Replacing Erik Karlsson is impossible but unless the Sens can find help via trade (Murray says he's made calls) or free agency (see below), this becomes a good opportunity for some of the young guys to get some serious playing time.
Patrick Wiercioch is now an every night player as is Andre Benoit.
It will be interesting to see how Paul MacLean distributes the minutes in Karlsson’s absence.
- Earlier today, the National Hockey League ruled that there would be no supplemental discipline handed out to Matt Cooke as a result of last night’s incident. I guess I’ll just say it’s the decision I expected. Murray felt that Cooke's history should be considered when making the decision but the league obviously disagreed.
- Murray also provided an update on Milan Michalek who had what the team called a "twisted knee" that should only keep him out for a couple games. Peter Regin could return as early as next week.
- Lost in all the talk about Karlsson’s injury is an interesting comment by TSN’s Bob McKenzie last night. During the quiz portion of the show, McKenzie suggested that Ottawa was the most likely suitor for Avs hold out Ryan O’Reilly. Ottawa has a need at centre and the pieces to get a deal done. I do wonder if McKenzie would give the same answer with Karlsson out though.
- I’m not overly happy to be typing this but contacts have suggested to me that the Senators will at least explore the idea of bringing back Chris Campoli. Really not a road I can picture the Senators going down but I figured I would pass that bit of info along.
Murray says he won't trade any high end prospects for short term help. #Sens
I'm done feeling upset about this. I love Karlsson, and watching hockey definitely won't feel the same without him, but it's time to look ahead.
This is a huge opportunity for other guys to step up, and it will be very interesting to see how Murray handles this situation over the next few weeks.
We all know that Bryan was trying to make some moves to make this team better now, but now with the loss of Spezza and Karlsson for the season, does that plan change?
I'm happy to hear the Murray has shot down any suggestion of trading Anderson. I don't want to see Andy go anywhere, but part of me thinks that the Sens might receive and offer for their star goaltender that they can't refuse.
But he didnt say he wouldnt make a 3-4 player for 1 deal if the player is Perry...That is not short term.
True.
Assuming Perry signs an extension with us?
If a trade can be made that helps us next year, and the year after that and the year after that etc etc then let's look at it.
Also, I am more happy than anything that Karlsson will be able to return to 100%. I think that IF (and most likely) we struggle, Gonchar and/or Michalek will get traded at the deadline...
I still believe we can be competitive every night, btu our game will have to be MUCH more dirty and ugly.
Yes that would be the key to trading for him, I dont see why he wouldnt sign longterm with the team we got, he's got a good chance of making it back to the Cup in a few years.
Agreed. I think that is exactly the kind of deal he should be looking for. The Sens are very deep in nhl-ready players and role players, but they are still lacking the sure-fire high-end prospect, and beyond Spezza, they have no top three players. A package deal, although hard to put together, may be the best way to get someone like Perry, or failing that, a number 1 pick from one of the bottom feeder teams. Sadly, the Sens may end up being one of those teams finishing near the bottom...so they may have their own chance to grab one of their own high-end prospect...
I don't know... He's a UFA this summer. Yes Ottawa should be an appealing team to play for, but he's going to have the choice of pretty much 30 teams come July. He may want to explore what all is out there.
That said, I would trade for O'reilly in a heartbeat though if the price was fair. Teams with depth down the middle are teams that win.
I would trade Greening, DaCosta and a 2nd for him. From what I read, a pick isnt really what the Avs want. Not sure if thats quite enough, but they get two players who can play in the NHL and a 2nd (which is what O'Reilly was).
See how we adjust to life without Karlsson and have a better idea of just where we might be picking come draft day.
There is an obvious distinction between how we would feel and how attractive a trade partner we would be if we are talking about a 3-7 pick as opposed to a 10-15 pick.
Any deal for Perry wouldnt happen unless an extension is signed first. #guaranteed
Well you dont let him go to UFA, trade for him and re-sign longterm. He's Canadian and has said in the past that he would love to play for a Canadian team if the chance ever came.
I nkow its hard to do but Murray has deep roots with the Ducks and that might push Perry to come to Ottawa and be on a line with a true #1 Centre.
