(UPDATE 2:35 PM)- A quick update from practice. Chris Phillips skated with the team and will wait before deciding his status for tomorrow night. Here is how the forwards lined up...Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson, Greening-Turris-Condra, Foligno-Smith-Butler, Daugavins-Konopka-Neil. MacLean did not announce his starter vs. the Flames.
A day after their annual skills competition, the Ottawa Senators are scheduled to practice at 11:00 AM today at Scotiabank Place.
The Sens have a busy weekend ahead of them which includes a home game against the surging Calgary Flames and then a tough road test in Buffalo on Saturday night.
I wasn't able to attend yesterday's skills competition but it certainly sounded like an exciting day for fans of all ages. Team Alfredsson topped Team Phillips 16-13 but there were a couple stand outs performances that caught the eye of those in attendance.
The most surprising result had to be Jason Spezza's performance in the hardest shot competition. His first shot topped 100 MPH and then on his second attempt he registered a team high 103.8 MPH. We all know Spezza has a great shot but I don't know that anyone thought he had that kind of velocity behind it. Spezza is one of the league's premier playmakers but it's pretty clear he also has a very underrated shot.
Spezza also won the team accuracy shooting competition, going four for four. Milan Michalek won the puck control relay and Colin Greening won the fastest skater competition for the second straight year.
While the Ottawa Senators were showing off their skills, prospects in the organization continue to shine at the World Juniors. Coming off a two goal performance in the tournament opener, Mika Zibanejad registered a team high 12 shots on goal against Switzerland.
Sens fans were already familiar with Mark Stone but he has become a household name across the country through two games for Team Canada. After a three goal performance against Finland, Stone scored the game winner against the Czech's last night. Stone will have a chance to add to his goal totals when Canada takes on Denmark tonight.
- With the performance of Sens prospects the last couple of days, I thought it would be good to do a more in depth look at some of the guys in the Sens system. Keep an eye out for that piece later this afternoon.
- In what may be the final twist in the saga that has been Nikita Filatov's season, Dmitry Chesnokov reports that Filatov was hurt just two games into his KHL season and will be sidelined indefinitely.
http://senators.nhl.com/v2/ext/PDFs/Prospect_Update-122911.pdf
Good to see our prospects doing well at the WJC, even Culek looks like a prospect now.
Poor Brian Lee in the press box again I guess.
Yeah Chirp - how dare you! /end sarcasm
Nick - find a new blog man if you're not happy with FREE INFO from Chirp.
FYI - Foligno went 4/5 in the accuracy but won the final against Spezza (2nd vs 1st) by barely hitting the target on his one shot. Spezza went 4/4 in the prelims but missed in the one-shot final.
On a different note: It frustrates me at how many people always bash on Spezza. Yes, i moan when he gives the puck away with a blind pass, but he deserves much more credit than a lot of people give him. And he shrugs off all the haters silently with a goofy grin and walks the walk when he's on the ice.
Perhaps dominate was the wrong word? Thought it was pretty impressive that he hit 103.8 MPH in hardest shot and then went 4 for 4 in the accuracy shooting.
Ok Spezza was the most impressive,
we all know that he is one of the best passers in the league, now we find out he has one of the hardest shots, but not only hard, it is accurate as well!
There is no denying he is one of the best players in the league!
Let's get those votes going and kick those Leafs out of the game!
GO SENS GO!
I would expect that Spezza, Michalek, Alfie and Karlsson will all be there.
Voting Thomas ahead of Reimer is well worth the effort though - guy does not belong at the All-Star game.
I've done 30 for all my email accounts, er I mean for my one and only account of course .... I can't seem to do more the following day (or even weeks later).
Am I missing something?
His skating is still poor and unfair expectations are not going to do him any favours. Likely still 2 full seasons away from the big club.
stone will be on the team next year as will zibenejad
This guy is an idiot
Ahead of teams like Washington, New Jersey, Colorado, Dallas, etc.
