Spezza skip the meaningless World Championships, rest up any injuries he may have, and then get to work on having a dominant season next year.

It's not like he hasn't had tonnes of playoff experience, and done the WC thing before. But, he'll probably go and do well."

Spezza said himself that he really wants to play, and that he isn't ready for his season to end. He says he feels great right now and is motivated to win a gold medal. World Championships or not, as a guy that has already won 2 Silver medals, the gold means a lot to him.

I'd like to see him go and show everyone, not just us Sens fans, how much he has evolved as an all situations player.
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+2 #142 Sandy 2011-03-21 15:15
I like the signing. Cap hit makes no matter right now.. as Sens will not be a 'cap' team for several years.

There is only 10 games left in the regular season... so the timing was right. If he would have hit July 1st -- the numbers would have been a lot higher.

Parise will not get any offer sheet. If he is not signed by a certain date.. either NJ will qualifying him or file for arbitration -- thus avoided any offer sheet from any team.

Great news about Michalek... who goes down to Bingo -- Wick?
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-1 #143 Sandy 2011-03-21 15:17
Another note, Chirp... do you think it's a possibility that the Sens go after both Da Costa & Thompson?

That would enable them to be quite creative with the picks this year... especially combining Nashville's pick with one or two of the 2nd's Sens have to move up higher in the draft?
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+2 #144 boom 2011-03-21 15:20
@Sandy,

Yeah, I'm really curious to see how hard they go after these guys. Murray seemed to indicate that they have a good chance of signing one of them in his oress conference eh?
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-1 #145 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-21 15:22
@ fireball8992,

We will never know who Murray will target, but it will be someone of the caliber of Parise.

That might happen before July 1st, or even during the off season, and before training camp opens .
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-2 #146 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-21 15:43
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
John Q,

Spezza said himself that he really wants to play, and that he isn't ready for his season to end. He says he feels great right now and is motivated to win a gold medal. World Championships or not, as a guy that has already won 2 Silver medals, the gold means a lot to him.

I'd like to see him go and show everyone, not just us Sens fans, how much he has evolved as an all situations player.


Winning the gold medal at the WC is cute and all, but that tournament is rather meaningless. I'd much rather see Spezza dedicate himself to truly living up to the $7 million he is paid in the NHL. I would like to see him dedicate this off-season to the Ottawa Senators (not the WC) and get into the best shape of his life. He can show everyone, and not just Sens fans, what kind of player and leader his is in the 2011-12 NHL SEASON... not the 2011 WC.

But that's just my opinion.
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0 #147 krod84 2011-03-21 15:50
I'm not so sure about the length of the contract, 4 years is a very big commitment to a goalie that has been a backup for most of his career... hopefully job security and an exciting team in front of him will keep his confidence at a high level and we can get this re-built on the fast track... i'm not even that excited for the NHL playoffs at this point, just isn't the same without going to SBP for a spring playoff game!
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-4 #148 EMG 2011-03-21 15:52
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+4 #149 m410 2011-03-21 15:59
I'm excited about this. The thought of finally shoring up the back end is thrilling. But lets face it, this is not the first time we've seen this story. Hasek, Gerber, Leclaire were all brought in under similar expectations. I'm optimistic this will work out, but cautiously so. In any event, the contract isn't huge and won't hurt the GM's ability to make other moves if need be.
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+2 #150 conor smythe 2011-03-21 16:10
Quoting SensChirp:
Also, I'm leaning towards a change that will include the full text of an article on the home page. Seemed to be the suggestion I heard most often.


also chirp, the 'be the first to comment' link should open the pop out comments. then the site will work just like the old one
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+2 #151 SensChops 2011-03-21 16:14
Quoting m410:
I'm excited about this. The thought of finally shoring up the back end is thrilling. But lets face it, this is not the first time we've seen this story. Hasek, Gerber, Leclaire were all brought in under similar expectations. I'm optimistic this will work out, but cautiously so. In any event, the contract isn't huge and won't hurt the GM's ability to make other moves if need be.


