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As Bob McKenzie mentioned on Twitter on Friday, the Sens search for a new head coach is beginning to ramp up. Interviews have already started and are expected to continue into next week. A name that has been tossed around a little bit lately is Pete DeBoer. The former Panther head coach is going to be a guy a few teams look at but the Sens are not one of those teams.
From what I have been told DeBoer will not be interviewed for the position.
Also, some news on one of the Sens prospects in Jakob Silfverberg. He has signed a three deal with the Ottawa Senators. The club was hoping to have him in North America next season but it sounds like he will spend another season over in Sweden. Silfverberg has indicated in the past that he doesn't think he's ready to make the jump just yet.
Another strong season in Sweden and he should be ready to make the jump to the NHL.
Entirely possible. I don't think he's too keen on the idea of playing in the AHL though.
Very high hopes I have for our next head coach to be and should be Ken Hitchcock. His exactly what this team could use. His discipline, Offensive and Defensive, He uses his players to the best of there abilities and gives the chances to the right ones in the right circumstances.
BSens in 5. Houston...You have a problem. Go BSens Go!
I'm going to have to disagree with you, Ken Hitchcock is a coach who's known to have conflicts with his players, see his fireing from dallas (apparently he and modano had a huge argument). His demanding style wears on the players and they eventually tune him out - i think history will only repeat itself if he comes to Ottawa I'm sure. Plus the guy can barely skate himself he's so fat. I know he won a cup with dallas and has a good record, but I think a guy like MacT would be a better fit for our team.
Even if he wanted to play in Bingo next year, it would be even worse down there in terms of forward depth. While no doubt he would be one of the best players down there. He would really hurt a few other guys development, maybe taking the place of someone like Stone.
GO BABY SENS1 win us a calder cup!
Silfverberg may feel he needs more seasoning in the SEL... that's okay -- how old is he 20 or 21?
BUT how can he learn the NA game (which is different) by playing in SEL?
I think he will need a few games in Bingo regardless whether it is this year or next year.
But at least they have him on the ELC.
You would think with Petersson coming over he would do the same. Maybe adding Landeskog (hopefully please) to the mix.. that would be quite a few players in Bingo from Sweden (at least on the short term)... as Petersson, Silfverberg, Landeskog, will start there to join Lehner.
Excited about next Sat's trip...
Do you think an extra 3 days off before the next game.. hurts the B-Sens in way of 'more' rust.. they still are not up to speed yet.
He's 20 but will turn 21 within 2011
I don't think he's the type of player who will benefit from any time in Bingo. He's already playing at a higher level, and by the end of next season I think he will have surpassed the skill level of the AHL.
AHL is for guys who:
- need to grow into their body
- are defencemen coming from overseas
- need to round out their game
- aren't good enough for NHL
- are goaltenders
Its not for skilled 2-way forwards who have spent 3 years developping in the SEL. He'll come to Ottawa and he'll sink or swim. If he sinks, he'll return to Sweden
PS. Huberdeau's better. I'd give our 6th, Silfverberg AND Petersson to get him. Landeskog, I would take with my #6 pick, but wouldn't dream of trading up to get him.
Speaking of which, memorial cup today! woo
If you are saying to move UP about 4 spots to get Huberdeau.. you would give up Sens 6th + BOTH Silfverberg & Petersson.
That's way too much to move up 4 spots.
It depends what Colorado has plans on doing...Murray did them a favour in taking Anderson to give them Elliott so they could lose games and get a higher pick. I'm not sure they would agree to move down to 6th.. but depends on what else Murray adds to that 6th pick... but it won't be both of those players.
I'm not sure how Petersson will fare in the NHL.. but Silfverberg could be a servicable player. Don't know where he will slide into the lineup... third line most likely at least to start.
Should be interesting to see what the Sens would have to give up to move up... but I think it would be more picks than prospects.
Ya I agree that does seem like a lot to move up 4 spots. I just can't help but notice all the redundancies in our system.
Silf is listed as a Centre, you say he could be a 3rd liner/fringe 2nd? He could be, but didn't we just sign DaCosta?
