Tuesday, 26 February 2013 08:46

Bishop Leads Ottawa to Fifth Straight Win

What’s that old saying about “good teams find ways to win hockey games?” It wasn’t pretty on Monday night but the Sens managed to steal two points from the Habs.

Fresh off being named the league's third star, Ben Bishop played his best game in the National Hockey League, steering aside 44 of 45 shots and 4 of 5 Montreal shooters in the shootout, leading Ottawa to a 2-1 shootout victory.  The win was the fifth in a row for the Senators.

The Montreal Canadiens certainly looked the part of the top team in the Eastern Conference, taking the play to the Senators for large stretches of last night’s game.  They checked extremely well and really didn’t allow Ottawa to generate much in the way of offence while consistently controlling the puck in the Senators’ end. 

The Habs did everything right on Monday night but they just couldn’t find a way to beat Ben Bishop.  Bishop turned in one of the more impressive goaltending performances at SBP in recent memory, stealing two points for Ottawa in a game they had no business winning. 

The only shot that got by the Sens netminder was a rocket from Andrei Markov late in the second period that tied the game at 1-1 heading into the final period.  David Dziurzynski scored the only goal for Ottawa, beating Price on a long slap shot the Habs netminder would love to have back.

Peter Regin would score the eventual shootout winner, as he got Carey Price to bite on a fake shot and easily tucked it past the sprawling Habs netminder.  Regin just about ended the game in overtime too, as he rung a shot off the crossbar behind Carey Price.

The win gave Ottawa a perfect 4-0 record on a crucial home stand.  These will be huge points for the Sens as they now embark on a tough stretch that will see them play 8 of 10 away from Scotiabank Place.

The Sens have an off ice workout today and a couple days until their next game on Thursday night. A showdown with the red hot Boston Bruins.

  • Jakob Silfverberg continued his dominance in the shootout, scoring for the third time in as many tries.  Silfverberg has now beat Martin Brodeur, Henrik Lundqvist and Carey Price in the shootout.  Not a bad way to start his NHL career.
  • Peter Regin looked like he was going to miss another game on Monday night.  That was until he marched into Paul MacLean’s office and told the Sens Head Coach he was ready to return.  Really liked what I saw from Regin on Monday night.  He played 14:18, registered a few shots on goal, made a couple excellent defensive plays and nearly ended the game late in the overtime session.  Here’s hoping Regin can build on that performance heading into Thursday night.
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+9 #1 SensChirp 2013-02-26 08:56
Just a quick recap for now. With a couple days between games, we'll take a little stroll through the rumour mill later this afternoon. Some interesting names popping up the past few days...

Stay tuned!
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+16 #2 No65* 2013-02-26 09:06
1- Montreal 27 pts
2- Pittsburg 26 pts
3- Carolina 19 pts
4- Binghamton 26 pts

Enough said

Go SENS Go
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+1 #3 thepez 2013-02-26 09:14
The more and more I watch Eric Gryba play the more impressed I get. He's physical, very good in the defensive zone, calm with the puck and skates very well for a big man. We may have found the Sens version of Shea Weber. Hard not to look into the future and see our top 6 d-men next year as being Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Gryba, Weircioch and Borocop. Best part is that Methot is the oldest at 27.
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+2 #4 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-26 09:23
Quoting thepez:
The more and more I watch Eric Gryba play the more impressed I get. He's physical, very good in the defensive zone, calm with the puck and skates very well for a big man. We may have found the Sens version of Shea Weber. Hard not to look into the future and see our top 6 d-men next year as being Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Gryba, Weircioch and Borocop. Best part is that Methot is the oldest at 27.


You forgot Phillips. He still has one year left on his deal.
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+6 #5 boom 2013-02-26 09:24
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting thepez:
The more and more I watch Eric Gryba play the more impressed I get. He's physical, very good in the defensive zone, calm with the puck and skates very well for a big man. We may have found the Sens version of Shea Weber. Hard not to look into the future and see our top 6 d-men next year as being Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Gryba, Weircioch and Borocop. Best part is that Methot is the oldest at 27.


You forgot Phillips. He still has one year left on his deal.

Benoit has played very well too...
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+5 #6 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-26 09:25
Pistol Pete looked amazing last night. He was rushing the puck very well, had a few good scoring chances and made 3 or 4 great defensive plays in our own zone.

The great thing about having so much depth in this organization is it pushes players to be their best. They know if they don't work their asses off there will be a handful of guys behind them ready to jump into the line-up.
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+9 #7 Merchaholic 2013-02-26 09:28
What a game. I'm so proud of these kids.
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+11 #8 beeblebrox 2013-02-26 09:29
As I was watching the game last night, I was thinking to myself, "What if Spezza, Karlsson, Michalek and Cowen were playing tonight?" and then I giggled with glee and did a little dance.
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+5 #9 ProudSens 2013-02-26 09:29
I had an inkling that a hero would arrise from the lower ranks would win the game for us, but Bishop! and then Regin??? Wow, great job boys. I live this never quit attitude.

Go Sens Go!!
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+4 #10 That Pro Golfer Guy 2013-02-26 09:37
Pistol Pete! Thats a good one. Makes him sound like a real shit kicker!
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+5 #11 Bonus2MacStash 2013-02-26 09:40
Its unbelievable how MacLean is getting EVERYTHING out of everyone on the ice. He's getting the players to give their ALL shift after shift, even when were're chasing the puck, if you watch their feet... They never stop moving!

We had NO business winning that game or hell, even coming out of it with a point. These are games the Sens of old were ALWAYS on the wrong side of. Such a treat to watch their compete level!!!

Without EK and Spezz we won't have anyone in line for the Norris or Art Ross. But all things considered MacLean is a no brainer candidate for the Adams, Condra for the Selke, Goalies competeing for the Jennings, Andy for the Vezina and possibly Hart. They'll put themselves in contention if this continues!!!

Go Sens GOOOOOO!!!
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+2 #12 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 09:47
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:
Its unbelievable how MacLean is getting EVERYTHING out of everyone on the ice. He's getting the players to give their ALL shift after shift, even when were're chasing the puck, if you watch their feet... They never stop moving!

We had NO business winning that game or hell, even coming out of it with a point. These are games the Sens of old were ALWAYS on the wrong side of. Such a treat to watch their compete level!!!

Without EK and Spezz we won't have anyone in line for the Norris or Art Ross. But all things considered MacLean is a no brainer candidate for the Adams, Condra for the Selke, Goalies competeing for the Jennings, Andy for the Vezina and possibly Hart. They'll put themselves in contention if this continues!!!

Go Sens GOOOOOO!!!


Love the passion but dont get too carried away with Condra for Selke lol
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-10 #13 Bonus2MacStash 2013-02-26 09:48
Quoting SensChirp:
Just a quick recap for now. With a couple days between games, we'll take a little stroll through the rumour mill later this afternoon. Some interesting names popping up the past few days...

Stay tuned!