I completely agree with you. Seems many are saying it's the first time in a long time they have hope and we have a true #1 goalie. I won't lie and not admit that I thought Leclaire was going to be a good #1. If you can recall, he had an excellent year with his old club too(12 SO or something). Sens fans always seem to have very high expectations for goalies and if they falter a tiny bit, we run them out of town. Don't take me the wrong way. I love the deal we got for Anderson. I just hope we don't send him to the graveyard.
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+1 #152 keyhoh 2011-03-21 16:18
I think this is a fantastic contract at a perfect length. Think about where this team will be in 4 years if all goes according to plan. We'll be on the precipice of Cup contention. Do you really want a still new and inexperienced netminder behind the team, or the veteran who will be at the end of his contract and playing for a paycheck? This is a great move, also 'cause it puts the pressure on Lehner to nut up or shut up.
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+4 #153 army 2011-03-21 16:20
@ john Q Stamkos went to the WC lit it up and has been one of the best players in the NHL ever since, It could be a huge confidence booster for spezza and I think the organization will definately recommend him going. Sometimes guys need to remember what it feels like to win again to boost there game. Spezza has played awesome since he came back from injury, this will do nothing but make his game better.
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+2 #154 Sensnation 2011-03-21 16:21
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

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Spezza said himself that he really wants to play, and that he isn't ready for his season to end. He says he feels great right now and is motivated to win a gold medal. World Championships or not, as a guy that has already won 2 Silver medals, the gold means a lot to him.

I'd like to see him go and show everyone, not just us Sens fans, how much he has evolved as an all situations player.


I agree, he should definitely go and keep working on his skills in game and on-ice instead of in the weight room. Spezza is still probably eying the next Olympics as well, and it would be in his best interest to suit up for Canada whenever he can until then so that the guys at hockey Canada take notice as well. If Mike Green & Spezza were both previously left off due to their defensive abilities, they are both doing all they can to fix that part of their games.
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+2 #155 NickG 2011-03-21 16:21
This is a great signing. Now, we just need to buy a whole bunch of bubble-wrap to protect him. Luckily Mike Fisher is no longer here to take shots at his head. LOL

Such a humble guy too. He always seems so grateful in his interviews. And by him not requesting a lot of money, it leaves the team with more cap space to stack up the front end now.
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+1 #156 army 2011-03-21 16:26
@chirp ppl on twitter saying sens have recalled wierchioc any truth? Would b nice to see him get a coouple games
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0 #157 Sandy 2011-03-21 16:27
The World Championship is in May. Training camp is Sept. I'm sure he has more than enough time to get himself ready for next season.

Go to the WC and have great games.. but then again.. the GM of the Worlds is a 'LEAF' exec. Do you really have faith in that? LOL
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+1 #158 NickG 2011-03-21 16:29
Quoting Sandy:
The World Championship is in May. Training camp is Sept. I'm sure he has more than enough time to get himself ready for next season.

Go to the WC and have great games.. but then again.. the GM of the Worlds is a 'LEAF' exec. Do you really have faith in that? LOL

I was seriously mad when I heard that. I mean seriously, what were they thinking?
"This guy has had a failure of a team for the better part of a decade. Let's put him in charge of something really important to the whole Country."
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0 #159 SensChirp 2011-03-21 16:31
Quoting army:
@chirp ppl on twitter saying sens have recalled wierchioc any truth? Would b nice to see him get a coouple games

Saw that. No confirmation from the team yet though.
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+4 #160 NickG 2011-03-21 16:35
BTW: Matt Cooke just got suspended for the rest of the season, and the first round of the playoffs.
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+1 #161 Johne 2011-03-21 16:40
So glad that cooke got some games thrown at him.
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-2 #162 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-21 16:44
Well, if he plays in the WC...

He better have the best season of his career (not point-wise either). Next season is a very important one for Jason Spezza, he is going to be counted on for alot with all the young players. This isn't even including the posibility that he gets injured in a meaningless tournament.

