Andre Petersson went through a rocky season last year in Binghamton.
After a slow start, and some off ice distractions, Petersson was able to put together an impressive rookie season in Bingo, racking up 44 points in 60 games and even earned a one game call up with the big club.
With a number of players approaching and some cases ready to pass him on the organization’s depth chart, Petersson needs to have a big camp this fall if he’s going to grab a spot with the Senators. If not, he’ll be counted on to provide some veteran leadership on what will certainly be a young Binghamton team under first year head coach, Luke Richardson.
There have been rumours swirling that suggest Petersson may be considering a return to Sweden next year but that is all speculation for now.
Petersson was a fourth round selection for the Senators back in 2008 and has developed into a legitimate prospect. There is no denying Petersson’s talent level. He has an NHL skill set and is pretty close to a level where he can play in the NHL every day.
During the chalk talk session I attended with BSens associate coach, Steve Stirling, he talked about Petersson on a couple of occasions and specifically mentioned some of the difficulties he had “adjusting” to the North American game and life in Binghamton.
What happens with Andre Petersson will be something to watch closely this off season and moving forward.
- Sens forward Kaspars Daugavins is scheduled to go to arbitration on July 24, 2012. I would be surprised to see a resolution between the two sides before that date.
- News of the Chris Neil extension broke earlier this week but today the Ottawa Senators made it official, signing Neil to a three year contract extension. Neil is entering the final season of his current deal.
Hopefully AP can have a great camp and solidify a spot on the big club roster. Having an embarrassment of riches when it comes to young talent is never a bad thing!
I wouldn't be against that at all.
He will be the + in any deal moving forward this year
We want nash? MZ, 1st + Peterrson
We want Bouwmeester? How about Greening + Petersson
We want a future 2nd round pick? + Petersson
Not a knock on him but he is expendable and is a good enough asset to push a good offer into a great offer as he is a NHL ready prospect
Would be surprised?
I doubt they let it got to arbitration since they'd be "stuck" with him.
I'd expect that they make a Q4Q trade before then, maybe even including Daugavins. Though I think if they could make NHL12 trades they'd want to keep Daugavins, Condra and O'Brien as their utility guys (4th line or spare) and thin out some other forwards to make room.
Clearly they'd trade Butler for anything at all.
"It’s not just fighting — the Senators need to be more physical, overall. They need to finish their checks more, as well as answer the bell when it rings. Many feel that Ottawa was able to stage so many third-period comebacks last season partly because opponents knew that if they ran up the score, they’d take a beating from Neil, Konopka or Carkner."
Quite possibly the finest piece of writing from the Ottawa Sun in years
wow
Well not if they walk away from the ruling.
Even if he can beat out Regin, Butler, Condra and Daugavins, which he probably should be able to, they're all on 1way contracts which still leaves him as the odd man out.
It's sad to say, but I think Murray should clarify where he sees this guy in his plans, because I just don't see them having left an opportunity for him.
The salary that Daugavins would have to be awarded for the club to be able to walk away is pretty high and unlikely to be met.
Agreed. He's part of the "quantity" that I think would bring back some good "quality". And we've got guys ahead of him or ready to pass him (Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Noesen, Hoffman, Stone etc).
It's embarrassing that that assclown is even considered a journalist. I will never pick up a Sun paper because of him and blowfish Garrioch.
How does that work exactly? Arbitration process is always something I've known fairly little about.
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
I can't stand Brennan. His opinions are so stupid and out of line. Garrioch has his shortcomings, but Brennan is a joke.
Yeah that's how I understand it too. Nobody seems to know for sure but what I've read indicates that he'd need to be awarded over $1.5M for the Sens to have the option to walk away. Could be wrong of course but I still think they'd want to get something done before - either make room or sign-and-trade.
Check out this article:
http://www.the6thsens.com/2012-articles/july/daugavins-arbitration-qualifying-questions.html
Not sure if they're right of course, but seems fairly well researched.
Just reading that now. Thanks!
Bryan Murray says he had a good conversation with Alfie. Still no decision from the captain @CTVNews
WTF? Getting impatient here. LOL
I'm going to assume that he's actually sort of decided but for whatever reason they want to hold off on announcing. Maybe they're working on an extension (or buy-out and resign if that's actually legal) and want to announce it all together??
