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		<title>Deadline Looms for Murray</title>
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			<title>frankiefives says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40378</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I LOL at most of the posts I've just finished reading. You people call yourself fans and yet you prefer to trade a guy who's been GREAT for this team all season rather than hope for a playoff run. I have only one thing in response: FACEPALM!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>frankiefives</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:23:44 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>darthsens911 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40318</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Vermette for Curtis McElhinney, 2nd, and 5th... wow]]></description>
			<dc:creator>darthsens911</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:20:00 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>mooyootoo says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40292</link>
			<description><![CDATA[There seems to be 2 camps here: trade Kuba 'cause we're gonna lose anyway, or keep Kuba because he makes EK better. Has anyone considered that it might be Karlsson that's making Kuba look good? What if we could toss another legit everyday-NHLer in there, would EK look worse? I sincerely doubt it. EK's skills are EK's skills, and I have a hard time believing that Kuba's making him look good with his shutdown prowess - Kuba's never really been known for his defensive game, the assumption that he's giving Karlsson more freedom on the ice by being steady just seems a bit simplistic. I think you can plug that hole with another steady, mobile NHLer and still have a top D pairing.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>mooyootoo</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:30:42 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Sensnation says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40282</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Miguel, great point. Kuba is a typical "perform for a new contract" type of player. I wish more fans would remember this! Kuba is in that category just like a VERY hight number of other NHL players in the league. It's a very typical Hockey Pool scenario to look at when you are taking a gamble on drafting player. Contract years are almost ALWAYS a good gamble, because players have a good history of upping the level of play, looking for a new contract. Kuba is not alone in that... just look at EK, it's his contract year!!! I think you're missing the difference. Every player should try their best in their contract years, of course that is a given, it's just smart business. But certain players almost ONLY show up during contract years. Kuba is in the latter category.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sensnation</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:02:11 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>MethotToMyMadness says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40279</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Miguel, great point. Kuba is a typical "perform for a new contract" type of player. I wish more fans would remember this! Kuba is in that category just like a VERY hight number of other NHL players in the league. It's a very typical Hockey Pool scenario to look at when you are taking a gamble on drafting player. Contract years are almost ALWAYS a good gamble, because players have a good history of upping the level of play, looking for a new contract. Kuba is not alone in that... just look at EK, it's his contract year!!!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MethotToMyMadness</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:58:41 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>miguel says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40278</link>
			<description><![CDATA[thank you Sensation, I just remember how badly we wanted him gone last year, and absolutely no one wanted him at all, or he was gone. Granted he is much better this year, but not a Stanley Cup winning difference, so if the price is right, we should strongly consider it, because some rich dumb GM will give him another overpaid contract, for a couple of years... IMO of course]]></description>
			<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:58:05 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Sensnation says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40274</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Miguel, great point. Kuba is a typical "perform for a new contract" type of player. I wish more fans would remember this!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sensnation</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:51:46 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>miguel says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40272</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ So I'm guessing you've never had to come back from a broken leg and play in the NHL? Yes after a horrible year -30, Kuba comes back ready to redeem himself after working out in the offseason...ste ps on the ice catches a rut, and breaks his leg????? Really??? out for 10 weeks??? Sounds like someone who still has 2 years and 8 mil left on his contract and is very comfortable. Now he decides to step it up... Why? Foligno too had a broken leg and came back sooner, and better!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:47:11 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Sensnation says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40271</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Wrong. He simply said it was "unlikely" and that a team would have to "overpay" to get him... Which is what teams have done thus far for D-Men... 2 picks and prospect/roster player is OVERPAYMENT for Kuba. Exactly, anyone coming with an offer greater than a 2nd round pick is overpaying and thus the offer should be entertained.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sensnation</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:41:14 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Tookie says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40269</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Wrong. He simply said it was "unlikely" and that a team would have to "overpay" to get him... Which is what teams have done thus far for D-Men... 2 picks and prospect/roster player is OVERPAYMENT for Kuba.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tookie</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:29:21 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>hq8 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40266</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Wrong. He simply said it was "unlikely" and that a team would have to "overpay" to get him... Murray was on Hockey Central at Noon and strongly hinted that Kuba won’t be going anywhere. Smart move in my opinion. Thats from Chirp's blogpost above. Sure doesn't sound like tendency to trade. Sounds like he is talking about a core player on his team that a team would have to vastly overpay for because he is setting the bar way too high for Kuba - a first rounder. And please guys, stop comparing this to the overpayments being made for Grossman, Kubina, Quincy and Gill. The picks traded for those guys will be picks at the back end of their respective rounds. Detroit's first rounder is going to be #29 or #30 because Detroit is slamdunk for president's trophy this year. Ottawa cannot get a mid-rounder (10th to 20th overall in the league) for Kuba because there are no teams in that range that need a guy like him. Name one, I don't know of any with defensive issues. Murray in an ideal situation probably wants one of the bubble teams ranked #20 to #30 overall, who still believe they have a shot to make the playoffs to overpay for Kuba. That won't happen, because at the very least all GM's are just as smart as Bryan Murray at making trades and that is a FACT.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>hq8</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:20:25 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>RUSHRLZ says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40262</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Wrong. He simply said it was "unlikely" and that a team would have to "overpay" to get him...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>RUSHRLZ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:10:49 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40262</guid>
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			<title>Sensnation says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40261</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ That is not what Murray said. He admitted that the market is currently overpaying for dmen and then said he would trade him if he was overpayed. In other words he could trade him if the market remains where it is. That's a far way off from "I won't trade Kuba".]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sensnation</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:10:47 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40261</guid>
