It has become the norm for this hockey club but you have to admire the fight they showed against the Southeast leading Panthers. After a late tying goal by the visitors, the Sens refused to quit and were able to pick up a crucial extra point in overtime.
Obviously a huge goal for Bobby Butler who has struggled for most of the season. Paul MacLean played a bit of a hunch in the extra session sending Butler and Turris out as the forward pair in the 4 on 4 situation. For the second straight game, the newest Senators, Kyle Turris picked up an assist on the game winning goal.
Another strong effort from the Captain who picked up a goal and a couple assists. Alfredsson now has 399 goals in his career.
Last night's win helped the Sens pull into 7th in the Eastern Conference, tied at 38 points with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Paul MacLean will make a change to his line up against the Hurricanes as call up Mike Hoffman will play his first game in the NHL. The Sens did not have a morning skate this morning so the line combinations are still up in the air at this point.
Brian Lee will come out of the Ottawa line up and Craig Anderson will get the start in goal.
- Some good news on the injury front as Milan Michalek passed his baseline tests and has been cleared to return but will do the right thing and wait until after the break.
- Mentioned this on Twitter but apparently Bryan Murray spoke with the officials after the game last night over what he felt was an extremely questionable call on Nick Foligno.
And how about Alfie eh? 39 years old and he's still playing at a high level. The last 10 games or so he has looked as good as ever. He's slowly creeping up on a point per game.
any ideas chirp?
Great point. Losing Foligno to that questionable call could have buried the Senators. They refused to quit.
The funny thing about this is I imagine most people expected Da Costa to get the call-up. In my opinion this is a pretty strong message to send to Da Costa that he has to work harder to get back into the NHL. Unless he is injured right now, in which case forget everything I just said.
I found Condra's penalty frustrating...F oligno's was a different issue all together and very frustrating
I'm not an nhl conspiracy theorist by any stretch but there are multiple examples this year of the sens getting short changed. you dont need to look any further than comparing foligno's hit to the one alfie recieved.
certainly seems like foligno has become a marked man!
I don't think its a "message" to DaCosta though. His numbers in Bingo are decent relative to the team's performance. And in the time he spent with the big club, his play was as good, if not better than Butler. He's just on the butt end of a more flexible contract IMO. I think bringing Hoffman up is more a question of having enough centremen and wanting to get wingers called up.
I hope for his sake that he makes an impact in his 5-8 minutes of ice time. With Winchester and Regin out, there's an opportunity for a long lasting stay.
Quietly becoming one of the top players on Team Canada. 3 pts last night! This guy is going to be a beast for us in the near future.
Things are looking up in Ottawa folks!
Pretty soon Tookie will have to read a newspaper to find things to rage about!
Also, why the heck is Lee out and not Carkner? Lee was very good last night IMO. He played a solid physical game. I didnt even remember Carkner was playing until I saw his #39 in the 3rd.
As for last night's game... nice that they did not quit. With the Foligno penalty... that was NOT a 5 min and a game. Gaustad got no penalty, and no fine or suspension for concussing Winchester with a cheap shot... and Foligno gets it for the same type of hit that the Detroit player did on Kessler the other night-- he got no penalty either.
I'm really beginning to question the integrity of the NHL and it's referees and Shanahan. I'm beginning to wonder if someone is 'lining their pockets' -- a la that basketball ref.
As for Condra nice save....
Its the reason why betting insports was banned for so long and itkept the game honest. Greed took over and it makes you think when questionable calls changea game. I see more penaties called in the last 5 minutes more than ever before and it always to the team down a goal. Vegasis controlling games as much as they can, atleast thats how it looks imo. It just makes you wonder doesn't it.
We won the trade.
This influx of young refs the last few years has destroyed the quality of the game, and the only party to blame is the NHL itself. It shouldn't be this hard to hold your refs more accountable!
Michalek can only be compared to what Heatley DID as a Senator, not as a Shark or a Wild. Heatley' time here was spectacular, people were singing his praises all over town, we were gonna win a Cup with this guy, then a slew of idiotic coaches followed, capped by Clouston...So he pulled a Turris and bailed.
Milan was doing well, he could have reached 45-50 but now its out of reach and now he's concussed...
Now since joining team turris is a point per game with assists on back to back game winners. I guess we are going to hear a brand new approach to judging trades this afternoon.