What a joke.
If TSN wants to be taken seriously they have to get rid of this Laugh fluffer, and become a hell of a lot more unbiased.
Wager?
It needs to be from different accounts. I've voted with all of my accounts. That being said, you can put in any email address when you re-register, just make sure you don't select to be added to the balloting for a trip to the allstar game as you won't receive an email stating you won. Simply provide another username and email address each time and you can vote as often as you have time for.
Kanopka nailed Greening with shave cream after the fastest skate. He got it back during team photos at the end. Everyone was laughing. It's probably the best team vibe I've seen in years.
#Sens sign 2011 first-round draft picks Stefan Noesen and Matt Puempel to entry-level contracts: http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=608651
Added it to the top of the post.
right.. i always forget to hit the refresh button before posting
found some interseting news, silfverberg will be back tomorrow from his shoulder injury and he will be wearing number 100 because The club Brynäs was founded in 1912 so they want to celebrate 100 years. Dackell was supposed to wear the #100 but since he's injured it seems like Silfverberg will do it instead.
@ ShawnK,
Do not agree with your analysis whatsoever.
He is a scoring machine in WHL, with Brandon Wheat Kings
Stats from last year at age 18 :
GP G A Pts
71 37 69 106
2011-2012 so far at 19 :
33 27 38 65
He was drafted 178 in 6th round by Senators
Looking like a better player, than Sean Couturier who
is with Flyers already !
is with Flyers already!"
Quite possibly the most inaccurate thing you've ever said Snoopy. Stone's skating still needs significant work to get to the NHL level. Stone is supposed to be dominating the WHL at his age. He's playing versus opponents his age and younger.
Stone's WJHC is impressive so far but it's pretty clear he gets all his points just by standing in a 15 foot box in front of the net where he is currently stronger than most other players he competes against. At the NHL level vs grown men it won't be so easy to occupy that space and score those goals.
Couturier has a much higher ceiling and will likely be a much better player at the NHL level. I'd say the ceiling for Stone is a Mike Knuble style career. I'd say his chances of reaching it are quite low. Fans shouldn't blow their load over junior numbers. Stone will have a hard time translating his game to the NHL.
The comment about his skating sounds exactly like what Ray Ferraro said about Stone in the first game. He went as far as to say he plays to his limitations. Honestly, I thought Stone looks fast out there with players his own age. I don't think he'll make that jump to the NHL, I think AHL is the way to go, as I believe we have the guys in our lineup already for next year with the addition of Turris.
Mostly agree with what you are saying except with some time to properly develop in the A, he may just turn out to be that diamond in the rough. NOT next year though, like some retarded homers are hoping for above...LET THE KID DEVELOP DAMMIT!
I think the reasoning may be that every team is allowed 50 players under contract at a time and Murray wanted to know where the team stood moving forward towards the trade deadline. He may want picks coming back as opposed to multiple prospects to ensure we stay within our limit and have our important players locked up so we don't have too many fringe players under contract.
I won't pretend to be a better evaluator of talent than the dozens of scouts and analysts who've pegged him as a minor leaguer. That said, in every sport there are players who don't look or play the way the experts think is right. See D. Hasek or T. Tebow.
Who knows what Stone will do at the highest level, but you have to relish the possibility that he might prove the professionals wrong.
Forget the videos and the computers, look at our guys playing the game...
14;19;9...9mm the focus!
71;7;11...Balance
22;15;23...the Daug just turns ZacK's crank
16;28;25...Neiler gets the first PP
Why can't Coach Paul see this?
Quite possibly the most inaccurate thing you've ever said Snoopy. Stone's skating still needs significant work to get to the NHL level. Stone is supposed to be dominating the WHL at his age. He's playing versus opponents his age and younger.
Stone's WJHC is impressive so far but it's pretty clear he gets all his points just by standing in a 15 foot box in front of the net where he is currently stronger than most other players he competes against. At the NHL level vs grown men it won't be so easy to occupy that space and score those goals.