Now's the time to be sellers. If a team can go far into the playoffs, Michalek and Gonchar can be used as bait to be moved. Hopefully, Michalek can fetch us a 1st rounder. Hell, they gave us one for Fisher.
Everyone who wants a 22 year old to be your starter next year over a vet who has been nothing but amazing since he arrived here is crazy. YES - I think Lehner will be great, but there is no rush, he can be a backup for a year or two, logging 25-30 games a season and learn how to become a pro from a guy like Anderson.
I wouldnt trade Michalek for a 1st - I would trade him for another player. The team needs top 6 guys - a first rounder will be lucky to be a top 6 in 3-4 years (unless its a lotto pic, which it wont be).
This should be our main concern right now.
Having him come back and not be the same player will be a huge loss, not only for Sens fans, but for hockey fans in general.
I've said this earlier if the plan is to go with Lehner next year as the #1 then trade Anderson now while his stock is high. If the plan is Anderson to mentor Lehner then you keep him and trade Bishop.
You sir, are wrong.
On any given night who is or isn't in the line-up doesn't make me support the team are more or any less.
I'm not an Ottawa fan to watch the draft, I'm an Ottawa fan because I want to watch them play hockey - regardless on which 20 players are dressed.
What an absolutely ridiculous comment, sure I don't really expect us to compete very often anymore, but I will still be watching the games, and cheering for anyone with the jersey on.
Oh we all want our team to win. Who the fuck doesn't want their team and especially the longest serving captain to hoist the Cup high above his fuckin head? But you have to face reality that nothing good can come out of this situation that we are in. It wasn't Greening and Benoit who got injured dude.
We get what your saying but its gonna be some ugly hockey and nobody wants to go back to the 2008 shit show.
Tookie is the biggest douche here outside of ZipZap. All he ever does is attack people's comments or complain about the sens. Never anything even close to positive.
That said, he is correct about the no penalty call on high stick if its on a follow through of a shot. Perfect example is Hossa nearly taking out Berrards eye way back in the day. People all over the league said it was careless but it didn't warrant a penalty or suspension.
Same goes for cookes play. He is the epitamy of a dirty player and that was a very dirty play. However it does not warrant a suspension
In fact let's just run a computer simulation on NHL 13 and agree to meet on Elgin Street pretend it's 2019 and be happy we won the cup.
So what if it's ugly hockey, it's still your team playing. If all people are interested in being is a fair weather fan I am sure the LA Kings will be glad to have you for the next three months when you can pick a new team to "support".
Agreed 100% that Anderson is a KEEPER !!
My comment is obviously directed at TOOKIE THE TRADER !!
Did you read up above, that Murray said he is not thinking of trading Anderson ??
Were're really gonna find out just how good Wiercioch is now, Loving that 100+ foot pass already! And Gonch has got to compensate for EKs shots and get the puck to the net more. I think Benoit has proven he's not a liability, Lundins alright, Methots solid, Big Rigs chipping in more, Borocop is a future full timer. This loss is catastrophic, but we do have depth and of course One freakin amazing goaltender.
If we see Lebda here we'll have to sign him to an NHL contract. He's already got 2 goals in 4 games with Bingo
The point is, it doesnt have to be ugly (for long anyways) Sell vets for picks, package assets for Perry and draft in the top 3 for impact player.
Do that and we are right back in the payoffs next year and improve for many years down the road.
Otherwise keep our aging Vets and lose them for nothing and keep plugging holes with players not meant for top 6 duty and waste Spezza & KK65 prized talents with a bunch of 3rd liners...
I agree that we should use the circumstances we have been given to drive the team forward - we may disagree on exactly which players should be moved on but so what.
I am still of the mind that we are rebuilding anyway and to that end if we can upgrade Michalek we should do so (for a better winger) and move Gonchar if he agrees to it. If we need to trade anway lower ranking roster players like Greening or Smith so be it.
What I don't agree with is that the rest of this season is pointless and nobody cares about it.
We spent the best part of 4 months bitching as we didn't have any hockey to watch and now we do some people are wishing the season done after 14/15 games just because 1 or 2 players aren't in the line up and boo hoo hoo we won't win.
Anyone hear if a 100% recovery is expected? I guess they wouldn't say one way or another even if they knew.
I wonder what the D pairings will be?
