The Ottawa Senators got a glimpse of just how difficult things are going to be without Erik Karlsson and Jason Spezza in the line up on Saturday night.
While the Sens had their chances, they could not get much of anything going against Ben Scrivens and the Toronto Maple Leafs. They'll be looking for a better result today when they play a rare Monday afternoon game against Ilya Kovalchuk and the New Jersey Devils.
Because it`s an afternoon game, there will be no morning skate for the Senators. Sens Head Coach Paul MacLean will meet with the media at 10:30 AM this morning to confirm any line up changes.
What we do know is Craig Anderson will have the afternoon off as Ben Bishop makes his third start in the Ottawa goal. His last outing was a solid one on home ice against the Jets but he still ended up on the wrong end of a 1-0 decision.
Bishop is still looking for his first win of the season.
Both Sergei Gonchar and Daniel Alfredsson missed practice yesterday but are expected to be in the line up against the Devils. Milan Michalek is not expected to play and forward Peter Regin is available but will be a game day decision. Will pass along the line up notes once we get word from Paul MacLean later this morning.
The New Jersey Devils should give the Senators all they can handle this afternoon. Before an ugly 5-1 loss to the Islanders, the Devils had won 6 of 7 games and find themselves just a point back of the conference leading Pittsburgh Penguins.
They'll have a familiar face in the line up this afternoon as Bobby Butler is expected to play his former team for the first time.
Puck drop is scheduled for just after 1:00 PM with the game available on Sportsnet and on the radio at Team 1200.
Thanks to all the readers for keeping the conversation going in my absence!
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I hope you've enjoyed your weekend, and keep doing what you enjoy.
Cheers.
I think Ottawa need Peter Regin in the line-up.
PS - LOVE the new SensChirp logo/banner. Very subtle and very classy!
well yeah that is for sure and zipzaprap will maybe say for the first time the same with Michalek... lol
Call the KHL, bring back Filatov...
That's an interesting idea. Are the SENS allowed to call back Filatov from the KHL? This might be an interesting scenario for Filatov to take advantage of.
I am not sure the Sens will explore that route. He was very unceremoniously bounced from the team last time. Not sure they are willing to go back to him... But, I'd like to see it
The one thing the sens don't want at the moment is a player who won't buy into MacLean's system.
I think I would rather see him than some of the recent call ups.
Alfie is off to a slow start so far. Turris has been having a hard time since Spezza went down (understandably so). Michalek needs to start skating and go hard to the net. Regin has the talent to produce offensively but he's just so soft on the puck. Greening has been our most useless player this season after a great year last year. Smith has done very little in the last calendar year.
These guys have to step up to take some pressure off the rooks! Neil, O'Brien and Condra have been our most consistent forwards this season and are doing all they can to help the team win.
Here is the link
http://senators.nhl.com/club/roster.htm?type=prospect
Zibby out?? Intresting decision by Mac.
What's the harm in having a "go" with Filatov? He wanted top 6 minutes, and he's supposed to be offensively talented, and if anyone can get the most out of any player, it's "The 'Stache."
All I asked was, "Are the SENS allowed to call back Filatov in the KHL?"
It's an interesting idea. Filatov is still in the SENS payroll, and its an indication they haven't given up on him.
Z-Bad out for Greening. Interesting that Grant and Dziurzynski stay in the line-up. In my opinion both played well in the limited amount of time they had against the Laffs. Both are big bodies that can skate and I think can help.
Did not see Regin's name mentioned so I guess he is still out?
I think that the team that filatov is in with the KHL has to buyout his contract so he can go to the NHL in the middle of a season but i could be wrong
Its a gametime decision my friend!!
Well, he could be disruptive in the dressing room (you know the way he was before).
He could not have the respect or trust of the coach (you know the way he was before).
He could refuse to buy into the system MacLean is preaching (you know the way he was before).
The way Ottawa is going to win games is through hard work and playing together as a team, sticking to the system that is being taught.
Those are not things high on Filatov's skill set list.
I see more benefit in having him with the club from the start and Murray chose to go with an injury prone Regin and Latendresse, that tells you all you need to know.
Can't the SENS re-imburse the KHL team if that was the case? (I'm assuming that's the case if hypothetically Filatov stays with the club)
No Regin today. More likely he draws in tomorrow.
Yeah that might be the case but i think that the khl team has to let filatov go or just let his contract standby
Well if he feels like not playing its better than if he plays still injured and plays like crap and has a chance to get injured even more
I also don't get weircoch for Benoit. I've really liked benoits play compared to weir.
I'd be down for a rebound back from the KHL by Filatov. Why not? Are grant and diz that much better choices?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Greening pots a dirty goal today driving the net.
