Tuesday, 05 March 2013 10:25

Senators Recall Mark Stone (Murray Speaks)

(UPDATE 4:09 PM)-  I've added a video to the top of this post that is a must listen.  Sylvain St-Laurent did a great job in a sit down interview with Senators GM Bryan Murray and the audio of that exchange has been made available on Youtube.  Murray really lays out the team's approach leading up to the trade deadline next month. 

Yesterday it was talked about and this morning it became official.

The Ottawa Senators announced they have recalled forward Mark Stone from Binghamton of the American Hockey League.  In 38 AHL games, Stone has racked up 8 goals and 21 points.  With the Sens offence struggling, the team is hoping Stone can provide a spark.

The Senators are on the ice for practice this morning in Ottawa at 11:00 AM so we'll have an idea where Paul MacLean plans to use Stone.  With the team struggling to create offence, you would assume Stone finds his way into the top six forwards.

The Sens are also hoping Milan Michalek will be available for tomorrow's game.  Will provide updates from practice as they become available.

Here is the official news release on the Mark Stone call up.

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+1 #1 jdshady 2013-03-05 10:31
hopefully something good happens with him
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+2 #2 MakeSens 2013-03-05 10:34
Here we go boys, show us a spark.
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+5 #3 spezzerman 2013-03-05 10:43
Does that mean Stone was available for practice this morning?

Lets hope Michalek returns and he and Stone can spark some offense. Most importantly, need to get Turris going.
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0 #4 terry k 2013-03-05 10:45
Quoting spezzerman:
Does that mean Stone was available for practice this morning?

Lets hope Michalek returns and he and Stone can spark some offense. Most importantly, need to get Turris going.


With BSens playing in Hamilton and Toronto this past weekend, I would assume that Stone remained in Canada and is ready to practice today.
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-9 #5 Doc 2013-03-05 10:49
Although I'm glad to see Stone get his chance with the big club, I have been a bit disappointed with his results down in Bingo with prime minutes.

Hopefully he finds his game up here!
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+5 #6 spezzerman 2013-03-05 10:50
Quoting Doc:
Although I'm glad to see Stone get his chance with the big club, I have been a bit disappointed with his results down in Bingo with prime minutes.

Hopefully he finds his game up here!


I thought he was playing more of a 3rd line checking role up until his injury?
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0 #7 NikoTn 2013-03-05 10:52
Quoting spezzerman:
Quoting Doc:
Although I'm glad to see Stone get his chance with the big club, I have been a bit disappointed with his results down in Bingo with prime minutes.

Hopefully he finds his game up here!


I thought he was playing more of a 3rd line checking role up until his injury?


It's true, he was.
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-3 #8 Doc 2013-03-05 10:56
Quoting NikoTn:

It's true, he was.


My mistake if that's the case. I was under the impression that this TOI moved up before his injury with all the call-ups to Ottawa.
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+8 #9 SensChirp 2013-03-05 11:02
Here is how Mac has them lined up this morning...

Michalek-Turris-Alfredsson
Stone-Regin-Silfverberg
Greening-Smith-Neil
Dziurzynski-Zibanejad-Condra

O'Brien is skating with Latendresse and Daugavins.
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+4 #10 Doc 2013-03-05 11:03
Not bad, but I still wish Condra would get some time on the top 6. He's been our most consistent guy.

Also not a fan of sitting O'Brien. The guy has been in beast mode most of the time.
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+11 #11 IcySurfas 2013-03-05 11:04
Got a little bored this morning. Did some math...

Western Conference:
Central Division (Hawks, Blues, Wings, Preds, B Jackets) - 128 Pts
Pacific Division (Ducks, Yotes, Kings, Sharks, Stars) - 130 Pts
Northwest Division (Nucks, Wild, Flames, Avs, Oilers) - 110 Pts

Eastern Conference:
Northeast Division - (Habs, Bruins, Lafs, Sens, Sabres) - 138 Pts
Atlantic - (Pens, Devils, Philly, Rangers, Isles) - 120 Pts
Southeast Division - (Canes, Jets, Tampa, Caps, Panthers) - 99 Pts

Our Northeast Division is racking up more points than any of the others so far.

Take what you will from this. I just thought it was interesting numbers to stare at for a moment.
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+5 #12 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 11:10
loving the 2nd line, hopefully regin can click with those two studs and make it rain
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+1 #13 hq8 2013-03-05 11:10
Quoting IcySurfas:
Got a little bored this morning. Did some math...

Western Conference:
Central Division (Hawks, Blues, Wings, Preds, B Jackets) - 128 Pts
Pacific Division (Ducks, Yotes, Kings, Sharks, Stars) - 130 Pts
Northwest Division (Nucks, Wild, Flames, Avs, Oilers) - 110 Pts

Eastern Conference:
Northeast Division - (Habs, Bruins, Lafs, Sens, Sabres) - 138 Pts
Atlantic - (Pens, Devils, Philly, Rangers, Isles) - 120 Pts
Southeast Division - (Canes, Jets, Tampa, Caps, Panthers) - 99 Pts

Our Northeast Division is racking up more points than any of the others so far.

Take what you will from this. I just thought it was interesting numbers to stare at for a moment.


right now 4 NE teams occupy playoff spots and all are in the top 6. RIDICULOUS.
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0 #14 spezzerman 2013-03-05 11:10
Stephen Weiss is shut down for the year in FLA with wrist surgery. Tough one for florida who would have generated a decent return at the deadline for a bonafide 2C.
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0 #15 hq8 2013-03-05 11:10
Quoting SensChirp:
Here is how Mac has them lined up this morning...

Michalek-Turris-Alfredsson
Stone-Regin-Silfverberg
Greening-Smith-Neil
Dziurzynski-Zibanejad-Condra

O'Brien is skating with Latendresse and Daugavins.


saw on twitter than anderson not around - any news?
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0 #16 Doc 2013-03-05 11:11
Quoting spezzerman:
Stephen Weiss is shut down for the year in FLA with wrist surgery. Tough one for florida who would have generated a decent return at the deadline for a bonafide 2C.


Ha! No doubt.

Many teams were interested. Sucks for FLA.
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-1 #17 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 11:13
are you allowed to trade for an injured player?

Lots of players dont like signing contracts while playing, so if any team has major interest in Weiss knowing he is done for the year and lots of time to work out a deal why wouldn't you offer Florida a 3rd round pick and have extra 3-4 months to work out a deal, should Weiss be interested? (not saying ottawa should be)
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+6 #18 hq8 2013-03-05 11:15
AND i know Dziurzynski has looked good, but i dont think sitting the team's top goal scorer in O'Brien sends the right message.
one thing JOB has shown - surprisingly - is that he has had finish this year.
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+1 #19 Tibor 2013-03-05 11:16
Hey there is a link to this thread on the official Sens site. Good to see them continuing to embrace their unofficial online communities!

http://senators.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=14872
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0 #20 hq8 2013-03-05 11:19
Quoting Alcatraz:
are you allowed to trade for an injured player?

Lots of players dont like signing contracts while playing, so if any team has major interest in Weiss knowing he is done for the year and lots of time to work out a deal why wouldn't you offer Florida a 3rd round pick and have extra 3-4 months to work out a deal, should Weiss be interested? (not saying ottawa should be)


would make sense in some ways, but i think its not allowed for good reasons, plus i think owners would not like it because then you are paying for an injured player who is just counting days to become UFA.
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+4 #21 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-03-05 11:22
Although it is tough to see O'Brien as a healthy scratch, the return of Michalek and the insertion of Stone, should produce more offense, with both these 2 on top lines !
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+2 #22 Sensfan20 2013-03-05 11:24
Quoting SensChirp:
Here is how Mac has them lined up this morning...

Michalek-Turris-Alfredsson
Stone-Regin-Silfverberg
Greening-Smith-Neil
Dziurzynski-Zibanejad-Condra


O'Brien is skating with Latendresse and Daugavins.


If this is how we're linning up tomorrow I'm a little confused as to why are leading goal scorer is scratched lol? I know he isn't the most gifted but clearly he is doing something right. Maybe time for smith to sit one out and relax? Worked out great for greening

As for Daugavins would be nice to see the guy get moved to a team looking for depth and help on the pk....just doesn't appear to be any room for the guy
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+1 #23 sensfan4ever 2013-03-05 11:25
Quoting Alcatraz:
loving the 2nd line, hopefully regin can click with those two studs and make it rain


yeah Regin is due for exploding . He is skating , has great intuition and him out of the slump would be a great welcome for sure .

both other new swedes addition this year are showing promising for sure . Silfverberg has got some hockey sense , a great shot , without being too physical , while Zibanejad looks like a complete player . Even if Alfie is the one with the greatest hockey smarts on the team , lets face it , he is not getting any younger .

Gotta love Alfie .

Go TEAM Go
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0 #24 Cooke-d 2013-03-05 11:27
Quoting Alcatraz:
loving the 2nd line, hopefully regin can click with those two studs and make it rain


I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT SMITH SHOULD'VE BEEN PROMOTED, lol.

Just kidding...
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+5 #25 miguel 2013-03-05 11:27
there is not reason to be sitting O'Brien.
I really do not like this move, if anything he should be moving up on the chart... IMO
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0 #26 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 11:29
Quoting Cooke-d:
Quoting Alcatraz:
loving the 2nd line, hopefully regin can click with those two studs and make it rain


I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT SMITH SHOULD'VE BEEN PROMOTED, lol.

Just kidding...


Almost. Would love to see O'brien in the lineup since hes our leading goal scorer but I guess he just isn't as good defensively as Smith, therefor his offense means nothing
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0 #27 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 11:32
Its because Maclean doesn't like Zib on the wing. He wont bench Smith or Turris, and Maclean is giving Regin the ball to go with (wants him to lead this offense from their 1on1 meeting)

I still think JOB could be effective as a 4th line winger though
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+3 #28 Boivo 2013-03-05 11:35
Lets all just chill out about JOB, we are getting players back and giving them a fair shake at mixing things up a little to "spark" (seems to be the word of the day) offence. Yes he has done a great job lol no pun intended for us, but the line up looks great. He knows as soon as someone messes up or looks out of place he draws back in.
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+2 #29 hq8 2013-03-05 11:37
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Cooke-d:
Quoting Alcatraz:
loving the 2nd line, hopefully regin can click with those two studs and make it rain


I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT SMITH SHOULD'VE BEEN PROMOTED, lol.

Just kidding...


