Binghamton's next game comes on Friday night when they play in Syracuse.
Ben Bishop and his one way contract will stay here in Ottawa for the time being but you can be certain we haven’t seen the last of Lehner here in Ottawa this season.
Here is the official press release from the Sens website.
- The buzz on Twitter this morning suggests the Sens may be interested in KHL defenceman Viktor Antipin. The 5’10 defenceman has been ripping it up in the KHL and has apparently caught the eye on the Sens organization. This is something to keep an eye on for sure, but not convinced it’s a solution to the current needs here in Ottawa.
- The Detroit Red Wings have signed free agent defenceman and local guy Kent Huskins to help out with their banged up blueline. The Senators were also interested in Huskins.
- The Sens practiced here in Ottawa today and were without Jason Spezza and Daniel Alfredsson who both took “maintenance days.” Safe to assume we’ll hear a lot about players taking days off during a shortened season.
But this is just me being picky
Now go down to Bingo and finish the year there like you started it.
Of course, if a goalie gets moved before the end of this year then he'll be back up, but he shouldn't expect that - just play.
It wouldn't be a one-way contract and I highly doubt this player would be given a chance to play in Ottawa right away so we really have nothing to lose.
Get it done Murray!
I'm still kind of stinging over missing out on Justin Shultz so picking up another gifted dman like Antipin is rumored to be can only help heal the wounds.
I have a strong feeling one of our goaltenders will be traded before the trade deadline. I don't think Murray would trade a 2nd rounder for Bishop only to let him walk away at the end of this season. One of the three goalies will be traded. Bishop is the obvious one to go, but I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Murray receives an offer for Anderson or Lehner that he just can't refuse.
Bishop was exempt on the way down only during the lockout. If he were to go on waivers now we would lose him in a heart beat. Lehner knows he'll be in Ottawa permanently by next October, or sooner if Bishop is traded. It's the best situation for him and Bishop to both see some action. If Bishop plays well as backup, it will increase his trade value. Murray can't leave him sitting in the press box as it will only hurt his development/tra de value.
Confirmed @KatieStrangESP N report that the agent for @thelnino25 asked #Isles for a trade, but team will not move him.
might be perfect for isles to look at loungo now
I am sure this is along the lines of how the conversation went and I have no doubt that Bishop will be traded at the deadline and lehner brought in to backup Andy or he is up full time next season and we unload Bishop in the off season.
He will be in Ottawa next year as the backup... Bishop will be traded.
I don't think any offer for Anderson or Lehner would result in one of them being traded -- unless a superstar was coming the other way. It has been forever since Ottawa had goaltending depth like it does now -- why would they give that up?
It's only two games.. but Anderson has picked up where he left off in the playoffs... playing great.
Bingo needs Lehner.. the other goalies are not getting the job done...
The Sens are positioned so well in all areas, it is ridiculous.
This I don't agree with, not that its a crazy idea just that any team willing to pay a ransom at the dealine for a goalie probably doesn't need a #1 goalie because they are already set. I would think it is harder to bring in a goalie for a cup run than any other player
That being said most of the goalie trades that happen at the deadline are lower teams looking for help (ottawa with bishop and anderson 2 years in a row for example)
Id use Varlamov as a comparable in terms of value, keep in mind that everyone except for Colorado thought Washington got way too much for him
That was a nice return for STL and that would yield us a nice return again.
Again I'm not abshing Bishop I think he is great, but honestly his value shouldn't have increased at all in 1 year as he hasn't done anything more than he had done before. 2nd rounder or B level prospect would get it done
Now with all this being said I stil think his best value is in a trade where Ottawa is the aggressor and looking to package upwards rather than someone else being the aggressor and packaging up to us to get Bishop
Exactly
Varlamov who had 19games of playoff experience, 60 games of regular season experience, was a 1st round pick who had performed fairly well at the NHL level fetched this return:
1st round pick and 2nd round pick
Now lets lok at Bishop's stats:
0 Playoff games in NHl and 1 in AHL
23 regular season games
Again this isn't to bash the guy, hes a great asset and very good goalie, but in terms of trade value, I don't see how he can fetch more than Varlamov, which everyone thought was highway robbery for Washington especially considering they still had Neuvirth
Varlamov went for a 1st and 2nd and at the time he was 23 I believe, a top end goalie prospect and everyone considered it overpayment.
