In his season ending address to the media, Sens GM Bryan Murray talked about the need to add an additional goal scorer to the team’s top six forwards.
In that same address, he talked about forward Nick Foligno. Sens management has challenged Nick Foligno to be that top six forward he clearly has the potential to be. A restricted free agent, the 24 year old Foligno is coming off a season where he racked up 47 points in 82 games.
Foligno also finished third on the team in hits with 196 and third in penalty minutes with 124. Despite his rambunctious style, Foligno has played in every game over the past two seasons. While Foligno is a player that often leaves Sens fans wanting more, he has definitely taken steps in the right direction over the last couple seasons.
After a season where he was a -19 and had just 34 points, Foligno took his game to another level this year and provided the team with some much needed secondary scoring. Foligno made a concerted effort to get to the so called "dirty areas" and became the type of player that really agitated other team's defenders and goalies.
And while we’ve seen flashes of what Foligno can do over the past couple seasons, consistency remains his biggest issue. It’s clear that the organization would like to Foligno to take that next step and be a consistent member of the team’s top six forwards.
Foligno is coming off the second year of a 2 year deal with a cap hit of $1,200,000. He made $1,550,000 this past season and will be looking for a raise on that number during contract negotiations this off season.
Depending on the term, somewhere between $2 and $3 mil seems like a realistic number to peg Foligno at next season.
Where do you see Foligno slotting in next year? What type of contract would you like to see Foligno get this off season?
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Eh? Wasn't that announced at the end of April?
I just saw something on Twitter that led me to believe it was the official announcement. My bad.
I'd love to see a 4 year deal in the $8-9M range (though it might creep over $10M). I think when you have a player that's developing slowly but steadily a longer deal tends to take just enough pressure off for them to finally come into their own.
It's a risk of course as he may not get better but I think there's enough proof over watching him play that he'll continue to work hard and improve.
Having said all that, it's based mostly on the assumption that some of his negatives this year (the goalie interference calls) are a result of him being told to push the envelope. I'm certain that Murray and MacLean have told Foligno to keep going to the net and the other dirty areas and play with an edge but to learn where the line is. Like everything else in his career, Nick is taking a bit longer to learn than we'd all like but I think he IS learning and in another year or two will be the Ryan Smyth or Holmstrom type of player that we'll be very glad we have.
I think, ideally, he's a third line player who's playing well enough to play on the second line (but that our top two lines are hopefully full of legit top 6 guys). A Sens team in two or three years where Foligno is our gritty third line power forward would be a very good team indeed.
Sell high.
My opinion is that we may have seen the best of Nick Foligno and he'll probably level out at this range of production and contribution for his career. I don't really have any statistics to back this up, its just a gut feeling based on the inconsistency of his actual production. This guy is a player that goes hard almost all the time and cares about winning, but I get this feeling that he won't do much more beyond that with regards to actual point production.
Five or six years ago I'd say we'd have to keep a guy like this, but now Ottawa is full of gutsy players (Greening, Smith, Neil) and we need to strike a better balance on the finesse/skill side. We also need to make room for some of these prospect forwards to crack the line-up and having a $3 million guy playing on the second line producing 15 goals or a $3 million guy playing on the third line just doesn't make good hockey or financial sense (even with the cap space we have).
He may be a good piece to help bring back a reasonable shut-down defenceman.
...All that said, if they do re-sign him and he plays the way he has I'll still cheer for him because of the effort he puts in. And hopefully I'll have to eat my words and he'll produce at a better pace and continue to develop.
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Whenever he is on the 2nd line people will complain that he doesn't produce enough to be a bona fide 2nd liner and when he's on the 3rd line and playing 3rd line minutes people will complain about the money he makes.
The sens look to have a whole host of prospects who project to be more likely to maintain a second line presence than Foligno.
There's no doubt that his production increased last year and he looked to be making significant strides in his game but he continues to have periods where he is completely invisible apart from a knack of taking unfortunate penalties. Whilst I am sure that many of the penalties are primarily the result of taking direction from the coaches to be more involved they can be bothersome.
At some point prospects such as Puemple, Noesen, Silfverburg, etc are going to replace Foligno in the pecking order and what he does in the next two years will determine his future as a senator.
If he shows enough during his next contract he will have a long term place on the senators 3rd line but if he regresses he's nothing but trade bait.
IMO Murray will sign him for 3 yrs at about $3 mil per yr. Afterall, you also need guys to protect all the little Swedes this team keeps drafting. I think he starts the yr on the 2nd line LW playing with Turris & Alfredsson & if someone else does take that spot it only makes our team better having a 47 pt producer on the 3rd or 4th line. The more scoring throughout the lineup the better.
P.S. - I think they start the yr with Regin as the 3rd line centre, however if he were to get hurt thye might consider moving Foligno into that spot or put Z. Smith back there.
So Foligno FTW!
If they move him for someone like Bogosian I wouldn't have a problem with it. We would have to throw something else in, but Winnipeg has several D prospects ready for NHL duty. Postma and Negrin are sure to get some playing time this year, and Bogosian will be #3 on their depth chart due to Enstrom and Big Buff. Winnipeg needs more scoring up front and Foligno is a great team guy. I don't want to lose him, but solidifying our D is more important than loyalty at this point. It would be a business decision.
I think it is becuase even if you're a critic (that's me) you still like the guy alot. He is the quintessential team player and you can never critizice his work ethic. But he has 0 hockey sense and that hurts him big time. I completely agree with Montaque's post. He can bring in that NHL Defenseman we need right now but I agree his value won't get any higher. I have a hard time believing he will ever top his 47 points this season. If the deal is there, take it.
