While the Sens would not say so publicly, Corey Perry was definitely on their radar both on the trade front as well as via free agency this summer. Whether or not they would pay the price necessary when push came to shove was another story but they were definitely keeping a close eye on the situation out West.
Perry was considered to be one of the bigger names potentially available via trade before the deadline and certainly one of the more prominent names set to hit the open market.
This move will certainly take some of the excitement out of deadline day a couple weeks from now
With the Ducks playing as well as they have this season, it was damn near impossible for the Ducks to move either one of their stars which is why signing them became their focus.
Oh well, there goes the excitement of the summer.
Based on the interest in Nash, and the fact that they kicked tires on Perry, I really think the budget thing is a factor but only until a young expensive talent that fits into the rebuild long term becomes available.
No more Corey Perry talk for at least 7 years.
At least he's staying in the WEST.
There pretty much are none left. He was the only one. We're pretty much screwed unless Silfverberg becomes an all-star
CP eventually signing for the Leafs or Habs would be worse.
We will never be a true contender until we get an elite winger for Spezza.
Looking across the league, there really isn't anyone else that's young and either available now or soon to be within the next year or two.
In 3 years it'll be too late. By then we'll have to start looking for a replacement for Spezza, never mind a scoring winger
See if any good players are available.
Too old for us. Never gonna happen
If we can't sign Horton, then we can follow up with Pierre Marc Bouchard.
All hope is not lost on finding a scoring winger because Perry might be off the block... TBH I'd rather not pay him around 8 mill a year anyway. To me, It's time to seriously make Horton a priority.
Don't know enough about their prospects to know if they bring any young players into the lineup..
NJ will probably sign him. They can't risk losing him after losing Parise this past off-season.
Source: NHL.com
Pierre Marc Bouchard?! Uhhh no thanks. He can't provide anything that any of our current roster players don't already. Horton would be great though. He would be the first true power forward we have ever had.
We have a ridiculous amount of fringe players that either are already or will soon be top 6 or top 9 forwards but none will be legit stars.
There's a reason we haven't heard any rumours about anyone except for Nash, Parise and Perry. It's what we need and nothing else!
What's the point in getting a Horton or Stewart or Bouchard. Makes no sense when we already have players just like them.
Gaborik on the other hand makes a lot of sense. Hecan be that guy for us but he's a fair bit of a downgrade from Perry and Nash. That's why this sucks. The well is pretty much dried up
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I like the looks of that lineup for next year.. assuming we sign Lats and Alfie.
Haha okay I got carried away with him.. but signing a Horton or Semin or Clarkson isn't out of the question. Surely we can lure one of the three in with around 6 million...
Two players that Murray should look at are Chris Stewart and Pierr-Marc Bouchard.
Chris Stewart would be my first option.
Also I like the Nathon Horton idea!
The I metioning Chris Stewart because the Blues have like 6 rfa this summer and
they can't resign them all.
So who thinks witch one of the Blues rfa will be traded either at the the
trade deadline or at the draft?
I know he is marrying a Scarborough girl this summer..This worries me and I hope he picks Ottawa over Toronto if given the choice...
Carolina is very happy with Semin this season.. I think he re-signs there.
If they want a 21 man roster.. I think they only need about 5. You know Koivu & Selanne could be back and I'm sure they would take less $$$ to keep the team under the Cap..
A player with questionable work ethic would destroy the chemistry in a team like the Sens. We're doing great because every is putting the team before themselves. Players like Semin ahem.. russians ahem... do not do well in this type of environment
Gonchar for example.
Ducks gave him more money than Getzlaf and 8 years (Leafs could only offer 7) and a top level centre to play with
I'll take the guy with the 'head injury' and risk it. What the hell is wrong with this league again?!
Go Du-ucks Go
Sucks we don't get a shot at Perry but whatevs. Building your team around two or three HUGE contracts is a recipe for disaster.
Michalek-Spezza-Silfverberg
Zibanejad-Turris-Noesen
Neil-Smith-Greening
Stone-O'Brien-Dyrzinski/Condra
Karlsson-Methot
Cowen-Weirchoich
Ceci-Phillips
Borowicki
Anderson
Lehner
I think I would be fine with that, Not saying Murray wont go after a Bobby Ryan or something but saying that we have potential to have a power house team in 2 seasons, look at how we play without Spezza, Michalek, Karlsson, Anderson, it is just insaine, just add those guys alone and we are just as good as the best team in the league almost.
