(UPDATE 10:35 AM)- With injuries to Kaspars Daugavins and Zack Smith last night, the Ottawa Senators have recalled Stephane Da Costa from Binghamton of the AHL. Da Costa has 9 goals and 10 assists in 21 AHL games. Sounds like Smith could be sidelined on Saturday afternoon in Anaheim.
The San Jose Sharks have been one of the best teams in the NHL this season.
The Senators saw exactly why in the early going but the spectacular play of Craig Anderson slowed the San Jose attack and the Sens made their opportunities count. With their 4-1 win at HP Pavilion, the pesky Sens pass the Philadelphia Flyers for 4th in the Eastern Conference.
It was all San Jose in the early going but Craig Anderson was able to weather the storm, making a number of spectacular stops. Winchester scored to get the Sharks on the board first but this game could have easily been 4-0 half way through the first period if not for Anderson.
The Sens responded well to the play of Anderson, tying the game on a goal by Kyle Turris.
Early in the second, it was Turris again, leading an odd man rush and setting up Erik Karlsson for his seventh of the season. After an ugly kneeing incident involving Jamie McGinn and Jason Spezza, the Sens went to the power play and made the Sharks pay. Greening ripped a shot high, short side to give Ottawa a 3-1 lead heading into the final frame.
Colin Greening buried his second of the game midway through the third period and put this one to bed. The Sharks dominated on the shot clock (36-19) but as has so often been the case lately, Craig Anderson stood on his head. Third star two weeks ago, first star last week and now has to be a favourite for player of the month.
He has been huge during the Sens during a mind boggling 13-2-2 run.
Two goal night for Greening giving him 11 on the season, Two points for Turris bringing him to 13 on the year and two more assist for Spezza raising his point total to 50 on the season.
The Sens have now won five straight on the road and have not lost in regulation in their last 11 away from SBP. Another tough test lined up Saturday afternoon as the Senators visit the surging Anaheim Ducks.
- Couple of scary injuries for the Senators in this one. In the first period, Kapars Daugavins blocked a Brent Burns point shot and despite finishing the shift, did not return. Then in the second period, Zack Smith and Brad Winchester accidentally collided with Smith taking the worst of it. Looked a little wobbly going off and was kept out for precautionary reasons. Kyle Turris and Erik Karlsson were both banged up in the third but did return. Will have to wait until tomorrow to get updates on the two injured forwards but it certainly looks like Andre Petersson will get a chance on Saturday.
- Solid debut for defenceman Mark "BoroCop" Borowiecki. He looked comfortable in his 11:28 of ice time. Had a couple of a solid hits and drew a penalty in the first period.
- The Sportsnet crew touched on the possibility of Ales Hemsky as a guy the Sens could look at leading up to the deadline. He is a guy with all the skill in the world that just hasn't been able to get it going this season. Certainly seems to fit the bill of a top six forward but not someone the Sens should pay a premium for.
Goals for this season:153 - Goals against: 151
I'm just sayin'
Paul MacLean on Daugavins: "He's hurting right now - but he's from Latvia, so he should be ok."
Welcome to 4th place indeed, nation.
saw that on mendes twitter. man if they could give an update on Z. Smith. just amazing win by the sens.
Sure enough, last 2 Sens games I watched were both losses. So I'm going to take a small bit of credit for this win. Haha.
Can't wait for the highlights to show up online. Hope Smith is ok. He's been fantastic this year.
Go Sens Go!
'IS THIS REAL LIFE'
Cant stress how important Turris has been. When is the last time we had a legit 2LC? I dont remember
Worried about Smith though. That looked bad. Has concussion written all over it
Watch the fuckin games bro! It's probably some of the best hockey this team has played in years. Let's just hope my 2nd last statement doesn't jinx it.
Hahaha. No way man. Last 3 games I watched were vs the Jets , vs Montreal, and vs Boston. I am a bad luck charm.
I won't start watching until we lose a few games... if that ever even happens.
Cannot say enough great things about this team and am very happy to say that I am a Sens fan. The season up to this point is not at all what I expected.
GO SENS GO!
Great debut for Borowiecki, looked solid and very comfortable with and without the puck. Can't wait to see more of him.
But wow I cant believe the hockey Anderson and this team are playing, makes last years pain go away!
Keep it going boys GO SENS GO
And agreed, no to Hemsky. And take back everything I said about Greening. He's not there to score 50. If he can just do the little things as he has been doing all year thus far, that's more than I can ask for as a fan. Good job boys all around. Makes for a good conversation at work with a bunch of Habs fans.
I just dont see hemsky as a fit.
regardless, what a welcome suprise this year has been!
2012-01-10 23:14
I say in a couple of weeks trade Regin, Lee and Lehner to Edmonton for Hemsky and Whitney and trade a 3rd or 4th rounder to NYI for Nabokov.
Hemsky would make a great replacement for Alfie when he retires. Besides who wants to play in Edmonton. Also Whitney could rest his angle until a couple of weeks before the playoffs.
Michalek Spezza Greening
Hemsky Turris Alfie
Foligno Smith Condra
Butler Konopka Neil
Daugavins Winchester
Karlsson Kuba
Gonchar Cowen
Philips Whitney
Carkner
Anderson
Nabokov
Unfortunately he's just one of those guys who can't catch a break. He's one of the most injury prone players in the league and the cost to acquire him would just be too high for someone who may not be healthy enough to contribute come playoff time.
UNTOUCHABLE!
nuff said, and considering edmonton is my girlfriend team,having been to quite a few of their games with all the family i have there, FUCK NO on Hemsky !This guy first of all is a playmaker, never shoots. NEVER! Also I'm pretty sure was assembled at the same glass factory in China as Dipietro.
Also regin lee and Lehner wouldn't be enough.
The asking price for Hemsky will be high.
If you were Edmonton would you take on a guy who's lost more time to injury in the last three years than most players combined? or the defenceman who can't stick in the line-up when they already have quite a few of those. The only real piece in play would be Lehner and honestly I don't see him as being enough he is still just a prospect after all.
