Patrice Bergeron was credited with the overtime winner as a shot trickled through the legs and just over the goal line behind Robin Lehner. While Lehner would likely want another try at the shot that ended this one, the Sens don't come away with a point if not for the play of Lehner.
He stopped 40 of 41 shots through regulation and helped them steal a point in a tough building to play in. Lehner was named the game's first star.
All in all, this was an effort the Senators can be proud of.
After a sluggish opening twenty minutes where neither team could get much going, both teams seemed to find their legs to start the second period.
Ottawa had a couple chances early in the middle frame that seemed to coincide with some line juggling by Paul MacLean. The Bruins would strike first though as Nathan Horton fanned on a shot that found a way past Lehner, who had overcommitted to the original shot by Horton. The replay seemed to show that Alfredsson actually knocked the stick of Lehner out of the way. Either way, a weird goal.
The Sens would draw even though as Jim O'Brien buried his 5th of the season in a wild goal-mouth scramble. The play was set up by an amazing stretch pass by Patrick Wiercioch to spring Daugavins on the breakaway.
Through the third period and the overtime session, both Lehner and Rask made a couple of big stops to keep the game deadlocked through 60 minutes.
The Senators are on the ice for practice today at 12:00 PM in Philly continue the road trip on Saturday afternoon against Claude Giroux and the Philadelphia Flyers.
- By the end of the night, Peter Regin had found his way onto the top line with Alfredsson and Silfverberg and looked decent in that role. Turris was playing on a line with Condra and Greening. Should be interesting to see what MacLean does with the lines on Saturday in Philly.
- Scrappy road effort from the Sens but one area where they absolutely have to be better is in the faceoff circle. The Bruins dominated that part of the game all night, winning 65% of the draws. A long bright spot in the circle was Jim O'Brien who went 7 for 8.
- Craig Anderson, who has skated the past few days, is expected to address the media for the first time in Philadelphia this afternoon. Certainly doesn't sound like Anderson will be out for much longer.
Other than that, everything should be back to normal.
Thanks for your patience.
Robin Lehner making 44 saves. Wow.
I love this team. If they keep up the effort like they've been showing, and as our players get healthy, we'll be well on our way to where we need to be.
GO SENS GO
I can only imagine if Anderson basically says he is good to go by next week how off the hook Murrays phone is going to be this weekend.
In fact, its EK65 who is still leading the team with 6. But still, of the players still playing who would have guessed it would be JOB leading the way with 5 goals in only 14 games. And 0 assists.
Kind of sloppy game, though... but nice to get another point.
And finally the thing that annoyed me to no end last night was how much Sportsnet actually talked about Alfie being traded to the Bruins. It ain't happening, plus Alfie will be back next year for sure and I could see him playing another one after that.
Ok, I'm done...
I feel bad for Turris. His chance in the OT would have been the perfect timing for him. Great play by Zibby to create this scoring opportunity.
Go SENS Go
Agreed, but its much better than watching the so called "national" broadcasts on CBC or TSN... let alone watching the non-Ottawa feed on center ice.
Yeah, choosing between the two is like being between a rock and a (blow)hard place...
On a positive note, our goaltending is incredible. It doesn't matter who is in net for us right now, you know the back end is going to be solid. And our bottom 2 lines continue to play consistently good hockey. These lines are keeping us in the hunt right now. And Gryba...he needs to stay in this lineup. I love that he wasn't letting Lucic push him around or intimdiate him. He's a very smart kid.
No matter what we have against us right now through all these injuries, this has been some of the most exciting Sens hockey to watch in a very long time.
I'm happy to tolerate a few tangents from the pair because they are Sens fans that don't typically go over board with homer-isms and are head and shoulders more interesting and accurate than the twits from TSN or the bores from CBC
Daugivins got himself into perfect position to receive an amazing pass from Wiercoch that led to a breakaway and a goal crease scramble where O'Brien managed to put it in.
Not to mention the penalty killing he does and the blocked shots.
He's obviously not a star play or anything but he works hard, you can't have all stars on your team you need guys that are willing to grind it out.
We'll take that point thank you very much...
we really shouldnt be suprised on the face off issue. Boston has more centers than any team i can think of and the dominate everybody in the faceoff dot.
kelly and peverley are both above 60%
Silfverberg didnt have his best game.
circling back to the scouts last night....is it possible Murray is actually contemplating moving Lehner? you dont scout a game to watch a guy play back up... not sure who else they'd be watching...
Solid on the pk and is a great bottem 6 grinder. Great role player
Solid on the pk and is a great bottem 6 grinder. Great role player
I recall "someone who knows it all" calling the sens a playoff bubble team (ranked 8th or more likely 9th) BEFORE losing our top forward, defense, and goaltender...th en many calling for a tank. yeah...
A crippled Sens team walks into boston with their 3rd goaltender...an d nearly walks away with 2 points. No joke here...these guys have amazing heart...oh wait...heart doesn't get you anywhere I was told...
GO SENS GO!!!
Care to defend that statement?
I love it when people come on here and make massively opinionated statements without and backing for them. At least if ZipZapLoser bitches about MM9, he tries to give some reasoning about the pathetic value of empty net goals or something.
Some have concerns with our top line. But if you really look at it, we don't have a true 1st line right now due to injuries. What we have are 4 lines who are out doing everything they can, each and every night. I'm actually enjoying it, cause it's not often Neil and company are being asked to play 15+ minutes a game!!
