After a tough loss at the hands of the Boston Bruins, the Sens will look to get back on track against another Eastern Conference power house.
Even without Sidney Crosby in the line up, the Pittsburgh Penguins are a handful and will give the Ottawa Senators all they can handle tonight at Scotiabank Place. The Sens are playing the second of four in their holiday homestand.(
Things got a little heated between these two teams after a meeting in late November.
An incident between Crosby and Foligno led to some verbal sparring between the two teams that included Bryan Murray suggesting that he would have more toughness in the line up the next time the teams met. Should be interesting to see if all the talk leads to anything on the ice.
Sergei Gonchar and Filip Kuba both took the morning skate but neither will play tonight against the Pens. There is a chance they could both be ready to play on Tuesday though. For now though, MacLean will go with the same line up as Wednesday night although there will be some juggling in the line combinations.
Here is how the Sens are expected to line up
Greening-Spezza-Alfredsson
Foligno-Regin-Neil
Daugavins-Smith-Condra
Konopka-Winchester-Butler
Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Rundblad
Carkner-Lee
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- Darren Dreger mentioned this morning that Kyle Turris could be on the move today. We know the Senators have shown an interest in the past but I've been told they really aren't in the mix right now. I would assume the Calgary Flames are the front runners.
- Marc Crawford sparked some speculation last night when he suggested the Philadelphia Flyers offer Brayden Schenn in exchange for Sergei Gonchar. The Flyers need some help on the blueline with Pronger done for the year and Gonchar and Kuba are both guys they could take a look at.
Fits in with the rebuild.
Going to the game tonight....hope its a fight night
That's what I was thinking. Like, I know Paul Holmgren falls off his rocker sometimes, but really, a 37-or-whatever year old, albeit good defenceman, on the brink of retirement, straight up for one of the best prospects in hockey?
Sounded too good to be true. Anyways, I'm sure if it's possible Murray will get it done. Brayden Schenn is gonna be a sick player.
Can u imagine having him play against his brother 6 times a year?
Pheonix never should have rushed him.
Coach Paul, ya play Nick a little more and Alfie a little less huff and puff...
I usta to bet 4-7 all the time @ the track but after tonight it will be nice to see #4 and #7 not have to play together for awhile.
"Andy" get your nap this afternoon, Wednesday you looked like you had been up for three days.
They currently have 59 million committed to 20 players for next season. They'll need to resign RFA Jakub Voracek and UFA Matt Carle who will both be in line for a fairly big raise. They can't afford Gonchar and there are many better options out there for them that make more sense.
Don't get your hopes up people.
Can't wait. Gonna be a good game!! With all the concussions, Crosby, Letang, Michalek 1, Michalek 2.... going to be a night of the 2nd liners (with the exception of Gino).
The only thing, is I hope they don't come out with 'revenge' on their minds like they did last time... that didn't work out too well in our favour.
Here's to Foligno getting the team's first hatty of the year!!
If you are able to recall, in last game vs Bruins, Brian Lee played on right side and not left side !
So, it should be Carkner- Lee.
He also played a lot with Phillips ( Phillips-Lee)
Philly is goin' for it all this year, Lord Stanley. Pronger is done, they got his money next year and his CAP hit this year (LTI). Holmgren will do something big just for Mr. Snider and his fans.
Note: Meszaros scoring from the point from his pal Yager last night didn't help!
I'm sure they'll do something, but it won't be Gonchar. They aren't going to try to replace Pronger, who is one of the most bruising defenseman of all time, with an over-paid, soft, over-the-hill Gonchar who has another year left at 5.5 million.
There a MANY better options out there for Philly than Gonchar. They need a solid defender, not a powerplay quarterback like Gonch.
@Real_ESPNLeBru n: Ottawa would be a great fit for Turris, slotting in as No. 2 center behind Spezza.... not sure if Senators can pull if off or not though...
@Real_ESPNLeBru n: Am told the Senators and Coyotes have spoken this week on Turris but I don't get the sense that Ottawa is the front-runner right now...
@DarrenDreger: Told the Calgary Flames are out of the Turris hunt. Ottawa still has interest. Wpg isn't in. Toronto is in its freeze (lol)...
No disrespect but what an awful post. Why exactly isnt Schenn a good prospect. The guy has dominated every level he's ever played at and was Canada's best ever player at the World Jr's last year.
Is it because he didnt make a very good Philly team that's already deep down the middle this year?
Get a clue
That could get Crawford fired from the TSN panel. He's worse than us, throwing out silly ideas like giving Schenn for Gonchar. maybe if Holmgren was trying to get fired...