P.S
I Love Lehner not trying too diminish his value but trying to be realistc
Ea's NHL does not a GM make
Unless you went to the millbury school of management!
wtf....trade lehner to edmonton.....wh at is wrong with you. sens beat one of the league powerhouses and we get more people trying to trade the farm? PUKE.
I wouldn't mind seeing him in Ottawa but only if the price is right.
I think he could fit in with Greening and Spezza, then drop Michalek with Turris and Alfie ... Looks good to me.
Again, if the price is right go for it if there aren't any other options (Ryan/Perry/Par ise) out there.
Looking forward to seeing what Petersson can bring to the table. I hope they give him a chance with Alfie and Turris but I understand the concept of playing him fourth line and letting him soak in the speed and play of the NHL.
The boys are rocking and I'm loving it. Keep it up boys.
GO SENS GO !!
Also noticed he is the captain of the team, could he become the next Alfie, we will wait in see. Praise JAKOB!!
Very, very impressed with Boroweicki's first game. man, he looked poised. He looked like an NHL'er.
A 4-1 road win vs a very good team. Goals that usually dont go in are going in (both Greening goals), too bad about Smitty, SC anything on that?
Not saying Ryan or Hemsky are needed but they would certainly help in the playoffs. The playoffs are a totally different beast, Our top 6 is not deep enough to make a substantial push, sure its gravy we are actually IN a playoff spot but why not make the most of it. If were already this good, not even 1 year into a rebuild, with tons of talent still to come in, why not act like contenders now?
With Alfie on the verge of retirement, I'm sure Murray is looking into it, either this year or the next.
Without a doubt that was on purpose !!
Wow it took awhile for someone to complain, dude even the pro Sens commentary had no issue with the collision. Winchester didnt even brace himself for impact, he never saw Smith.
This is a non issue.
Hey, believe me, I am all for it and I don't mind losing a few lower tier prospects for a little depth to give Alfie a better shot at a cup in one of his last (likely) two seasons. But, the names getting thrown around aren't good options in my opinion. Hemsky hasnt played a full year in years - he will get injured. And, he's barely played any playoff games. If he can't handle the regular season, you think he could hold up in the playoffs? I don't. He is all flash, no substance and for me, he is just not worth it. Ryan might be good but not at the price.
my comment is more about how the poster's tone seems to indicate we need to make a lot of changes to compete in the playoffs If the playoffs started today, we'd be tough to beat in a 7 game series.
Silfverberg actually has a reputation as being more physical and complete as a two-way player than the average swede. The Sens talking heads are absolutely in love with him and wanted him playing over here this year. He and Zibby are going to bring even more talent and grit to the lineup. It really is amazing how much forward talent BM has been able to put together in such a short amount of time from a prospect standpoint. If I'm not mistaken, general consensus has the Sens ranked as the #2 team in the NHL as far as best prospect pools are concerned, behind only Florida.
Nooooo to trading Lehner. No no no. In fact, I think the Sens need to look at taking a goalie relatively early in the draft this year so we have a little more organizational depth at the position for once. It's nice to have a quality starter in his prime in Anderson plus a real up-and-comer in Lehner. We need to make sure that cupboard is stocked.
For the short term (basically the balance of this season and maybe next), I think we can stand to upgrade the 2LW position currently held by Condra and pick up a quality 3/4 D-man for depth. That's not a knock against Condra per se, but I think we can all agree that there's room for upgrade there. I love our 3rd and 4th lines and don't want to break them up at all. I think they're tailor-made for playoff hockey.
If we could manage to pick that 2LW up, I'd put Condra in Butler's spot on the 4th line and Bobby can black ace it until someone goes down.
Nothing yet. Heard it was just a bruise for Daugavins, which is good news. Have to wait for an update on Smith.
Amen my fellow sens fan, Amen. I just dont get this whole trade idiocity, its so mind numbing and ridiculous and sens fans are showing literally - and i am not kidding- the inner leafs fan in them. day after day we get someone trolling around talking trade.
This team's on a budget, is achieving (its no fluke), has stud prospects, has ALL the major picks in its cupboard for the upcoming draft. Then it is beating teams that sens fans would themselves have doubts about beating. How many people here last night thought the sens would bust the Sharks? Surely, they have not done it with stronger teams, how would this one be better. BUT THEY DID IT, and have BEEN DOING IT. WHAT THE **** IS NOT TO LIKE HERE????
when with what the sens have they are already this good, and we know they will ONLY get better, why the hell screw with the formula when its working. All they need to do is figure out what to do with Kuba and get a better backup than Auld for now. Next year its Lehner and then we just need a better Goalie prospect for much further down the road. END OF TINKERING.
just still can't blv the game last night. the more the sharks tried, the more they got stifled and each time the sens tried...well they scored HAHAHAH.
Sick game last night though. Well worth it.
Go Sens go,
Spendzza
F**K Hemsky, I almost wouldn't want that tool on our team for free.
EXACTLY! If it ain't broke don't fix it! This team is winning games as is right now, I'm not sure adding another piece would even be beneficial...
Hemsky will get hurt again, he's even more fragile than Leclaire...How about we just try to make a run with the guys we have and see where we end up. Considering we were supposed to have a lottery pick, I feel this would be the best course of action...
Did this JUST happen? What is this, NHL 12?
Well I agree with you on Hemsky, I dont want him either, although he would be an upgrade to our top 6, I dont think he fits longterm.
Ryan on the other hand I would have no problem giving up either Zib or Stone, a roster player (Condra, Greening, Foligno) and our 1st pick 18th to 25th...for Ryan.
Even if the asking price was Silfverberg instead of Zib or Stone or Silfverberg + one of our prospects...
We have a ton of em and at the most giving up only 2 + a roster player + a late round pick. I dont think it would hurt us at all. Would give us a very solid top 6 and our bottom 6 is already great.
Think about it, with Silfverberg and possibly Zibanejad coming next year, you need 2 spots, preferrably in the top 6 as playing 3rd or 4th line would be a waste for them.