Count me in the camp of people that thought people were highly over estimating butlers production for last season. With that said, as most people know, it's very common for guys to run into a sophmore slump and it's entirely possible that he bounces back this year. His level of talent is NHL caliber and i think his fate will likely depend on what he did in the offseason to get better (stronger)...
ultimately, we have quite a few young guys that could have breakout years which would ultimately offset some of the regression that we may see with Michalek, Karlsson, Alfredsson etc.
guys that i think "COULD" (could being I'm saying there's a chance...) have breakout seasons include;
Regin, Latendresse, Turris, Silfverberg, Petterson, Butler, Hoffman, Smith
I'm sure lots of people want to add in Stone and Zibby but I think they are ideally suited to a full season in the AHL. time will tell...
If the team takes a step forward this year then awesome, if they take a step back I'm ok with that as well either way I think were on the right track from a rebuild perspective.
Meh lol
we will reach the floor with or without him. We have the prospects to fill his spot should he retire. if he comes back then we have prospects that could use Bingo time
Give it time, we really are in no rush, since regardless what he decides I doubt there is a causation effect to it in terms of Murray trading/FA
Definitely working on an extension of some kind although I would be surprised if that's what is holding this up. Really likes keeping us in suspense.
He'll be back.
point A - who are these many?
point B - as stated before it's difficult to beat people up from the press box
point C - Colorado are clearly a team of hard men because they didn't seem to be too worried by caning us 7-1 in our own building
point D - just to be straight on this in my own head, he thinks people stopped trying against us because they would be scared of going 3 or 4 goals up against us?
point E - beating a team by 4 goals isn't running up the score, beating them by 6, 7 or 8 is.
What reason does he have to come back ?
Cup- No this team is not even close
Money - Made alot over his career
Contract - This is the 1 million dollar retirement clause year
I don't know too many guys that would come back to be a mentor without a chance to win the cup
We toss him on the top line with spezza and maybe spez will kick start his career, am I right?
The sad thing is, with this organization right now you don't know if Im being sarcastic or not
You're clearly not thinking of Alfie. He's not going to need money, a sweet contract or even a guaranteed cup to come back.
It's 100% about him "feeling it" when he's training. If he has the drive to want to be an elite player he'll be back.
Just would like to point out that Alfie's contribution to our cap number this coming season cannot change - at all. Unless they are actually able to buy him out and sign him to another deal (in which case his current $4.875M cap hit STAYS and his new contract would be added to it). His contract is 35+.
(I know you know this Alcatraz - just clarifying for "the naive".)
There's a good writeup on it here, but pretty much if he's awarded about 1.46mil or more then the Sens should be able to walk away, if it's less (which is most likely) they have to accept it.
http://www.the6thsens.com/2012-articles/july/daugavins-arbitration-qualifying-questions.html
Who cares what Don Brennan writes?
"IMO you come off as an ass here!
Brennan wrote an article and it was opinion based, just like all your stat filled posts it doesnt make a difference with what happens on the ice. The fact that you need to use your blog here to slam him tells me more about you as a person than your article tells me about Brennan the writer. Brennan was on the Team 1200 this morning and he seems to be a good guy, a bit sarcastic with a dry sense of humour much like his articles. I don't take the man serious but I get the impression that he doesnt take himslef serioulsy either.
Why don't you spend more time putting together stats than bashing credited journalist no matter how bad or silly you think their material is. Don is actually in the room every day with the players, have you ever been to a game in Ottawa let alone actually met one of the players?
Don Brennan writes for the Ottawa Sun you write for Eklund, who has the better job? That is the real question."
it came to me....
We could really step our game up and
reach the floor if we packaged Turris and
Silfverburg for Gomez and a 4th.
Thoughts?
THE DUMBEST THING IVE EVER HERD IN MY LIFE!
Well to be honest I dont know which one is best, obviously Sun pays more I think but both are useless sports information.
Would be amazing but i doubt Marc Bergevin accepts this trade if we don't put Zibanejad in the package!! Lol
Gomez!!! Poor Habs Fans......
Quoting hamany:
some of you bring up a real good point about wanting to see hoffman here and even petersson and now that i think about it, i too hope both stone and zibby go to bingo for the season and let petersson hoffman battle for a spot and leaving latendresse regin butler greening compete for a top 6 role for atleast the start of the year until about 1/4 of the season before major changes are made.
maybe we have our top 6 forward right under our nose, we just keep looking too far and not realizing it.
edit: didnt include silfv or ceci on that list.. my point exactly.