No thanks... knowing Murray he'd trade away our 1st rounder to get him too.
Knowing it's not going to happen is one thing, but Schenn is an explosive talent and expected to be a top end player in this leauge. The question is, would Ottawa consider moving a D prospect such as Runblad, Borowiecki, Wiercioch, etc for Schenn. Would Philly even consider something like that? What makes it fun to talk about is how it would help with this rebuild.
I just read that site for comic relief.
Hope the boys have a big game tonight against the Pens.
OttawaSun is reporting Auld is getting the start tonight? True or False?
Younger brother to Kyle, really reliable defensively and can provide offensive punch. I don't see Condra sticking around to long with his limited potential, and wellwood would look great on our 3rd line with smith
Read #8 - Auld is in.
I wouldn't consider moving Rundblad for Schenn at this point, in my opinion Rundblad is just suffering from some confidence issues at this point and desperately needs to go down and rip it up in the AHL until the trade deadline, when we will hopefully make room on our blue line for him.... Someone like Weircioch or Boro plus Kuba or Gonchar, for Schenn and some salary would be something that I would look at if possible.
True. Post updated and mentioned it above.
Yep the Flyers are very content with they're D without Pronger. They have very solid D prospect and are happy with the youth!
Led by Timonen and Carle, follows, Meszaros, Cobourn, Lilja, Bourdon, Gustafsson and Marshall.
I think they will be just fine.
Speaking of the ol' puck-in-the-thr oat routine... I hope there are fireworks tonight eh? I hope we 'steel' on from Pittsburgh tonight....eh? eh? aaahhhhhhhh!!!! WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
EFFF YOU PENS!
~Peluso
(Vote Quimby...errr, Alfie)
Perfect!
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=377385
As for his prospect ranking, prior to this season he was considered the best prospect not in the NHL, so I'm not sure how that's not bluechip.
Hilarious
Right now, they're in a position of strength (based on their current streak) ao there's no way they will overpay for anyone, let alone Gonchar. If they go in a tail-spin, I'm still not sure Ottawa has the assets that would entice Philly to include Schenn. He is rated higher than any prospect Ottawa has, including the ones playing on Ottawa currently.
so good!
ok would we give up a Zibanejad for a player like Gonchar?
how ridiculous is that?
an underachieving overpaid overaged player, for another with huge potential.
Just laughable... but perhaps this would be a great time to negotiate a deal for Kuba.
He is playing much better defnesively, has had plenty of PP success, and they are tied to him for only this year, and have room b/c Pronger is on the IR for he rest of the year.
Murray should try to pitch something to Holmgren.
And Please people stop with Turris,
One question...WHY?
has proven nothing but a selfish attitude, and cannot back it up.
How is he any better than Filatov?
he's on the right continent, but that's about it
I like that Turris is further along in his development, however I think at this point in time Schenn is considered to have the higher ceiling. Both would fit well on the 2nd line C of this rebuild.
Hockey futures rated Schenn an 8.5C and Turris an 8.5B in their respective classes. Can't get much closer then that. What say you?
Schenn, in a heartbeat...
I agree, Runblad is someone I expect will be just as explosive as Karlsson offensively in a year or two. I wouldn't want to see him gone, I was just talking about what Philly would want. Honestly, I don't think they'd want anyone that still needs time to adjust anyway, they would want Mr Right now.
good point, but I wonder if that makes it any better :)
Might help re-ignite the battle of Ontario.
Gonchar MAY go there at the deadline.. IF the young D in Philly start to struggle. Gonchar is not the best defensively BUT with the players they have up front... he would make their PP almost unstoppable.
As for Murray giving up the Sens #1 pick this year... he won't... unless it was guaranteed to be in the 20 - 30th range... and we can guarantee that will not be the case.
IF Phoenix is going to trade Turris... it will be at a loss for them. I don't think he will get a 1st round pick for Turris.
Love the I like Nickelback comment! Just when I thought Alfie could do no wrong....
Milbury is an assistant coach of a hockey team and the victim was a player from the other team.
No other info.
But if true... that's rather sickening.
I don't care what the kid did -- you never hit, grab or anything else on a 12 yr old child.
Pitts is playing Johnson
we are rushing him right now, and he needs much more work to pick up his game.
Why do we tend to take so much time with most of of our D-men ie
Wiercoch
Lee
Gyrba
Yet we want to rush #7 right in there.
his game has digressed quite a bit from the start of the year, and he seems to want to role his play after Karlsson, and I do not see him in that role,
I would love for him to try and pattern his game more like a Lidstrom rather than a Karlsson as that is more of the game he can play.