Hoping they give DaCosta more ice time today. Outside of Turris, he's looked like our most dangerous option offensively.
Still going to be hard pressed for the W
Yeah! For real bud. Especially if you were in Niagara Falls. Would do almost anything to go back there.
What are the injury updates on Stone and Hoffman?
The KHL regular season has concluded and the playoffs begin on the 20th.
As well i have heard Stone may be a few weeks away and Hoffman done for the year.
With that in mind, I would have kept Benoit in and sat Lundin. Benoit seems to get shafted a lot, yet he plays well.
Zibanedjad deserves to sit. He's done nothing to impress since his 2 first game. Granted, its hard when there is no consistency with the lines, but the level of skating and effort is not up to par IMO. I think more time in Bingo would help.
about time if you ask me. Zibby looks very UNready for NHL. He should have followed Alfie and Silfver and decided to stay in Sweden until he can actually DOMINATE in that league, and then make the move
Even Silfverberg looks like he could use more time in the AHL
these injuries suck! I don't want to ruin any prospects by throwing them in the deep end and saying "sink or swim"
The path Zibby has taken so far is a perilous one, I hope BM knows what he's doing
Stone is still a couple weeks away at least due to a broken finger. Have not heard a time frame for Hoffman's collarbone injury.
Watch out what you say man. Might anger a lot of people if you suggest otherwise. -_-
SOOOoooooo, how was the Sundowner???
;)
This is becoming more of a joke then anything else ..
No need too make a trade or rush talented youngsters just remember hard work and sell fans on believe
So are we tanking ..Not losing on purpose cause NHL players dont do that
But are we icing less talented players on purpose?? ..Are we putting 4th liners and grinders in are top 6 on purpose??
Where is this stock cupboard Murray has been selling us ...Why do we have 4 1st rd picks dominating there minor and other leagues and not in AHL learning the system from Richardson ..
So I suggest keep doing what we are doing stock the line up with grinders and 4th line guys sell the fan base on "Believe" ..
And get that TOP 3 pick Jones Lindholm Monahan
What could you get for swapping with the second or third spot.
IE. you choose Jones, we'll take Mac or Drouin but you throw in a roster player or second pick etc.
I guess you could always, take Jones and then deal one of your other D for offensive help.
On that note, apparently Washington is willing to move Forsberg, Murray should swoop in if he can pull together the right pieces...
Never heard of it.......
Grant-Turris-Silfverberg
Dziurzynski-Smith-Neil
Daugavins-O’Brien-Condra
You'll never know who are the ones seeking for a good pick at the draft or who thinks we actually stand a chance in making the playoffs. As much as the roster scares me half to death, I still obviously want our team to win. With that said, it all depends on what our needs are and where we stand in the standings. No to Jones. It'll be like having Subban on our team. Sens can only have 1 star defenseman and cannot have someone in Karlsson's shadow, or vice versa. Plus Ceci will be on his way in the future and we have Cowen.
Hopefully Greening can help provide space for Da Costa and Alfie to work but MAANNNN thats an ugly looking top 6.....
Line up really is a mess without Spezza and Milan... Holy.
Am I the only one who actually hopes Regin comes back and gets into form? Dude has all the potential, but he's just so unlucky. And I actually really like the guy cuz he has shown flashes (like Da Costa).
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=416279
Not every non-playoff team will have a chance. It will remain as it was last year, move up a max of 5 spots.
Hope Bishop plays well this afternoon.
I was thinking about this. I actually prefer Jones but can't disagree that MacKinnon or Drouin fit more of a need.
Even though you're getting a potentially great player with either of those two, Jones added to Karlsson, Methot and Cowen means a top 4 that would be the envy of every other team in the league. Not sure how you pass that up.
Turris is having a tough time facing the top checking lines on the other teams. It obvious, he is not quite ready for that.
As for O'Reilly.. heard the Avs are asking a lot.. and a lot of teams interested. What would the Sens have to give up to get him?
If you include DaCosta -- what else?
The 'odds' to draft first overall remain the same... what is changed is that if you win the draft lottery you move to first overall. There is no more restriction of moving up only 5 spots. That's as per Bob MacKenzie.
cuts out sometimes... but best
if screen goes black, F5 and try again...
Just found this
http://liveonpc.tv/nhl/play.html
Pretty brutal team effort in front of him on that goal too!
God help us...
is it sben or essbin?
http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/
Michalek & Phillips were 1st rounders in their day, no?
Only then we didn't have a good goalie. Also we know that next year we will have 6 of our regulars back in. 2 of those regulars in the best 25 of the whole NHL
No kidding. There is little more annoying than these draft pick or the "let's trade the entire team" talks.
