Friday, 01 February 2013 21:49

Sens Blanked in Carolina

Fans of the Ottawa Senators got an ugly reminder of just how difficult things can be without Jason Spezza.

Eric Staal was the only Hurricane to score on the night but it was enough to earn the W as the Senators struggled to generate offence against Dan Ellis and the rest of a defensively sound home side.  The end result- a 1-0 loss at the hands of the Carolina Hurricanes.

Without their number one centre, it's pretty clear the Senators are going to have to work hard to create chances and tonight they just couldn't seem to get anything going.

Despite throwing 33 shots his way, it really was an easy night for the Hurricanes back up goaltender, Dan Ellis. MacLean shuffled the lines a few times over the course of sixty minutes but there just didn't seem to be any chemistry between the trios he was sending over the boards.

Kyle Turris, who assumes first line duties for the forseeable future, logged 20:33 of ice time and registered a couple shots on goal. He looked pretty good with the Sens on the power play but obviously his success is going to measured in points and tonight he came up empty.

Craig Anderson held up his end of the bargain at the other end of the ice.

The only shot to beat him through forty minutes was a nifty deflection by Canes Captain Eric Staal. Beyond that, Anderson was excellent, bailing his team out on multiple occasions. Anderson was actually able to keep his incredible run of shutout hockey in the 2nd and 3rd periods alive despite the loss.

While the Senators obviously missed him tonight, the good news is Jason Spezza's surgery was a success and his rehab period can begin in just over a week. While it's impossible to know exactly how long Spezza will be out for, Murray did mention ideally they would have him back around the April 3 trade deadline.

Murray also told Ian Mendes that while no deals are expected this weekend, he does have some possibilities in play that he has already discussed with other teams. As I mentioned this morning, Murray is not going to make a panic move here but he will be active and closely monitor the market for available options in the event he does decide a trade is the best option.

The Sens are off tomorrow and then back at it on Sunday afternoon when they visit the Montreal Canadiens.

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+1 #1 hq8 2013-02-01 21:59
i thought they played a decent game in the end just did not have the puck luck and definitely lacked that zip today. it doesnt help that the bottom lines didnt generate a little more which caused a complete blender of lines to be thrown out.
I think the Regin experiment should be over - now. bring up Da Costa. he is producing down in the AHL. Regin has had 9 games to produce, got super setups by alfie but no bite.

atleast our defense is holding up pretty good i think.

i would say the game was pretty even. one bad bounce cost sens a goal. andy was phenomenal.

again, the sens need to solve the 2C-interim issue i think. it puts more pressure on the bottom two lines and even more on Turris.

Jason Arnott's deal with NYR did not go through....mayb e Murray should look at this because the guy can still play and was very useful for St. Louis last season
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+2 #2 T K 2013-02-01 22:05
Anderson was stellar once again. Best trade ever. Only thing bad about it is that it took 2 years longer than it should have to become possible.
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-24 #3 jakester 2013-02-01 22:24
Time for DaCosta , I think he can produce if you give him 2 decent wingers (Alfie and maybe Zibby). Otherwise , I'd package Bishop with one of Zack Smith or Greening plus a prospect to get a decent center man. But before that I'd give DaCosta a shot. Smith can be replaced with Derek Grant, but I think Greening might be the guy to move in a trade , we have a number of. Guys in Bingo who can play wing. Regin can be moved as well if you think about it! Going to be an interesting next couple of weeks.

Go Sens Go!
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-3 #4 jakester 2013-02-01 22:29
Edmonton needs a second goalie plus some grit. We have what they need. Maybe Sam Gagner and Smid can be whisked away. Bishop plus what other pieces?
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+2 #5 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-01 22:34
Just looking forward to Sunday. A win in Montreal would be fantastic.

The team is going to have to be better though!