After the injuries are back he could use some AHL time for sure
I completely disagree.
First off Wiercioch, Gryba and Lee were all worse dmen, a lot further back in their development.
Secondly, no one is rushing Rundblad, he's earned what he's gotten. Rundblad is on a good track. We obviously need him in the NHL right now with all the injuries, but even without them he is worthy of time in the NHL. Yes he could dominate in the AHL in big minutes, but I think PM & BM have a pretty solid plan in place for him. As for him regressing, it's more just part of the learning process with a young rookie Dman. He may get time in the AHL at some point, but it's not because he can't handle the NHL as a rookie. Remember they have to limit his games and mins this year, AHL or NHL.
He is very similar to Karlsson offensively, it's not how he's molding his game, those are his strengths! He's also way more physical then Karlsson. I think you're looking at a microcosm of his game instead of the overall product.
Milbury, another idiot, I hope its true and he goes to jail and meets little Jimmy in the showers...
You hope it's true that a kid got assaulted by an adult? Just so someone you don't like can suffer in jail. That's pretty cold!
by all means please disagree if you feel,
however as much as I loved Rundblad before he came here this year, when I take of my rose coloured glasses, which I do wear from time to time, he is NOT NHL ready by no means.
I am sure if you ask Anderson to give you an honest answer he would agree.
His game right now is pure and simply awful.
He is terrible in our own end (leads team in -8)
And is makng bad pinches and losing the puck at bad times.
Right now Lee is the better D-man... at this moment.
Don't get me wrong the upside on Rundblad is very high, but his confidence is low, and the bad habits are getting worse.
D-men take a bit longer to mature, and he has the added difficulty of learning to play on a smaller ice surfice which only adds to the learning curve... IMO of course
but I know there are many more that will agree with you.
Open mouth, insert foot... Yikes!
Considering the time he's spent in the SEL, spending time in the AHL would be a step back at this point. He just needs to get used to the speed of the NHL and needs to be in the NHL to do that. IMO of course...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFZY3fl1aTM&feature=player_embedded#!
Great video - highlights how dirty they are!! FAIL on the fan who created that one...
Hope Malkins 'rubs' Auld with Carkener on the ice
As for asking Anderson, if I could ask Anderson anything I'd ask him where the hell his A-game is, not which dman is most at fault for his failings. Though if a veteran were to blame a rookie, he's not much of a veteran.
"Conférence de presse à 18 h à la PBS avec Cyril Leeder pour une «annonce importante». Pas un nouveau tableau indicateur, toujours?"
Ummm, no thank you. Regin can keep the second line centre spot warm for Zibanejad next season.
Kyle Turris sucks.
Yup, they will announce the scoreboard today afterall. Great to hear this is finally getting done.
He deserves it if he hit a kid, what a moron!
I wonder if he used his shoe...?
Or someone else's...
I'm sure Karlsson went through the same thing.
'
I was there and this is what happened: He grabbed the JERSEY of a kid who repeatedly tried to start a fight with his son, and asked him what his problem was. It wasn't during a game, it was during a skills competitio n. This is going to get blown out of proportion because every body wants to think he's a maniac. I've known him for over 30 years and he's a family man, kind soul, and would NEVER ever hurt a kid.'
Not sure I agree with the last statement.. He could have just yelled at the kid.. he did not have to grab him.
Really blaming the goalie again???
C'mon guys how many goalies do we need to go through before we realize..IT IS NOT THE GOALIES!
C'mon guys how many goalies do we need to go through before we realize..IT IS NOT THE GOALIES!
Except sometimes it is... Everyone has an off night and Anderson has had a few. Combine that with a young and some would say past their prime (I'm looking at you Phillips) defence corps, and you have a (drumroll please), rebuilding team. It has been and will continue to be an entertaining season however...
Have to give @SensChirp some credit. He called a Friday announcement for a new scoreboard earlier this week.
Yeaaaa :)
So Elliot went from the worst goalie in the league with the Sens last year to the best with the Bluesovernight, by reading some goalies manual??
Of course not, Anderson is a great goalie with bad defense,
Elliot is an ok goalie with better defense...plain and simple
Rundblad cannot play in the NHL right now, but will be great one day, but right now he is really struggling, and I believe hurting his progress.
On the other hand I think missing Kuba (as I eat my words) has hurt our young D very much, as he has been one of our best D-men before he got hurt.
At this point Lee is further ahead in development and should not come out again, each game he is gaining confidence, and if he continues can be in our top 4 as a shutdown for the next few years.
