Forty games down, forty two to go. When the Ottawa Senators host the Tampa Bay Lightning on Thursday night, they will officially hit the halfway point of their schedule.
And obviously with that much hockey left to be played, a whole lot can change. But as the Sens hit the turn, fans should take some time to sit back and appreciate the ride this team has taken us on to date.
Written off by many as a bottom feeder before the first puck dropped, not a whole lot was expected from this team heading into 2011. A rebuilding group full of young and inexperienced players, experts assumed the Sens would endure significant growing pains. Ugly home ice losses to the Avalanche and Flyers in mid-October seemed to be a painful glimpse of what was to come.
But Paul MacLean’s group persevered. Rather than dwell on those loses, the Sens bounced back, reeling off six straight wins and playing themselves back into the mix in the Eastern Conference.
Bouncing back and dealing with adversity has become second nature under MacLean’s guidance as third period rallies and dramatic wins have become the norm in Ottawa. The Senators lead the NHL with five wins when trailing after 40 minutes. I’ve said this before but this is a team that believes in the system they are playing particularly when they get down in a hockey game.
The Senators’ best players have been just that.
Jason Spezza has tallied an impressive 40 points to lead the club but is also contributing in other parts of the game. He leads the league in faceoffs taken (863) and is among the league leaders, winning 54.6% of the time, including 20 of 24 last night. Erik Karlsson has enjoyed a breakout season and leads all defenceman in scoring with 37 points and is 6th in the NHL in shots with 142. His dazzling skating ability and unparalleled confidence with the puck is worth the price of admission. Milan Michalek is 7th in the NHL with 19 goals and was leading the league until a concussion sidelined him in late December.
The veterans have led by example.
If the Sens were going to enjoy a bounce back season, they needed to see drastic improvement from Sergei Gonchar, Filip Kuba and Chris Phillips. Gonchar has been a calming influence on the back end, contributing on the power play and playing important minutes in all situations. Kuba and Phillips have pulled a complete 180 and have been a stabilizing force on a fairly young Senators blueline. While his numbers may not be where he wants them, Craig Anderson has given the Sens something they have lacked in seasons past- a consistent and reliable number one goaltender. Anderson is 4th in Wins with 18.
Role players understand where they fit in and are contributing on a nightly basis.
Players like Zack Smith (11 goals) and Erik Condra (15 points) are contributing on the offensive end but have also been extremely reliable in penalty killing situations and can take a shift at any point in a hockey game. Colin Greening and Nick Foligno have combined for 19 goals and are providing the team with much needed secondary scoring. Rookie Jared Cowen has looked like a ten year vet at times, logging more than 30 minutes in a game on a couple of occasions.
And all of them are following the Captain.
In a season that some believed might be his last, Daniel Alfredsson looks rejuvenated and has been a key piece in the Sens offence. Alfie has 28 points in 34 games and with back to back overtime winners on home ice, has captured the imagination of the fan base and the city.
When Paul MacLean took the reigns of this hockey club, he talked about making sure the Sens get a little bit better each day and as the calendar flips to 2012, that is exactly what this team has been able to do. The Senators currently sit 6th in the Eastern Conference with a record of 20-15-5 and trail the 5th place Penguins by a single point.
The fact is the Ottawa Senators have already proven a lot of people wrong through the first half of the season and really given this fan base something to be excited about. There is a certain "magic" around the Senators this year and I don't know about you, but I haven't had this much fun watching Sens hockey in a long, long time.
Will it last? Who knows. But considering the fight and level of determination this team has shown through the first half, would you bet against them?
- The Sens have a full day off today and will return to the practice ice tomorrow at 11:00 AM. Should have an update on the injured Senators at that point in time. The list of walking wounded now includes Sergei Gonchar and Chris Phillips (upper-body). Should also get some news on Jesse Winchester and Peter Regin at that point in time.
- Short notice but if any of you have spare time at lunch, head down to City Hall where the mayor is holding a rally to encourage people to vote for the five Sens on the NHL All Star Ballot. The indoor event kicks of 12:00 PM. All Star voting closes in a couple days so make sure your voice is heard. Go here to cast your ballot.
Spezza recently jumped Crosby and now sits third. Not positive on this but if one of the starters can not play, I don't believe they use votes to determine a replacement. Believe the league would select the alternate.
1)Will we make the playoffs?
2)Will we get a second 1st rounder again this year?
3)Will BM trade for another highly touted prospect who just didn't fit in with previous team?
4)Will Spezza ever get a legit superstar winger again?
5)Will BM make any attemtps in aquiring big name UFA/RFA's Parise,Webber,Suter,Perron?
6)If we do make playoffs and fall out of top 15 in draft, will BM draft yet another 2nd/3rd line winger/defencem an or will we use it to trade and aquire a legit 1st line F or D
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=608851
here's the updated page... I scrolled around yesterday cause I was trying to find it to..
found it on this page if u scroll down
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=608900
Patrick Wiercioch has another appointment with Boston specialist soon. "This is more long-term than short-term," Kleinendorst said. #BSens
I'm a huge Sens fan, but I find this blog to be obnoxious and embarrassing, along with pointless.
You're making Leafs and Habs fans look good.
You forgot to mention you're also a dick.
Instead of bleating on why don't you point out the parts of the blog that you disagree with. Virtually everything that is in the blog is accurate, the rest is the opinion of an optimist.
Whilst it is nothing more than a feel good piece there is merit in that and it does no harm. I think we should be proud of the fact that we are much better than most people thought.
If you can't bother to add anything to the conversation I suggest you fuck off and leave the site to those who actually enjoy coming here and chatting about the sens (for better for worse).
If you decide to leave, please do so with the knowledge that your insightful contributions will be sorely missed.
You need a hug.
That part of this blog that I disagree with is the fact that it exists. The other part I don't like is that so many uninformed fans eat up everything that's written on here.
We have enough morons who've never played hockey covering the Sens in this city already. It's even worse when the writer not only knows nothing about hockey, but also refuses to evaluate the Sens objectively.
obnoxious ? really ?
did you at least like the price ?
Just exactly what is wrong with feeling good about where the Senators are at the moment?
It's very difficult to argue with the facts presented in this blog. It is likewise impossible to disagree with the concept that most people (fans, writers, TV journalists) had pegged the sens to finish in the bottom 3 and that most, if not all, of those people are surprised by where they currently sit.
I agree that chirp is generaly soft when it comes to criticism of the sens and is absolutely a glass half full blogger. So fucking what?