Bishop has not proven anything at NHL level beyond being a decent backup, if that.
I think getting around a 2nd back, or a decent NHL player/prospect would be about what we can expect realistically.
Well said (or written I guess).
I stand by what I posted, Bishop, recognized as a top tier goalie prospect who puts in some solid starts this year could fetch a 1st rounder and a d prospect at the deadline.
Guess we will see Bishop start in Tampa Bay on Friday night.
Then we will see Anderson, start against the Pens on Sunday in Ottawa.
Ya I could care less, not like its a credit score or anything, just hilarious to see
Agreed lol
I sure hope they don't sign another very small defenceman, we already have the smallish Benoit & certainly don't need another one. What Murray should do is bring up Gryba to play with Wiercioch since he is a right shot, a shot blocker & brings an element of toughness this team could use a little more of.
The other answer would be to make a trade for a defenceman but there is no urgency to make a trade right now. Once Bishop increases his value & maybe Regin & Condra they could put a package to deal all three for a good young big defenceman. I wish Murray would have gone after Petry, he's a player this team could use right now.
If he plays some games this season and improves his worth then that works well for the Sens. I think I heard on the Team the other day.. that Bishop has to play 'x' number of NHL games this season or he becomes a UFA at season's end.. which would make it a lot more difficult to get a real good return.
Really happy the way this team is playing so far. Other teams have a choice to make. Send your checking line against Spezza's line and leave Turris's line more room or vice-versa.. Works great for the Sens to have two top scoring lines.. and also lines 3 and 4 who can put the puck in the net as well...
Under the old CBA, I believe the terms were the following:
Group 6 free agents (must be elected by the player): Players who have reached age 25, who have 3 accrued years of professional experience (that is, beyond junior or collegiate hockey), and whose contracts have expired, but have played less than:
1. 80 NHL games played for forwards and defensemen.
2. 28 NHL games played for goaltenders.
According to Hockey DB Bishop has played 23 NHL games. So if he plays 5 games this season he should still be RFA ... under the old CBA terms.
Bishop must play a minimum of 30 minutes in seven games for him to remain an RFA at seasons end as per Andy Strickland. I see no problem with the Stache playing him in at least ten games with the condensed schedule. Or, trade him at the deadline so we at least get a pick/prospect in return. It's a great position to be in, and I'm in no hurry to see Murray pull the trigger on a trade until the right offer comes along.
Still has a top 3 power forward potential.
If Bishop could get some reps in and improve his stats and his value, maybe a deal around Bishop, Hoffman, Condra.
It's too bad he didn't explain it further than that in his article. I guess the couple games where Bishop relieved a goalie for 15-20mins don't count?
Unless I missed it.
Kid is alright - doing the professional thing and doing his job. Disappointed? Sure - but he's *not* going to mope about it.
Huh? Who's unsigned that we need to sign before the draft?
I hope it's ok I put a link here chirp!
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/jrhockey-buzzing-the-net/ottawa-senators-pick-cody-ceci-settling-owen-sound-164108196.html
You are not alone my friend, although it feels like it when our Sens visit and there's 5 of us in the crowd. Which pub are you talking about?
The good news is that we now have a legitimate 2nd line centre who can move into that 1st line centre spot should Spezza get hurt something we haven't real had before unless you count Chris Kelly who did a great job a few yrs ago in Spezza's absence. I also think Zibanejad could be a very good centre for us some day.
another one here (plus the wife and newborn!). Which pub do you go to? when we lived off of 17th ave we'd just go to the boston pizza, got to know the bartender there really well (almost every Sens game) and she ended up giving us a Sens jersey they had in stock :)
Losing 6-1 after the 1st in home opener...
With exception to Yakupov getting his 1st, Edmonton fans must be PISSED!!! Did anyone see the logic of leaving Dubnyk in net after goal number 4? Once Marleau nets two in the span of a minute, deflating any hype Nail did for the team and crowd, you yank him and save his dignity for the night. Instead they ride him out only to have 2 more in a minute span at the end of the 1st.