Hillarious. They don't post when Sutton DESTROYED Leopold in the playoffs, only when they run spezza into the stanction or on a huge knee on knee.. Classic
About the Scoreboard heard through the grapevine its pretty awesome
Who cares he grabbed the kids jersey and yelled at him ..Relax people
He grabbed a kid by the cage and shook him.. he didn't grab his jersey
he also picked him up off the ground and dropped him
allegedly anyways..
Well done SC! grats man!
Probably not, but will be better than what we did have, that was pathetic!
The last game I was at, the scoreboard went out twice. Things were flashing, it was horrible. Super happy to hear it's being taken care of. And I'll be at the Calgary at the end of the month, looking forward to seeing it.
I found this from last February, but I'm not sure if its still accurate...
http://www.senstown.com/2011/07/new-scoreboard-leaked.html
1. Who hold the Oilers record for most shutouts in a career?
2. Who is the only player in NHL history to be drafted twice in the first round, by different teams, in different years? Hint, he's still playing in the NHL and is a D-Man.
3. Who was the first Swedish captain in NHL history?
4. The first official NHL draft commenced in 1969. From then until now, how many brothers have been picked in the 1st Round - 1st, 2nd, or 3rd overall? There are 4 pairs and 3 pairs were picked in different drafts.
5. What do Patrick Marleau, Eric Staal, Dan Boyle, Marc Savard and Nathan Horton all have in common? Hint: It's something they never did.
6. What former NHL player shares the exact same birth date as Mario Lemieux?
7. Who was the last goalie in the NHL to play without a mask?
8. Which of these superstars did NOT have a brother who also played in the NHL?
Gordie Howe•Mario Lemieux•Bryan Trottier•Patric k Roy•Ray Bourque
9. Three retired players have scored 50 or more career short-handed goals. One was Wayne Gretzky. Name the other two.
10. Two retired goalies are tied with the most goals against in a career (regular season) with 2756. Name one of them.
http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com/2009/03/top-ten-hockey-trivia-questions.html
Is it Brendan Witt? I seem to remember that...
What are you talking about ? Read something dont make it up ...grabbed his cage picked him up and dropped him ...what are you talking about ?
The Boston Herald reports that Milbury's son got into a tussle during a game and afterwards the former NHL player and general manager went onto the ice and "verbally berated and grabbed jersey and shook " the alleged victim.
1. Tommy Salo
2. Nick Boynton
3. Lars Erik Sjoberg
4.
5. Never been in a fight?
You're the Wiz, YOU'RE THE WIZZ!!!
Let's face it, Milbury makes Don Cherry look like a Mensa graduate.
Oh, and on Pronger?
Karma's a bitch...
signed Dean McAmmond.
Not blaming the goalie, but he's not getting a pass either. He hasn't brought his A-game consistently this year, and if you watch the games with a coach's eye you'll see that his positioning and rebound control is just slightly off. Any goalie who cannot steal a game here and there is really nothing special, and until Anderson can steal games from time to time, he's not free from critique.
Prior to the Boston game it looked like he was starting to gain his stride, hopefully it was just the quality of the competition that night.
It's confusing that you'd rather come down hard on a rookie instead of an under-performin g goalie though!
At the end of the day though, the Senators have had very few game breaking goalies over the years. Can't blame the fan base for that.
It always amuses me when people participate in idle speculation on a situation they know next to nothing about, or worse condemnations.
Sigh.
Mike Milbury's record speaks for itself.. Or maybe you don't watch CBC??
He's Mr. Bad Judgement...
2 minutes for calling him "Nicki"!
Now here's to hoping we score 1 or 2 more goals this period so we have a chance to win! Assuming that the Pens don't switch goalies in between periods, and we don't have another god damn cardiac arrest in the 3rd period, we may have a chance at taking this game.
Keep it up!
You're such a lame fan sometimes... Your comments during every game make you seem like your going through a rollercoaster of emotions. One minute you're singin their praises and that next you're bashing them.
Wow.. nice call..... God damn....
Now stay out of the box ffs boys.
Go Sens.
you called shite...:P
I wasn't bashing anybody.
I just called a potential collapse, and was right.
Still have faith in the team.
Go Sens Go.
http://www.lshunter.tv/index.php?option=com_lsh&view=lsh&event_id=74621&tid=229330&channel=0&tmpl=component&layout=popup&Itemid=327
Also, Cowen has been on the ice for all 5 of our goals!!
4 minutes on the ice during the first 40.
he's gonna lose even more ice time with those dangles he tries to do. The first one was nice, instead of going for another one, shoot the damn puck
That's the fuckin spirit.