It might be "inaccurate", to your thinking Tyrant, but I
see much more potential in Stone, than even a guy like Nail Yakupov who has many drooling over him !
He's a great talent down low around the net but to think he's going to make the team in a top 6 role next year is laughable.
He certainly has a lot of fans here doesn't he? I was surprised he won the hardest shot as well. I was only kidding you but it's always funny how many come out to defend him. I was more surprised to see Greening break his own fastest skater record which swas already a Sens record.
Couldn't find the line ups posted above but in general I was agreeing with you...play the "Daug!"
My beef is with the Bingo Line being busted for #25, who we like but does not have hands to play with our skilled kids!
I usually agree with what you post but this here should take the prize of homer post of the year.
If I remember.. it was the top 'accuracy shooter' from each team that went head to head.. the first one to 'hit' a target won. Foligno missed but somehow got to shoot again and hit the target on the 2nd shot.. but they counted it as the first..don't know reason why. Spezza missed with his first shot.. so Foligno won.... BUT in the first rounds Spezza was the only one to go 4 for 4.
I believe Stone ends up in Bingo. He still has some improvement to make with his skating..he will be given a chance to make the O-Sens.. but I believe he ends up in Binghamton. They will have a much better team next season..
You really shouldn't post ridiculous posts like this. Saying that Stone has more potential than Yakupov really makes me question your knowledge.
I think Stone has the potential to be a top six player in the NHL, but it's going to take him a while to get there. Yakupov has the potential to be one of the better players in the world, and it's not goig to take him anywhere near as long to make it to the NHL as Stone.
And there is plenty of competition there.
If Stone was better than Couturier and considering we have players as limited as Butler, Condra and Daugavins (as good as they have been for us this year) on the roster, Stone would have played 25 games for the sens this year.
Stone is the latest in the line of prospects that impatient fans want to annoint as the next big thing (see Filatov, Da Costa, Zbad - all just from this year) based on nothing but potential, optimism and day dreaming. Stone very well might make it to the NHL with the Sens but to claim he is better than players already in the league is just idiocy.
in formed info on the Sens ,even the home town papers seem to screw up the simplest bits of info and as for those pay sites like hockeybuzz don't know there ass from a 5 hole I'm sure that Yost idiot hasn't ever been to SBP it's pathetic what these guys get away with anyway enough hate for now,
Any word on why Rundblad has only played 1 out of a possible 3 games in Phoenix ? just wondering...
again Thank You Chirp keep up the good work in 2012 it is very much appreciated by us REAL Sens fans
Thanks for this! Always nice to know that the effort that is put into this site is appreciated. I haven't been as sharp over the holidays with family commitments and an awful battle with the flu but things are finally getting back on track.
Thanks for your support!
try to remember the first lesson taught {Wickenheiser clause}
as much as you think you know about a players future the truth is you really don't know Jack ,no one is a slam dunk sure fire NHL star until they prove it on the big stage,for every Steven Stamkos there is 5 Nikita Filatovs...just sayin
At this rate, could very well be as early as next season.
GO CANADA.
@ AFM11,
Let's wait to see what develops at start of 2012-2013,
and we will see, if Stone can match Yakupov or vice- versa
Stone will make the team next year but im not to sure how hes gonna do. He does look like a beast out there despite him not being the greatest skater. I see him in our top six for sure next year.
Atta Boy !!!!!!!!!
All these skeptical people, slamming me for being more upbeat about Mark Stone, and discrediting his early talent.
He will develop his skating, and other deficiencies, real quick, just like he has developed his scoring skills
i find it pretty simple, zibanejad silfverberg prince stone pageau will all be the new main targets at next year's camp and possibly the 1st rounder depending how or who we draft. and i believe silfverberg and zibanejad will be the first ones to make the team. the rest go to bingo
You all must admit that Stone is all over the ice, and not just parked in front of the net ( like someone said yesterday )
He has 7 goals in 2 and 2/3 periods, and is dominating the tournament.