I'm tired of the excuses. I want a complete season of strong play, not just flashes, and injuries.

Yah, I know, i'm in the minority.
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+2 #163 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-21 16:45
Quoting NickG:
BTW: Matt Cooke just got suspended for the rest of the season, and the first round of the playoffs.


Ha, Mario must be happy.
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-1 #164 NickG 2011-03-21 16:53
Quoting John Q. Spartan:
Quoting NickG:
BTW: Matt Cooke just got suspended for the rest of the season, and the first round of the playoffs.


Ha, Mario must be happy.

I fully expect him to trade for/sign someone like Mike Danton and tell him to throw elbows at people's noggins.

Mario's such a hypocrite when it comes to headshots and discipline.
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+1 #165 sensarmy 2011-03-21 16:55
Solid signing. Now he can stop trying to prove his worth and start losing us some games ;) He can play as well as he wants next year!
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+1 #166 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 16:59
@John Q

Man, the WC may not mean all that much to you, but it means something to Spezz. He came in to training camp this season in the best shape of his life according to him and Clouston. I'm not worried about what kind of shape he's in.

He's missed 20 games this season, and if he plays in the WC's it will be like he's played a full season. Plus, don't you want to see him skating alongside other great players like Nash or Iggy if they go? He'll really be able to show everyone what kind of player he really is, a responsible, all round player with crazy offensive abilities.
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+1 #167 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 17:03
See Jabs, we don't disagree about everything afterall :)

I'm really looking forward to the draft to see what Murray has planned. I know I've hated on Murray this season, but since he's been instructed to rebuild this team, I think he's done an excellent job so far.
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-1 #168 NickG 2011-03-21 17:07
Even standing next to a douche, #19/#91 looks good in red.
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Jason+Spezza+Dan+Hamhuis+Canada+v+Latvia+IIHF+0vPFplq_kPzl.jpg
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-3 #169 NickG 2011-03-21 17:10
Ignore this post. Was just testing something.
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-3 #170 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-21 17:30
@AFM

I'd rather see him take some extra skating time with the young players on the Senators, ya know the team that pays him 7 million a year... than head off to a meaningless IIHF exhibition tournament. Yup.

There's is absolutely nothing to be gained by Spezza playing in that tournament. Well, except maybe give him ideas that maybe he'd like to play with some of those guys on a full-time basis.

I think this is one of those agree to disagree things... but i'm more than willing to keep discussing it ;)

P.S. Sorry AFM, couldn't quote you because I only have 1000 characters... that's dumb.
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0 #171 AlfieforMayor11 2011-03-21 17:37
@John Q, I'm having the same problem with that damn quote thing too haha

I agree with what you say in regards to skating with the young guys and training to gt better for next season, but I think he has the chance to go to the WC's and help a young team (according to Nonis and Blake) and then come back here with plenty of time to skate with his Senators teammates and prepare for next season.

He'd be in a situation in the WC's where he'd be looked upon to lead and bring a solid all round game. That sounds very similar to his situation here doesn't it? The extra experience will certainly give him more confidence.
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+1 #172 Sensnation 2011-03-21 17:44
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
See Jabs, we don't disagree about everything afterall :)

I'm really looking forward to the draft to see what Murray has planned. I know I've hated on Murray this season, but since he's been instructed to rebuild this team, I think he's done an excellent job so far.


Agreed, it's nice when we can be on the same page :)

I can only hope that Murray lays some of your fears to rest over the next 6 months to a year and that Anderson lays mine to rest over the next 1-2 years.
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-2 #173 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-21 17:45
Yeah, John Q brings up a good point - Chirp, the 1000 character limit is really low for quoting someone, if they have 600 characters in their post you dont get to say anything really...

