Carolina is coming off what amounts to a mid-season vacation as they’ve had a couple days off since their 4-1 win in Toronto on Monday night. Two day breaks are pretty rare in this condensed schedule so you can expect a Canes team with a ton of jump. This is the third game on a six game road trip for Kirk Muller’s team.
The Sens are expected to have Sergei Gonchar back in the lineup tonight. Great news as this should help bring down Erik Karlsson’s minutes a little bit. Free agent acquisition Mike Lundin will make his Sens debut tonight, wearing #10.
For now Ottawa will carry eight defenceman which means Borowiecki and Wiercioch are healthy scratches. Daugavins is the scratch up front. Here is how the Sens lined up at the morning skate.
Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg
Greening-Regin-Neil
O’Brien-Da Costa-Condra
Methot-Karlsson
Benoit-Phillips
Lundin-Gonchar
Craig Anderson gets another start in the Ottawa goal, his league leading tenth of the season.
Puck drop is just after 7:30 PM. Metro Family night down at SBP tonight which means you can get a ticket, a hot dog and a drink starting at just $24.75. With prices like that, why watch it on TV? Hope to see a packed house tonight.
- While Craig Anderson continues to steal the show here in Ottawa, Robin Lehner has been just as impressive down in Binghamton. Last night Lehner stopped 29 shots in a 3-0 win over the Adirondack Phantoms. The shutout was Lehner’s third of the season. Newest BSen Brett Lebda added an empty net goal and received some power play time in his Binghamton debut.
- Congratulations goes out to former-Ottawa Senator Wade Redden has he gets set to suit up in 1000th game in the National Hockey League. While the name Redden is rarely spoken in this city without the words, “We should have kept Chara”, the reality is Redden was a quality player for this organization and even better representative in the community. Congrats to Wade on an accomplishment that has been a long time coming!
Ottawa wins 3-1!
Saw the Redden interview on TSN... good for him!
Agreed.
Latendresse is on the IR
http://senators.nhl.com/club/roster.htm
Thanks Chirp. I had the sense previously that he was essentially scratched due to his play but they were calling it an injury so as not to make a big deal about it.
4-0 Sens. Our captain buries 2.
GO SENS GO!!!
Height 6.01 -- Weight 195 -- Shoots L
Selected by Tampa Bay Lightning round 4 #102 overall 2004 NHL Entry Draft
From Hockey's Future (not sure how long ago it was written):
Lundin is a skilled defenseman who possesses exceptional playmaking abilities and athleticism. While he has good size, he could stand to bulk up. He is an excellent skater with good acceleration. Possesses some good hands and great passing ability. He also shows tremendous confidence with the puck. He can be utilized in every type of situation, including quarterbacking the power play. He possesses very good vision and hockey sense. He is positionally solid. Possesses a good, hard shot. He makes excellent outlet passes, has the ability to both jump up into plays and lead the rush up the ice. Possesses a great attitude and seemingly tireless work ethic.
Yeah that write up makes him sound like Karlsson but his stats look more like Phillips.
Could be just another situation where he needs a good home to shine. Murrs is great at finding those lads. Here is hoping he turns into the player that this person thought he was. Fresh start here in the nations capital. GO SENS GO
Who knew BenBoroCioch would start the year off so strong though?
from tampa bay forums ive read that lundin is a player you rarely hear his name on the ice (a good thing for a shutdown Dman), has the occasional good breakout pass. Not very physical.
in his time in tampa and minni, at times he looks like the best Dman on ice. has a pretty good shot and vision, at times he manned the top PP on the point with st.louis. but ever since his sophmore year where he only played in 25games, injuries have really slowed down his game.
lets hope he is healthy enough to get back to his original level, plus he is at a prime NHL Dman age (28 years)
not the worst idea but IMO if we dont move gonchar at deadline, i would not be against re-signing him for another year for a cheaper price assuming his play remains the same.
Don't we already have EK, Method, Phillips, Cowen, Benoit, Weircoch, Boro who can play? Why bring in another?
I could see that happening as well. I think it would be the best option, unless he wants to go to shittsburgh
Well, I called the last Canes win, score was wrong but... I'm gonna go with the Canes again, we somewhat broke the slump and now they had some rest.
Gonna go 2-1 Canes...
Also just a quick stat, we are 3-3 vs starting goaltenders (Teams #1), and 2 of those W's came vs Theodore...
