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Tuesday, 08 January 2013 09:29

Forward Group Begins to Take Shape (UPDATED)

(UPDATE 12:32 AM)- While the NHL has yet to release it's full schedule, reports suggest the Ottawa Senators will open their season on Saturday, January 19th in Winnipeg.  The game against the Jets is expected to begin at 1:30 PM.  Let the countdown begin!

Yesterday we talked about defence and how it will be a focal point for the Senators early in a shortened season.

Today we shift the focus to the forward group which is a little more predictable, assuming everyone can stay healthy in the early going.  The top six forwards are all but decided and a number of veterans will be expected to come into camp and earn the remaining roster spots.

During a discussion on the Team 1200, Paul MacLean indicated that Jakob Silfverberg will start the season on a line with Spezza and Michalek.  That trio could change in a hurry but it’s clear the coach is hoping to find some chemistry with that trio.  All three have been playing during the lockout and should be able to hit the ground running when the season opens up next weekend.

That leaves a second line of Latendresse, Turris and Alfredsson.  Sens fans have yet to see Guillaume Latendresse in action but the hope is he can add some consistent secondary scoring.  He’ll be given every opportunity to do that in the early going skating with Turris and Alfredsson, a duo that had great chemistry at the end of last season.

In the bottom six, there is a little more room for flexibility.  You’ll have Peter Regin, Zack Smith, Colin Greening, Jim O’Brien, Erik Condra, Chris Neil, and Kaspars Daugavins battling for the remaining six spots.  You would think the team carries at least 13 forwards to start.

A total of 15 forwards will get invites with Mike Hoffman and Mark Stone expected to round out the list.   

While the forward group appears mostly settled on paper, injuries should be expected in the first couple weeks of the season.  With an abbreviated camp and no exhibition games, you can guarantee there will be a steady stream of guys coming up from Bingo.

What do you expect from the Sens up front?  Would you change anything in the top six? How do you think the bottom six shakes out?

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+1 #1 NikoTn 2013-01-08 09:43
I am not worried about the forwards.

I am mostly afraid of Anderson shitting the bed early on. We need our best goalie playing from the get-go. Paul MacLean confirmed that this AM on the Team 1200.
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0 #2 illdistrict 2013-01-08 09:44
I wouldn't mind seeing Regin have a shot at the top 6.
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0 #3 spezzerman 2013-01-08 09:56
I love the potential Latendresse brings and if he falters then you have options with Stone, Greening and perhaps a healthy Zib to take that top 6 spot. And with any of those 3 in the bottom 6, we should have good scoring depth throughout the lineup.
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+2 #4 The Silfver Surfer 2013-01-08 09:57
Craig Andersons New Pads! Check IT!


http://ingoalmag.com/news/brians-pad-of-the-week-anderson-enters-beastmode/
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+1 #5 DenisVial 2013-01-08 10:03
Regin and Latendresse have a lot to prove. I am expecting big things from both or this may be their last chance at salvaging their careers.
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0 #6 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-01-08 10:23
Looking forward to puck drop on Jan 19th.
Noticed on Senators Website, that the schedule has been erased
and wondering when schedule for Jan-Feb-Mar -Apr will be up

Are all teams playing within their respective Conferences, as well as their Divisions??

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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0 #7 AlfieforMayor11 2013-01-08 10:25
Chirp, those lines are exactly the way I figured we'd start the season.

Silfverberg-Spezza-MM9
Latendresse-Turris-Alfie
Greening-Smith-Regin
Condra-Jimmy O- Neil
Daugavins

I think O'Brien and Smith will battle it out for 3rd line center, mad Daugavins may find himself on waivers at some point.

I like that third line. Greening brings speed, Smith brings the grit and Regin brings the skill. That line has a little bit of everything.

That top six sure has a ton of question marks though. Is Silfverberg ready to contribute at the NHL level. Is Latendresse in shape and can he stay healthy? Does Alfie still have it? Will Turris break out? Will Michalek stay healthy for a second consecutive season?

If everything falls into place we should squeak into the playoffs like last season. It's going to be a battle though.
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0 #8 Hax 2013-01-08 10:34
What's the prognosis on Zibanejad? I would love to see him on the third line and ready to step up should someone get hurt or falter - but not sure when he's due back.

While our upside looks decent there are plenty of question marks as well. Should be a fun bunch to watch either way though.
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+1 #9 Boivo 2013-01-08 10:37
Personally, I don't know if it is just the fact that we have not seen hockey for awhile now or if its just loving our team. But I think we are going to do great this year. I mean you can ask all those questions about any team in the league, you never know what is going to happen. ie injuries and players not playing up to par. I for some reason dont see Ottawa struggling as much as everyone thinks. The top six is wicked. Can easily score goals with them. As for the D, sure we have some holes but we have three amazing goalies. Never had that before. Here is to the sens doing whatever they do and us loving it.
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0 #10 Hax 2013-01-08 10:38
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Looking forward to puck drop on Jan 19th.
Noticed on Senators Website, that the schedule has been erased
and wondering when schedule for Jan-Feb-Mar -Apr will be up

Are all teams playing within their respective Conferences, as well as their Divisions??

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Schedule should be out in a couple of days. I wouldn't expect any cross-conferenc e play. Probably looking at 4 games with teams in your own division and the rest with other divisions in your conference. But that's a guess of course. Though I'd love to see 6 games still against division rivals leaving only half the games outside your division. But since divisions are close to meaningless in the NHL I doubt they'd do that.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll try to do something a little different and exciting in the shortened season (within reason).
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0 #11 Johne 2013-01-08 10:44
This forward group is going to have to put up numbers to make up for the thinning on defense and I really think they can. Almost everyone stayed in game shape by playing in Bingo or overseas. I cannot wait to see #11 on the ice.
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+1 #12 SensChirp 2013-01-08 10:48
Quoting Hax:
What's the prognosis on Zibanejad? I would love to see him on the third line and ready to step up should someone get hurt or falter - but not sure when he's due back.

While our upside looks decent there are plenty of question marks as well. Should be a fun bunch to watch either way though.

Tim Murray mentioned that he could play this weekend. Still seems unlikely he's in camp. Murray also mentioned that Stefan Noesen could get an invite. Which means one of Hoffman/Stone doesnt. Although I suppose the initial number of 15 forwards could end up being 16.
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0 #13 Hax 2013-01-08 10:51
Quoting Johne:
This forward group is going to have to put up numbers to make up for the thinning on defense and I really think they can. Almost everyone stayed in game shape by playing in Bingo or overseas. I cannot wait to see #11 on the ice.


I have been saying since well before the lockout that a half season would be perfect for Alfie. Extra rest/conditioni ng before the season, no long grind of 82 game schedule, excitement of playoff push (hopefully) comes sooner.

That might be the one bright spot of the lockout for Sens fans: Alfie has so much fun this half season that he signs on for one more!
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0 #14 Hax 2013-01-08 10:52
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Hax:
What's the prognosis on Zibanejad? I would love to see him on the third line and ready to step up should someone get hurt or falter - but not sure when he's due back.

While our upside looks decent there are plenty of question marks as well. Should be a fun bunch to watch either way though.

Tim Murray mentioned that he could play this weekend. Still seems unlikely he's in camp. Murray also mentioned that Stefan Noesen could get an invite. Which means one of Hoffman/Stone doesnt. Although I suppose the initial number of 15 forwards could end up being 16.


Thanks Chirp.

I think Noesen is our true blue-chipper. I think he might end up being better than Zibanejad, Silfverberg, Stone etc. Might take another year or two though.
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0 #15 miguel 2013-01-08 10:53
So the top 6 is pretty much exactly what most of us said it would be.
And it will be very interesting to see how those pan out, but I do not mind going on record that I think those two top lines will be very exciting and should produce.

Real question comes in on the bottom 6, which will get plenty of ice time in a shortened season.

do we go with a energy bang them up line of
Greening Smith Neil

or do we try to get some added scoring with a
Regin Smith/O'Brien Greening/Condra line?

my option will be the B, a third line with engergy that can pot a few goals.

if so then I do believe that the 3rd and 4th lines will be moved around quite a bit depending on success.

In my opinion, a few people who that may impress right from the start other than Latendresse and Silfv will be Condra and Regin,

One thing that will need to be addressed, is who will bring the much appreciated toughness we saw from Carkner and Konopka.

Many finesse players (Karlsson) played much larger, and with more confidence with them in the lineup, and Neil cannot do it all by himself.

That is my take, thoughts?
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+1 #16 miguel 2013-01-08 10:54
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Johne:
This forward group is going to have to put up numbers to make up for the thinning on defense and I really think they can. Almost everyone stayed in game shape by playing in Bingo or overseas. I cannot wait to see #11 on the ice.


I have been saying since well before the lockout that a half season would be perfect for Alfie. Extra rest/conditioning before the season, no long grind of 82 game schedule, excitement of playoff push (hopefully) comes sooner.

That might be the one bright spot of the lockout for Sens fans: Alfie has so much fun this half season that he signs on for one more!


True except for the condensed schedule and playing every other night.

there may be a few rest periods for some of the vets.
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0 #17 WantEggRoll 2013-01-08 10:54
Quoting Hax:
What's the prognosis on Zibanejad? I would love to see him on the third line and ready to step up should someone get hurt or falter - but not sure when he's due back.

While our upside looks decent there are plenty of question marks as well. Should be a fun bunch to watch either way though.


I would not read too much into Zibanejad not getting a camp invite. The guy has been injured constantly over the past two years, so I think they want him to get healthy and get in some ice time in Binghamton. As the year goes on if Zibanejad starts lighting up or at least playing well in the AHL then I am sure you will see him getting called up.
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+1 #18 Hax 2013-01-08 10:56
If the Sens do go out and get a D-man, expect him to be a guy that's willing to drop the gloves in addition to logging "don't hurt you" minutes.
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-1 #19 miguel 2013-01-08 10:58
Quoting Boivo:
Personally, I don't know if it is just the fact that we have not seen hockey for awhile now or if its just loving our team. But I think we are going to do great this year. I mean you can ask all those questions about any team in the league, you never know what is going to happen. ie injuries and players not playing up to par. I for some reason dont see Ottawa struggling as much as everyone thinks. The top six is wicked. Can easily score goals with them. As for the D, sure we have some holes but we have three amazing goalies. Never had that before. Here is to the sens doing whatever they do and us loving it.


way to go out on a limb Boivo, it is easy to predict a tough year and not making the playoffs, and then be surprised, than it is to say we will be in the playoffs and maybe top 6. Like the cohones Boivo.

I say that, we will have the scoring depth up front, we will have stellar goaltending, and if Weircoich can take up the Cowen minutes and Lundin/Gonchar/ Methot plays well, we will be in the playoffs, agreed.
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-1 #20 Hax 2013-01-08 10:58
Quoting miguel:
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Johne:
This forward group is going to have to put up numbers to make up for the thinning on defense and I really think they can. Almost everyone stayed in game shape by playing in Bingo or overseas. I cannot wait to see #11 on the ice.