I don't see any reason why the two weeks required for the WC isd such an issue though, man - I really don't see any downside to it, the hitting is low, the hockey is good, and winning a gold might be the taste of victory Spezza has never had to give him that extra motivation for his off-season to become one of the best. I have a feeling that you're going to see a massive season from him regardless of whether or not he goes to some short term tournament in May.
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0 #174 Gonzolo 2011-03-21 17:46
@Rizzo

From a player's perspective, the economics of front-loading a contract is based on the universal truth that money is always worth more to you now than at a later time. Getting more money up front allows you to generate more with that capital through investments.

Not sure of all the other factors that would affect a hockey contract, though!
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-1 #175 Sensnation 2011-03-21 17:53
Quoting RhinoceRoss:
Yeah, John Q brings up a good point - Chirp, the 1000 character limit is really low for quoting someone, if they have 600 characters in their post you dont get to say anything really...

I don't see any reason why the two weeks required for the WC isd such an issue though, man - I really don't see any downside to it, the hitting is low, the hockey is good, and winning a gold might be the taste of victory Spezza has never had to give him that extra motivation for his off-season to become one of the best. I have a feeling that you're going to see a massive season from him regardless of whether or not he goes to some short term tournament in May.


Good point RhinoceRoss. With all the hard work Spezza put in last summer and throughout the year this year, it would be nice to see him rewarded for it going into the summer.
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0 #176 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-03-21 17:54
I think that people that have a problem with Anderson's term are oblivious to the fact that Craig Anderson really wants to be an Ottawa Senator. He likes the city, the fans, the guys in the locker room, and wants to stay here for a while.

In a perfect world, Anderson is probably a guy that the team would have liked to keep for maybe 2 years, so that we don't over commit to a guy while a goalie prospect develops and will assume a number one role.

But Craig Anderson doesn't want to be a short term, filler type of project. He wants to win and lose as a Senator,

In my opinion, he's the perfect guy right now to be our number one goalie.

Whether he is consistent enough, only time will tell.
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+2 #177 SensChirp 2011-03-21 18:32
Don't think you need to quote the entire post though. Just pick a selection from the post you are referring to, maybe?
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+3 #178 Dorkiewicz 2011-03-21 18:36
Quoting conor smythe:
Quoting SensChirp:
Also, I'm leaning towards a change that will include the full text of an article on the home page. Seemed to be the suggestion I heard most often.


also chirp, the 'be the first to comment' link should open the pop out comments. then the site will work just like the old one



BINGO! Chirp, please take note of this important detail as your site is almost there!!!
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+2 #179 Dorkiewicz 2011-03-21 18:37
Aside from the grey-on-grey comment box, wondering if anyone else is having trouble with the light-grey on white quotes. Very little contrast, or is it just me???
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0 #180 Rizzo 2011-03-21 18:45
Quoting Faustus:
@Rizzo

From a player's perspective, the economics of front-loading a contract is based on the universal truth that money is always worth more to you now than at a later time. Getting more money up front allows you to generate more with that capital through investments.

Not sure of all the other factors that would affect a hockey contract, though!



I'm confused as to how this is different from what I said. This is a smart contract structure for the Sens. I am much less concerned about its financial impact on Anderson.
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+3 #181 cup run scott 2011-03-21 18:53
I would rather have Mr. Anderson one year too long than one year too short.
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+1 #182 Bob Swarley 2011-03-21 19:10
Quoting John Q. Spartan:
@AFM

I'd rather see him take some extra skating time with the young players on the Senators, ya know the team that pays him 7 million a year... than head off to a meaningless IIHF exhibition tournament. Yup.


You do realize that players don't usually start skating again util late July early August right? Spezza would be hitting the gym still but also relaxing for a bit during the WC's. Having him playing and being a part of a winning atmosphere would be good for him.
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0 #183 Gonzolo 2011-03-21 19:44
Quoting Rizzo:
Also I don't know why everyone wants the contract to be front loaded...it's simple economics. Inflation means that the $3.5 mil that we pay out in year 4 will be worth quite a bit less than $3.5 now. It's actually a very shrewd contract structure, in terms of real dollars.


Guess the wording threw me off - I took 'everyone' to be a reference to players, not SC posters and fans in general.