Petersson = not sure how he'll fare.. we already have Condra for that.
Taking Jakester's advice and waiting it out to see who falls in our lap is one way to do things. But I wouldn't advise that. you pick the player you want, not a player "you'd be happy with" and you go out and get him.
Maybe Hubby isnt at the top of BM's list, but he's at the top of mine, and Silf/petersson/ Landeskog don't even come close.
btw, petersson, IMO is worth less than a 5th rd.pick, so the deal could be:
6th ovr
silf
5th rd.
for 2nd overall, if that makes it look better for you (seems like an underpayment, if you ask me)
I Can see the Draft unfolding a bit like this
Oilers- Nugent-hop (Best player in the draft goes 1st overall), Avs - Larsson ( would be foolish to pass up on him from what i've heard),Panthers - Huberdeau/ Landeskog (depends on preference of panthers management I'd guess)
Devils-Huberdeau/Landeskog (whichever panthers leave them),NYI- Dougie Hamilton ( They need D, and Hamilton brings a big body that would fit beauty especially with his offensive capabilities)
That leaves The possibility of the Sens drafting Couturier or Ryan Strome - Either of which I would be more than happy to have on my team, it's not worth a solid prospect(that's what it would take) to move up for a player that may be only slightly better than the player you would draft otherwise.
Sens will be fine at 6
That would give the sens 2 high flying forward prospects. This is the way I hope it goes.
With Boston in the finals, the pick we got for Chris Kelly will be, what, 60th or 61st, I think.
I'll never be too pissed about the Kelly deal; it was certainly good for HIM to be somewhere useful before he passes his prime and we needed to unload contracts.
That being said, I still think we didn't get full value, something that I'm not even sure was possible with a player like Kelly.
Elias Spezza MM9
Greening Courtuier Alfie
I also know we grabbed Gonchar last year but I was thinking how awesome would it be if we snagged Markov away from Mtl are powerplay would be on real just a thought not proposal or anything 1unit gonchar Markov 2 unit karlsson and runblad whaaa
Not only are we getting legit information, but our focus isn't pointed to the past. The 6th Sens sound like a bunch of leafs fans complaining.
He will go with Cowen & Rundblad -- unless they have such a hard time one or both will go to Bingo to develop. They will fill their spots with D Smith, Hale (if still in Bingo) or Benoit for the short term.
Never thought of a deal with NJ. Even going to 6th is 2 places up on where they would be drafting. IF Murray can take a salary dump maybe they would do that. Sens would have to add like a 2nd or 3rd draft pick.
Patrick Elias would be a good choice for that top 6 forward. He has a 6M cap hit for the next 2 seasons.
But could you convince Lou to give up Travis Zajak? He could be that 2nd line centre the Sens are looking for. But it would take more than 2 draft picks to get either of those players.
I can hardly wait for the draft. It's going to be interesting viewing indeed.
Do you see lots of trades at this draft? That makes it even more exciting.
here's hoping that the nyi pick a defenseman. i dont see why they wouldn't, they have good young forwards. could use an extra high end defenseman prospect to go along with calvin de haan.
in terms of free agency, i honestly wouldnt mind seeing Gagne on the first line potentially besides Spezza next season. he had a pretty good playoffs. if we can get him for a reasonable price, he would be a nice signing.
28 DAYS UNTIL THE DRAFT!
Big body and a leader.
But just because his team did not advance in the playoffs... he's now not worth it?
I don't think he is any less a player than he was.
Huberdeau is a great prospect on a stacked team. He has skill there is no doubt.. but unless Ottawa can trade up to 2nd to grab him... he won't be an Ottawa Senator.
Question is, does Ottawa stay at 6th and draft who falls to that spot AND concentrate on trying to move up with the 21st pick as high as they can?
Interesting to note Landeskog's recent slide.
In my opinion, moving up in this draft isn't worth it. Whoever we draft, is going to be a great prospect for the franchise moving forward. I wouldn't want to give up that 21st pick, too. Whoever we draft there could end up being a great prospect as well. Tyler Ennis for example, was a 26th pick, Marcus Johansson, a 24th.