I really think we should go hard at O'Reilly! I love Smitty but O'Reilly is an instant upgrade to our team up the middle. We landed the last holdout that didn't sign (Turry) so I'm hoping BM is in hard on this, I think Nonis is too however, and Bergevin as well. So I'd rather have him on our team than dealing with him likely playing with a division rival.

Got to give to get so

O'Reilly

for

Wiercioch, Smith and 2nd

I read somewhere the Avs might have asked for Silfverberg,,, Lmao yeah ok.... Deal......

If you "throw in" Duchene....
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+3 #14 Mexican Baby Jesus 2013-02-26 09:50
Stole those points. We got manhandled tonight it was tough to watch. Gotta put forward a much better team effort.
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+10 #15 No65* 2013-02-26 10:00
Quoting Mexican Baby Jesus:
Stole those points. We got manhandled tonight it was tough to watch. Gotta put forward a much better team effort.


We lost points in game we have deserved this season, so it feels good to get some while we don't deserve it.

Finally, we are getting some puck luck.
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+3 #16 Tookie 2013-02-26 10:03
The win gave Ottawa a perfect 4-0 record on a crucial home stand. These will be huge points for the Sens as they now embark on a tough stretch that will see them play 8 of 10 away from Scotiabank Place.

Cant agree with you more SC, great homestand by the SENS, thats how you defend your HOUSE!

That road trip is brutal!

Bishop is a beast in the shootout!!

He must also be thanking his posts and crossbar this morning, 3-4 of MTL shots hit the posts!
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+10 #17 Tookie 2013-02-26 10:06
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:

I read somewhere the Avs might have asked for Silfverberg,,, Lmao yeah ok.... Deal......

If you "throw in" Duchene....


Fuck Duchene, throw in Landeskog then we'll talk!
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+7 #18 57gord 2013-02-26 10:16
This team is playing like the Bingo team that won the cup, while it was in the playoffs....... ..Game sevens and overtimes. Bunch of energizing bunnies. Love it and drives me nuts at the same time!
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+9 #19 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-26 10:21
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:

I read somewhere the Avs might have asked for Silfverberg,,, Lmao yeah ok.... Deal......

If you "throw in" Duchene....


Fuck Duchene, throw in Landeskog then we'll talk!


Seriously why should we trade Silfverberg
when he shows so much potential !

His goal against the Rangers, where he used his speed, looking at pass to Alfie,
who was covered, and then jams a great backhander like Rocket Richard !!

To me, Silfverberg will be a super star,
just like I told Karlsson he would become 3 years ago, in a Sens "Meet and Greet "

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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+5 #20 my2sens 2013-02-26 10:23
All I ask for for Christmas (early gift) is some new referees.

Now last night was bad, but at least not lopsided. However, not calling the two goalie interference against Habs then to call weak ones at end of 3rd (both Sens and Habs) THEN to call an atrocious one in OT - I mean common!

We are fighting for our points, but the fight would be easier if we weren't playing NHL clubs and Refs every night.

In the end though. F**k it! Sens Rock!!


GO SENS GO!!!!!!!!
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+6 #21 my2sens 2013-02-26 10:24
RE: Trading Silf

3-3 100% in shootouts.
Quick release.
Fast skater.

Sure trade him, why not. (rolls eyes)
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+2 #22 NikoTn 2013-02-26 10:25
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:

I read somewhere the Avs might have asked for Silfverberg,,, Lmao yeah ok.... Deal......

If you "throw in" Duchene....


Fuck Duchene, throw in Landeskog then we'll talk!


Yeah who cares about Duchene... Landeskog :)

In all seriousness, Ottawa is in a position of strength with any deal really.
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+19 #23 Patrick 2.0 2013-02-26 10:26
OK, seriously...I am not worthy of this team. I do not give them enough credit (probably due to the frustration), then they make me look like an ass by playing their hearts out and winning...and winning....winn ning...winning. ..still winning....i'm an ass.

If you feel the same, feel free to put a thumbs up on this post (no need to humiliate youreself publicly like i just did)

cardiac kids 2.0....seriousl y...shoot out...my heart was pumping out of my chest...I'M GETTING OLD KIDS!!!! I CAN'T TAKE THIS!!!!

freakin' Bishop...bit of help from some post...but that final ringer in OT from Regin even's that (bad)luck out IMO.
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+4 #24 Bonus2MacStash 2013-02-26 10:29
I fully agree

Silf is pretty well UNTOUCHABLE! Groom him like we did Alfie!!!

Same here on my end with EK... Was really wondering what would make BM trade A 3rd to swap 1sts for 3 SPOTS (18-15th)

So I started follwing EK immediately and soon after, kept telling everyone... Wait ; )
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+4 #25 Bonus2MacStash 2013-02-26 10:34
I was being sarcastic on my comment about Silfverberg and the AVs... just writing what I heard... If the Avs were to insist on Silf for Ryan O, I hang up if I'm Murray.

I'd be Royally pissed watching him turn into a superstar on another team. So I'll be content watching him turn into a superstar here : )
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+1 #26 Hax 2013-02-26 10:35
Simmer on twitter (and Frieds in his 30 thoughts) have a point. When Spezza, Michalek and Anderson are all back this team may not be a "cup contender" but they're certainly loaded for the playoffs.

Would that make us "buyers"? Not anything silly of course, but I can see Murray trying to get a top4 D rental with some picks or surplus prospects.

Not sure how I feel about that really. Up until recently I've still felt we should sell off Gonchar and anyone else that won't be back. Now though I'm even wondering what it might take to get Gonchar back for another year for an actual cup run.

9-19-Perry
33-7-11
14-15-25
18-93-22

65-3
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+2 #27 No65* 2013-02-26 10:36
Can't wait for Thursday's against the B's. If they can manage to get the win in Boston, we should start a motion to give the Jack Adams to PMac NOW, no reasons to wait in June.

Silfverberg is starting to show that he will be Alfie's replacement. Not a flashy player but a GREAT player for years to come. He has been our best player in the last stretch and he his just starting to get his feet wet.

I also enjoy watching Zibby using the D's to let his wrist shot go, man the kid can shoot. Give him the time he needs (anotheer full season) and he will be a solid top 6 player.
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+3 #28 Hax 2013-02-26 10:44
Quoting No65*:
Can't wait for Thursday's against the B's. If they can manage to get the win in Boston, we should start a motion to give the Jack Adams to PMac NOW, no reasons to wait in June.

Silfverberg is starting to show that he will be Alfie's replacement. Not a flashy player but a GREAT player for years to come. He has been our best player in the last stretch and he his just starting to get his feet wet.

I also enjoy watching Zibby using the D's to let his wrist shot go, man the kid can shoot. Give him the time he needs (anotheer full season) and he will be a solid top 6 player.


I'm a huge Silfverberg fan. To me, the biggest reason is all that he took on last year being the "poster boy" and team captain and everything and he just went out and was MVP for the season and playoffs.