And to Tyrant, The Apostle, AFM 11, and tcharger :
He backchecks, steals the pucks from opponents, and never gives up !!
No ones saying he isn't a good player. He has a lethal shot, great hands, size and strength and he's defensively responsible. He is however the worst skater on team Canada. His skating is Bad at the junior level. Imagine what he'd look like against the best skaters in the world in the NHL.
His skating isnt going to improve that quickly to make the team next year. It's nearly impossible. There's a reason he was a 6th round pick and not a first. His skating is that bad!
His skating isnt going to improve that quickly to make the team next year. It's nearly impossible. There's a reason he was a 6th round pick and not a first. His skating is that bad!
@ AFM11,
So his skating is not that great eh ??
He sure has been skating all over the ice tonite.
Alfredsson was a 5th or 6th round pick in 1993 or 1994,
and he has developed into a star player, not quite an elite one, but almost.
Should enter into NHL Hall Of Fame someday !!
This is all we're tryig to say about Stone. He has the potential to be a very good player, but he's only 19. None of us have said he will never be a good player for the Sens, we're just saying its going to take time to develop his skating.
So like Alfie, you should expect to see Stone make the team when he's around 22, 23 or even 24. Your comments of him skating alongside Spezza and Michalek as soon as next year are ridiculous. Give him the time he needs. He doesn't need fans like you putting such lofty expectations on him.
I like the way you presented your last comment, which I duly respect.
Alfie was a late bloomer, and won the Calder in his first season 1995-1996.
Stone is like Jimmy Skinner, who was 18, and ready NHL wise.
He is only 19, but almost ready NHL wise.
Let's wait and see . like I said in an earlier post !!
He is far from being a Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby etc .......
But better than average NHL players, such as Mike Fisher,
Radek Bonk, and many others at the same age !!
You gotta realize how stacked team Canada is compared to Finland, Czech, and Denmark. I'd have been surprised if he DIDN"T score at least 4 goals over the past week.
Nothing against current NHL players from those teams, but all 3 games were annihilations. We all knew Canada would win, and you had to have figured Stone would score a bit in this tournament.. He's played well, yeah, but all 3 of those teams were nowhere near as skilled as TC, so it shouldn't mean too much that we beat them during these stages.
He may make the team in a few years, but his chances next year are real slim.
He's 19 years old. He's playing in Jr. Hockey. And the biggest thing....not a single person on this site, not even Chirp (not a diss towards you man, I love your site) is any level of scout.
No one reading this blog has any sort of experience judging the talents of players for any level of hockey. Not even Timbits kids for the upcoming Novice team.
Let's all get over our ego's and just wait and see what happens with the kid.
Pumping From Puempel
Stone Cold?
Free Filatov.
Quality post. As fans, we can and SHOULD get excited about performances like the one Stone has put together these past few games but it's dangerous to assume that will translate into the same type of production at the pro level. It's just too early to tell with Stone.
michalek - spezza - stone
zibanejad - turris - alfredsson
thoughts?
Stone is a big IF for that IMO. He'll have to demonstrate he's improved his skating at training camp to even be considered. The world juniors and the WHL are much different than the NHL.
Another IF about that, sadly enough, is Alfie. Whether he'll play next year is yet to be seen.
Realistically though, people need to cool it on the prospect porn. Sure I like to keep tabs on Sens prospects and imagine what they might turn into. What hockey fan doesn't.
The reality of the situation is though, none of us know. Stone could turn out to be a 50 goal scorer, a career AHLer or somewhere in between. Same with basically every other kid in the world. Some people develop later than others, some flame out to quickly. The only way of knowing what these kids are going to be 2, 5, 10 years down the road is to just sit back, open a bottle of your favorite beer, watch what happens and cheer on your Senators.
Anything else is a moot point and a waste of breath, really.