LOL! With a comment like that, Tookie will eat you for lunch. Turris is a PPG player with the Sens....lol...H e's played 2, count'em, 2 GAMES! Not even close to a good sample size but it is a decent start, and nothing more. Let's see how he does after 82 games and discuss who won that trade then, not now...
I said this yesterday as well, the refs have 0 accountability to the league, teams, or themselves right now. They make a horrible game changing call and nothing happens to them, there's no discipline, no apology, nothing.
Teams spend millions upon millions of dollars and the fans spend even more, it's about time we stopped letting these Zebra striped clowns run the show...
My suggestion yesterday was to have an off-ice official, so if there's even any doubt at all about a call, they go to the off-ice ref to review. The ref will have a war room style set-up to review the plays. Isn't that what they do in the NFL now?
If he wants to compare what players did as a Senator, then our sample size can only be a most 24 games large.
Agreed. Judgment like that reminds me of the people on Dragon's Den who invest their whole life savings, and re-mortgage their houses on a lame board game... So sad...
1st, they should go back to 1 ref and get rid of the 2 ref system. That's just an extra body with a God complex yearning to blow his whistle and dictate the game. It doesn't work.
2nd, refs should learn to rely on their linesmen, especially when they were better positioned to see a play. Some do but most don't and that's just old school, egocentric, chain of command bullshit. I think that the autocratic style of management rarely works in any work environment.
3rd, stop hiring former players to hold important, critical-thinki ng type jobs in the league. This type inbreeding doesn't work. Having been a captain or assistant captain of a team does not qualify you to be in management...
Fans of the Rebuild should identify where some of our players would be ranked if their draft class was re-done in 2011.
2008 - Karlsson 15th Overall - 3rd/4th Overall
2009 - Cowen 9th Overall - 4th/5th Overall
2010 - *Turris 3rd Overall - 11th Overall vs. 2007 Class
2011 - TBD
We're icing two top five picks in Karlsson and Cowen if those drafts were re-done. The value of that can't be understated. It remains to be seen how Turris, Zibanejad, Noesen, Puempel, and Silfverberg develop.
They replied to contact the following body :
info@ nhlofficials.com
I wrote them, never got any response, and a few weeks later I tried to write them again, and they were invisible ??
Good Luck in your efforts to correct the grand larceny
from being rectified !!
Congrats on going that extra mile. I've also tried with no success. I bet the e-mail is connected to their junk mail, or is managed by a clueless 16 year old intern.
Unless you're Brian Burke, Ken Holland or Stan Bowman, you'll never heard or acknowledged.
@ Mat,
They sure do not appreciate getting their cage rattled eh !
I'd like to see more of this type of thing. Similar to MLB perhaps. After a whistle if there's something in question (a call made by a ref or a linesman signalling to a ref that he might have missed one) just huddle up. NFL refs do it to. Nothing wrong with doing that and then making the right call or "there was no infraction on the play" even.
Egos man - too many big egos among refs.
hey andreasdackell! !1 STFU.
The last thing we need is every single article turning into a stupid tookie-led debate.. your little comment doesnt help anything. it just makes this site worse for the rest of us.
you're just as bad as took in my opionion.
..And it'll take 5-10 years to know who won the Turris Rundblad trade, let's all just leave it be.
So if linesman can call or recommend major penalties -- why was nothing given to Gaustad for the Winchester hit... and I'm still scratching my head for the reason he was not suspended or even fined?
How are the players going to know what gets a suspension and what doesn't?
not only that Gaustad was allowed to stay in the game for a very obvious deliberate hit to injure. Foligno's still falls in the gray area.
I feel there is an increase in game misconducts, fines and hearings, but not the required increase in supplementary discipline that will actually curb harmful hits. If Gaustad gets canned for his hit for lets say three games, guys on the sabres team like Gaustad, McCormick, Kaleta combined with buffalo's stinking record will think twice about making that kind of play.
hockey should be all about the contact sport we all like, but it should not become a sport where teams have to resort to injuring the opponent to win. I think that alot of players these days are doing the latter, whether intentionally or unintentionally .
officiating , at their next Meeting, or even sooner.
Murray went to see the officials after the game and got zilch !!
Bryan Murray has done a good job, but not enough can be said about Paul Maclean though. He has literally turned this thing around. What a guy. I hope he's our coach for a long time.
I fear the amount of money Karlsson will be asking for but he's well worth the money!
I'm not an nhl conspiracy theorist by any stretch but there are multiple examples this year of the sens getting short changed. you dont need to look any further than comparing foligno's hit to the one alfie recieved.