I mentioned this before on these forums but more as a guy we target at the deadline if we are in a good position
Expiring contract, I'd wonder if NYI would flip Streit+3rd for bishop
streit is likely a better player than gonchar is at this age however with gonchar being very familiar with the team system and gets lots of high praise from karlsson and in general from teammates, i believe it would be the best option to keep him here
and plus it atleast leaves a positive note with russian Dmen playing in ottawa
edit: i wonder if the team still continued to have interest in viktor antipin
Would look good here while Spezz is out for sure
I doubt it unfortunately, it would probably have to be us to throw in a pick with Bishop. There will be a lot of interest for Streit at the deadline. I think if anyone offers us a 2nd or higher for Gonchar I say pull the trigger.
The UFA market for blueliners is thin but I think Murray could take another run at Smid from the Oilers (as an eventual replacement for Phillips) and although I think the wings would re-sign him, Ian White on a 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing Murray could do.
I would cream my pants if we landed Smid. He will probably be looking at Volchenkov monies though :(.
I think he wont be offered anything, with the way the young guys have been playing, I dont see any reason to bring back Gonchar.
Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Wiercioch, Phillips, Benoit... Boro & Gryba as insurance.
If anything happens it will be at the trade deadline, cant see Murray doing anything this early + team is winning.
Pavelec, Theodore (2) and Neuvirth (started more games than Holtby) - that seems to be 4.
To be fair though I don't know who Washington's #1 is, to be even fairer, nor do Washington.
Holtby is the #1 and goalie for the near future, he had a bad start and to be even fair to you, I dont even think they have a #1 goalie haha, so that still stays at 3.
Why do you support the Sens if you keep thinking they will lose?
Or do you set your expectations this ways so you can either be
(a) right (and get to tell us all about it like you did above) or
(b) wrong and your team wins???
Not trying to be a d*ck, just honestly curious...
Go!
Mostly for (a)
Why? Can you explain why you think the Canes (4-4) will beat the Sens (6-3-1)?
If you really believe so, you should put some $$$ on it since all the betting sites have Ottawa as major favorites. You could comment tomorrow "I was right... and won $50!"
1 word: Semin
edit: although i believe the sens will pull out with a 5-3 win.
But I was right?
And where would the fun be in a site where everything is rose coloured...
im still a firm believer of Senschirp is actaully Tookie.
The Canes have experience up front, they have a MUCH better top 6 than we do...Our D is better and G are very similar, both are elite with Anderson have a great start. Coaches I would say is even. Muller is no slouch.
IMO I think they can score more.
Staal
Staal
Semin
Skinner
Larose
Jokinen
vs
Turris
Alfie
Zibanejad
Silfverberg
Smith/Regin
Michalek
Cam Ward
Moe - I see what you did there. Nicely done!
On the Tookie picking the Canes topic, why does it bother people so much that he picked the Canes? While I WANT the Sens to win every game, the likelihood is that they won't. Maybe Tookie does pick the Sens to lose more often then not - so what? I don't see anyone ragging on the guys on here that pick the Sens to win EVERY SINGLE game...
That being said, Sens win tonight. 3-1. Gonchar, Karlsson, and... let's say... Silf.
Go Sens GO!
Whatever we lack in offensive ability we gain in the fact we always have the puck
With that being said and our system, and the way Carolina are structured, I don't see another 1-0 game, I see a 4-2 win with an empty net
Ill let Tookie vs Senschirp readers decide who has the 4 goals and who has the 2
Some guys just have really bad luck, I guess.
Mike Lundin
Assets: Has good mobility, sound instincts and hockey smarts. Limits his mistakes in the defensive zone and moves the puck efficiently.
Flaws: Doesn't own the top-end skills to produce good offensive numbers. Isn't very physical and needs to keep getting stronger in order to better handle big NHL forwards.
Career Potential: Mobile depth defenseman
At least Latendresse can take solace in knowing that he could miss the whole year and still not be our worst injury riddled player of all time, considering he lines up next to Peter Regin and somewhere walking around the ScotiaBank entrance still trying to find his way in is Pascal Leclaire
We are the 4th most penalized team in the league with 53 minors. And although CAR PP is not that great, you cant be giving teams tons of PP chances.
CAR is 15th most penalized team with 43 minors.