Very impressed yet again with Wiercioch. Those passes are crazy, he's nailed at least 1 per game this season and you can tell the Bingo boys who have played with him know he's capable of it, cause he's been hitting them so easily.
It'll be strange watching a noon game tomorrow, but oh well. Go Sens Go!!
He must be holding his stick with cement hands, and thus missing finding the back
of the net, since Jan, when he scored his 4 goals??
Would love to see the following trios:
Silfverberg - Zibanejad - Alfredsson
Greening - Turris - Condra
If Zibanejad does not perform, slot in Regin, like MacLean did in Boston game.
Top lines need to start scoring in Flyers' game this Saturday, or we could lose 2 in a row !
GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But...
I know you're not supposed to be critical on here but Turris has been awful and I don't think it can continue to go unmentioned. Really soft and making all sorts of nonchalant passes and poor decisions. It's too bad he seems to be so dependant on other players like Spezza drawing tougher openents while he gets the easier assignments to be successful.
I hope he can snap out of it against weaker opponents and regain his confidence because we really need him scoring.
Phillips and Benoit were outmatch most of the game. both looked tired last night.
I want to still love him, but its tough.
That sounds about right, if you watched the game you could tell the Bruins were hitting everything that moved, remember now a reistered hit doesnt have to be bone crunching. The BIG difference was when the D's went back to get the puck, Boston would finish every check, Sens just skated right by.
Except Gryba, who took care of Lucic, and others !!
That being said, could someone explain to me the OT goal?
It looked to me for 3 secs the puck was sitting and touching the red line (not fully over) and then Lehner went to grab it and it rolled further in.
So was it a goal because it was always across the line, or was it a goal because the ref took his sweet ass time to blow the whistle and by the time he did, the puck had rolled across?
Either way - great effort - need to finish some of those scoring chances somehow...
GO SENS GO!
Why are you not supposed to be critical?? Its a blog you can say what you wish. And your right about Turris, to his defense, he isnt a #1C and is struggling with the attention he is recieving from opponents.
Yep Gryba and Methot are beasts for us! Cant imagine those 2 going anywhere anytime soon!!!
It was clearly over the line, do you have HD? If not you should.
Also why would the ref blow his whistle if the puck is still free?? Lehner did push it in more when he tried to cover it but he never had control of the puck, it was just sitting there over the line waiting to get poked in more.
Why would the ref whistle that dead? If he still saw the puck and it wasn't covered he isn't going to bail us out, or anyone for that matter.
Ohh and every game I love Methot, and Gryba more....and what the hell was that hipcheck from Gonchar
Enough said.
Thats was duuuuurty!!!!
Gonchar's been a good soldier for us, he went through a tough patch here with fans, I admit I was one of em who would ship him out for a bag of chipped pucks...
He's done a good job this year but I dont see him back unless he takes a wicked paycut, like 2 or 2.5Mil.
yea the bruins had more shots in the first but i felt the sens were pretty even with the bruins between the 2nd and OT.
the sens defense still played pretty good, especially given their size disadvantage. i felt Julien tried alot late in the game to put the Bruins heavies in Lucic and Horton out against Gonchar+PW46 and Phillips+Benoit , but they held up and Maclean was successfull in using Methot+Gryba against that line more often. thats a good sign i think - shows that sens can play the match game even when disgustingly injured.
i thought the biggest disappointment was again the sens PP. boston has a really good PK, but i thought the sens hit the axe on their own feet more times than not. Neil on the PP to start OT was just a bad decision and should have been greening instead.
i think Turris needs to have atleast one big body next to him.
He isn't a #1C yet. And he may never be. He is only 23 years, so we could cut the kid some slack. All things considered, I think he's playing well within the team. He's no Spezza, for sure, but Spezza at 23 was a nightmare defensively. For every goal he created he did 5 insane drop passes to the other team.
espn.go.com/nhl/team/roster/_/name/ott/ottawa-senators
A couple of things jump out...
- We have 9 Centers on the team
- Andre Benoit is apparently a Left Winger
- We have only 5 players over 30 on the roster (Anderson 31, Neil 33, Phillips 34, Gonchar 38 and Alfie 40)
guy still had 4 shots on net. he is going in the dirty areas - one example was the upending he did on Chara which drew quite the ire from bruins players.
I feel the Turris+Silf experiment is over now and someone else should be put there instead. don't think they have a lot of chemistry.
maybe they should try silf+zib+condra , but zib+greening has been pretty bomb.
it should be easier if Michalek comes back soon because then you put together mm9+turris+alfie.
silf+regin+alfie looked good, but i dont think its much of a difference because against bigger defense, they will get gobbled up.
What do people think of Kadri now, we could sure use his scoring touch on the first line.
He's got 21pts in 22 games so far. Thats 9 more that our best player (Turris). He's got 8 goals thats 3 more than our best scorer (JOB) lol.
He's got 4PP goals and all that played with an avg of 15 min a night. (He's out producing Zib, Silf & Smith combined...)
Now I love Cowen but people on here laughing at how we dodged a bullet with Kadri when drafting Cowen, could it be the other way around??
Cowen hasnt even played this year and were doing fine defensively with the addition of Gryba & Methot. What we could use more of now is scoring and thats what Kadri is doing for the damn Leafs.
That's not really a bold statement and shouldn't be a shock. Turris is still very young, Regin is still finding his rhythm and Zibanejad is crazy young.