No way, its def a conspiracy at this point
examples:
Alfie Wolski - no suspension fine
Neil Ovie - no suspension no fine
Foligno and his two knees - one fine no suspensions
Numerous penalties that are bushleague agasint the sens
there are a couple other controversial hits on sens players that i just cant think of at the moment
shanahan must have some sort of vendetta against maclean while he was being coached in detroit
not only that, shanahan rediculed ottawa all the time, especially that while post game bike ride interview
the guy is a jerk off lets face it
and not to mention, what about jovo slamming folignos head into the glass after the clean hit on ellerby? wont even be a talkin point, shanahan is a joke? bettman? shanahan is single handedly ruining this league
Today at a local gas station i saw some healty candy or something nobody will prob buy being advertized as seen on dragons den. So i guess sometimes people do make it big on that show...
I also thought he was brought in on a "Temporary" basis until the figured out someone else to fill in the disciplinary role. Guess not...
I counted three instances where the official furthest from the play made the call. Always find it strange when that happens.
HAHA! Zing!
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Nope. The only opinion that counts is the all knowing, all powerful opinion of governors (as imposed by Bettman...)
We're all ready to get our minds rocked....
I'm not sure I get your point. If no one is buying the candy, are people really making it big?
Is this some kind of Jedi mind trick?? Stop it! You're making me want to develop board games!!!
Letang current salary is based off low point production not current production. Green scored 30 goals one year insane amount. Doughty has a Norris Nomination. Keith has a Norris Trophy.
Keith Yandle is the perfect comparison. I know many don't watch him play but he is a treat to watch. Very smoote Dman
Yandle:
Year 1: 43gp: 5g 7a 12pts (entry level contract)
Year 2: 69gp: 4g 26a 30pts (entry level contract)
Year 3: 82gp: 12g 29a 41pts (2nd deal)
Year 4: 82gp: 11g 48a 59pts (2nd deal)
Salary:5 year $26,250,000 Cap hit: $5,250,000 (signed July 2011)
Karlsson:
Year 1: 60gp: 5g 21a 26pts (Yandle year 2)
Year 2: 75gp: 13g 32a 45pts (Yandle year 3)
Year 3: 35gp: 4g 29a 33pts (Yandle year 4)
Salary:????
Would love to get the same 5 year deal as Yandle got
If Murray can pull it off, all the best to us but I think it may end up being slightly higher. His agent would argue that by comparison, Karlsson's point totals are higher for every year, if only slightly. And at this point in the year, he would have to be considered for a Norris nomination which is added value to his case (and pretty incredible in such a young career).
What I would like to see is a gradual contract.
Year 1 at 4.5
Year 2 at 5.0
Year 3 at 5.5
Year 4 at 5.5
Year 5 at 6.5 for a total of 27mil with a cap hit of 5.5ish.
The terms of his extension will be highly dependant on how quickly Murray can get this deal done. The longer the wait, the more he will cost IMO.
3 games
especially dean...
but espeeeecially denis
I've always liked Dean but Denis is just brutal.
2 on 1 with Alfie, you might wanna pass
I hope he's not on of those that are scarred of going in the high traffic areas...
@ AllStarAlfie,
You got me thinking that I should go on Dec 27 at SBP to see new scoreboard, watch the Habs get slammed, but
to witness Alfredsson's goal # 400 live !!
would be sweet if hoffman scores one tonight.
EDIT** 2 shots now!!!!! holy smokes
one of these days he might even get a point
Now lets all pretend that he is an excellent player, and thumbs down!
How about Spezza's game tonight. No one's having legs tonight. Wait, the Cardiac Kids will strike again.
He's doing his job, I'm not disputing. And getting more and more comfortable. Just a little something I noticed on the attack.
Not hatin'..
Merry Christmas everyone...and to all, a good night!
Go SENS Go
On to the Team Canada game now... How much TV is bad for your health?? 2 back to back games ok??
Tack!
Projected Lineup on a Game Day thread.
Actually, it was the exact same lineup as the Panthers game, in which Line 4 was : Lee- Konopka- Butler, then
became in Carolina game : Hoffman - Konopka - Butler.
No doubt this could have been a blowout , were it not for numerous heroic saves by Craig Anderson.
Merry Christmas to the Ottawa Senators, all the fans,
and SensChirp owner for his excellent website, and finally all the posters on SensChirp !!
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