Quoting Tookie:
Didnt take me a long time to get this prediction right, haha 7 games in and the guy is already on IR...
Tell me you all saw that coming...
Ya you're always rolling the dice when you take a risk on a guy with a ridiculous injury history.
You think BM would have learned after Pascale Leclaire. I know it isn't merited, but there's nothing more frustrating than having a player on your favorite team, who all he does is get hurt and can never stay healthy.
Even when Lats was healthy though, he didn't do much. He's really a third line player moonlighting like a top six forward.
Who know if he'll have a job in the NHL after this season. Teams are tired of these type of players.
This is still a rebuild folks.
I do find this statement funny. Our rebuild is over
Yes we are building, but we are not rebuilding that has been done already
Our prospects are ready to perform now and our older guys aren't waiting around much longer. We are 2 years removed from the basement, we are an up and coming team, and we literally gain nothing from dumping gonchar, since who ever we drfat wont see our lineup in years after all our other prospects we currently have
why do you even post man? I don't think I've ever seen you pick a game where we win?
Rebuild/buildin g - however you label it we're not going to keep an old guy around who we could trade for picks/prospects . Gonchar is not going to be part of any "cup run" so his value to the long-term is only what he can bring at the deadline and whatever wisdom he can impart on our young players before that.
Alfie is the lone exception here for two reasons: 1. He's Alfie and should retire a Senator and 2. He just might be ageless.
Now I'm not saying the Sens can't pull off some miracle run this year but it won't be Gonchar that takes us there.
Right but what real value will he bring? a 2nd maybe? no one will give a 1st for him and his age
So we dump him for a 2nd and c level prospect, and probably get bounced in round 1
To me his value would be helping us get as deep as possible while giving mroe experience to our future
Well apparently our team sucks and we can only play over 500 hockey versus back up goalies so why would Murray think that?
So Silfverberg is a C level talent? Stone is a C level talent?
Why would we trade Gonchar for Stone or Silfverberg? We already own them
I said at best we trade Gonchar for a 2nd round pick + a c level prospect already drafted (similar to a "peterson" or a "filatov") prospects that wont amount to much
And yes I think its better suited for us to keep Gonchar than to get a 2nd round pick regardless if it leads us to a silf or stone type lottery of a pick
karlsson-methot
phillips-lundin
boro-benoit-weir
we will be gone in 5-6 games, which serves us no use
I just don't think Gonchar over whomever would take his ice time is going to make a difference between going deep and getting bounced in round 1. And even so, with this year's draft apparently deep, I'd still consider a 2nd rounder.
Who knows how things shape up at the deadline, but I would hope that the plan in pencil right now is to shop Gonchar, Lundin and Latendresse for whatever we can get.
Didn't see this coming. Safe to assume he's traded off as part of a package if possible. If not, we cut our ties after this season and say thanks for trying.
Is a 2nd round pick really worth the cost of not knowing how well we would do in the playoffs?
I just feel like with:
silf-MZ-boro-weircoch-ceci-cowen-noesen-puemple-stone-gryba-pageau-hoffman
we don't need more young depth, we need nhl ready players who can log minutes. We don't want to be the Oilers. You need experience mixed in and Gonchar provides that
I'd like him back next year as well to play with Cowen again
Yes we have lots of young guys, but this upcoming off-season we will need to concentrate up front, and I don't want to worry about our back-end again
We will have lots of holes in the top 6, so if we can keep Gonchar and secure our top 4 of karlsson-methot -gonchar-cowen then it will be much easier of an offseason for murray
If Murray thinks that Gonchar will make a significant difference to a possible playoff run then sure, keep him. But I just don't think he has that big an impact.
I think our most likely year where we can "make a run" is 2 years from now. At that point you might want some extra prospects to trade for rentals.
I'm not saying you're wrong and I agree with most of your points. But for me I just don't think Gonchar will be the difference maker on his own and he'll have value at the deadline.
You sound like Burke.
Agree with Alcatraz
I think we are better off keeping Gonchar.
If we trade him at the deadline for a 2nd
rounder or whatever, we would be making a big mistake not having Gonchar for the playoffs.
At least we know what Gonchar can do if healthy, and whoever we get in a trade
might not play as good or better than Gonchar.
We have enough young prospects in the stable !