I have been saying since well before the lockout that a half season would be perfect for Alfie. Extra rest/conditioning before the season, no long grind of 82 game schedule, excitement of playoff push (hopefully) comes sooner.

That might be the one bright spot of the lockout for Sens fans: Alfie has so much fun this half season that he signs on for one more!


True except for the condensed schedule and playing every other night.

there may be a few rest periods for some of the vets.


There's been no indication that the schedule would be condensed. If the season started today, the Sens would have almost exactly 48 games left - so I don't expect the schedule to be condensed very much.
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0 #21 miguel 2013-01-08 11:00
Quoting Hax:
If the Sens do go out and get a D-man, expect him to be a guy that's willing to drop the gloves in addition to logging "don't hurt you" minutes.


yes in dire need... maybe someone like a Carkner :)
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+1 #22 miguel 2013-01-08 11:03
Quoting Hax:
Quoting miguel:
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Johne:
This forward group is going to have to put up numbers to make up for the thinning on defense and I really think they can. Almost everyone stayed in game shape by playing in Bingo or overseas. I cannot wait to see #11 on the ice.


I have been saying since well before the lockout that a half season would be perfect for Alfie. Extra rest/conditioning before the season, no long grind of 82 game schedule, excitement of playoff push (hopefully) comes sooner.

That might be the one bright spot of the lockout for Sens fans: Alfie has so much fun this half season that he signs on for one more!


True except for the condensed schedule and playing every other night.

there may be a few rest periods for some of the vets.


There's been no indication that the schedule would be condensed. If the season started today, the Sens would have almost exactly 48 games left - so I don't expect the schedule to be condensed very much.


it has already been stated the they will be playing on average every second night, so very little down time in between games. That is why I predict a very busy schedule. But should be easier with only Eastern timezone travel
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0 #23 Hax 2013-01-08 11:03
Quoting miguel:
Quoting Hax:
If the Sens do go out and get a D-man, expect him to be a guy that's willing to drop the gloves in addition to logging "don't hurt you" minutes.


yes in dire need... maybe someone like a Carkner :)


Ironically he'd be a decent fit to our needs. Though I'd like someone with more skill. But he's tough and would be fine moving to the press box if one of the rookies stepped up.
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0 #24 miguel 2013-01-08 11:05
Quoting Hax:
Quoting miguel:
Quoting Hax:
If the Sens do go out and get a D-man, expect him to be a guy that's willing to drop the gloves in addition to logging "don't hurt you" minutes.


yes in dire need... maybe someone like a Carkner :)


Ironically he'd be a decent fit to our needs. Though I'd like someone with more skill. But he's tough and would be fine moving to the press box if one of the rookies stepped up.


Completely agreed, except the moronic Islanders paid him too much $$$, otherwise he would still be here.
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0 #25 conor_smythe 2013-01-08 11:14
I'm guessing we're going to be seeing a pretty big team going into the season, with 2-3 healthy scratches per game.

this is the strategy the team used last season, giving lots of young guys a chance and seeing who earns the right to stay

filitov, zibanejad, dacosta, klinkhammer, and butler all started the season with ottawa last year and slowly got weeded out.

with a huge competition for this years bottom 6, and so much unknown potential top end talent, I could see PM keeping everybody he invites to camp and giving everybody their fair shake
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0 #26 Johne 2013-01-08 11:15
As for defence, I think Benoit can play big minutes. I really liked what I saw in his last stint with Ottawa. That really leaves only one spot open for a rookie or a UFA, I know Campoli has fallen on hard times since his departure but I thought he was turning into a very solid defenceman. I think there are solid options out there and I'm 100% confident that we have a competitive team this season thanks to the Murrays.
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0 #27 Hax 2013-01-08 11:17
Quoting conor_smythe:
I'm guessing we're going to be seeing a pretty big team going into the season, with 2-3 healthy scratches per game.

this is the strategy the team used last season, giving lots of young guys a chance and seeing who earns the right to stay

filitov, zibanejad, dacosta, klinkhammer, and butler all started the season with ottawa last year and slowly got weeded out.

with a huge competition for this years bottom 6, and so much unknown potential top end talent, I could see PM keeping everybody he invites to camp and giving everybody their fair shake


Yes with plenty of cap room they could carry 23 players all season and even have some of the 2-way contract guys move in and out.

But I'd expect that Melnyk wants to save some $$$ this season so Murray will likely be asked to keep the NHL roster as small as possible (within reason).
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+2 #28 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 11:24
Anyone think Weircoch may be given an extended look to fill in while Lundin is out? I could also see Borocop be given a shot as well, and then between him and weircoch whoever plays best will stay once Lundin comes back?

Methot-Karlsson
Gonchar-Weircoch
Phillips-Boro

I think we will see Benoit stay down to steady the farm, since we have a good shot down their to and will lose some key guys
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0 #29 Hax 2013-01-08 11:25
Quoting Alcatraz:
Anyone think Weircoch may be given an extended look to fill in while Lundin is out? I could also see Borocop be given a shot as well, and then between him and weircoch whoever plays best will stay once Lundin comes back?

Methot-Karlsson
Gonchar-Weircoch
Phillips-Boro

I think we will see Benoit stay down to steady the farm, since we have a good shot down their to and will lose some key guys


I've always considered Benoit the Corey Locke of the blueline. Not good enough for the NHL but great to help the AHL team. Unless we're stuck, I don't expect Benoit to get any significant time with the big club.
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+1 #30 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 11:28
As for forwards I think its pretty straight forward in top 6 like everyone said

JS-JS-MM
GL-KT-DA

I would like the third line to be:
Greening-Regin-Neil

then the 4th of:
Condra-Smith-O'Brien

If hoffman does well I could see him replacing daug as 13th or even O'brien on certain games.

I don't think you will see Stone make team unless latendresse/reg in suck up in their time on ice

Point of note, Neil and Regin have always shown chemsistry when playing together, and Regin is a great defensive centre, and when he used to line up with Spezza used to actually play the centre role defensively, so i would love to see him become our 3rd line centre
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+1 #31 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-08 11:33
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Craig Andersons New Pads! Check IT!


http://ingoalmag.com/news/brians-pad-of-the-week-anderson-enters-beastmode/


As a Goalie and a Goalie fan, I LOVE it. But it worries me at the same time. Changing equipment, such as pads, or anything for that matter requires some break-in time. With a week of training camp, and no exhibition games, I really hope Andy was doing more in the off season to get the required game feel he needs than just traveling to the NWT and doing charity games.

New pads can be tricky when it comes to controlling rebounds, and just overall movement. He's a pro though and I know he's been through it before, I just hope we don't see issues, or what looks to be rust when he starts. This could be the opening for Lehner that many people have been waiting for.

As for the forwards, Silf may get starting time up front but I expect a hard transition for him between the AHL and NHL, which will see him moved back to the 2nd line to ease in the frustration. I made my prediction a few posts ago and I'll stick with it, based on 10 to 15 games in. I do hope Silf comes out like a rocket though and proves me wrong, same with Latendresse as I hope to see them both in the top 6.

Greening - Spezza - Michalek
Silfverberg - Turris - Alfredsson
Latendresse - Regin - Condra
O'Brien - Smith - Neil
Daugavins
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0 #32 DrSens 2013-01-08 11:39
Timmy Murray is saying that they may invite up to 10 D to camp just to fit all the needs and get a good look at all the guys

D:
Benoit
Wiercioch
Ceci
Borowiecki

Fowards:
Noesen
Stone
Z-Bad (if he can skate)
Silfverberg
Hoffman

If I misspelled any names please post about it, I'm sure I'll read it and care
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0 #33 SensChirp 2013-01-08 11:47
Quoting DrSens:

If I misspelled any names please post about it, I'm sure I'll read it and care

Easy to say when ya nail it!
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+3 #34 The Grammar Police 2013-01-08 11:48
Quoting DrSens:
Timmy Murray is saying that they may invite up to 10 D to camp just to fit all the needs and get a good look at all the guys

D:
Benoit
Wiercioch
Ceci
Borowiecki

Fowards:
Noesen
Stone
Z-Bad (if he can skate)
Silfverberg
Hoffman

If I misspelled any names please post about it, I'm sure I'll read it and care



A+
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0 #35 DrSens 2013-01-08 11:51
Here is the interview I was referring to with T.Murray

http://proxy.autopod.ca/podcasts/chum/179/10629/tim%20murray%20in%20the%20box.mp3

He doesn't really say much about goaltending either than we are AWESOME. Lehner, Anderson, Bishop? Who care, we dominate.
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0 #36 Boivo 2013-01-08 11:54
Panthers really trying to not be the one season wonders, possibly have invited Kovalev, Svatos, and A. Kostitsyn to camp
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0 #37 Sensnation 2013-01-08 12:12
Quoting Alcatraz:
Anyone think Weircoch may be given an extended look to fill in while Lundin is out? I could also see Borocop be given a shot as well, and then between him and weircoch whoever plays best will stay once Lundin comes back?

Methot-Karlsson
Gonchar-Weircoch
Phillips-Boro

I think we will see Benoit stay down to steady the farm, since we have a good shot down their to and will lose some key guys


Agreed. Unless Ceci blows socks off, it should be Boro and Wiercioch.
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-1 #38 SensFanInToronto 2013-01-08 12:13
With Lundin and Cowan out, BM should look at Colin White as a UFA signing. He would add some grit, leadership and a cup ring to the team.
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0 #39 Sensnation 2013-01-08 12:13
Quoting Alcatraz:
As for forwards I think its pretty straight forward in top 6 like everyone said

JS-JS-MM
GL-KT-DA

I would like the third line to be:
Greening-Regin-Neil

then the 4th of:
Condra-Smith-O'Brien

If hoffman does well I could see him replacing daug as 13th or even O'brien on certain games.

I don't think you will see Stone make team unless latendresse/regin suck up in their time on ice

Point of note, Neil and Regin have always shown chemsistry when playing together, and Regin is a great defensive centre, and when he used to line up with Spezza used to actually play the centre role defensively, so i would love to see him become our 3rd line centre


If Regin is your 3rd line C, who's playing against the other team's top line? I think Zack Smith is a much better choice for a defensive 3rd line, especially with so much less gritt this year across the team. Put him with Greening and Neil.
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-1 #40 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 12:21
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Alcatraz:
As for forwards I think its pretty straight forward in top 6 like everyone said

JS-JS-MM
GL-KT-DA

I would like the third line to be:
Greening-Regin-Neil

then the 4th of:
Condra-Smith-O'Brien

If hoffman does well I could see him replacing daug as 13th or even O'brien on certain games.

I don't think you will see Stone make team unless latendresse/regin suck up in their time on ice

Point of note, Neil and Regin have always shown chemsistry when playing together, and Regin is a great defensive centre, and when he used to line up with Spezza used to actually play the centre role defensively, so i would love to see him become our 3rd line centre


If Regin is your 3rd line C, who's playing against the other team's top line? I think Zack Smith is a much better choice for a defensive 3rd line, especially with so much less gritt this year across the team. Put him with Greening and Neil.