Foligno, Daug, Regin are RFA, Daug maybe and Foligno you can put in the package for Ryan. Regin I would let walk, no more room for him in the Org.
Lines could look like this if Zib, Foligno + our pick was traded for Ryan.
Ryan Spezza Michalek
Silfverberg Turris Alfie
Greening Smith Condra
Daug Konopka Neil
Butler
Stephane Da Costa and Rob Klinkhammer both missing from #BSens' morning skate, but so is Coach Kleinendorst, so it might be optional. #Sens
Hopefully not a call up situation.
NOPE. Zibanejad has already proven he is clutch with that stupendous overtime winner against the russians. The draft is too deep to give up that Pick and sens already have enough scoring. SENS GF: 153, ANA GF: 119. Surely, if Ryan is such a super stud, along with Perry and Getzlaf, they should have more goals? right?yes?no? sens dont need to do anything.
all you Ryan lovers are just elitist snobs who want something similar to the CASH line. ain't happening, this team wins game through committee and frankly, cups are won through committee.
Go=O=Go
Chirp, have to admit though, it would be fun to watch the Klinkhammer in action tomorrow!
We already have Peterssen and Boro up, can we bring Da Costa and Klinkhammer too? Trade or someone is injured...Smitt y...
Go Sens Go!
I don't see why they would need if Daugavins is ok. Foligno can slide into the 3LC and Petersson becomes the winger either on the 3rd or the 4th. Unless...Daugav ins has become more North American and less Latvian? lol
Rubicon! That's the name of my first born!
How about Kaspars at least having the stones to stay on during that shift eh? What a DEMON!
btw - my second born's name is Zamboni.
Not to be picky but crossing the Rubicon is something you can't return from. We can CERTAINLY go negative in our goals for/against.
Also, Count me in amongst those who do NOT want Hemsky. Whatever price we pay is too much - way too much.
I honestly believe he could ruin the team's "identity". He doesn't go into corners or get out front and he won't take a hit to make a play. He does not belong on a team coached by Paul MacLean.
Edmonton fans I know are constantly complaining about Hemsky and if we trade or him, we will be sorry.
Really, Pittsburgh won Cup on shoulders of Crosby and Malkin, Hawks won Cup on shoulders of Kane & Toews, Carolina won Cup on shoulders of Ward and Staal, Tampa won on shoulders of St.Louis and Lecavalier, Richards, Detroit, Datsyuk, Zet, Lidstrom... Only team to win by committee is probably New Jersey and Boston last year...
Tookie for the last time buddy, Anaheim is not going to trade Ryan for a package centered around picks and prospects. It's just not going to happen. Keep dreaming my man.
And we will win on the shoulders of Spezza and Anderson.
Praise Alfie!
baaahahahahaha! !! Every single one of those teams won as a TEAM not on the shoulders of two or three players lol Hilarious!!!! Don't forget Anaheim, they won by committee too.
Anaheim are struglling but Ryan has 17 goals which would put him 3rd on the sens at this point. He's scored more than 30 goals in every full season he has spent in the NHL with a high watermark of 35. Of the current Senators only Alfie and Spezza can match that.
I would rather we did nothing at the deadline to be honest although if Murray is accurate that we will have 5 new players on the roster for next year we may have to move a couple of people.
Let this group win and lose together, Murray has already said we are benefiting from this group having played togther for so long, why not let that continue.
Unless the chance comes along to bring in something that we truly don't already have I say leave it alone.
Dont know what playoffs you were watching but let me get the stats, its gonna take awhile so be patient! :)
With all due respect, i really disagree with this. Add the Red Wings to the list of teams who have always won as a team.
hall gill and MA fleury would disagree with you here. Hal Gill was out of his mind when Pittsburgh won, as was Fleury. In fact, Detroit KILLS pittsburgh if it werent for Fleury. you can hardly say that Crosby (a no show in the last two rounds) and Malkin won the pens the cup that year.
Dustin Byfuglen (Sp?) was HUGE for the hawks, as were a couple guys named Patrick Sharp, Duncan keith, Brent Seabrook. John Madden was a killer too.
Hockey is a team game through and through.
I am sure thats what BM is thinking also, my first thought is I would rather see smith ok and back out for our next game but if he is out DaCosta would be worth another look now that he has spent some time in Bingo.
Time to see where we are in Bingo development before we trade for the type of players we may already have.
Just seeing how Smith was getting under the skin of certain SJ players and for him to be blindsided watch the reply Winchester didnt have to brace Smith was leaning forward Winchester's shoulder was dead on his head ...Non issue or not head shots are headshots you have too be held responsible for actions on the ice
Tookie don't even waste your time man. Those 2 or 3 players you mentioned per team obviously lead their respective teams in points, its obvious, but those teams still won by committee. Perfect examples of a team winning by committee over a team with high end talent and a lack of depth are the Bruins vs Canucks last year, Anaheim over Ottawa in 2006/2007.
Trading away Zibanejad Foligno and a first round pick for Ryan may make us better this season, but it sure as hell doesn't make us better 3 or more years from now.
Murray needs to continue to build this team through the draft, and not trade his high picks and prospects now. A few more drafts like the one we just had an this organization is going to be the deepest in the league. Let's not mess around with that for one player.
Well that depends whether or not I meant weather or whether and with this weather, who can tell?!
really Tookie? Last i remember, all GAME 7 goals against Detroit were scored by Max Talbot, yes the penguins long time fourth liner. For chicago, to a man people will tell you that Ladd, Dustin, Bolland, Versteeg and John Madden had just as much to do with it. Detroit we already know wins as a team. Anaheim could not have gone past without Pahlsson's line completely neutralizing spezza. Carolina was also by committee because they again had Ladd, Stillman, Brind Amour, Brett Hedican. seriously dude, Anaheim has actually been a yo-yo team ever since they let their ACTUAL CUP WINNERS GO. TELLS YOU A HELLUVA LOT ABOUT GETZLAF PERRY AND RYAN. ever since they let guys like Pahlsson, Moen, McDonald, Beauchemin, Huskins...and there was one more guy im forgetting his name, all those players made a big difference because Getzlaf and Perry were second year rookies.