There is a difference between what is presented above and:
Doughty-Greene
Mitchell-Martinec
Voynov-Scuderi
But in terms of what your saying about me is completely opposite of what I'm saying. Burke said why sneak into 8th and lose in 1st round which is what is being proposed by dumping gonchar
i'm saying the opposite in that lets go for it with what we have and trust our cupboard already for the future
Rebuild is a process, you can call it "building" if you want but when only 1 of the 3 1st round picks we got is playing and still in development stage, its not over...Its well on its way but its hardly over.
You think winning a couple games and finishing 7th-8th makes a rebuild over?
I understand where you are coming from but he doesn't have to be a difference maker on his own to help the Sens in the playoffs this year but he certainly helps and, IMO, is more valuable than Wier/Boro/Benoi t to 2013 playoff success.
unless Murray is blown away by an offer, I have no issues keeping him and losing him for "nothing." you can't always just trade a UFA for the sake of getting something back esp. if it makes a playoff bound team instantly worse or less prepared for the playoffs.
Right...so in knowing that we are 7/8th an are on the right side of ".500" all with a cupboard stocked full of 1st rounders in fcat your wrong we still ahve 3 left in puemple, noesen and Ceci
Why should we still be dumping our servicable players
We rebuilt by dumping Kelly, Fisher etc
When I say "building" I mean our need to dump all value is over. we just need pieces here and there which will be done through development of existing prospects and bringing in pieces via trade
Where did I say our team sucks?
I stated a fact, its not the Sens fault the other teams play backups vs us.
He's been better then Methot? Not saying he has been bad but I don't think he has been better then Methot.
I know that there is a lot of hockey left but it crossed my mind how cool it would be if Andy and King Karl won together
I'm saying we have so many prospects ready to go, we don't need to be dumping our few NHL vets for more picks and prospects as we will never have enough room to play them all.
Yes I get the notion of stock up and sell them later when we are ready, but with this NHL and the parity, every team has a chance, and you can't just label something as "our year to go for it" You ave to be ready to pounce every year, just like LA last year
I'm not anti-Gonchar at all. I've defended him on here a dozen times. I just don't think we'll find ourselves in a situation where with Gonchar we're a cup contender and without him we're knocked out in the first round.
I think so. Methot has been great, but it helps playing with Karlsson. He has been rocksolid, but Gonchar has played with deveral partners already this year, has been great on both PP and PK and has generally been really strong and making sure the 2nd pairing has been reliable
Again Methot has been great and exactly what the doctor ordered but Gonchar plays every minute situation and has helped us alot in making sure we can give Karlsson a break every once in a while
Thus the rebuild is still in full effect.
@Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE
this is the Burke comment you were hoping to pin on me
Just to clear the air
Why not go for it with what we have, and if we fail in the 1st round who cares. Id rather that then send a poor msg to the room as they watch Gonchar pack his bags for a more "playoff ready" team than us
Yes we are constantly improving, but we are past the phase where we need to dump all expiring contracts for the sake of stocking up on prospects
We have the luxury now of being able to move forward with what we have while still knowing our future is awesome
Pretty sure LA went for IT, they did trade their best prospects for Carter and Richards.
And now are suffering from lack of depth.
But if Murray and Gonchar speak and he knows Gonchar is willing to take a 1yr/4m deal then that changes things, and I would love that contract personally, as Cowen then just assumes Gonchars caphit the following year when his ELC expires
Mind you the screwjob the Habs put on Subban really helps us with Cowen negotiations
Jack Johnson was hardly their best prospect, they weren't too happy with him anymore, and quite frankly kinda sucks
As for Richards ya they got rid of Simmonds and Schenn which was a lot
LA tried to trade Brown so they weren't "going for it" they were trying to improve
and I don't think there issue is depth lol
They are now, where they were last year, except they got real hot at playoffs and rode a hot goalie to glory
Exactly what I'm saying in that anyone can win
I hope the goal of the Sens is to put the best team on the ice without irresponsibly sacrificing the future. our prospect pool is deep enough that we don't need to trade GOnchar for another pick or prospect if he makes the Sens a better team now.
But at the same time, if the Sens are blown away by an offer for Gonchar, I have no issues going for it and rolling the dice with the unknowns in Weir, Boro or Benoit.