Lol Spezza is playing against the other teams top line, because Spezza takes every important zone draw for us. I don't think I ever remembered seeing our third line last year vs the top teams line

Hell even Kyle Turris/Alfie is a better shutdown line than a greening/Smith lol

3rd line Centre does not mean shutdown role. Also I'd rather Regin to shadow a top end centre than smith. Smith is gritty and good on PK, but by know means would I ever confuse him with a Matt Cullen/Mike Fisher type of defensive forward
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0 #41 PistolPete 2013-01-08 12:23
Insider news: Kurtis Foster to be signed by Ottawa.

Wait for it.
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0 #42 Sensnation 2013-01-08 12:25
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Alcatraz:
As for forwards I think its pretty straight forward in top 6 like everyone said

JS-JS-MM
GL-KT-DA

I would like the third line to be:
Greening-Regin-Neil

then the 4th of:
Condra-Smith-O'Brien

If hoffman does well I could see him replacing daug as 13th or even O'brien on certain games.

I don't think you will see Stone make team unless latendresse/regin suck up in their time on ice

Point of note, Neil and Regin have always shown chemsistry when playing together, and Regin is a great defensive centre, and when he used to line up with Spezza used to actually play the centre role defensively, so i would love to see him become our 3rd line centre


If Regin is your 3rd line C, who's playing against the other team's top line? I think Zack Smith is a much better choice for a defensive 3rd line, especially with so much less gritt this year across the team. Put him with Greening and Neil.


Lol Spezza is playing against the other teams top line, because Spezza takes every important zone draw for us. I don't think I ever remembered seeing our third line last year vs the top teams line

Hell even Kyle Turris/Alfie is a better shutdown line than a greening/Smith lol

3rd line Centre does not mean shutdown role. Also I'd rather Regin to shadow a top end centre than smith. Smith is gritty and good on PK, but by know means would I ever confuse him with a Matt Cullen/Mike Fisher type of defensive forward


I think u missed a lot of games then. Yes Spezza takes important faceoffs, but the 3rd line was used as a shutdown line vs the other teams' top 6 quite a bit.
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0 #43 SensChirp 2013-01-08 12:28
Quoting PistolPete:
Insider news: Kurtis Foster to be signed by Ottawa.

Wait for it.

Have also seen his name linked to the Flyers.
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-1 #44 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 12:29
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Alcatraz:


Lol Spezza is playing against the other teams top line, because Spezza takes every important zone draw for us. I don't think I ever remembered seeing our third line last year vs the top teams line

Hell even Kyle Turris/Alfie is a better shutdown line than a greening/Smith lol

3rd line Centre does not mean shutdown role. Also I'd rather Regin to shadow a top end centre than smith. Smith is gritty and good on PK, but by know means would I ever confuse him with a Matt Cullen/Mike Fisher type of defensive forward


I think u missed a lot of games then. Yes Spezza takes important faceoffs, but the 3rd line was used as a shutdown line vs the other teams' top 6 quite a bit.


Man its my first day back and I'm already having to resort to stats lol

Quality of competition rankings at 5 on 5:
Daugauvins
michalek
spezza
greening
turris
alfredsson
condra
smith
foligno
butler
neil
konopka

Thats how our team ranked, with Smith actually being a negative quality of comp

So no our 3rd line Centre did not play top 6 regularly. Just like you never saw Smith out when Brad Richards was out during the playoffs
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0 #45 Sensnation 2013-01-08 12:35
Quoting Alcatraz:

Man its my first day back and I'm already having to resort to stats lol

Quality of competition rankings at 5 on 5:
Daugauvins
michalek
spezza
greening
turris
alfredsson
condra
smith
foligno
butler
neil
konopka

Thats how our team ranked, with Smith actually being a negative quality of comp

So no our 3rd line Centre did not play top 6 regularly. Just like you never saw Smith out when Brad Richards was out during the playoffs



Lol, Daugavins at the top. Ya ok man. I watched plenty of games with Smith vs the other teams offensive lines, so not sure what you're missing here.
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-1 #46 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 12:37
Anyone gunna jump in here and agree that Smith never plays against the top lines. Its virtually impossible for that to be a true statement simply by looking at his time on ice stat

And yes Daugauvins is only up there because he just made the GP cut off, its obviousn that he is somewhat of an outlier. Regardless Spezza and Turris played the top lines regularily
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-1 #47 Sensnation 2013-01-08 12:41
Quoting Alcatraz:
Anyone gunna jump in here and agree that Smith never plays against the top lines. Its virtually impossible for that to be a true statement simply by looking at his time on ice stat

And yes Daugauvins is only up there because he just made the GP cut off, its obviousn that he is somewhat of an outlier. Regardless Spezza and Turris played the top lines regularily


Simply put if you NEVER saw Smith play against the other teams top lines, there's not much more to discuss here.
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+1 #48 meadowdog  2013-01-08 12:41
Quoting PistolPete:
Insider news: Kurtis Foster to be signed by Ottawa.

Wait for it.


HMMMM - interesting prediction.

You'll get a seat at the SensChirp Head Table if it happens.
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0 #49 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 12:43
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Anyone gunna jump in here and agree that Smith never plays against the top lines. Its virtually impossible for that to be a true statement simply by looking at his time on ice stat

And yes Daugauvins is only up there because he just made the GP cut off, its obviousn that he is somewhat of an outlier. Regardless Spezza and Turris played the top lines regularily


Simply put if you NEVER saw Smith play against the other teams top lines, there's not much more to discuss here.


I'm certain he HAS in the past on a shift or two, but to say Smith needs to be our 3rd line centre over regin because we need a shutdown 3rd line centre role to play against top lines is a clear misunderstandin g of how Maclean likes to use his forwards and specifically his centres. He will role spezza/turris vs their top lines all day long
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-4 #50 Sensnation 2013-01-08 12:45
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Anyone gunna jump in here and agree that Smith never plays against the top lines. Its virtually impossible for that to be a true statement simply by looking at his time on ice stat

And yes Daugauvins is only up there because he just made the GP cut off, its obviousn that he is somewhat of an outlier. Regardless Spezza and Turris played the top lines regularily


Simply put if you NEVER saw Smith play against the other teams top lines, there's not much more to discuss here.


I'm certain he HAS in the past on a shift or two, but to say Smith needs to be our 3rd line centre over regin because we need a shutdown 3rd line centre role to play against top lines is a clear misunderstandin g of how Maclean likes to use his forwards and specifically his centres. He will role spezza/turris vs their top lines all day long


Now I'm misunderstandin g hockey cause I think Smith (who's been our 3rd line C for years now) is a better 3rd line C? man you're just being a dick for no reason here. Agree to disagree and move on.
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0 #51 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 12:48
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Anyone gunna jump in here and agree that Smith never plays against the top lines. Its virtually impossible for that to be a true statement simply by looking at his time on ice stat

And yes Daugauvins is only up there because he just made the GP cut off, its obviousn that he is somewhat of an outlier. Regardless Spezza and Turris played the top lines regularily


Simply put if you NEVER saw Smith play against the other teams top lines, there's not much more to discuss here.


I'm certain he HAS in the past on a shift or two, but to say Smith needs to be our 3rd line centre over regin because we need a shutdown 3rd line centre role to play against top lines is a clear misunderstanding of how Maclean likes to use his forwards and specifically his centres. He will role spezza/turris vs their top lines all day long


Now I'm misunderstanding hockey cause I think Smith (who's been our 3rd line C for years now) is a better 3rd line C? man you're just being a dick for no reason here. Agree to disagree and move on.


I agree he has been our 3rd line centre since we traded fisher 1.5 years ago

But the only point I'm making is that 3rd line does not equal shut down role. So yes Smith has been our 3rd line centre, but no, our 3rd line centre isn't our defensive go to shutdown guy

which is why I like Regin in that role if healthy, we will need to roll 4 lines this year and a regin-smith combo at 3/4 will be great for depth
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+6 #52 Hax 2013-01-08 13:00
I see the post-wars are in mid-season form already.

Relax boys. Smith is a better shut down guy than Regin (not by a whole lot though) but it's also true that we don't really play our 3rd line as a "shut down" line very much. P-Mac typically goes strength against strength.

So count me as a guy who's not overly worried which guy ends up as the #3C since it's not like they'll see critical minutes like some teams' third lines do.
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0 #53 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 13:05
Quoting Hax:
I see the post-wars are in mid-season form already.

Relax boys. Smith is a better shut down guy than Regin (not by a whole lot though) but it's also true that we don't really play our 3rd line as a "shut down" line very much. P-Mac typically goes strength against strength.

So count me as a guy who's not overly worried which guy ends up as the #3C since it's not like they'll see critical minutes like some teams' third lines do.


Thanks for the defense on what I was only trying to say. I agree 3LC is not overly important but I personally think a line fo greening-regin- neil would be a great thrid line secondary scoring type line while a condra-smith-o' brien 4th line would be able to play any situation with loads of PK time
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-1 #54 Sensnation 2013-01-08 13:08
Quoting Hax:
I see the post-wars are in mid-season form already.

Relax boys. Smith is a better shut down guy than Regin (not by a whole lot though) but it's also true that we don't really play our 3rd line as a "shut down" line very much. P-Mac typically goes strength against strength.

So count me as a guy who's not overly worried which guy ends up as the #3C since it's not like they'll see critical minutes like some teams' third lines do.


If Regin's the 3rd line C, yes I agree we will never see our 3rd line against the other team's top 6 in a defensive role. Smith gives you that choice, and he is used there which is all I've been saying.

Obviously our top 6 plays vs top 6 as well, it's not like other coaches are going to give us their 4th line against our scoring lines just to be nice to us. Though Alcatraz would have you believe this is what I'm saying by stating our 3rd plays against top lines.
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-1 #55 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 13:13
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Hax:
I see the post-wars are in mid-season form already.

Relax boys. Smith is a better shut down guy than Regin (not by a whole lot though) but it's also true that we don't really play our 3rd line as a "shut down" line very much. P-Mac typically goes strength against strength.

So count me as a guy who's not overly worried which guy ends up as the #3C since it's not like they'll see critical minutes like some teams' third lines do.


If Regin's the 3rd line C, yes I agree we will never see our 3rd line against the other team's top 6. Smith gives you that choice, and he is used there which is all I've been saying.

Obviously our top 6 plays vs top 6 as well, it's not like other coaches are going to give us their 4th line against our scoring lines just to be nice to us. Though Alcatraz would have you believe this is what I'm saying by stating our 3rd plays against top lines.


"I think u missed a lot of games then. Yes Spezza takes important faceoffs, but the 3rd line was used as a shutdown line vs the other teams' top 6 quite a bit."

"If Regin is your 3rd line C, who's playing against the other team's top line? I think Zack Smith is a much better choice for a defensive 3rd line, especially with so much less gritt this year across the team. Put him with Greening and Neil."

I'm confused you seem to be saying the opposite of what you said before?