Yikes. Part of the reason why I never get into the critiques of other people's work. The job the pros do is a lot harder than it looks.
Also, while attributing comebacks to team toughness is a stretch, many (Yost included) are really underselling the importance of guys like Carkner and Konopka on this team last season.
Yup because 3 prospect goalies is just what every team needs lol
I'd imagine a bishop+petterso n+2nd would get it done, but it would be pointless.
Although I agree with you to some extent, Carkner and konopka really didn't play enough games to make an impact. Carkner barely played and Konopka was barely used. The grit and intimidation factor helped alot, and it probably did make our players play with more of a chip, I won't deny that tho
After a trade like that I'd even entertain trading Anderson in the offseason or at the deadline to help us get that top 6 forward.
I would agree, but LA will want a top prospect in return, and we don't want to sacrifice a high end prospect for a position we are already strong at prospect wise (relatively)
I have no love for Yost but I can confirm that Brennan is indeed an asshole. No real need for Yost to try and bash Brennan and the comeback posted here is basically bang on, but Brennan is anything but a nice guy.
Most of you will recall the email exchange I had with him that I posted here for the amusement of follow Chirpers.
POs are a different beast, other guys (cowen neil smith greening methor borocop) will have to really step up and show they have a 2nd gear of physical play then.
Yeah I can also vouch for this... Brennan is a giant jackass. Huge asshole in person. I played Baseball in a league against him... Guy is a whiney miserable jackass
I haven't really seen any NHL media cover this topic yet
Using an entire (lengthy!) blog to dump on a Brennan column looks bad. Like it or not Hockeybuzz is a pretty big platform when it comes to online hockey talk and that post makes Yost look petty and small time.
Save the hatchet jobs for your own personal Tumblr or better yet The Sun's comments section.
I agree that team toughness could be an issue and don't think Brennan was that off the mark with many of his points but that comment of "many" believing that was why we were able to come back so often was just ridiculous.
I don't think it was the threat of Carkner and Konopka that stopped teams being ahead by 5 goals all the time, it was more to do with Anderson consistently bailing us out for terrible first period after terrible first period.
The other teams weren't scoring goals, but they sure as hell were creating chances.
ESPYS are stupid, there is a reason they never cover the UFC and i dont think they cover the NHL much.
i mean if it was serious dont you think karlsson would have been atleast considered as one of the nominees as breakout athlete of the year?
and floyd being fighter of the year is also a joke..anderson silva anyone?
I think Yost had some great points because Brennan's article was a bit riduculous. The tone Yost used was too personal though and made himself look pretty petty.
On the one hand, we lost 2 of the best fighters in the league that can also contribute a bit elsewhere.
On the other hand, we still have Smith and Neil who can definitely fight, Greening and Methot who could help if needed and Cowen who can definitely become as physical as they want him to be.
Also if Borocop joins the team we all know he'll do anything for the team, and though not a fighter, Latendresse will provide some physical presence.
I don't think it's ideal, but I also don't think it's as bleak of a situation as some (*cough* Brennan *cough*) say.
Exactly, there is one thing to use stats to back up your own opinion (regardless if its right or wrong) then its another thing to go out of your way to "disprove" someone elses opinion which did not include you at all
Hasek met with Ruff and Reghier today about his hopes of joining the team
Enroth must be furious lol
Really? I expect Tookie will step up to that challenge!
Can't be more than a career 4th liner, right?
In other news, this is a fun video of hockey highlights meshed with soccer commentary... Spezza's goal is the best.
sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/watch-five-minutes-hockey-highlights-brilliantly-synched-soccer-195518622--nhl.html
Didn't LA and Quick both win something?
Quick won hockey player of the year and LA won underdog team of the year
these are the kinda signings that make Dale Tallon a great GM. It seems like whoever he brings into the fold flourishes
Yeah no doubt, the ESPY's are a joke, how the hell does Floyd beat out Silva....I mean come on man.
Konopka is not even the 200th best fighter in the league. He's willing to drop the gloves and I'm not saying he's not tough, but he never "fights" - he just grapples.
But I agree that our overall team toughness can make up for these guys leaving by everyone stepping up just a little bit. Remember, neither were regulars but I'm sure the fact that we had Carkner in the press box made some teams think twice about running around in case we dressed him the next time we played that team.