One player isn't worth two good one's. Too much would be riding on this one prospect [Landeskog] of developing into the player that the sens would want him to be.
I don't like it.
I don't think this is the case. I think the Lando believers on here out number the Huberdites for sure.
"Huberdeau is a great prospect on a stacked team"
Actually, he's the best player on a stacked team. and one of the youngest. Nobody (and I mean nobody) knew who he was at the start of the season, and now he's going 2nd or 3rd in most mock drafts.
Landeskogs slide doesn't have much to do with his playoffs. he had a great showing. it has to do with the fact that he was OverRanked at the beginning of the season, and better players played their way ahead of him.
and I want one of those better players!!!
You may be right on that.
If Sens want a player.. they will trade up to get him... just like they did with Karlsson. Problem is that team above them will have to want to move down.
What do the Sens have to part with in way of a roster player or prospect with the 6th overall to move up.
Murray's scouts have their list.. would be interesting to get a peak.
NJ isn't in THAT bad of cap shape. If the cap moves up 3 mil, they can match any offer sheet and still be able to sign a back-up goalie + 2 defence (all they need)
If I were them, I would package their 1st round pick with Zubrus for a lower 1st rounder and a prospect (21st + wiercioch?).
Zubrus is a waste of money, and if they can move him, they will be fine.
I don't think they want to trade Elias
Most likely trade up would have to be with Florida. And hope to God COL takes Larsson (assuming RNH goes #1).
I don't think it would take much to get FLA's pick, cause honestly I dont think Florida has any kind of plan for their hockey team. BM could surely convince them to move down 3 spots if he tosses in a couple of "attractive" add-ons
I really don't know what difference 3 spots is going to make to their terrible terrible team.
Cherapanov was a Russian player. A lot of teams shy away from drafting these young kids because of the KHL.
Maybe not looking to trade elias but with all Kovy Parise Elias all down the left side why not try he'd be a perfect fit with spezza and he only has 2 years left at 5 million left on his deal steal
ya, he's also 35 years old, and we haven't had too much luck with those guys in the past.
He had a pretty good season last year, but he's pretty much at the coin-flip stage of his career. could go either way from now on.
True.
Hahah in that case maybe Vladislav Namestnikov will be a slider and sens can pick him at 21
35 is a little older for not a phyiscal player more skilled it isn't that old ... But if Murray could work a deal I'd take that coin flip for 2 years or call cliff in minny and see what will take too bring marty havlat HOME
Greening Spezza Alfie.
MM9 Couturier Havlat. Or mm9 huberteau havlat
That's not his game. He's a solid checker, and he'll probably be a very good 3rd line player in the NHL for a long time.
It's the same thing fans did with Regin coming into this year. Regin is not skilled enough to be a 2nd line player on a good NHL team. He was completely miscast coming into this season.
Butler will play in the top-6 for sure, but not Greening. They need a top notch LW for Spezza, and NO THANKS Patrik Elias. They are trying to make the team younger, I kind of thought that would be obvious by now, but I guess not.
And Murray will get one of the high-end forwards at the draft, he'll move up if necessary.
Ideal scenario would be the Sens drafting an NHL ready prospect [Landeskog,RNH, Couturier, *maybe* Huburdeau], signing a top 6 ufa, and resigning Bobby Butler already!
Its not a miscasting if u can drive him with talent and he becomes a top 6 and showed alot playing with spezza big body infront of the net compare lucic to greening in 3 years and that's not miscasting lucic scored 8 17 then 9 now 30 and he was told he was a 3 rd line checker and greening scored 6 in 24 games
Greening's a solid third line winger. Big body, can skate, can also score.
Essentially, he's a guy who can play all four lines, really.
But I'd like to see a stronger top 6 next season. As much as I like Greening. I would love to see him on the first line, but that would be asking too much of him to consistently score goals. We need a legit first line sniper/scorer.
I agree he can play on all 4 lines but if butler should be top 6 greening should be there 2 for all those reasons you posted size speed and can score greening only had 4 less goals in 12 less games then butler
Okay then use last year's draft as a basis. Cam Fowler dropped from 4th-5th to 12th. Also, Emerson Etem dropped from about 10-13th all the way to 29th. While Russians are the most popular to focus on being sliders, it's not solely them who slide.