(And yes I'm just trying to be a dick here) lol

All in all it can't quite be a pre-season without a 2LC or 3LC debate in Ottawa!

Also any word on if da costa is getting an invite? I'm assuming no
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-1 #56 Sensnation 2013-01-08 13:16
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Sensnation:
Quoting Hax:
I see the post-wars are in mid-season form already.

Relax boys. Smith is a better shut down guy than Regin (not by a whole lot though) but it's also true that we don't really play our 3rd line as a "shut down" line very much. P-Mac typically goes strength against strength.

So count me as a guy who's not overly worried which guy ends up as the #3C since it's not like they'll see critical minutes like some teams' third lines do.


If Regin's the 3rd line C, yes I agree we will never see our 3rd line against the other team's top 6. Smith gives you that choice, and he is used there which is all I've been saying.

Obviously our top 6 plays vs top 6 as well, it's not like other coaches are going to give us their 4th line against our scoring lines just to be nice to us. Though Alcatraz would have you believe this is what I'm saying by stating our 3rd plays against top lines.


"I think u missed a lot of games then. Yes Spezza takes important faceoffs, but the 3rd line was used as a shutdown line vs the other teams' top 6 quite a bit."

"If Regin is your 3rd line C, who's playing against the other team's top line? I think Zack Smith is a much better choice for a defensive 3rd line, especially with so much less gritt this year across the team. Put him with Greening and Neil."

I'm confused you seem to be saying the opposite of what you said before?

(And yes I'm just trying to be a dick here) lol

All in all it can't quite be a pre-season without a 2LC or 3LC debate in Ottawa!

Also any word on if da costa is getting an invite? I'm assuming no


Ya you're a dick. Those are not contradictory statements.
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-2 #57 Canucnik 2013-01-08 13:21
Best third line even when their # was called 4th

Greening; Zack; Condra

Best forth line even when their # was called 3rd

Daugavins; Jimmy; Neiler

The dog didn't play half a year on a broken foot to let #13 beat him out. Petr is the odd man out.
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0 #58 bsensblaster 2013-01-08 13:28
For many of you who are speculating Gryba has been the most consistant dman in Bingo. He would fill Cowens shoes much better than Wiercioch who is attrocious defensively on a good day. If you look at stats Wiercioch looks good bu on the ice he is a bastion of mistakes and weakness. Time will tell but I've seen 20+ bsens games.
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0 #59 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 13:29
Quoting bsensblaster:
For many of you who are speculating Gryba has been the most consistant dman in Bingo. He would fill Cowens shoes much better than Wiercioch who is attrocious defensively on a good day. If you look at stats Wiercioch looks good bu on the ice he is a bastion of mistakes and weakness. Time will tell but I've seen 20+ bsens games.


Good to know

in terms of a solid top 6 with PP strengths and PK strengths, with us already having methot and phillips, would bringing both gryba and boro make us thin in terms of puck movers/pp2 dmen?

That was my only concern and why I included PW
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+1 #60 Hax 2013-01-08 13:31
I do love the idea of the energy a Greening-Smith- Neil line could bring. Imagine the havoc they could create on a forecheck (add to dictionary).

Whether that's official the 3rd or 4th line I don't care - would just love to see those three together.
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-1 #61 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 13:36
Quoting Hax:
I do love the idea of the energy a Greening-Smith-Neil line could bring. Imagine the havoc they could create on a forecheck (add to dictionary).

Whether that's official the 3rd or 4th line I don't care - would just love to see those three together.


Very true, I personally just don't think Smith is an everyday 3rd liner, but I want him to convince me otherwise, and fully willing to admit i'm wrong in this case

I just think his second half is more of a type of player he is rather than his 1st half last year. Maybe its concussion problems maybe its legs catching up to him who knows, but I think Greening and Neil could use someone with a little more offensive abilities while still maintaining the grinding role
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-1 #62 the Gramamr Police 2013-01-08 13:38
Quoting Canucnik:
Best third line even when their # was called 4th

Greening; Zack; Condra

Best forth line even when their # was called 3rd

Daugavins; Jimmy; Neiler

The dog didn't play half a year on a broken foot to let #13 beat him out. Petr is the odd man out.


F
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0 #63 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-08 13:44
Quoting PistolPete:
Insider news: Kurtis Foster to be signed by Ottawa.

Wait for it.


Never saw any reports yet. Out of all the names that were thrown out, I had him 2nd on my list only because he's a home town boy. He's had some hardships the last few seasons, moved around a lot, last I heard he suffered a collarbone fracture in Nov. But I do think if they did sign him he could fill the role in a 48 game season easily if healthy and ready to go.
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0 #64 the Grammar Police 2013-01-08 13:44
Quoting the Gramamr Police:
Quoting Canucnik:
Best third line even when their # was called 4th

Greening; Zack; Condra

Best forth line even when their # was called 3rd

Daugavins; Jimmy; Neiler

The dog didn't play half a year on a broken foot to let #13 beat him out. Petr is the odd man out.


F


an F for me as well
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0 #65 boom 2013-01-08 13:44
Quoting bsensblaster:
For many of you who are speculating Gryba has been the most consistant dman in Bingo. He would fill Cowens shoes much better than Wiercioch who is attrocious defensively on a good day. If you look at stats Wiercioch looks good bu on the ice he is a bastion of mistakes and weakness. Time will tell but I've seen 20+ bsens games.

He's (Gryba) also tough too eh? I think they could use some toughness after losing Carkner and Konopka..
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0 #66 Hax 2013-01-08 14:07
Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes

Sounds like the NHL's major re-launch press conference will take place on Wednesday at 4pm ET in New York.
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+1 #67 Canucnik 2013-01-08 14:09
Hey GP if ya wanna be an editor ya havta supply a correction! Why don't "YOU" say something informative for a change!
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+2 #68 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-08 14:11
It's a hard to compare Smith and Regin as who's a better C for the 3rd line. Both have skills to play the C/LW position and both provide a little different skill-set. If you are trying to base it on experience or production, it's a tough call.

Regin's career has spanned 4 years with the Sens, he's played 151 games, mainly in the 2nd and 3rd seasons, where the 1st saw him lace up only 11 times and last year 10 times, most games lost due to injury. Regin has 52 points, 19 goals, a +9 and 36 PIMs.

Smith, 2 years younger than Regin, has also seen action part of 4 years with the Sens. He's played a total of 152 NHL games, his first two years playing 16 games combined due to odd call up roles. So the majority of his experience falls from the last two seasons where he's been a regular with the club. He's accumulated 38 points, 20 goals, a -6 with 232 PIMs. During his time he's proven to be more durable.

So on pure point production to games played, Regin is the runaway winner. He also appears to be the better setup guy and better defensive player due to his +9 rating, but his higher point production can inflate those numbers somewhat as well as the fact most of those numbers came in the 09-10 season where he had a team leading +10.

So the push for a point producing 3rd line C really does go to Regin, even though he's been injured so often. But if you are looking for a guy who plays bigger than his 6'2 frame, hits harder and drives the net and isn't scared to drop the gloves, Smith is your man.

I honestly don't think the Sens will go wrong using either of these guys. But I do love the idea of the Greening, Smith, Neil line, regardless of it being a 3rd or 4th.
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0 #69 Mitch 2013-01-08 14:15
Hey Chirp,

Any clue if Sunday is an Open to public practice?
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0 #70 Canucnik 2013-01-08 14:19
Petr Regin's only chance is if Silfverberg is not ready. Because both Jason and 9mm like playing with the man but he will break himself trying to play first line...(and everyone knows it)
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-1 #71 Trilby LaRue 2013-01-08 14:20
Quoting Canucnik:
Hey GP if ya wanna be an editor ya havta supply a correction! Why don't "YOU" say something informative for a change!


LMAO !

You've made five mistakes in attempting to form 2 correct sentences.

You deserve the ridicule that you get.
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0 #72 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-08 14:21
Mike Commodore is getting a tryout with the Habs. Kovalev is set to attend training camp with the Panthers. All these ex Sens in our conference, what else are we going to see?
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+1 #73 miguel 2013-01-08 14:24
Quoting bsensblaster:
For many of you who are speculating Gryba has been the most consistant dman in Bingo. He would fill Cowens shoes much better than Wiercioch who is attrocious defensively on a good day. If you look at stats Wiercioch looks good bu on the ice he is a bastion of mistakes and weakness. Time will tell but I've seen 20+ bsens games.


Really suprised to hear that, I cannot argue as I have not seena any B Sens games, but I would like to point out that for a bad defensive player Wierciouch has one of the better +/- of all the defencemen, does he not?
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-4 #74 supersens 2013-01-08 14:25
Latendresse-Spezza-Michalek
Silfverberg-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Neil
Smith-OBrien-Condra

...meet Stanley
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-2 #75 Andrews Theory 2013-01-08 14:27
BM has stated numerous times in the past that Z Smith is his 3rd Ctr.

Third line needs to bang and that's what he brings...as for offensive upside, he has plenty in my opinion but I think he was a victim of fatigue during the second half of last year as was likely he case for Greening they simply played too much hockey between bingo and the big club and they were burnt out.

Does Regin have more skill than ZS, of course he does but he doesn't offer the complete package that ZS does, no one is nervous going into the corner with him or taking liberties with him and that's the type of guy you need centering your third line to win.

Personally, I'd love to see a line of Greening, ZS and Latendresse I think they would dominate every shift they were on the ice and balance out the scoring.

As for Kurtis Foster- that''s been my pick since the lockout ended - if they need a one year fix without sacrificing the future he's the best guy available...
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-2 #76 Hax 2013-01-08 14:29
Bottom Six Solved:

Smith/Regin - Regin/Smith - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra

Smith takes defensive zone draws, Regin the rest.
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0 #77 TheBoss 2013-01-08 14:32
Quoting NikoTn:
I am not worried about the forwards.

I am mostly afraid of Anderson shitting the bed early on. We need our best goalie playing from the get-go. Paul MacLean confirmed that this AM on the Team 1200.


See, with the goalies, we at least are in the enviable position of having Bishop and Lehner... Now what really worries me, is the thought of putting Phillips and Gonchar back together, and having rookies down on 5/6/7. Gonchar did great with Cowen... Too bad he's out... So, I'm hoping that Lundin comes back quickly.

I definitely share the opinion of most when they say that Phillips is no longer a top 4 D. He's best suited at 5th or 6th. But then again, I might take him over a rookie... Not sure I like the idea of the backend being filled by 2 or 3 rookies...
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0 #78 miguel 2013-01-08 14:32
Quoting Hax:
Bottom Six Solved:

Smith/Regin - Regin/Smith - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra

Smith takes defensive zone draws, Regin the rest.


I love it except I would swap Condra and Neil.
and no label of 3rd of 4th lines,
one line can play finesse and scort and he other can bang it up and score!
All four lines will play plenty in a shortened season, if they are not productive enough, in comes the Daug, or someone from the A
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0 #79 boom 2013-01-08 14:38
Quoting Hax:
Bottom Six Solved:

Smith/Regin - Regin/Smith - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra

Smith takes defensive zone draws, Regin the rest.

