If you’re looking for positives, I guess the fact that the two sides are talking is a good thing.
Discussions held on Sunday represented a third consecutive day of meetings but reaction afterwards seemed anything but positive. The talks over the weekend primarily seemed to steer clear of the core economic issues that are the cause of the significant gap between the two sides.
Until there is serious conversation on that front, there is no reason to believe NHL hockey will be back anytime soon.
Meanwhile, in Binghamton, the Senators farm team is wrapping up their first weekend of training camp and over in Finland, Erik Karlsson has already notched his first goal for his new team in Jokerit.
One interesting note from BSens camp is the fact that Mika Zibanejad has started training camp as a left winger. With Spezza, Turris and Smith locked in as the Sens first three centres in Ottawa, Zibanejad has a better chance of cracking the big club as winger. He skated on the left side, with Da Costa in the middle on Petersson on the other wing over the weekend.
Hope to have a more extensive update from Binghamton’s training camp later this week when Don Rieber, who works as the Binghamton Senators examiner, contributes some of his initial insights on the team in Bingo.
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As a bit of distraction while we wait for either good news on the CBA front or the start of the season down in Binghamton, let's do a little Q&A. You can either submit your questions via email to
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or in the comment section below. I'll do my best to answer as many as I can.
Reports from Danish newspaper Dagbladet Børsen say Peter Regin has agreement in place to return to Herning Blue Fox of Oddset Ligaen league.
I understand the team wants Bishop to be playing but the whole purpose of Lehner still being in Bingo is that he has to prove he's capable of being a legit number 1 tender.
I hope they atleast do a 50/50 split instead of having a starter and backup.
About the lineup...
I love the Zibanejad-DaCos ta-Petersson line. That should have some serious fire power.
Then with silfverberg and Stone on another you have essentially 2 #1 lines.
I also hope Prince can stay in Bingo. He could really benefit from playing in a mens league and a pro atmosphere. I think he has a chance at being a solid 2nd liner in the nhl some day. He has a pure offensive ability you just don't see that often.
As good as the offense looks, I still think the teams strength will be on D. We have some big boys back there who can be physical as well as move the puck. Most of them also have either a lot of AHL experience or are basically NHL ready
Who do you like better as a prospect. Silfverburg or Stone?
Have to go with Silfverberg right now.
Although in some ways, Mark Stone really is the model prospect for the organization. A fantastic example of the progression that is possible in a player with hard work and commitment to working on his game.
The way Stone has progressed and improved since being drafted has been pretty remarkable. When you consider that he is a couple years younger than Silfverberg, it's entirely possible my answer would be different two years from now.
What do others think?
http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20120930/SPORTS/309300054/Binghamton-Senators-Jared-Cowen-just-happy-playing?nclick_check=1
If both side are not prepared to budge we may not have hockey this season.
They can talk all they want but if they don't each bend it could be a stalemate.
Lets just say I am not ordering center ice anytime soon unless they start airing bsens games.
Chirp, why do most people pencil in Smith as 3rd center. I like Regin there myself with Smith as the ultimate 4th line center(or 3rd line winger). What do u think?
All the players have to do is respond to the offer that the NHL made with the percentages they are on record as wanting and this gets done. The players need to do away with their BS union. It is hurting them more than helping them. It cost them a year of earnings for absolutely nothing. It is going to cost them more earnings as this drags on for absolutely nothing.
Chirp - why are NHL players so dumb?
As much as i hate to say it, I don't think we are going to seen any hockey (in the NHL anyways) this season, POSSIBLY maybe even miss a little of next season. Neither side is really showing any desperate measure to get a deal done. I know it's only pre-season, but if there is a deal to be had, there will have to be A LOT of negotiating.
The day Gary Bettman is no longer a part of the NHL, is the day i will buy a lamborghini..
We have one, it's called the CHL, check it out....
Spokane, Plymouth, Erie, Saginaw, Tri-City, Everett, Portland, and Seattle are in Canada?
NHL/NHLPA
Everyday I care less and less and at some point, not too far away, I'm gone. Nuff said,
Signed
Your boss!!!!!!!!!!! !!
has come back with a ridiculous counter offer of nothing!!
They seem to be stuck at no movement, and stare at each other in discussing secondary issues.
To me, it's up to the NHLPA to counter with a serious offer
and see the reaction of the NHL .
The magic number equalling 50-50 could be attained if NHL lowers from 17.5% to 12.3 %. So they really are not that far apart if they both compromise !!
What's so difficult about getting a resolution, by simply negotiating in good faith by both sides ??
We want to see hockey as soon as possible !!
I ask again, who do the players think they are? I hope the NHLPA gets buried. It started out of necessity but now it exists to fight for the undeserving excesses of spoiled rotten millionaires. As if the owners are in a hurry to spend more money on a bunch on ingrates.
I suppose you are right, great work...Would you settle for a subset of the CHL then in the OHL?
Is the players share of revenue only for their salaries or does it include a whole bunch of other stuff.
I'd be interested in knowing what % the players get of the money that is left over ONCE expenses etc have been paid - take into account hotel rooms, travel costs, equipment, training facilities, medical and dental benefits, utilities, payment of other organisational staff and see how they like being offered 50 or 60% of that.
Unless they are of course.
Lehner and Bishop should split time, because even though Bishop is better right now, Lehner will be our goalie of the future so he needs some good development.
My sources aren't hearing the same thing
Try a first line of an NHL first line playing in the AHL...
RNH, Eberle, Hall ouch! Add to that Schultz and Paajarvi
Then you have Couterier playing with Schenn. Add to that Gustafsson, Wellwood.
The Marlies have also bolstered their line up with Gardiner
For ahl cities, this could prove to be the most exciting hockey yet.
PS Bill Waters is an idiot!
I heard a part of an Ian Mendes interview on the Team 1200 this morning. He said one issue the players wanted was when on the road.. each player wanted their own room. As it is now.. a player does not get his own room unless he has played 600 NHL games. Sorry, but that to me just goes to show these guys are a little out of touch..or something else. They tried to tell the Owners back in July that some of them spend too much $$ on their GM's, coaches, etc.. but now each one wants their own hotel room -- in a 5-star hotel? That's ridiculous. Since when do they have the right to tell their Owners how to spend their money?
It seems that when a stalement happens.. instead of each side having a little give and take.. they just walk away when they don't get what they want. This is not getting settled soon.
With the growth of the NHL the last several seasons and revenue higher than it has ever been.. what are these people thinking when they are prepared to lose a season and halt that growth? To the fans.. that appears to be pretty stupid and greedy.
Well on a more positive note for me... in just under 3 weeks I head to Binghamton for 2 games.. Can hardly wait.
Also Pierre McGuire said this morning that NBC is in constant contact almost daily with Bettman to try to get this settled.
Make it 50-50 -- and get it going or face the consequences of much less revenue to split when and if you return.
While I agree they don't develop their prospects well, I personally think Kadri will never make the nhl. Or at least be a consistent scorer in the nhl. And if he can't do that he prob won't play bottom six for long either since he's brutal at defence.
Still find it hilarious Toronto picked him a head of Cowen. Way to go Burke
Within a day or two... expect a rebuttal from Brian Burke. It appears Cherry & Burke don't like each other...
BTW -- the NHL says it has lost 100M not having pre-season games... So the PA is holding out for their 57%? But how much revenue will be left?
No response is usually an indicator that nobody can help you out. I'm sure if someone had games recorded, they'd pass them along.