I agree about Horton..2.8 mill max.
Most people probably wouldn't agree with this but I can't help it. Like we've all said, it's amazing to watch this season as everyone is giving it their all. With the addition of our key pieces next year along with an Andy/Lehner tandem I can't help but think we have a shot at top crack in the East.
Although, given how this team lays it out every night I would have to think injuries would always be a big threat with this lineup.
Blow up the Island tonight!
Thats exciting news...right guys!!!
Because despite the fact that the Senators are in a "rebuild"...the window could close sooner than you think.
In my opinion, next year, with an elite goal scorer (like Perry) added and Alfie in the mix, will be the best chance this team has had a cup.
There are plenty of wingers out there that can be had this summer. Gaborik, Semin (if he doesn't re-sign), Clarkson, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Sharp... All their teams will be looking to shed salary and may have to trade or let these guys go...
If Ryan wants to be here and we think we can resign him once his next two years are up then I am open to exploring that. If on the other hand he really wants to be in Philly as rumored, and will walk after two years are up, well obviously that isn't a great situation.
Could be an interesting two weeks.
If Anaheim is to trade Ryan it won't be until the offseason. They aren't going to shake up their team that much when they look like cup contenders this year.
Jagr in a Sens jersey would be amazing. He's one of the greatest players of all time and he can still play. I wonder what the asking price would be?
Oh I agree with you completely, I don't even think his trade value would be higher right now than in the summer anyways, that is what I heard though.
Further to that I heard it could be a three-way deal where we send a goalie to Edmonton, Ryan comes to us and... what could Edmonton possibly send to the Ducks for their playoff push. Sure as hell not any defensive help!
Where did you hear this?
Experience would sure help in play offs, great on pp as well
We should really pursue Ryan once again,as he is at $5.1 million for 2 more seasons with the Ducks. He is only 26 years old, and has 8 goals and 14 assists
for 22 points . Perry has 9 and 15 for 24 points, Getzlaf 10 and 21 for 31 points.
Senators should get going on this, because the Flyers might not be too attractive in the eyes of Ryan.
Cammy is an intriguing option. I've always been a fan of his. I think he's a great competitor and he just wants to win. He's a notoriously hard worker and a clutch playoff performer.
The downside to him right now is his salary. He's no longer a 6 million dollar player but maybe he would excel in Paul Maclean's system, and who knows, in a contract year for him next year he may put up some big numbers.
Obviously when discussing a player with a 6 mill salary, Melnyk's budget will come into play. I remember when Cammy first signed that deal with MTL, the Sens were one of the finalists for his services. He's also a good friend of Spezza's.
From one of my own 'sources', not on the radio or on TV or on Eklund's stupid assed site.
I'm pretty sure Chirp could confirm we've been talking about Ryan, amongst others.
The downside to him right now is his salary. He's no longer a 6 million dollar player but maybe he would excel in Paul Maclean's system, and who knows, in a contract year for him next year he may put up some big numbers.
Obviously when discussing a player with a 6 mill salary, Melnyk's budget will come into play. I remember when Cammy first signed that deal with MTL, the Sens were one of the finalists for his services. He's also a good friend of Spezza's.
Ya they are very good friends, they both work out together in the summers and I am sure would love to play together. I am guessing cami would put up big numbers in a contract year with spezz at his side.
I can't confirm it specifically but it obviously makes sense and there was interest in the off season.
Let's be honest, we all HATE Heatley, but in 2007 if we had Karlsson as well as our boys.. different result.
Playoffs success is a sum of Goaltending + talents + coaching + a team being hot at the right time = Stanley Cup
We have many parts already (Goaltending, talent & coaching). Who knows where this can bring us. It feels like some of offensive talents are starting to be clutch again.
I believe this team can do damage.
I can't confirm it specifically but it obviously makes sense and there was interest in the off season.
Hopefully Anaheim gets bounced in the first round and Perry askes to get traded! LOL Did he get a NTC with the beauty contract?
Might aswell kick the tires on Ryan (which we have done before), not the elite talent Perry is but it would be an upgrade to Michalek.
Sounds about right, I would say maybe 2 years from now we push for a Cup but thats with an elite scoring winger not named Michalek.