I think playing against those units thought will help all three. Once Spezza is back and Turris (for example) is playing against lesser defenders he's going to feel like someone took lead out of his stick.
And that's not even touching on Smith or JOB who aren't ever going to be expected to face shutdown lines/pairings.
Really happy with the fight these guys are all showing and we'll see the payoff next year for sure.
Well with Cowen out all year of course I'd take Kadri. But while Kadri is slick I think Cowen is way more valuable to us in the long term.
You will get people going, but it's a fair point.
I would still prefer Cowen because I feel he will develop into a player who will play a ton of minutes, but there's no denying we could use someone like Kadri...
This is yet another example of how all of us are far too quick to judge a player - some just take more time to develop.
And I think you're mistaken here. What people are laughing at is the FACT that if Burke wanted Kadri all along (clearly he did) he should have at least let Murray speak - he might have gotten Murray to offer something to move up had he not blurted out his man-love for Kadri.
Who knows? If Burke had hinted that he might want Cowen (if he wasn't so self-centered he might have guessed Ottawa was looking to draft D) Murray might have offered a 3rd pick to move up.
Bottom line is Burke's ego got him again. Regardless of who the better play is today or in the long run.
Refresh your memory:
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/6/29/929004/brian-burke-at-the-2009-nhl-draft
one thing distinctly different in Kadri compared to other leafs players - looks much more committed and hard working on the ice.
i think the reason burke got fired was because he was going to ship Kadri+ for luongo for sure
I dont know man, the way we are playing on defense without Cowen, I think we wouldnt miss a beat with the guys we have now. Cowen already has had 2 significant injuries.
Clearly we are lacking on scoring upfront, thats even WITH Karlsson and Spezza in the lineup.
Kadri alongside Spezza or as our 2C would have been real nice.
This is all speculation of course as we cant reverse time but I think this was one where Burke won over Murray in their little battle of the minds on draft day.
Cowen is much more useful to the sens than Kadri would have been.
Cowen will be the sens top-D cog along with Karlsson for years to come.
Its easy to look at Kadri right now and say what if. but if you look at the big picture, if spezza didnt have surgery and was playing right now, none of us ask the question even.
Given the relevant perceived strength of our forward and defensive prospects I'm happy we have Cowen but I wouldn't be upset to have Kadri instead.
But if we had Kadri would we still have traded for Turris, would we have gone for 3 forwards in the first round in 2011.
What I do find interesting is you throwing Gryba in there when if anybody else dares praise a player after 7 games you're all over them telling them how it's too quick to judge etc etc.
Sorry Tookie but this point is 100% wrong. The battle of the minds wasn't over who got which player. Burke was clearly picking Kadri. The battle that Burke lost was not keeping his cards close to the vest and prying a pick out of Murray to "let" Murray draft Cowen.
Burke can't see past his own bulbous nose far enough to realize his is not the only opinion out there.
I see your point about "now" with Kadri helping more etc, but I don't think this team can keep up this level of defense for 82 games plus playoffs without some help from Cowen.
I fully agree with Hax on Cowen vs Kadri
who was sent back down by Burke so many times it was insane.
Cowen- Karlsson next year and for many years will be a duo to enjoy. A shutdown Cowen and an all over the ice Karlsson !
As Tookie pointed out, right now(and we likely would have handled him WAY better) Kadri would help us an unbelievable amount.
We will be REALLY good next year with Karlsson/Methot , Wiercoch/Cowen, Gryba/Phillips.
MM9 - Spezza - Silfer
Stone (Noesen)- Turris - Alfie(?)or Zibby
Neil - Smith - Greening
Hoffman - Condra - DD
I think (assuming we don't add guys via trade or UFA) if our top 6 looks something like this in 2-3 years we'll be in great shape:
Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Ceci
Gryba-Wiercioch
Borowiecki
sens didnt have an absolute need for Kadri as much as they had for a guy to put next to Karlsson at that time. At that time, the sens D depth chart was Karlsson, PW46 and Gryba. PW46 had a big question mark over him and Gryba was still quite a ways to go. At that time Cowen was a slamdunk for the sens because he almost made the team out of camp. as far as centremen went, sens already had their 1C guy in Spezza. so yea Kadri would have been a nice-add but sens didnt have a blaring need for him as much as they did for Cowen on D.
Even with Spezza we still needed more scoring, I think what this short season has showed is we are fine on DEF, with the acquisition of Methot and the emergence of Gryba, Wiercioch, Benoit.
I agree Cowen is going to be a good player but he's already banged up, We havent missed a beat defensively this year without him. Its one of those things when you get hurt for the year, some other guys step up and take your place. Nobody can replace Karlsson for what he brings is elite talent but Cowen IMO is similar to Gryba, Wiercioch & Methot and those guys are doing great now.
I (for one) am not even trying to say which player is better - they're on par IMO and we won't know for a few years which is truly better if we ever do.
All I'm saying is:
1. Cowen is better for our team IMO. Not necessarily by a long shot though.
2. Burke's ego cost him a chance to pry something out of Murray, still getting Kadri for himself.
Well I dont just praise any player cuz he's a Sens player. Alot of people are praising Silf and Zib and its undeserved, they havent really done anything to impress (except for individual shootouts in Silf's case)
Gryba is playing great, his job isnt to score, unlike the others. He keeps the points off the boards and doing a great job.
Brownie the Clownie is probably the worst play-by-play guy in all of Pro Hockey.
He'd rather talk about restaurants in New Jersey or Alex Ovechkin's dog than describe the game WHILE IT'S BEING PLAYED.