There is however plenty of objectivity to be found on this site and most of it is delivered in a far classier way than your hamfisted attempt which came across as completely obnoxious and embarrassing - which is ironic considering that seemed to be the very point you were trying to make against the writer in the first place.
Herp derp.
Welcome to the interwebs, where people are free to express their opinion through blogs, social media, and more.
Don't like? Press esc and move along.
If you don't like this site, why do you visit it? You coming to the site adds hits for advertisements and the site makes more money... This site is made by a fan for fans. If you don't like it, go away.
The rest of us appreciate the time SC puts in to the site and will continue to visit and join the conversation.
You were always soft and overrated.
You need a lady m'boy.
Go Sens!
I am still most excited for trade deadline ...please don't be buyers no matter what...and the off season to see what further magic we can pull.
Yes, they're playing much better hockey than expected, but there are 42 games left and things can change very quickly. What kind of fan base celebrates being in 6th on January 3rd?
Newsflash - if the teams behind Ottawa win their games in hand the Sens aren't even in a playoff spot anymore. Then what do we have, a mid-range draft pick and a wasted year.
My friend was just at city hall and they said that "Jim Watson was telling everyone to vote Alfie and Spezza, and he started a "Go Alfie" chant.
Not bad Mr. Mayor, noooot bad!
Let's put a All-Sens All-Star forward lineup on the ice, and VOTE TIM THOMAS for goalie - no matter if you like him or not, we don't want James Reimer in nets for us!!!!
It's called a year of development! The only one feeling like the year is wasted is you. If you can't enjoy some of the most exciting hockey this franchise has EVER provided, please go start a site for doomsday fans like yourself.
Wow.
Was not expecting that.
While this was definitely meant to be a positive post (After the last three wins, people should be feeling pretty good) I really don't think there is much in here that someone could disagree with.
I also acknowledge that there is plenty of hockey left to play and that things can change in a hurry. Was meant to be a "Why things are good so far" type of post.
Actually the newsflash is that even if the Sens do miss the playoffs and get a mid round pick, the experience that the young players are getting at this moment is advancing this team a whole lot faster than anyone, even the most optimistic fan could have hoped for. There are absolutely zero guarantees that this team would be farther ahead if they finished last and had a high pick a la the Oilers.
I don't see anyone writing that the playoffs are a sure thing, but all Sens fans should be excited by the way this team is playing, especially the way the young guys are performing.
Great, Tookie's back.
how is it bad to be happy where you are in current standings? what teams fans are unhappy that their team is in 6th halfway through? This is happening man, deal with it. what miserable bastard takes the time to participate on a sens fan site he hates? i feel sorry for you.
you must not have got that iphone you wanted for christmas
You sir, are nothing but a troll, on here to infuriate Sens fans. Are you laughing with glee as you type knowing how 'upset' some fans are here will be?
By the way, this will NOT be a wasted year if the Sens don't make the playoffs. This season was and is all about player development... making the playoffs will or would have been a big bonus.
Yes I am actually laughing as I see how upset people get.
I love your optimism. I believe you are the same person who repeatedly argued with me last year and the year before saying Clouston was a "great coach" and things would turn around.
For most games this team is fast up & down the ice ... forcing other teams to do the same.
By the 3rd period, the Sens 'young' legs keep going strong & do not tire. The other teams start to fade & that is when the Sens strike. All throughout training camp & pre-season the Sens had been skating hard every day... the 'plan' is working.
They can't yet compete with the elite teams but hopefully that will come in the next couple of years.
Screw Yakupov... how good would Ryan Murray look on the Sens blueline in the future. But, alas, he will probably go top 5...
Team Canada will be in very tough against that young Russian goaltender.. he has been nothing short of amazing in the games I have watched.
Go Canada... paybacks a bitch.
now thats a real positive newsflash and a positive fan :)
i just hope they start to clean up their defensive game a little bit and anderson just kicks it up one notch. the scoring is there, the active D is there, the D is good mostly, but whatever little bad there is needs to go. no reason why this team with its compete level can't go toe to toe with some of the more loaded teams. the one thing that i notice about the sens this year is that their gameplay has a very detroit style to it, they stick to the plan for a full 60 minutes with the good and the bad of the plan and i think thats why they still ooze confidence when trailing in games.
You sir, are nothing but a troll, on here to infuriate Sens fans. Are you laughing with glee as you type knowing how 'upset' some fans are here will be?
Yes I am actually laughing as I see how upset people get.
I love your optimism. I believe you are the same person who repeatedly argued with me last year and the year before saying Clouston was a "great coach" and things would turn around.
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Maybe I was one of those people that said it would work with Clouston..-- But it did not work -- so sue me....
Am I optimistic?... maybe.. but at the beginning of the season.. and probably into Nov/Dec... I really felt this team would not make the playoffs -- and I believe I stated as much...as they can't compete with the big teams. BUT that does not stop me from cheering them on...
Chirp... doesn't sound good on Weircoch...
200/65
200 feet, 65 minutes per night.
'Yes, they're playing much better hockey than expected, but there are 42 games left and things can change very quickly. What kind of fan base celebrates being in 6th on January 3rd?'
If I understand Chirp's post correctly, he said "And obviously with that much hockey left to be played, a whole lot can change. But as the Sens hit the turn, fans should take some time to sit back and appreciate the ride this team has taken us on to date."
You make an argument against Chirp's post, without any actual content, and then adopt Chirp's own point to support your argument. Stop the ride, I want to get off, I'm getting dizzy.
Definitely going to be an extended recovery period. The good news is we still keep hearing that a full recovery is expected.
Haha.. Nice one.
The only people laughing are laughing at you. You get so annoyed by a single website in the Internet? Wow...anger management might be a good idea? Seriously, what kind of douche goes to a FREE FAN SITE to complain about fans being fans, and the guy that PAYS getting a few perks along the way? If you're so jealous, start your own. Maybe some day you too could sit in the wisers box from time to time. Of course, you would need to pay the developers, the hosting company, and spend years developing a following, but that's what comes with the glory of being the facilitator of a free site.
The sens are exciting. You are not. Senschirp has class. You do not.
PS: have a feeling you are the same guy who was around last year calling out chirp over trades...right before he scooped the fisher trade and made you look like a complete ass. Is it really you?
You sir, are nothing but a troll, on here to infuriate Sens fans. Are you laughing with glee as you type knowing how 'upset' some fans are here will be?