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			<title>Sensnation says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40260</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ If Phillips is making 3mil, you can be damn sure Kuba will be wanting at least that too. His stock is as high as it's ever going to be, it can only get LOWER!!! He's not going to pot 70points next year.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sensnation</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:08:07 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>hq8 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40259</link>
			<description><![CDATA[why are we discussing the Kuba trade or no-trade when Bryan Murray already said he is not going to trade him? Right now, Kuba is playing on avg 23:30 mins per game. he has 22pts, +18 in 52 G, 9 PP points, is playing about 3:01 minuts in SH TOI/game. has two SH assists also. Plays about 1:49 minutes in PP TOI/game. Right now on the WHOLE TEAM, he is only behind Karlsson in TOI. He also takes the most # of Shifts/Game. So for him to be let go, someone has to bascially become the #2 D-man on this Ottawa Senators team. and that kind of replacement can only come through some crazy blockbuster trade at this time, that is sure to cost ottawa some forward depth. Like it or not guys, the team and the team's coaching staff, ownership and management wants to make the playoffs and does not believe that any of the other Ottawa roster D or Carkner or the three D-men in Bingo (Gryba, PW, BoroCop) can replace Kuba in a fashion which does not impact team success for the next 21 games. As far as maximising Kuba as an asset and getting value for him, Ottawa has no choice but to sign him in the offseason to a trade and cap attractive short term deal that works for him too and then trade him sometime next season. To insure against him possibly being an impact player next year, Ottawa will have to make sure that atleast one of the three guys in Bingo are ready to play 20+ minutes on the night OR sign a 20+ minute playing top 4D that they know will work with Karlsson.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>hq8</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:06:38 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40259</guid>
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			<title>Sensnation says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40258</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I just can't wrap my head around this way of thinking. Guess fans just approach the game and supporting their team in different ways. Regardless, clear we won't find common ground in this debate. :) Chirp, I think the big difference in the two sides is the ones who still want to get rid of Kuba know he's being overvalued this year. Sure he looks good out there and has put up some points, but he's still not that great of a Dman, and definitely not someone you want on your 1st pairing. He's not going to get any better, so the best thing for all parties would be to make sure we get a return from him instead of waiting till he gets injured again or falls apart in the playoffs. Murray and others in the organization have hinted all year that 1 dman in Bingo is pretty much nhl ready. I don't know if it's Boro or Wiercioch, but either way I'd rather get a return for Kuba (especially at the ridiculous prices being paid right now) and let Lee and one of those kids get their playoff experiences in this year as prep for next season. At the end of the day Kuba is not going to make or break our playoff run this year, and though I understand the whole reward the veterans angle, we'd be better off trading Kuba and bringing in someone else who would be here beyond this season.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sensnation</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:06:05 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40258</guid>
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			<title>RUSHRLZ says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40257</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for clarifying Apostle, that must have flew over my head somehow. If that is the case Hax would be right, the market would be entirely different come July 1st and hard to say what if any "trade value" he would have simply for his rights.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>RUSHRLZ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:04:01 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>MethotToMyMadness says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40256</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Murray won't be trading Kuba - no team is going to offer anything simply for Kuba's negotiating rights for a few days. Are you kidding me Hax, how can you say something like that? The clock is ticking and teams are quickly getting MORE desperate for that piece to put them over the top... here is what has already transpired the past couple weeks: Grossman, RFA, 6pts, +1 for a 2nd + 3rd round pick Quincey, RFA, 23 pts, -1 for a 1st plus prospect Kubina, UFA, 11 pts, +1 for a 2nd, 4th, prospect Gill, UFA, 9 pts, -5 for a 2nd, Geoffrion + prospect What would this guy fetch? Kuba, UFA, 22pts +18 I would consider Murray a retard to flip Kuba for a 3rd or something, but he is smart and already put word out a team would need to "overpay" for Kuba. What if someone came offering a mid first-round pick a third and a strong defensive prospect? It's Murray's job to listen, and listen he will. It all comes down to what is offered that dictates whether it makes sense to move him, especially given he is likely to not be here next year. What happens, happens and in Murray we trust, but it's rubbish to not acknowledge that we may get a very strong offer for him. I think you are right with what Kuba could be worth, never looked at it stat wise. While I do think BM will do what he said, hold on to Kuba, it would be hard not to move him if someone overpaid.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MethotToMyMadness</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:02:07 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40256</guid>
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			<title>The Apostle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40255</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Murray won't be trading Kuba - no team is going to offer anything simply for Kuba's negotiating rights for a few days. Are you kidding me Hax, how can you say something like that? Rush, the point was made that Kuba could be traded AFTER the season has finished but prior to July 1st. In that scenarion, I think Hax is right, who would trade for Kuba's negotiating rights? Teams would just wait until July 1 and see what happens.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>The Apostle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:01:14 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40255</guid>
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			<title>RUSHRLZ says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40253</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ In Murray we trust. I don't object to moving him at the deadline if the value is right and I also don't object to resigning him for next year. edit: he is getting up in years and I would guess after a strong season he would be looking for at least a 2 year contract.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>RUSHRLZ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:58:03 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>MethotToMyMadness says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40249</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Just listend to Dean Brown on the Team, he said exactly what I just said in my last post. He talked about why Ottawa wouldn't want to sign Kuba after this season. He's upped his level of play, he's built great chemistry with EK and he would not demand close to the 3.7 M he's getting now. I know he's in a contract year and playing his heart out to prove himself, but if he's only signed to a 1 year after this year, he'll have to play his heart out again, if he plans to continue beyond that. So I don't see any problem with signing a 35 year old with proven experience. Again, we'd have the ability to move him next year if something comes up that BM can't ingore. Honestly, his stock can only get higher, pending injury.