He's proof positive that you can take the windbag out of talk radio but can never take the talk radio out of the windbag.
I would still rather have Cowen though. Our d has been great considering the lack of experience. Its fun to watch these guys find their game and still put up points in the standings. But for crying out loud we allow 40+ shots a game! Our goaltending is helping our d look as good as they have. Its not hard to argue our GA is due to goaltending vs. defense. it is not sustainable to allow 40+ shots per game.
I think Cowen also has some offensive/puck moving ability that hasn't fully developed yet. He was supposed to find his offensive game this year and started off great in the 3 games he played in the AHL. I think long term Cowen is going to be a dominant, physical 2 way defenseman.
I get how some people don't like him and most of the negative comments are true enough (tangential comments etc).
I personally think he's great. Had to listen to most of the 2006-2007 season on internet radio and got really used to Dean and Gord. They're as familiar to me now as Duke and Dave back in the Expo heyday. So I find Dean hilarious and when he's paired with Gord (rare these days) they're something else.
Potvin can be HORRIBLE at times but some of his stories and insights are good.
So while I don't expect everyone to love them, I usually like the job they do.
Bumped into Dean a few times in public as well and he's ALWAYS willing to shoot the shit with hockey fans - which much get tiresome sometimes for those media guys. Classy guy.
Fair enough Hax, I too am not saying Kadri better than Cowen, I just think IMO that we would need Kadri more than Cowen right now and for the future.
As for the comment on stone and Noesen sniping on our first line, thats unpredictable, right now they are unproven rookies and who knows what you will get out of them. I really like Noesen but its a crap shoot really.
As for Kadri, he's rdy now and playing great.
When Cowen returns, he wont be paired with Karlsson, Methot will and like Hax said he will probably be paired with Ceci when the time comes. But as for his role now, we have 3 guys who can do the same thing he does.
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Haha - this is funny cause I was thinking the exact same thing. I was watching that feed too for awhile. How Jack Edwards gets WEER-SHOT out of Weircioch I will never know.
But I will say, they had nothing but praise for the Senators. you can really tell the respect they had for them as an opponent not to be taken lightly despite the injuries.
It's unbelivable how one player (King K) can transform a ordinary team that can hardly get the puck out of our zone when he's not playing to an offensive machine when he's there.
Just imagine if instead of the trio extraordinaire of goaltenders we have now, we would still have Martin Gerber as our starter. Do you think we would be in the same situation?
How is this a more enjoyable or relevant post?
I'd like to see examples of any of these from today. Or in general. It's a freaking blog man - people comment and discuss hockey.
Why you mad bro?
Agreed man. Turris is his own player. That is, a 2C. Having top line minutes the past few weeks have shown just that he is much better on the second line than first. Honestly, he's been invisible up on the first line.
However, I do think it's a chance for him to develop and improve his game when someone higher up (Spezza) is out... It's really up to him to take the puck and run with it.
Agree to a point. Too many shots for sure and amazing tending as well. But would argue that many of the shots have been from the outside due to good defensive play. Not saying our D have been amazing, but they have done an admiral job of clearing the net, clearing out the minimal rebounds allowed and preventing wide open shots.
Too many odd man rushes and still some open guys, but not like all 44 shots last night were dangerous.
Tookie's right you can't count your chickens before they hatch but with so many "eggs" some are bound to hatch. Our depth up front is way better than on the blueline.
Now if we could swap Kadri for one of our forward prospects that are still unknown that would be different.
He was not in the top 10 of North American skaters of his draft class. I recall the draft conversation to a degree between B&M, but I remember thinking, why Kadri?
For anyone who hasn't looked lately, take a peek at that draft class, pretty impressive really with 7 Canadians in the top 10.
Sure we drafted Cowen, but what often is forgotten is we also landed Lehner in that draft. He was the top European goalie available, yet the NYI's picked Mikko Koskinen ahead of him with the 31st overall. That allowed Ottawa to sneak in and snag Lehner 46th, with the pick we received from Columbus. :)
The stress the same as us(sure its not likely about paying the bills) but still stress none the less.
This comment is exactly what I was trying to muster up and couldn't word it right. Damn, nice job spezzerman. So I'll just say ditto! ;)
Next year I would like to see:
Karlsson/Methot
Cowen/JBo
Weir/Phillps
Gryba
With the way Gryba is playing you have him as the 7th d-man? I'm hoping that it will be:
Karlsson-Cowen
Methot-Gryba
Philips-Weircioch
Borocop
You could flip Methot and Cowen.
Go Sens Go!!
They specifically said he "leads all forwards" every time they mentioned that, to my recollection at least.
The same can be said for the SENS players. Except none of them have had the success of Kadri. JOB is the only one IMO playing better than he should.
Hockey's future has him at 6-4, 221 lbs and a D. It say's Sdao is in his senior season with Princeton in 2012-13, but I've heard nothing about him at all.
Last season he assumed a leadership role for Princeton University as a junior on a young Tigers team that had just four seniors. Skating in 30 of 32 games, he had career-highs in goals (10) and assists (10) while leading the Tigers in penalty minutes (87 – also a career-high) for the third straight season. He was named to the ECAC Second All-Star team.
Does anyone know what happens here, will he be eligible to assume a role in Bingo after this year?
Yep - it's time to call Grady up from Binghamton and to send Brown back to the TURD 1200 Morning Show
So true about Turris being a 2C. He may develope into a 1C but isn't there yet.