Well said
even when you say "your going for it" it doesn't pay off we did it for 4 straight years with Bondra etc
We are in an enviable situation, so we don't need to make any classifications moves. Make the best possible deal in every situation
Again, the crux of the issue is you equate keeping Gonchar with "going for it" and trading him with sending a message. I just don't think he's that valuable. Last year with Kuba I said the same things - I wanted to trade him at the deadline and go charging into the playoffs with the team we had (sans Kuba).
I'm also assuming here that Wiercioch, Benoit and Boro continue to play the way they have and that Lundin gets moved for a late pick as well.
Now if Cowen can actually come back for the playoffs somehow and if we end up in first in the division at the deadline with no other injuries, maybe it's worth keeping Gonchar for the playoffs like we ended up doing with Kuba last year.
The stocking up on prospects should never stop, you talk as tho the prospects we have now are sure fire NHL'ers? You dont know that, they could all be busts for all we know.
You should always acquire picks when you can, especially when it is rumored to be a deep draft like 2014, a 2nd round pick could go a long way.
Ok then my final point would be if you as a fan on the team that employs Gonchar doesn't see him as valuable in a playoff series over the likes of a weircoch, benoit or borowiecki, then what team would actually offer enough to "blow us away"
Hes not valuable to us who are weak on def so whats his actual trade value?
what did the penguins give us for Kovalev? a 7th rounder. while gonchar is not the same level of underachiever, he is pretty old - 38/39? so noone will give a 2nd rounder for him. sens are better off holding onto him as he is much better value. if the sens were for sure not to make the playoffs then yea they should trade him then.
changing topic - i think the sens D needs to get dirty in their own crease because i have noticed team get close to andy and get lucky bounces - mtl potted two by getting their smurfs in close.
you "stock" up on prospects by not trading the ones you get for free every year (1 through 7)
Detroit never stocked up on picks, they just never traded their own and they drafted well consistently
But he doesnt, thats the point, with or without Gonchar, the team plays the exact same way. Why not get a 2nd round pick for him.
As for sending a message, thats BS, its a business man, players know that they can go anytime, the TEAM always comes before the individual.
And, as we are in a rebuild/build mode, Gonchar at 40 years old is not part of that process. If he can fetch us a 2nd, its a no brainer.
Other teams don't have Karlsson so are more desperate for a PP QB. And I don't need to be "blown away" - I just want fair value for him. If rumors are to be believed, Pitt will offer a second rounder for him perhaps and I'd take that.
Again, with the assumption that come deadline day MacLean doesn't see losing Gonchar as a difference maker on the team. If Lundin and the AHL boys all are playing their way out of the lineup then we need Gonchar if we're playing any playoff games.
Yes and its hurting them now the last couple of years not having extra picks and whatnot to reload the cuboards. They are very bare on prospects right now and have seen decline in the last couple of years due to it.
They got REALLY lucky with Zetterberg and Datsyuk, having Lidstrom helped also but after that they are pretty bare, they did an amazing job riding those guys to couple of Cups but the glory days are over for Det now.
Id rather have to "rebuild" from the glory days then "rebuild" because our team just sucked which is why we are rebuilding
Brendan Smith, Howard, Brunner, Kindl, Flipula they are still set up well, but days as surefire #1 is no longer
But entering the playoffs with a PP rotation of karlsson and weircoch and benoit and phillips
yikes, yes I know we can put Alfie but Murray doesn't like doign that
@ Tookie,
Gonchar and his experience, are worth more than (2) 2nd round picks, and he is a valuable mentor to all our young defense prospects, and also all our defencmen.
Murray will do like he did with Kuba, as Hax said so well, he will keep Gonchar
in case we qualify for this year's playoffs.
If we do not qualify, he becomes tradeable.
Mentor, schmentor - by the deadline he better have already passed on all his knowledge.
@ Hax,
No way, he will simply carry it over into
the playoffs !!
I don't know who prints their copy.. but boy did they get that wrong...
Hoping for a win tonight. First task.. stay OUT of the penalty box. Second task.. keep Eric Staal in check...
If we make playoffs and are up 3 games to 2 with 5 minutes left and up 1-0 I'd rather roll karlsson-methot and phillips-goncha r to get the win, thats just me haha
I agree with you there. I've been saying for a while now it's time to put Alfie back on the point on the PP. But with Spezza out I guess they want Alfie to play "distributor".
And yes, the PP will be the deciding factor. If MacLean feels he can put one great unit out and one good unit out next without Gonchar then great. If he can barely put one good unit together then we should keep him.