Almost. Would love to see O'brien in the lineup since hes our leading goal scorer but I guess he just isn't as good defensively as Smith, therefor his offense means nothing


i think it has more to do with the clog at centre. Smith has been better at draws 47% vs 52% win rate. 7 assists vs 5 goals.

funny thing is Chris Neil also has 5 goals.

i would PM rather plant JOB on Mika's wing, this would also provide Zibanejad with good faceoff shelter as his FO rate is a not very good 42%.

i think its better logic to play your two top goal scorers than to sit one. but im not the coach.

unfortunately the real goal scorer is out. EK65 had 6G.
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-10 #30 Andrews Theory 2013-03-05 11:38
obrien may be leading the team in goals but cmon....he is what he is.

as for Regin, hopefully he stops trying to beat guys one on one, he ends up on his ass every single time..
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+4 #31 NikoTn 2013-03-05 11:44
Quoting hq8:
AND i know Dziurzynski has looked good, but i dont think sitting the team's top goal scorer in O'Brien sends the right message.
one thing JOB has shown - surprisingly - is that he has had finish this year.


He skates like hell and just goes to the net and shoots the puck. Can't really ask for more.
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0 #32 my2sens 2013-03-05 11:45
I would like to see the young guys shoot the puck more AT the net rather than trying to pick the perfect shot/corner and missing the net all-together. Zibby is willing to drive the net and with MM9 coming back he will to. Get rebounds and dirty goals.

All in all - excited to see Stone!!

GO SENS GO!!!

We are sitting 7th in the league!!! (10th or so if all teams play same amount of games - Fucking impressive!)
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+1 #33 Herry69 2013-03-05 11:52
the sens need to start throwing their weight around. get tougher and get NASTIER. they must do this ALL THE TIME ! if they do not, they WILL miss the playoffs. guaranteed.
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0 #34 andreasdackell 2013-03-05 11:53
Any news on anderson today chirp?
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+1 #35 Boivo 2013-03-05 11:55
I too would like to see all sens shoot the damn puck on net. The only way to get out of a goal scoring funk is to put pucks to the net. Also, I need to see the boys stick up for one another. The only real one I recall is Alfie for big rig. We are a big team and need to act like it. This also includes finishing checks, if we fly by everyone then they will get more confidence. They need to bash and smash them so they make poor decisions with the puck.
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+2 #36 The Apostle 2013-03-05 11:55
Quoting spezzerman:
Stephen Weiss is shut down for the year in FLA with wrist surgery. Tough one for florida who would have generated a decent return at the deadline for a bonafide 2C.


Saw that. With O'Reilly signed, Weiss done for the year and Perry likely to test free agency (according to most Anaheim reporters) who are we going to include in our outlandish trade scenarios now?

Bishop, Daugavins and O'Brien for ......?
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-1 #37 Boivo 2013-03-05 11:56
yeah like herry said
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0 #38 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 12:01
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting spezzerman:
Stephen Weiss is shut down for the year in FLA with wrist surgery. Tough one for florida who would have generated a decent return at the deadline for a bonafide 2C.


Saw that. With O'Reilly signed, Weiss done for the year and Perry likely to test free agency (according to most Anaheim reporters) who are we going to include in our outlandish trade scenarios now?

Bishop, Daugavins and O'Brien for ......?


for Charlie Coyle in Minny!
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-1 #39 The Apostle 2013-03-05 12:02
Quoting Alcatraz:


Bishop, Daugavins and O'Brien for ......?


for Charlie Coyle in Minny!

Rejected. Too sensible.
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0 #40 Phoenix 2013-03-05 12:05
On JOB, he does have some skill and has put up points at the lower levels. I think we are starting to see what he can do when given some playing time. I hope that McLean at some point rewards him and moves him up into the top 6 to see what more he could do with some skilled wingers.

As for Weiss, with him off the market it just adds more value to other guys out there. If Iginla and Alfie decide to chase a cup I think it will come down to who goes first and 2nd and what they may fetch.

Stone has a chance to show everyone that he can play at this level without the pressure of being inserted into a playoff game. If he is completely healed I believe he will do well if given a chance to play.
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+2 #41 IcySurfas 2013-03-05 12:09
Quoting miguel:
there is not reason to be sitting O'Brien.
I really do not like this move, if anything he should be moving up on the chart... IMO


I think many of us are confused by this as well. There is nothing that I am seeing with O'Brien on the ice that would make me think that PMAC is not happy with his game and effort, enough anyway to sit him.

Im gonna go ahead and assume theres a quiet injury that they aren't talking about. He missed a couple games after the New Jersey game 2 weeks ago, and was seen with an icepack on his wrist during that game as well.

Maybe that wrist or something else small is nagging at him. Confused why they wouldn't just come out and say it if it was a minor injury though, if that is indeed the case.

Just doesn't make sense to make our highest scoring forward a healthy scratch.
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+8 #42 IcySurfas 2013-03-05 12:14
Just thought of something..

When your team's highest scoring player is a defensman that hasn't played in 3 weeks since being injured, you know your team is struggling to score goals.

If this team could only get just 1 more (avg) goal a game, our Goaltending and defense are strong enough for this team to continue to surprise.
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+3 #43 SensChirp 2013-03-05 12:14
Quoting andreasdackell:
Any news on anderson today chirp?

Didn't skate which is a little surprising. The belief is he's close but I kind of assumed he would practice today. We'll see what MacLean has to say shortly.
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+4 #44 andreasdackell 2013-03-05 12:18
With Obrien it comes down to C position. At this point ill take zibby over him. For those of you who keep pointing out obriens 5 goals, which isnt much lol, zibby has 4. I guess its really a debate of regin or job. Regin looks better with silvf and stone than jimmydoes imo.
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+1 #45 Doc 2013-03-05 12:25
Quoting andreasdackell:
With Obrien it comes down to C position. At this point ill take zibby over him. For those of you who keep pointing out obriens 5 goals, which isnt much lol, zibby has 4. I guess its really a debate of regin or job. Regin looks better with silvf and stone than jimmydoes imo.


Thing is, JOB is actually effective as a winger, which is what I would have expected him to play tomorrow.
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+1 #46 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 12:30
Michalek is playing but will need surgery at end of year

interesting

shows his heart and character
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-8 #47 Tookie 2013-03-05 12:32
I have to disagree, I dont see it being a potentially threatening line.

You have two shooters on the wing and nobody to dish out the passes. Please dont say Regin is capable of doing so, he aint.

Stone and Silf need a playmaker, I would move Alfie back down to line 2 so he can feed Stone or Silf. Line 1 can be Turris feeding Michalek and Stone/Silf.

I would bench Regin quicker than a hookers bra hits the floor.

Your telling me Regin has outplayed JOB??? Regin has been a sore spot on this team for 3 years now. He is as in-effective as it gets.

Michalek Turris Silf/Stone
Michalek and Stone/Silf give Turris much room to make plays.

Stone/Silf Smith Alfie
Smith being defensively sound allows Alfie and Stone/Silf to push harder on OFF. Maybe even get Smith going!

Zibanejad JOB Condra
Energy line, checking line, great intangibles, pain to play against.

4th line I dont care.
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-4 #48 Tcharger 2013-03-05 12:33
Quoting Alcatraz:
Michalek is playing but will need surgery at end of year

interesting

shows his heart and character



Or stupidity.
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0 #49 Tcharger 2013-03-05 12:36
Boychuk to NSH
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+1 #50 Boivo 2013-03-05 12:36
Im sure its just a clean up job surgery and he will be 100% well as 100% as Michalek gets by sept. If he can play now at 80% and have surgery in the summer and still come back to camp ready, then good on him. If this is going to stop him from playing at the start of next season then he should shut it down now.
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0 #51 Section ThirtyOne 2013-03-05 12:40
I see a lot of people here saying that the Sens need to shoot more and get the puck to the net. After poking around the NHL stats machine, I turned up a couple of interesting numbers:

- Sens are 3rd in the league in shots on goal per game.

BUT

- The Sens are 1st in the league for shots missing the net by a wide margin.

If they could hit the net even 10% more often, we'd be number one in the league in shots for. I swear to god, if I have to hear Dean saying "xxxx innnnnnnnnnnn, AND MISSES THE NET WIDE/HIGH/ETC" i'm going to lose my mind.
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-5 #52 jakester 2013-03-05 12:40
Maybe O'Brien is sitting cuz HE NEVER hits anybody out there. We need somebody to lay the body thats why Dziurzynski is playing. Maybe Condra will get the message and actually hit someone out there also(he never puts a shoulder into anyone either).
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-2 #53 Tookie 2013-03-05 12:41
Quoting Boivo:
Im sure its just a clean up job surgery and he will be 100% well as 100% as Michalek gets by sept. If he can play now at 80% and have surgery in the summer and still come back to camp ready, then good on him. If this is going to stop him from playing at the start of next season then he should shut it down now.


Like I said damaged goods, what use will he be at 80% or whatever he is at. He risks injuring even worse and with him being made of glass (not Leclaire glass tho) I predict he plays a few games until he's done for the year.

Better to bring up the kids and make them play than a hobbled Vet.

I would assume Michalek's value is in the shitter after this news. Nobody wants to take on that injury risk.
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0 #54 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 12:44
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Boivo:
Im sure its just a clean up job surgery and he will be 100% well as 100% as Michalek gets by sept. If he can play now at 80% and have surgery in the summer and still come back to camp ready, then good on him. If this is going to stop him from playing at the start of next season then he should shut it down now.


Like I said damaged goods, what use will he be at 80% or whatever he is at. He risks injuring even worse and with him being made of glass (not Leclaire glass tho) I predict he plays a few games until he's done for the year.

Better to bring up the kids and make them play than a hobbled Vet.

I would assume Michalek's value is in the shitter after this news. Nobody wants to take on that injury risk.


or you trust what your vet says and feels and trust your team doctor that he is cleared to play without risk of further damge
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0 #55 Doc 2013-03-05 12:45
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:


Or stupidity.


Agreed.

It serves no purpose if he aggravates his injury. It will only hurt the team in the long run.

I'd rather players take more time to come back at 100% then to come back still injured.

Same goes for Spezza.
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0 #56 jakester 2013-03-05 12:46
Once Andy is back there is going to be a trade with Columbus I believe. Bishop +(whatever) for Tyutin and Brassard. Thats what I think cuz the new GM in Columbus loves Bishop. Ottawa to take on that money will trade Gonchar to pittsburgh for Despres (or) a pick or two.
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0 #57 Tcharger 2013-03-05 12:46
Quoting Doc:
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:


Or stupidity.


Agreed.

It serves no purpose if he aggravates his injury. It will only hurt the team in the long run.

I'd rather players take more time to come back at 100% then to come back still injured.

Same goes for Spezza.



EXACTLY...and this coming from a Doc

;)
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+4 #58 Tcharger 2013-03-05 12:47
Quoting jakester:
Once Andy is back there is going to be a trade with Columbus I believe. Bishop +(whatever) for Tyutin and Brassard. Thats what I think cuz the new GM in Columbus loves Bishop. Ottawa to take on that money will trade Gonchar to pittsburgh for Despres (or) a pick or two.