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He is average at best.
Oh and yost is an assclown.. you glad he isn't here yet Chirp?
Letting Carks and Konopka go sucked in some ways 'cause they were popular but the opportunity cost was waaayyy to high to keep them at the cap hit and term they were going for (esp. considering where the club is in it's development). This is a club with excellent management and scouting. Replacing (to an extent) what those guys brought will be their responsibility and, let's face it, it's not a huge task...it's already half done if you ask me ...with the added bonus of bringing in a local boy (Methot) who will add some very positive vibes to the club next year. That extra 1 mil we have in cap room the next 2-3 years because of this decision will be very good for us ...nothing crazy but it gives the management that much more flexibility to make decisions, patch holes, seize other FA/trade opportunities.
As to Neil, giving him this contract is a clear vote of endorsement esp. with K and C gone. This is purely his gig now and he is being asked to bringing up his game even further with this deal. I think it is great because if anything, the Nealer is a guy who rises to challenges. I'm a huge fan.
Hell of a writer and works incredibly hard at what he does. That said, we just seem to have a generally different approach to things. Perhaps that would have made his contribution to the site all the more significant? We'll never know haha
Yeah I agree Chirp. I have no idea why people feel the need to bash Yost here, I'll occasionally read what he has to say, offers a pretty fresh stats heavy view on things. I'm still SC 4 Life though.
You should earn opportunity, its not handed to you on a silver platter simply because your older or put in X number of years in the AHL.
He needs to work so hard that BM can't possibly send him down. Force his hand instead of asking for a handout.
If BM sees the dedication and persistence, he will move a veteran to make room.
well yes, some one has to win nhl player of the year, i think crosby won the last 4 years. and it just happened that LA set a record this year for winning as an 8th seed, respectable by all sports obviously.
NHL rarely wins awards other their 1 category not that it really matters but i just feel they dont give all the sports a fair or equal respect.
The best part of that comment is that the sports section in the SUN has more journalistic integrity than any other section in the SUN. If those two idiots keep people from reading the BS contained in that paper, I will sleep better at night.
Sorry all, I meant no offense to you, I'd never compare you to those two.
Don't be rediculous. Of course you will. It's a measily quarter during the week. :)
Besides, you think the quote is serious?? Don't know if many of you have seen his picture, but it is hard to take the man serious in anything he says.
However, poeple like to crap all over Garrioch, but mostly he is doing his job, which is reporting on rumours and such. You all think he is full of it. Maybe. But, he does do a good job of reporting facts, certainlty when it comes to contract details exctera. I have absolutely no issue when Senschirp references or talks to an article written by either Brennan, or Garrioch.
A blogger who shall remain nameless, although I predict that everyone will know of whom I am speakling, has absolutely no journalistic cred, but purports to report on all the "backdoor" talk which never makes it to press.
Garrioch doesn't report on the "backdoor" chatter unless there really is fire where there is smoke. Take it as you will.
Would I put Garrioch in the same class as Wayne Scanlan: absolutely not. But, I don't shit on him for doing his job, or expressing his opinion.
KJ
The Dawg is back for about $750K. AP and the Dawd will show better than the kids at camp...#60 and #93 will start in Bingo. #33 depends on how much confidence they have in old Number 13? Note: The Murrays and Coach Paul love experience they just don't have a whole lot on the team right now.
I find Brennan interesting...h e can sure get to you guys!
don't know what to think, they obviously know more than me.
Living in Binghamton would be a nightmare, I have worked in small towns for an extended period of time, ready to pull your hair out after a week or two, would not blame him one bit if he went back to Sweden.
If he is not traded, if he is not in Ottawas plans why not move back to Sweden.
It is not like there will be more room next year.
getting a call up in the regular season on a insanely crowded bottom 6, to me doesn't show that we are not high on him..
he was a 4th rounder, he is ment to develope slow, dont think there should be a reason to hype him up over say a 1st or 2nd rounder no?
Fair enough...I guess. Dude...
You always have the most interesting opinions...
Agree Canucnik. I am really curious how 'old' #13 will show at training camp. Kid's gotta stay healthy. :)
I do believe #33 will make it out of camp though.
Because the Citizen has professional writers who express well thought out educated opinions. Where as Brennen just writes articles to feed to the mouth breathers. He thinks he's a combination of Don Cherry and Earl McRae.