Todd Marchant, Rob Niedermayer, Sean O'Donnell, Brad May, Chris Kunitz....infac t they actually had Pronger suspended for one game. and another surprising fact: Dustin Penner was in on a lot of assists, sens were not able to handle his big body next to Getzlaf and Perry. Yes, Anaheim would have been a powerhouse right now if they clung on to those guys, but they mismanaged and are not even a shell of the team they were. Leafs fans should see what Burke did to Anaheim lol....screwed over a strong club that ours truly Bryan Murray had built.
Carolina also had some crazy vets in Glenn Wesley. Mark Recchi and Doug Weight were there too.
I absolutely agree with this.
While it is still fairly early in the season, at this point my gut instinct preference would to leave this team almost entirely as is.
If we are to make a *splash* and Murray feels we have enough bodies and pieces and futures to bring someone in, I would rather take a big leap to get some top end talent in here that we intend on keeping for several years.
I'd rather see us make a big splash for a Bobby Ryan than throw away pieces in a less substantial deal for a Blake or a Hemsky. Besides I was sick of Hemsky talk way back when, remember that little ex #15 fiasco bullshit.
So if Smith was leaning forward that must mean Smith tried to hurt Winchester's shoulder with his face. Sounds stupid. Maybe Smith should have got a two minute penalty for facing or an illegal shot to the shoulder.
Winchester must be incredibly skillful or have ESP or something because he managed to hit Smith without once looking behind him to see where Smith was.
The momentum was all from Smith, the energy of the collision was 90% from Smith. Winchester didn't brace for impact or change his stride towards Smith or move his body directly towards Smith at any stage.
I get that you need to be responsible for your actions but Smith skated into Winchester. Smith got hurt because his head hit Winchester's shoulder - not the other way round, there is a big difference.
IMO, this is ALFIES last year and this organization owes it to him to do what it can to make a run. Trading even a few prospects won't hurt this team long term. 3 years from now has now become NOW !!! so let's stop this 3 years from now crap. Rebuild is over haha Beautiful job Bryan !
05-06 Carolina
Staal 28pts in 25 games
Ward was named MVP with a whopping 940 sv% and 2.00GAA
Stillman 26pts in 25 games
Next closest Brindamour 18 in 25...
06-07 Anaheim
Team with huge emphasis on Giguere...
07-08 Detroit
Zetterberg 27 in 22
Datsyuk 23 in 22
Next closest is Franzen with 18 in 16
08-09 Pittsburgh
Malkin 36 in 24
Crosby 31 in 24
Next closest Kunitz 14 in 24...
Fleury 901 sv% with a pedestrian 2.60 GAA
09-10 Chicago
Toews 29 in 22
Kane 28 in 22
Sharp 22 in 22
Next closest is Keith at 18 in 22...
10-11 Boston
Team with HUGE emphasis on Thomas.
That being said yes 3rd and 4th liners will score in the playoffs too but most teams rely on their big guns to win it and as I've shown you here, only 2 teams won it by TEAM committee which can be argued that the goalies won them the Cup.
In the spirit of full disclosure I want you to know that I thumbed down your comment because you have a better fantasy team than I do.
Out of Pageau, Stone, Noesen, Puempel, Zibanejad, Prince, Peterssen, Silfverberg, Sorensen we only have room for 2 or 3 in the next 3-4 years. The rest are trade bait, now to figure out which are trade bait, thats the problem.
your argument holds no water. I can show you a list of every stanley cup winner's top three point scorers - but what would that prove? you are discrediting the efforts and contributions of every other player outside of the top point producers and/or the goalie. Box scores tell 5% of the story.
well Tookie, we have scoring (3rd in league scoring) and we have the hot goalie right now. so maybe we will win the cup this year without trading for Ryan, and if such a thing happens - not that I am predicting it does - I hope you would take it for what it would be - a team win and not a win without your buddy Bobby Ryan.
yea, alfie, spezza and heatley were tops in playoff scoring when they met Anaheim in the Cup Finals.....gues s who won?.
One thing I wanted to point out from last nights game though, did anyone else not find themselves screaming at the TV with some of those penalties?!?
Neil for "charging"
Cowan for "illegal hit to the head"
I hope BM/PM officially complained. Absolutely BUSHLEAGUE!
I hope Zach Attack and Kaspars get better and it's not too serious!!!!
Go Sens Go!!
Bring on the Ducks!!!
If we do win the Cup, which I'm not saying we will, it wont be beacuse of our 3rd and 4th liners...
Your acting like a child, I can easily do the same for teams led by their best players beat out a TEAM team's game but I wont cuz your just dragging on to prove your invalid points.
True, but I'd really hate to lose Zibanejad, Silfverberg or Pageau (I just have a really good feeling about that kid). And if we can get anything for Sorensen, great. I thought he looked good during the development camp this summer, but his play must have seriously fallen off. He went from Skelleftea, to their junior (U20) team, to being on loan to Bora, which isn't a SEL team. It's a lower league.
I used to think most people who posted on this site were fairly knowledgeable.
Trade for Ryan Whitney & Nabokov? WHAT ARE YOU GUYS SNORTING?
And I gave yours a thumbs up for honesty.
give yourself a shake tookie, the whole league knows that depth wins cups not top heavy talent. and the sens have the organizational experience to know that too. Why are the penguins a contender year in year out (well the ones they are fully healthy), because of their depth down the middle. the similar can be said about other top contenders. its depth that wins it. just look at vancouver, they lost yet their depth is astounding, all their lines can score goals at will. and your whole point about where those prospects will fit. well let me inform you that not every prospect makes the team instantly, most require time in the AHL, and that will be true for the majority of sens prospects. so ridiculous, after years of Muckler destroying team depth we get cronies like you calling for the same thing to be done again? its almost heretical and very very Brian Burke like.
During the broadcast against the Sharks, Denis Potvin brought up a conversation he had with Murray about Petersson.
Potvin said that Murray told him that:
"Petersson will be Spezza's right winger for the next ten years."