By the deadline we can maybe have this PP lineup:
19-9-33-65-11
7-93-25-46-61
I agree, Gonchar is worth more to this team then potentially receiving the 60th overall pick should Pittsburgh win the cup. I guarantee he wants to play next year so he can play in the Olympics on home soil. I'll bet he would sign a reasonable one year extension and is a perfect veteran pairing for Cowen for one more year. And I wouldn't be surprised if he would prefer to stay in Ottawa and not uproot his family just because of his man love for Malkin.
Not me. Maybe take both into the playoffs if we decide to make a push but I'd rather keep whatever it would cost to get Streit.
Couldn't agree more with you Hax
We aren't paying to score like Karlsson. The Sens pay him to write how to books for the young guns on our team. If he's not done his 3rd edition by the deadline, then the book shall have no end and we shall receive at the minimum a 2nd rounder
He is of course worth a 2nd to a cup contender (we paid 1st for Campoli... a 2nd for Commodore)
I agree it's not a great D lineup, but if the rumors of Gonchar going back to Pitt are true, I'd expect we get a prospect or decent dman back from them. They have quite the pipeline as well.
I couldn't see BM trading Gonchar with no other trade to get a dman back unless the team falls off the cliff due to injuries and they just roll with a rebuild lineup to finish out the year.
Completely agree!
I sure hope we don't go after Streit. Overpaid, defensive liability!
well I disagree with that, which is fine, to each their own. Chirp mentioned that a returning Gonchar will reduce Karlssons minutes from 32 to under 30, which is more sustainable and, IMO, a big impact. I think the way he is playing now we are better with him than without and his experience is valuable.
Just because the media says detroit is in trouble, doesn't mean they are. They have a top ranked prospect pool.
Nyquist, Tatar, Mrazek, Sheahan all names not mentioned above you can add to the list of better than average prospects.
I would put Spezza on long term IR if we have any doubt of his abilities to be back
Its a short season so regardless when he comes back it will be into a condensed schedule
Sit him out for entire year. If gonchar isn't coming back next year (I want him to) dump him (but only if he commits to leaving)
Finally use the cap savings from Spezza on LTIR and see if we can target a UFA or RFA to be that carries a cap hit, and try and get the contract early (looking at your cory perry)
Sets us up for next year with Spezza+Cowen returning +Lehner backup + prospects coming up in Noesen/Stone/Ce ci
Where's Tookie when you need his flamboyant
analyses ??
www.thefirstrow.eu under ice hockey tab
or...
http://www.firstrow1.eu/sport/ice-hockey.html
Move is cap-related -- #Isles needed to be over the floor by tomorrow, needed insurance against not being cap compliant the entire season.
that atleast sets a bar for prices of goalies. i assume we are waiting for loungo to be moved so we know how much bishop can cost.
It sets the bar for the price of cap room. Has nothing to do with goalies since Thomas is holed up somewhere in a bunker planning a coup.
ah you are right,
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
The Boston Bruins only get a draft pick from the Islanders for Tim Thomas if he reports to them or any other team if NYI trade his rights.
Otherwise, the benefit for BOS is gaining cap space Thomas was eating up because he's on a 35+ contract. Counts against cap no matter what.
hmm...whats the chance of him showing up for NYI....man that would spell doom for the atlantic division.
which bring me to my next point if the salary isn't being used then how in the world is it being used towards the salary cap?
Thanks! Hopefully Ward has an off game and we can shalack him for 5 or 6 LOL.. But realistically it will probably be another low scoring affair. Sens 3-1
what did the penguins give us for Kovalev? a 7th rounder. while gonchar is not the same level of underachiever, he is pretty old - 38/39? so noone will give a 2nd rounder for him. sens are better off holding onto him as he is much better value. if the sens were for sure not to make the playoffs then yea they should trade him then.
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Paul Gaustad went for a 1st rounder and he can barely stand up on skates. Teams do desperate things come deadline day.
Thomas' contract is a 35+ one (like Alfie's). It counts towards the cap even if he retires.
So essentially, the Isles just fixed their cap floor problem without spending a dime and Boston gets some security in that if Thomas shows up in NY they get a second rounder.
Thank you hax that helps!
once again, no pick if no play. just pay checks
Shawn Matthias disagrees with this.