I like it, but I remain a non-fan of Condra. I know I'm in the minority, but I'd rather have someone more physical playing wing on the 4th line.
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+1 #80 miguel 2013-01-08 14:42
Quoting boom:
Quoting Hax:
Bottom Six Solved:

Smith/Regin - Regin/Smith - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra

Smith takes defensive zone draws, Regin the rest.

I like it, but I remain a non-fan of Condra. I know I'm in the minority, but I'd rather have someone more physical playing wing on the 4th line.


no doubt that Condra left us wanting much more last year, (way too many missed opportunities) but as on coach always said, opportunities will eventually lead to goals. Its when you never get any opportunities that you need to worry.
And that was his first full season in the NHL.
I believe that his coming out party can be this year, ala Chris Kelly. But it could go either way really.
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0 #81 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 14:43
Quoting boom:
Quoting Hax:
Bottom Six Solved:

Smith/Regin - Regin/Smith - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra

Smith takes defensive zone draws, Regin the rest.

I like it, but I remain a non-fan of Condra. I know I'm in the minority, but I'd rather have someone more physical playing wing on the 4th line.


I agree for a PK guy he isn't all that great at PK, would much prefer we role with someone else there insteak of Condra, but i Wouldn't have hoffman or stone on 4th line, so I guess we are stuck with him

ALso, what is happening with Jesse Winchester, is he back or still a UFA, is he cleared to play again? cause if thats the case it take winnie over condra in a heartbeat
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-3 #82 St Nick 2013-01-08 14:49
It's too bad that Ottawa cannot buy out Condra & Daugavins & add Stone & DD to the lineup. They would bring more size & toughness to the lineup & couldn't be any worse.

Silfverberg - Spezza - Michalek
Latendresse - Turris - Alfredsson
Greening - Regin - Stone
Z. Smith - JOB - Neil/DD

Once Regin gets hurt JOB can move up a line & Smith can play 4th line centre & DD replaces Smith on LW.
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+2 #83 boom 2013-01-08 14:49
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting boom:
Quoting Hax:
Bottom Six Solved:

Smith/Regin - Regin/Smith - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra

Smith takes defensive zone draws, Regin the rest.

I like it, but I remain a non-fan of Condra. I know I'm in the minority, but I'd rather have someone more physical playing wing on the 4th line.


I agree for a PK guy he isn't all that great at PK, would much prefer we role with someone else there insteak of Condra, but i Wouldn't have hoffman or stone on 4th line, so I guess we are stuck with him

ALso, what is happening with Jesse Winchester, is he back or still a UFA, is he cleared to play again? cause if thats the case it take winnie over condra in a heartbeat

Stone is playing with Grant and Dziurzynski in a shut-down line/3rd line role in Binghamton so maybe they were grooming him for a 3rd or 4th line role with the Sens this year. I'd love to see him get a chance to show that he can play an all around game, at least for a few games.
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-1 #84 Sensnation 2013-01-08 14:50
Quoting miguel:
Quoting boom:
Quoting Hax:
Bottom Six Solved:

Smith/Regin - Regin/Smith - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra

Smith takes defensive zone draws, Regin the rest.

I like it, but I remain a non-fan of Condra. I know I'm in the minority, but I'd rather have someone more physical playing wing on the 4th line.


no doubt that Condra left us wanting much more last year, (way too many missed opportunities) but as on coach always said, opportunities will eventually lead to goals. Its when you never get any opportunities that you need to worry.
And that was his first full season in the NHL.
I believe that his coming out party can be this year, ala Chris Kelly. But it could go either way really.


Agreed Miguel. Hopefully his time overseas has reminded him how to score into an empty net :)
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0 #85 Hax 2013-01-08 14:51
Quoting St Nick:
It's too bad that Ottawa cannot buy out Condra & Daugavins & add Stone & DD to the lineup. They would bring more size & toughness to the lineup & couldn't be any worse.

Silfverberg - Spezza - Michalek
Latendresse - Turris - Alfredsson
Greening - Regin - Stone
Z. Smith - JOB - Neil/DD

Once Regin gets hurt JOB can move up a line & Smith can play 4th line centre & DD replaces Smith on LW.



DD = Dziurzynski?
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-1 #86 Rimshot Rondelet 2013-01-08 15:15
Quoting Canucnik:
Hey GP if ya wanna be an editor ya havta supply a correction! Why don't "YOU" say something informative for a change!


... or you could learn how to spell and construct valid sentences so that we don't have to try to decode your gibberish.
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0 #87 nicholas19 2013-01-08 15:18
ahh I think Victor Hedman would look good in a sens jersey, what do you think we would need to give up for him in the event that tampas new goalie doesnt pan out and they could use bishop?
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-1 #88 Hax 2013-01-08 15:21
Quoting nicholas19:
ahh I think Victor Hedman would look good in a sens jersey, what do you think we would need to give up for him in the event that tampas new goalie doesnt pan out and they could use bishop?


He's a second overall pick. Unless you want to start your package with Turris or Cowen ++ don't waste your time.

Would love to get the guy but the price would be too high. Especially if other teams got wind he could be had.
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-1 #89 Rimshot Rondelet 2013-01-08 15:24
Quoting nicholas19:
ahh I think Victor Hedman would look good in a sens jersey, what do you think we would need to give up for him in the event that tampas new goalie doesnt pan out and they could use bishop?


Hedman you say ? King Karlsson's old partner ?
An intriging idea.

It would cost a lot more than a second-level goalie if possible.
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-1 #90 Sensnation 2013-01-08 15:40
Quoting nicholas19:
ahh I think Victor Hedman would look good in a sens jersey, what do you think we would need to give up for him in the event that tampas new goalie doesnt pan out and they could use bishop?


Tampa just got Lindback and they also have Andrey Vasilevskiy and Dustin Tokarski in their prospect pool. I'd imagine if they wanted a goalie from us it would be Anderson to get them to 2-3 yrs down the road. Not sure they'd give up Hedman in either case though, but he would definitely be a nice player to have.
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+2 #91 moneymike 2013-01-08 15:42
Hjalmarsson is the way to go.

Smith and possibly Bishop? Chicago needs a centreman and lacks goaltending.

Hjalmarsson is a top four defenceman. As others have suggested, he would fit long-term.
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0 #92 Alcatraz 2013-01-08 15:46
Each team plays: 4 games vs. two Divisional opponents (8); 5 games vs. two divisional opponents (10); 3 games vs 10 Conference rivals (30).

From Bobby mac on twitter

So I would assume:

Ottawa: tor(5) buf(5) mtl(4) bos(4)
Toronto: ott(5) mtl(5) buf(4) bos(4)
Montreal: tor(5) bos(5) ott(4) buf(4)
Buffalo: bos(5) ott(5) mtl(4) tor(4)
Boston: buf(5) mtl(5) tor(4) ott(4)
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0 #93 IcySurfas 2013-01-08 15:47
Hello Chirpers..

First off...happy new year, and welcome back to hockey.

I know this blog is focusing on Sens offensive line ups...but I just thought (what the hell) I would throw something in. I just got back from a few beers a la happy hour in my end of town (west), and I got talking to a dude that claimed to be on the "I know shit". yeah...exactly. ..enough of those around. But none the less, he said he had a buddy that worked in the sens org that he chatted to yesterday that told him the following...|

As far fetched as it may look, he indicated that the Sens are definately exploring D-man options outside the org, but that as part of a training camp, they will specifically look at Borocop and Ceci (? - yeah...thats what I said), apparently because these 2 showed such promising chemistry at the rookie camp last summer...they will atleast explore specifically those 2 on a D-pairing to start the season.

Meh....who knows...the guy seemed legit, but so do many after a few beers. All I can say in the mix is...we got OPTIONS....for sure. Very exciting to see what rounds out in our line-up come Jan 19 (?)

As many have already said... GSG!!

Cheers all...and lets the games begin!

(pfffttt sshh) yup...thats the sound of another beer being opened. What can I say...on holidays till next monday!
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0 #94 Hax 2013-01-08 15:47
So Ceci is being invited to camp? - we knew that.
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-3 #95 conor_smythe 2013-01-08 15:49
Defensemen to trade for

cheap and young: Kevin Shattenkirk, Travis Hamonic

older more expensive: Alex Goligoski, Jason Garrison

oldest/most expensive but best option: ZChara
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0 #96 Boivo 2013-01-08 15:51
Quoting Hax:
So Ceci is being invited to camp? - we knew that.

Eaaaaaaaaasy Hax....easy
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0 #97 Canucnik 2013-01-08 16:08
Hey Trilby, I usta have a winger named LaRue, a net hanger, he usta turn his back to me all the time, once a season I'd have to hit him in the arse just to get him out of the way!
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-1 #98 DrSens 2013-01-08 16:08
Quoting conor_smythe:
Defensemen to trade for

cheap and young: Kevin Shattenkirk, Travis Hamonic

older more expensive: Alex Goligoski, Jason Garrison

oldest/most expensive but best option: ZChara


Man, they traded NEAL for GOLI... no way
They just got J Garrison

CHARA is the captain

Shattenkirk is good, what do they need? not goalies... maybe fowards. But it would take some picks. and picks are too valuable this draft
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-2 #99 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 16:16
Quoting moneymike:
Hjalmarsson is the way to go.

Smith and possibly Bishop? Chicago needs a centreman and lacks goaltending.

Hjalmarsson is a top four defenceman. As others have suggested, he would fit long-term.


No Bishop that is a overpayment!

Save Bishop for another trade later in the season or
during the summer!
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0 #100 nicholas19 2013-01-08 16:17
Quoting Hax:
Quoting nicholas19:
ahh I think Victor Hedman would look good in a sens jersey, what do you think we would need to give up for him in the event that tampas new goalie doesnt pan out and they could use bishop?


He's a second overall pick. Unless you want to start your package with Turris or Cowen ++ don't waste your time.

Would love to get the guy but the price would be too high. Especially if other teams got wind he could be had.


a man could dream =/
next time one of you run into Karlsson, tell him to give his buddy a call and pull a heatley in tampa to get here
=D
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-2 #101 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 16:20
Quoting nicholas19:
ahh I think Victor Hedman would look good in a sens jersey, what do you think we would need to give up for him in the event that tampas new goalie doesnt pan out and they could use bishop?


I would like that also!
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-2 #102 Canucnik 2013-01-08 16:21
Peter Regan played 1st line wing, 2nd line centre, 4th line wing/center but never 3rd line center because he simply could not match up with the other guys 1st line.
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0 #103 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-08 16:22
I had totally forgot Hedman played with EK, not so long ago. You can't deny having them as a top pairing would be pretty nice.

Is it just me though, Hedman hasn't lived up to his draft status? I know he's a stay at home D, he's had three 20+ point seasons. But his +/- is nothing to be desired, and you just don't hear much about him. I guess that's a good thing for a D like that.

There is no doubt he's a top 2 guy in the NHL, especially for what he does. But at what point would Tampa consider moving him?