Gonchar - Methot
Wiercioch - Benoit
Phillips - Lundine
If you dress 22 guys, than ya, it is like crazy Clouston....ano ther too many men penalty - geez.
couldn't resist. sorry.
Exactly Tookie. What he said is obvious and means nothing. He in no way suggested he wouldn't flip the entire roster over on it's head though if it make long term sense.
Or would that be too much of a slap in the face to Spezza?
Spezza is next... Then Karlsson in 5-6 years.
Sure he would....but why the hell would he now not be due to the injury?
I am in a 1,000th place tie for the biggest Anderson fan on Earth but I echoed your statement earlier. Now that we have an opportunity to finish in the basement this year, because we've been kicked in the f**king nuts by the "injury fairy", then the timing makes perfect sense if a great return presents itself.
- his value will never be higher
- Lehner breathing down his neck
- Not in the plans long term if the org believes in Lehner like they tell us
- Added bonus, moving a guy who will single handedly win 40% more points for us hurting our chances for a PREMIER pick this year
I WANT O'Reilly here! I'm sure BMs going in hard here. I love Zack Smith but if it took a package involving Smitty to get O'Reilly I'd do it, got to give to get. Prefer Zack stays though. Ryan O has a pretty high ceiling, the type of hard nosed canadian player that plays with a purpose every shift! I def don't want to lose out on these guys to the Laffs and then deal with playing against them. Possibilites are endless for deals from now to next season with $ to spend and players envisioning themselves playing with the best offensive defenseman arguably since... (Insert any HOFer or future HOF Defenseman here) _________
I agree with this...The King Karl injury added on top of other significant injuries really sucks. I was so distraught last night. I was talking with some buddies about it and I remember thinking 'jeez, I really shouldn't be THIS upset about a hockey player I don't even personally know.' This was a big old punch in the nuts for Sens fans, but we must charge on. I won't expect an imminent trades (for or of players). I won't expect them to collapse. I won't expect us to start losing every game. I won't be cheering for us to lose to 'get a better draft pick.' I will only cheer for us to improve and enjoy watching the future play.
Let's Go Sens!
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Teemu Selanne on Erik Karlsson: "I want to wish Erik the best. It's a tough injury because it's bad luck. He can come back from this...For me, it was about six months. I felt soon after that I could play my normal game again." Thanks to @AnaheimDucks for facilitating this.
Campoli just left for Europe, so he wont be avail until his season ends anyways
Thank God I don't want to see him back in a Sens uni, been there bombed that.
Without additions on D we have plenty of bodies to tide us to the end of the year.
Similar to before we bring up Borocop and guys take turns being that 7th guy, probably Boro/Lundin from the current look of it.
Is bringing in ANYONE going to make a difference? Why even try to improve X% and wind up 2 spots higher in the standings. Think of the nice improvements we already have queued up for next season on D alone: +Cowen +Karlsson +Ceci possibly!
We have seen the Sens rally before in the face of injuries...befo re we had a Norris trophy on the blueline. No question we are in tough and we very well may finish as a lottery team...but you can not give up with more than 2/3 of the season left. Now is the time to make deals that strengthen us now and in the future.
There's no point trying to replace EK, so don't, let the rooks play...but use some assets to go out and upgrade the offense...
You don't tank a season when there is some adversity. Clubs that do that to insure a top 3 draft pick are pathetic and do so bcause they have no faith in their drafting abilities.
So what if we end up out of the playoffs...the young players on our team are going to be that much better moving forward after playing through something like this.
It's not a natural season. (which mentally starts at the end of summer)
The cup winner will probably be some undeserving joke of a team.
See Ya in 2013-14
When the NHL gets back to normal.
1- we could not score withoug Spezz and with the most dynamic D-man in EK in our lineup
2- without EK our top scorer, our goal scoring potential has just deminished
3- Even with the best goalie in the NHL right now can we expect to win by scoring 2 or less goals a game?
Reality is that EK cannot be replaced.
Losing 3 top noth NHL players to any team will essentially take most teams out of the playoffs
BM and PM, we have to change directions, trade some veterans that can help us next year ie a winger for Spezz,
bring up some tough mean SOB's so even if we lost we can pound our opponents into submission.