Kid is special and that shot is durrrrty.
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+6 #29 Rimshot Rondelet 2013-02-26 10:48
Quoting SensChirp:

we'll take a little stroll through the rumour mill later this afternoon. Some interesting names popping up the past few days...

Stay tuned!


You're such a teaser there EKLUND Junior :D
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+3 #30 Boivo 2013-02-26 10:51
I am getting real sick and tired of our boys not standing up for our goalies. They are the main reason we are in the position we are in today. When Andy got run over, Meth was just looking at the ref begging not to get penalized. It has happened almost every game this year. Again last night, big ben gets cross checked in the throat and we did nothing. Whatever happened to if you touch the goalie you die. Other teams still do it, the boys need to show these amazing net minders that they have their backs. Also would love to see the boys finish their checks more instead of following the opposition around the ice after they pass. Other than that loooooooooove this team. go sens go
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-4 #31 Dirk Diggler 2013-02-26 10:55
Looks like we are on the right track... I am not sure I'd want to add a bunch of pieces at the deadline and then have a big run. If anything I'd like to wait for Spezza and Michalek to come back and boost our top line. But, getting another big minute dman would be a good idea. If we can pry JBo from Calgary for a prospect and a later pick I'd be all for it. Karlsson is not coming back this year and we need a guy that can control the play from the back end! Also, the salary cap hit is a non factor since we are way under the cap.
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+2 #32 Hax 2013-02-26 10:57
Quoting Boivo:
I am getting real sick and tired of our boys not standing up for our goalies. They are the main reason we are in the position we are in today. When Andy got run over, Meth was just looking at the ref begging not to get penalized.


I feel you. Thought in Meth's defense he was technically guilty of tripping on the play.

I was bit disappointed that Bishop tried to flop the second time he got touched though.

I assume Lehner would have tossed the blocker and trapper and went Emery on Brust though.
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+3 #33 Hax 2013-02-26 10:58
Quoting riceroni:
Looks like we are on the right track... I am not sure I'd want to add a bunch of pieces at the deadline and then have a big run. If anything I'd like to wait for Spezza and Michalek to come back and boost our top line. But, getting another big minute dman would be a good idea. If we can pry JBo from Calgary for a prospect and a later pick I'd be all for it. Karlsson is not coming back this year and we need a guy that can control the play from the back end! Also, the salary cap hit is a non factor since we are way under the cap.


Agree completely. The only thing I would consider adding is another legit top 4 D (no need for a "depth guy") or maybe a scoring winger but I doubt there'd be any available.

As for Karlsson not coming back - don't forget he IS Swedish. LOL
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+2 #34 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-26 11:01
Quoting riceroni:
Looks like we are on the right track... I am not sure I'd want to add a bunch of pieces at the deadline and then have a big run. If anything I'd like to wait for Spezza and Michalek to come back and boost our top line. But, getting another big minute dman would be a good idea. If we can pry JBo from Calgary for a prospect and a later pick I'd be all for it. Karlsson is not coming back this year and we need a guy that can control the play from the back end! Also, the salary cap hit is a non factor since we are way under the cap.


The salary cap may not be an issue but Melnyk's budget sure is!
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-3 #35 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 11:01
Quoting Hax:
Quoting riceroni:
Looks like we are on the right track... I am not sure I'd want to add a bunch of pieces at the deadline and then have a big run. If anything I'd like to wait for Spezza and Michalek to come back and boost our top line. But, getting another big minute dman would be a good idea. If we can pry JBo from Calgary for a prospect and a later pick I'd be all for it. Karlsson is not coming back this year and we need a guy that can control the play from the back end! Also, the salary cap hit is a non factor since we are way under the cap.


Agree completely. The only thing I would consider adding is another legit top 4 D (no need for a "depth guy") or maybe a scoring winger but I doubt there'd be any available.

As for Karlsson not coming back - don't forget he IS Swedish. LOL


Karlsson will not be back
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+4 #36 hq8 2013-02-26 11:02
some the tough questions:
who sits when Michalek gets back????
and do they send Zib back when spezza comes back? or keep him with the team? or play him instead of someone else??

didnt like that gallagher kid from mtl at all, he cross checked bishop and then in the shootout slashed bishop's stick after the save was made - if you see the replay Bishop is staring him down as he skates away. kid needs to be handed a lesson.

i personally think that dziurzynski has made it very very tough to be sent back.
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+1 #37 Hax 2013-02-26 11:06
Quoting hq8:
some the tough questions:
who sits when Michalek gets back????
and do they send Zib back when spezza comes back? or keep him with the team? or play him instead of someone else??

didnt like that gallagher kid from mtl at all, he cross checked bishop and then in the shootout slashed bishop's stick after the save was made - if you see the replay Bishop is staring him down as he skates away. kid needs to be handed a lesson.

i personally think that dziurzynski has made it very very tough to be sent back.


I'd have to think Daugavins goes back to 13th forward when Michalek is back (Grant probably sent down). But MacLean will likely continue to cycle guys through. And I can't see Zibanejad going down. Dziurzynski might be the guy if everyone else is healthy and nobody gets traded - even though I like him too.
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+1 #38 Tookie 2013-02-26 11:10
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:

I read somewhere the Avs might have asked for Silfverberg,,, Lmao yeah ok.... Deal......

If you "throw in" Duchene....


Fuck Duchene, throw in Landeskog then we'll talk!


Seriously why should we trade Silfverberg
when he shows so much potential!


Well if the rumors are true and the Avs are interested, then I'm sure Murray has looked into it. But yeah I wouldnt do it for O'Reilly thats for sure.

If I'm Murray its Landeskog or nothing. Landy is 2yrs younger and is a star now, not to mention the youngest Captain ever in the history of the NHL and it doesnt seem to phase him one bit.

The Avs wont accept but thats the only way I would trade Silf.
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+1 #39 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 11:10
Smith should sit :)

If Dzuirzinski can have 2 goals in hsi time up and ZIb already with 3, and Smith's line got handled easily yesterday and was arguably our worst line

Time for the guy to sit and get the Greening treatment, might do him well, and I don't care if he is "shutting down" top lines. This is ridiculous. What is it now over 100 periods of hockey since his last goal?

Minus my post all you want but in all honesty he needs to do more than shutting down a line, because in reality its Bishop & Anderson shutting down the top lines not Smith
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-1 #40 Dirk Diggler 2013-02-26 11:16
Anyone know when Milan gets back?

I'd say Grant or Dzuirzinsky (SP?) gets sent down. I mean I like these guys but they are plugs. If we lose a game a lot of people here will be calling for their heads!
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+2 #41 Hax 2013-02-26 11:17
Quoting Alcatraz:
Smith should sit :)

If Dzuirzinski can have 2 goals in hsi time up and ZIb already with 3, and Smith's line got handled easily yesterday and was arguably our worst line

Time for the guy to sit and get the Greening treatment, might do him well, and I don't care if he is "shutting down" top lines. This is ridiculous. What is it now over 100 periods of hockey since his last goal?