You're right, from the team's perspective, the deal works in their favour as the real value of the commitment will be eroded over time. More of a bite to the player than a bonus to the organization, but hey, good to see him take his first one for the team.
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+1 #184 The Chef 2011-03-21 20:32
Gives Lehner some time to develop and if the contract turns out to be a bust, it's not a big deal because Ottawa isn't winning the cup in the next 4 years anyway.
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0 #185 Timmac 2011-03-21 20:50
Quoting m410:
I'm excited about this. The thought of finally shoring up the back end is thrilling. But lets face it, this is not the first time we've seen this story. Hasek, Gerber, Leclaire were all brought in under similar expectations. I'm optimistic this will work out, but cautiously so. In any event, the contract isn't huge and won't hurt the GM's ability to make other moves if need be.


To be fair, every goalie signed to every team is brought in under those sorts of expectations if the intent is to bring in a #1 instead of a back-up.
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0 #186 GreeningTheMonster 2011-03-21 22:12
Great signing murray!!
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0 #187 aligator 2011-03-21 22:17
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
So Chirp, is Lehner going to back up Answerson next season, or stay in Bingo?


It has been suggested by Murray that Lehner could do with 2 full seasons in Bingo.
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0 #188 Spensar 2011-03-21 22:58
4 years is one year longer than is ideal, but giving the extra year is a price Ottawa often has to pay to get free agents to sign. It's a long term for 1 full year of great work. Plenty of hot goalies have not panned out over the long term. Leclaire was available because Mason was the new hottness, and now Mason is gone to.

The saving grace is no NTC or NMC so there is trade or waiver flexibility if things don't work out. I am optimistic but we thought the #1 spot had been taken care of before. I am hoping this is a great move, and will watch with great interest.
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0 #189 meadowdog 2011-03-21 23:18
I'm liking the Anderson signing. The numbers are good and the fourth year doesn't bother me at all for a player his age. The best thing is that we don't have to be force fed Robin Lehner before he's earned it.

I'm a little less sure about what to do with McIlhiney. He's looked good here but his track record is less than inspiring. It would be nice to acquire a young goalie with a higher ceiling. I feel competition for playing time is always a good thing. At least one poster suggested McIlhiney should be signed because he's no threat to Anderson as the #1. I see no logic in that position. The better your backup is, the better your team is.
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0 #190 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-22 04:36
Quoting SensChirp:
Don't think you need to quote the entire post though. Just pick a selection from the post you are referring to, maybe?


That might work. Although, I wouldn't want to be accused of misquoting someone (Oh well, we could use a little drama anyways). Ha.
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+1 #191 SensChirp 2011-03-22 06:14
Few more improvements to the site you'll notice this morning. including a favicon, no more gray on gray in the popup comments, Join the discussion on the home page and a jump to last link that takes you to the end of the comment section.

We're getting there!
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0 #192 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-22 06:55
Quoting meadowdog:

I'm a little less sure about what to do with McIlhiney. He's looked good here but his track record is less than inspiring. It would be nice to acquire a young goalie with a higher ceiling.


This. Ideally I'd like to snag a backup who's shown flashes of greatness but with consistency issues, and see if he can be snatched out from whatever team has given up on him. Unfortunately, don't think many teams have those guys floating around..looks like Van and Chicago have finally given their young guys a permanent spot on the roster and most other teams have pretty weak backups.
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-2 #193 paul mcelligott 2011-03-22 07:33
Another unproven goalie to a long term contract. Leclaire really worked out.... Why is Murray still calling the shots? Shouldn't the rebuild start with a new GM?
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+1 #194 Joe Bob 2011-03-22 08:12
Quoting paul mcelligott:
Another unproven goalie to a long term contract. Leclaire really worked out.... Why is Murray still calling the shots? Shouldn't the rebuild start with a new GM?