I am sick and tired of being the NHL's picked on weaklings!
lets go out and unintentially hurt our opponents on Saturday!
...obviously still a little bitter
http://www.forterietimes.ca/2013/02/12/maidens-making-strides-in-concussion-recovery
Buy-low-sell-hi gh may make sense in stocks and real estate but it is rarely the way with sports fanchises.
Another side to it: Ottawa has a hard enough time attracting free agents to the city and keeping elite talent here. One thing Murray has to sell is loyalty. And you don't demonstrate that by chucking the best-performing goalie in the league in a trade to god knows where.
Glad you said your goodbyes till 2013-14
I wasn't implying he wouldn't be... just that I was thinking about it before the injury. After the injury I was busy thinking about how much I hate Cooke.
But I see your point from the way it was written.
Konopka and Carkner were easily replaceable and its noticeable this year
In all honesty what did you want the sens to do yesterday? The period was over. Go into the locker room, bitch and moan and then come back and goon it up in a 2-2 game, off a freak accident play (carless/malici ous or not)
it was a freak play in that it never happens
Our team is tough enough and not once this year have I felt that we have been pushed around
lol... get real
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F3wtOHm7wz4/URxLrPUNOeI/AAAAAAAAAMo/G4sPrtgH53w/s547/CookeHitsKarlsson.gif
What did sens fans ever do to the hockey Gods?
1- Star goalie injures himself for a month cokoing fucking chicken
2- Unreal ride to the playoffs and have our Captain get concussed for 2 of 7 games
3- NHL fan loses half a year
4- Lose 2nd best dman in offseason to season ending injury
5- Lose star centremen to a herniated disc (non typical hockey injury)
6- Lose best player in world to freak injury (see #1)
Well, I'm not saying he steps in and fills EK's shoes on the top pairing. More along the lines of a PP specialist... see what he can do. It wouldn't cost anything.
I honestly don't know a lot about him though, other than what I read when those reports came out... an undersized offensive defenseman who has some familiarity with Gonchar.
I've recieved a penalty more than once for the follow through on a slap shot. futhermore, wasnt Hossa penalized when he poked out Bryan Berards eye?
C'mon boys, show the Leafs what you are all about. Never go down without a fight attitude.
Go SENS Go
we seem to be always in a reactionary state.
An example is a number of years ago we are going into the playoffs, leafs are out and we play theme the last game of the year.
They come out pummeling us, and we lose Alfie and Fisher for the playoffs.
Enough, lets be the initiators now
I really don't get where your coming from
We had carkner last year probably the best fighter in the league
He dummied Brian Boyle but only as a "reactionary play"
I don't get what you mean by being initiators
Oh you mean like being broad street bullies, or being the leafs? I guess that's a legit point, because injuries don't affect those teams either (see Reimer, see Lupul, see frattin, see Hartnell)
Without Cowen Spezza and Karlsson we must re-evaluate our position and our chances.
You can be optimistic all you want but if you take out 3 top players for he year ie Kane, Keith and Stallberg or off of Chicago, and expect them to win the cup.
we have been dealt this hand, and we now have to change our course.
No doubt when they all come back, if we can add a top winger for Spezz, we will be more just a playoff hopeful next year.
But for this year lets go out and bust some freakin balls! Especially the delicate freakin penguins and laffs
Where the fuk is Peluso when we need him!
PELUSO we are in desperate need of your Rants.
Please tell me you are doing some COOKEing!!!
Fuk the laffs they are losers, but that one year they effectively took us out of the playoffs the last game of the year by taking out Alfe and Fisher!
And try to tell me you did not love it when Carkner pummelled Boyle... I get a excited by that.
yes lets go out and start pounding our opponents, our year is effectively over, we could not score before, and the chances of us winning enough 1-0 games are slim... IMO
Methot Green
Boro Gonchar
Philips PW/Benoit
Next year
Methot Karlsson
Cowen Green
Philips Ceci/Patty/Boro cop/Benoit etc
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Tookie's M.O.
He selectively ignores valid counter-argueme nts
and when he makes a mistake in a post or
paints himself into a corner he'll explain that you actually
misunderstood what he meant.
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Tookie: It's not going to rain today.