He's just starting his new 5 year, 20 Mil contract, with a 4 Mil a year cap hit, which Ottawa could easily handle. It isn't as horrible looking as some of the contracts FAs are requesting. Have to praise SY for getting him to sign something the team can handle.

Maybe he's someone Ottawa would consider as a future Chris Phillips replacement, outside of Cowen of course. As for trades, we could use Smith (since his name comes up so often in trades for Hjalmarsson) or Regin, Tampa needs help down the middle. And if needed one of our future wingers, cause seriously take a look at Tampa's bottom 6, ouch. And we are always saying we cannot get our entire prospect pool into a Sens Jersey, trades will eventually need to happen.
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-5 #104 WolfInSheepsClothes 2013-01-08 16:25
What about possibly bringing Matt Gilroy back? He wasn't TERRIBLE in his time here...

I know he's signed to the AHL's Whale (Rangers minor league team). Does that mean he is unavailable to sign with other NHL teams?

Thoughts?
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0 #105 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 16:30
Will Andrej Sustr sign with a NHL team
this spring?


I hope the Senators will land Sustr this summer!


Murray should sign Sustr and this spring and then
draft Darnell Nurse this summer at the draft!


Just a quick question will Latendresse be resigned
this summer after the season? I know it is still too
early to predict.
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0 #106 boom 2013-01-08 16:30
Quoting AParadiseLost:
What about possibly bringing Matt Gilroy back? He wasn't TERRIBLE in his time here...

I know he's signed to the AHL's Whale (Rangers minor league team). Does that mean he is unavailable to sign with other NHL teams?

Thoughts?

He may not have been TERRIBLE but he was terrible...
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+2 #107 WolfInSheepsClothes 2013-01-08 16:37
Quoting boom:
Quoting AParadiseLost:
What about possibly bringing Matt Gilroy back? He wasn't TERRIBLE in his time here...

I know he's signed to the AHL's Whale (Rangers minor league team). Does that mean he is unavailable to sign with other NHL teams?

Thoughts?

He may not have been TERRIBLE but he was terrible...


Hardy har har...

I'd love to see Ceci make it out of camp (even if only for a few games)! In the couple of 67's games I saw this year he was stellar. One hell of a shot!
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-1 #108 Canucnik 2013-01-08 16:43
To Monsieur LaRue:

Do not start a paragraph with I

Do not start a sentence with because

Do not worry about a critic, who is more concerned with style over content when you are talkin' hockey.

Hax: Ya know who I'd like to see get a chance is #50 imagine if he can score @ the NHL Level.
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+1 #109 DenisVial 2013-01-08 16:53
Quoting spezzafan19:
Will Andrej Sustr sign with a NHL team
this spring?


I hope the Senators will land Sustr this summer!


Murray should sign Sustr and this spring and then
draft Darnell Nurse this summer at the draft!


Just a quick question will Latendresse be resigned
this summer after the season? I know it is still too
early to predict.


The answer to all your questions is Andrew Ladd and Eric Fehr.
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0 #110 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-08 17:00
Craig Button ranked the top prospects already affiliated with an NHL team and has Silfverberg at 16th, Zibanejad at 23rd.

There are a few names I have no problem seeing ahead of Silf and many at this point which are easily ahead of Zib. But what I don't like are the guys who have yet to play in the AHL and show promise. Subban for instance, who's just ahead of Silfverberg, at 15th. Yes he will probably be a starter in the NHL someday, but he has not yet impressed me and this isn't because Canada didn't finish with a medal at the WJC.

Kuznetsov, who button has 2nd overall. You can't deny he's done great in the KHL, but he's proven no more than Silf did in the SEL and look what Silf has done in the A already this year.

I may take some heat on this one, but Tarasenko. Yes, he's a top end prospect, but he's also avoided the A when he was assigned to Peoria and went back to what he's comfortable with, bigger ice in the KHL.

Then you have Bjugstad who button has at 14th. While the Panthers will benefit on this selection in a few years time, he's not higher than Silf.

I don't know, maybe it's because we are Sens fans and follow every prospect to a T, but Silf is considered a much bigger prospect in the Sens org than it seems many analyst are aware of.
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0 #111 Sandy 2013-01-08 17:08
I have no concern with the forwards. There is depth so the Sens should be okay... long-term injuries? Well that's another issue.

Paul McLean did say today... that the team is still re-building (re-tooling) and developing players. They will not hesitate to play some young Binghamton defensemen.

He also mentioned.. the best goalie in camp will start the season... regardless as to who it is or their contract situation... That's if Anderson isn't ready to go.

Every day I'm getting more and more excited for some Sens hockey. Boycott? Screw that..

We all were excited to see how the young players would manage last season. They exceeded all our expectations by getting into the playoffs. It was such an exciting season.

And that Turris goal in OT in game 4 against the Rangers. SBP erupted louder than I have ever heard --- including the SC Finals.

How can you stay away from this team?

Sure defense is a question.. but the Sens have depth every where else.

McLean was also asked about toughness with no Carkner & Konopka.. He mentioned with a short intense season.. fighters don't get much ice time.

His plan is to use 4 lines & 6 D. That keeps the players fresh and doesn't wear them out. He may need to rotate in players from Bingo if some Sens need rest... or to replace injuries...

I too am wondering if Sunday's practice will be open to the public...
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+1 #112 Sandy 2013-01-08 17:09
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting spezzafan19:
Will Andrej Sustr sign with a NHL team
this spring?


I hope the Senators will land Sustr this summer!


Murray should sign Sustr and this spring and then
draft Darnell Nurse this summer at the draft!


Just a quick question will Latendresse be resigned
this summer after the season? I know it is still too
early to predict.


The answer to all your questions is Andrew Ladd and Eric Fehr.



According to Pierre McGuire who called a NCAA game last weekend that included Sustr... he said a lot of high-ranking team officials from Detroit, NYR, Philly, Pitts were all there scouting him.

He will be in demand.. Time for Pierre Dorion & Tim Murray to work their majic...
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0 #113 Hax 2013-01-08 17:24
Quoting Canucnik:
Hax: Ya know who I'd like to see get a chance is #50 imagine if he can score @ the NHL Level.



Pardon my ignorance as I get back into NHL fan shape ... but #50?

Vermette?
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0 #114 Sandy 2013-01-08 17:34
Sens are not the only team with D issues.

Philly - Meszaros is not ready to return from Achilles tear. No Pronger, no Matt Carle, Eric Gustaffson has a deep bone bruise. Marc-Andre Bourdon has post-concussion issues.

So who is in worst shape on defense? The Sens or Philly?
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-1 #115 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 17:42
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting spezzafan19:
Will Andrej Sustr sign with a NHL team
this spring?


I hope the Senators will land Sustr this summer!


Murray should sign Sustr and this spring and then
draft Darnell Nurse this summer at the draft!


Just a quick question will Latendresse be resigned
this summer after the season? I know it is still too
early to predict.


The answer to all your questions is Andrew Ladd and Eric Fehr.


Stop with the Andrew Ladd stuff he is Winnipeg! Also Eric Fehr sucks!
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0 #116 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 17:43
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting spezzafan19:
Will Andrej Sustr sign with a NHL team
this spring?


I hope the Senators will land Sustr this summer!


Murray should sign Sustr and this spring and then
draft Darnell Nurse this summer at the draft!


Just a quick question will Latendresse be resigned
this summer after the season? I know it is still too
early to predict.


The answer to all your questions is Andrew Ladd and Eric Fehr.


I want too see Corey Perry in a Senators uniform!
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-2 #117 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 17:49
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting spezzafan19:
Will Andrej Sustr sign with a NHL team
this spring?


I hope the Senators will land Sustr this summer!


Murray should sign Sustr and this spring and then
draft Darnell Nurse this summer at the draft!


Just a quick question will Latendresse be resigned
this summer after the season? I know it is still too
early to predict.


The answer to all your questions is Andrew Ladd and Eric Fehr.



According to Pierre McGuire who called a NCAA game last weekend that included Sustr... he said a lot of high-ranking team officials from Detroit, NYR, Philly, Pitts were all there scouting him.

He will be in demand.. Time for Pierre Dorion & Tim Murray to work their majic...


Why would Pitt be looking at him they are stacked at D prospect and and have a boatload of defencemen!?

Also the New York Rangers are also stacked at defence also why would they be looking at Sustr?

I kind of understand why the Detroit are looking at Sustr they are also thin on defence!

Same as Philly they are thin on defence also!
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0 #118 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-08 18:03
I think any team who has an active scouting group will be looking into Sustr, or has at some point already, considering the product he brings to the ice.

As for Pitts, if they are so stacked, then where are all the Gonchar rumors coming from, they wouldn't need him?

These things happen all the time. Who gets him is the bigger story!!
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0 #119 Canucnik 2013-01-08 18:28
OK Hax 60 is 10 too many. Freudian Slip, I just keep seein' the #50 written all over this guy. The guys that know, big scorers, like our Paul, say it's a half step if he finds it we have "Pure Gold!"
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0 #120 Andrews Theory 2013-01-08 18:42
Not a snow balls chance in hell Tampa parts with Hedman, he and Stamkos are their two main building blocks of the future.

The problem w Hedman so far is that he really didn't have a decent supporting cast to help him transition. He was essentially their #1 D last year and had no one to teach him the ropes.

this year Hedman will be scary good and surrounded by experienced veterans much in the way Subban has Markov and Karlsson had Gonchar.
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0 #121 Sandy 2013-01-08 18:57
Quoting spezzafan19:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting spezzafan19:
Will Andrej Sustr sign with a NHL team
this spring?


I hope the Senators will land Sustr this summer!


Murray should sign Sustr and this spring and then
draft Darnell Nurse this summer at the draft!


Just a quick question will Latendresse be resigned
this summer after the season? I know it is still too
early to predict.


The answer to all your questions is Andrew Ladd and Eric Fehr.



According to Pierre McGuire who called a NCAA game last weekend that included Sustr... he said a lot of high-ranking team officials from Detroit, NYR, Philly, Pitts were all there scouting him.

He will be in demand.. Time for Pierre Dorion & Tim Murray to work their majic...


Why would Pitt be looking at him they are stacked at D prospect and and have a boatload of defencemen!?

Also the New York Rangers are also stacked at defence also why would they be looking at Sustr?

I kind of understand why the Detroit are looking at Sustr they are also thin on defence!

Same as Philly they are thin on defence also!


I can't explain that.. BUT he is huge... skates really well.. He's not physical... but McGuire said he will be a good one... So I guess size counts..

I know Pittsburgh is loaded with D... just like Phoenix..
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0 #122 ZachPraiseTheSwedes 2013-01-08 19:00
I'd love to see us get Zack Bogosian.

I realize that's doubtful but I think he's exactly what we need
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-2 #123 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 19:18
I know that Sustr is tall but I can't understand why Sustr is not more physical he has the exact same type of physical frame as Chara.