Interesting...n ot as out there as a lot of the things posted here.
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0 #59 jakester 2013-03-05 12:47
All still in line with our rebuild.
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-3 #60 Tookie 2013-03-05 12:48
Quoting jakester:
Maybe O'Brien is sitting cuz HE NEVER hits anybody out there. We need somebody to lay the body thats why Dziurzynski is playing. Maybe Condra will get the message and actually hit someone out there also(he never puts a shoulder into anyone either).



Yeah it is a bit ridiculous that Condra has only 5 hits in 22 games...ouch but to his defense, he is not there to hit, he's more of a pick pocket specialist!! lol

Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!
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0 #61 Kielbasa 2013-03-05 12:49
I said it before in a previous thread, and I will reiterate it again. I like Michalek, when he is healthy and on his game. If he is coming back not at 100%, what is the point? All he is doing is risking injuring himself further, and setting his recovery back.

I'd rather have him cheering from the sidelines and coming back healthy and motivated next season.
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+4 #62 SensChirp 2013-03-05 12:49
Quoting Doc:
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:


Or stupidity.


Agreed.

It serves no purpose if he aggravates his injury. It will only hurt the team in the long run.

I'd rather players take more time to come back at 100% then to come back still injured.

Same goes for Spezza.

He's playing because doctors have obviously told him that there is no risk of injuring it further I would assume.

That's why they had to wait for the swelling to do down before making a decision.
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0 #63 hq8 2013-03-05 12:49
if MM9 says he is good to go - then he is good to go. not much choice the sens have and they cannot pull what Vancouver did what Malhotra. he probably knows better and he has taken his time off too so we should put some trust in it. obviously looks like an under-pressure decision too, which it is because these guys love to win and help the team win.

whats more intriguing is Anderson not making the trip to TOR and NYC.
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-3 #64 Tookie 2013-03-05 12:52
Quoting Alcatraz:
or you trust what your vet says and feels and trust your team doctor that he is cleared to play without risk of further damge


The coaches never trust what the Vet says, the Vet ALWAYS wants to play, no matter what.

As for being medically cleared to play, sure, thats fine, comes from the Doc. But can you tell me where it says he wont risk further damage? There is no way the Doc says that, he could hurt himself the first game, he would lose his job quick.
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-1 #65 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 12:53
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Alcatraz:
or you trust what your vet says and feels and trust your team doctor that he is cleared to play without risk of further damge


The coaches never trust what the Vet says, the Vet ALWAYS wants to play, no matter what.

As for being medically cleared to play, sure, thats fine, comes from the Doc. But can you tell me where it says he wont risk further damage? There is no way the Doc says that, he could hurt himself the first game, he would lose his job quick.


Or he could wait out the year come back next year and get stomped on and rip his achilles

Things happen

You try to mimimize the risk as much as possible, but cant prevent everything
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+1 #66 Boivo 2013-03-05 12:54
here we go
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0 #67 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 12:55
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting jakester:
Maybe O'Brien is sitting cuz HE NEVER hits anybody out there. We need somebody to lay the body thats why Dziurzynski is playing. Maybe Condra will get the message and actually hit someone out there also(he never puts a shoulder into anyone either).



Yeah it is a bit ridiculous that Condra has only 5 hits in 22 games...ouch but to his defense, he is not there to hit, he's more of a pick pocket specialist!! lol

Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!


Thought about this, this morning

If he and gonchar are best friends like they say, lets just pray gonchar is loving his time in Ottawa for his family

Who knows, maybe in a few years Malkin wont want to be in Pitt anymore ;)

hahaha
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0 #68 Doc 2013-03-05 12:55
Quoting SensChirp:

He's playing because doctors have obviously told him that there is no risk of injuring it further I would assume.

That's why they had to wait for the swelling to do down before making a decision.


I hope so, but we know for a fact that players have come back too early from injuries in order to help the team (Fisher, Alfie, etc.).

Hope I'm wrong and we start to see the 2011-2012 Michalek.
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+4 #69 Cooke-d 2013-03-05 12:56
Quoting Doc:
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:


Or stupidity.


Agreed.

It serves no purpose if he aggravates his injury. It will only hurt the team in the long run.

I'd rather players take more time to come back at 100% then to come back still injured.

Same goes for Spezza.


Ya, why would the Sens want 9MM or Spezza back anyway. We're scoring enough goals without them, thank you very much!

Rediculous... let them play IF they're medically clear and feeling up to it. Injuries will happen regardless.
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-3 #70 Tookie 2013-03-05 12:57
Quoting Alcatraz:

Or he could wait out the year come back next year and get stomped on and rip his achilles

Things happen

You try to mimimize the risk as much as possible, but cant prevent everything


Yeah that can happen too and like you say its trying to minimize the risk of injury to a player that has banged up knees.

I understand the SENS need goals but whats to say an innjured Michalek can even produce? And risking another injury?
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0 #71 Cooke-d 2013-03-05 12:57
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Alcatraz:
or you trust what your vet says and feels and trust your team doctor that he is cleared to play without risk of further damge


The coaches never trust what the Vet says, the Vet ALWAYS wants to play, no matter what.

As for being medically cleared to play, sure, thats fine, comes from the Doc. But can you tell me where it says he wont risk further damage? There is no way the Doc says that, he could hurt himself the first game, he would lose his job quick.


Or he could wait out the year come back next year and get stomped on and rip his achilles

Things happen

You try to mimimize the risk as much as possible, but cant prevent everything


Tookie, you've been COOKE-D!
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0 #72 Cooke-d 2013-03-05 12:59
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Alcatraz:

Or he could wait out the year come back next year and get stomped on and rip his achilles

Things happen

You try to mimimize the risk as much as possible, but cant prevent everything


Yeah that can happen too and like you say its trying to minimize the risk of injury to a player that has bagned up knees.

I understand the SENS need goals but whats to say an innjured Michalek can even produce? And risking another injury?



lol... good point. Guess my earlier post looks a little foolish.

oh well, par for the course
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-2 #73 Tookie 2013-03-05 13:02
Quoting Cooke-d:


lol... good point. Guess my earlier post looks a little foolish.

oh well, par for the course


No prob man, I can take digs at me, most of the time they are funny and I enjoy them, I dont go whining like some we know.

And yeah I agree with Alcatraz, it is about minimizing the injury, although its impossible to 100% prevent injury, clearing Michalek to play on banged up knees is proably not the safest approach.

But tell that to Michalek :P
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-1 #74 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 13:02
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Alcatraz:

Or he could wait out the year come back next year and get stomped on and rip his achilles

Things happen

You try to mimimize the risk as much as possible, but cant prevent everything


Yeah that can happen too and like you say its trying to minimize the risk of injury to a player that has banged up knees.

I understand the SENS need goals but whats to say an innjured Michalek can even produce? And risking another injury?


The Pens made Crosby sit for like forever because of his concussion. then he came back and got concussed within a month again

Should Pittsburgh never have let him come back?

Injuries happen, and I'd be willing to bet the doc says he needs surgery to clean up the knee, but waiting any more time will not lessen the risk of re-aggravating a banged up knee
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0 #75 Doc 2013-03-05 13:03
Quoting Cooke-d:
Rediculous... let them play IF they're medically clear and feeling up to it. Injuries will happen regardless.


I think you missed the point.
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-2 #76 Tookie 2013-03-05 13:03
Quoting Boivo:
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Boivo:
here we go



Are you the Joker?


Joker??


Line from the Batman movie. (Ledger RIP)
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-1 #77 Boivo 2013-03-05 13:04
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Cooke-d:


lol... good point. Guess my earlier post looks a little foolish.

oh well, par for the course


No prob man, I can take digs at me, most of the time they are funny and I enjoy them, I dont go whining like some we know.

And yeah I agree with Alcatraz, it is about minimizing the injury, although its impossible to 100% prevent injury, clearing Michalek to play on banged up knees is proably not the safest approach.

But tell that to Michalek :P


May not be the safest approach but we need to score for god sake. Stache knows that if we get a couple goals any one of our goalies will win the game. Michalek gets a hatty against the laughs
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+5 #78 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 13:06
I'm just pumped that Michalek and Stone are back for Wednesday

Have tix to watch the sens play in leaf nation, and I could sure use the scoring boost to help the cause!
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0 #79 Bonus2MacStash 2013-03-05 13:08
Nice to see, Stoney deserves it! If you ask me, we win the series against the Rangers had he suited up for games 6, and 7 (if necessary). I love Silf but clearly a poor choice to sit Stone and Dress 33 for Games 6 and 7, I was saying it then, and I definitely still stand by it. Silf wasn't accustomed to hard nosed in your face american playoff hockey... Stone has been through the grind of big hard hitting meaningful matchups, and was more ready for it than Silf. Beauty of a pass to Spezz... Ohhh what could have been!!!

Finally Stoney gets his shot. I wouldn't be surprised if he is here to stay, not expecting it but we are definitely more dangerous offensively with him. Looking forward to it

Hopefully Stash finally tries my self named meatball line of Silf - ZBad - Alfie
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-2 #80 Tookie 2013-03-05 13:09
Quoting Alcatraz:

Should Pittsburgh never have let him come back?


Hell yes!, it was scrutinized to no end, why is even coming back, Sid should sit, dont risk your franchise player....bla bla bla. I bet they count their lucky stars EVERY night since that dreadful mistake to have Crosby healthy instead of career ending concussion.

I understand injuried cant be prevented 100% when a ehalthy player goes out and plays, but a banged up player who is very injury prone, in a season that is going well without him. (not including recent struggle).

I'm just saying I wont be surprised when he gets hurt again this year and forced to shut it down.
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+2 #81 Bonus2MacStash 2013-03-05 13:12
Hey Chirpster!

What are the chances of Murray signing Lebda to an NHL contract for the remainder of the season?

Looks good in Bingo so far with 8 points in 11 games. Has won a cup with the Wings and has almost played 400 NHL games. All things considered wouldn't be a bad idea to give him a shot.

Make it a 2 way,, worse case scenario... He goes back to Bingo if he doesn't perform well.

Played predominately with Chelios back in the day, maybe try him with Methot??? take some pressure off Gryba?

Stone going with #60 again?? or take 16 and stick with it?
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0 #82 spezzerman 2013-03-05 13:13
I have to believe that the Doctors feel the inevetible surgery will fix whatever is wrong with his knee no matter how bad it is or worse it gets so why not play out the season, help the team? Worst case (and most likely) scenario is he reagravates it to the point he cant play and has the surgery early.

I doubt if his knee was hanging by a thread to the point where his career is in jeopardy they let him play.