(starts raining)
Tookie: I meant in Japan
(quick Internet search shows it's raining in Japan)
Tookie: Yeah but it's tomorrow already in Japan
(more Internet searching shows it's been raining in Japan for four days)
Tookie: I meant the other Japan
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Have to say i completely, unequivolcally, absolutely disagree with you.
I think Karlsson is the best d-man, arguably one of THEE best players in the league, but to say i'd rather skip this whole season and go right to the draft, means i have no confidence in the rest of the players that will make up the 20 man roster on any given night.
And i haven't even said anything about the best goalie in the league at the moment. This team plays well, they give it their all, they quite possibly won't make the playoffs, but that's not a guarantee and with the goaltending we're getting ANYTHING is possible.
GO SENS GO
I was worried about the Leafs taking him out.. but when I should have realized the odds were the Pens would do it.
Craig Adams on Alfie -- shoulder injury.
Kris Letang late hit from behind on Spezza -- shoulder separation.
Something happened in the Pitts game in Ottawa when Spezza's back went from kinda bad to even worse.
Now Karlsson.
It looked like a hockey play.. but it also looked careless to me.
Cooke said he was sorry and did not mean to do it... but he probably said the same thing when he destroyed Marc Savard's career. I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
Leopards don't change their spots.
Then to see Cooke laughing and joking on the bench in the 3rd really pissed me off further.
Then he turtles when Neil challenges him.. he's a fucking coward.
Are we still at the cap floor with Spezza and Karl on LTIR?
So many questions...
YEP !
Only about 1 in 50 of his posts is worth reading.
Don't understand why he gets to be "teacher's pet"
My personal opinion is this years gonna be tough as nails to make the playoffs with Spezza & Karlsson out for the season, Only trades id wanna see is trading some of our prospects for other prospects that support our needs more. Let the kids play, It's a shame Stone is injured
If we make the playoff's i want it to be done with our team not a bunch of rentals that jeopardize our teams future
P.S What is up with Jared Cowen? is he out for the season also?
The Pens took away the Sens playoff hopes maybe payback is to do damage to ensure their playoff run is short.
The games in the next week look at a glance losses for the Sens.
Leafs -- they are playing very well (it hurts me to say that)
NJ - tops in the East
NYI - 2nd game back to back
Then Boston, Mtl & Rangers.
For the next week the Sens will be going with 2 top 6 forwards in Turris & Alfie.
Then you have 2 rookies playing centre as well as 2 rookies on D.
Then 3rd & 4th liners.
The Sens will be outskilled.
I see no great finish to this season.
Even if by some miracle they make the playoffs it would be 4 straight losses.
Is that better than a high pick.
Any team not making the playoffs gets a chance at the 1st overall. Seth Jones.
It's a tragedy that Anderson's great year is for naught with no playoffs.
Really? Mike Green, yeah, that's a worth while acquisition, he's a shell of his former self and even that was terrible defensively, no thank you
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/accepting-karlsson-injury-was-an-accident-simply-not-good-enough/article8668927/
and also why its not an acceptable terrible accident.
Sandy what your saying here is that you want our boys to stoop down so low as to intentionally hurt players and become target for bad reputations, you really want our good young guys getting bad reps. I dont know about you but thats very classless and the Sens through the years have been very classy Org, I doubt that Mac or Murr would stoop that low on a freak injury.
Cooke will answer when the Pens come to OTT, he will probably fight Neil at the start of the game so to get it out of the way.
LMAO the Globe and Mail, right on par with the Sun for Sport cred...
Cooke will answer when the Pens come to OTT, he will probably fight Neil at the start of the game so to get it out of the way.
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Cooke turtled and would not fight Neil last night. I expect him to do so again.
Hard hits should be the word of the day in that game... hard but legal, of course. And the odd fight.. it's not like Pitts doesn't have fighters..
Other teams payback, so the Sens shouldn't? The Sens have some guys who are hard to play against.. make sure that happens.
No thx the guy couldnt even play well with Ebs & Hall nor with Hemsky and Gagner...No thx he's a super shy player with no passion.
Not sure about Piaarvi either, but Hemsky would have been worth going after. Too late now, likely. He's playing too well..