Keep believing. Int the worst case scenario, we'll get a great pick in June and we already know we'll have a great team coming training camp.
Shots are 16-8 for the Devils. All things considered, Bishop put the early goal behind him.
Well I'm sorry cooleen but I think that the announcers should know the pronounciation of the players on every team not just the team they announce regularly. Also its these guys jobs to know the names and if they don't they are not doing their job properly.
Easy there big fella. No harm meant.
btw: It's Cohlen, not Cooleen.
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
Scouts are saying Droiun is the most dynamic player in the draft, comparable to St. Louis! He is slightly undersized which has him at number 3, but look at his points. He also got 4 points in 7 wj games playing 4th line, the kids the real deal. He is only 180 lbs, so would need to bulk up a bit before playing next year. But I think it's safe to say he would look nice on spezzas wing.. It was meant to be, the MOONS HABE ALIGNED!
stupid ad wont go away every time I press the x it wont go away
Silf would get tons of goals if he start shooting like that every game. wow
Let's hope he has a heart, unlike Semin.
Fuckin hell you are smoking some strong shit? No. God even when he's injured he's awful. He had his chance. Made a comeback, got injured. Enough with this short term garbage.
Puempel, Noesen, Stone and a great pick from this year will the commence the rapage. And God willing Corey Perry agrees to sign here.
I think he does. But I also think all the hate Semin gets by all the Canadian/Americ an pundits are unwarranted. He's a good player who does work hard.
Personally, I think we've seen the last of Guillaume Latendresse in the National Hockey League.
Talent no doubt, but no team will ever win in the playoffs with a guy like Semin. He's a "me" player in my eyes and in it for the money.
Pmac have to find a way to get his team to relax.
Ya it's not even that the team is playing BAD, they just can't score. The Devils haven't been good. We just have no finish, and the team looks like they don't have much confidence.
Yes exactly... We play the right way but man we lack the offensive talent to finish.
Ugh, please prove me wrong guys and blow up for 4+ goals this period!
I'm enjoying our effort though. If we get knocked out of the playoffs, that's ok too. We'll be much better next year
I would rather give the chance to Filatov again.
At this point, what do we have to lose?
Let not bring up filatov. I don't want to get into this argument again.
If not Lats, I would let Stone, Hoffman, Grant, DD or anybody else in Bingo have a shot this season before Filatov.
i guess my poin is why does the experiment for Lats, who we can all agree is god awful, keep getting chances, whereas Filatov was written off so quickly... he has been playin well int he KHL and looked good in the Spengler Cup, a hell of a lot better than Lats, he is Cheechoo 2.0!
and people still bitch about him defensively
Zach Smith has a chance in the 1st period SH and the puck hits Kovalchuk.
Then the 2nd period... post by Silfverberg.. who is playing very well today.. and the 3 on one when Alfie doesn't even get a shot off?
They are playing a good game... they just can't put the puck in the net.
Bishop has been very good. Other teams ask a lot for trades.. I say demand a 1st round pick for Bishop.. His last 2 games he has been very good. If he gets in regularly and continues to play like he has been... his price has gone up.
He is playing the #1 centre position. Gets the top checkers of the other team. He can't handle that yet..
i guess my poin is why does the experiment for Lats, who we can all agree is god awful, keep getting chances, whereas Filatov was written off so quickly... he has been playin well int he KHL and looked good in the Spengler Cup, a hell of a lot better than Lats, he is Cheechoo 2.0!
because Filatov did nothing with his work ethic and attitude to show that he deserved his chance.
The only two players that I can recall macLean chewing out in practice so bad that it got reported on by the press were Butler and Filatov. Neither of whom are with the NHL team now.
Lats may not be good enbough for the organisation but he must be working in practioce.
As for your comment about Lats STILL getting chances, it's not like we keep going back to him - Filatov has played more games for the organisation than he has - plus he had a full training camp to impress - and he obviously didn't.
Give dreiger or Brassard a chance or sign a free agent or college free agent.
R.I.P. Careers of Latendresse & Pascal Leclaire -_-
They're gonna get one soon
Cheechoo worked very hard too... how did that work out?
Lats = Cheechoo, get rid of him!
Save of the year lol
And if you look at the standings right now, even with all of our injuries this season, and with everything going against us right now, we're still in a playoff position. So before you "superfans" call it quits on the season, realize that the team hasn't.
Lats, yeah regin, depends and daug????
I'm am not suggesting we give him a contract extension, but a player as arty farty, airy fairy as Filatov is unlikely to succeed in a MacLean coached system unless he shows a more appetite for being something other than a fancy dan.