Minus my post all you want but in all honesty he needs to do more than shutting down a line, because in reality its Bishop & Anderson shutting down the top lines not Smith


It's funny with Smith. All I hear is complaining from fans but all I hear from the media and even MacLean is how great he has been. Last night wasn't a great game for sure but I still think he's key to our "win without scoring" gameplan.
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+1 #42 Tookie 2013-02-26 11:17
Quoting Hax:

I'd have to think Daugavins goes back to 13th forward when Michalek is back (Grant probably sent down). But MacLean will likely continue to cycle guys through. And I can't see Zibanejad going down. Dziurzynski might be the guy if everyone else is healthy and nobody gets traded - even though I like him too.


Guys you have to take in consideration what happens when our injured soldiers come back, right now we are playing VERY VERY conservative, almost strictly defend first and wait for a mistake or drag it out to OT and even shootout as it seems to be our strong suit.

But when Michalek, Spezza and God willing Karlsson come back, that changes dramatically. Guys who are playing well now and reason why we win might get sent down or play less.

Its going to have an effect and I'm not so sure it overwhelmingly positive.

I guess its a good problem to have tho, like 2 stellar goalies...
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0 #43 No65* 2013-02-26 11:21
Quoting Alcatraz:
Smith should sit :)

If Dzuirzinski can have 2 goals in hsi time up and ZIb already with 3, and Smith's line got handled easily yesterday and was arguably our worst line

Time for the guy to sit and get the Greening treatment, might do him well, and I don't care if he is "shutting down" top lines. This is ridiculous. What is it now over 100 periods of hockey since his last goal?

Minus my post all you want but in all honesty he needs to do more than shutting down a line, because in reality its Bishop & Anderson shutting down the top lines not Smith


What I say to this is that considering Smith has not yet started to score can only be good news as we still get the wins. This is called depth.

He will get his goals but as long as everyone's contributing, we are ok.
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+1 #44 thepez 2013-02-26 11:24
I think that Dziurzynski has to stay. The kid is big, strong and fast and a prototypical 3rd or 4th line winger. Same for Daugavins, have to find a place on the 4th line for him. He may be our best penalty killer.

Murray is in a good spot. He'll be able to trade quantity for quality if he chooses.
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0 #45 hq8 2013-02-26 11:25
@Hax:
yea totally forgot Daug.
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+3 #46 No65* 2013-02-26 11:29
Experts are saying that 53 - 55 points would be enough for a playoffs spot this year. Should this be the case, then all we have to do is play ,500 hockey for the balance of the season.

We are better than a 500 team with the goaltending we are getting and Spezza should be back for the last 15 games.

We could be the cinderella team this year. And if we get as far as the conference final, maybe we could we get Karlsson back? I have a feeling Karlsson will be a fast healer, we all know he is not human right?.

Can you imagine a final Ottawa-Chicago?
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0 #47 Hax 2013-02-26 11:33
Quoting hq8:
@Hax:
yea totally forgot Daug.


I think JOB is a bit more versatile than Daug - but you could certainly slot him in as well. The bottom six next year could have any combination of about 12 guys really.

But yeah, he's either 13th forward or maybe JOB is 13th and Daug plays with Zibby/Condra.
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-1 #48 SensChirp 2013-02-26 11:35
Michalek is still having issues with swelling in the knee apparently. It seems like it's something he may end up playing through but surgery definitely isn't off the table.
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+1 #49 Hax 2013-02-26 11:40
Quoting SensChirp:
Michalek is still having issues with swelling in the knee apparently. It seems like it's something he may end up playing through but surgery definitely isn't off the table.


That's almost a negative to the team winning lately. I bet had we dropped a bunch of games recently that Michalek would have already had surgery but he and the team are hesitant since playoffs look realistic still.

Without knowing any specifics (of course) I'd be tempted to tell him to go have surgery and be ready to kill it next year (maybe with Perry on the other wing).
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-1 #50 Jason555 2013-02-26 11:43
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting thepez:
The more and more I watch Eric Gryba play the more impressed I get. He's physical, very good in the defensive zone, calm with the puck and skates very well for a big man. We may have found the Sens version of Shea Weber. Hard not to look into the future and see our top 6 d-men next year as being Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Gryba, Weircioch and Borocop. Best part is that Methot is the oldest at 27.


You forgot Phillips. He still has one year left on his deal.


I'd like to see Phillips traded before his contract is up. He has decent value and we could get something in return. I really don't want to see him play out the last year and go for nothing or even worse we re-sign him. His play is definitely declining.
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0 #51 hq8 2013-02-26 11:44
Quoting Hax:
Quoting hq8:
@Hax:
yea totally forgot Daug.


I think JOB is a bit more versatile than Daug - but you could certainly slot him in as well. The bottom six next year could have any combination of about 12 guys really.

But yeah, he's either 13th forward or maybe JOB is 13th and Daug plays with Zibby/Condra.


except JOB has 4 out of the sens measly 48 goals this year lol
its tough to compare. daug has got hands , tricks, smarts and wheels but JOB has that energy and crash+bang to him, with finish.

i feel greening has really stepped up his game all of a sudden.
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+2 #52 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 11:49
ideal lineup for me:

Michalek-Spezza-Silf
Regin-Turris-Alfie
Greening-Zibanejad-Condra
JOB-Smith-Neil
Ex: Dzuizinski and Daug
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0 #53 Jason555 2013-02-26 11:53
[I'd have to think Daugavins goes back to 13th forward when Michalek is back (Grant probably sent down). But MacLean will likely continue to cycle guys through. And I can't see Zibanejad going down. Dziurzynski might be the guy if everyone else is healthy and nobody gets traded - even though I like him too.

Dzuirzinski has definitely impressed me but it's pretty clear he's not ready to play in the NHL. He's just here to get a taste of it, he will definitely be sent back down once we get back some players.
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0 #54 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-26 11:55
Quoting Alcatraz:
ideal lineup for me:

Michalek-Spezza-Silf
Regin-Turris-Alfie
Greening-Zibanejad-Condra
JOB-Smith-Neil
Ex: Dzuizinski and Daug


If all our injured players get back before the end of this season, this lineup would be super strong for a long run in the playoffs !!

Karlsson and Cowen would be the only missing links !!
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+3 #55 Kielbasa 2013-02-26 11:55
I agree with you Tookie. This "predicament" the team is in right now, I am sure Murray would sooner take this than the alternative. Having an abundance of hard working players who are getting the job done is definitely a plus for this organization. This has been a long time coming. It gives Murray a lot of leverage if and when he decides to make a trade.

My preference is for Murray to sit on his hands right now until the last minute. Wait for those desperate teams needing some talented youth. It will mean a better return for the Sens in the end.