@ Tookie and hq8,
Like both options , but would not give Zibanejad or Stone
Also would give Condra, Foligno, and 1st rounder for Ryan.
Or simply stand pat, and not trade.
They said that during the game last night too.
I'm on the side of No to Hemsky. He has talent and tons of it, but lately just can't make a full season. Keep using from within and let our guys get the experience. You can see after last night, over the course of time the bumps and bruises will catch up with us. So it's important to have some extra guys, but I'd rather see us call those guys up from Bingo, if and when we can. If we do pick up someone, it would have to come cheap and the only way that happens is if it's a vet who's in a contract year. And that vet can't mess with this teams chemistry.
Hope Smith comes out of that debacle ok, you can tell it wasn't intentional. If he misses any major length of time, we will have a few issues because he's been a work horse for this team, even if he's been in a so called scoring slump.
Bring on Anaheim, should be a good battle. Seems we are playing a lot of teams who are hot, or just starting to get hot. Should be a good test. Go Sens Go!!!
all that means is that Bobby Ryan will be playing alongside Turris.
We don't need a second line centre, but I seem to remember him slotting into LW positions when needed too. Always liked his fast aggressive game when he was a senator. Killed penalties for us too.
He'd be a committment beyond this season obviously, but seeing him return to the Sens has a nice fuzzy feel to it. 29 years old, still fits into our core going forward. 3.7 mill ain't that bad. Besides this year hes been pretty solid around the 20-25 goal mark in his career (for the most part). Has a good 2-way game, would probably fit nicely into Mac's system. And you know he wouldn't shake up the dressing room much being a former Senator. I think the Vets would give him a warm welcome.
Hmmm....
I slowed it down on the PVR and Winchester def turned his shoulder down and when he hit him..
Winchesters knee comes up before he even makes contact with Smith ..
Winchester is on the red dot as Smith is cutting up ice there is no way in hell he didnt see Smith ...
My only fear is that the Sens get plagued with injuries right before the trade deadline and Murray goes out and does something stupid to salvage some playoff time.
LOL Potvin has no idea whats going on with this team, he is by far the worst colour commentator in Sens history.
I thought about that view too, but I dont have a PVR and didnt get to see the other angle of the reply. Sharks broadcast is the shittiest one in the league probably, they dont show any replays. they only showed the hit from winchester's behind angle. would have liked to see it from all the way around. hopefully the league looks at it. Smith was red hot to start the game yesterday, had a beauty of a scoring chance in the first which burned Dan Boyle and Brent Burns pretty bad. Sens need him, hopefully he is back very very soon.
Let me put it to you in simpler terms...Smith hit Winchester with his face...
Amen brother, Potvin always sounds like he's been mixing medication with that bottle of scotch he keeps under the announcers booth. Just plain terrible.
Not to mention he is the biggest Sens Homer out there, it just looks really bad when you have a homerish commentator calling your games...
I'm glad Rogers/Sportsne t plays the majority of games so us Ottawa folk can watch them but you will never ever see Potvin anywhere outside of there (in Canada at least). Sportsnet has the biggest crop of loser analysts and commentators out there....
I really miss Garry Galley. He was great
Agreed 100%, those were the days! :)
That would completely go against what Gauthier said in his earlier interview of getting bigger and more physical players...lol
What a loser Organization, they're fans hang on to past glory which most of them were not even alive to witness. Hell I'm french and this boner over having a french coach and french players is just plain stupid, too much pride in the way, need to clean house!!
Secondly, potvin is the man. I like his insight and stories. I know there are a few here that dislike him, but when it's only a few, he must be doing a good job. I must say, I liked galley too.
i have a serious distaste for habs fans....especia lly the fresh new ones. TSN has a clip on their website which has a collection of Habs fans calling into TSN Habs radio. One guy says to just trade Carey Price. lol i wish he was the Habs GM lmao.
i wouldnt do that because i am pretty sure it knocks off a year from his ELC
Just do the opposite of anything Tookie says,
here are some comments by Tookie, and I paraphrase;
- this team will be bottom 5 for the next 3 years
- be a lottery team for the next 3 years
- Fail for Nail
- Sens have too many 3rd 4th liners
- No love for Anderson, Condra, Greening, Smith
- No scoring on this team (Alfie too old)
- will lose the next 5 of 6 (a couple of times this year)
and my personal favorite
- Sens WILL NOT make the playoffs this year
- and I cannot wait to collect on our friendlY wager on this one
And I am sure I have missed a few more
So basically do the opposite of what Tookie says, and we should go all the way to the cup :)
Sorry TookS couldn't resist
GO SENS GO!!!! (and do not listen to Tookie!)
Come on now ... you sound like HABS fans , and habs fans are fucken loosers cause they have a loosing team , and a looser of a fan base ... we are not like that , we stand by our team ...for wins or for losses ....
Go sens GOOOOOOO
i like that. Super-Defensema n.
Im pretty sure he also thought montreal would be in the top teams ... maybe even with a chance at the CUP ;)
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your the talk of the town pookie fookie , gotta be happy for something in life .... this is your reason ;)
thanks for amusing us with your posts
Another good game by the Sens, the sharks seemed to fold after Turris got the tying goal. Hopefully Smith is okay this team needs him.
That shit's farkin clever Chirp. You just Mind F*cked me.
The Senators hit 60-point plateau with win in San Jose last night. They hit 60 points on March 17th last season.
Nice!
again I did not know too much, his numbers were not great, worried about his sitting out attitude etc.
But by god this guy is for real.
10 and 2 since he is in the lineup, solidifies second line, good shot, full 200ft game, missed training camp, all this and he is our youngest forward on the team... the sky is the limit,
Anderson is exactly what most of us thought he would be, a winner!!!
No to Hemsky, not tough enough for the regular season let alone the post season,
Ryan Smyth, is interesting at the right price, now he is a playoff performer, who could add some key goals.
The answer is we've never really had a legit 2LC. Bonk, Vermette, Fisher were all close, but we've never really had a threatening 2LC in our modern history.
Agreed about Smith. When you don't see a hit coming like that, it really whips you back. Must be a concussion.