I don't think there would have been a proven goalie on the open market anyway (without paying trough the ying-yang). Anderson was our best option. The term is a bit long but we're not exactly in a position to compete for the cup so who cares. Either we overpay for one of the few elite goalies (pointless on a rebuilding team), or underpay for a proven dud, I think Andersons contract signing was justified. We have to remember that Anderson is a free agent after this year. I'm sure he held most of the cards when they were negotiating his contact. There is no way that Murray opened with a 4-year contract agreement with Andersons agent. Lets just be happy we have a number 1 and not two number 2's.
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+2 #195 sasksens 2011-03-22 08:14
Good signing. No complaints about term or price.

For comments made about not enough time to view him, I just look back 3 years ago when he played for Florida. Panthers would put Anderson in and invariably he would stand on his head. Rather see him in our uniform than have him rack up wins against us.

Besides 6-4 .934 save% 1 SO

Good numbers for having an inexperienced team in front of him.
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0 #196 Joe Bob 2011-03-22 08:21
Quoting RhinoceRoss:
[quote name="meadowdog"]
I'm a little less sure about what to do with McIlhiney. He's looked good here but his track record is less than inspiring. It would be nice to acquire a young goalie with a higher ceiling.


I've mentioned this before but I'm actually happy with McIrish as our backup. As Sens fans, I think we're all a bit tired of the continuous goaltending controversies surrounding our team. Our number 1 needs to be playing 60+ games a year so he can develop confidence and consistency. Having a backup goalie that is obviously worse than our starter can hopefully fix these goalie controversies. Then again, we have Clouston as a coach.
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+1 #197 Johne 2011-03-22 08:26
Woot! favicon :D
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+1 #198 A Train 2011-03-22 08:30
Quoting paul mcelligott:
Another unproven goalie to a long term contract. Leclaire really worked out.... Why is Murray still calling the shots? Shouldn't the rebuild start with a new GM?

He doesn't have a NMC and the dollars aren't huge. What were Murray's other options? Pay top dollar for Vokoun or Bryz so they can play through a rebuild? Bring in Lehner before he's ready?
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+1 #199 Johne 2011-03-22 08:31
ooooooo snap :D I can read what I'm typing now hahahha.
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0 #200 Johne 2011-03-22 09:36
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - As I speculated they would this morning the Senators have recalled D Patrick Wiercioch to make his NHL debut.
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0 #201 OttawaSensFan 2011-03-22 09:39
Quoting Joe Bob:
Lets just be happy we have a number 1 and not two number 2's.



I guess for me and a few others on here, I am simply not convinced he is a number one goaltender.... There is a reason Colorado traded him for nothing more than Elliot (a goalie who will, in all likelihood, not be playing in the NHL next year). I certainly hope I am wrong and everyone else is right. But to remind everyone, there were also a lot of defenders of Martin Gerber too.
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-1 #202 Jay Riemenshneider 2011-03-22 09:48
I think this signing really puts a damper on Mike Brodeur's ability to make the team next year. I was really pulling for that trooper.
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+1 #203 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-03-22 09:54
Quoting Johne:
http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch - As I speculated they would this morning the Senators have recalled D Patrick Wiercioch to make his NHL debut.


Hey Johne,

Had him slotted in on 3rd pairing, with Hale,
on my Projected Lineup posted on Sens Talk at 8:30 AM this morning !
Nice to see how he performs tonite.
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-1 #204 Sensnation 2011-03-22 09:56
"I know the real Craig Anderson. When I made the trade to acquire him to start off with. He was a guy that in real form, we had a real chance to get him here and get talking to him to sign. There were other goaltenders, very few unrestricted this year. The numbers made sense for us in that we know that Phoenix had a goaltender and Calgary had a goaltender that were going to be unrestricted. And certainly out of respect to them and their organizations.. . I really feel that they'll be kept with the... it's not Calgary, it's Florida that I meant. They will probably try and keep their goaltender," - Murray

Two things about this quote. First, is that Freudian slip proof that Henrik Karlsson is the backup he may be targeting? Not much other reason to have Calgary on your mind.
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-1 #205 Sensnation 2011-03-22 09:57
Second, looks like Murray preferred Vokoun and Bryzgalov too, he just doesn't expect to see them available, like many of you have mentioned.