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MethotToMyMadness</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:56:56 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>RUSHRLZ says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40248</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Murray won't be trading Kuba - no team is going to offer anything simply for Kuba's negotiating rights for a few days. Are you kidding me Hax, how can you say something like that? The clock is ticking and teams are quickly getting MORE desperate for that piece to put them over the top... here is what has already transpired the past couple weeks: Grossman, RFA, 6pts, +1 for a 2nd + 3rd round pick Quincey, RFA, 23 pts, -1 for a 1st plus prospect Kubina, UFA, 11 pts, +1 for a 2nd, 4th, prospect Gill, UFA, 9 pts, -5 for a 2nd, Geoffrion + prospect What would this guy fetch? Kuba, UFA, 22pts +18 I would consider Murray a retard to flip Kuba for a 3rd or something, but he is smart and already put word out a team would need to "overpay" for Kuba. What if someone came offering a mid first-round pick a third and a strong defensive prospect? It's Murray's job to listen, and listen he will. It all comes down to what is offered that dictates whether it makes sense to move him, especially given he is likely to not be here next year. What happens, happens and in Murray we trust, but it's rubbish to not acknowledge that we may get a very strong offer for him.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>RUSHRLZ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:54:45 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40248</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40247</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ So I'm guessing you've never had to come back from a broken leg and play in the NHL?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:50:00 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40246</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I see your side of it as well, but I think of it this way: The chances that whatever pick we get for Kuba meaning cup/no-cup is very, very slim. I think it's outweighed by the also very, very slim chance we have this year with him PLUS the added experience for all our young players getting in a playoff push and some playoff games way ahead of schedule. Yeah we won't have an extra Shane Prince-type player but all the guys we do have will be further developed by having been around this spring. I fully expect Murray to have guys like Gryba, Da Costa, Petersson etc as "black aces" during the playoffs and down the stretch so they can get a taste of what it means. That to me is more valuable than an extra pick. Not to mention the poor message it sends to the team which would be something like "yeah you have no shot this year so I'm dumping our #2 D for a pick".]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:47:54 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>miguel says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40245</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I would like to chime in AGAIN on Kuba. yah I know sigh!!!! as some mentioned, we tried desperately to get rid of him last year, truth is at minus 100 over two years and paying him 8 Mil no one would touch him even for nothing. Now he is in his CONTACT year, and possibly his last chance at a contract in the NHL, and he decides to play his best hockey in 3 years... coincendence? I think not, I think he plays ONLY for Filip Kuba and is not a team player. Fast forward to this year, where he does have some value, and now we argue hs is too valuable to trade? Really, he is the reason we are winning games? Yes his numbers are better, and he is playing better, but for the love of God, I cannot think that Kuba will be the difference in winning a Stanley Cup. Yes I do agree with the argument that he is our rental for this year, and we should keep him if only offered a low draft pick. And we had better lose him in the summer, and not pay what some dumb teams will overpay for his services (ie Rangers) But if the right deal were to come our way, we would be insane to to consider taking the trade. Now people are saying lets move Gonchar, as irony would have it he is this years version of Kuba, and cannot be moved... but if he has a great year next year, would we want to move him???, That is the question of the day...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:44:19 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>The Apostle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40244</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think the fact that Rundblad is no longer with the organisation removes the formality that was Kuba leaving. There is no longer the huge log jam on the blueline we were experiencing earlier this year and we do not have an outstanding prospect in Bingo waiting to fill any gap. I still believe that it is more likely that Kuba isn't around for the start of next season, but I have been saying sice the Turris deal that I can see a logical course of events that end up with Kuba signing a new 1 year deal, especially if we lose another blueliner between now and the trade deadline. The key is whether Murray believes any of Borowiecki, Gryba and WireCock are ready to play significant minutes next year. If the answer to that question is yes then Kuba goes.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>The Apostle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:43:35 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40244</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40243</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Kuba is THIRTY FIVE YEARS OLD. He's not coming back next year unless we're really doing a crappy job of getting our young D ready for the NHL. Of course if somehow Gonchar moves out or if Lee gets packaged in a deal with no D coming back then maybe. But otherwise he's not coming back. Phillips, Gonchar - running out their contracts Karlsson, Cowen - building blocks Lee - should be another building block IMO That leaves one spot for Gryba, Wiercioch, Borowiecki etc to fight over. No room for Kuba.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:43:24 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40243</guid>
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			<title>Tcharger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@had....I see where you are coming from in regards to him being our rental...but(an d this was ignored last time) reverse the situation we are one player away from being the favorite for the cup....why do we no longer owe it to the guys that have played hard on our team or in the minors to let them have their run. Nobody would be losing sleep over.losing a role player and a pick to get a star.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tcharger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:40:06 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Sentaur says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40241</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I have two in Section 312 row A. Sens shoot twice. For the game on Sunday against the Islanders. Selling below face. Please email if interested. /end derail!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sentaur</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:37:57 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40241</guid>
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			<title>The Apostle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40240</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ the protocol is that I give you my address and you send them to me free of charge.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>The Apostle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:34:16 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40240</guid>
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			<title>Sentaur says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40239</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Off topic but what's the protocol here if I have some Sens tickets that I am trying to get rid of? Don't want to break any of the rules. Cheers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sentaur</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:33:24 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40239</guid>
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			<title>hq8 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40238</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I just heard the leafs are trading for Ray Emery...... ok, lets be realistic. Johanesen AND Carter for Grabo and Schenn? are you kidding me? at this point, they'd be lucky if they could get even one piece out of any team for Luke Schenn. Unfortunately, the leafs have royally fucked up what was a really good defensive prospect in Schenn. Grabo is UFA. Johansen is a non-starter in any trade talk with CBJ, this was said a long time ago when the Rick Nash silly season started. Carter looks like he will stay with CBJ because the rumors have been weak about him and the same could also be said about Nash. IMO, the league is way too close this year. All teams making the playoffs are going in with a decent chance, and it should be a fun playoffs i think because of that. Therefore, every team has a resistance in jumping for those two names in CBJ. My bet is that if Nash/Carter deals dont get done by deadline time, CBJ dumps its current management and both Carter/Nash stay in CBJ. Which is probably the right thing to do I think. All those stupid pundits that keep saying Nash absolutely needs to be traded are just stupid pundits. I think something is up in CBJ that people don't know the full picture about. How can a GM be allowed to trade elite players like Nash and Carter so easily? These are players you build a team around. CBJ this late in the season should be happy as hell because they will be a lottery team. They could add another deadly piece to what is on paper a lethal combination of Nash, Johansen, Carter, and Brassard. What they need is a good coaching change, just like our beloved senators, some nice solid draft picks to add to the positivity. someone like Karlsson (but there are none like him lol) and steve mason seems like a decent goalie so they have the Anderson parallel over there.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>hq8</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:32:41 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40238</guid>