On some of the highlight videos on youtube Sustr
looks like Chara on the ice.
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-3 #124 spezzafan19 2013-01-08 19:19
Come on Murray if you read senschirp
go out and sign Andrej Sustr this
spring or summer!
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+1 #125 DenisVial 2013-01-08 19:50
The Sens open on the road in Winnipeg with an afternoon game. Mendes says 1:30 start time.
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+2 #126 frankiefives 2013-01-08 19:57
It's a clusterf... of forwards right now. I can seriously see a trade early on to bolster the D. If Regin can show flashes, maybe he could be used as bait? I would LOVE to see a line of Neil-Smith-Gree ning. They would be a tough trio to play against and could add some scoring as well. Tough thing is, it would likely mean one of Regin or Latendresse gets dropped to the 4th line
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-1 #127 jaydog 2013-01-08 20:09
Quoting spezzafan19:
Quoting moneymike:
Hjalmarsson is the way to go.

Smith and possibly Bishop? Chicago needs a centreman and lacks goaltending.

Hjalmarsson is a top four defenceman. As others have suggested, he would fit long-term.



No Bishop that is a overpayment!

Save Bishop for another trade later in the season or
during the summer!


The hammer wont come cheap but he may be worth a high end prospect or a basket of mid prospects and smith.

If Chi wants a good tender, Anderson straight up.
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+4 #128 Peluso 2013-01-08 22:00
Lehner starts the season, which will be on the road, and plays until he loses. This will come in his 9th game, so that he can be sent down to maintain AHL salary.

Weircoch stays in Ottawa until Lundin gets back. We need the size.

Look for a trade for a d-man by Monday.

Silfverberg gets the first goal of the season.

btw, I have decided to rock "The Southcoast Mullet" this season. That's when you shave your pubes, but grow out your ass hair. It's a sharp look.

Go fuckin Sens.

~Peluso
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0 #129 Sandy 2013-01-08 22:17
I can't see the Sens trading Smith. Neil needs some help in the toughness department. BTW he is also pretty good on the PK.

Maybe it would be better for the Sens to start the season with something like a 3 game road trip. IF they start off good... maybe the fans will attend the games when they come back...
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+1 #130 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-01-08 22:59
I'm really excited to see what Lats can do with Turris and Alfie. We all know Turris and Alfie have that skilled-game chemistry between them, I feel as if Lats can be an upgrade from Foligno and be the primary beneficiary of a lot of goals on that line.

I like our depth up front though. If either of Silfverberg or Lats don't necessarily work on their lines earlier on, you have guys that have played in the top six before in Greening, Regin, and to a lesser extend Condra that have been decent if not good.

I think personally with a top 6 role Peter Regin will look great.
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0 #131 spezzafan19 2013-01-09 00:50
Quoting jaydog:
Quoting spezzafan19:
Quoting moneymike:
Hjalmarsson is the way to go.

Smith and possibly Bishop? Chicago needs a centreman and lacks goaltending.

Hjalmarsson is a top four defenceman. As others have suggested, he would fit long-term.



No Bishop that is a overpayment!

Save Bishop for another trade later in the season or
during the summer!


The hammer wont come cheap but he may be worth a high end prospect or a basket of mid prospects and smith.

If Chi wants a good tender, Anderson straight up.


I say Murray should wait and see what happens to the defence or sign someone. Murray should hold onto his trade chips till later in the season and trade for a proven scorer on second line!

I am not a big Latendresse fan.

I would like to see Murray trade for someone like Corey Perry!
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0 #132 spezzafan19 2013-01-09 01:01
I am looking forward to seeing Silfverberg
play on the top line with Spezza!
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+1 #133 nicholas19 2013-01-09 01:47
Quoting Andrews Theory:
Not a snow balls chance in hell Tampa parts with Hedman, he and Stamkos are their two main building blocks of the future.

The problem w Hedman so far is that he really didn't have a decent supporting cast to help him transition. He was essentially their #1 D last year and had no one to teach him the ropes.

this year Hedman will be scary good and surrounded by experienced veterans much in the way Subban has Markov and Karlsson had Gonchar.


stop hyping him up fool! maybe stevie Y reads this and buys into him sucking and trades him to us!
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+1 #134 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2013-01-09 06:51
Welcome back everybody! I decided to to swing a new name, which will always make me laugh! I love this guys posts as I can be in the worst mood .... read SpezFan19's thoughts .... and BOOM - I'm in a great mood.

Maybe we can trade for Andrew Ladd??????

Hey Chirp - a little late on the up-date - lol. That news was so 6:30pm!

I'm just pumped to see hockey back!

As Peluso would say .... GO F-ING SENS GO!


The Artist Formally known as Sens Saint.
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0 #135 sben 2013-01-09 07:28
kovalev in floridas training camp.
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+1 #136 SensChirp 2013-01-09 07:35
Quoting #1 Fan of SpezzaFan19!!!!:

Hey Chirp - a little late on the up-date - lol. That news was so 6:30pm!


I was out to dinner and then busy playing hockey. Don't worry, I'll get this silly social life under wraps and shift the focus to all Sens, all the time in the near future haha
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+1 #137 boom 2013-01-09 09:00
This is a good read, re: prospects...

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/83577/minor-league-system-for-ottawa-senators-rich-in-offense/#more-83577
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0 #138 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-09 09:10
Hey #1 Fan of SpezzaFan19!!!! , don't forgot the famous spezzafan19 comments of wanting Cory Perry in a Sens uniform ;)
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0 #139 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-09 09:17
It's nice to listen to PM on the Team in the mornings, not being related to lockout bullsh!t. Finally back to Hockey discussions.

Today he was asked about Gonchar and the possibility he could end up back in Pitts via trade. And what does he say? "No way".

I'm happy I'm not the only one who thinks this. I mean, you can see that the Pens have a solid D core and a very solid young presence on the back-end, waiting for a shot. So why would RS take on Gonchar's 5.5 Mil salary for the rest of the year, when they could just wait till he's an FA and get him for free? I know he's friends with Malkin but that's not going to make a trade happen. It makes no sense, and PM even went as far as to say it's Garrioch's story and he's just looking to report something due to the limited amount of info out there right now. Nice!!! Garrioch needs a slap in the face now and again.

The bigger question is what will happen to the Russian born players in the KHL right now? I can't see Dat's not coming back to Detroit, they've treated him WAY too good. But Kovalchuk, he's a different story. Would suck to be Jersey this year if he decided to be a no show.
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0 #140 Andrews Theory 2013-01-09 09:23
Quoting ZachPraiseTheSwedes:
I'd love to see us get Zack Bogosian.

I realize that's doubtful but I think he's exactly what we need


the Jets now have Enstrom big Buf, Hainsey and Trouba in the mix , couple that with Bogosian is an RFA next year and his stock isn't that high ..maybe it's not that big of a stretch?

I'd certainy like that addition.
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+1 #141 miguel 2013-01-09 09:34
Quoting Peluso:
Lehner starts the season, which will be on the road, and plays until he loses. This will come in his 9th game, so that he can be sent down to maintain AHL salary.

Weircoch stays in Ottawa until Lundin gets back. We need the size.

Look for a trade for a d-man by Monday.

Silfverberg gets the first goal of the season.

btw, I have decided to rock "The Southcoast Mullet" this season. That's when you shave your pubes, but grow out your ass hair. It's a sharp look.

Go fuckin Sens.

~Peluso


Great predictions Peluso!

Southcoast Mullet, man that is funny, but a little disturbing :)

my prediction Peluso drops the first idiot to wear a leafs jersey at an Ottawa Boston game :)
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0 #142 Dirtysweet 2013-01-09 09:57
My concern is that the proposed schedule has teams playing every secon day. How is this going to effect players over thirty by the time March-April rolls around?
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0 #143 Dirtysweet 2013-01-09 10:02
*second
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0 #144 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-09 10:09
Quoting Dirtysweet:
*second


PM talked about it in a news conference, said they would just need to ensure they roll 4 lines more frequent and if need be, do more call ups from the A to keep fresh legs in the lineup. This would let some guys get a day off here and there. I guess they could just hold an extra body or two in the roster who they could swap in and out as well.

It makes sense, but in the end how fresh are the legs of our AHL guys, who are playing a significant amount of hockey already. Add on top of that, they'll be playing a much tougher brand of Hockey once many of the stars are taken from the lineup.

Either way, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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0 #145 sens_fan_mtl1 2013-01-09 10:10
He also mentioned.. the best goalie in camp will start the season... regardless as to who it is or their contract situation... That's if Anderson isn't ready to go.

So...Lets say Anderson has an average camps but Lehner is outstanding...w hat does he do...does he go straight to Lehner? All the so called experts are saying if a team has any sort of 5-6 game losing streaks they are probably done for?
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0 #146 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-09 10:19
Further to my comment about Paul MacLean saying they'd need to roll 4 lines more frequent. This idea would mean a much faster, most skilled game of Hockey. So think of the SEL or another euro league, where they usually average about 50 games a season. The games are not about hitting and ferocious body checks, it's about crisp clean passes, play-making and slick dangling. If this is what we are to expect, the Sens current roster is setup perfect for it AND most of our guys have just come from playing in those types of systems overseas.

So much emphasis has been put on us not being tough enough this season, but we won't even need that in a 48 game schedule, if the brand we are watching is based more on skill.

Now that's sure to change when the playoffs roll around, but if Ottawa gets themselves into a good playoff situation early on, and it looks like we can fall into the top 8, who's to say BM doesn't make a move that bulks up the bottom 6 a little for a playoff push?
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0 #147 MethotToMyMadness 2013-01-09 10:26
Quoting sens_fan_mtl1:
He also mentioned.. the best goalie in camp will start the season... regardless as to who it is or their contract situation... That's if Anderson isn't ready to go.

So...Lets say Anderson has an average camps but Lehner is outstanding...what does he do...does he go straight to Lehner? All the so called experts are saying if a team has any sort of 5-6 game losing streaks they are probably done for?


I know he said that, but what does Ottawa plan on doing, keeping 3 guys up in our system? Sure, he'll want to play Lehner, especially if he's hot. But if that happens, then we are stuck with two starting goalies on 1 way contracts who aren't playing. This situation also leaves Bingo with no true starter.

On the flip side, they can't send Bishop or Anderson down as a demotion to the farm without clearing waivers and that means someone would snag them up for free.

Leaving Lehner up would force a trade of one of our goalies and in a forced situation, that puts all the leverage into the hands of the trading partner, which means Ottawa would get robbed in the return. I just don't see it happening.

Lehner will get his audition, he will do great, but he will be sent back down to hold the fort in the A. It's not a big deal, everyone expected him to complete the season in the A this year anyway, before the lockout. So why is bringing him up on a short season so important? Roll with Anderson and Bishop, it makes the most sense. By all means, if both of them fail, which I can't see happening, trade one and bring Lehner up.
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0 #148 miguel 2013-01-09 10:59
Quoting MethotToMyMadness:
Quoting sens_fan_mtl1:
He also mentioned.. the best goalie in camp will start the season... regardless as to who it is or their contract situation... That's if Anderson isn't ready to go.