I like how last time he tried to dangle, Alfie and Cowen both dropped back to our own blue line because everyone knew he was gonna give it up.
......
Fuck yeah Spezza!
thank you burke for saving us this pick, thank you sens mangemnet and scouts for this!
thats probably the dumbest thing i've heard in my life. In 3-4 years this pair will dominate the league during the pp.
Yeah, I agree with you that in 3-4 years they will be amazing.
But right now, all they do is give breakaways to the other team.
i agree! we should put phillips and carkner instead.
Yeah. They reviewed it pretty damn quick too.
Quoting MoeDozer:
I think you were being sarcastic... but Carkner has the team's hardest shot. And neither of them are breakaway machines like Karlsson and Runblad have been for the last ~6 games.
That's what I thought.
The guys in the "war room" probably scratched their bums and said what the hell, the Leafs lost, let's give the Sens another goal against.
I for sure will not buy for a second that that high stick was a good goal.
Oh well Sens win Leafs lose.
Also Congrats to Auldie for his first win of the season.!
We lost 5-2 too the bruins you moron ...and we beat a team with no crosby no staal no letang and fleury didnt start ...Congrats clap clap ...Here come the playoffs right ?1?
Spezza was phenomenal.
excuses excuses....
..and the lowly rebuilding Senators were playing their backup goalie and missing the league leading goal scorer and two veteran defencemen.
What's your point, moron?
lol thats cute win is a win but dont celebrate beating a team with there top end players are out ... We got 2 points from a weak pens team amazing next
uhh you said even with their injured players, they still have more talent than us and they will dominate us. we pretty much dominated the bruins most of the game just they are obviously the better and more experienced team. and why do you keep accusing me of believing we are a playoff team? i never ever said that im happy with making the playoffs or being a basement team, as long as at the end of the day we have gained experience and improved.
and for your information "moron", johnson is one of the best goalies against ottawa, prior to this game he was 8-1 against us now obivously 8-2.
Having to repeat myself to you makes me think your slow so take your mouse scroll up and read but take yout time so it sticks lol
So he is 8-1 now he is 8-2 ...thats a good step at least your good with numbers know image if you could understand hockey ..go back and look again I called 5-2 vs bruins moron
Nice dodge. Fail suits you.
if you are to call me a moron. atleast use you're... i dont understand when you use "your a moron".
p.s can you stop with the trolling? no one enjoys it and you have officially won the title of most hated on this site after beating Tookie who held down that title for MANY long years
I;m just sayin`
He may not register 20 goals or 40 assists, but Carkner again was a staple on defence. He's the perfect guy back there for this young D-core.
Can't say enough about how good he's played.
Decent goalie too!
if a player saves a shot like carkner did today does it count as a shot for malkin? and if it doesnt go in does it count as a save or blocked shot?
Thanks...
Great game tonight, GO SENS GO!
Only counts as a shot when it hits the goalie.
Solid games from cowen Karlsson and carkner
Our captain looks 20 out there
Spezza, sexy dangles as usual
Auld, I fricken love you for stopping that prick Matt cooke on a breakaway
And foligno got hit knee on knee, and the stupid asshole Cooke shot the puck at him hard while he was on the ground, stupid ass idiot
The best part of the game is when two piss drunk opposing team fans fought and the sens fan kicked his ass
GO SENS GO
PRAISE ALFIE!
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is there footage of this?
fail4nail is a fucking idiot
Of course it didn't dawn on you that OUR two key defencemen are and top scorer are out and we played our backup goalie. No, of course not. Don't start spouting garbage. Go back to Leafs Nation Nail.
IDIOT
FAIL$NAIL is a young fan, full of doom and gloom !!
I predicted that we (Sens ) would win 3 in a row, starting with Buffalo, then Bruins, and lastly the Pens.
Both Tookie and FAIL$NAIL thought we would lose all 3 games,
but we won 2 of 3 for 4 points out of 6 points!!
Auld finally gets his FIRST WIN as a starter !!
Bring on the Sabres next Tuesday at SBP !!
You ,young know it all, are the most illogical Sens Fan
on this SensChirp site!
You actually outshine and outthink Tookie, in your abysmal negative posting !
What a waste of space on such a great site !!
Guess I should have charged him.
We beat buffalo and gave the bruins a good go for 2 solid periods minus michalek on a back to back. the game was no blowout. We played for the win and it cost us, oh well move on.
Great win over the pens, it was the first sens game i've missed in year, every game this year has been great to watch. Hope i dont miss another.