I have a world of respect for Ryan Smyth but his heart is in Edmonton. Playoff warrior or not it would seem real douchey to acquire him and them have him run back to Edmonton the first chance he got.
*shrugs*
And I would like to chime in on the Winchester HIT,
This is the NHL, and most these guys have eyes in the back of their head, I really question these type of collisions, and cannot help but think that if Winchester really wanted to he could have softened the collision,
he was the one who should have seen the collision coming, and IMO, lowered the shoulder as opposed to trying to miss it,
I do agree with you, but I truly believe he is a warrior, that would welcome another shot at the cup, and then going back home to retire... I have no worries that he would come in, fit in, and bust his nuts, trying to win Ottawa a cup,
McKenna seems to be outplaying him right now, and he seems to be struggling most of this year.
Anyone know what is going on with Lehner and his game?
A little bit of a concern, in a world of positives right now
So not only does he know what it takes to get to the finals, I bet that he would die to get back there just like Spezza, Alfie, Philips and Gonchar this year.
And regarding Lehner, what makes you think he will ever be Ottawa's #1 goalie. Anderson is only 30 years old, has three more years left on his contract after this year and if he really is this fucking good why would Ottawa not resign him when he's 34.
Seriously, if there's one position in the NHL where there will always be plenty to choose from its the goalie position.
If Ottawa does finish in the top 8 in the league this year, we'll be picking between 20-30th overall, so much for any top forwards or defence, so if people are so bent on goalies then simply pick the best available goalie in this years draft.
good point :)
Wow, only asked a simple question regarding our future #1 goalie, did not expect anyone to go from future #1, to
"forget Lehner, he will not be our number one for the next 6 years, and we better draft another one this year"
Not sure but after winnnig the Calder Cup and the best playoff performer last year, I am not that quick to give up on him,
albeit you are 100% accurate on Anderson, he is for real.
the biggest issue is that bingo has been gutted. 6/7 where promoted , Derek smith signed with Calgary, the captain signed elswhere and Ryan Potulny was not resigned, despite being one of the top performers. Then factor in how long we kept Da costa at the start of the season. Promoted yet another player in Daugavins, and now Peterson /Borowiecki .
As an aside BM said that Borowiecky was ready in training camp but with our logjamm on D was sent down.
he may get less starts than Mckenna but the team is Last in the east. Bingo was absolutely gutted! I for one will not blame Lehner. with Noeson, Puemple, Pageau , and others joining next year along with a singing or two over the summer Look to Lehner to be #1 next year and for a better product to be on the ice.
He's had a couple of injuries this year. He has garbage D in front of him down here. There are people who I don't agree with think he has mailed it in this year knowing he is the backup in Ottawa regardless next year.
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Seriously, if there's one position in the NHL where there will always be plenty to choose from its the goalie position.
What?
I don't think my mind can even begin to comprehend that statement
Petersson Spezza Michalek
Greening Turris Alfie
Condra DaCosta Butler
Foligno Konopka Neil
Have you ever seen this guy speak or play?
He basically defines passion be it positive or negative it's there.
remember His dad was Lunqvuist's goalie coach, and an insane fuck. Who need I remind you rigged a tennis machine to launch FROZEN PUCKS at his teenaged son.
ryan potulny
Lehner will be the goalie, but he will be worked into it the proper way - similar to Rask in Boston. Rask is a world beater as it is right now, but he is still not the anointed #1, which means that if Thomas catches fire, its Thomas who occupies. Basically its always Thomas's job to lose. Similarly, it will be Anderson's job to lose once Lehner starts playing more regularly and starts to realize his potential. Don't forget Lehner has already gone through the winning grind of the Calder Cup and come out on top. The experience from winning the Calder last year is paying dividends through guys like Condra, Cowen, Smith, Greening, Daugavins. These guys have the taste fresh in their mouths and im sure its motivating them on the big club.
I remember when our
first line was Arvedson-White-Alfreddson
Second line was Hossa-Bonk-Havlat
Third line was Schaefer-Fisher-Niel
I thought that for the that time, we had a legit 1LC and 2LC, and a damn good 3LC.
Then we had Spezza, Smolinski, Yashin, Comrie. All were either 1st or 2nd Line Centre for our team.
I had wondered that myself, Lehner hasn't performed the way Bingo was hoping. However, we are basing his expected performance (which we all know isn't good this season, 6 13 1) after an amazing playoff and Calder Cup win last season. In last years regular season he had 10 W's, 8 L's and 2 OTL's but they also had a pretty stacked team in front of him. This season, Bingo has lost a few key pieces, moving on to other teams or to the Sens. I'd like to see them go back to Lehner for a good stretch prior to the end of the season, incase they want to bring him up to the big club for the playoffs, if/when we make it. Not wishing or expecting anything to happen to Anderson, but I mentioned this before. Wouldn't it be something else if Lehner had to fill in for Anderson and carried the Sens all the way, just like he did in Bingo last year?? Now that would be something for the history books!!! Ok, getting ahead of myself, just throwing it out there. Ahem... now back to work.
Go Sens Go!!!
God I hope that doesn't happen, Only one goalie has done that and been successful .
Cam Ward
Leighton, Conklin, Boucher.
just off the top of my head too busy to research but I know there are more
i thought it was more of one of those incidental contacts you are just not braced for and your body gets shaken up. Now mind you the max. impact was his shoulder to head area so the shake-up would have been significant. Personally I dont think its a concussion, their detection techniques are too good these days to not let that out already. Its probably some UBI and they are taking the precaution. He got busted up in the past few games too so probably a further aggravation of some previous minor injury.
that and the fact that all my habs's fan co-workers have pretty much written off their own hockey season.
great time of year to be a Sens fan indeed....
What part of I said I didn't agree with it didn't you understand? Yes being 8th year season ticket holder here I have caught a game or 2 of his.
So let's stop finiding what's wrong with us and enjoy it right now. Seriously.
I would think:
Petersson Spezza Greening
Michalek Turris Alfie
For the top 2. Not sure if the wingers are all right, but I'm sure someone will let me know.