I can't say Danis is someone I'd want in the net either, but come on. And you could tell that was going to spark something at the half, and sure enough the panel brought up trade suggestions which mentioned Bishop. Feels good to have so much talent in our Goalie position right now.
They should be relegated to the AHL.
The Oilers have just offered "Paul MacClone" their head coaching job.
Just came back from the Edmonton game. Bunch of individuals trying too much. Sharks actually played like a team. Also reminded me of Ottawa the year they missed the playoffs when NONE of our defenders could make a breakout pass. Unless the Oilers get some better defence, they will never win a championship. They need to trade some of their assets imo. No room for all the prospects. Anyways glad I am a sens fan. ALso Scotiabank place is a lot nicer and not any quieter imo
Donegals in the sw by sarcee trail, not to far from my house but the owner saw my sens tatoo on my shoulder and we had a great talk and some beers, if the sens make the playoffs this year you boys should come to the pub, first rounds on me!
sorry guys corner of 37th and 17th ave by the wal mart!
I think you nailed it. Turris really is showing he has the stuff to fill those shoes someday. I look back and I just love that trade!
I know it well. I go there for beers after golfing at Shaganappi. If I'd known the games were always on, I would have been a regular there. I've had Center Ice since I moved out West as Shanks is the only bar that you can count on to play whatever game you want to see, and I live in your neck of the woods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2j4hHMVdI
My God, I feel like I've just met family I never knew about.
There more of us than me in this city?
Sens Army, Western Conference Strong.
Murray said during a couple of interviews last week that Bishop's contract does not allow Ottawa to send him to Bingo. He can only be sent down on a conditioning stint of no more than 2 weeks. Obviously this was negotiated by Bishop and his agent when he signed his one year contract with Ottawa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAgIub0-sVY
Two games in, I am pretty satisfied with what I have seen so far...I think we are in for an exciting year. I know there is a lot of hockey left but I am very encouraged by what I have seen.
Can you guys let me know if things look any better now? Thanks!
It's better Chirp, fits on the screen without scrolling now. Thanks.
As for Bishop, he will likely be parlayed into either a 1st round pick, 2nd rounder + prospect or a top 4/5 D-man.
Teams have to be knocking....EDM , NYI, PHI to name a few. Im sure there are a few more. a big goalie with tons of potential and a cheap cap hit are hard to find.
What intrigues me is what the Sens will do next year and year after with Anderson/Lehner - both these guys are looking quite promising long term.
It's strange, I was pondering the Luongo thing and came to the conclusion that of the 29 teams in the league that aren't Vancouver, we are probably the 29th likeliest team to trade for Luongo.
however, any team that is in goaltending problems and would even consider a overpriced, albeit proven, would be nuts not to see what it would take to pry Bishop out of Ottawa.
Yes not yet proven, but is certainly a bonafide prospect, with all the makings of a very decent goalie.
Not sure which would be more of a risk, a low cost prospect, or a very expensive proven, but faultering veteren
Well you answered it yourself really, he only posts that to try and get more hits.
But yes, theoretically three-way deals are still entirely possible. But since there's nothing we want from Vancouver (that they'd likely include with Lou) I think it's safe to say Ottawa's not looking at it all.
Danny Briere? Big cap hit but only paid a fraction of it in the last two years of the deal. I believe he's from Gatineau, as is his ex wife. Not sure if that's where she's living but she has custody of their kids. Bishop to Vancouver to back up Schneider? I'm sure there would be a lot more to this deal, but Philly has Briere, Giroux, Coutourier, Schenn and Talbot down the middle. They can afford to move Briere, and maybe he'd waive his no trade to come home. The fans in Philly would eat Luongo alive!
Amateurish.
Incredible how many people lost their minds when we sent Rundblad and a 2nd round pick to Yotes for Turris. Look back at some of the archived comments from last year...its hilarious how quickly the "armchair GM's" came out to declare what a horrible trade that was.
As a passionate fan base here in Ottawa, I think we could all exercise a little more patience with the clubs decisions on players. I think Murray has earned enough credit for that.
I know Eklund is usually bullsh** but i cant help looking, it's like a car accident.