Also been absolutely loving Zibanejad. This kid can play
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+2 #6 hq8 2013-02-01 22:51
Quoting jakester:
Edmonton needs a second goalie plus some grit. We have what they need. Maybe Sam Gagner and Smid can be whisked away. Bishop plus what other pieces?


no no and no. edmonton actually has a decent bottom six. they play horcoff as their 3C and Belanger as 4C plus Jones, Eager, Hartikainnen, Petrell and Lander. edmonton don't need any of our forwards. and they wont give us Smid - he is their best d-man defensively lol...probably the only one.

and no to trade smith or greening. they produce, only tonight they didnt. both had 2 pts each against mtl.

sens need to really take a hard look at Regin. its tough and unfair - but such is life. he is coming off an injury, but really this is the best chance for him, only that time is short. he had multiple setups by alfie, but completely ruined them, not to mention he holds the puck too long and is not creative in the offensive zone.
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+7 #7 jakester 2013-02-01 23:01
Arnott flunks his physical with the Rangers and u want Murray to give him a shot, C'mon bro how many bottles have you had tonight?
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-3 #8 hq8 2013-02-01 23:03
we could get maybe a Paajarvi out of edmonton....but he is a winger and we have enough of them too. i think sens need a 3C who can produce and can compete enough to drive Smith and O'Brien to perform by threatening their positions.

the best bet right now is DaCosta and after that i think they should maybe just stick with it. it sucks considering Gomez was on the open market just till last weekend.
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+2 #9 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-01 23:24
I agree about DaCosta, bring him up and make him 2nd line C, Turris stays 1st. DC should get plenty of time and space, like Turris did at that role and honestly, DC is a better play maker.
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-1 #10 timwrx 2013-02-01 23:33
Don't take Dacosta! The team here is weak enough!
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0 #11 jakester 2013-02-01 23:34
Hq8 - Gomez you can't be serious take that post down before you are laughed out of here! He can't even play in a beer league anymore.
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-2 #12 jakester 2013-02-01 23:42
Paul Stastny or Ryan O'Reilly might be the way to go. You have to figure that Colorado will move one of them.
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+1 #13 Mitchell 2013-02-01 23:48
I like the idea of Stephane Weiss (if I spelt that right.) his a UFA I think he could do a really good job on the bottom 6 his around Spezza age and is easily a 40 plus point player. As much as i prefer having are youth come up and experience and learn from some nhl games theres nothing wrong with acquiring some veteran help to mentor for a short period.
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0 #14 Mitchell 2013-02-01 23:53
I think I'm wrong on Stephen Weiss he looks to be signed under Florida for the 2012/2013 season (source cap geek) my mistake
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+1 #15 Merchaholic 2013-02-02 02:05
Anderson is doing well for us. We just need a spark up front.
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+2 #16 Merchaholic 2013-02-02 02:17
So will Latts, Regin and Bishop be included in our trade for some help?
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+4 #17 Tcharger 2013-02-02 07:02
I would hardly consider last nights game a weak effort...we lost 1-0 on a relatively fluky deflection.

Yes we lost Spezza for the foreseeable future, but we are still right at the top of the east, 7th in the league in scoring, 2nd in goals against.

So we lost a game, if anyone actually expected us to go some odd 40-0 you will be disappointed.

Are people seriously suggesting signing a 38 year old guy that has failed his physical? WOW
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+5 #18 No65* 2013-02-02 08:40
Spezza will be back in 4 to 5 weeks max. Mark my words.

Murray won't make any move for a center. We won 2 of the last 3 without Spezza, where is the problem? With Anderson and Karlsson, we will never be out of games.

We have seen good plays from Alfie last night, he is getting his game back. How about a line 33-93-11, how swede would that be.
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+3 #19 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-02 08:58
Yeah I must say I'm not at all interested in seeing Murray give up assets for a rental type player to fill in the top six while Spezza is out. I would be in favor of the Sens going after Ryan O'Reilly or someone of his calibre who can figure into the long term plan here in Ottawa.

I think Murray will stand pat and roll with the guys we have. Sink or swim with the players we have drafted, signed and developed. If we make the playoffs despite Spezza's absence, which I believe we will, then great. If not, then we can pick up another promising prospect at the draft to fill our cupboards.
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0 #20 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-02 09:23
After a lot of juggling of the line combinations in Carolina, with Spezza out indefinitely, MacLean will find the right
combos to get back in the win column.

Too bad that Regin has not produced as expected, so I see him scratched in Montreal game ! Would love to try Stephane Da Costa for 4-6 games, as 2c with Daugavins on LW,and Alfredsson on RW.