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			<title>MethotToMyMadness says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40237</link>
			<description><![CDATA[thumbs down this comment all you want, I'm trying to understand why everyone thinks Kuba will not re-sign next year, or better yet, why BM would just let him walk? If Murray expects to keep him for a playoff run and we exceed our playoff expectations, and Kuba is a big part of that. Do you not think Ottawa would consider a 1 year deal with him? I would expect Kuba would accept it, hands down, he knows where this team is headed, he'd be stupid to consider the free agent market if he's sure to get top 4 minutes on an emerging team. Then we'd at least have the opportunity mid season next year to evaluate and trade him, which would more than likely still result in the same value, a 2nd or 3rd round pick, instead of just letting him walk away at the end of the season. I'd rather see Murray take the chance on someone who's been one of our more consistent D this season, than Carkner who's having a hard time making a regular start on this team. I think we can all agree Kuba has played better than Carkner. I understand the current salary is a 3M difference, but I wouldn't see Kuba being signed for more than 1.5 or 2M if he's given another year which is more than managable and what a top 4 D man usually goes for in this league. knowing the future of this team and being given a chance to sign 1 more year, I think Kuba would take it. My reason for thinking this way, I don't see any of our top 3 Bingo D, Borowiecki, Gryba or Wiercioch doing a better job than Kuba or playing more minutes than he has done to date. It's not to say they aren't ready for the jump, as I'm sure Murray believes at least one of them would be, but I'd expect Carkner would be the odd man out who doesn't get re-signed, and if he does it's a two way deal, meaning he'll be replacing whoever comes up from Bingo. At least he'll get to play at a constant pace.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MethotToMyMadness</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:31:07 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40237</guid>
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			<title>stevrock says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40236</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Don't worry Johne - there is a 0.0001% chance Kuba resigns and that would only be if Murray feels that none of the Bingo D are ready to break in next year (which is doubtful). Even then, it would be better to resign Carkner or pick up some other short-term d-man. I would rather Kuba resign. It is of my opinion that our d-men in Bingo are not ready for the NHL, judged by the sheer amount of goals against. Keep Kuba for another year, and focus on shut down d-men during this draft, when Kuba and Gonchar's contracts expire they will be ready to step in. That or we let Kuba walk and make a move for Suter.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>stevrock</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:27:58 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40236</guid>
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			<title>Sensnation says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40235</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I did not see anyone mention it yet, but Murray said in the interview that he was trying to get Grossman but the requested return was a prospect he wasn't willing to give up. When he found out he was traded for a 2nd and a 3rd Murray sounded like he was surprised he went that cheap. I think if we still had our 2nd this year, we might have gotten him. Between that and the rest of the interview, I really think we will see a move or two. Murray definitely is looking for a cheap 4th or 5th D, and still wants that winger.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sensnation</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:27:19 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40235</guid>
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			<title>St Nick says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40234</link>
			<description><![CDATA[But why wouldn't Murray try & move three other UFAs who are as important to the team such as Konopka, Winchester (injured) & Auld for some late round picks at least. Lehner could easily replace Auld & O'Brien has already replaced Konopka & Winchester. Then there are some pending RFAs that may or may not return in Regin (injured), Daugavins & Lee who are playing alright. I understand the chemistry but some of these guys are not playing.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>St Nick</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:23:17 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40234</guid>
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			<title>spezzerman says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40233</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ twitter The wiz from team 1200, retweet hmm, yeah I see that. Well, Gord Stellick isnt saying anything himself publicly at this point, on twitter anyway. Holding out hope there is nothing to this. thanks for sharing that gauts26!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>spezzerman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:22:02 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40233</guid>
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			<title>gauts26 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40232</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ twitter The wiz from team 1200, retweet]]></description>
			<dc:creator>gauts26</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:15:19 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40232</guid>
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			<title>spezzerman says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40231</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !! I disagree, this would be a fine deal for Toronto with their depth on NHL ready D. I hope it doesnt happen Have to remember Grabovski is a UFA at the end of the season. No way this is enough to land Carter and Johansen. 100% agree. this is likely a false twitter rumour. please, please please be fake.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>spezzerman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:12:02 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40231</guid>
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			<title>Smash_88 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40230</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !! The Leafs? No Columbus would be out to lunch to do that deal... Burke would and should make that deal any day any time...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Smash_88</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:09:21 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40230</guid>
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			<title>boom says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40229</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !! Are you kidding? That would be a great trade for Toronto. Chirp is right - can't see Johansen being included.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>boom</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:09:11 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40229</guid>
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			<title>spezzerman says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40228</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@gauts26 - where did you read that? I only ask because there are fake gord stellick twitter accounts out there.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>spezzerman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:09:08 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40228</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40227</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !! I disagree, this would be a fine deal for Toronto with their depth on NHL ready D. I hope it doesnt happen Have to remember Grabovski is a UFA at the end of the season. No way this is enough to land Carter and Johansen.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:08:11 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40227</guid>