Yes I am actually laughing as I see how upset people get.
I love your optimism. I believe you are the same person who repeatedly argued with me last year and the year before saying Clouston was a "great coach" and things would turn around.
So you've been coming to this site for years then? What kind of masochistic idiot are you? You're clearly not well dude. Seek help. (KidsHelpPhone. ca)
Some good questions, I was one of the few who thought at first going after Parise would be a good idea. But the more I look at what we are doing with the younger guys and how some of them are playing right now, Parise would be WAY to expensive, he's going to collect big time and the Devils will collect if they move him.
You make the process of organ grinding look good.
The worst type of people are the ones that spend their time critisizing the pointlessness of the actions of others. The fact is, if this site was useless, than being on here is first-degree uselessness, and your critique is therefore not only misguided, but also self-deflating.
You are a jerk-off to the highest degree, and I hope you step in dog shit before you put your foot in your mouth.
All the worst to you and your kin.
You sir, are nothing but a troll, on here to infuriate Sens fans. Are you laughing with glee as you type knowing how 'upset' some fans are here will be?
Yes I am actually laughing as I see how upset people get.
I love your optimism. I believe you are the same person who repeatedly argued with me last year and the year before saying Clouston was a "great coach" and things would turn around.
That is true statement!! ...But I have no problem in bashing moron fans of the Sens and trust me I with you on that there's alot of them here ...But Chirp just reports no need too take shots ...
People like Fail4Nail, tookie, Jannes, etc...are all upset that we are winning games and will end in the middle again. Their logic being, they want us to be the worse team in the league to get top 3 picks. Great in theory, but it doesn't work that way. Hell we all want top 3 picks here, but at what cost. If it was as simple as trading Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, etc... and being the worst team in the league, we'd for sure get top 3 pick, but what would we have left?
Also, if it was that simple, wouldn't every team in the league trade everything away when they realized they wouldn't win the cup fight for last place?
Not how its played folks. Unless you think that you're smarter than 30 professional GMs, as I don't see them doing this.
We're not rooting for a mid-range pick, we're showing our team appreciation for working hard.
Coming on here and simply stating: everyone here sucks and the sens are doing things wrong and you're all homers for being happy that they are doing better than expected...well ...that's not constructive at all.
I would gladly hear what Jannes, tookie, fail, have to hear on what they think we should be doing. Please, educated us homers, what should the sens organization be doing? should we be boo'ing them so they lose? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, coming on here just to stir the pot is a waste of time. Prove that you are a fan and not a troll by adding something constructive, even if its not what the majority want to hear.
The only thing I fear is if we become buyers and trade future for now at the deadline (which we wont do) I'll take a mid round pick if it means our current group is already a mid pack team.
Finally, take a look where we drafted Havlat, Hossa, volchenkov, meszaros...All players who helped push us from mid pack into contenders
"Did you know that"...Yost isn't in Ottawa, or even Canada? "Did you know that" Yost has likely never been to a Sens game? "Did you know that" Tookie, Laukannen, or whatever moniker you use - you are a leper on this site.
Stick to eating dirt, paying for sex, saving to get ribs removed so you can suck yourself off, and skating while your ankles touch the ice.
~Peluso
Just because of the link! I have no issue with people that prefer Yost over this site. Also have no issue with those that disagree with me. In fact, it can make for a more interesting comment section :)
This team is likely to either just make the playoffs, or will just miss them. While a high pick would be good, it probably isn't an option. Having finished 5th last in the league in 2010/11, finishing mid-pack is progress in a rebuild. I'm willing to be entertained during the process. Hopefully cap space will allow BM to add what he can't add by being crappy.
Chirp,
let Peluso jump off the bench and rain haymakers on this clown Janne !!! Name should really be Darcy &ucker!!!!
PELUSO!!!!!
Looking at upcoming games after Tampa:
Philly
Philly
Pitts
NYR
Whooo!! Good opportunity for the boys to prove themselves :)
I respected you in the past because you would take your position and then defend it with intelligence. In fact, you were in the top echelon of trolls, which is very rare.
Now that you are logging in as different names, I have to tell you that any respect you had is gone.
Personally, I won't read another post of yours again. I would be surprised if you had any audience after this little stunt - cry for attention.
Peluso:
YOU GO GUY! Awesome posts of late. Very rude and crude, but hilarious all the same.
To clarify, Janne and Tookie are SEPARATE posters. Or at least appear to be as far as I can tell.
Guessing Tookies "good" name was hijacked then.
Agreed. While Tookie and I don't always see eye to eye on hockey issues, he has always respected the site and has been a long time contributor.
well said Apostle!
You complain about fan bias but you ignore your own. That pretty much makes you an arrogant moron. I for one fully expected the Sens to be a lottery team this year just like you. However, I have always said that if somehow everything goes right I'd cheer them on whatever happens.
So what has happened this year in half a season:
1. Young players from Bingo contributing
2. Michalek scoring at 40 goal pace
3. Alfie returning to form
4. Karlsson getting even better
5. Cowen exploding onto the scene as a defensive beast
6. Kuba, Gonchar, and Phillips return to form
7. Winning a ton of close games
That is a ton of things going right, even the most pessimistic fan must admit they have a chance for playoff hockey.
Does anyone know what the lingering issue is? if any.. or just a follow-up for the terrible injury?
Does he finally break 40pts this year, or just another body part?
Seriously... I know he played a full 82 games last season (although, some might say he didn't show up till Dec – 6PTS in the first 25 & 28PTS in the final 57GP).
The kid is intense, and I would hate to see him injured; but the way he plays... I mean, he crashes the net pretty hard and isn’t made of steel. In that way, he reminds me a little of Fisher; like he’s playing bigger than his body can take (say, taking a point-blank slapper to the leg vs MTL). Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he should tone it down, but playing his game comes with its fair share of injuries.
To be continued...
Anyway… coming into the season, I felt like he hadn't cemented himself as a legit top-6 forward (I say legit top-6 since the Sens didn't have much else to work with - so a de facto top-6 would’ve been an appropriate label IMO). Granted, he was only 25 at the start of the year, but after that ‘08-'09 season I thought for sure he'd soon be scoring 40pts a year. Now, if he can continue his pace and amazing play, for sure I would say he’s finally reached his well-deserved top-6 forward status.
The guy’s been averaging about .398 PTS/G over his career, and has been steady around .4 PTS/G for the past 3 seasons. The way I see it, he either hits the 40pt mark this year or gets injured trying.