This Line 2 combo might take some pressure off of Turris as 1c.
Michalek - Turris - Silverberg.

The 3rd and 4th lines would not change, as they are playing very well for now !

Defense pairings should be the same as Carolina game !
Anderson starts in goal as usual !

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
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-1 #21 Floridasensfan 2013-02-02 10:03
Another bring up Dacosta here and Regin is a failed experiment.
He played well at the end of one season was invisible the next full season and then the season after he was out to injury.
He has had more than enough chance to shine.
The year he was invisible I think he got one more goal than Kuba.
I also agree it was just one game and lets not forget Carolina got stacked this off season so no shocker it was a tough game.

We were lucky it was 1 - 0

Lets quiet the Montreal crowd unless it is to boo their own players.
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+2 #22 NadislavLagy 2013-02-02 10:16
I can't see how Murray brings in a C via trade. The cost to add a top 6 C will not be cheap, and we have two when healthy (Spezza & Turris). So bring in another means when the team is healthy, someone gets bumped down, or a C has to be moved to the W, which we know does't always go over well.

You don't make a panic move and bring in a rental C. Not sure if getting a fringe top 6 C for cheap and flipping him would go over well with the player and reflect badly on the team, nor do you give up anything for a UFA who walks because you don't have a role for him.

As painful as it might be, stay the course and give some guys within the chance. This is a great opportunity for some young guys to get a look.
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+2 #23 visser85 2013-02-02 10:35
Let's ride it out for a week. Evaluate where we are at after Hockey Day in Canada. Silvfer, Z-bad, Latendresse, Regin are all playing in Macleans system for the first time really. It's only 8 games....Give these guys a chance.
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+3 #24 Hax 2013-02-02 11:11
Quoting Merchaholic:
So will Latts, Regin and Bishop be included in our trade for some help?


Yeah because you can always package up guys that you don't even want for some other team's #2C.
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-2 #25 Spinorama 2013-02-02 11:37
I think most of you under estimate what Paarjvi can do. He's killing penalties and playing third line/fourth line minutes in Edmonton. Given a REAL opportunity he can still blossom just like Turris is doing. I wouldn't complain about watching a future line of Paarjvi - Zibanejad - Silfverberg (once Alfie retires). Right now he can be had at a low price therefore well worth the risk. Sending Bishop the other way would also clear the room for Lehner to come up. It just seems like a good fit for both teams. With that being said Weiss would also be a good fit and could potentially be that LW that Spezza needs.
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0 #26 Andrews Theory 2013-02-02 12:07
If Spezza is expected back by the trade deadline, why wouldn't we make a trade to get us over the hump then flip that guy or someone else at the deadline to regain whatever it was that we gave up?

IE. you have to give up a 2nd, 3rd and say a couple prospects but then you trade that asset at the deadline for essentially what you paid....
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-2 #27 jakester 2013-02-02 12:54
If you can pry Paajarvi out of Edmonton for let's say Bishop and a pick or another prospect - I say do it. He'd thrive in Ottawa's style of play.
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-1 #28 jakester 2013-02-02 12:56
Exactly Andrew - people forget that the guy you get in a trade can be traded again for the equivalent or more down the road.
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0 #29 FBP 2013-02-02 13:01
Quoting NadislavLagy:
I can't see how Murray brings in a C via trade. The cost to add a top 6 C will not be cheap, and we have two when healthy (Spezza & Turris). So bring in another means when the team is healthy, someone gets bumped down, or a C has to be moved to the W, which we know does't always go over well.

You don't make a panic move and bring in a rental C. Not sure if getting a fringe top 6 C for cheap and flipping him would go over well with the player and reflect badly on the team, nor do you give up anything for a UFA who walks because you don't have a role for him.

As painful as it might be, stay the course and give some guys within the chance. This is a great opportunity for some young guys to get a look.


I wouldn't mind picking up a quality C, if he doesn't mind switching over to wing when Turris and Spezza are healthy.