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			<title>frankiefives says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40226</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !! What??? If Columbus offered this as a deal, the Leafs would be crazy not to jump all over it. Grabo is a UFA at year's end and Schenn is average. You get a first line center to play with Kessel AND a top notch prospect in return... I seriously doubt Columbus would make this deal]]></description>
			<dc:creator>frankiefives</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:07:15 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40226</guid>
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			<title>Tookie says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40225</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !! If this is true, its a great trade for the Leafs. And if the Playoffs started today we would be playing the Bruins, which we are 0-3 this year... http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20112012&type=PLA]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tookie</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:06:16 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40225</guid>
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			<title>spezzerman says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40224</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !! I disagree, this would be a fine deal for Toronto with their depth on NHL ready D. I hope it doesnt happen]]></description>
			<dc:creator>spezzerman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:05:23 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40224</guid>
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			<title>The Apostle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40223</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If that proposed TML/CBJ trade is correct then the bluejackets got hosed. If Schenn does go it will be amusing to see all the leafs fans desperately trying yo convince people that Schenn was never any good, three years after desperately trying to convince people he was going to be their no1 shutdown blueliner for the next 10 years.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>The Apostle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:04:58 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40223</guid>
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			<title>SNOOPY SENIOR says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40222</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Leafs are totally out of their mind, in even considering a deal like that one. Burke must be feeling the panic button pushing again !!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SNOOPY SENIOR</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:03:18 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40222</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40221</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ This doesn't seem right. Perhaps just for Carter? Can't imagine Johansen being a part of that deal. The NHL's silly season in full swing!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:01:35 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40221</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40220</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Murray won't be trading Kuba - no team is going to offer anything simply for Kuba's negotiating rights for a few days.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:58:49 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40220</guid>
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			<title>gauts26 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40219</link>
			<description><![CDATA[According to Gord Stellick. Leafs close to acquiring Carter/Johansen for Grabovski/Schen n and a 2nd. this will make the ball rolling for trades in the EAST if true.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>gauts26</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:57:08 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40219</guid>
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			<title>Tookie says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40218</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ They are in St. Louis tonight and then play again on Friday night in Buffalo. A couple losses and an Ottawa win tonight would really set the stage for Saturday. Been awhile since games actually meant something for the Sens. Could the good old days be coming back to town?!?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tookie</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:53:49 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40218</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40217</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Don't worry Johne - there is a 0.0001% chance Kuba resigns and that would only be if Murray feels that none of the Bingo D are ready to break in next year (which is doubtful). Even then, it would be better to resign Carkner or pick up some other short-term d-man.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:53:45 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40217</guid>
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			<title>jakester says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40216</link>
			<description><![CDATA[No problem Snoopy Senior I Respect your OPINION!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jakester</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:51:46 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40216</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40215</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ They are in St. Louis tonight and then play again on Friday night in Buffalo. A couple losses and an Ottawa win tonight would really set the stage for Saturday.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:50:27 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40215</guid>
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			<title>SNOOPY SENIOR says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40214</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ @ jakester, Oops, I forgot about that completely, and I still think that Murray will hold on to Kuba, till just before July 1, where he will trade him for whatever he can get ! I know he is not part of the rebuild, but he can be very prominent in a playoff run !!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SNOOPY SENIOR</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:48:39 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40214</guid>
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			<title>frankiefives says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40213</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Are we still debating the trade/keep Kuba question? Murray has already answered it CLEARLY! The only way the players would accept a trade like that is if another team OVERPAYS (1st round pick and/or a very good prospect). Those of you who believe the players would be fine with Kuba being moved are completely out to lunch. There is great team chemistry in that locker room right now, why mess with it? The big moves will come in the off season. The Sens have a full cupboard of prospects coming which means they can likely deal one or 2 if it means making this team better in the immediate future (Bobby Ryan as an example). I've said this before and I'll say it again: It is a great time to be a Sens fan these days]]></description>
			<dc:creator>frankiefives</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:43:15 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40213</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40212</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It's possible that by Saturday night this team is second in the conference. Boston would still have a ton of games in hand of course. But they've been dropping steadily for a while now. Just sayin']]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:40:11 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40212</guid>
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			<title>Johne says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40211</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I hope Kuba isn't resigned. I know he's had a great season and yes we need players that can log big minutes but please let some one else do that job other than Kuba next season. Too risky.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Johne</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:39:11 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40210</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Picture it this way: Ottawa Senators trade Filip Kuba to the St Louis Blues for a second round pick. Murray: "We hate to lose a guy like that who's played well for us this year but the pick makes sense." Ottawa Senators acquire Filip Kuba from St Louis for a second round pick. Murray: "We feel acquiring this guy shores up our blueline for the playoffs. Our team has done a fantastic job this season and exceeded expectations so they deserve a little help going into the playoffs. Kuba's a pending UFA so getting him for the rest of this season doesn't hurt the rebuild." Kuba is our rental.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:32:24 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>RUSHRLZ says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40209</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I can't wait until next Tuesday where we wont have to constantly discuss trading Kuba and Gonchar or not! :) Two huge games coming up and against teams that have our number. Getting at least two points out of these is imperative and it all starts tonight against floundering Ovechkin and the Caps.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>RUSHRLZ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:29:57 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40208</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Murray would trade Kuba and a prospect for a solid YOUNG d-man any day of the week. That's a hockey trade (and a great one depending on the specifics). What Murray seems unlikely to do is dump Kuba for a pick (i.e. "selling" at the deadline) which playoff-bound teams typically don't do.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:28:29 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40208</guid>