So – does he hit 40pts or does injury ruin his chance to top his 34pt best?
Also, IF the Sens make the playoffs, how do you think he'll handle the pressure of the playoffs (1G, 2PTS in 10GP)?
That's just it, "we have a chance", and I refuse to believe that all fans are biased towards their team. If anything, I find myself being harder on my team than any other team (out of fear of being disappointing I guess).
I just wish we didn't have so many games played more than other teams. I always rather being behind a few games and be in control of our future, than up ahead a few games and hope that others won't end up ahead. I usually is usually why I rather look at the Point% stat rather than Points alone. But this is not a common stat compared to just "team points" alone.
Looking at point%, we are about 5 ranks lower than we are now, but that changes nothing. We are still tightly in the race and have a chance of making the playoffs if we keep playing this way.
Whilst you may not often (or ever for most of you) agree with what Tookie says, the majority of the time he just provides his, albeit massively negative opinion, plus he is prepared to engage in debate and back up his points when countered.
The opinion that the sens are doomed this year is as valid an opinon as anybody else's. It's just looks like being wrong at this point in time.
This scism is what happens when everybody jumps on and tears somebody apart for having a different opinion. You can't al be short sighted to think that Tookie is the ONLY person out there with a negative opinion of this team.
Chirp is right he doesn't dump on the site and doesn't generally get into with other unless provoked. We need to cut the guy some slack for a while.
Janne on the other hand is just a shit stirrer with nothing to offer and is exactly the sort of poster who should be blocked.
I see the point of view of those who would rather finish 30th than 20th or 15th but I can't agree with them.
I am delighted that the current Ottawa Senators are proving me wrong and whilst I still believe they will eventually miss the playoffs I have loved watching them so far this year and anticpate that that will continue.
I would love them to continue to prove me wrong. I just think we are headed to a finish of somewhere between 9-11 in the East.
Regardless of where we finish though my support and love for this team will continue unabated.
Oops... didn't realize how much people disliked HB/Yost, or that people had respect for Tookie. Lesson learned: Don't hijack others monikers; monocles, on the other hand... yoink!
Cheer away for hard work but when hard work turns it into a mid level pick that might or might not work out ... Truth is we are not ready to challenge for the stanley cup I know shocking right and if we make the tourney is a 1st rd exit something too cheer about ? Can this team dance with Boston Pitt Philly etc ?
How does this help are team mid level picks ?
Does that push this rebuild forward or end it ?
Im not saying lose everygame what Im saying is make sure the future is bright !!! This team does so far a great coaching staff and solid young players like --(Stone Pumps Mika Silversurfer Lehner Noeson Prince ) We still need that "Star" maybe a trade maybe Free agency maybe the draft...
Props to the Coaching Staff they dont get alot credit but if you gave them more high end talent and skill this team can go back too playoffs every year and thats something too cheer about ....
There is no foundation to coming on a free site and ripping someone apart for no valid reason.
2012 - It is our year! GO SENS GO!
There is little to no financial incentive in getting kicked out of the playoffs in the 1st round, in fact the sens lose money if that happens.
This year is a rebuild year, the best way to be better next year is to either sit tight or move a couple of assets for picks and prospects at the deadline. This is what I expect Murray to do unless we magically go at a win % of 75 until march.
What this year has shown us is that we are a better team than most people thought and can probably shave off a year of the projected rebuild. With a good draft next year and a bit of luck with the current prospects we could be legitimately challenging again in 2013/14.
A 2 year rebuild before challenging once again is not out of the question for this organisation.
Honestly, no. I don't think we can compete with Boston, Pitts, Philly. But my point was: what would you change? Tell them to lose? Who would you realistically trade? for who?
We will not win the cup, we're not bad enough to end up in last...those are pretty much facts. Do you understand that me being happy about a win, is not what is making them win? being sad and whine about it won't change anything either.
We drafted Karlsson at 15, if we draft another Karlsson, I won't cry. The draft is funny, we're not going to get top pick, and the rest is unpredictable.
"...it's not about me proving anything. It's about me being a teammate and me being a guy for the team that wouldn't just stand, watch. And if some of my teammates is getting hurt or risk of getting hurt, I will be in there, and I will help them with all my heart. And that's just the way I am."
I can't wait until he's starring in Ottawa!
Care to explain Edmonton these days? How about the Islanders?
Ottawa: 45 Points, 6th in East
EDM: 35 points, 13th in the West
NYI: 32 Points, 14th in the East
PS: The Fail4Nail campaign has moved East down the 417.
Tookie likes to stir it up, and is a self proclaimed "hockey fan" not only a "Sens fan" which really tells us his allegiances may be elsewhere, however he has always respected this site and Chirps comment, even if he has opposed them.
This Janne character only attacked for attention...BTW where is Tookie with all these latest great wins in dramatic fashion?
@drive2thenet -- do you have the link for the interview?
First off, Foligno's first 4gp in the playoffs were in his rookie season, and he still managed to score a goal in that four game sweep against PIT. The next 6 playoff games came two season's ago, and again it was against PIT; so what, he only managed an assist. Those two playoff appearance definitely shouldn't be taken as him choking in the post-season. He's a great player, and I'm sure he'll find the back of the net while leading the Sens in future cup runs!
As to him scoring 40pts; I couldn't care less. The guy's a solid top-6 in my books regardless.
Also, Tookie is too smrt to be lumped together with that fool Janne (Simpson's reference, not a typo)!
I agree with about Craig Anderson. I really like Craig Anderson allot.
Also I really like Jared Cowan and Colin Greening and Erik Condra and Zack Smith.
Ok Homer,
I never said Foligno choked in the playoffs, I was just looking for thoughts on how he'd handle the pressure this time around. I think he's shown great improvement & maturity this year compared to last season.
Regarding the 40pts mark, I was only using it as a proxy to say the guys is well on his way to cementing his case as a top-6 forward.
Its a fine line between getting injured and forcing a key turnover or blocking a shot; I just hope Foligno can continue his big play, and doesn't end up breaking a leg like in that game againt MTL a few years back.
GO SENS
Talent is one thing.. number of Vets could be another.. but its all in where they play and the games you need too win
Islanders have pitt nj flyers rangers in there division
record 2-7
Oliers are 5-7 vs there own division
Oilers and Islanders cant hang in there own conference's Oilers are 12-15 vs west and vs East there 4-4
NYI are 8-15 vs East ..but vs West there 5-2
Ottawa vs West 5-4
Ottawa vs East 15-11
Shut the fuck up.