Maybe as early as next year IF we get Perry someway (trade).
the media has to sell its product and to make that happen, they only need a mere excuse to show their stupid peanut brains on tv. the mere incidence of his contract expiring sent the media into overdrive - it happened when malkin was becoming ufa/rfa too.
and then came bum perry-gasming sens and leafs fans.
now the media is onto gaborik lol
teams won't trade their superstars for as long as they can avoid it. the only way a guy of perry's stature will ever leave his team is if he just doesnt want to stay there - and that was obviously never the case - why would you anyways? nash, j.staal - these guys left because they didnt want in their teams anymore.
i'm happy its put to rest sooner than later. i enjoy watching our depth and system duke it out with the best teams and competing hard and giving themselves a chance to win every game.
Both over 30+ and would be rental players, doesnt fit into rebuild.
Totally agree,I believe all three have the POTENTIAL to be 30 plus scorers in this league.
On the other hand, you have a blossoming team in Ottawa with three starting goalies vs. Philly's sometimes one, a future Hall Of Famer captain, a young Norris winning defenseman, a great coach who the players love playing for and an incredibly smart GM.
If I'm Ryan, or any player for that matter, the latter has to be looking more and more tempting by the day.
Gotta agree with this, and like SC said, I think Melnyk is more than willing to dish out the cash IF the right situation comes along.
The monument to Lord Stanley of Preston, the governor general of Canada, will be located on city-owned land near the intersection of Sparks and Elgin streets -- not far from where the idea of what would become the Stanley Cup originated.
Whole story here:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=660858&navid=nhl:topheads
Toffoli converted a pass from Jeff Carter for a second-period power-play goal that made it 2-0 -- then received a standing ovation from the packed house of 18,118 at Staples Center.
"It was incredible," he said of the fans' reaction to his goal. "I didn't expect that. I just had goose bumps, and it was a great feeling.
"Any kid dreams to play in the NHL and to score, and to be playing with the linemates I'm playing with now, it's an honor, and I just want to keep playing my game
I do like the fact that even though he has just signed an 8 year deal there are those here who are still thinking we can trade for him, I suppose the NMC he has isn't really a problem.
We definitely need an upgrade on MIchalek, I had thought we could use him as part of an offer to get better on the top line, but given his current injury issue, which is by no means an isolated incident, I think we have to reconcile ourselves to the fact that he's here next year and any elite winger we get will be in addition to Michalek, not instead of him.
I think people are skeptical as it is a shortened season and teams that are usually not contenders are all of a sudden contenders and vice versa.
It seems to many NHL fans, this year is a wash, test run for next year when a real season is played. In a shortened season anyone can make the playoffs. Its like this year doesnt count.
Like the winner of the Cup will have an asterix beside them stating the shortened season and somewhat diminishing its value.
yes that is exactly what the fickle ones are saying here.
So next season do you think with Spezza, Cowen, Karlsson, Michalek and Anderson all back, that it's going to make the progress of the young players of Silfvy,Turris and Zbad go in reverse and their going to have worse numbers than this season?
Tookie sets asides his own opinions and becomes the voice of the masses! I say hurray to you, sir, hurray to you!
lol the many NHL fans he is talking about are the Edm, NYR, Philly, VAN, SJS, BUFF, TB and TOR fans...
The guy that i would most want to see is Stewart, he's a big strong goal scorer that will drop the mitts and i think he'd fit in perfectly on our first line. Unfortunately with the season he's had, i can't see St Louis letting him go especially given the amount of cap space they have.
Gaborik is obviously intriguing but he's often hurt and for it to work i think it would need to be a 3 team trade.
lastly, pretty sure Ryan could play on our top line...
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Hopefully Anaheim gets bounced in the first round and Perry askes to get traded! LOL Did he get a NTC with the beauty contract?
Might aswell kick the tires on Ryan (which we have done before), not the elite talent Perry is but it would be an upgrade to Michalek.
Bang on Tooks.
Ryan was rumoured to be unhappy over there, 5 mil contract not too expensive when you consider he's a bona fide 30+ guy, young, played around winners. See if the Quacks will take Michalek or Silfvershootout berg and a pick or whatnot...
Saving Bobby Ryan...git 'er done BEE-MURR.
Imagine what our defense would look like in a couple of years:
Sustr 6,8
Cowen 6,5
Wiercioch 6,5
Methot 6,3
Gryba 6,2
Karlsson 6,0
Fantastic point.
Hell, if you look at our team we have save percentages in the all-time range, simply not sustainable over 50-60 games for one goalie but doable in small 10-15 game stretches.
I mean...the Leafs have very much improved and they're in a playoff spot but geez. And the Jets in a playoff spot? Yeah...this season has a massive * next to it.