I also wouldn't want Murray to give up some of the proven talent we have in our system right now for a player like O'Reilley. As much potential as he may have, the asking price may be too high. Him holding out like this, and holding the Avalanche hostage reminds me way too much of Heatley. Really not interested in a cancerous Heatley 2.0.
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+1 #56 Kielbasa 2013-02-26 12:00
And Michalek should call it a season if he is going to play through an injury that isn't completely resolved. The team is playing well on all cylinders, and if he can't contribute 110% then have the surgery. Maybe watching these young kids playing hard will inspire him to come back and do the same next season.
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+1 #57 thepez 2013-02-26 12:05
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Dzuirzinski has definitely impressed me but it's pretty clear he's not ready to play in the NHL. He's just here to get a taste of it, he will definitely be sent back down once we get back some players.

Can't agree with that comment. If you look at the way he has played, especially the physical aspect he brings to the table, he is an NHL player. Even coach Mac thinks he is by the number of minutes he plays and the important situations he is thrown into.

Either way the injuries that have happened, in a twisted sick kind of way, have actually benefited the Sens.
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0 #58 Tookie 2013-02-26 12:09
Quoting No65*:
Experts are saying that 53 - 55 points would be enough for a playoffs spot this year. Should this be the case, then all we have to do is play ,500 hockey for the balance of the season.

We are better than a 500 team with the goaltending we are getting and Spezza should be back for the last 15 games.

We could be the cinderella team this year. And if we get as far as the conference final, maybe we could we get Karlsson back? I have a feeling Karlsson will be a fast healer, we all know he is not human right?.

Can you imagine a final Ottawa-Chicago?


Vs Rayzor Ray and his dirty dirty Blackhawk friends!!
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+3 #59 Hax 2013-02-26 12:11
Quoting Tookie:
Vs Rayzor Ray and his dirty dirty Blackhawk friends!!


At least for home games we could count on Ray being late to the arena since he'd get pulled over every few minutes by the OPP.
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+2 #60 Rimshot Rondelet 2013-02-26 12:16
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:

Got to give to get so
O'Reilly
for
Wiercioch, Smith and 2nd


Colorado would never make that trade.
28 other teams also want O'Reilly
Someone will overpay.

Philly ? Islanders ? Columbus ? Blues ?
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-1 #61 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 12:20
If we want Reilly we would have to sell Colorado on this package

Puemple
Smith

Would it work? probably not, as Puemple is too much of a question mark as any prospect is, but I think thats fair value
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0 #62 CarloswSPECR1 2013-02-26 12:20
Quoting Bonus2MacStash:


I really think we should go hard at O'Reilly! I love Smitty but O'Reilly is an instant upgrade to our team up the middle. We landed the last holdout that didn't sign (Turry)


There's a huuuge difference between Turris and O'Reilly:

1 - Turris wanted to put in a higher/Top-6 Role, instead of being on the 4th Line.

2- O'Reilly wants More money (ORLY?)

ORLY wants more money, be paid like a top-5 player in the league (Spezza like money), doesn't produce the same numbers as top-5 guy (5-6 Mil), yet the AVs are shopping him like a Top-3 player, when he's really not.

ORLY?
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0 #63 conor_smythe 2013-02-26 12:22
Quoting No65*:
Experts are saying that 53 - 55 points would be enough for a playoffs spot this year. Should this be the case, then all we have to do is play ,500 hockey for the balance of the season.


Thanks, but I'm no expert! Just calculated the winning percentage of the 8th Seed for the past 10 years and averaged it out


I said 26 wins 2 weeks before the season started.

The guys on TV aren't experts either. Just a dying breed of lucky mofos who knew the right people, but not the right stuff
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0 #64 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 12:28
Quoting conor_smythe:
Quoting No65*:
Experts are saying that 53 - 55 points would be enough for a playoffs spot this year. Should this be the case, then all we have to do is play ,500 hockey for the balance of the season.


Thanks, but I'm no expert! Just calculated the winning percentage of the 8th Seed for the past 10 years and averaged it out


I said 26 wins 2 weeks before the season started.

The guys on TV aren't experts either. Just a dying breed of lucky mofos who knew the right people, but not the right stuff


Andy Sutton thinks PJ Stock is an expert
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+7 #65 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-26 12:29
Do not understand why so many posters on Senschirp are all excited about O'Reilly ??

Has played only 3 seasons in NHL and his
goals are 8+13+18 = 39 goals.

He is not worth more than $ 2-2.5 Million!
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+1 #66 Hax 2013-02-26 12:30
Yeah I have my concerns about O'Reilly. I'm sure he's a great player but with his dad being so involved and the points raised about him wanting to get paid now - I just don't think he's a fit here.

Plus where do you slot him? 3C? doesn't seem like he'd accept that. Do you force him or Turris to the wing? Do you trade away Turris?? Do you trade Spezza and stick ROR as #1C????
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-6 #67 T.o Sens fan 2013-02-26 12:33
Take as u will but word in Toronto radio is they see Sens throwing the season starting this week and trade away Anderson .. Just thought I'd share . 590
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0 #68 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 12:36
The only thing in favor of O'Reilly is the Justin Schultz factor

Many people said the same thing about who cares about a guy with no NHL experience, he's a cancer etc etc etc

The only people who kept defending him and praising him were the scouts and TV personalities, and these are the same people defending O'Reilly now
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+1 #69 SensChirp 2013-02-26 12:37
Quoting T.o Sens fan:
Take as u will but word in Toronto radio is they see Sens throwing the season starting this week and trade away Anderson .. Just thought I'd share . 590

Umm what? Care to elaborate?
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+4 #70 CarloswSPECR1 2013-02-26 12:40
Personally, I really like our top 2 Centres:
Spezza 1C
Turris 2C

I'm liking Zibby as 3C right now, and I'm sure he'll grow into a Top-2C in the future (He's still young. Even the Sedin Twins started on the 3rd line. It took them around 5 years before they were top line)

Smith as our 3C/4C

We have depth, and if we get a guy like ORLY, where are you going to put him?
1- We're not trading Spezza
2- PMac is very high on Turris, and he's working hard, and doing all the intangibles
3- Zibby and Smith are better/harder workers than ORLY.
4- Jim O'Brien is good 5C.

The only trade that makes sense is to trade away Turris — which is utter BS.

We don't need ORLY.
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-4 #71 T.o Sens fan 2013-02-26 12:40
Not sure who it was exactly , I know It was a guest might have been Craig button . But he said he has heared from other sources that the Sens will be throwing the season to finish bottom 5 and also trade away Anderson to a team who needs goaltending ie Philly
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0 #72 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-26 12:41
Quoting boom:
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting thepez:
The more and more I watch Eric Gryba play the more impressed I get. He's physical, very good in the defensive zone, calm with the puck and skates very well for a big man. We may have found the Sens version of Shea Weber. Hard not to look into the future and see our top 6 d-men next year as being Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Gryba, Weircioch and Borocop. Best part is that Methot is the oldest at 27.


You forgot Phillips. He still has one year left on his deal.

Benoit has played very well too...