One word - painful
Why is he still so negative, and not satisfied at this young team's accomplishments ??
Glad that Chirp turfed the troll, who was shaming Tookie !!
Good for you Chirp !!!!!!!!!!!
Ive been around still reading your daily poor posts senior citzen ...
Im not negative at all!!! the team is winning delaying the rebuild for a year if your ok with that so am I !!
GO SENS GO!!!
Jane Laukenn is just mad because he/she is a Leafs fan who's been embarrassed with their recent slump :)
But I guess haters are gonna hate.
Keep up the good work Chirp! You know we all appreciate this site.
Go Sens Go!
Success this season solely because the guys that WON'T be here in two years: Major problem.
So far this year, the major reason for the success has been the entire team and the younger guys doing great (Karlsson, Cowen etc). So I have ZERO problem with drafting later based on that.
If we end up 8th because Kuba, Gonchar, Alfie etc carry us and we'd have been 15th without them, then that would be a problem.
It takes a little effort to find this site ,If you don't like it ...PISS OFF........
You are right in saying there are too many misinformed people
writing about OUR team and you are one of many who can only write negative crap about this team so again PISS OFF it's not the Sens or Chirps or our fault your team is either falling out of sight at Christmas or trashing a class guy like Randy Cunneyworth for not conforming to your elitist
ways ,go crawl back under your rock and allow us real fans to enjoy what little recognition this team has worked hard for since training camp
As far as this site goes I find Chirp consistently calls it like it really is every single day and does it for the love of the game not for money or popularity
Thanxs for your time Chirp and please don't buckle to these idiots,,keep it coming
Try this:
http://press.sn/z5x3oi
Hell ya it is...love the juniors tourney!
What your coments are painful to read!
Everybody DenisVial coments are painful to read and make no sense at all!
Haha I love this! Hilarious.
I love this kid! He's like Ralph Wiggum from the Simpsons. His next post will be "I know you are but what am I?" . Too funny SF19.
Nothing is bigger than Canada-Russia. I know we like to play up the Canada-USA rivalry but it will never be the same as Canada-Russia.
Hope Stone has another big game. Lets go Canada
Hey ShawnK,
Hope you are right about Mark Stone, and I will even say that he will score 2 more goals, and attain 9 in total.
Maybe next year along with Zbad..
I am not a kid. Maybe you are kid! You remind me of Ned Flanders from the Simpsons.
Stone put 2 on a platter for Strome (missed net) and Huberdeau (unreal save though he should have got it up high).
Really need the next goal now though. Lots of hockey left
Hope that in period 2, they stick to slowing down, and
hit the Russians cleanly, take away the puck from them,
and score 3 unanswered goals, to lead 3-2.
GO CANADA GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe you did exactly what I said you would! You are too funny kid. If you're not a kid, can I reccomend an ESL course or hooked on phonics?
What are you so upset about?
Most pundits and respectable hockey news providers had us pegged for 13-15th in our conference.
Foligno and Smith are having great seasons. Spezza and Karlsson have remained healthy and have produced well.
At the start of the season, people said, "Wait 5 or 6 games..."
After a few games, people said, "wait 25-20 games"
Well, we're half way through the season and we're competing for the playoffs in our development year, not to mention the comebacks and RIDICULOUSLY exciting hockey (what a crazy juxtaposition with last year!).
I'll give you Chirp is an optimist, but right now, there's reason to be. Sens fans should be pleased at our progress, even WITH half a season to play.
Jesus...
Oh and Snoopy Senior notice how Stone got benched when things got serious against real competition? Yeah that's because he can't even skate well enough to take a regular shift against the Russian junior team. Just imagine how much work he has to do to succeed at the NHL level. If his skating can make him a PP specialist in a game like this imagine how far he is from being a serious NHL player.
3 years in a row of absolute heartbreak at this tournament
i know we are all high on lehner but im just saying look at many other NHL team's prospect pool, they all have 2-5 goalies in depth. we only have lehner, its about time we draft 1-2 others. even if its in the 7th round but if you draft in the 7th round go to europe and find a hasek/rinne/hal ak etc.
If we are sellers, who goes and what do we get?
Honestly,in the beginning, I thought clouston was not bad...I still don't think cory was that bad. He didn't have enough experience. Maclean just seems to be better.
Oh and Snoopy Senior notice how Stone got benched when things got serious against real competition? Yeah that's because he can't even skate well enough
@ Tyrant,
He played well in all of the games, and will have a great
career in the NHL. His skating will improve, and though I
did not see 3rd period, Coach Hay benched him for another
player, who maybe was more intense.
Even a "superstar like Ovechkin" got benched, a few games ago by former Coach Boudreau !!
Amazing how you just love to pick on posters, when you want to show negativity !!
But, like Tookie, you guys are always nit-picking, and
look the other way, when someone accomplishes any feats
worthy of recognition !
You and Tookie,are great debators, but you also just
disappear, when you run out of replies !
Stone in the final few minutes must have taken at least 3 or 4 draws on the right faceoff circle in the Russian end.
@ thepez,
Thank you for clarifying the Stone situation !
Not exactly what Tyrant posted, in an argument on Stone's inability to properly skate, and glad you backed up your statement !
Thank you for clearing that up, I saw that too, but TyrantRor obviously wanted to use that skate issue as a benching to prove himself that Stone is not an NHLer.
Here's one for you YOU CAN all keep your FialingNail or any other Russians ans I will take Stone to the Stanley cup in 3 years... how do you feel about that? NailFailers?
You are too kind.
Zach Smith drafted in the 3 round 79 overall in 2008 as a 20 year old. Eric Condra drafted in the 7 round 211 overall in 2006 as a 20 year old. Colin Greening drafted in the 7th round 204 overall in 2005 as a 19 year old.
Seems to me that if any team can develop players it's the Sens. So it might take a few years, but as we have seen you can teach players to skate and get stronger but Stone has one thing you can't teach and that is a scoring touch.
Really? I know it is early, but do you not see him as an NHL forward in 3 years? and do you not think we will be challenging for the cup in 3 years.
Tell you what, if Stone is not part of the team in 3 years, and we are not challenging I will buy him a ticket :)
So Tookie,
Hope you will follow your own vow to change in the New Year !
Would rather engage in debate with you, than go though what you tried to inculcate into our hockey minds !