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			<title>Floridasensfan says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40207</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Really the whole team has brought us to where we are in playoff contention, I have zero problem with going as is into playoffs with Kuba Gonchar, they both helped get us here. Going into playoffs trumps getting a return for our UFA I for sure want to have Gonchar for playoffs, quite frankly he would be stupid to waive his no trade the way we are playing, he certainly adds veteran playoff experience and don't worry one bit about him giving his all in playoffs. Kuba sure he does not fit in the rebuild but he is playing well, unless we get a stupid offer BM can't refuse why not keep him to finish this season, at season start we were willing to give him away for free so whats the problem with staying the course for playoffs, consider him a rental was a good point above. I am however all for letting him walk season end.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Floridasensfan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:22:17 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40207</guid>
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			<title>novascotian says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40206</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Steve Otts name keeps entering the rumors. He might be a solid player to pick up. Still has two years left at a reasonable price. Greening Spezza Michalek Ott Turris Alfresson Foligno Smith Condra Daug Jimmy O'/Kono Neil Lots like a pretty tough line going into the playoffs]]></description>
			<dc:creator>novascotian</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:11:54 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40206</guid>
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			<title>jakester says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40205</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Snoopy Senior - you can't trade KUba in the off season he's a UFA meaning July 1st he's free as a bird. You can trade his negociation rights for a pick but what GM in his right mind would trade for Kuba's negociation rights. So no first pick - no 2nd pick - Sweet F-All. That's why I WOULD TRADE HIM! Bring up GRYBA. Let's PRETEND Kuba twisted his ankle and is out for the rest of the year! HAHA making reference to yesterdays post that we pretend he's a rental pick-up that we got after dealing him!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jakester</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:54:05 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>gauts26 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40204</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Chirp, If the sens win the next 3 games, does a bigger trade happen, or does this plan stay put. How about a trade like this: Kuba and prospect for a young solid d-men. Gonchar for frolik and Hjalmarson (chicago)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>gauts26</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:29:09 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40204</guid>
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			<title>SNOOPY SENIOR says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40203</link>
			<description><![CDATA[After reading all the posters' take on whether to keep or trade Kuba, I believe that we ( Senators ) owe it to Kuba to keep him for balance of this season. We know what we have in Kuba, and he knows it will be his last season as a Senator! He will be traded in the off season, and we will get at least a 2nd round pick for him ! Bryan Murray knows what is best for both parties, and he said that he will not trade Kuba, unless some GM offers him an overpayment that he cannot refuse !!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SNOOPY SENIOR</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:08:41 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40203</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40202</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Bingo. Really need to factor in the human element involved in this decision.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:30:43 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40202</guid>
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			<title>jakester says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40201</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I've seen quite a few Devils games this year and Parise looks off to me. Not the same guy he was before his injury! Should he really be the player we pay high for in the off season? i think just a quality D-man and we're all set next year!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jakester</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:01:08 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40201</guid>
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			<title>MethotToMyMadness says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40200</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ You sir, have said everything I was just about to type. So I don't need to explain it anymore to the peeps that continually want to move Kuba. Your last paragraph is what puts some clubs ahead of others, especially in a players mind. We often forget that NHL players are people and more and more the better players are including NTC into contracts. Those are not just for security but also to ensure they are not moved somewhere a player doesn't want to go. And why would that be a concern? Because players know what GM's and what teams have a bad reputation. If they are willing to waive it, they give a list of teams. Ottawa had a bad rep, let's erase that.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MethotToMyMadness</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:57:21 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40200</guid>
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			<title>jughead says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40199</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Trading Kuba would be a mistake. He had a bad year last year (for most of it)but bear in mind he was coming off a brutal leg injury and the team as a whole was struggling. Alfie wasn't good last year (much like kuba, struggled with an injury then turned it around this year), nor Spezza or just about anyone else. So, throw last year out of the mix and consider Kuba the years before that and this year. If you take that as the sample then you are talking about a solid D-Man. So a lot of the sentiment stems from Kuba having a bad year last year. This year he has been one of the better and more consistent performers on the team. Another big factor to note: Given the success of the team this year and his role in it, you keep him. It is better for the team and better for the league wide perception of how the team runs and treats its players - respectfully. This perception is vital when it comes to pursuing free agents. Other players notice how a given teams management treats its own and it informs their opinion of the team and their potential desire to be a part of that team or not.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jughead</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:42:47 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40199</guid>
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			<title>Ozzyb says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40198</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Yes, but you can say that for 75% of the team because they all had a poor season last year. Kuba's not going to get you much imo, I wouldn't pay more then a 3rd for him and even that's too high. I think it's of better value for us to keep Kuba, even if he signs elsewhere next season.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ozzyb</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:00:27 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40198</guid>