I'm sure that there are plenty of players playing in the league today that have nagging injuries that surgery would surely fix but don't because they can play through it.
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0 #83 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 13:14
Quoting spezzerman:
I have to believe that the Doctors feel the inevetible surgery will fix whatever is wrong with his knee no matter how bad it is or worse it gets so why not play out the season, help the team? Worst case (and most likely) scenario is he reagravates it to the point he cant play and has the surgery early.

I doubt if his knee was hanging by a thread to the point where his career is in jeopardy they let him play.

I'm sure that there are plenty of players playing in the league today that have nagging injuries that surgery would surely fix but don't because they can play through it.



Exactly which is why you always see all these maintenance surgeries in June out of no where, and the press release is always followed up with "Will be ready by September"
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0 #84 Shibal07 2013-03-05 13:17
I still don't get Macleans rationale in Silfverberg continued presence in the top six, it's not like Regin is going to dish him any good passes.

I mean logically speaking I would try out my most productive forwards in the top 6. The most productive forwards the last 2 weeks have been Greening and Zibanejad. I mean Zibanejad gets a game tying goal last game and ends up playing a measly 10 minutes. Zibanejad's 3 goals in 7 games has been the most productive of any players in the Senators in the last 2 weeks I have know idea why Maclean is not putting him in top 6 or giving him ice time equivalent to Silfverberg.
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0 #85 NadislavLagy 2013-03-05 13:19
Quoting Tookie:


Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!


Really? You'd give up Erik Karlsson + 1st for him?
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0 #86 Back checker 2013-03-05 13:19
who were the D pairings at practice?
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0 #87 MoeDozer 2013-03-05 13:20
Ottawa Senators ‏@NHL_Sens
Milan Michalek and Guillaume Latendresse both practiced today.
The lineup itself has yet to be finalized outside of Bishop in goal.
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+1 #88 Shibal07 2013-03-05 13:21
By the way Stone and Zibanejad were Da costa's wingers in the AHL when Zibanejad came back from his injury and that line was the most productive within the team during that period.
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0 #89 SensChirp 2013-03-05 13:26
Quoting Back checker:
who were the D pairings at practice?

Methot-Gryba
Wiercioch-Gonchar
Phillips-Benoit
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-3 #90 Bonus2MacStash 2013-03-05 13:29
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:
Beauty of a pass to Spezz... Ohhh what could have been!!!

Hopefully Stash finally tries my self named meatball line of Silf - ZBad - Alfie


Well 1) it wasnt a beauty pass but a regular headman pass up to an open player. (my 3 year old does the same) but yeah I agree, Stone was the obvious choice, him being a big boy from the West!

2) you will never see the Swedish Meatball line (sorry if this offends any Swedes, God know someone will be offended...)

Zibanejad is not 2C material.


regular pass?? he read Spezz's play beautifully, put it through 2 Rangers and picked McDonough's 5-hole,,,, in the playoffs.... ON ONE OF HIS FIRST SHIFTS EVER IN THE NHL....

ZBAD better be at least a Top 6 or I'm going to be bitching about missing Sheifele for years to come. Like I still do for Kopitar or M. Staal
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-9 #91 Mitchell 2013-03-05 13:29
Roman harmlik on waivers? Come on Murray!
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+4 #92 SensChirp 2013-03-05 13:31
Quoting Mitchell:
Roman harmlik on waivers? Come on Murray!

There's no way he makes it to Ottawa and if he did, I doubt the Senators be willing to take on the salary.
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+2 #93 Boivo 2013-03-05 13:33
Well 1) it wasnt a beauty pass but a regular headman pass up to an open player. (my 3 year old does the same) but yeah I agree, Stone was the obvious choice, him being a big boy from the West!

2) you will never see the Swedish Meatball line (sorry if this offends any Swedes, God know someone will be offended...)

Zibanejad is not 2C material.

regular pass?? he read Spezz's play beautifully, put it through 2 Rangers and picked McDonough's 5-hole,,,, in the playoffs.... ON ONE OF HIS FIRST SHIFTS EVER IN THE NHL....

ZBAD better be at least a Top 6 or I'm going to be bitching about missing Sheifele for years to come. Like I still do for Kopitar or M. Staal

Yeah Im going to have to second that comment on regular pass. Im sure you almost shat yourself when you saw that tooks. and apparently your 3 year old is amazing and should be up with the big boys.
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+4 #94 The Silfver Surfer 2013-03-05 13:36
I think it's great that Michalek wants to play and help the team make the playoffs...
BUT what I don't agree with is the organization letting everybody know about Michaleks situation, with all the injuries the team already has you would think they would want to keep this information on the down low. I would assume now every Matt Cooke AKA ASSHOLE in the league is going to target Michalek ESPECIALLY when we get into the playoffs if he lasts that long.
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+1 #95 Back checker 2013-03-05 13:37
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Mitchell:
Roman harmlik on waivers? Come on Murray!

There's no way he makes it to Ottawa and if he did, I doubt the Senators be willing to take on the salary.


He is pretty much done anyway, not an upgrade over what you currently have, and not worth the hit at 3.5
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+2 #96 Tcharger 2013-03-05 13:37
Quoting Boivo:


lol,, regular pass?? he read Spezz's play beautifully, put it through 2 Rangers and picked McDonough's 5-hole,,,, in the playoffs.... ON ONE OF HIS FIRST SHIFTS EVER IN THE NHL....

ZBAD better be at least a Top 6 or I'm going to be bitching about missing Sheifele for years to come. Like I still do for Kopitar or M. Staal

Yeah Im going to have to second that, pretty retarded comment on regular pass. Im sure you almost shat yourself when you saw that tooks. and apparently your 3 year old is amazing and should be up with the big boys.




WATCH OUT..shit is about to hit the fan(although far more justified in this case)
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0 #97 Bonus2MacStash 2013-03-05 13:38
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Back checker:
who were the D pairings at practice?

Methot-Gryba
Wiercioch-Gonchar
Phillips-Benoit


Thoughts on Lebda?
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0 #98 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 13:40
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Back checker:
who were the D pairings at practice?

Methot-Gryba
Wiercioch-Gonchar
Phillips-Benoit


Thoughts on Lebda?


AHL player and boro is higher on depth chart
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+1 #99 Bonus2MacStash 2013-03-05 13:42
Lol Tookie, Hit the delete button did ya???
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+6 #100 conor_smythe 2013-03-05 13:42
To be honest, Stone is my favorite of all our offensive prospects

Guys like Silfverberg and Zibby have been on our radar since day 1 but Stone was a very late pick and I think that's why I've been pulling for him a bit more

Stone is a big guy who plays a very simple game. He's not the fastest but he makes up for it with hockey IQ and rugged play

I'm looking forward to seeing if he can use his size properly at this level of play. Not expecting any miracles just hoping for a real solid effort
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0 #101 Back checker 2013-03-05 13:43
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Back checker:
who were the D pairings at practice?

Methot-Gryba
Wiercioch-Gonchar
Phillips-Benoit


Thoughts on Lebda?


AHL player and boro is higher on depth chart

Agreed. Lebda isn't an upgrade over benoit, wire or gryba. If anyone gets the call it should be Boro, and I am not certain he is quite ready yet. If something happens that we fall out of a playoff spot I would call Boro up and let him gain the experience, but wouldn't have him sit as 7th D. JMO
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+8 #102 SensChirp 2013-03-05 13:43
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:
Lol Tookie, Hit the delete button did ya???

I did
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+1 #103 Bonus2MacStash 2013-03-05 13:44
You can even say Stone put it through 3 Rangers!
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+4 #104 Shibal07 2013-03-05 13:45
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:
[quote name="Tookie"][quote name="Bonus2MacStash"]Beauty of a pass to Spezz... Ohhh what could have been!!!


ZBAD better be at least a Top 6 or I'm going to be bitching about missing Sheifele for years to come. Like I still do for Kopitar or M. Staal


Really don't understand your love for
Mark Scheifele, because that guy was not even supposed to be within the top 10. He is also a very in consistent player, some games he looks amazing, other games he is a no show. His last two world junior performance have really disappointing as well.

I personally think the sens did not really miss out any one when they drafted Zibanejad, sure it's not right to compare right now, but Couturier has the same amount of points as Zibanejad right now while playing over 18 minutes a game and having 1 year of NHL experience. Sven Baertschi has 1 point. Dougie Hamilton is a defenceman that sens did not need at the time aswell.
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0 #105 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 13:49
Quoting Shibal07:


Really don't understand your love for
Mark Scheifele, because that guy was not even supposed to be within the top 10. He is also a very in consistent player, some games he looks amazing, other games he is a no show. His last two world junior performance have really disappointing as well.

I personally think the sens did not really miss out any one when they drafted Zibanejad, sure it's not right to compare right now, but Couturier has the same amount of points as Zibanejad right now while playing over 18 minutes a game and having 1 year of NHL experience. Sven Baertschi has 1 point. Dougie Hamilton is a defenceman that sens did not need at the time aswell.


Chicago has had the best draft with Saad and Shaw coming from that draft. Its still early but the best player is and will be landeskog

If zib could stay close with couts and larsson in terms of impact ill be thrilled
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-2 #106 Cooke-d 2013-03-05 13:49
Quoting Doc:
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:


Or stupidity.


Agreed... I'd rather players take more time to come back at 100% then to come back still injured.

Same goes for Spezza.



Quoting Doc:
Quoting Cooke-d:
Rediculous... let them play IF they're medically clear and feeling up to it. Injuries will happen regardless.


I think you missed the point.


Did I?
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-3 #107 Doc 2013-03-05 13:57
Quoting Cooke-d:
Did I?


You did.
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0 #108 Shibal07 2013-03-05 13:59
Chicago has had the best draft with Saad and Shaw coming from that draft. Its still early but the best player is and will be landeskog

If zib could stay close with couts and larsson in terms of impact ill be thrilled

Zibanejad is the closest thing to Landeskog the Senators drafted because both of them play a similar style of game, they are also childhood buddies.
Once Zibanejad gets converted to the wing and figures out the game he should be more of a Milan Michalek or Evander Kane style player.

Saad and Shaw are benefiting from playing within a team that is on a 22 game point streak, 5 points in 21 games for Saad is pretty disappointing number for a guy that is playing on a really hot offensively charged team.
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0 #109 MoeDozer 2013-03-05 14:00
Quoting Alcatraz:
Its still early but the best player is and will be landeskog

i wouldnt count out huberdeu who already has 10goals in 22 games, lando only put together 22 in his 82game rookie campaign. or RNH who also outscored both those guys in his rookie year in points per game for best player of that draft already...

although im not saying lando cant be the best, im a huge lando fan and also had fingers crossed we draft him with our highest pick then move up to get zib with our other pick
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0 #110 Shibal07 2013-03-05 14:10
RNH has been struggling mightily this year. Has only 1 goal and 7 points in 20 some games.