Interesting that on this site:
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/teams/depth-chart/OTT
Turris is ABOVE Spezza on the depth chart
That chart is broken.
very well but only the brodeur's and roy's truly dominate at every level. last year up until the playoffs Lehner was hated, but took the team from 0-3 to the calder cup. Before that was considered one of the top goalies in the ohl where he played a single season on a subpar team
But before you state he's mailing it in assume everyone on this board is from Ottawa, and have only heard and seen his success's . I myself live in Potsdam new york. Went to a wedding recently in Wilkes-Barre and managed to catch a game on the way down. I thought he looked great!
then again I haven't been a season ticket holder for 8 years so what do I know?
My 2 cents on the trade deadline: Really hope Murray doesn't mortgage the future for a Bobby Ryan or Ales Hemsky. I would love to see us pluck Ray Whitney out of Phoenix. Guy can still play, he's 39, UFA at seasons end and a LW. I think we could get him relatively cheap.
Wow, even when we win a shitload of games, and Tookie even admits how awesome the Sens are, how he was wrong (manning up like he should), you guys still rag on him?
Grow up or stop posting cause it's really fucking childish....I don't even know Tookie but at least he's one of the only grown ups on here....Yeesh.. ..
I'd rather knock a year off his ELC than trade him for some playoff rental!
What an awesome game for Anderson and the team. I think Anderson is showing he may actually belong in that 2nd tier of goalies right behind the elite 5. The tier that seems to take a month or two at the start of every season to get their legs under them and then can carry a team through the 2nd half. I can only hope this continues for the rest of the season.
How many more games is it going to take till we start referring to Turris as our 1B center instead of 2nd line center! This kid is amazing, has great game sense and enough grit to not get pushed around.
It's great that we are all seeing the depth and skill that BM has put together here, and with every win against an elite team I get a bit closer to dreaming about a run for the cup ... still too early, but it's getting close!
GO SENS GO!!!
I was definitely in the wait and see camp on the Turris trade but his play is certainly convincing a lot of people to forget what was given up to get him.
I have a friend who works for the sens who says that every time she sees Turris he's walking around with a big smile on his face (that could be because my friend is pretty hot now I think about it). Turris seems excited to be in a hockey market with a passionate fan base and a coach that let's him play.
I do think the labels whether its 1B centre or 2A or whatever aren't particularly helpful though and can be counter productive. We struggled with Fisher because we couldn't pigeonhole him effectively - i say let Turris play aned flourish in the top 6. I couldn't care less what we call him.
Tortorella and McLellan to coach Team Alfie at ASG.
Julien and staff to coach Team Big Z.
I can just see Torts now yelling at his players! lol
Show pics of your "hot" friend, and we'll tell you if Turris is all smiles because of her.
Otherwise, I think you're lying to us. Show us evidence of this "Hot" friend.
I certainly hope that Spezza does not play against the Getzlaf line.. Petersson would be crushed by Getzlaf, Perry or Ryan....
I certainly hope Zack is okay.
Don't like the injuries happening.. but at least it is before the All-Star break. I just hope no more injuries tomorrow. Those Ducks are big and mean.
I'm on the bandwagon as a big NO for Hemsky. He is Havlat 2.0 -- lots of skill but gets injured easily.
Ducks are not trading Ryan...
I say IF they are healthy... Greening, Smith, Condra, and the rest of the Bingo boys are the kind of players you need going into the playoffs.. They have the experience of the Calder Cup run.. Just let the players that are now with the team.. run with it. Murray did his trade to get Turris.. which has turned into a great trade so far.
I agree, if Turris can make people forget about Rundblad (possibly our best prospect at the time), imagine who Ryan would make you forget (Zib, Stone, Foligno, Greening, etc...). Bobby Ryan is a much better player than Turris.
I know it wont happen tho.
Tookie... those 3rd or 4th liners could be the key to a playoff run. Opposing teams need to be concerned with checking the top 6 players... if the other lines can score.. it takes a lot of pressure off those top 2 lines..
Rumour is Vermette could be had at the trade deadline. He is well liked by many Sens players and could be a good pick up.
What do you think?
Yes a picture of a hot woman who could be anyone is BOUND to convince you all.
Of course, he's just 21 so who knows in a couple of years if they end up as 1A/1B - but not just yet.
I just saw the replay... looks like it was a shoulder hit to me.. but his head flew back quite a bit... I'm betting a concussion.. and I hope he is back after the All-Star break.
So Anaheim bringing in the 'goons'?
Veremette was a good team player but that contract is nasty. Way too much for what he brings to the table.
And now some not so good news as Craig Anderson has left practice early. Dean Brown suggests it's nothing to worry about. Have to wait until after for a full update.
That may be true for 3-4 games out of 20+, but your stars must carry you to win the Cup.
Side note ...Dreger is saying Niklas Grossman could be on the block 26 years old 6'4 220 solid dmen shoots Left would be a solid pick up from Dallas
Not trying to pigeon hole him, just saying he's a stud in the making. Great trade! .. Rundblad who? haha
Turris will only get better (scary good, right?)
I don't think the Murray GM's are related. Grossman would be a solid pickup if Dallas is out of the playoff picture.
Now that does scare the crap out of me... Do they recall Lehner?
Would definitely be worth a look for sure!
I dont think he will be scary good, I think your seeing the extent of what he can do, and remember he has Alfie on his line, that helps TREMENDOUSLY. When Alfie retires I wont be surprised if Turris dips in production a bit. But he's doing more than enough to be our 2C of the future.
Yes Alfie helps a lot, but what about that other winger on that line that you said would put up 4th liner points? He's a pretty damn good utility player huh?
Alfie will always be Alfie, you can't replace that but we will replace him with someone of great talent. Condra will be replaced too, but you can put him anywhere.
I actually think we sold Rundblad at one of the higher values he'll reach. I don't see a top 2 dman in him. I think this will turn out to be a steal of a trade, but I'm hopeful for Rundblad that he can learn the NHL game in time. Just glad we're not desperately waiting for it to happen anymore.