Some real good quotes from Murray in that news conference.
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+1 #206 Johne 2011-03-22 09:59
As much as we love to get a look at our prospects and hope that they impress, one thing I often fail to remember is that these callups even if theyre a disaster, it really gives the player a scale as to how far they need to improve to be an NHL player, so Wiercioch's play tonight, good or bad, is a positive for this team going forward.
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-1 #207 mothballsuitor 2011-03-22 10:16
I know you all want to be positive about this, but the fact is that it's a huge risk. This man has had exactly one good season since he joined the league in 2002. He's only really been a #1 guy for that one and a half seasons. Yes, he's played well since coming here, but Elliott was good last year. Could you imagine having given him a 4-year deal on the strength of his play during the 11-game winning streak? We'd spend the rest of the contract looking for a way to get rid of him.
And let's face it, Murray's record with goaltenders is not good: Emery, 3-year deal, bought out after year 1; Gerber, 3-year deal, untradeable; Leclaire, made of glass. All of those guys were supposed to be our #1, and all of them failed miserably. The jury's still out on Anderson. I'll see this as a good move if he has a good full season next year, but I'm skeptical. I've seen this movie before.
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0 #208 Johne 2011-03-22 10:24
@Mothball

only one good season?

I remember him playing just as well as Vokoun down in Florida when he took the reigns when Luongo left. Have a little faith with what you've seen this season. Be thankful that we have a goalie that can play more than 20 games a season (LeGlass).
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0 #209 Smash_88 2011-03-22 10:51
Quoting mothballsuitor:

And let's face it, Murray's record with goaltenders is not good: Emery, 3-year deal, bought out after year 1; Gerber, 3-year deal, untradeable; Leclaire, made of glass. All of those guys were supposed to be our #1, and all of them failed miserably. The jury's still out on Anderson. I'll see this as a good move if he has a good full season next year, but I'm skeptical. I've seen this movie before.


In my opinion Emery's deal wasn't bad at all.. It wasn't his on ice play that caused him to get bought out, actually I'd go as far to say Emery was our best goalie overall (Except for the first 5 minutes of a game.. LOL)

Anderson reminds me Emery in the sense that he just makes the saves he is suppose to make, very rarely will he completely steal a game, but give him 2 - 3 goals and he will win the majority of the games. That is all you can ask of a goalie...
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0 #210 IcySurfas 2011-03-22 11:06
@ fireball8992 - At what point did Murray come out and say he was targetting Parise? I hadn't heard anything about that, and tried to look it up just now....nothing.

So where did you get that from? Just curious...
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+1 #211 Joe Bob 2011-03-22 11:29
@mothball

I totally see what you're saying regarding Anderson. He's proven his worth just as much as Lehner has in becoming our next #1 in a few years. However, this is a perfect time to sign a potential #1 (Anderson) and risk having him flop. Unlike previous years, we are in rebuilding phase and can actually afford to lose some games for the purpose of a higher draft pick, this year and next. If we were SC contenders, I would not like this deal as much as I do. Plus, I don't think it would be too hard to get rid of him if he doesn't pan out in a few years. He has "game changing" abilities and that alone will spark interest in contending teams who are desperate for a goaltender and a SC run.
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+2 #212 Joe Bob 2011-03-22 11:40
Regarding Anderson, I do support his new contract agreement and I think he can be our next true #1. However, it's very important for fans to realize that he is bound to lose a bunch of games playing on a defensively liable team like the Sens. He's also bound to get lit up once in a while and have terrible nights in goal. Even the Bobby Lu's of the league have terrible games once in a while. It's just that when playing on a bad team, it's bound to happen more often. Additionally, the fans of a losing team feel the need to find a whipping boy while fans of a winning team usually accept a loss on a team level and move on.
Now that he's here to stay, we need to support this guy. There’s not one goalie in the league today who can make us a playoff team at the moment.
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