As for the comment about Brown and Potvin, I love listening to them chatter. They don't cover the game, but I crack up every time I hear Deaner say 'He missed low'... really, a player missed low, like under the ice?
to get kadri bm would of had to offer up something in addition to the 9th pick to get the 7th pick. not worth it in my mind
not to mention at the time of the draft there were far fewer question marks surrounding cowen than kadri.
if you really want to talk about a draft pick that the sens messed up on go back to the 1993 draft. not this ridiculous cowen over kadri debate that is going on
a team can never have enough solid defensemen. cowen will slot right back into the top 4 when he returns. getting guys like gryba playing time makes him more appealing to teams when BM starts making packages for scoring wingers
Yeah my point exactly, Cowen being injured ahs given opprtunity to other players to do well and they did.
Methot Karlsson
Wiercioch Gryba
Phillips Boro
Benoit
With Ceci, Claesson, Wikstrand, Fransoo, Sdao still in the wings.
And lets say in 2-3 years, barring any D draft picks.
Methot Karlsson
Ceci Gryba
Wiercioch Benoit
Boro
I read this blog every day and typically read all the comments. I rarely post since I'd rather just read.
I can totally see why people would get mad at ZipZapRap or some other negative posters that hate on players or the team in general. And some people go too far with personal comments.
While Tookie is often negative to a point (or "realistic" if you like) he's rarely insulting or outright hating on Sens players.
And Hax might post a ton but he's a total homer and even will stand up to the ZipZapRaps of the world and even tries to keep Tookie in line - so I don't get the hate there either.
And I simply can't imagine someone refusing to post because they fear Hax or Tookie disagreeing with them?!?!?
Anyway, I for one enjoy Chirp's blogs and reading ALL the comments. It's a free site after all.
I remember hearing that Sdao would probably be going to Bingo after his season is over. When he was drafted Pierre Dorion said at the time that Sdao may be a diamond in the rough. Never seen him play but his size is similar to Cowen and Gryba. The Princeton website has him at 6-4, 230lbs.
Are people who post 30 or 40 times a day saying anything worthwhile?
I think not.
I personally have no interest in reading anything posted by Hax or Tookie.
Fighting through their blather to find the people who give us 3 or 4 excellent posts a week (and there are several of you) has become to tiresome to bother with.
Hax and Tookie need their own blogs !
So yeah great that we have Sdao and others that we rarely talk about. I expect they'll try to get as much help to Bingo as they can when NCAA players are able to go there. Ceci too maybe when his season is over?
Not to poke the bear but I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm certainly not trying to take over the comment section but if a topic turns into a back-and-forth with other posters the numbers can pile up I guess. I'd get my own blog but then it would just be me and Zach (my biggest fan) so not sure it would be the same.
Kadri is on Kessel's line with JVR and if he's not he's 2C most of the time.
I thought Lehner played great! 44 saves is damn good against Boston shooters. I thought Gryba and Methot were warriors, even Gonchar stepped up his game last night. Weircoich didnt get an assist on the Ottawa goal, but he started the whole thing with that BEAUTY pass to Daugs to start the whole thing.
All in all, this was (for me) the least dissapointing Sens loss to watch all year. A roster with 13 players that were in Bingo at some point this year shouldn't even be in the same ball park as the FULL roster of Boston Bruins, but they were. Was awesome to watch.
Hoping that high energy and momemtum carries over to Philly and Isles on the weekend. Should give both those team plently to handle.
Cheers!
What I don't like about the majority of commentators is that they tell you what just happened - which I already know about because, you know I'm watching the game on TV.
LOL you want to read 3 or 4 posts a week?!?! my God man are you 85? Its a blog, theres gonna be more than 3-4 posts...
Imagine an internet blog with 4-5 replies...wow that would be amazing....ly BORING!
Fantastic point Tooks.
You have to think the Bruins are favourites for the East crown, they play playoff hockey 24-7...
No doubt Tooks.
I guess Chirpy should get a condensed blog post thing going for the faint of heart. Me, I log my blogs like I like my steak, with pepper!
We have a great mix of posters here. Controversial discussions, Twitter updates, analysis, score predictors, lurkers, armchair GM trade making enthusiasts, eternal optimists, realists and shitheads. And everyone has their own posting frequencies and such.
Anyone who wants to whine about people "posting too much" or whatever on a blog should just shove off if they don't like it. Complainers will always find some reason to whine!
- A Hax + Tookie fan
Nice point Tookie.
I've always thought if we added a Lebanese or Italian player or two, maybe even Greek, our swagger quotient would go sky-high. Not in the cards with Murray though...
Tried it. Didn't work.
Kid looked solid and the future is definitely bright.
Murray is in such a position of strength now. He can trade a goalie and get amazing return. Either Bishop for more than we traded to get him (at least) or potentially get ballsy and trade Anderson or Lehner for a bigger return.
Plus he's got a ton of young talent. A mix of proven bottom six guys and prospects with high ceilings. He can seek out a deal to bring back some key pieces for next year when this team is legitimately primed for a playoff run.
Go Sens Go
We could definitely use Kadri's "nifty mittens" right now...with Turris "I WILL SCORE 30...JUST NOT NOW" doing squat out there. Turris for Kadri please B-Murr...
Coming from the guy who thought the Laffs stole Kessel from the bruins!
6'5" D that are agile and can skate are more rare... Chara anyone?