Have O'Reilly or Weiss ever played wing?
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0 #30 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-02 13:26
I don't know if it is possible, but Ryan O'Reilly is a good young player.
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0 #31 jakester 2013-02-02 13:28
Pittsburgh are looking for a winger and are shopping D-man Simon Despres. He would look awesome in a Sens uniform 6-4 and can skate -very skilled D-man.
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0 #32 Sandy 2013-02-02 13:29
Quoting timwrx:
Don't take Dacosta! The team here is weak enough!


Yeah Timwrx.. with Zibby in Ottawa along with Wiercioch, Benoit & Bo.. and injuries to Stone & Hoffman.. the BSens are missing a lot of key players.

One of the D will be sent back when Lundin is ready to play.

I believe, IMO, one of the trades Murray will make will be to include Bishop.. which means the BSens lose Lehner.

I can't see Murray dealing Smith or Greening.. The Stache relies on these two...

Also noted last night on a ticker that Coyotes sent Rundblad to Arizona of the CHL? Is he that bad that he can't play in the AHL? He's an offensive defenseman trying to play in the defensive style of Tippett. We can see how much better Turris is... is Rundblad that bad now - or is it he doesn't fit in their system?

I would think Murray will target a young winger. Someone that can play long term in Ottawa..
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-4 #33 jakester 2013-02-02 13:57
If it's a winger let's hope it's Paajarvi Sandy.
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-1 #34 jakester 2013-02-02 15:35
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ssmnMjOhxhk

I think there's potential here.
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+3 #35 CarloswSPECR1 2013-02-02 15:51
I can't believe how some of you so called fans are panicking like chickens with their heads cutted-off. It was a very close game, Anderson kept us in it, and if you want to look at it from a statistical point of view, we haven't won against the 'Canes at their home for quite a while.

With that in mind, I'd wait and see what the next 2 games are like.

I think the team listened to the coach, and sticked to the game plan. Just couldn't get any lucky bounces.

We're fine for now.
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0 #36 conor_smythe 2013-02-02 17:28
Chirp, you've got to toss us a bone here, which teams have you heard the senators are in contact with regarding a serious trade?

My estimated timeline for Bryan Murray has him making a move within a week. Especially if we lose again

I don't think it would be considered a panic move when your best forward and 2ñd best defenseman are gone for the season.

This team CAN win games, but it would be better with a little help
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+5 #37 SensChirp 2013-02-02 18:04
Quoting conor_smythe:
Chirp, you've got to toss us a bone here, which teams have you heard the senators are in contact with regarding a serious trade?

My estimated timeline for Bryan Murray has him making a move within a week. Especially if we lose again

I don't think it would be considered a panic move when your best forward and 2ñd best defenseman are gone for the season.

This team CAN win games, but it would be better with a little help

Hate to do this but I'm actually sitting on some interesting information that I've been asked to hold off on.

Hope to be able to share tomorrow or Monday.
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0 #38 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-02 18:07
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting conor_smythe:
Chirp, you've got to toss us a bone here, which teams have you heard the senators are in contact with regarding a serious trade?

My estimated timeline for Bryan Murray has him making a move within a week. Especially if we lose again

I don't think it would be considered a panic move when your best forward and 2ñd best defenseman are gone for the season.

This team CAN win games, but it would be better with a little help

Hate to do this but I'm actually sitting on some interesting information that I've been asked to hold off on.

Hope to be able to share tomorrow or Monday.


I hate you lol is it at least something that the majority of us would be happy about?
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+2 #39 SensChirp 2013-02-02 18:26
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting conor_smythe:
Chirp, you've got to toss us a bone here, which teams have you heard the senators are in contact with regarding a serious trade?

My estimated timeline for Bryan Murray has him making a move within a week. Especially if we lose again

I don't think it would be considered a panic move when your best forward and 2ñd best defenseman are gone for the season.

This team CAN win games, but it would be better with a little help

Hate to do this but I'm actually sitting on some interesting information that I've been asked to hold off on.

Hope to be able to share tomorrow or Monday.


I hate you lol is it at least something that the majority of us would be happy about?

Should clarify it's not an imminent move but rather something they are "exploring" or at least have "explored".
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-1 #40 Bellsey 2013-02-02 18:54
Does it involve Michalek and a couple of prospects for Perry?
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-1 #41 jakester 2013-02-02 18:55
Ian Mendes tweeted that he was aware of some juicy info. Is it anything that has been hinted about around here?
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+1 #42 SensChirp 2013-02-02 18:58
Quoting jakester:
Ian Mendes tweeted that he was aware of some juicy info. Is it anything that has been hinted about around here?