The stupid mother$%^%$#& Prick should have been banned from the NHL after his hit on Savard. While weird I miss seeing Savvy make out with his stick
Lastly its a joke it even got to that point. Play should have been blown down but 4 imcompetent dumbass officials can't do their job properly. Yeah the games fast, blah blah. but these are paid, trained officials! PATHETIC!
I dont blame him for not fighting, the game was tied 2-2 and was still up for grabs, why would PITS trade off Cooke for Neil, that would be seriously stupid by PIT, which ended up scoring a minute into the 3rd, Cooke with an assist on the play.
Fighting is a strategy, and that clearly backfired on the Sens.
Murray announces a trade of a 6th rounder for ... Matt Cooke. Because hey, nobody's worth less than Kovalev.
Healthy scratch for the rest of the year.
Training camp, 2013-14. Ben Blood ends Matt Cooke's career on a Cooke-ian slew-foot drill.
Then, every Senator fan gets a free "SLAP SHOT COOKIE IN THE FACE/NECK AREA" for a day until he is vulnerable for the rest of his days.
Ahhhhh.
Now, back to reality.
unfortunately, for you tookie, an unnecessary injury to the star player on the team you supposedly support, is just a happen-stance - even though, the perpetrator is known for his history and it is very plausible that why did he have to hit him that particular way in the first place.
and if thats the norm, then why is that the norm? is it normal for the league to have reckless skate cuts to its star players? is the NHL going to go through career ending instances before it tells reckless players to hold their skates accountable?
30 seconds left in the period with the sens deep in their own zone, nothing was going to happen to the score. Cooke did not need to go in that hard on karlsson to get unbalanced and use EK's ankle as support instead.
and you also have an issue with Neil sticking up? maybe you are just as gutless as cooke.
we already saw the gong show with head shots and they didnt realize until cry-baby kid himself got whacked out and even then they couldnt really suspend the guy - so-called hockey play bohoo lol
now in this case its karlsson. sure you can give cooke all the benefit of the doubt even - although its hard with his history, but what is going to prevent this kind of incident?
and then the refs. how is the league holding them accountable? a very valid point is that due to the refs non-call yesterday, the result of the game changed. we saw what they did to the sens in mtl.
disappointing. this league is still way behind in comparison to other major sports.
Wish I knew what league you watch on daily basis man. Cookie and Neil are the same player same caliber same style minus the fact that neiler has never ended anyones career. How is Cooke vs Neil stupid for Pits.
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Fantastic news. There's no need.
Also good to see recovery time is only 3-4 months. That is excellent news. Sometimes these things can take up to a year.
Also happy to hear Murray dismiss any foolish talk about Craig Anderson being traded. This franchise has starved for a legit number one goaltender, and now that we finally have one, who happens to be the best in the entire league, people wanting him traded is absurd to me. We don't need anymore prospects anyways our cupboard is jacked full.
On another note, Murray said he'll give some guys in Bingo a look too. Anybody think Shane Prince will make his NHL debut at sometime this season?
Please ban him from posting. Until then I will check this site less often, if at all.
honestly, whining to get someone banned is almost as pathetic ans sens whining for leaf fans to stay away. Im not liking the direction the sens fanbase is heading. Dont get me wrong, tookie seems like a total tool lol, his hockey opinions are completely different than mine, but theres no whining in hockey, unless youre a sindey crosby fan that is
Six guys there so no need to bring someone up just yet.
Methot, Gonchar, Phillips, Lundin, Benoit and Wiercioch.
Yeesh
The altercation between Cooke & Neil was at the 17:54 and the 4th Pitts goal was scored at 11:42.. so the game was out of reach. There was no reason for Cooke not to man up and fight him. He is a bloody coward.
Also this is my conspiracy theory, i was kind of a dirty player when i played hockey too lol, and it clearly looks like he was going in for the slew foot and was caught off guard by karlssons lower body strength. there was no intent to injure karlsson, but if he had not went for the slew foor than there would not have been an injury
Whitney is no Karalsson but he would fit in perfictly and plug that hole I think.providing Murray can get him very cheeply like a 2nd rd.
I would make that deal providing Ottawa is still in the play off picture
What do you think ?
What about at forward? With Michalek injured last night there is an extra forward spot no?