So...Lets say Anderson has an average camps but Lehner is outstanding...what does he do...does he go straight to Lehner? All the so called experts are saying if a team has any sort of 5-6 game losing streaks they are probably done for?


I know he said that, but what does Ottawa plan on doing, keeping 3 guys up in our system? Sure, he'll want to play Lehner, especially if he's hot. But if that happens, then we are stuck with two starting goalies on 1 way contracts who aren't playing. This situation also leaves Bingo with no true starter.

On the flip side, they can't send Bishop or Anderson down as a demotion to the farm without clearing waivers and that means someone would snag them up for free.

Leaving Lehner up would force a trade of one of our goalies and in a forced situation, that puts all the leverage into the hands of the trading partner, which means Ottawa would get robbed in the return. I just don't see it happening.

Lehner will get his audition, he will do great, but he will be sent back down to hold the fort in the A. It's not a big deal, everyone expected him to complete the season in the A this year anyway, before the lockout. So why is bringing him up on a short season so important? Roll with Anderson and Bishop, it makes the most sense. By all means, if both of them fail, which I can't see happening, trade one and bring Lehner up.


I am pretty sure that both Lehner and Bishop would not have to clear waivers if they started in Ottawa and then were sent down, neither one qualifies to the waiver dreaft, if sent down as of now, I do believe, correct me if I am wrong.
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0 #149 Hax 2013-01-09 11:15
Quoting miguel:
I am pretty sure that both Lehner and Bishop would not have to clear waivers if they started in Ottawa and then were sent down, neither one qualifies to the waiver dreaft, if sent down as of now, I do believe, correct me if I am wrong.


I think Bishop would have to clear, but even if he didn't he'd get his NHL money.

It's pretty clear that a goalie gets traded unless Lehner emerges from camp as 100% needing an extra year in Bingo.

If Lehner is the hands down starter at the end of camp then Anderson probably gets dealt. If Lehner is too good for the AHL then Bishop probably gets dealt.
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+1 #150 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2013-01-09 11:21
I LOVE ANDERSON BETWEEN THE PIPES, but with that said, I really think Robin is our opening day starter in Winnipeg. Let's face it, the guy's been playing lights out hockey down in the A, facing on average 40 shots per a night. Anderson is not yet in 'game form'.

On another note, I was reading some 'homer' end of season predictions (HFB) from some delusional Jets fans ..... and I can't believe how many of them think we'll finish in the bottom 5 in the East, while their team makes the playoffs. I guess that winter freeze is really starting to numb those tools' brains in the Peg.

I can't wait for the Senator beat down that's laid on those Jets - Jan. 19th!
F-ing Jets' Fans.

Where's Tookie?

Oh .... I almost forgot, I think we should trade for Corey Perry! ; )
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0 #151 DenisVial 2013-01-09 11:25
Quoting Hax:
Quoting miguel:
I am pretty sure that both Lehner and Bishop would not have to clear waivers if they started in Ottawa and then were sent down, neither one qualifies to the waiver dreaft, if sent down as of now, I do believe, correct me if I am wrong.


I think Bishop would have to clear, but even if he didn't he'd get his NHL money.

It's pretty clear that a goalie gets traded unless Lehner emerges from camp as 100% needing an extra year in Bingo.

If Lehner is the hands down starter at the end of camp then Anderson probably gets dealt. If Lehner is too good for the AHL then Bishop probably gets dealt.


I have a feeling that Anderson is traded by the end of February. Some struggling team is going to need a goalie and I don't think Murray will hesitate in handing the reins to Lehner regardless of the standings.
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0 #152 Andrews Theory 2013-01-09 11:30
Quoting #1 Fan of SpezzaFan19!!!!:
I LOVE ANDERSON BETWEEN THE PIPES, but with that said, I really think Robin is our opening day starter in Winnipeg. Let's face it, the guy's been playing lights out hockey down in the A, facing on average 40 shots per a night. Anderson is not yet in 'game form'.

On another note, I was reading some 'homer' end of season predictions (HFB) from some delusional Jets fans ..... and I can't believe how many of them think we'll finish in the bottom 5 in the East, while their team makes the playoffs. I guess that winter freeze is really starting to numb those tools' brains in the Peg.

I can't wait for the Senator beat down that's laid on those Jets - Jan. 19th!
F-ing Jets' Fans.

Where's Tookie?

Oh .... I almost forgot, I think we should trade for Corey Perry! ; )



When your #1 center gets 40 points in a full season, it's pretty ambitious to think you are a playoff team...
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0 #153 Dirtysweet 2013-01-09 11:34
I think Murray might end up dealing Anderson before then. You have to think by sending Lehner back to Bingo might hurt his confidence and inpede his development. Lehner has done his time in Bingo as per management request. Let the kid play. (should he do well in training camp) Just a thought...
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+1 #154 miguel 2013-01-09 11:46
wow how qickly we go from lockout right into goalie controversy...

Anderson has been by far the best starting goalie we have had play in Ottawa in a very long time.

For once we can boast some great goalie depth, and all most want to do is move on of them.

Easy people, let us enjoy the battle that will ensue for the starting position, let the best man start off, and perhaps we ride 3 goailes, until they decide which two are the best for now and then either send one down, or make the trade.

I really think that writing off Anderson, who arguably, almost single handedly got us into the playoffs and almost helped us get by the NYR, is very short sited... IMO
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+1 #155 Hax 2013-01-09 11:50
Quoting Dirtysweet:
I think Murray might end up dealing Anderson before then. You have to think by sending Lehner back to Bingo might hurt his confidence and inpede his development. Lehner has done his time in Bingo as per management request. Let the kid play. (should he do well in training camp) Just a thought...


Lehner can 100% handle going back to Bingo regardless of the circumstances. People who question his mental toughness don't know him well enough. All this hoopla about Lehner being mistreated or him being frustrated is 100% fiction created by uninformed fans (not saying you are among them of course).

If Anderson plays really well in camp and Bishop is solid then Lehner will go to Bingo until such time as Murray has a deal in place to move someone out and bring Lehner up. And Lehner will be FINE with that and continue to work hard in Bingo.
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0 #156 black lung 2013-01-09 11:52
Quoting #1 Fan of SpezzaFan19!!!!:


Where's Tookie?


The man who "knows nothing about football" ?

Probably still in his room crying about his NEW YORK JETS.
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0 #157 Hax 2013-01-09 12:03
Noesen is invited to camp according to B-Mac:

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Some teams not fully decided on underage juniors to invite to camp - most are - but here's a list that should be more or less accurate:

Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA), Matt Dumba (MIN), Alex Galchenyuk (MTL), Ryan Strome/Griffin Reinhart (NYI), Cody Ceci/Stefan Noesen (OTT).

Dougie Hamilton (BOS), Mikhail Grigorenko (BUF), Ryan Murphy (CAR), Boone Jenner (CBJ), Brett Ritchie/Radek Faksa (DAL), Nail Yakupov (EDM).

Scott Laughton (PHI), Morgan Rielly (TOR), Frank Corrado (VAN), Mark Scheifele (WPG). Most are confirmed but a few are still "likely."
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0 #158 TrueSensFan 2013-01-09 12:15
Quoting miguel:
wow how qickly we go from lockout right into goalie controversy...

Anderson has been by far the best starting goalie we have had play in Ottawa in a very long time.

For once we can boast some great goalie depth, and all most want to do is move on of them.

Easy people, let us enjoy the battle that will ensue for the starting position, let the best man start off, and perhaps we ride 3 goailes, until they decide which two are the best for now and then either send one down, or make the trade.

I really think that writing off Anderson, who arguably, almost single handedly got us into the playoffs and almost helped us get by the NYR, is very short sited... IMO



THAT IS ALL!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself. Anderson is one of the main reasons we made it into the playoffs and did as well as we did against NYR
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0 #159 miguel 2013-01-09 12:16
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Dirtysweet:
I think Murray might end up dealing Anderson before then. You have to think by sending Lehner back to Bingo might hurt his confidence and inpede his development. Lehner has done his time in Bingo as per management request. Let the kid play. (should he do well in training camp) Just a thought...


Lehner can 100% handle going back to Bingo regardless of the circumstances. People who question his mental toughness don't know him well enough. All this hoopla about Lehner being mistreated or him being frustrated is 100% fiction created by uninformed fans (not saying you are among them of course).

If Anderson plays really well in camp and Bishop is solid then Lehner will go to Bingo until such time as Murray has a deal in place to move someone out and bring Lehner up. And Lehner will be FINE with that and continue to work hard in Bingo.


Very well put Hax, these are all professionals, and MANY goalies put in their time in the A before making it up to the big leagues... ask Anderson who spent the better part of 4 years in the minors :)
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0 #160 Hax 2013-01-09 12:20
Gotta assume the next post will be about the goalies (given we've had a D post and a forwards post) but since we're jumping the gun already:

I totally agree that Anderson is the guy at the moment and expect him to be our starter this year. But it's very possible that Lehner changes that with his play.

I think Lehner will be our #1 in a few years no matter what, and possibly better than Anderson once all is said and done, but that time may come sooner.

Really, I see Bishop as a great plan B (or C) but don't expect him to push Anderson and Lehner out by outplaying them.
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+1 #161 PistolPete 2013-01-09 12:26
Just a rumour, but looks like it's got wheels:

Brian Burke fired from MLSE...

You heard it hear first.
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+1 #162 spezzerman 2013-01-09 12:27
bombshell - Burke fired according to Bob Mackenzie.
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+1 #163 Johne 2013-01-09 12:27
LOL Burke gone! this is amazing, or was Bobby Mac duped?
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+1 #164 RUSHRLZ 2013-01-09 12:28
Wow! Crazy if true!
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+1 #165 Johne 2013-01-09 12:28
http://twitter.com/RealKyper - Breaking #NHL news confirmed #Leafs Brian Burke done with the Leafs. Details to follow.

hahahahahaha
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+1 #166 TrueSensFan 2013-01-09 12:30
WOW



"Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Toronto Maple Leafs have apparently fired Brian Burke as general manager. Working on official confirmations. "
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+1 #167 RUSHRLZ 2013-01-09 12:30
I'd almost bet....

MLSE wanted Luongo deal done...

Burke vehemently rejected the notion based on contract cost + term + pieces to get the deal done...
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0 #168 RUSHRLZ 2013-01-09 12:35
Yeah say what you will, and a piece of me likes Burke for the grumpy old fashioned bastard he is, but his stubborn stances on *things* such as self imposed trade deadlines he would never waver from right down to the "never" position about long term 'cap circumventing' deals...

Contentious stuff and probably the new buyout provisions in the new CBA were causing even more contention...
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+1 #169 Johne 2013-01-09 12:35
@Rush

that or they didn't want Burke to be the one to blow up the team or make the splash. whoever makes the Luongo trade will have that stain on their shirt for the rest of their career.
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+1 #170 Hax 2013-01-09 12:35
LOL @ Leafs Nation and Burke in general.
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0 #171 Hax 2013-01-09 12:42
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