Bang on Tooks.
Ryan was rumoured to be unhappy over there, 5 mil contract not too expensive when you consider he's a bona fide 30+ guy, young, played around winners. See if the Quacks will take Michalek or Silfvershootout berg and a pick or whatnot...
Saving Bobby Ryan...git 'er done BEE-MURR.
So you're saying that there's no way Silferberg will be able to get 30+ goals next year playing alongside Spezza for 82 games?
Has anyone ever discredited the New Jersey Stanley Cup from 1994?
As has been said, this current team is a shell of what it actually is and yet we are sitting in 5th and we compete every night. With a less skilled, but healthy line up last year we were 4th in scoring.
Folks - Perry isn't going to hurt our chances to compete. We ARE a contender with a healthy lineup and our young skilled guys are gaining experience and confidence and will only get better and better.
The main reason the save% is so high is because of all the key offensive injuries. So you're saying we are going to be without karlsson, spezza and michalek for the majority of next season too, wow that really sucks.
haha, Nope. - oh, and that just kickstarted a nasty habit of winning that landed them 2 more cups.
We need a goal scoring winger to play with Spezza? We have at least five of them for next season in Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Stone, Puempel, Michalek & Greening.
We need a top 4 defenceman? We have Methot, Karlsson, Wiercioch & Ceci coming. We could also have a couple of tough defensive defencemen in Gryba & Sdao. Plus we have three good goaltenders.
This team is deep with talent in all positions & are young & are going to get better. They are not screwed they are in great shape. They are a playoff team now without their stars, what are they going to be with their stars?
if the Sens get into the playoffs, win their first series against Winnipeg in 6.
Play the Habs in a close 6 game series and win that one,
Take on Boston and win in 7
go on to face the Blackhawks and win the Stanly cup in 6 games... would any of us die hare, or fickle or fence sitting fans give a flying fuck if there was a n asterick beside it??????
Go Sens Go!!! and win the asterick beside the stanley cup!!!
Great post!
What do you think they cap will be in year 4 of this deal? It could be 80M easily if revenues continue trending the way they have. NHL projects 2.4B revenues this year, less than 1B off of last year. And this year - a lockout year, also saw 300% reductions in Gamecenter prices; no 24/7, no Winter Classic, no all - star game. Imagine what a full year with maxing all that will bring?
Ducks will be tight the next couple years but they are loaded with youthful RFA's who can insulate the Perry/Getz cap hits for the next couple years while the cap grows. They have two buyouts that can give them extra space next year if they need it. if they are smart, they should be able to manage this ok.
I have been saying for over 2 years, that he should be no different than Selanne, and will retire when he is good and ready, not while he is still the #1 forward on this team, and still a leader in the NHL,
Alfie retires ala Mark Recchi!
Bobby Ryan has always been available
Murray doesn't know if he wants to pull the trigger...
yet
Well, how would No. 11 feel about hitting 1,111 points?
"Then I'll retire," he said with a smile.
Can we make the playoffs next year? More than likely but chances of winning the cup without adding an experience defender into the top four and a proven top line winger is going to be difficult. Not saying its impossible but the window to win with Alfie is this year or next. When the torch passes it will likely be a few years before we have another good shot at it.
What Alfie retire!!!!!!!! That will never happen. He will play a long time. Oh time to wake up. I still think we will have Alfie's influence in the team off the ice when he retires so he will have another chance to win the cup that way. Notice I said "another"!!!
Go sens go.
Well anything can happen, they can keep going at this pace or with Spezza and Michalek back they can get less minnutes and produce less. So yeah I think anything can happen.
Just saying in a 82 game season, many things can change.
This team is competing with the best no problems since we have the goaltending. We could've have won both game against Boston and we are finally starting to get puck luck lately.
I trust MacLean and this team. Remember the Bingo boys on our team won it all 2 years ago and they will be fun to watch come playoffs time.
Probably not, I doubt we have Silf in 30+ with Michalek AND Spezza with 30+ aswell, that would be a 90+ goal line...
Its nice to dream but we havent had that since Spezz, Alfie, Heatley.
Fantastic post!!
I think the rush (ants in their pants) people (sens fans here) get from talking about blockbuster trades is what keeps them going.stop and look at the team we have now and in bingo they are all winning why trade if we have winners everywhere. i just dont get people's logic. may be its just saying things for the sake of saying it...