Quoting Tookie19:
I don't think we're seeing the extent of what Turris can do. He's 22 years old, is that when Spezza peaked? This kid is only going to get better, even with Alfie retired.
Reminds me of a thread a few years back when both Vermette and Kelly were going through big scoring slumps with the Sens, went something like this:
What would happen if Kelly and Vermette were on a 2 on 0 breakaway:
a) Vermette would keep the puck, shoot and miss the net
b) Vermette would pass to Kelly who would shoot wide/left/right of the net
b) Vermette would pass to Kelly who would try to one-time it, miss the puck altogether and slide into the boards;
c) Vermette would trip and slide into Kelly and both would wind up in the net (without the puck)
Reminds me of a thread a few years back when both Vermette and Kelly were going through big scoring slumps with the Sens, went something like this:
What would happen if Kelly and Vermette were on a 2 on 0 breakaway:
a) Vermette would keep the puck, shoot and miss the net
b) Vermette would pass to Kelly who would shoot wide/left/right of the net
c) Vermette would pass to Kelly who would try to one-time it, miss the puck altogether and slide into the boards;
d) Vermette would trip and slide into Kelly and both would wind up in the net (without the puck)
Apparently, both Smith and Daug were fine at practice and should play tomorrow as per Dean Brown.
I'd like to see Peterssen play for the Daug tomorrow anyways.
For the "Status Quo" fans, these auditions, the trade offers, the posturing is all about one more FORWARD...it's a Stanley Cup run tradition...it' s good carma...it's Butch Goring!
Now all we need is Tookie and fans of his ilk to admit they are watching an Eastern Conference Powerhouse and we are off the playoffs...
Mikael Samuelsson 12 games 7 points
If either guy (Daug or Smitty) isn't 100% I would expect that they get the day off to rest their "bumps and bruises".
Typically when you fly an AHL guy out in a rush you get him a game (unless you're in full "win now" mode - which we are not since the rebuild is still the only focus).
I think we need Carks against the Ducks.
Boro did great for his first game and can mabye suit up Monday against LA (I hope to be at that game).
Normally I'd say yes but it's boudreau now behind the bench. Keep Carks for LA. Each time they play each other it's a brawl fest.
i'm a student in Montreal, and i know there's a bar, maybe Peel Pub that gives out a shot/drink (not sure on the specifics) every time the Habs score.
They may be "free" but you pay for those Peel Pub shots eventually.
ridiculous..people need to check themselves here. let this team do what its doing. right now more than half the league wishes it could pull of what ottawa is pulling off.
number of goals so far: 0
Free shots given: 0
Harsh but funny
I think it was on the pre/post-game show vs Toronto
i agree but if we are ``dumping'' guys like zibby, foligno and a 1round pick, might as well go for rick nash but that another topic.
Post a picture of you and her holding a sign that reads "CARLOSwSPECR1 made me do it"
Completly agree.
I enjoy Tookie and his sometimes off the wall comments. He has alot of insight into the game.
We've got our PMD's/PP QB's already (Karlsson/Kuba/ Gonchar) and one of the highest scoring offenses in the league- our issue thus far has been keeping pucks out of the net. Unfortunately I don't think Carkner/Lee will do it if we do plan to compete, and not just participate, in the playoffs.
Grossman would be a solid pickup for sure. Not sure what the asking price may be (Lee/Regin + 4th?). Other options could include:
- Joni Pitkanen (CAR)- asking price may be too high + injury concerns
- Eric Brewer (TB)- has been decent with the Bolts this year, but lack of speed may not help
- Tom Gilbert/Andy Sutton (EDM)- don't see much of them in the East but Gilbert is a fairly solid bottom pairing D-man and we know what Sutton brings
- Hal Gill (MTL)- did great work for the Pens during their run(s) but a) not an ideal trading partner in MTL and b) has lost a few steps (if he ever had many to begin with)
A-Train or Henrik Tallinder would be ideal for the role but I don't see New Jersey parting with them while they fight for playoff positioning.
Under the headline story, of Quebec City building a $400 million NHL arena, was this quote from a poster:
Question.. How does one build a first class "NHL" arena,
but have no team ??
Answer.... ACC lol
This team is going places in the next 3 years.
Fun team to watch, love how they're proving the "experts" wrong with every win
Go Sens Go!
A minor league D and a 4th is somewhere close to what I think BM would be ok moving for a depth forward. Now we know the type of player you can get for that price.
And why is Foligno playing 4th line?
why's you nose out of joint?
I am taking a jab at Tookie, b/c he deserves it after all of his predictions on the failing Sens
And speaking of childish stop the F*%king cursing
Where are you getting this info from, on line combinations ??
Do you know if Auld is starting in goal ??
I think the comment was my line up above of what I would like to see from a developmental standpoint of where Petersson and DaCosta are.
Gotta feeling that Anderson will not start, and that Auld
will be the starter.
Also think that Borowiecki and Petersson will play !
Depends on your definition of 'scary good', but in any case, it couldn't seem any more clear to me that you're wrong (it just seems obvious). Doesn't even look like Turris has fully matured yet physically, so that alone will mean he'll get better as he puts on a little more muscle.
His play with and without the puck has been exceptional and I don't see why he can't continue to improve, maybe start shooting/gettin g into shooting position more.
Regardless of what we thought when the season started, it's now our most glaring weakness. An injury to Michalek, Spezza, Alfie or Karlsson would be horrible, but Anderson getting injured would be an unmitigated disaster.
Any links to help a Sens fan watch the game?
I want to see that as well. Also, does anyone have the video of Gonchar getting so mad that he shook someone's head (I think it was against Philly)with both his hands? I've been looking all over
Tookie, please add this to the list of things you will have to admit being wrong on in the future. Turris will be much more then you imagine. He's the one often creating the chances for himself and his linemates and is always in the middle of the play. His chemistry with Alfie is nice, but I think he's rejuvenated Alfie and not the other way around.
You really need to get excited about the team you claim to cheer for, because even with such a good year you're still fighting reality.