Last time you were gone for some time, you said "was in Vegas".
Hope to hear from you before our next game on Thursday vs Tampa Bay !!
I mean, we've all seen what getting low draft picks year after year has done for Edmonton and Columbus.
This year has gone perfectly so far for the Sens. We already have enough high end talent to develop now it's about winning and getting the most out of these young guys. Props Chirp.
He's probably just upset because he predicted Ottawa to be the worst team in the league along with the rest of the 'experts.'
Why are you so obsessed with Tookie? Your new years resolution should have been to never mention Tookie again. He hasn't even been around for a couple days and it's all you talk about. It's kinda strange if you ask me.
I think it's like Fight Club - Tookie and Senior are the same person.
I think it's more likely that we'll be challenging in 3 years than it is that Mark Stone being an integral part of that challenge.
Mark Stone is one dimensional compared to virtually all of the other forwards on the WJC roster and whilst he is outstanding at the one thing he does well the truth is that very few one dimensional players excell at the NHL level. I think he has considerable work to do before graduating including a lengthy stint with Bingo.
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
@ AFM11,
Not obsessed with that guy, whatsoever !!!!!!
First comment in many days directed at Tookie, who has once again vanished, and so will Tyrant after lying up front re Mark Stone !!
Thought you at age 23, would no way write such garbage about my posting re Tookie !
Go find that nice ice, you played hockey last time near Riverside Dr or wherever it was !
I'm very disappointed in your comment young man !
Honestly I am certain your life is not so inadequate and void of anything of value that a name on a website is such a focal point if your day....seriousl y go rock out or chill with the grandkids. Stop being so tunnel visioned with your posts....who givesva shit if tookie posts today, tomorrow or in 3 weeks...who cares if he was in Vegas, Maui or prison
You should really see a tutor and read hooked on phonics.
i agree with you regarding Condra and Greening but Smith was always expected to be a handy NHL player. He has still surprised people though.
Using Condra and Greening as examples though, as you just did, can you understand why people might think that all the Mark Stone talk is a little premature? This is their first full year in the NHL and they were drafted 5 and 6 years ago respectively. Stone was drafted in 2010.
If Stone continues to work hard and improve his skating the Sens will give him every chance to make the NHL, but to expect him to come in next season and contribute on our first line, as many seem to believe he will, just doesn't seem realistic.
I'm not saying that Stone will never make it with the senators, just that we shouldn't be clamouring for him to be on the roster next season. Give the guy some time.
@Tcharger,
You are correct in your opinion re Tookie, but many sharp hockey minds on this site, still increase the total posts
when Tookie gets them riled up.
Maybe he will not come back ever, and take Tyrant with him !!
I can't believe you did exactly what I said you would! You are too funny kid. If you're not a kid, can I reccomend an ESL course or hooked on phonics?
You should really see a tutor and read hooked on phonics.
Burn!!!
He made a single comment about him, calm down. Snoopy Senior is probably the most dedicated poster on thi site
That way I can look forward to a blog that contains nothing other than corrections of the lines on the morning of games and the overuse of exclamation points.
This comments section would be completely anodyne without differing opinions but it would also be incredibly dull.
At least those negative posters contribute to the discussion.
Welcome to senschirp y the way
I appreciate your posts, but respectfully disagree on Stone.
What more does the kid need to do to prove he is a legit prospect?
Nail Yagapov(sp) is still not drafted and people are drooling over this kid, yet Stone produces more numbers, seems more of a presence and yet still gets little respect from some on this site.
He is the leading point producer in the CHL, leads all Can Juniors in goals, but what has really struck me is that he is NOT a one dimensional player, in fact last night his playmaking was excellent, and he set up both Strome and Huberdeau with open nets.
His presence was evident yesterday, and I will say it again, I would rather Stone on my team than Nail on my team any day... for many reasons, and not point production.
And I never said he would be in the lineup next year, I said he would be in 3 years when we challenge for the cup!
I Still stand by that
I'm not a fail for nail guy, but Mark Stone shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Yakupov.
I think Mark Stone can be in the NHL in 3 years like you do, but it's not guaranteed. He's still a project and he needs a lot of work.
Yakupov on the other hand will likely be in the NHL next year as an 18 year old. There's no debate here...
Yakupov>Stone
I wish people wouldn't make these comparisons.
That way I can look forward to a blog that contains nothing other than corrections of the lines on the morning of games and the overuse of exclamation points.
This comments section would be completely anodyne without differing opinions but it would also be incredibly dull.
@ The Guy In Heaven,
The Apostle which I truly respected, especially his writing style, and brillant comments, has slandered me directly &
personally for my simple line corrections , for which Chirp
makes appropriate changes. If you are obsessed with my exclamation points, do like Tcharger and forget them.
Maybe you should look in the mirror, before making such
unfounded accusations, and show your elders more respect,
and be less abrasive toward your fellow posters !
Stone missed parts of the 3rd yesterday, like some said because of skate issues, but somethign seems coincidental about it all.
Stone did not play much while HUberdeau sat for 10 minutes, and that says something. Stone is a perfect complimentary player. He will shine if given the right personnel. Oh wait look who our #1 C is!
Yakupov could be a face of an NHL team, Stone would be that essential complimentary player hat can put up the numbers but really not to be counted on to lead a full team
NHL comparison: easy and ugly choice Heatley. More realistic: Anson Carter (think Jason Allison days) and Franzen (wicked release, always finds the holes)
I am saying that the love for Mark Stone is unrealistic. I believe Mark Stone IS a legit prospect - but that's ALL he is at the moment.
A better question to ask is what does Mark Stone have to do to prove he is an NHL player. The answer is to continue to improve the areas in which he is deficient and take chances when they are offered. he can start to do that in Bingo next year.
I also never stated that you believed that Stone would be with the sens next year, I said that many believe he will. If you go back through the posts for the past 2 weeks you will see numerous suggestions that he will be on the first line next year or he will tear up the NHL or will be exactly what Turris needs.
These unrealistic expectations just set the kid up to fail. Just like the posts on Filatovs 30 goals or annointing Zbad and Da Costa as our 2C before they have done ANYTHING of note in the NHL.
Let me be blunt but honest
I love Russian people... I do not like Russian hockey players.
Yes I know, Malkin, Ovechkin, etc, but I would rather Crosby,, Staals, Alfie, Spezza any day.
I have been burnt once too many times by Russian hockey players as a Sens fans... plus who celebrates by diving across the opponnents bench!