Given the new players this year I will gladly take a dud of a Latts and Lundin for all the pleasant surprises that Methot + Benoit + Gryba have brought to the table. VERY impressed so far!
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+9 #73 Kielbasa 2013-02-26 12:41
Quoting T.o Sens fan:
Take as u will but word in Toronto radio is they see Sens throwing the season starting this week and trade away Anderson .. Just thought I'd share . 590


I think you need to stop listening to Toronto radio.
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-1 #74 andreasdackell 2013-02-26 12:42
i think it will be harder to finish bottom 5 at this point than miss the playoffs
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+2 #75 ROBZILLA 2013-02-26 12:42
i find it hard to believe we would give andy away!!!! i know we ahve 3 terrific goalies.. but nothing like anderson.
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+1 #76 T.o Sens fan 2013-02-26 12:43
No choice I live in Toronto
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+1 #77 andreasdackell 2013-02-26 12:44
Chirp lets hear these rumours already!!!!!!

and with regards to michalek, do you know if he is taking part in the off ice workout today? I heard there was a chance he practices before boston.
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-1 #78 ZachPraiseTheSwedes 2013-02-26 12:44
Quoting T.o Sens fan:
Take as u will but word in Toronto radio is they see Sens throwing the season starting this week and trade away Anderson .. Just thought I'd share . 590



Problem with throwing the season away or "tanking", which ever way you do it is that we are almost half way through the season and our record is too good now to tank. We would have to be insaaaanely bad in order to finish in bottom 5. It just won't happen, even if we did trade Anderson, Gonchar, etc

It would actually be stupid to fold. That said, this idea of tanking doesn't actually exist. Even when a team trades away all their best players at the deadline, they still go out and try to win games. No GM, coach, or players actually try to loose. Not only are they highly competitive executives/coac hes/athletes, they are also fighting for jobs which pay millions of dollars
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+2 #79 T.o Sens fan 2013-02-26 12:46
Not saying I believe the comments just wanted to share . Anderson being traded will save money with the new salary floor next year . And sign bishop cheep .
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-1 #80 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 12:48
Quoting T.o Sens fan:
Not saying I believe the comments just wanted to share . Anderson being traded will save money with the new salary floor next year . And sign bishop cheep .


Anderson is cheap for a starting goalie. If we want to cut costs in net at that salary then we might as well fold up and move cities

As for Bishop if he keeps playing this way we will have to move him to cut costs, because why have Bishop backing up at 2 mill instead of Lehner at ELC
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0 #81 thepez 2013-02-26 12:49
If the Sens did trade Anderson to Philly, the starting price would be Couturier + first rounder/high prospect.

Can't see either team wanting to do that. Obviously Leaf fans are starting to get worried about how good the Sens really are and more importantly how good they will become.
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0 #82 ZachPraiseTheSwedes 2013-02-26 12:49
I'm curious as to when contract talks will start with Bishop.

Will they start before end of season?
If not, when will serious trade talks start? Trade deadline or when he becomes an RFA?
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0 #83 Hax 2013-02-26 12:53
Quoting ZachPraiseTheSwedes:
I'm curious as to when contract talks will start with Bishop.

Will they start before end of season?
If not, when will serious trade talks start? Trade deadline or when he becomes an RFA?


I can't see them extending him. I think when he becomes a true RFA (another 4 games I think) it just means his trade value goes up.

Anderson's not getting traded and neither is Lehner. And I can't see us keeping all three past this summer.
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0 #84 Shibal07 2013-02-26 12:55
If Spezza and Michalek were to come back, Zibanejad would instantly be slotted on the wing. The sens really have no plans on keeping Zibanejad in the center position, with Turris and Spezza as the top 2 centers and with Zibanejad being a 6th overall pick, Zibanejad is projected to be a scoring winger for the sens in the future.

Zibanejad's play has not been that compelling in on the wing in the NHL, but he was a beast when playing the wing in WCJCH, world under 18s, and more recently his post injury stint in the AHL.

By the way I finally figured out why Zibanejad's draft stock rose so high in 2011. He did have 8 points in 4 games in the tournament, But I read that in the game against Norway he had a hat trick + 3 assists playing on a line with a less heralded center named Viktor Rask. Meaning that he has the potential to be a player that can score while creating scoring chances for himself.
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0 #85 Shibal07 2013-02-26 12:56
I meant "WJHC" lol.
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-2 #86 Pete 2013-02-26 12:57
Is it just me or does Alfie look like he's playing hurt or sick?! I was at the game last night and he just didn't look like the good old Alfie I know and love.

Not even close to being the dominate player he should be in our current situation...
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-2 #87 Hax 2013-02-26 12:57
Quoting Shibal07:
The sens really have no plans on keeping Zibanejad in the center position


Not sure this is true. MacLean clearly likes him at center. I get that a 6th overall pick should ideally be in your top 6, but I think they might just have him penciled in as 3C right now.
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0 #88 ZachPraiseTheSwedes 2013-02-26 13:01
Quoting Hax:
Quoting ZachPraiseTheSwedes:
I'm curious as to when contract talks will start with Bishop


I can't see them extending him. I think when he becomes a true RFA (another 4 games I think) it just means his trade value goes up.

Anderson's not getting traded and neither is Lehner. And I can't see us keeping all three past this summer.



See, I used to also feel that way but now I'm not so sure.

Lehner still has 1 year left on his 2-way contract. Also wouldn't hurt to keep Bishop as a security blanket.

I know it gets to a point where you're hurting Lehner's development when you're keeping him in the minors too long but Murray is not about to get in to a position where he's forced to trade Bishop. I think he'll wait till someone is desperate or package him or Lehner for a superstar
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0 #89 Shibal07 2013-02-26 13:07
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Shibal07:
The sens really have no plans on keeping Zibanejad in the center position


Not sure this is true. MacLean clearly likes him at center. I get that a 6th overall pick should ideally be in your top 6, but I think they might just have him penciled in as 3C right now.


I remember before the before the Binghamton season started, Murray said that if Zibanejad were to ever get top 6 time he will have to adjust to playing as a winger, which is why I do not think the sens will be keeping Zibanejad as a 3C for the next 2-3 years while Spezza and Turris still being in the line up.

I don't think Maclean really mentioned that he likes Zibanejad as a Center better than wing, I think he was playing center just because Regin and Spezza was out. Essentially when Spezza comes back, Zibanejad is either a scratch, sent down to Bingo, or becomes a winger.
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0 #90 ZachPraiseTheSwedes 2013-02-26 13:08
Also I'm still not completely sold on trading either of them. Why not sign bishop now and see how Anderson plays next year. Maybe trade him instead.

Wouldn't a long term tandem of Lehner and Bishop look good?
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+2 #91 No65* 2013-02-26 13:10
Quoting Pete:
Is it just me or does Alfie look like he's playing hurt or sick?! I was at the game last night and he just didn't look like the good old Alfie I know and love.