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			<title>HollywoodStyle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40197</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm typically a glass half-full kinda guy and was looking forward to dumping Kuba for a pick at the deadline, but I don't see how you can look your players in the eyes as a GM if you trade him in this scenario. The team has a chance to compete for the Cup - it could well be Alfie's last chance. Who knows how things stack up next year? It might be different if the team weren't stacked with prospects who should start to contribute over the next 1-4 years. The organization is not in desperate need to get picks for this year - our scouting staff has done a great job even in later rounds picking up good prospects over the past few years (ex. Zach Smith, Mark Stone). People need to remember that we have 3 first round picks that are likely going to be claiming roster spots in the near future. Those don't include Cody Ceci when we draft him 30th overall this summer!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>HollywoodStyle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:24:43 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40197</guid>
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			<title>TheBoss says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40196</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Just throwing this out there because I was viewing the latest Wings trade discussion... Aside from Cleary, Bertuzzi, and Kindl, the Wing's roster is made up of primarily 3rd+ rounders. I know it's been discussed but man, that says a ton about their franchise, and believing in a solid foundational.. Add on to the fact that many of their prospects then do 3+ years in the AHL, and shit. Them giving away their first rounder is not really going to affect them because what they get is the guy they drafted years ago, who returns as a solid NHL defensemen to a team already stacked on D.. giving them lots of depth. Looking at our own roster.. We have a ton of first round selections; Spezza, Karlsson, Milan, Foligno, Turris, Phillips, Lee, Gonchar, and Cowen, and the rest late rounders/free agents. I'm really glad BM is doing things the right way, and drafting. With Maclean (who spent years with the Wings) here as well, to provide input to BM, our future definitely looks bright. If we could go down the same road the Wings have gone down to build a contender, for years, that'd be fine by me. You want to Fail for Nail? Go for it, but don't go in thinking that it's the only way to be successful. You still need a group of hard, determined, and passionate players that give it their all day in day out..]]></description>
			<dc:creator>TheBoss</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:21:17 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40196</guid>
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			<title>yawnzzz says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40195</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ stings more that they were both tied up in the last minute too At least the leafs only got the 1]]></description>
			<dc:creator>yawnzzz</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:43:31 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40195</guid>
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			<title>darthsens911 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40194</link>
			<description><![CDATA[damn.. both divisional games are 3 pointers!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>darthsens911</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:39:03 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40194</guid>
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			<title>yawnzzz says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40193</link>
			<description><![CDATA[as if the leafs tied it up with less than a minute BOOOOOOOOOO at least flyers are still losing.... Now the flyers tied it up BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO]]></description>
			<dc:creator>yawnzzz</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:35:15 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40193</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40192</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Let me put it in NHL12 terms to help some people understand. Trade Kuba now for a first round pick: you give up a guy with a rating in the 70s for a pick that *might* end up in the 90s in a few years. Keep Kuba: Add 2-5 points to all the young players on our team due to added experience of a playoff push and a round (or more) in the playoffs. That's about 60 added points total to the team instead of one player 20 points higher than Kuba. There's no guarantees that Kuba staying means we make the playoffs (or that him being traded meaning we don't) but the odds say "don't rock the boat". Sit back and enjoy the hockey man.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:23:22 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40192</guid>
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			<title>Tcharger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40191</link>
			<description><![CDATA[And what says we can't do that without Kuba? And with more of our long term guys???]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tcharger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:21:31 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40191</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40190</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm further down the "trade Kuba now" path than most, but even I can't rationalize some of the posts above. Just like the Calder Cup run helped speed up the development of some of the Bingo kids, actually making the playoffs this year and playing well there (what says we can't win a round or two?) will do more for the long-term "plan" than whatever pick we can get for Kuba. Especially when that pick comes with the message "your hard work this season means nothing guys".]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:18:21 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40190</guid>
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			<title>Tcharger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40189</link>
			<description><![CDATA[What your saying makes no sense....so lets say in 3 years we are on the cusp of going all the way, we shouldn't make that one move that would put us over the tip because it isn't fair to the guys who played the whole season for us. Come on man]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tcharger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:17:46 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40189</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40188</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The "plan" that everyone refers to was not designed for a scenario where the Sens were a playoff team in year one. Considering the season the team has had, the plan obviously shifts a little bit. Doesn't mean you sell young players for a short term fix- you just let this group play it out. See what they can do.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:08:41 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40188</guid>
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			<title>Tcharger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40187</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I do agree that I would rather Gonchar gone at this point. But the chances of that happening with the extra year/no move clause is all but zero]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tcharger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:08:09 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40187</guid>
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			<title>Sudsy says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40186</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'd rather get rid of Gonchar than Kuba at this point. Then there'd be even more money available next year for Parise and/or Suter +]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sudsy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:02:25 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40186</guid>
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			<title>Tcharger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40185</link>