Give that spot to a better free agent or somebody down in Bingo who doesn't need a dictionary to know what the phrase work hard means.
I already told you I'm all up for an elite pick. Others need to realize that just because the team hasn't quit doesn't mean they're gonna win. We can have the never say die attitude and as long as half the team in injured and we're not picking up the wins, we'll be at the bottom regardless of wanting or not wanting to tank.
reign on a two way id take. him taking a roster spot full time isn't ethical. someone like zbad or da costa are more worthy, for that secondary scoring role. calling up regin if his play is needed would e wiser. daug well honestly his hard work speaks but this team is working on filling the net so unless his could to slide next to spezza and/or turris I don't see much point on keeping him around.
Listen hot shot, were all sens fans here and we all want this team to succeed. There's nothing wrong with some fans thinking it's best to draft high and sell assets in a shortened season where our top 2 players are gone, it makes sense long term. There are plenty of teams who finish 16-23 every year and they are always there because they can't grab elite talent in the draft.
A combo of Bishop/Lehner would be one hell of a problem to have for years....What I would LOVE to see, a 7th/8th ranked team that has gone on a strong run lose their goalie at the end of the season and fire us a 1st + for Anderson.(if anything...I still am not sure I would want to move any of the 3 atm).
This game is 1000% better than the horrid Leafs game. Still in that game they only lost by 2 garbage, fluky goals and an empty netter. Of course if you read TSN, the Leafs were amazing in that one.
And those who actually think making the playoffs is a possibility given the unfortunate set of circumstances.
I tend to avoid this place during the games...its like a bi-polar person coming down off a week long meth binge.
Would be nice if we can get something for Gonchar but I would not give up on Anderson. I want to see Lenher putting pressure on Andy next season. Should one of our goaltender goes down, we are still in good shape.
And I'm also not claiming this team is going to make the playoffs, but what is the point of writing it off this early in the season? The young kids who are brought up to replace the injured players are going to progress a lot more playing with a hard working winning attitude rather than in a negative "we don't stand a chance in hell" attitude that way to many fans have in here.
Anything can happen! Just enjoy it as it goes!
Listen here hot shot...hahaha, thanks. We are 16 games in and still in a playoff spot, and fans like you are in here talking about trading everyone, tanking and calling it quits. Sorry, but that's just sad this early in the season.
I know, what the hell happened there???
And I'm also not claiming this team is going to make the playoffs, but what is the point of writing it off this early in the season? The young kids who are brought up to replace the injured players are going to progress a lot more playing with a hard working winning attitude rather than in a negative "we don't stand a chance in hell" attitude that way to many fans have in here.
Think you need to re-read the posts again. No one suggested to tank. That crap is old. All I stated was that we don't even need to shit the bed to get a good draft pick. Why you ask? Because with half the team being gone, we can put all the effort in the world and at the end of the day if it's not enough, then what more do you want?
This may be a big deal later, but, I'm pretty sure Neil just ripped down the New Jersey Devils sign on his way to the dressing room. #NHL
Alfie...Turris. ..Silf?!?! I would assume
Kovalchuk....Henrique...Elias maybe?
Neil has every right to be pissed. He was only holding Clarkson and smiling at him while Clarkson was lipping off and by my lip reading skills said along the lines of, "you wanna go right now, I do".
No reason to give Neil a penalty there. (before the stick smashing)
Man Bishop must be awesome.
+10
Great effort from Bishop after the early goal.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO
We should think twice before rushing to deal Big Ben for just a 2nd round pick.
But thank god we got 2 pts!!!
Dipietro time lol
None
Gotta trade one of them before the season is done
I believe if Bishop plays 7 games then he's only an RFA.
IT WAS ME THAT GOT IT DONE!
I am a FRREAKING GENIUS!
WE WILL NOT LOSE AGAIN THIS WEEK, BOOK IT!
TOOKIE100PERCENT OUT!
I think he has officially gone insane
If he can get into spaces clean and let that shot off... not too many goalies can stop him.
Great team win... I'm sure builds confidence.
Like Dziurynski's (sp?) game today.. and Grybas. Didn't notice Grant much at all.
Don't know what has happened to Greening's game. Is it the sophomore slump? He plays good with Spezza.. but can't see to work with the 3rd or 4th line? I don't think they give up on him yet.. they will let him work it out.
Boy they can beat Brodeur but not freakin' Scrivens?
Did I criticize Silf? YES!
Did he respond to my criticism? YES!
Did we win? YES!
Am I a genius? YES!
Step aside doubters, WE WILL AGAIN!
TOOKIE100PERCENT OUT!