I can only imagine how a conversation with you goes...
Friend: Hey Eddie
Eddie: Hey
Friend: Whats up
Eddie: nothing
Friend: Wanna go get something to eat
Eddie: ok
Friend: what do you like?
Eddie: whatever
Friend: whats wrong Ed?
Eddie: ARRHHH you talk to much...
It's hardly necessary either. Even on HB where they have 30 teams worth of news and discussions to cover, outside of the main feature posts most of the others and doldrums, tumbleweeds etc.
1. Is this simply a reflection of his natural development and more patience is needed?
2. or did the Murrays see something that indicated he would not be able to make it in the NHL?
3. or did the trade kill his confidence?
I like our chances of competing when Spezza and Michalek are back and the playoffs start. The rest of the boys are already used to grinding every shift and most of the team is made up of guys that find another level in the playoffs (the vets).
Even if we don't have a lot of success, a team that works this hard and has so many young guys with potential is fun to watch and easy to cheer for.
They serve no purpose...but are everywhere.
At times I get tired of reading certain repeat discussions.... so guess what
I SKIP THEM!
Yeah just saw that too. After some conditioning with Bingo would love to see him get a call up for a couple games. Whether he is ready or not for prime time who knows, but I really believe he will be a core piece of this squad in two years.
For the record, I had just posted the piss your pants funniest witticism ever documented just before the site went down. Now you'll never get to see it.
Is this site like the first one internet noobs come to so they don't know what the internet is really like?
Try reading through TSN.ca comments or other blogs and you'll soon realize this site is 1000000 times better - even when Hax and Tookie go berserk.
Given the circumstances that were presented, in order for us to have drafted Kadri, we'd have to swap with Toronto — I think Murray made the better call by not trading up and trading away more picks to Toronto.
Looking forward to seeing how his skating has come along, when he drew in in the playoffs I honestly expected him to look out of place, but he wasn't for the most part....I mean he was by no means Spezza level skating or even right in the play everytime but for a rookie being thrown into the NHL playoffs I was impressed.
I saw it.
It wasn't great.
HAHAHAHHA
this however was
Hey Miguel, nice to see ya and I see your still trying to put words in other peoples mouths...
I never said the Laffs stole Kessel from Boston, I said it wasnt as bad of a trade as people make it out to be, just cuz Burke totally screwed up after acquiring Kessel doesnt make it a bad trade.
I think it was a good trade for both sides, only problem is Boston is a great Org with commitment to winning as for the Leafs well they just want to make money.
Long live Senschirp!
Does the Sun ever even leave any posts up?
LOL. See, we just made everyone smile!
You could always post it again or are you scurred!!
There were plenty of rumours prior to the trade that the sens weren't exactly happy with the way Rundblad was progressing. A more specific criticism seemed to be that he wasn't taking coaching direction very well.
That being said I was still surprised when the Sens shipped him off but am happy that they did when you consider what we got back.
It's all kinda stream of conscience.... It's long gone by now. Those grey cells get fused with years of beers.
The commentators said JoB lead all forwards with 5 goals, they were specific in that regard.
Okay, he is good defensively, but to be honest, we were VERY lucky to score that goal the way we did after he MESSSED it up. He didn't even get robbed or try to pick a corner.... he looked like a fool on the breakaway. 98% of the time that play gets cleared after the breakway shot. He is a responsible hockey player, sure. But he cant score to save his own life. Who doesn't see that is pretty delusional.
Chara... I mean Cowen will be a dominate defenseman, Kadri will get points ala Prospal
Chara vs Prospal
IMO... dont get all freaked out about it
The Kessel trade is a bad trade. End of story... That trade was made with Burke's ego not his head
Not saying anything about Daug, but anyone else notice Rask flipping out after the goal, he was real mad at Krejci or some number close to 46 maybe 48? or 47 Perverley not sure.
But that guy kicked the puck back towards the crease in hopes that Rask would put his glove on it. We've all done it before, you kinda kick it back towards your goelie so he can gobble it up, this time it went bad!! The Sens shouldnt have scored on that play, just goes to show, you miss a golden chance on a breakaway on the score right after on a mistake by the opp.
LMAO come on Miguel, are you seriously comparing Cowen to Chara...Theres only 1 Chara bro, Cowen IMO is more like a Seabrook, Brewer type player.
on the positive
Sens have 3 starting, dare I say top level goaltending,
Gyrba, Wier Condra, Regin, Zibby, Silfbest, possibly the best bottom 6 in the NHL.
of concern
Turris, cannot play top line C, of more concern is how small he looks and is playing, almost like he is injured, and not the same player as the beginning of the year.
Regin looked better yesterday with Silf and Aflie
Also Gonchar on the PP is terrible.
we have to pick up our PP, and I suggest Wiercioch and Beniot to start for now.
however you cannot but help to feel inspired by these guys.
Not one of them want to, or deserve to go back downt to the AHL
Keep it up boys
HUH ?
Isn't this what you do here everyday ?
So much talking - so little content.
Based on comments made by Turris, I guess Phoenix isn't a place where the coaching staff cares much about what players think.
yup and in two years you will say you knew he would be as good as Chara.
again its my opinion,
Not sure where you get that from... Kessel & JVR are centered by Bozak and Grabovski is the 2C.
Toronto's line up is:
Forwards:
van Riemsdyk - Bozak - Kessel
Komarov - Grabovski - Kulemin
MacArthur - Kadri - Orr
McLaren-McClement-Brown
With Kadri on the 3rd line.