When was the Mendes tweet?
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-2 #43 jakester 2013-02-02 19:12
I saw it this afternoon although he could've retweeted someone else's quote. Not to much into the new technology. I've been getting this feeling that Murray has been up to something. I get a pain in my left big toe(just kidding).
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-1 #44 jakester 2013-02-02 19:20
I found it but can't copy and paste it.

It said , what's up fellas, I've got a heckuva scoop!

Was 8 h ago. You can see it on James Gordon's twitter feed.
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0 #45 SensChirp 2013-02-02 19:25
Quoting jakester:
I found it but can't copy and paste it.

It said , what's up fellas, I've got a heckuva scoop!

Was 8 h ago. You can see it on James Gordon's twitter feed.

Ah yes. Believe that was a joke between Mendes and Gordon. Not based on an actual scoop.
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0 #46 jakester 2013-02-02 19:45
As I said I'm not up with the new technology and I can't tell when guys are joshing each other obviously lol. Thx for the clarification. Have a feeling Paajarvi is on the block and that that is the type of guy Murray and his scouting team would be salivating about. He's been lost in the shuffle in Edmonton. With our swedes I think he would blossom. But it could be anything. I do hope something materializes.Al though the team is doing great as is. You have to be extremely happy as a Sens fan.
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0 #47 jakester 2013-02-02 20:09
Watching the Bingo game boy that Derek Grant is good. Grant can really skate the ice .He's an NHLer for sure. Gryba what a moose. He's dominant. Still 6-7 really good prospects there(they're really missing Stone and Hoffman). 1-0 iceCaps in the 3rd.
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-3 #48 hq8 2013-02-02 20:52
Chirp, considering BM also alluded to something similar as what you are saying - its only becoming a bigger teaser now.

im going to take a guess at a name that was discussed multiple times in the past two seasons but has surprisingly not been mentioned even once since spezza's injury: Derrick Brassard???
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+2 #49 Sen Johns 2013-02-02 20:56
Just left the Bingo/Ice Caps game, 1-0 Ice Caps. Few thoughts from the game:

Derek Grant looked great

DaCosta had flashes, but looked soft

Lehner looks too good for the AHL. Made a lot of great saves while looking kinda bored

Reffing was terrible, Luke Richardson lost it a few times

Overall, not the best game. Lehner was our best player by far.

Counted about 10 of us in Sens jerseys. Go Sens Go!
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-2 #50 jakester 2013-02-02 21:01
Hq8

That's another guy that would interest the Sens I'm sure. I had forgotten about him.
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-1 #51 hq8 2013-02-02 21:02
weiss is UFA at the end of season.
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-1 #52 hq8 2013-02-02 21:03
Quoting jakester:
Hq8

That's another guy that would interest the Sens I'm sure. I had forgotten about him.


yea same here. he was linked to ottawa numerous times consistently leading upto the turris trade
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+3 #53 hq8 2013-02-03 00:46
ok so is anyone watching Ray Emery right now?
man what a performance against a thundering CGY team. He is literally stealing this game for Chicago - if chicago wins, the team needs to buy emery dinner for the rest of the season. Chicago is literally just flat flat flat. not even 20 shots on net all game.

happy to see an ex-senator who had a great part in taking this team to the cup final perform like he really can.
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0 #54 hq8 2013-02-03 00:47
Emery: 45 saves on 47 shots - tied going to shootout against CGY......DAMN.
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+2 #55 57gord 2013-02-03 02:23
Stay the course a little longer.........
Leafs suck!
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-3 #56 Tcharger 2013-02-03 09:22
I still think getting rid of Emery was a mistake.

Come on 2 oclock...need to get some hockey in before the big football game!
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-1 #57 jakester 2013-02-03 10:32
Maybe Couturier can be swiped out of Philly. They need a goalie bad cuz Bryzer sucks. I see them eventually buying Bryzgalov out. What a bad contract that was. Couturier could slide into the 3rd slot once Spezza would come back. The future would be set.
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