For starters, we don't have parise, Kovalchuck or Clarkson on top of the most succesful goalie in history.
HAHAHA ouch shutdown!
It actually really is nice to dream, you should try it some time!
Listen nobody is saying trade Spezza or Karlsson, you have to keep things real...alot of our depth wont even see time of day with the Sens, so they get traded to other teams for a chance, in return we get other pieces or picks, its how it works.
Every Stanley Cup team has added a piece/pieces to get them over the top. We are no different.
Yes we have tons of talent in the wings but not ALL of them will play for the Sens. Thats a fact.
Also in a 82 game season, players usually hit the 50-60 game wall. something Silf and Zib & the rooks havent even gone through yet. For a fact we dont even know if they can be productive in an 82 game season.
Thats what I said it is nice.
But it aint reality and thats what we play in.
Hell yes but I dont think he's going anywhere soon, especially with the old guard being slowly replaced in DET.
Imagine everybody on the Sens thought like you Tookie! I bet they would even refuse to step on the ice and just forfeit every game! lol
What's sad in all of this is that if the Sens proves you wrong, we know you will come up with all the excuses for other teams not performing against us.
Spezza will be back in mid april, Alfie is back playing like he did 5 years ago and we have great goaltending. We can't be pushed around anymore.
I believe.
You make your own reality by how you think! If everybody was a "realist" like yourself, their would be no such thing as the NHL because nobody would have DREAMS of achieving greatness!
Luckily we have teams like the Blackhawks and Miami Heat to defy reality and logic
Just cause what Tookie thinks is "real" doesn't mean the sens players or blackhawk players or Lebron thinks is "real"
From the house of the "glass is half full", we don't know that they can't be productive either. And if they aren't, hasn't this team shown to you that someone else will step up?
I could understand your position a lot better if we were losing and at the bottom of the standings, but we aren't.
We are winning and doing well, and all you can come up with is that we shouldn't be? That if it was a "real" season we wouldn't be?
Please explain to me again how you think you are a SENS fan????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WKAY7BETEg
lol nice... last time i checked SChirp didnt ASSign Tookie to be the director of reality check here...
Game Day Post almost ready ??
sure i agree with adding pieces when there are pieces missing :) this team as it stands doesnt look like it has pieces missing.. which from St Nicks post outlines a lot of pieces that you need to consider.. when was the last time you saw blockbuster trades just before the deadline... the last few trade deadlines have been boring or a bust.. relying on massive trades before the deadline is foolish and illogical.
A top 6 with Silfverberg and Zibanejad is exciting. These guys are on pace for nearly 20 goals in a full season, which is not too bad.
What a team needs for a long run is deep scoring. Who do you stop when every line can produce? O'Brien was leading our team in scoring on the 4th line. We've got two excellent puck movers in Karlsson and Wiercioch.
If Michlaek can come back healthy, he provides another top 6 veteran forward alongside Alfie to help these guys along, and then you got Spezza and Turris down the middle.
Stanley Cups are not won by 1 or 2 players alone. And Anaheim needs to sign more than a handful of players left, which they will not be able to do with what they have left after overpaying 2 players.
The Sens have most of the key pieces in place to make a good push in the playoffs. The chemistry is there. A big chunk of our key injured players are returning. I think Murray can find what may help this team push even harder in the playoffs without overpaying.
So much for the new CBA putting an end to these overinflated contracts.
Didn't the Kings trade Jack Johnson for Jeff Carter last year before the deadline? They did alright.
How did reality work out for you last year.
As for the Sens, a lot of names come to mind of who they would or could go after, the UFA list is pretty long. I can't see Ottawa (if they dive in) paying anyone more than 5 to 5.5M next season. And the other issue of trading for a UFA, we don't even know if they will sign next year.
Considering how sh!tty Philly is doing, they are almost ready to implode, I'd look at trading for Scott Hartnell. He's signed through to 18-19 at a 4.75M cap hit and he's got 1st line abilities, and would be a great crash and bang style player. I mean, we have Latendresse and Michalek right now and I think Hartnell is an upgrade over either of them.
definitely a good trade for both.. CBJ is not doing too badly either after as well... however is there someone like a jeff carter right now thats over 5million cap hit that murray would be willing to part with and guarantee a return like jeff carter.. perry perhaps but not for that amount of a cap hit... like i said if we are missing pieces then sure.. but the way the team is playing its hard to say we should trade right now... you would be messing with team chemistry and a united locker room..