Not even close to being the dominate player he should be in our current situation...


Every Sens player except Bishop and Regin looked hurt last night. Out of gas I think. The 2 days break will help for sure before playing the B's.
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0 #92 Hax 2013-02-26 13:10
Quoting ZachPraiseTheSwedes:
I know it gets to a point where you're hurting Lehner's development when you're keeping him in the minors too long but Murray is not about to get in to a position where he's forced to trade Bishop. I think he'll wait till someone is desperate or package him or Lehner for a superstar


Yeah I think before the summer is over they have to decide if Lehner is the future after all. If he is then you pretty much have to move out Bishop (or Andy I guess). I just think the status quo is going to hurt Lehner too much - playing yet another year in Bingo?

Time will tell I guess.
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+1 #93 Hax 2013-02-26 13:13
Quoting ZachPraiseTheSwedes:
Also I'm still not completely sold on trading either of them. Why not sign bishop now and see how Anderson plays next year. Maybe trade him instead.

Wouldn't a long term tandem of Lehner and Bishop look good?


Yeah it might for sure. But I still think with Andy having two more years left that's the ideal scenario for Lehner to transition from backup to starter by the time Anderson leaves.

But the way Anderson is playing it's tempting to picture him as our #1 for the next 5 years.
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+3 #94 Tookie 2013-02-26 13:13
Quoting Pete:
Is it just me or does Alfie look like he's playing hurt or sick?! I was at the game last night and he just didn't look like the good old Alfie I know and love.

Not even close to being the dominate player he should be in our current situation...


Dude he's 40!! playing a young man's game. He's not dominant anymore due to age.

He needs regular maintenance days to recoup but has played really well thus far.
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0 #95 boom 2013-02-26 13:15
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Shibal07:
The sens really have no plans on keeping Zibanejad in the center position


Not sure this is true. MacLean clearly likes him at center. I get that a 6th overall pick should ideally be in your top 6, but I think they might just have him penciled in as 3C right now.

That's the point that most everyone seems to be missing. Where they have him playing now, and where they envision him playing 3 years from now are two entirely different things...do you think Tyler Seguin will spend his entire career on the wing? (just one example, off the top of my head)
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-2 #96 Tookie 2013-02-26 13:16
Quoting Hax:

But the way Anderson is playing it's tempting to picture him as our #1 for the next 5 years.


IF this happens we lose Lehner for sure and probably Bishop since he wont want to stay backup. Not worth it in my opinion, better to trade Andy next year, unless a major collapse happens, Andy will get us a pretty hefty package in return.
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-1 #97 jakester 2013-02-26 13:20
Zack Smith is entering Gomez Territory - he must be approaching a one year date for date of his last goal. I like Zack but he hardly fights anymore and he isn't scoring - upgrade Grant please. No hard feelings.
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0 #98 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-26 13:25
Quoting Hax:
[quote name="ZachPraiseTheSwedes"]I know it gets to a point where you're hurting Lehner's development when you're keeping him in the minors too long but Murray is not about to get in to a position where he's forced to trade Bishop. I think he'll wait till someone is desperate or package him or Lehner for a superstar



First time in over 20 years that we have
3 great goalies.

I do not think that Lehner "needs " more
development in Binghamton, next season !

He will definitely be in Ottawa as the backup goalie to Anderson, or maybe Bishop ??

Ottawa will start next season with 2 goalies and not 3, so a goalie gets traded for sure.

Murray will have to face another tough decision.
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0 #99 hq8 2013-02-26 13:30
Quoting Alcatraz:
The only thing in favor of O'Reilly is the Justin Schultz factor

Many people said the same thing about who cares about a guy with no NHL experience, he's a cancer etc etc etc

The only people who kept defending him and praising him were the scouts and TV personalities, and these are the same people defending O'Reilly now


except schultz hasnt really set the oilers on fire like he was made out to. i thought his mate from anaheim Gardiner had a much bigger impact with the leafs on the other hand.

but they all pale in comparison to EK65.
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0 #100 Tcharger 2013-02-26 13:33
Quoting hq8:
Quoting Alcatraz:
The only thing in favor of O'Reilly is the Justin Schultz factor

Many people said the same thing about who cares about a guy with no NHL experience, he's a cancer etc etc etc

The only people who kept defending him and praising him were the scouts and TV personalities, and these are the same people defending O'Reilly now


except schultz hasnt really set the oilers on fire like he was made out to. i thought his mate from anaheim Gardiner had a much bigger impact with the leafs on the other hand.

but they all pale in comparison to EK65.



Klefbom is the D to watch in Edmonton.
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+1 #101 Woody85 2013-02-26 13:35
This goalie situation is stressing me out. We've got 3 NHL calibre goalies. I don't think Lehner will want to do another year in Bingo.

Really glad I have nothing to do with the decision Murray will have to make!
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0 #102 hq8 2013-02-26 13:39
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
Quoting hq8:
Quoting Alcatraz:
The only thing in favor of O'Reilly is the Justin Schultz factor

Many people said the same thing about who cares about a guy with no NHL experience, he's a cancer etc etc etc

The only people who kept defending him and praising him were the scouts and TV personalities, and these are the same people defending O'Reilly now


except schultz hasnt really set the oilers on fire like he was made out to. i thought his mate from anaheim Gardiner had a much bigger impact with the leafs on the other hand.

but they all pale in comparison to EK65.



Klefbom is the D to watch in Edmonton.


you know, i dont doubt the level of the oilers prospects, but their management and coaching combine to nullify them completely. Oilers need to get Lindy Ruff. This Kruger guy looks just like a bigger renney.
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+1 #103 Hax 2013-02-26 13:44
I think the smart move is still to trade Bishop when the right deal comes through (and clearly after Anderson is back to 100%).

Then assuming Lehner is the beast we all hope he will be to trade Anderson (to the West or KHL if we can - don't want to see him back in the visitors end often) when his contract is nearly up and let Lehner step in as the full-time #1.

Go team Sweden!
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0 #104 hq8 2013-02-26 13:45
the anderson-bishop -lehner decision is going to probably be one of Bryan Murray's most crucial decisions as GM of ottawa. in toughness and challenge it probably ranks right up there with the heatley debacle. Bishop is an unknown quantity in that we havent seen him play too many games yet and if yesterday gives any indications is that the more he plays, the more he can steal games for the team in front of him. which brings the sens to a very tricky fork: 3 goalies, each can steal games by himself, 2 young, 1 older and 1 of them the biggest goalie ever. people who watch St.Louis closely (Darren Pang) are still singing Bishop praises. The potential with Lehner is still crazy high. Andy is vezina quality every night.
should BM just solve his goalie problem and trade Bishop? or should he be selfish and trade Andy? or should he be let go a well-developed Lehner?
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+2 #105 Tcharger 2013-02-26 13:46
Quoting Hax:
I think the smart move is still to trade Bishop when the right deal comes through (and clearly after Anderson is back to 100%).