I personally think that Huberdeau is the best player from that draft, because he is putting up amazing numbers without Hall or Eberle caliber players.
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0 #111 MoeDozer 2013-03-05 14:14
Quoting Shibal07:
RNH has been struggling mightily this year. Has only 1 goal and 7 points in 20 some games.

I personally think that Huberdeau is the best player from that draft, because he is putting up amazing numbers without Hall or Eberle caliber players.

and its not from a lack of effort on RNH's struggles. ill blame this season on the infamous "sophmore slump".

but yes i do agree on huberdeau hes basically already carrying the team on his back, and will be doing that for a majority of his career in florida.
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+4 #112 boom 2013-03-05 14:19
Quoting Shibal07:
RNH has been struggling mightily this year. Has only 1 goal and 7 points in 20 some games.

I personally think that Huberdeau is the best player from that draft, because he is putting up amazing numbers without Hall or Eberle caliber players.

RNH is not a top 6 player, right Tookie?
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+4 #113 hq8 2013-03-05 14:22
watched a few FLA games and the huberdeau kid is fun to watch. plays big.

but.....i like our zibs game more - just has more flair to it. i think he will be a special player for the sens soon. just needs to shoot more, needs to be more selfish when puck is on his stick.
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+4 #114 RUSHRLZ 2013-03-05 14:27
Wow, quite the comments today...

Anyone who is ready to write off Z-Bad as a second liner - either you are really daft or I feel sorry for you frankly having such negativity about a prospect like that.

Given the crazy year we are having, the development curve and all the the rookies we are throwing to the wolves this year without a lot of veteran assistance... all of that pressure.

He will be great. These things take time.

I would fully expect by the time this season is said and done a lot of people will be singing a different tune about Turris, ZBad and Regin also.
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0 #115 Shibal07 2013-03-05 14:30
Quoting hq8:
watched a few FLA games and the huberdeau kid is fun to watch. plays big.

but.....i like our zibs game more - just has more flair to it. i think he will be a special player for the sens soon. just needs to shoot more, needs to be more selfish when puck is on his stick.


Exactly he had a chance to get a second goal against the islanders last game from the one and only Condra setting hip with the give and go, having clear shot in close of the net he instead elected to make a pass to a covered Silfv.

As I said before once Zibanejad figures out the game, and enhances his decision making skills he should become an impact player. I have already noticed that Zibanejad has scored 3 game tying goals already.
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+4 #116 hq8 2013-03-05 14:32
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Wow, quite the comments today...

Anyone who is ready to write off Z-Bad as a second liner - either you are really daft or I feel sorry for you frankly having such negativity about a prospect like that.


that and people questioning MM9's decision to play to extreme lengths. on one hand this whole fanbase complains for a scoring winger and when said scoring winger says he is going to play but still have surgery at season's end, the fanbase churns and howls.
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+1 #117 willie_008 2013-03-05 14:32
1- 'll admit I was a bit worried about Zibanejad. I now believe he is going to be a great player in the NHL if he stays healthy. He's 19 everybody. And he's contributing at both ends of the ice. Wait til he's 23-24.

2- Will be nice to see what Stone can do at this level. Am disappointed we don't get to see him with Spezz... think there is some chemistry there obviously.
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+1 #118 Silfver 2013-03-05 14:33
Very excited for tomorrow nights game. I love the way that Stone plays, really has been a diamond in the rough. Also pleased to here that Michalek is back in the line up. Hopefully he sticks to Even Strength and Power Play. No need to have him out there blocking shots on the PK with a bunged knee.

Its also good to have another veteran forward back in the line up to help out the young guys.
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+1 #119 hq8 2013-03-05 14:35
Quoting Shibal07:

Exactly he had a chance to get a second goal against the islanders last game from the one and only Condra setting hip with the give and go, having clear shot in close of the net he instead elected to make a pass to a covered Silfv.

As I said before once Zibanejad figures out the game, and enhances his decision making skills he should become an impact player. I have already noticed that Zibanejad has scored 3 game tying goals already.


yup, and dont forget what he did to the leafs in dying seconds with that faceoff win.
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-2 #120 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 14:36
Quoting Silfver:
Very excited for tomorrow nights game. I love the way that Stone plays, really has been a diamond in the rough. Also pleased to here that Michalek is back in the line up. Hopefully he sticks to Even Strength and Power Play. No need to have him out there blocking shots on the PK with a bunged knee.

Its also good to have another veteran forward back in the line up to help out the young guys.


way way way WAY to positive of a post for this site.....
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-3 #121 hq8 2013-03-05 14:38
is this top 6 realistic to expect in 2014 october - barring any crazy surprising acquisitions that BM might make:

stone-spezz-silf
zib-turris-noesen

size on both lines with a good helping of talent and speed.
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+3 #122 Silfver 2013-03-05 14:38
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Silfver:
Very excited for tomorrow nights game. I love the way that Stone plays, really has been a diamond in the rough. Also pleased to here that Michalek is back in the line up. Hopefully he sticks to Even Strength and Power Play. No need to have him out there blocking shots on the PK with a bunged knee.

Its also good to have another veteran forward back in the line up to help out the young guys.


way way way WAY to positive of a post for this site.....


Haha sorry not totally accustomed to the posting rules yet... just used to reading the rubbish negativity over the years.
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+1 #123 Phoenix 2013-03-05 14:39
Quoting jakester:
Once Andy is back there is going to be a trade with Columbus I believe. Bishop +(whatever) for Tyutin and Brassard. Thats what I think cuz the new GM in Columbus loves Bishop. Ottawa to take on that money will trade Gonchar to pittsburgh for Despres (or) a pick or two.


If the GM is that interested I'd pass on those contracts of Brassard and Tyutin and ask for Ryan Johansen.
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-5 #124 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 14:42
Quoting Phoenix:
Quoting jakester:
Once Andy is back there is going to be a trade with Columbus I believe. Bishop +(whatever) for Tyutin and Brassard. Thats what I think cuz the new GM in Columbus loves Bishop. Ottawa to take on that money will trade Gonchar to pittsburgh for Despres (or) a pick or two.


If the GM is that interested I'd pass on those contracts of Brassard and Tyutin and ask for Ryan Johansen.


I wouldn't trade him to CLB unless we are getting a rockstar back. just dont like the leclaire and filatov trades right now. too many trades with them lol

I'll say it everyday we should be trading Bishop to minny

Backstrom is leaving, and unfortunately harding is a question mark medically

Bishop++ for coyle

or

Bishop for setogucci straight up
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+5 #125 McLovin 2013-03-05 14:49
Quoting Alcatraz:


I wouldn't trade him to CLB unless we are getting a rockstar back. just dont like the leclaire and filatov trades right now. too many trades with them lol


What part of getting lehner don't you like?
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+7 #126 MoeDozer 2013-03-05 14:54
Quoting Alcatraz:

I'll say it everyday we should be trading Bishop to minny

Backstrom is leaving, and unfortunately harding is a question mark medically

Bishop++ for coyle

or

Bishop for setogucci straight up

um not to pop your bubble but you do realize minny may be the deepest team in goaltending
backstrom, harding, kuemper, hackett, gustaffson.

last of their worries is goaltending.
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+1 #127 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 14:55
Quoting McLovin:
Quoting Alcatraz:


I wouldn't trade him to CLB unless we are getting a rockstar back. just dont like the leclaire and filatov trades right now. too many trades with them lol


What part of getting lehner don't you like?


We drafted lehner big difference. we easily could have gotten jeremy morin or ethan werek with that pick

We made that deal for leclaire not for lehner

Am I happy we have Lehner? of course. Was he who we wanted in that deal? no
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+1 #128 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 14:57
Quoting MoeDozer:
Quoting Alcatraz:

I'll say it everyday we should be trading Bishop to minny

Backstrom is leaving, and unfortunately harding is a question mark medically

Bishop++ for coyle

or

Bishop for setogucci straight up

um not to pop your bubble but you do realize minny may be the deepest team in goaltending
backstrom, harding, kuemper, hackett, gustaffson.

last of their worries is goaltending.


Backstrom is UFA
Harding unfortunately has MS and wil be day to day for rest of his career

other 3 guys you mentioned are good prospects, but if your the wild who just paid through the roof for suter+Parise, you really wanna hinge your bet on unproven goalies who are 20?
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+2 #129 A Train 2013-03-05 14:57
Y'all need to chill a bit on Zibanejad. He's still only 19 and these things take time. Personally I wish he could have played this full season in AHL building size and knowldege of the game.

Look at what is happening in Toronto with Kadri right now. The entire fan base was calling him a bust just a few months ago and calling Burke a moron for not trading him for Luongo.
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0 #130 Sandy 2013-03-05 14:58
Good to see Stone get a chance.

Heard on the Team 1200 yesterday that if you looked at the Sens lineup on the weekend.. you had 2 goal scorers on the Sens in Turris & Alfie. You then had a bunch of checker & muckers and then a bunch of kids.

No wonder the Sens are having trouble scoring in games. They seem to go for the perfect shot or the perfect pass.. rather than just shoot on the net.

Sens sit 29th in the NHL for goals for. Edmonton with it's highly touted and highly skilled first overall picks in RNH, Hall, and Yakupov and highly skilled Eberle.. sit 25th in the NHL for goals for.

Now for goals against the Sens are #2 in the NHL behind only Chicago. Something they should be proud of.

As for Hamrlik his contract is over this season. 3.5M -- but it's really only half of that at 1.75. Yeah he is up there in age.. but he;s also experienced.
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0 #131 McLovin 2013-03-05 14:59
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting McLovin:
Quoting Alcatraz:


I wouldn't trade him to CLB unless we are getting a rockstar back. just dont like the leclaire and filatov trades right now. too many trades with them lol


What part of getting lehner don't you like?


We drafted lehner big difference. we easily could have gotten jeremy morin or ethan werek with that pick

We made that deal for leclaire not for lehner

Am I happy we have Lehner? of course. Was he who we wanted in that deal? no


well played sir.
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-1 #132 Sandy 2013-03-05 15:00
Bruce Garrioch‏@SunGarrioch

Anderson hasn't responded. He will stay off the ice. #Sens


Latendresse also experienced migranes. He said he did not have a concussion.
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0 #133 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 15:03
Quoting Sandy:
Bruce Garrioch‏@SunGarrioch

Anderson hasn't responded. He will stay off the ice. #Sens


Latendresse also experienced migranes. He said he did not have a concussion.


Ya anderson did not travel with team to toronto/new york

He hasn't suffered any setbacks, he just hasn't responded as expected so no point travelling

Stay home work with trainers and build it back up while team sits on trains and planes
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-1 #134 Phoenix 2013-03-05 15:03
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Phoenix:
Quoting jakester:
Once Andy is back there is going to be a trade with Columbus I believe. Bishop +(whatever) for Tyutin and Brassard. Thats what I think cuz the new GM in Columbus loves Bishop. Ottawa to take on that money will trade Gonchar to pittsburgh for Despres (or) a pick or two.