Sorry, may not be popular, but that is just my opinion, certainly not everyone's
HAd Stone scored everyone would have said "oh I knew he would be the one" but if I had to give the puck to one player and one player only in the Offensive Zone and say "Go score" Stone isn't the guy which is sad since he is a goal scorer. I would have said give it to huberdeau or strome because they can create and score
So I think we can see how a post referencing your line changes can't be slanderous or an unfounded accusation.
My wider point however is that this board needs differing opinions and to hope that people with different opinions than yours don't post will simply lead to the death of this comments section.
I apologise if you thought it was a personal attack, it wasn't. I find your overuse of exclamation points and your generally enthusiasm for the mundane hilarious.
one thing that hasn't been said much about him is his passing. I was at the game yesterday (nerve wracking to say the least!) and was REALLY impressed with how accurate his tape to tape passes were. Lots of passes through defensive seams right on the money...not a one trick pony! When his skating continues to get better, he should be a good NHL'er
actually there was LOTS of support for Stone in the building, whenever he got the puck you could sense the crowd hoping for something good
Thank you Hook, my point exactly... he has game, can playmake, and has size... not sure but in my math that adds up to pretty good odds
First & foremost, I do thank you for the apology.
Do not read me wrong buddy, I love the debates with anyone on any thing, but when one's negative comments are then
attacking the other poster's points, and using words like "idiot, inaccurate, moron etc ........." it is totally
uncalled for and creates animosity to no end !! Yes, I had
to use double exclamation points .
Have been a die hard fan 60 years.
please name me any Russions who have been drafted in the first round since 2004, that have amounted to anything in the NHL?
I think that 30 GM's around the NHL are siding with me on the risk on drafting Russian hockey players... again may not be popular, but there is a trend
Alex Burmistrov and Dmitry Kulikov are two. There also haven't been any Russian's as highly touted as Yakupov or Grigorenko since Malkin and Ovie, with the exception of maybe Filatov.
The point is, it doesn't matter where these players come from, you can't ignore their unbelievable potential. Yakupov and Grigorenko will both go in the top 5, probably top 3, and I think there are 30 gm;s in the NHL that would side with me on that.
I'm not a Yakupov lover, but you don't overlook him just because of where he comes from.
"Yakupov and Grigorenko will both go in the top 5, probably top 3, and I think their are 30 gm's in the NHL that would side with me on that..." ...correction 29 Bryan Murray won't touch a Russian I would be surprised if Nashville would either,
and as for these back and forth comments ,make your statement ,defend it once and move on for gods sake
Chirp gives us a number of topics almost everyday there is no need to beat your opinions to death jeez we get it already
Varlomov
Any word on Konopka's wrist? I remember him grimacing and grabbing it a lot in the NJ game.
This is incorrect. Stone did not see the ice for almost the entire third period. The only time he got out there was the last few moments and during part of the PP. He was benched. It wasn't just a skate.
Practiced today. He's fine.
I've watched parts of most of all the games on TV during this tournament.. and the only game Yakupov stood out to me was last night. He has 0 goals & 9 assists.. with 4 coming last night -- I would have thought he would have had more points than 5 going into last night's game.
He is a very fast skater and shifty -- lots of skill there... but there is just something about him that I don't like. I can't really say what... just something (please don't call me crazy).
I felt bad for Ryan Murray. Bad luck on those first 3 Russian goals.. He is such a smooth skater and until last night had a really good tournament.
Go Mika... Go Sweden... you did it once -- beat Russia... do it again.
@AFM11,
For a country of this magnitude, the proportion of top
draft 1-10, does not even come close to what it should be.
Yashin & Kovalev burnt the Sens for money, yet never lived
up to potential. Like I said, young Canadians dream of Stanley Cup win, while Russians simply want money, and could care less about winning Stanley Cups.
I have looked everywhere to find the time on ice for the players and I guess they don't keep track. So I guess we will agree to disagree. Either way, missing a few shifts in the game last night whether it be by a bad skate and/or being benched will not make or break Stone's potential NHL career. If he is good enough he will make it, if he is not good enough, he will be one of many players who can say they played for Team Canada and didn't make the NHL. Which is probably a whole lot more than either one of us can say.
Yet another garbage post from Snoopy Senior. Canadian sports media love to make the Russian's look bad, and it looks like you've taken the bait like so many others have.
For every Yashin, Kovalev, or Semin, there's a great driven Russian player like Datsyuk, Federov, Malkin, Bure, Larionov and the list goes on and on and on..
To automatically assume Yakupov and Grigorenko will become the next Yashin or Filatov is a complete joke, especially when they've both come over as teenagers to learn the north american game.
Further on my comment, any of those kids could have been voted as most impressive and I know Canadians hold all the votes (or majority) because Canada is who we've all watched. But did anyone watch Max Friberg? All I can say is Anaheim got themselves a steal in 2011.
@ Tyrant,
You are becoming more redundant every day .
Do you not have anything positive to post ??
You also omitted to reply to my last comment, probably
on purpose, as usual. Yours was around midnight,and mine was early this AM . Seems as though you are a one dimensional poster, who loves to pick apart and nit-pick!
Keep it up boys!! TB will be pissed loosing to Toronto in a bad way!
Yet another garbage post from Snoopy Senior. Canadian sports media love to make the Russian's look bad, and it looks like you've taken the bait like so many others have.
For every Yashin, Kovalev, or Semin, there's a great driven Russian player like Datsyuk, Federov, Malkin, Bure, Larionov and the list goes on and on and on
AFM!!,
Never said, what you just said, made a blank statement
about why Russians want to play in NHL ( $$$$$$$$$$)
Read my lips !!
1) Hubie was back
2) Stone can take right handed faceoffs unbelievably well
Stone was awesome don't get me wrong, but before we give him the Justin Pogge treatment, lets see how he does in terms of professional development. He is at least 2 or 3 years a way at the earliest and he will have to improve in many areas, but no one can deny his ability to read plays and find the holes in the slot for a great passer(Hubie) to find him
Grant it, like many or the majority of ppl on here have never watched a single Stone game aside from when he wears the Red maple leaf, so my basis is off what I have seen the past week
So Canadian's aren't in it for the money? Only Russian's are right? Riiiiiiiiightttt...
Russian's can make just as much money playing at home in Russia as they do in the NHL, in some cases, probably more money.
GO SENS GO!
I also find it interesting that the commentators specifically mentioned that Stone barely saw the ice once Huberdeau took his penalty.