We do know that you're boring.
D+
I hear you David. We could even try a Q4Q trade by trading Stone, Silfverburg, Michalek, Zibby and a 1st to the Wild for Konopka and Heatley. Get some toughness back and that scoring touch.
Since Burke says he won't be adding a young netminder like Bernier to his roster. It looks like the goalie he's been waiting for all this time has just showed up. The 47 year-old Stanley Cup veteran Dominik Hasek is looking for a comeback with a multi-year deal and an original six team.
I think I would be shits and giggles for a week if that happened
I didn't realise my logon got me free access to Flyerschirp as well.
Hahaha agreed, I still can't believe it is the real asshat...which means he has a want to be asshat...odd
Although really if Philly isn't that into it and Ana really wants a 2C I hope Murray is at least kicking tires and saying something along the lines of
Zibby
1st
for
Ryan
I wouldn't give up Turris, and I doubt Ana would listen to anything without a base of Turris/Zibby(an d I think Zibby is likely pushing it)
My gut tells me that solutions on Nash, Luongo, Ryan, et al. won't get done until closer to training camp. It sucks cause I'm in hockey withdrawal.
I doubt BM does much on the trade front until the prices lower, or the season has already started.
I tend to agree...you will see situations turn into Heatley with the player either showing up and becoming a cancer, or just not showing up(although out the that bunch I don't think they will just hold out)
* Alex Semin will likely be the domino to fall when Doan's decision is made. Pitt, NYR, NJ, and Detroit are all in Semin.
all in Semin!! That's gross. lol
no wonder those teams seem to be stuck together
I get so excited just thinking about the upcoming season even though it's 3 months away. I'm keeping my expectations fairly realistic. I think we'll be in a battle for the final three playoffs spots along with 6 or 7 other teams.
Anyway just for fun I wanted to see what everyone's predictions are for the 2012-2013 season. I know we'll likely do this closer to when the season actually begins but there isn't a whole lot to talk about these days.
Here are mine:
Spezza - 32 g, 51 a, 83 pts
Karlsson - 22 g, 53 a, 75 pts
Turris - 26 g, 31 a, 57 pts
Michalek - 31 g, 23 a, 54 pts
Alfie - 19 g, 27 a, 46 pts
Silfverberg - 21 g, 20 a, 41 pts
Latendresse - 20 g, 16 a, 36 pts
Smith - 17 g, 14 a, 31 pts
Gonchar - 6 g, 25 a, 31 pts
Greening - 12 g, 18 a, 30 pts
Those are my top ten. Anyone else?
I can see your point. It's like all of Ecklund's posts are focused on Semin lately. "Toronto loves Semin", "Pittsburgh needs Semin to put them over the edge" "Detroit thinks Semin and Datsyuk go well together"
Come on Ecklund, how much Semin are we supposed to take?!
I don't do stats predictions, but I'd be ecstatic if your's came true.
In reality it's unlikely everyone stays as healthy this year as last. I sense a slight stats regression from Spezza, Michalek and Karlsson. But I do see Turris having a breakout year for us. IMO he could still be our true star in the making.
I know the Sens will not try to grab him, but Jonathan Bernier said on Laval News he really dream about playing in Ottawa for three reasons:
- Close to his family (Laval, Quebec)
- Real hockey town
- Nice city
Sounds like some players enjoy more Ottawa than Rick Nash!
Has he gone on record and said that? If so, where.
I would trade a fair bit for Bernier, despite our current depth at the goalie position. He is gonna be a stud, maybe even more so than Cory Schneider or Lehner. It never hurts to have a Quick/Rinne rather than a Reimer/Bobrovsk y goalie prospect.
I thought it was more about him wanting a 1 way contract -- not a 2-way. I think it's not all about the salary.
think the the Kings will be trading Bernier
now or in the near future. His trade value is
extremely low at the moment.
Pick him up well he's going for scraps.. Lol.
Tim Panaccio of CSN Philly : Flyers Scott
Hartnell is entering the last year of his 6
year, $25.5 million deal.
“Scott would welcome coming back; he
loves it in Philadelphia,” his agent, Matt
Oates, said. “But we haven’t had any
contact with the Flyers just yet.”
Hartnell is coming to Ottawa. "Suck it Phaneuf"!