If the GM is that interested I'd pass on those contracts of Brassard and Tyutin and ask for Ryan Johansen.


I wouldn't trade him to CLB unless we are getting a rockstar back. just dont like the leclaire and filatov trades right now. too many trades with them lol

I'll say it everyday we should be trading Bishop to minny

Backstrom is leaving, and unfortunately harding is a question mark medically

Bishop++ for coyle

or

Bishop for setogucci straight up


No thanks for seto, gotta strike when the iron is hot and seto is worth at best a 3rd.
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0 #135 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 15:09
seto only worth a 3rd? lol

107 goals in 327gp

lowest goal total for full season is 19. has put up 31,22,20 and 19 goal seasons (the 22 and 20 were in 70g)

Not saying he is christ, but he is worth much much more than a 3rd

and he is only 3 mill a season for this and next then UFA

I think he would fit tremendously alongside Turris
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0 #136 SensFanInMTL 2013-03-05 15:10
I still haven't given up on Michalek just yet. He and Stone drawing in the line up restores some offensive skill hopefully.
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-3 #137 spezzerman 2013-03-05 15:14
I'd take Setoguchi for a 3rd.
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+4 #138 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 15:15
Quoting spezzerman:
I'd take Setoguchi for a 3rd.


The ENTIRE league would take setogucci for a 3rd considering Mike Brown was traded for a 3rd lol
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+5 #139 Tcharger 2013-03-05 15:17
I'd take Malkin for a 4th!
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+1 #140 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 15:18
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
I'd take Malkin for a 4th!


I dunno he has a concussion history. I wouldn't. He should probably sit for rest of year as to not re-aggravate it
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+1 #141 Tcharger 2013-03-05 15:19
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
I'd take Malkin for a 4th!


I dunno he has a concussion history. I wouldn't. He should probably sit for rest of year as to not re-aggravate it



Yeah, damn what was I thinking...how about a late 7th? Or maybe Malkin and Crosby for a 4th then.
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-1 #142 spezzerman 2013-03-05 15:21
Setoguchi would be an ideal player to target. With all the skill that Minny has coming up he is likely seen as expendable and you wouldn't have to overpay. He has decent size, makes a couple hits a game and scores 20g consistently. Plus he is still young and surely has 30g potential.
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0 #143 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 15:22
Quoting spezzerman:
Setoguchi would be an ideal player to target. With all the skill that Minny has coming up he is likely seen as expendable and you wouldn't have to overpay. He has decent size, makes a couple hits a game and scores 20g consistently. Plus he is still young and surely has 30g potential.


I agree

I forgot they have hackett and gufasson in net but I think they could still be interested in Bishop as a 1a and hackett 1b type tandem

Hopefully they are interested
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-3 #144 Boivo 2013-03-05 15:23
Keep the jokes coming they are soooooooooo funny
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-2 #145 hq8 2013-03-05 15:24
Hamrlik is serviceable and could play in either Benoit or Gryba's spot - easily.

Would be a slam-dunk help on our PP because then they can roll:
Wier-Gonch
Phillips-Hamrlik.
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0 #146 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 15:28
Quoting hq8:
Hamrlik is serviceable and could play in either Benoit or Gryba's spot - easily.

Would be a slam-dunk help on our PP because then they can roll:
Wier-Gonch
Phillips-Hamrlik.


Only reason Id be interested is to eb able to say we have had both Yashin+Hamrlik from the 1992 Entry draft (1+2)
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-7 #147 Tookie 2013-03-05 15:31
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting Tookie:


Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!


Really? You'd give up Erik Karlsson + 1st for him?


Yes...ok maybe not + a first but Karlsson for Malkin anyday of the week.
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0 #148 hq8 2013-03-05 15:31
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting hq8:
Hamrlik is serviceable and could play in either Benoit or Gryba's spot - easily.

Would be a slam-dunk help on our PP because then they can roll:
Wier-Gonch
Phillips-Hamrlik.


Only reason Id be interested is to eb able to say we have had both Yashin+Hamrlik from the 1992 Entry draft (1+2)


yea, but one of the reasons the sens are sucking dirty pond water in scoring is that their PP back end is severely undermanned. Phillips was never that good on the PP, but he is ok because he can surprise you with the shot sometime. but Benoit and I think we even saw Methot and gryba once too....thats just sad to watch on the PP. He has a good shot and can be useful and is available for free.

not to mention, sens are out of NHL-ready D as of Lundin's concussion. Borocop is good for callups, but cannot minute-munch.
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0 #149 CardiacKids 2013-03-05 15:35
regardless of lines.. just great to have some of the players back... Coach knows ... i mean KNOWS... who brings what to the game...and how he can use who to create chances.. he has a good eye to see who is really going with who during the game so these lines are just a drop in the ocean really...clearl y his comment “Bishop to king’s three. Checkmate” tells you he is strategic and things multiple moves ahead...
I predict a competitive and passionate team on the ice! and of course SENS WIN!
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0 #150 Cooke-d 2013-03-05 15:42
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting spezzerman:
I'd take Setoguchi for a 3rd.


The ENTIRE league would take setogucci for a 3rd considering Mike Brown was traded for a 3rd lol


AWESOME! I don't understand what the Oil were thinking... another 1st overall maybe? But then why give up a pick at all if you plan on tanking?

Is Oil management that bad, or do they REALLY need Brown?
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+1 #151 NadislavLagy 2013-03-05 15:43
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting Tookie:


Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!


Really? You'd give up Erik Karlsson + 1st for him?


Yes...ok maybe not + a first but Karlsson for Malkin anyday of the week.


Well you're in the minority on that one... no idea why anyone would trade one of if not the best defenceman in the NHL for one of the best forwards in the NHL. Defence is just as important as offence, and Karlsson brings both.
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+2 #152 Hax 2013-03-05 15:49
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting Tookie:


Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!


Really? You'd give up Erik Karlsson + 1st for him?


Yes...ok maybe not + a first but Karlsson for Malkin anyday of the week.


EK is the best player in the game. Not worth a straight up trade for Malkin IMO. I'd consider Malkin plus Pitt's first though.
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-2 #153 Alcatraz 2013-03-05 15:50
Quoting Boivo:
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:
Lol Tookie, Hit the delete button did ya???


Sorry busy...working...lol

Not gonna argue that the pass was a simple play followed by a weak shot through "The King's" 5 hole. I was happy they scored but the play was far from a beauty...


you are seriously delusional


I'll actually defend Tookie to a certain degree here

It was a nice goal, but nothing exceptional. It was a great soft touch to headman the puck, but had Spezza not found a way to squeek it through Lundquists legs, we would have never remembered that play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXW0a4g_6T4

thats the play in question, and it was a great pass to put it through his legs, but its not like how some people here who have said he thread it through two dmen then through the legs

Great pass, but not legendary
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0 #154 RUSHRLZ 2013-03-05 15:53
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting Tookie:


Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!


Really? You'd give up Erik Karlsson + 1st for him?


Yes...ok maybe not + a first but Karlsson for Malkin anyday of the week.


EK is the best player in the game. Not worth a straight up trade for Malkin IMO. I'd consider Malkin plus Pitt's first though.


If they were in the west I would consider that if it wasn't a really low 1st.
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+5 #155 RUSHRLZ 2013-03-05 15:55
From Syl St Laurent via 6th Sens, this is a deadly interesting Murray interview regarding his approach to this years trade deadline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf65YWBxpkQ#!
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+8 #156 Hax 2013-03-05 15:55
Three way trade:

To Pittsburgh: Karlsson
To Ottawa: Malkin and Calgary's 1st
To Calgary: A manual on understanding offer sheets in the new CBA
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+1 #157 Hax 2013-03-05 15:56
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
From Syl St Laurent via 6th Sens, this is a deadly interesting Murray interview regarding his approach to this years trade deadline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf65YWBxpkQ#!


Transcript or Coles notes version?
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+2 #158 SensChirp 2013-03-05 16:01
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
From Syl St Laurent via 6th Sens, this is a deadly interesting Murray interview regarding his approach to this years trade deadline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf65YWBxpkQ#!

This is excellent. Have added to the top of the post
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+1 #159 NadislavLagy 2013-03-05 16:03
Quoting jakester:
Once Andy is back there is going to be a trade with Columbus I believe. Bishop +(whatever) for Tyutin and Brassard. Thats what I think cuz the new GM in Columbus loves Bishop. Ottawa to take on that money will trade Gonchar to pittsburgh for Despres (or) a pick or two.


Would you trade Cowen + picks for Gonchar if he wasn't on the Sens?
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+1 #160 Hax 2013-03-05 16:13
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting jakester:
Once Andy is back there is going to be a trade with Columbus I believe. Bishop +(whatever) for Tyutin and Brassard. Thats what I think cuz the new GM in Columbus loves Bishop. Ottawa to take on that money will trade Gonchar to pittsburgh for Despres (or) a pick or two.


Would you trade Cowen + picks for Gonchar if he wasn't on the Sens?


Yeah no way Pitt gives up Despres for Gonchar - not unless it's somehow Gonchar from 5 years ago and they decide they have to try and win a cup this year.
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+3 #161 Doc 2013-03-05 16:17
From Murray:

"Are we getting a number of the injured players back? And are they healthy? And are they able to play at a good level because of missing a number of games? ... Or do we continue to show patience and because we don’t have a couple of key guys playing, do we just wait and hopefully, as we look past that, look at the bigger picture?"
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+5 #162 Hax 2013-03-05 16:39
Ottawa Senators ‏@NHL_Sens

Milan Michalek is ready for the Battle of Ontario. http://ottsens.com/YUwklG
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-2 #163 taxman 2013-03-05 16:49
Listening to that interview, it sure sounds like Murray is aggressively going after Perry. He goes out of his way a couple of times to indicate that "if you could get osmeone in their late 20's who would be with us for a while," or "you don't subtract, without getting a real good player back..."

Combiine thi with the comments about "those kinds of trades (for good players)" being hard, and the fact that such big trades usually take a while to put together, and considering that Chrip's been reporting that Murray's been speaking with Anaheim for several months now, it sure sounds like Perry is the number one target.

Murray also says that you don't make a trade with a team who is going somewhere this year, which leads me to believe the trade for Perry (if it happens) would be on draft day.
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+2 #164 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-03-05 17:46
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting Tookie:


Anyone seen Malkin's goal in his first game back...OMG

I would give up (enter any name here + any pick) for him!!!


Really? You'd give up Erik Karlsson + 1st for him?