Gonchar if some team seriously needs to over pay for him sell him at the deadline, if not I have no problem keeping him.
Resign him next year, no thanks.
I am not a gonchar hater but we have a boatload of talent ready to step in.
Going to be a tough game, Carolina is stacked but I hope for a win, we really need to bring it.
Go Sens Go
You're not wrong, but I'm a little worried about you anyway.
Get a girlfriend or a hobby we get that you don't like him now stop complaining Like a baby.
This is why we have the "report to administrator"
Any possibility of a mute button on some user?
Gotta love that goal by Karlsson! For a tiny defenseman gotta love how he goes to the net!
Just giving them false hope ;)
DaCosta may turn into the player that Butler was supposed to be but didn't become...
Hum, he just proved you right lol
Really good effort by the sens in the first half of the second.
I haven't even come close to think that since then up until Paul Maclean came in and let Karlsson loose. This kid is something special.
He creates chances every single shift. Reminds me of Ovechkin, back when he first came into the league.
Right now he is hands down the most exciting, dominant and most valuable player in the league.
I have to say it...got a signed DaCosta heritage jersey. What up!
Danced right thru the D with sick pass from King Karl.
Yeah speaking of complaining like a baby...
Quit pretending that Michalek is worth the money or ice time and I will stop pointing out how bad he is
Good close game, this is where Andy shuts them down...
Ouch, I feel bad for you...
B) morbidly obese 15 year old
What hapen to ''If nobody responds to the guy he won't get his thrill by seeing the freakouts of the other posters.. Just ignore and he will go away! ''
its all it takes really. and dont give him either thumb down either, that still is enough for him to keep posting
Mtl 4 - 3 Buff 6 min left mtl on the pp
Goal scored at 19:58
Geez, this guy is such a big lazy good for nothing slug. Has he even created anything all game? Registered a shot?
Heck, already young gus like Zibanejad, Sifverberg, Greening, Da Costa are playing better. Frig even Jimmy O'Brien works harder than he does!
What a waste of skin
They can trade less desirable games for better ones, or ones that suit there schedule more. And then if the seat does not get resold for the game it stays empty. I personally traded mine for the Pittsburgh game at the end of the season since it fits my ability to go to the west end better.
I don't use the trade service. I go or find someone to go. My seat is never empty. If I can't sell it, I give it to a friend.
indeed
Ya but at least we got a point. Better than nothing
I know how you feel, but to be fair, Cam Ward was outstanding.
Wasn't it Ellis in net last game?
So now we've lost to both their back-up and their starter... Let's hope for god sakes the last game isn't a third string goalie...
Rest of team looked good
Trade coming soon
just ment in general cam ward steals many games for the canes all throughout his career hes been doing just that.
I for one, am happy with the point. Keeps us in things. If anything, tonight's play by the team was very encouraging.
But again, I can't stress how poor Milan Michalek has been. Apparently, the Sens are in talks for Stephen Weiss, I hope Michalek is on the other way back.
Absolutely. But even then, the 19 year old kid with, what ten games of NHL experience, looked better than Michalek.
Good one. I like this team too. They will get better and better. One thing, they are one exciting bunch to watch.
Go Sens Go
Guys, Andy stole some games for us too in the first few games.
The Sens are doing just fine and the way they are playing, they will win more then lose.
Not sure many experts would bet on the Sens to play 500 hockey will Spezza out for 2 months, They will prove them wrong and make the playoffs.
Regin is also getting better.
As an aside, that's the second game that Condra blew a tire and took himself out of the play in our own end, nearly costing us a goal. Sharpen your skates or sit your ass on the bench.
and what a pass by Silfver..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0lx2hzjzAc
My thoughts;
-I was watching Dacosta during the national anthem, the kid looked like he was having an anxiety attack while he hyperventilated -pretty entertaining. Thought he created a couple great chances.
- looked like Lundin had a bit of rust but he kind of reminds me of Preissing in that he just gets the job done quietly. This will allow Phillips to slide into a more appropriate role.
Pretty amazing watching Karlsson move the puck up ice at will despite 3 hurricanes trying to hem him in. Also loved him waiving Gonchar over to him on the PP.
Tonight's what he hell moment....
What the hell was Phillips and Neil doing on the ice on a PP in a tight game in the third period?
Are u trying to get the most thumbs down ever? Thats the post to do it!! go go go!