Read up friend, I'm pretty sure you missed the whole Kadri discussion or the Turris discussion. Or would you rather we talk soccer?
with all due respect... who cares :)
Not so with Cowen.
Dont you think your way over valueing our players? Cowen = Chara...really? Dont you think Seabrooke or Brewer to be more fair?
Chara is an elite D, Norris winning, Stanley Cup Champion, slap shot break your face MONSTER..
I dont know about you but I havent seen that from Cowen. Chara is a special breed. Cowen will be good but not Chara good. Seriously?
No -I'd rather you start your own blog.
I don't think so; Bozak centers those two kessel and JVR. Grabovski is 2C. Kadri has played with Orr, McCarther, Kulemin etc.
Fair point...
Beautiful observation... completeley agree!
Chara on the island was a fish out of water, first couple of years here struggled brutally with his skating... slow and not agile... however Cowen already at the same age is better than what Chara was at the age of 21
Anyhow, not sure why everyone has a hate on for the Daug or for that matter any one of the 10 forwards on this team that are really third and fourth liners. The only legitimate top six forwards at the moment are Alfie and Turris. Silfverberg will be along with Z-bad. The positives in all this is that when Spezza and Michalek come back, it will be imperative for Murray to package one of the goalies plus a few of the third and fourth liners and find a top 6 and preferably a top 3 forward.
Stone, Puempel, Noesen, Prince are a couple of years away and in reality we don't know how they will play. Murray is not afraid of making a big move and something tells me that his next one will be huge.
Were they the same people that are complaining now that people post too much?
@Dejasens... I was kidding... it was a good point
Well I've looked at several depth charts for the LEafs and most of them have Kadri up top with Grabs 2C, Bozak is 3C.
To be honest I dont think Bozak is 1C, where did you get your info?
I might be wrong I dont know much about Leafs. But I could swear last night Kadri was playing with Kessel JVR, maybe a hunch by the coach...
Anyways if he's capable of doing that on the 3rd line, so should ours right?
Speaking of Chara - I find it hilarious how the media is loving his "pirouette" the other night. Am I the only one that realizes he just sort of followed the puck (nicely) but wasn't really trying to act like Crosby? I mean, it was a nice recovery from a potential flub, but hardly a new skill emerging.
Anyway, I think if Cowen ends up comparable to Weber that we're laughing all the way to the playoffs.
Last night KAdri played with McCarther and Komorov.
Bozak has been centering Kessel for two, almost 3 years
And, I think you're missing the point of the argument.
Ok I'll take your word for it, so he's playing 3C vs top line or other guys of his caliber. Shouldnt our 3C's be able to do the same, Zib, Smith, Regin...
Dont post too much or your will be attacked by the PCP, Post Count Police...
I agree 100%, Anderson is going to bring back MUCH more than Bishop, Bishop and Lehner can fight it out for #1.
haha - classic tookie.
I know its a great point right?
I have been saying this since before the season started....I anticipate people will lose their shit in about 5 posts at the thought of moving Anderson.
But agree 100%
I disagree (but don't use the thumbs).
I think Lehner is the future but I also think that a season and a half as backup will finish off his development properly. If the got thrown to the wolves he might still turn out fine but I prefer the Schneider/Rask approach.
And I think Anderson could be a Vezina candidate, not just an average #1 so having Lehner play behind him isn't so crazy. (Think Luongo/Thomas).
I think people are sensitive b/c of the many years of suffering the Leclaire's or the Gerber's... this feels too good to be true :)
but I agree Andie would yeild the best results
Why would the ref blow the whistle if the puck is loose? Lehner didn't know where the puck was until it was already in.
This one? (The Carry On video):
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=769&id=209251&cmpid=embed-share-video
I also disagree, Lehner needs to learn how to control his rebounds before he's ready to be a #1 keeper. Tbe guy is very athletic, and very good at seeing the puck. The reason he made 41 saves is because he gave up 10 too many rebounds.
Bishop is better than Lehner at rebound control, but he is not as agile.
You'll see the difference when Anderson is back and he swallows pucks and ends opposition momentum. That's the difference between a #1 Vezina candidate and a top prospect.
All but Vanek are centers.
But I think Murray made it clear he won't move Anderson.
the leafs picked Kadri higher than projected to address a need because they were utterly unsuccessful in convincing Garth Snow to not take John Tavares or the AVS in taking Matt Duchene. It was a knee-jerk reaction by Brian Burke and while there were rumors that Ottawa could be a fit for Kadri, there were no signs from BM or his guys - they infact picked Cowen right where he was projected to be picked - #9. and yet there were still people who said Cowen could have gone higher if not for his injury - so the sens did get a steal. The only other D-man picked ahead of him is Victor Hedman.
Cowen has already had impact in the sens organization. helped bingo win the calder and helped the sens make the playoffs and give the NYR a good run for the money.
he will only come back better and with more impact. the Gryba vs Cowen comparison is just silly.
He says that to shut up the media and fans. If he gets a great offer, he's not gonna reject it.
It would have to be a top winger for sure, like Perry, Moulson, P. Kane, E.Kane.
Ya ya I just meant that caliber of player. Wasn't thinking of positions
Do the non-posters hate thoughtful discussions? Sorry but not all the Sens talk is going to be positive/-rainb ow-praise-koola id-rose-coloure d. If you're looking for a homers site, go to the Leafs page, seriously.