Zbad-DaCosta-Alfie
Condra-Turris-Silfverberg
Greening-Smith-Turris
? - O'Brien-Daugavins
Or am I completely missing someone...Regin , michalek, spezza, latendresse out...zbad and dacosta called up...we started with 13 forwards...so we would be down to 11. Maybe, I've just had too much to drink at dinner.
and plz cut this trade talk...nothing is going to happen other than probably young prospect for young prospect and even then its slim pickings.
there is no point in getting a rental, its not worth it for the sens to make that kind of move in a really short season.
2nd rounder? for a healthy scratch? How about a 6th or 7th rounder... nothing more than that.. On second thought how about Bo or Gryba?
Tookie does nothing but bring his own opinions to the table and stand behind what he says with conviction, we all have our opinions and they are subjective - no clear correct or incorrect.
If someone like that, who brings a different perspective, irks you so much on a blog, for god sake man, stay away from the rest of the internet!
Calling to have a multi-year regular banned and threatening to come here less often? Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out pal!
This is a Senators site, not a My Little Pony site.
Hmmm....you have Turris twice and forgot Chris Neil.
Good to hear.
Seasons over at least for any reasonable go in the playoffs if we even got there.
I still think we win some games and have some fun to watch hockey but we are not going to set the world on fire.
Our young guys are going to get a ton of ice time, Silverburg Zibby Dacosta and others, we could get a good look at all our prospects to see where they are.
Look at it as a prep year for next year, trade our extras at the deadline for picks, let BM and company work their magic at the draft, pick up a stellar UFA or two at the deadline to get us back to the cap, good to go.
Gonchar would welcome being traded to a contender this year being we are more or less out of contention.
1. first and foremost; today is a good day because erik's tendon was not completely severed. If is was, we are looking at him returning next Christmas as a lesser hockey player.
2. Very sad day for Erik, we was on pace for a Hart and a Norris this year. That would put him in company with only Pronger and Orr.
3. anyone ever consider that Murray is not sold on Lenher? Would he consider riding Andy for 3 more years and moving Lenher (big return).
4. Would Alfie consider a trade to a consider in return for a contract from the sens this summer?
5. This years draft is stacked, we might have just landed a blessing. If we win a top three pick (through the lottery cause I expect us in the bottom 10, not 3) then we could land Drouin, Jones for MacKinnon- those three are "rebuild changers!!)
Let me know your thoughts on this somber EK65 Valentines day!
I wonder if Chiarelli would be interested. Boston looks like they'll run through the Eastern Conference this year.
Bishop will be traded at some point...
http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/02/14/senators-owner-eugene-melnyk-outraged-over-loss-of-erik-karlsson
As painful as that was to watch last night, imagine what it's like to be Euge.
You know, every time the Euge gets media time, I genuinely hold my breath in hopes he doesn't embarrass himself or get himself fined...
But in this case, I can only imagine how it must feel to be Sens management... especially BM. I just worry that the Euge will breathe down Murray's neck to make some rash trades...
Why not call up Gryba, give him a look. From what I can tell (meaning I've done very little research)Gryba is having a pretty good season in Bingo.
Only problem is Chirp likes him stirring the pot cause it causes more comments
At some point though, Chirp is going to have to decide if he wants a respected blog, or tookie.
After last nights disgusting display of joy from tookie about the severe injury of a young man, you would have thought something would have been done.
unfortunately, we are still exposed to his filth.
INDEED !
Most high quality blogs get rid of the bozos pretty quickly.
Sadly , SensChirp seems to be going the Eklund route - "anything" for page hits.
He is a total tool - nothing to laugh at
Guess you dont watch many Caps games ..Alot so called fans here of Hockey lol
That's what I always thought being a fan meant.
Or is it to, seeing the response from Tookie, be emotionlessly realistic of the situation and to apply a black and white lens over the picture.
To not be angry with what happened to one of 'our' players in 'our' team and to essentially be bias regardless of logic and rationale of what happened really makes me wonder the definition of a 'fan'.
What happened made me angry. Why? Because I'm an Ottawa Senators fan and one of my guy just got hurt.
Stop gap Neil as captain for two years and then pick the most worthy of the new crop.Spezza would have a hard time arguing Neil's influence on a game when he's motivated.