Then assuming Lehner is the beast we all hope he will be to trade Anderson (to the West or KHL if we can - don't want to see him back in the visitors end often) when his contract is nearly up and let Lehner step in as the full-time #1.

Go team Sweden!

I think that is key...don't deal him because we have three capable goalies...deal him because there is a deal that we just can't say no to.

There really is no need to rush
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0 #106 Hax 2013-02-26 13:48
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
Quoting Hax:
I think the smart move is still to trade Bishop when the right deal comes through (and clearly after Anderson is back to 100%).

Then assuming Lehner is the beast we all hope he will be to trade Anderson (to the West or KHL if we can - don't want to see him back in the visitors end often) when his contract is nearly up and let Lehner step in as the full-time #1.

Go team Sweden!

I think that is key...don't deal him because we have three capable goalies...deal him because there is a deal that we just can't say no to.

There really is no need to rush


Next question - what do we look for in return? Generally that is. Picks? Prospects? A proven young player?
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0 #107 hq8 2013-02-26 13:50
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
Quoting Hax:
I think the smart move is still to trade Bishop when the right deal comes through (and clearly after Anderson is back to 100%).

Then assuming Lehner is the beast we all hope he will be to trade Anderson (to the West or KHL if we can - don't want to see him back in the visitors end often) when his contract is nearly up and let Lehner step in as the full-time #1.

Go team Sweden!

I think that is key...don't deal him because we have three capable goalies...deal him because there is a deal that we just can't say no to.

There really is no need to rush


actually, technically, BM can still plug Lehner in the AHL next year. yea it would be harsh probably, but Lehner can't do anything about it - he can't bolt to the SEL if he wants a career in the NHL. technically BM can still run with Bishop and Andy next year and make a decision next deadline.
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+1 #108 Tcharger 2013-02-26 13:51
I don't think we need prospects...we are already pretty stacked.

I would ideally see any of the goalies used in a deal to get a stud forward.
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+3 #109 my2sens 2013-02-26 13:52
With the Sens voodoo doll set remaining to be found and 'injuries' occurring with frequency, I would suggest we keep all 3 goalies.

And we need to get our hands on a Bruins set...
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+5 #110 No65* 2013-02-26 13:52
Quoting jakester:
Zack Smith is entering Gomez Territory - he must be approaching a one year date for date of his last goal. I like Zack but he hardly fights anymore and he isn't scoring - upgrade Grant please. No hard feelings.


Zack Smith has a different role than Gomez which was mainly offensive. Smith plays against the other best offensive line and PMac appreciate his work and when he will start scoring goals, then they will come as bonuses.
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+6 #111 my2sens 2013-02-26 13:55
Can we stop beating down on Smith? Without him, guaranteed, we would not be in the same position we are in.

He recently cut his hair, give him time to adjust to his lighter frame.
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-1 #112 Tcharger 2013-02-26 13:58
I personally, would prefer to move Anderson(as insane as it is) but I think he is the most likely to bring(not looking at teams needs or need to move anyone) us someone like Bobby Ryan, Corey Perry, Evander Kane.

Anyone moving an absolute sure thing forward is going to want absolute sure thing in return.


Although, I am honestly sitting in the group that doesn't want to move any of the three...but in the sense of asset management I figure we want to get the most return, and right now, I figure that is Andy.


Again, I hope next year we have this same problem.
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+2 #113 Hax 2013-02-26 13:59
Quoting my2sens:
Can we stop beating down on Smith? Without him, guaranteed, we would not be in the same position we are in.

He recently cut his hair, give him time to adjust to his lighter frame.


Agreed. Some douchebag on twitter was counting the periods and minutes since his last goal. He clearly has no clue about why the Sens are winning lately. (Not that I wouldn't love to see Smitty pot one soon.)

Speaking of hair, Alfie's viking look is getting a bit scary.
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0 #114 thepez 2013-02-26 14:03
Any time I think about Bishop being traded, the name of Zdeno Chara keeps popping up in my head. The senile Muckler traded away something tha nobody else in the NHL had, a 6-9 monster of a d-man. Now the Sens have something a lot of teams don't have a 6-8 monster of a goalie who is young.

So for me if the Sens trade one guy and this should be at the draft, it should be Anderson and only because of his age and that he will fetch more in return.
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0 #115 my2sens 2013-02-26 14:03
@ Hax

That's just it. I'm sure ever GM and coach would love each player to be netting goals - but the truth is, there is a role for each player.

Lovin' the Viking look - that would be an awesome team photo if they all went a-la-Alfie!
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0 #116 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 14:05
Quoting Hax:
Quoting my2sens:
Can we stop beating down on Smith? Without him, guaranteed, we would not be in the same position we are in.

He recently cut his hair, give him time to adjust to his lighter frame.


Agreed. Some douchebag on twitter was counting the periods and minutes since his last goal. He clearly has no clue about why the Sens are winning lately. (Not that I wouldn't love to see Smitty pot one soon.)


I honestly find it very odd that we keep defending Smith's inability to score

He plays 3rd line. He has to score to keep a job

We are winning not because of Smith, but because of timely scoring and our goaltending

Without Bishop last night, Smith could have been a -4

Come one, please tell me someone ele agrees with me that a 3rd line Centre has to produce at least 10-15 goals in 82 games to be considered a good 3LC
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0 #117 T.o Sens fan 2013-02-26 14:07
cHIRp what are you hearing as rumors ?
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0 #118 Tcharger 2013-02-26 14:08
Quoting T.o Sens fan:
cHIRp what are you hearing as rumors ?



Seriously...tha t tease has me uber refreshing...le ts go chirp!!! The ads are working

haha
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+1 #119 SensChirp 2013-02-26 14:08
Sorry to interrupt. New post is up!
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0 #120 Alcatraz 2013-02-26 14:08
Employing a man who is an adequate shutdown Centre (by no means is he great) to play one role, and cant offer anything else (doesn't score, doesn't fight anymore) is stupid

I like Smith, I think he could be a great 3LC, but he needs to start producing or else in this highly competitive league someone will come along and easily replace him

Checking Centres and defensive forwards who play bottom 6 are easy to come by and are dime a dozen. Those who can do it and contribute offensively are what seperates themselves

Our best 3rd line centre of all time?

Fisher
Cullen
Kelly
White

they all contributed, Smith is not. He has to or else he will be gone
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0 #121 Tookie 2013-02-26 14:54
Quoting my2sens:
Can we stop beating down on Smith? Without him, guaranteed, we would not be in the same position we are in.

He recently cut his hair, give him time to adjust to his lighter frame.


I dont buy that one bit, sure he plays them tough but the chances are still getting through and proof that he is not shutting them down is that our goalies are always the reason we are winning, meaning they are standing on their heads, meaning the opposing top line isnt being shut down by Smith.

Anyone can shadow opposing players, whats makes a great 3C is if he pitches in offensively and he has in the past, which is why people are crucial of him, he needs to score soon or will become replaceable.
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