Yes...ok maybe not + a first but Karlsson for Malkin anyday of the week.


EK is the best player in the game. Not worth a straight up trade for Malkin IMO. I'd consider Malkin plus Pitt's first though.



Did you guys forget, that both Murray and Melnyk said, the only player who is untouchable is Erik Karlsson.

And this was before he was named the Norris Trophy winner last year !!
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-2 #165 Back checker 2013-03-05 17:51
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting hq8:
Hamrlik is serviceable and could play in either Benoit or Gryba's spot - easily.

Would be a slam-dunk help on our PP because then they can roll:
Wier-Gonch
Phillips-Hamrlik.


Hamrlik has played a grand total of 4 games this year, believe me his best days are behind him.....unless you are looking to set a record for oldest D pairing with gonch

Only reason Id be interested is to eb able to say we have had both Yashin+Hamrlik from the 1992 Entry draft (1+2)
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+5 #166 Back checker 2013-03-05 18:01
I think the thing I am most happy with this year is BM's patience in the face of adversity. All those injuries and he has just stayed the course and filled the spots with organizational depth that has in turn, responded better than anyone could have imagined and are gaining valuable experience.
What we don't need is Ottawa to be a graveyard for old guys past their prime who are being waved by their respective teams (like Hamrlik). They are being waved for a reason, and our youngsters are currently holding down a playoff spot. IF BM sees an organizational need that can be filled (i.e.. a scoring winger) that can be had for the right price I am sure he will pull the trigger.
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+4 #167 Hax 2013-03-05 18:07
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Did you guys forget, that both Murray and Melnyk said, the only player who is untouchable is Erik Karlsson.

And this was before he was named the Norris Trophy winner last year !!


Nobody (in their right mind) really thinks EK will ever be traded.
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+2 #168 timwrx 2013-03-05 19:09
Binghamton just signed this kid.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=59093
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+1 #169 SensChirp 2013-03-05 19:21
Quoting timwrx:
Binghamton just signed this kid.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=59093

A little more on the Craven signing

http://www.nescachockey.com/2013/02/wesleyans-nick-craven-to-sign-ato.html
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+8 #170 A Train 2013-03-05 19:30
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting timwrx:
Binghamton just signed this kid.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=59093

A little more on the Craven signing

http://www.nescachockey.com/2013/02/wesleyans-nick-craven-to-sign-ato.html


First Cornell, now Wesleyan. If the NHL ever ditches the shootout for a debate on the merits of post-structural ist theory we are gonna be set.
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-5 #171 jakester 2013-03-05 20:08
Chirp, people talk about Landeskog but the Superstar out of that draft was and will be Jonathan Huberdeau IMO.

I like Silfverberg but I don't think he'll be a Superstar in the NHL, good player yes.
this is CRAZY but I would offer Craig Anderson and Jakob Silfverberg for Jonathan Huberdeau.

Huberdeau just has Guy Lafleur written all over him. Imagine the fans from our neighbouring province who would become instant Sens fans.
then you sign Corey Perry in the off season.Boom

Huberdeau-Spezza-Perry
Michalek-TUrris-Zibby
Hoffman-(DaCosta or Regin)-Stone
Greening-Smith(or whoever)-Neil
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0 #172 jakester 2013-03-05 20:10
Karlsson-Methot
Cowen-Ceci
WIorcioch-Gryba
Phillips-Boro

Bishop-Lehner

And Bingo still loaded best team in AHL.
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-1 #173 jakester 2013-03-05 20:11
Now that's a lineup.
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0 #174 Tcharger 2013-03-05 20:16
Quoting jakester:
Chirp, people talk about Landeskog but the Superstar out of that draft was and will be Jonathan Huberdeau IMO.

I like Silfverberg but I don't think he'll be a Superstar in the NHL, good player yes.
this is CRAZY but I would offer Craig Anderson and Jakob Silfverberg for Jonathan Huberdeau.

Huberdeau just has Guy Lafleur written all over him. Imagine the fans from our neighbouring province who would become instant Sens fans.
then you sign Corey Perry in the off season.Boom

Huberdeau-Spezza-Perry
Michalek-TUrris-Zibby
Hoffman-(DaCosta or Regin)-Stone
Greening-Smith(or whoever)-Neil



I keep wanting to knock it...and say hell no, but I can't.

I do agree Huberdeau will be the best player from that draft.

Still don't think I would move Silfverberg though.
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0 #175 jakester 2013-03-05 20:23
You take a swipe at it now cuz when he scores 50 next year , he'll be untouchable. Plus you take back the bank against the Habs. Fans from la Belle Province would be screaming his name.
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+1 #176 Floridasensfan 2013-03-05 20:46
After listening to BM we are not sellers at the deadline at all unless out of playoff contention.

No subtractions, also kind of sounded like signing Gonchar to another year was an option.
I guess if BM was thinking of trading him he would say the same thing, thinking of keeping him you are going to have to pay more if you want him.

very interesting listen.
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+15 #177 IcySurfas 2013-03-05 20:58
My daughter is in the news!

ottawasun.com/.../...

p.s. Completely non hockey related. I cant wait for my little girl to get these glasses and be able to see a Sens game for the first time.
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+3 #178 jakester 2013-03-05 21:34
Isles beat the Habs great!
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+3 #179 AllStarAlfie 2013-03-05 21:37
@IcySurfas
Not sure if its just me but your link doesn't work. Anyways I searched the article up and I'm thrilled for your daughter! I know the CEO of eSight, Kevin Rankin, and he is a good friend of my father. He is a great, classy guy and I hope this product will help so many in the future!
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+3 #180 jakester 2013-03-05 21:46
Wow exciting stuff Icysurfas - hope all goes well. I have twin boys and one of my boys is autistic - he's getting ABA therapy now going on 2 years and will be in regular school with his brother in Sept. Was barely talking 2 years ago. amazing what can be accomplished nowadays. I hope this opens up the world to your daughter!
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0 #181 St Nick 2013-03-05 21:52
Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson
Silfverberg - Regin - Stone
Greening - Zibanejad - Condra
Z. Smith - JOB - Neil/Daugavins/DD

Methot - Benoit
Wiercioch - Gonchar
Phillips - Gryba/Boroweicki

Bishop - Lehner
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+5 #182 SensChirp 2013-03-05 21:54
Quoting IcySurfas:
My daughter is in the news!

ottawasun.com/.../...

p.s. Completely non hockey related. I cant wait for my little girl to get these glasses and be able to see a Sens game for the first time.

This is awesome. Thanks for sharing. Hope the upcoming fundraiser is a huge success!
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0 #183 CohMa 2013-03-05 22:07
Mark Spector Sports ‏@SportsnetSpec
Scouts @ STL-LAK: RT @helenenothelen : CGY, OTT, DET (2), PHI, MON, COL, TBL, WSH, MIN, EDM, SJ, TOR and PHX all listed on seating chart.
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0 #184 Mr Hockey 2013-03-05 22:19
Chirp any idea if the Sens have interest in signing other college players?
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+1 #185 Hax 2013-03-05 22:23
Quoting Floridasensfan:
After listening to BM we are not sellers at the deadline at all unless out of playoff contention.


Great interview for sure.

And really, with the shortened season unless we lose 15 games in a row there's no way we'll be 100% "out of contention". We could be in 10th place and realistically unlikely to crack the playoffs, but it's almost mathematically impossible for us to be in clear seller mode.

Don't think Gonchar goes anywhere unless someone offers the moon for him AND our young guys continue to over-perform.

As for next year, I think despite Murray's somewhat bitter comments alluding to Cooke-type players injuring guys all the time, I can't see us giving Gonchar a roster spot that we could instead have Wiercioch, Gryba, Ceci, Borowiecki and Benoit fighting over (not to mention other dark horses). But I'm not as opposed to another year as I once was.
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0 #186 hq8 2013-03-05 22:32
was gonchar in washington when BM was boss there?
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0 #187 Hax 2013-03-05 22:35
Quoting hq8:
was gonchar in washington when BM was boss there?


Don't think so. Gonchar was a Capital between 1994 and 2004 and Murray left for Detroit in 1990.
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+4 #188 T K 2013-03-05 22:59
Quoting IcySurfas:
My daughter is in the news!

ottawasun.com/.../...

p.s. Completely non hockey related. I cant wait for my little girl to get these glasses and be able to see a Sens game for the first time.

My best wishes are with you and your daughter. Hope it goes well.
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-1 #189 SensFanInMTL 2013-03-05 23:10
Don't care how angry people here get or how many thumbs down is received. The fact that Perry becoming a UFA is almost apparent, I sincerely hope Murray and company do their absolutely best and a must to sign him, plain and simple. I'm sick of these makeshift late rounders of 5th, 6th and 7th rounder experiments (with the exception of Alife & Stone) playing alongside elite 1st line playmaker of a Spezza. Perry can be the winger and monster scorer coming into the 2013-2014 season since having Heatley. It'll be a new start to Perry and someone for Spezza to dish the puck to. With a tandem of Spezza/ Perry, almost anyone can be thrown in on the LW. Not taking anything away from Greening and Michalek but a Spezza/ Perry tandem can finally somewhat equalize for when teams like the Flyers or Penguins face us. In the end, it'll all be up to Perry.

Regardless, the team moving forward is going to look absolutely mental, would only assume.
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-5 #190 The Apostle 2013-03-05 23:16
Actually I think Murray stated in that interview (reading between the lines of course) that's he knows he could get Perry but he isn't going to just to piss off sens fans in Montreal.
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+1 #191 dot dash dot dot 2013-03-05 23:46
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
Don't care how angry people here get or how many thumbs down is received. The fact that Perry becoming a UFA is almost apparent, I sincerely hope Murray and company do their best and him, plain and simple. I'm sick of these makeshift late rounders of 5th, 6th and 7th rounder experiments (with the exception of Alife & Stone) playing alongside elite 1st line playmaker of a Spezza. Perry can be the winger and monster scorer coming into the 2013-2014 season since having Heatley. It'll be a new start to Perry and someone for Spezza to dish the puck to. With a tandem of Spezza/ Perry, almost anyone can be thrown in on the LW. Not taking anything away from Greening and Michalek but a Spezza/ Perry tandem can finally somewhat equalize for when teams like the Flyers or Penguins face us. In the end, it'll all be up to Perry.
Regardless, the team moving forward is going to look absolutely mental, would only assume.


Caffeine overdose ?
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0 #192 from boo boo 2013-03-06 00:35
The Senators were offered D Roman Hamrlik by Capitals GM George McPhee last month in a trade when the club was struggling with injuries and declined. Don't expect the club to make a claim because Washington put him on waivers Tuesday.
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-6 #193 King Richard 2013-03-06 00:56
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
Don't care how angry people here get or how many thumbs down is received. The fact that Perry becoming a UFA is almost apparent, I sincerely hope Murray and company do their absolutely best and a must to sign him, plain and simple.