It certainly didn't hurt your cause haha
What about if I told you that I tell all of my fellow Sens loving fans here on PEI (so all 4 of them) about your website?
Would that get me like an official autographed Senschirp t-shirt or something?
they will get 10-15 goals each
lets not get ahead of ourselves people
i like that line...does that put michalek/spezza /alfredsson...f oligno, turris, ?
Anything else is a moot point and a waste of breath, really.
@ ChrisT,
Best post of the day with all due respect !!
All SensChirp posters have their own perspective on Stone.
Love debating all you knowledgeable hockey fans, but, I never, ever call anyone "ridiculous, idiotic, inaccurate,
etc............
Unlike Tookie, and FAI4NAIL, I show respect to one and all !
Friday Ottawa Sun Headline : STONE AGE !!!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!
like I have speculated, Phoenix knows about his potential, but I am convinced that this kid/agent have threatened to go back to SEL if he does not play in the NHL. This is the wrong approach for a kid trying to learn the NHL game, and will seriously hamper his development. Murray probably knew this and sent him packing...IMO of course
LMAO!!
Even I cant beat this!! lol!
It's strange because he does have potential and was even getting points in Phoenix. You are probably right. There seems more to him that anybody is letting on about. this kid clearly needs ahl grooming yet no team dares send him down?
7-0
8-0
9-0
Its hard to watch sometimes and IMO kinda boring.
The competition is hardly there, only in the knockout rounds where the good teams finally play each other.
Thanks Tookie, but are we not truly all homers ??
I'm convinced you will have another further comment
on Mark Stone, who is having an unbelievable rash of goals
and leads all the players in World Junior Tournament.
Not at all, Stone just needs to work on his skating, when I compared him to Heatley, I got bashed but his 6 goals have all been Heatley like, infront of net getting rebounds or passes, with the occasional nice move/deke goal.
Like Tyrant said and I've said before, Stone is playing to his limitations, he knows what he can do and does it well. Team Canada is using him to perfection, putting him with fast skaters to carry the puck and setting him up.
People say he's a bad skater. Who cares. I'm sorry but you don't need to be a great skater to play in the show. Not ever team is comprised of 20 speed guys. To me he looks like Franson out there. He understands that goalies are good and stop the first shot about 99% of the time. Therefore the way to score is to get screens, tips, rebounds, and quick one timers...
Cody Franson ;)
So, he's playing the best competition of his life but you realize he's only played terrible teams.....Hmmmm...
Sweden was the toughest by far and they lost 5-3 with Stone only scoring 1 and wasnt much of a factor in that game.
Like I said, cant compare until he plays vs the other powerhouse teams.
This is how I see the Sens next year.
Michalek-Spezza-Stone
Silfverburg-Turris-Alfie
Foligno-DaCosta-Zibby
Condra-Smith-Greening
trade bait for deadline
Neil
Gonchar
Kuba
Butler
Daugavins
and
O'Brien
Package them as you like - get more picks
Stone is deceptive - very much like Heatly in the early years.
Why do you feel the need to nit pick every little detail people say. You clearly knew this is the best competition he's faced so why make a stupid comment like that. You fudging tool
The NHL is a very hard league to play in. It's extremely difficult to make it if you can't skate well. On top of that the way he scores goals won't be easy in the NHL. Guys are bigger, stronger, and have a much higher compete level in front of the net. Now factor in that the goaltenders are much better. Stone like any 6th rounder will have a tough time making an impact at the NHL level. I hope as much as you do that he does it but you need to temper expectations and realize it's unlikely that he will. Cheer for the small chance he does but keep your head level because he probably won't. Telling everyone he's going to be on Spezza's wing next year just makes you look retarded.
If we do miss out on one of the top end forwards like Yakupov or Grigorenko there might be an excellent dman consolation price to be had with pick 8 or 9.
Interesting though that there are possible injury concerns over Grigorenko and Galchenyuk - one of those might drop.
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