Sure he's producing now, but only because Burke is gone. If this kid had been drafted by BM, I think he'd be pretty damn good.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if he's traded this year or next.
Agreed but it would have to be a blockbuster player. MBJ - yeah I was just chirping you a little.
If Murray goes into next season with Lehner/Bishop and trades Anderson it's going to be cup finals or bust. Anything less and he'll have to answer for trading away a Vezina candidate.
Well said Bossman!!
Some people just complain about anything, we call them naggers!
they wont trade him now...he easily seems more dependable than any other leafs forward.
my bet is that toronto will trade Kessel soon. Bozak will stay but will get pipped by Kadri.
I got my info from the TSN ICE Chips page and from watching a Leafs game (like vs. the sens the past 2 weeks).
If you google "NHL Depth Charts" the first link is:
www.rotoworld.com/teams/depth-charts/nhl.aspx
Which shows Kadri as 3rd.
Perhaps you are using a different internet? Or, Bing maybe?
As to your last point... we don't have a 6th overall pick from 2009 playing as our 3rd line center. Apples and oranges...
I agree, though, that it would be nice to have him on our team. Or P. Kane. Or J. Tavares. Also taken ahead of Cowen the same draft. Your point?
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Ekman went at 6
My sense is that either Cowen or Kadri would have been decent fits for Ottawa and both will end up being solid NHL players.
We wouldn't even be talking about this if Kadri had been picked by Phoenix at 6 or Dallas at 8, it's this knee jerk reaction some people have in here to constantly strive to prove that the sens are better than the leafs at every turn.
I would have thought just watching the games for the past 5 or 6 years would have been enough to do that.
Gotta love the 1 point steal in Boston! Hard to complain with what this team is accomplishing right now.
GO SENS GO!!!
my bad - thx for the correction.
Kadri is a good player - no denying that, but that does not in any way make Cowen any less of a pick given what he has already achieved on this team. some people over here have tried to make that point. he played a full 89 games last season too, so the injury questions are misguided too.
i absolutely concur
how do we look now? spezz and MM9 injured means 2/3 of our top line - GONE.
EK65 - major offense driver GONE.
its a knee jerk question to pose that hey what if sens picked Kadri instead of Cowen now that our major players are injured and our 2c Turris is struggling. then i would ask why didnt the sens just tank all the last 6 years and pick 1st overall like the oilers?
first of all, whats the chance BM would have picked kadri in the first place? and how can you say Burke beat him to it without knowing what BMs real plan was? not to mention Burke picked Kadri well above projection. its even more weird when you see that cowen was a key cog last year on the team, playing in all situations - ATOI was 18+.
i dont normally hit the thumbs down button on here but you had a -22 so i had to make it -23 for the irony factor
So many players careers have taken the next step because of Gary Roberts. We all know about Stamkos, but look at what James Neal, Jamie Benn, and Jeff Skinner have done. Gary helped Cody Hodgeson get through his back problems when he thought his career was over. Now Kadri is the next player to shine.
These guys have all had the ability to perform, but Roberts helped them reach the next level and live up to their potential.
Obviously not everyone that trains with Roberts is going to turn into a star, but his track record is quite impressive.
Obviously we all know Turris and Wiercioch packed on some pounds working out here with the Sens trainers, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are more fit than they were last season.
I think Gary would do wonders for Turris, even Silfverberg and Zibanejad, but I'm sure those guys would rather spend the summer back home in Sweden.
Roberts is creating a great name for himself as a trainer - but why not get these lads training with Alfie?
Tell me Alfie isn't one of the best guys in the NHL at getting the most out of himself.
I would love to see Gryba come to Boston, get snapped on waivers by the Bruins and get away from a team that has thoroughly ignored him for 2 1/2 years and forced him into a league minimum contract.
You can't tell me that they never knew he wasn't good enough and you can tell me that he just got good enough in the last 3 months. They only called him up as a last resort, otherwise they would still be promoting their picks and signings and he would be buried in Binghamton. If he was in the Boston organization he would have been up last year for sure. Get out ERIC come back to Beantown!!
Couture would be a nice addition. All we need is Tonya Harding's thugs to take out Niemi and Doug Wilson would be on the phone to Murray. Anderson would definitely net a good return but the problem is finding a willing trade partner. If Murray does move him he has to hit a home run, otherwise I say keep him to mentor Lehner. Someone will offer a first round pick for Bishop this summer, Detroit, San Jose, Columbus might all come knocking. His RFA status only increases his trade value.
Eric Gryba
Drafted 3rd round (68th overall), 2006 by the Ottawa Senators.
He IS one of their picks.
Nice to know we have a guy that other fans covet though.
Agree with you here.
Murray is likely "shopping" Bishop but if GMs counter and ask about Anderson or Lehner he's going to listen - but the asking price for either should be crazy high. If someone wants to offer a stud in return then okay - those guys don't come free.
It seriously makes no sense
Love this picture...hope these two become really tight and are around for many years.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151437047879477&set=a.10151402247074477.499561.5800809476&type=1&theater
in case that link doesn't work
Go team Sweden!
1. Was Murray's interest in him legit or merely a ruse to see if Burke was going to pick Cowen?
2. Which current roster Sens player will knee him in the groin so that I don't have to hear about him anymore?
That's pretty much it. What's done is done. The only non-Sens I care about are past-Sens.
Hey, why don't we talk about Antoine Vermette for a while... (I always liked him and wish he could have blossomed into something just a bit better than he is...)