How long will you cry when the Leafs sign Perry in the first hour of free agency ?
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+1 #194 SensFanInMTL 2013-03-06 02:00
Quoting King Richard:
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
Don't care how angry people here get or how many thumbs down is received. The fact that Perry becoming a UFA is almost apparent, I sincerely hope Murray and company do their absolutely best and a must to sign him, plain and simple.


How long will you cry when the Leafs sign Perry in the first hour of free agency ?

I'm extremely curious as to how you would make up your 3 man, 4 line combos and who we should target come UFA. I would love your to hear read your input.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnFUTGsVMuA
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0 #195 Mexican Baby Jesus 2013-03-06 02:25
Huberdeau for Anderson straight up?
Or am I dreaming?
Ok...Huberdeau for Anderson and 1st and 3rd?
Still dreaming?
He is probably the only untouchable on that team
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0 #196 Dirk Diggler 2013-03-06 07:20
Huberdeau will not be traded from FLA. He is their future and they will not part with him for Anderson, Silfverberg and a 1st. If they were to accept tht trade we would be laughing!
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0 #197 SensChirp 2013-03-06 07:40
As of this morning I noticed Craig Anderson is listed as being on the IR. Has that been the case all along?

http://senators.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

Only noticed now because his status changed in Yahoo Fantasy Hockey.
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0 #198 Dirk Diggler 2013-03-06 07:56
Quoting SensChirp:
As of this morning I noticed Craig Anderson is listed as being on the IR. Has that been the case all along?

http://senators.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

Only noticed now because his status changed in Yahoo Fantasy Hockey.

Not sure... Doesn't matter really, maybe they put him on to get cap relief (or budget relief) and can activate him anytime since he has been down for a while, he was probably placed on IR retroactively.
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+4 #199 IcySurfas 2013-03-06 08:23
Quoting AllStarAlfie:
@IcySurfas
Not sure if its just me but your link doesn't work. Anyways I searched the article up and I'm thrilled for your daughter! I know the CEO of eSight, Kevin Rankin, and he is a good friend of my father. He is a great, classy guy and I hope this product will help so many in the future!


Hey, small world. Thats great that you know him. This ottawa based company is going to get alot of attention with this ground-breaking technology. Thanks so much for the kind words.

Not sure why the link didnt work in the original post. http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/03/05/high-tech-glasses-helps-little-girl-see-clearly-for-first-time

Cheers! And thanks to all, even Chirp, for their kind words.
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+3 #200 boom 2013-03-06 08:24
Quoting IcySurfas:
My daughter is in the news!

ottawasun.com/.../...

p.s. Completely non hockey related. I cant wait for my little girl to get these glasses and be able to see a Sens game for the first time.


Thanks for sharing this. Sometimes we all get too wrapped up in whatever the debate-of-the-d ay is among us, so your post was a timely lesson on perspective.

As well, I was reading a story this morning about that lady who left her 3 kids alone in the apartment covered in feces...sick sick story...makes you wonder about people.
Fortunately, your post was also a lesson in faith.

Thanks again Icy....and give your daughter an extra hug tonight.
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0 #201 The Apostle 2013-03-06 09:08
Quoting SensChirp:
As of this morning I noticed Craig Anderson is listed as being on the IR. Has that been the case all along?



He was definitely down as IR when I last looked at the roster (Monday). Any reason why Cowen isn't?
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+1 #202 SensChirp 2013-03-06 09:17
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting SensChirp:
As of this morning I noticed Craig Anderson is listed as being on the IR. Has that been the case all along?



He was definitely down as IR when I last looked at the roster (Monday). Any reason why Cowen isn't?

I think Cowen is technically on the Binghamton roster right now, if I'm not mistaken.

Anyone know for sure?
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+4 #203 Alcatraz 2013-03-06 09:17
I think this sums up our season best, both negatively and positively in one tweet:

"Erik Karlsson still leads the Sens with 6 goals. Jim O'Brien leads their forwards with 5. And they're tied for 5th in the East. Remarkable."
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+1 #204 The Apostle 2013-03-06 09:19
I guess that would make sense. One thing I know is that the sens website is really bad at keeping the roster info up to date.

I'm surprised Yashin isn't there.
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+2 #205 Andrews Theory 2013-03-06 09:21
@icysurface

I've been following this company for a little over a year, pretty incredible technology! You must be so ecstatic to live in an age where this is possible.

Best wishes for your daughter!
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0 #206 Alcatraz 2013-03-06 09:27
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting SensChirp:
As of this morning I noticed Craig Anderson is listed as being on the IR. Has that been the case all along?



He was definitely down as IR when I last looked at the roster (Monday). Any reason why Cowen isn't?

I think Cowen is technically on the Binghamton roster right now, if I'm not mistaken.

Anyone know for sure?


If thats true that really sucks for Cowen, because don't you get the salary of the team your own when going on IR

So if he is classified as a Bingo player he is entitled to AHL wage, but had he been on the sens roster he would get NHL salary
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+1 #207 Sens of Peskyville 2013-03-06 09:34
Quoting Alcatraz:
I think this sums up our season best, both negatively and positively in one tweet:

"Erik Karlsson still leads the Sens with 6 goals. Jim O'Brien leads their forwards with 5. And they're tied for 5th in the East. Remarkable."


Ottawa's top point getter is Turris with 13... good to tie him for 122th in the league in scoring...

JOB's 5 goals tie him for 115th in scoring...

How is it we are still in a playoff position?

Colour me amazed :lol:
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0 #208 CohMa 2013-03-06 09:36
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting SensChirp:
As of this morning I noticed Craig Anderson is listed as being on the IR. Has that been the case all along?



He was definitely down as IR when I last looked at the roster (Monday). Any reason why Cowen isn't?

I think Cowen is technically on the Binghamton roster right now, if I'm not mistaken.

Anyone know for sure?


Because he was injured and put on IR during the lockout and playing for Bingo, he is being paid his AHL salary and is on Bingo's IR. He is listed on the current roster on the Bingo site.
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-1 #209 Tookie 2013-03-06 09:42
To early for a GAMEDAY post chant?!?!
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+1 #210 Tookie 2013-03-06 09:43
Quoting DajaSens:
Quoting Alcatraz:
I think this sums up our season best, both negatively and positively in one tweet:

"Erik Karlsson still leads the Sens with 6 goals. Jim O'Brien leads their forwards with 5. And they're tied for 5th in the East. Remarkable."


Ottawa's top point getter is Turris with 13... good to tie him for 122th in the league in scoring...

JOB's 5 goals tie him for 115th in scoring...

How is it we are still in a playoff position?

Colour me amazed :lol:


Goaltending and good to great DEF system, I mean when you play all out DEF its hard for the other etam to score no matter who you have out there. And while the other team is busting their balls trying to score we pop in 2 uglies and win 2-1 LOL!!
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+3 #211 SensChirp 2013-03-06 09:50
Quoting Tookie:
To early for a GAMEDAY post chant?!?!

Just typed it up! Waiting for the line up notes and we'll be good to go.
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0 #212 Hax 2013-03-06 10:05
Quoting CohMa:
Because he was injured and put on IR during the lockout and playing for Bingo, he is being paid his AHL salary and is on Bingo's IR. He is listed on the current roster on the Bingo site.


Bingo salary? Ouch. I wonder if Murray will try to rectify that somehow at some point. Like last year when they called Lehner up for a bit to earn some NHL dollars.
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+1 #213 Back checker 2013-03-06 10:06
Would really like to see

Benoit methot
wire gonch
philips gryba

would create a lot more offence
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+12 #214 The Silfver Surfer 2013-03-06 10:06
Just seen this post by SensNation on Facebook thought it was quite amusing haha
"Mark Stone will make his NHL regular season debut tonight. Despite that, Stone has more NHL playoff experience than the Leafs organization in the past 8 seasons combined. More points too."

SUCK IT PHANEUF

GO SENS GO!
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0 #215 Sens of Peskyville 2013-03-06 10:07
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting DajaSens:
Quoting Alcatraz:
I think this sums up our season best, both negatively and positively in one tweet:

"Erik Karlsson still leads the Sens with 6 goals. Jim O'Brien leads their forwards with 5. And they're tied for 5th in the East. Remarkable."


Ottawa's top point getter is Turris with 13... good to tie him for 122th in the league in scoring...

JOB's 5 goals tie him for 115th in scoring...

How is it we are still in a playoff position?

Colour me amazed :lol:


Goaltending and good to great DEF system, I mean when you play all out DEF its hard for the other etam to score no matter who you have out there. And while the other team is busting their balls trying to score we pop in 2 uglies and win 2-1 LOL!!


Thanks for answering my rhetorical question ;-)
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+2 #216 Cooke-d 2013-03-06 11:20
Quoting Tookie:
...And while the other team is busting their balls trying to score we pop in 2 uglies and win 2-1 LOL!!


I also get my balls busted when trying to pop it into a couple of uglies... glad to hear I'm not the only one.
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0 #217 Tookie 2013-03-06 11:21
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Tookie:
To early for a GAMEDAY post chant?!?!

Just typed it up! Waiting for the line up notes and we'll be good to go.


I'm gonna go with:

Michalek Turris Silf
Stone Regin Alfie
Greening Smith Neil
Dzuiz Zibanejad Condra

Gonchar Methot
Phillips Wiercioch
Benoit Gryba

Bishop
Lehner
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0 #218 Alcatraz 2013-03-06 11:30
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Tookie:
To early for a GAMEDAY post chant?!?!

Just typed it up! Waiting for the line up notes and we'll be good to go.


I'm gonna go with:

Michalek Turris Silf
Stone Regin Alfie
Greening Smith Neil
Dzuiz Zibanejad Condra

Gonchar Methot
Phillips Wiercioch
Benoit Gryba

Bishop
Lehner



MIchalek-Turris-Alfie
Stone-Regin-Silf
Greening-Smith-Neil
JOB-Zibanejad-Condra
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0 #219 Tookie 2013-03-06 11:40
Quoting Alcatraz:


MIchalek-Turris-Alfie
Stone-Regin-Silf
Greening-Smith-Neil
JOB-Zibanejad-Condra


Yeah I want JOB back in there for sure but like some have said he might be injured.
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0 #220 Sens of Peskyville 2013-03-06 11:50
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Alcatraz:


MIchalek-Turris-Alfie
Stone-Regin-Silf
Greening-Smith-Neil
JOB-Zibanejad-Condra


Yeah I want JOB back in there for sure but like some have said he might be injured.


Agreed JOB over Dizzy... let him sit one out.
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0 #221 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-03-06 12:00
Game Day post on it's way there Chirp
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