My question was more about Ottawa eating cap space (ex: taking half of Luongo's cap hit) and getting prospects or a top 4 dee from philly in return). I was wondering if Ottawa could eat money from a deal rather than taking someone's issue off their hand's (ex: Briere)
Well your clearly wrong because i think we all knew that Lehner should have started the first few games until Anderson was game ready
Also, Benoit should have been benched for the Florida game in favor of Borocop and finally we all knew Turris was a bad trade just like it was stupid to trade for Bishop last year, pretty stupid idea to have goaltending depth in a league that is short on goaltending depth
yeah sschanks is pretty sweet when it comes to that, and im just down the hill from crowfoot so it almost more logical for me to go there, but the owner of donegals is so good to sens fans i enjoy going there much more
hahaha i know right?
weve probably all met giving a go sens go through the saddledome halls when they won last year
I'm sure he was more than ready, but Anderson is still our #1
goalie, and has proven it in both the first 2 games.
Now that Lehner is back in Bingo, we will no doubt see Bishop start on Friday, in Tampa Bay to give Anderson a rest
I do not understand the above comment by Alcatraz, whom I consider a very informed hockey mind!
Ok, yeah... I can see the funny
That was Bobby Butler's best game as a Sen. I was sitting at center ice surrounded by very upset season ticket holders. We will have to organize a Donegal get together for the Calgary clan, maybe hockey day in Canada? (February 9, puck drop at noon.)
Better than ever thx chirp !!
Hey guys, also a Sens fan here in cowtown. Coincedentally DV I was at that game to in the upper area but right on rail on the blue line. What a goal by Butler.
I could be interested in a sens fans get together for a game and some beers!
Quoting Dirtysweet:
I believe it's called "Sarcasm."
Hey guys it is great to hear of so many Sens Fans in Cowtowon!
Screw Laff Nation, Sens Army of RED is taking over the nation...
would love to join you guys next time I am in town!
Go Sens Go
I wouldn't doubt it. There's few of us to go around.
BoroCop will come into the lineup for Benoit when the Sens play the teams that have fighters or goons.. But agreed that Wiercioch & Benoit have done a good job and held their own so far.
Who would have thought that Philly would be 0-3 to start the season. They are without Briere due to injury and it is showing on the scoreboard.. I don't think he goes anywhere. The Rangers could go 0-3 to start the season as well if they lose to Boston again tonight. I don't think anyone could have imagined that.
I'm in some online hockey pools and I picked Lundqvist in everyone of them. Go figure... I guess it is my fault that the Rangers are losing. LOL
If Paul Gaustad nets a 1st round pick.. then if Bishop plays decent in his games with the Sens going to the trade deadline then he should get close to that. I mean.. think about it... Paul Gaustad -- a first round pick? He is not worth that.. no way.
If there is a bidding war for Bishop.. then the price could definitely be in Ottawa's favour.
I think that the sens were fortunate that, with the exception of Methot, there were relatively few major changes to the line-up and that those players that were new to the NHL had been playing together in Bingo.
The fact that Bingo are being taught a similar system to the one favoured by MacLean can't be under estimated with such a short amount of preparation time.
The new blueliners have been told to keep things simple and make the easy play, which will cut down on mistakes. Ottawa is a well coached organisation and that is showing in the early games. A quick start in a shortened season will pay dividend s when quality teams who struggle early (Flyers, Hurricanes, Capitals) find their feet.
I remember, Zibanejad started playing his best hockey after his first concussion last year in the SEL. Despite the team losing many game, he was Djurgarden's most consitent player stat wise, either putting up a goal or an assist, in like 7-8 of the last 10 games of Djurgarden's season.
He was also pretty in the relegation tournament, his team sucked, but his 6 points in 10 games were the most for an under 20 player in the the tournament(way more than forsberg), and his 4 goals in 10 games were the most on Djurgarden aswell.
sorry but condra is super useful on our PK right now - not a trade candidate. we won't get much for him either due to his numbers, but guy has hockey sense and is very valuable to Paul MacLean on PK. Thats also one thing the sens have more of this year: lots of forwards who can play PK: Spezza, Alfie, Milan, Smith, Condra, Greening, Regin, Daugavins and even Neil.
yeah that would be great, lets all hit donegals on hockey day in canada, we shall be known by the jerseys we wear