Stone's puck handling and pasing is better than I expected but to get the most out of him he will need a set up man. As I have stated many times, let the guy play in Bingo next year and see what happens, I still think he needs a lot of development, but I think he's in a good place to get that.
One thing for sure that is sure to be seen in the next few years is the impact Ovechkin and Malkin will have on Russian Youth hockey. These were two players, Ovie more so, that have excelled in the NHL and have not been shy when it comes to body contact and getting dirty, and for the first time last night it looked like the Russians could no longer be bullied
(irony since we bullied Ovie and Malkin aruond when they were in WJC)
However, he has proven nothing at this level, and there are lots of players who are junior stars who don't make it. There are also lots of people who weren't supposed to be any good, and had lots of doubters who become stars.
Anyways, I just wanted to post this because statements by people on here today were not correct regarding Stone in Canada's loss last night.
Excelling in our tournament should not be a red carpet to the NHL (obviously Murray isn't stupid enough to trade Zib to make room for Stone hahahahahah oh JFJ)
BUt keep an open mind to what Stone is. A terrific scorer, a tremendous release and nose for the net. But he is still a longshot to make the NHL before 2014
Gallagher has a great shift, and sets up Schwartz (who is in for Huberdeau due to misconduct)on that shift.
Up until this point Stone has logged 2:54 of ice time in the 3rd.
They go back to the same line that scored the next shift and Gallagher scores. (8 minutes remaining)
At 6:58 Stone comes back on the ice with Huberdeau (this is the first shift for Huberdeau since the Misconduct). On this same shift they draw a penalty.
On this PP they score with Stone setting the screen.
With 5:55 Ferraro makes a poor comment saying Stone has been benched, without actually having any merit, which is where people have gotten the rumor from.
With 5 minutes remaining the 3rd Stone has played 3:54 seconds in the 3rd period.
--- Continued ---
In the final 5 minutes of play Stone sees 2:13 of ice time.
Including:
- Taking all draws in the final 1 minute.
- Is the extra attacker for Canada when they pull their goalie.
- Along with D. Hamilton, is the only player for Canada not to be changed, with 15 seconds to go in the period. When Strome etc went off the ice.
Stone played a total of 6:07 in the 3rd period.
@ AFM11,
I give up on a 23 year old, whom I respected,still respect, but does not get it ????
RUSSIANS DO NOT CARE ABOUT WINNING A STANLEY CUP !!!!
Sure Canadian or North American NHL players care about $$
also, but they dream of Winning Stanley Cups ! Got it ??
Thank you for this validation.
You just buried Tyrant's Roar !!!!!!!!!
I am sure there are some Russians who care about reaching the pinnacle of their chosen career whether that be the Olympics in an international sense or the Stanley Cup in a domestic sense. Malkin looked fairly happy when Pittsburgh won the cup - however I am assuming based on what I read on these boards that all he was thinking of when he won the Conn Smythe was what the bonus clause in his contract was.
Equally I am just as convinced that there are players from all nationalities that are in it only for the money, but that is a symptom of their own personality traits not their nationality.
To cover all Russians in one sweeping statement is ignorant and borderline racist.
Where do you get off saying that Russian players don't care about winning a Stanley Cup? Do you not understand what an enormous generalization that is? How would you know such a thing? You don't!
Just ridiculous comments. I guess we should only draft Canadians from here on out, even if the best player's available are Russian's, Swedes, American's, Czech's, because only Canadian's dream of winning the cup.
I doubt there's a player in the NHL that doesn't dream of being the best, of winning the cup.
@ The Apostle,
Never said all , but sure as hell most !
Yashin, Kovalev, Semin lead the pack in playoff disasters !
See, they do not earn extra money for the playoffs, so Stanley Cup is goal of most players .
RUSSIANS DO NOT CARE ABOUT WINNING A STANLEY CUP !!!!
@ The Apostle,
Never said all , but sure as hell most !
so, there are two examples from today when you did - there is no qualification in either statemnt, just a sweeping generalisation with the implication that all people covered under the statement think the same way
Also your statement about players not making money from getting to the playoffs is incorrect. It's called a perfromance bonus and I would assume that most players have that in their contract. I know for a fact that the majority of sens players do (which is incidentally why getting to the 1st round of the playoffs will cost the sens money).
Might as well group Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Jason Spezza, Mike Richards, the Sedin's and Marian Gaborik in with that group of Yashin Kovalev and Semin
All have had bad (minus a year or series or two) playoff careers, never lifting their team to the Cup
Yes Russians like money, but the only reason their are more Russians fleeing for more money elsewhere, is because they are the only Country and Nation to have that option!
If Rick Nash could be offered $10,000,000 to play in the AHL for the Marlies, and CLB was not giving him the minutes he wanted you think he wouldn't take the offer?
Might as well group Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Jason Spezza, Mike Richards, the Sedin's and Marian Gaborik in with that group of Yashin Kovalev and Semin
All have had bad (minus a year or series or two) playoff careers, never lifting their team to the Cup
Yes Russians like money, but the only reason their are more Russians fleeing for more money elsewhere, is because they are the only Country and Nation to have that option!
@ Alcatraz,
You are puting words in my mouth, and what you stated is not what I said. Swedes, Finlanders are like Canadians or North Americans.
The names you say at opening, still dream of SC. Because they do not win one,does not make them fall into Yashin, Kovie etc group.
Believe that you have the answer on Playoff Money,which is even more incentive for Russians to try and perform, and
not simply float all the time.
Have enjoyed this back and forth , no nonsense , no negativity!
Simply good solid debates, with events and discussions
without Tookie, a little bit of Tyrant, pushing 200 !!
GO SENS GO !!!!!
now i understand!! you know exactly what the russians are dreaming about!
oh and the fact Kovalev has a SC ring means nothing eh?
Gotcha
@ Alcatraz,
Drafted in 1991 by NY Rangers !
Good for you, and Kovalev must have been with the Rangers
when he won SC . It was 1994 when Messier promised the fans
a Stanley Cup !
I'm sure he loves the SC Ring, but he was just as useless as Yashin during the playoffs,after his first Stanley Cup.
Looking back at earlier post, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and a few others were drafted in 6th or 7th round, and these guys cared about winning SC, !! Not many Russians like these
hard working players,who earned their stripes busting their butts game in game out.
Actually as Alfie has 88 pts in 107 games at a record of .82 ppg I guess you just did.
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