Actually that was a softy on Ward, no way that should go in. Alfie even admitted it.
Game was close and except for a few breakdowns on D (Phillips, Benoit) those cost u games. Back to back losses for Andy...Bishop's turn.
This is sooooooo obvious
It will be interesting when toronto and montreal play saturday, the reffs wont know who to throw the game for
Edit: just seen I was extremely late on post. As if they didn't let him retire a Bruin.
Very entertaining game!
The tying goal, Phillips pinched you could blame him but wtf was Smith doing, he went back to cover for Phillips then for some reason decides to leave that side of the ice wide open and make Benoit switch sides, by that time Semin was all by himself at our blueline.
Next goal I would definitely put the blame on Phillips if Benoit is going to try to hold the puck in at the blueline, BigRig should have gotten back to cover for his partner, instead he just stood there inside the blueline watching for some reason. Then you have to ask WTF were those 2 doing on the ice in OT anyway, but to me Gonchar was pretty shitty and slow last night as well looked like that flu is still kicking his ass a little bit. Although, you probably could play Karlsson all 5 mins of OT, I guess he wanted to give him a break.
During large parts of the second period the Sens looked SCARY GOOD! Complete domination of the puck! Keep it up boys! They keep playing like that we will definitely make the playoff!
Yeah, that was a fun game, lots of chances both ways and great saves from each goalie to keep they're team in the game. I'm 2-0 so far going against the Sens, haha, gonna try and go with the Sens for my next prediction!!
Since the 2010-11 season, over a span of 10 games, we have 3 wins. 2 in regulation and 1 that came via shootout. We've only managed 17 goals. That's 1.7 GPG which will not win you games in the NHL.
So let's step back a little. Every team has a team or two they struggle against. And on the flip side, they have a few that they just seem to dominate. In most cases you just consider it a wash. However, in a condensed season, you have to factor in all aspects. Considering we did walk away with a point, is a BIG relief. Obviously we wanted the 2, but I'll take 1 point against a team we struggle with any day of the week.
On the plus side, we have been playing very steady hockey and those missed chances will soon start finding the mark. Its just a matter of time.
To put that into perspective, we are ahead of teams like NY, Philly, Buffalo and Washington. And most experts predicted them to be competing for the top 8 spots from the start. Now again, we are only early in the season and have only played two of those teams mentioned, but we did win those games. Yes the road ahead will be harder as we start to play against those teams, but I fully expect we'll come out playing harder as well.
Our core is young and that gives us a little edge, because it makes us unpredictable. Not only should our guys have the ability to refresh quicker, but we have enough of them to swap in and out of the lineup when we need fresh legs. And if Ottawa decides to make a trade in the absence of Spezza, it'll only help our cause. I'm not saying I'm up for pulling the trigger because of an OT lose, cause that's crap.
Not good enough for a top six role. Even Stephane Da Costa playing in his first game of the season last night showed more effort.
He looks like he doesn't have any motivation
I didn't want to get into this too soon, because of all the heat that ZipZap takes
but Michalek has actually looked pretty bad. no legs, and seems behind the play. also, a serious lack of shooting
he's putting up points though, assists. We all knew he likely wouldn't score at the pace he was at last year, so maybe the saving grace is that he's making up for not scoring with playmaking.
until he's off the score sheet for 2-3 games in a row, I won't be worried
But he's really got to pick his game up
Please do us a favor. We know your song by heart now, please restrain yourself of posting anything related to MM9.
Grow up already.
Was impressed with the efforts from Zibanejad, Silfverberg and Regin along with many others last night. Lundin looked fine as well so I expect Boro will get sent down today unless they want one more game to be sure Lundin is set.
Good effort all around though and it's hard to lay blame on anyone when they dominate that much of the game.
Live to fight another day. GO SENS GO!!!
We are probably in the top 5 teams to get the puck out of our zone. I am impressed all the time how fast they switch to offense. I was watching the first period of Buffalo against the Habs last night and the Sabres play in their zone looks like beer league at best. Unbelievable. I would fire their defensive coach on the spot.
You could tell Lundin was not sharp last nigth but I liked what I saw of him.
This is exactly the type of attitude Sens fans should have today after the heart-breaker. Go Sens!!!
The Sens are 21-15 in even strenght scoring chances but 10-2 when King Karl is on the ice and 11-13 when he's not.