I don't think anybody suggested a 6th + 21st to move up a few spots.. did they?
I would do
6th + late 2nd (or Silfverberg) For 3rd overall
and then
21st + 35th (?) + Wiercioch for 4th overall
... I would draft Huberdeau and Phillips with those picks
See: tonights game.
two centers
one winger
one goaltender
one pick traded to move another one up in the order.
Although Murray has gone on record for saying that he always will take the best player available, I'm hoping he sees that we already have about 20 defensemen in our pipeline.
Also, Murray will take the best prospect available, NOT the most NHL ready prospect. We aren't going to win the cup next year so there's no harm in having our #1 pick spend another year in the CHL.
I'd love to see the Sens get a top 5 pick without the expense of the 6th overall... I saw something like Foligno, Weiroch and 21st overall to Florida for 3rd
Either that or keep the Swedish tradition alive (Landeskog, Viktor Rask)
As for a Jersey trade, most draft day trades only involve picks, unless its a blockbuster trade like Pronger's a couple of years ago. Moving up to fourth would probably cost us the sixth overall, our second round pick and a later round pick.
I have full confidence in Murray's drafting ability, so I'll be happy with whatever he chooses to do.
We already have enough centremen this is what we neeed.
one centre
two wingers
one goaltender
Like someone up top mentioned Floride would be the best bet to give their pick out of those 5.
I don't have anything against Landeskog but I think we should draft a center even if he was available. If you look around the NHL all elite teams have a strong Center lineup whether it's SJS, BOS, DET, PIT, PHI, TB, etc, etc. If BM manages to move up our 21st pick i really think he should pickup Jamie Oleksiak, the kid is 19 years old, 6'7" 240 Pounds and he's 19! Some people might say we already have defensive prospects but you can never have enough D. Imagine him alongside our already promising D corps.
I think Havlat is great a great player, but I wouldn't touch him with bubble-wrap gloves. He's way too fragile. We don't need another Leclair taking up cap space and a medical examination table.
Everybody else is alllll over it.. Let us hear you mock draft scenarios.
-What would you do with #6?
-Would you move up from 21/35?
-Which players in our system (Ottawa/Bingo/O verseas) do you consider expendable/redu ndant/valuable as trade bait?
-How many forwards/Dee/Go alies in first 2 rounds?
-Who would you just LOVE to land with any of our picks?
We gotta know Chirp!
Huberdeau was once in our sight but seems to have moved out of Ottawas reach ranking around 3 these days, I would def take him at 6 but I would not trade up to get him.
Couturier seems to be our most likely candidate at this point and would be a great selection and 2nd line centre but I would still prefer Landeskog left of Spezza for next season.
As for expendable forwards I would part with Regin and Foligno if the price is right. Winchester can stay or go at his price tag but I expect Smith to take over his 4th line role making him redundant.
I've actually been workin on a Mock Draft for the Top 10 picks. Might try to get that up today. May not answer all of those questions but some of them.
But why? Its the 2nd best League in the world, according to some. LOL
Your kidding right?
Put any of the OHL/WHL/QMJHL playoff champs vs any team in the AHL playoffs and you would have a CHL win.
Further along their Dev yes, but most AHL'ers stay in the AHL for a reason. Look how long Denis Hamel has been developing, LOL, or Corey Locke.
Guys that dont need development, make the jump from Junior. Not the AHL.
The only reason these jumpers go to the AHL is for injury rehab or while the team makes room for them.
A CHL championship team might have the same but would certainly lack the depth of NHL prospects. I know I am bored at work when I am entertaining you.
Those "NHL prospect" might never play NHL so its invalid, the AHL is the NHL's toilet. A Junior team with its young stars is much better than a AHL team with its unwanted NHL 3rd and 4th liners.
They developed in Europe because they are European. If they were NA they would have developed in the AHL.
Getzlaf and Perry started off in the AHL fyi
Trollkie loses again, congratulations on being a complete idiot troll.