EK is the obvious choice but does he happen to be a player who is better with a letter?Is his eliteness made more elite? Give Neil a heart and soul guy the interim C and grow our leadership from within our youth.
Sell and draft is my current view(add the players names you see going out).WE may have the best drafting staff in best league in the world. Stock up now I say.WE take a good look at our depth and add more. Bryan and Tim have this organization in the best shape ever.
Our players are hurt but the sky isn't falling...This so called rebuild in spite of our teams injuries suffered may be the best rebuild ever!
I say continue to make it harder for them to win and lets watch them perform...
Secondly, Tookie isn't a SENATOR fan plain and simple. Just an asswipe who gets off for some reason taunting on here. Probably a little Pigman like Kramer was looking for in the Hospital on Seinfeld.
THirdly, time to divest ourselves of some of our Senior talent. Lets stockpile again. Give our young guys some playing time. + Bring up Kramer and Gryba to second Neil in case games get ugly.
OK back to feeling terrible about this year.
Are you kidding me? I can't stand the guy.
The issue I have is censoring someone for disagreeing with people. When he swears/personal ly attacks other readers it becomes easy, but when he has a different view point than mine? That's where it gets tricky...
I get zero benefit from more comments and people bickering with him, I'm just always hesitant to to ban users and delete comments just because they aren't in line with my personal opinions.
Agreed that last night was over the top and I deleted a few of his comments and asked him to dial it back a bit.
In an ideal world, he tires himself out and moves on to a different site but based on what I've seen from him over the years, I really don't think that's going to happen.
It's about time you chime in on our "negative nancy" hockey "know it all " !!
Thank you for feedback on why Tookie is still posting on your site.
No doubt, he knows hockey more than most of the smart posters on SensChirp, but he never respects a valid opinion, but always puts it down !
I have noticed in past few years, that he disappears, if you knock his argument out
of the ballpark !!
In other words, he will never rebuttal if he is left speechless.
He" turtles just like Cooke" !!!!!
(starts slow clap, tips Wisers whiskey glass to you and nods...)
You Sir...are bang on. That is the truest emotion I have read on this site in a long time.
It is not the opposing point of view that makes Tookie be tookie...it is when he starts putting useless posts that simply call other people stupid. It's like having a bully in the school yard and does not create a good discussion forum...which last time I checked...this is what this is suppose to be.
I know this is the internet...and people suck. But as the sole moderator, its is Chirp's job to create a healthy discussion environment. He is 100% correct in not banning tookie for his opinion....but getting rid of any inapropriate comments that just calls out other fans pointing out their own opinions.
Mind you...ignore would be nice some times ;)
There's always a downside, however, to a democracy...
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
Winston Churchill
Agreed. Loved this post. It's an emotion I struggle with when people start talking about maximizing assets, and stocking up draft picks. I get it, but it's not why I'm a fan.
Excellent analysis on why "tanking" is not a valid option !
Just checked the Western Conference standings, and Edmonton is in 11th place with record of 5-5-3 with multiple 1st round picks.
For you youngins...Im talking Karate Kid ya'll!
Thx SC for backing me up, the part about you not liking me hurt a bit tho ;)
Its funny how people get they're panties twisted in a knot when you simply disagree with them, then they want a ban and swear at me.
Last time I checked I havent attacked anyone in the last year and only stated facts, the most recent one, a freak injury on Karlsson which was proven many times over to be a hockey play gone wrong. Hell even other GM's and coaches validated this through the Panel on the night itself...Its not like I'm making this shit up...
That and the guy who attacked me regarding a high stick rule, which I was right again....only to have the guy flip out on me for being right...
Wow thx RUSH, never expected that, good to know people here enjoy diff opinions and not always the same old stuff.
And I agree if your threatening SC with a take it or leave it attitude then by all means leave, thats the type of individual we certainly dont need on this blog.
Claiming what happened to Karlsson being a freak accident as a FACT is quite ridiculous! Just because other peoples OPINION of what happened are the same does not make something a fact! A lot of young girls think Justin Bieber is the greatest artist ever, does that make it a FACT? I sure fucking hope not!We don't know what Cooke was thinking when he took Karlsson into the boards and I do not think he meant to cut Karlsson but I do think it was a reckless play.