			<description><![CDATA[You are not throwing in the towel...you are following the plan and giving your young guys some great experience. Also I have played sports my whole life at a fairly high level...it is not unheard of for players/coaches /trainers/anyon e involved with the team to suggest that facing another team team in the playoffs/or strategically placing one team against another..it happens...this is along the same lines. Also..it does make sense ..he won't be around next season(I REALLY hope). Get a prospect/pick for him when he is hot.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tcharger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:55:59 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40185</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40184</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Sorry, but that isn't how pro sports work. You don't mail it in and use the "we are just happy to be here" approach. Won't fly in the locker room and it shouldn't fly in the GMs office either.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:52:49 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40184</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40183</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Because the circumstances have changed. Because this Sens team is holding down a playoff spot and have surprised people all year. Had he played this well and the Sens were outside looking in, then by all means. But the fact is he is an important piece on a team that could be headed to the playoffs. Just doesn't make sense to move him anymore.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:51:36 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Tcharger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40182</link>
			<description><![CDATA[No, no it doesn't your last paragraph is exactly why it should not change...we have already far exceeded almost everyone's expectations, stick to the plan and move out who we planned to move out...and give our young guys some playoff experience.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tcharger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:50:14 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>jasonontheoldsenschirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40181</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Because we're making the playoffs. Because we are in the position we're in currently in the standings, and the team has meshed well this season, Kuba included, it's hard to get rid of him. If we were in 10th or 11th and Kuba has played well as he has this season, Murray would do things differently and look at options for Kuba. But the expectation wasn't to make the playoffs this season. It was to be a better, more respectable hockey team. The Sens have surpassed that expectation incredibly, and therefore the philosophy regarding Kuba has to change.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jasonontheoldsenschirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:45:49 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Tcharger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40180</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Chirp...you and everyone here wanted him gone for ANYTHING. I don't understand how everyone here seems to have forgotten this...he has done exactly what everyone prayed he would.do.Play well enough To get us a good return..now that we have been overachieving suddenly he is the second coming.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tcharger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:38:07 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40179</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Just not a three point game!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:36:46 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>sben says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40178</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'll probably be banished from senschirp for ever by saying this but do we want Toronto to win? New Jersey is ahead of us and it will be easier for us to catch up to them and it will be easier for Toronto to be knocked out of the playoffs or do we want Toronto to win. They're 6 points behind us and it will be easier for us to catch up to NJ.Thoughts?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sben</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:35:31 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40178</guid>
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			<title>gauts26 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40177</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Niklas Hjalmarsson for Gonchar]]></description>
			<dc:creator>gauts26</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:27:31 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>TrueSensFan says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40176</link>
			<description><![CDATA[as much as I would like to have maximum return (overpayment) for Kuba.... you do really need to list the pros and cons... again I can see both sides Now Gonch is a bi different. I think we can avoid upsetting the chemistry too much by trading him (I am not sure how much he is mentoring 65 though). apparently a couple teams have already called about Gonchar. Chicago being one of them. Interesting. I would assume we may need to take some salary back in a trade for gonch and of course he would need to waive so ....... I would be curious what the offer is though]]></description>
			<dc:creator>TrueSensFan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:10:08 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40176</guid>
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			<title>SensChirp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40175</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I just can't wrap my head around this way of thinking. Guess fans just approach the game and supporting their team in different ways. Regardless, clear we won't find common ground in this debate. :)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SensChirp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:08:44 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>darthsens911 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40174</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Huh? Why would Murray be looking at a UFA in his late 30s anyway? There is zero concern of Kuba being resigned unless all these things happen: He agrees to less money than he can get on the open market. He signs a one-year deal with no NTC/NMC. Murray KNOWS for sure that we only have one rookie ready for next year to break in and that all the rest of our young D needs another year in Bingo. i.e. Kuba replaces Carkner Basically what I said... in response to spinorama's claim we would sign him long term...haha]]></description>
			<dc:creator>darthsens911</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:08:09 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40173</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Huh? Why would Murray be looking at a UFA in his late 30s anyway? There is zero concern of Kuba being resigned unless all these things happen: He agrees to less money than he can get on the open market. He signs a one-year deal with no NTC/NMC. Murray KNOWS for sure that we only have one rookie ready for next year to break in and that all the rest of our young D needs another year in Bingo. i.e. Kuba replaces Carkner]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:54:39 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>NotwinninforM­acKinnon says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40172</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Watching clb sj .. Carter has 2 goals what a release on his shot he is playing like a man that wants out]]></description>
			<dc:creator>NotwinninforM­acKinnon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:52:31 -0500</pubDate>
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			<title>darthsens911 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40171</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I seriously doubt that Kuba will be the best UFA we are able to sign in the off season and if that happens the Murrays' won't be signing him to more than a year. Breaking up this team right now for menial picks would be pointless and as said by many could break up the team's chemistry which is undesirable heading into the playoffs.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>darthsens911</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:41:02 -0500</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40171</guid>
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			<title>Hax says:</title>
			<link>http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/623-deadline-looms-for-murray#comment-40170</link>
			<description><![CDATA[While I don't buy into the idea that Karlsson owes all his success to Kuba and I'm also a guy who will shed no tears if he's moved.... Think of Kuba as our rental. We should move him because he's not going to be around after this year and his value is high etc etc, but then we also need to go out and get a veteran D to help us the rest of the way. So we keep Kuba as our rental. If some GM wants to offer us a first for Kuba and Murray feels he can get a guy to replace Kuba and bring what Kuba has given us this year (which ain't nothing) and that guy only costs us a second then do it. But even then you're basically upgrading a second for a first and potentially hurting team chemistry. If we were in 10th it's a totally different story and Murray would be singing a different tune.... and licking his chops over fleecing some GM.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hax</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:40:34 -0500</pubDate>
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