But if not, and he stays and signs for 2-2.5M I'd be happy with him as a bottom 6 contributing 35ish points per year playing safe minutes. I wouldn't put him out in ANY critical situations though.
Whats best for teh SENS is what I want.
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Buffalo's 12th overall pick
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I am not his biggest fan, but think letting him go for nothing is a huge mistake, and if fans accept that he will be an above average third liner,who can play wing/C,and a bit of second line minutes when needed he will be embraced(I know that's my plan for next season)
Fisher was/is one the league's best PK guys - that's why he got paid more than Foligno probably ever will.
Still agree Fisher was at the high end in terms of pay for value but that's the key difference so many aren't apparently seeing between the two players.
He may never develop the be the offensive threat worth keeping on a top 6, but even now he'd be an above average 3rd liner, which is exactly where he will end up a few years down the road when our talented young prospects are fully intergrated.
He's a shifty, gritty, team first kind of guy and has decent hands. You find a way to make room for guys like that. I agree with what some have alluded to already, a 2-2.5/per season 3-4 year deal would be great value for a player of his caliber.
The thing I like about Nicky is if push come to shove and someone else bounces him off for that second line spot, Nick also contributes on the third line.
I also thought he was good in the playoffs. In the first two games he was like a bat out of hell I couldn't believe this was the Foligno we had.
I would like to see him penciled in for more than two years to be honest, like what Hax said.
Sometimes our perception of players get skewed by how many years he has been in the league and we forget that these are still young guys. Foligno is younger than Condra and Greening, yet he already has 350 games and 150 points under his belt - while developing into what he is today.
Trading him now would be foolish, in my opinion.
This is very true. Nicky's only played 28 games in the AHL in his career. I wonder what it would have done for him if he spent 1 or 2 seasons.
Every team scout tried to convince BM at last year's draft to trade Foligno
I pray he listens this year
No way is worth 2M per year
He did improve coming into this season.. and there is still room to do so.
I would not give him over a 3 yr contract. Sooner or later.. some of these guys on the Sens will be pushed out by the prospects drafted last year.. in about 3 or 4 yrs..
Speaking of Fisher.. there was a very good interview with him and Carrie with Oprah.. (yeah I know Oprah). Fisher is a man of great character and class... seeing him in that interview.. made me realize how much I still miss him in Ottawa... You can't help it when you see those eyes (that's the female in me talking -- LOL)....
Sign him 3 years 2.1 cap hit . versatile player winger and centre .. personally like him at centre
47 points is a decent year in today's NHL, and some of our stats people I am sure can vouch that 47 points for 1.5 mil is better than the going rate.
Also he did not play very much 2nd line minutes, if I recall correctly, he played there before Turris got here, and for a short bit played with Alfie and Turris, which I felt was one of our strongest lines, then for whatever reason he was once again moved down to the 3rd line, where he then played that role well too.
I would be inerested to see where his point totals would have ended up had he stayed with Alfie and Turris?
Yes he does has some faults, biggest one to me is that he will stickhandle himself to the point he dekes himself out... a few times if he kept his head up he would have made the easier pass, but that is all part of being young and developing.
Sign him up to between 2-3 Mil on a 3 year deal, and let him play on the 2nd line and he will be more than fine... IMO of course
Foligno was a late first rounder, and 4 years after being drafted is developing rather nicely (compare him to Turris point totals if you will)
Now we want to move him to make room for noesen/puemple/ stone who are all "newer" prospects without the 4 year seasoning that Foligno has had.
at 2 mill even 2.5 mill a year he is worth it. 0.5ppg, could get 20goals, plays a game that not many of our forwards are able to do.
If he becomes a line 2.5 type player for the rest of his career its still a good thing. Every team needs those types of players, and Foligno brings lots of intangibles to the table
Hartnell leads the NHL by far in getting snowed up. He took over for Cheechoo as the guy you can always count on to hit the ice once per shift.
Foligno is actually decent on his skates but he does go to extremes all the time which sees him crashing the boards or ice often. I don't think it's a lack of skating skill as much as it's him pushing the envelope all the time.
Stone out of all of them will probably get to the NHL first... maybe halfway through the season.. but not from the outset.
Not every prospect drafted is going to jump right to the NHL...
Stone will start in Ottawa next year
...Pumepel Noeson will be in the OHL
..Prince will be in Bingo or back to the OHL as a overage player
So very true Alcatraz,
here we have a late round pick starting to develop, and we want to move him so something else unproven and new.
I am certain if he stays on the 2nd line, he will produce theose numbers we expect and want to see.
Those other kids are a good few years away.
One person that I am concerned with and did go backwards last year was Bobby Butler. I am not sure where he ends up this year
Other than paying him too much money and giving him too long a contract I think you're spot on.
What you also have to remember is Folingo wasn't expected to be one of our top scoring forwards, yet this year he's 5th on the Sens with 47 points and a 0.57 PtsPG. Not counting the 09-10 where he was limited to 61 games and 26 points, he's shown a steady increase from his rookie season over the past 5 season, which is what most players who continue to work hard hope to achieve.
Regardless of the line he's playing on, this is the kind of guy teams want. The guy who battles hard and earns his place. Too often teams are quick to move these kinds of players, only to realize soon after how much they are missed. Even more of a burn when said player ends up on a Stanley Cup winning team, and has a good part in it.
Yes and Chris Kelly comes to mind immediately,
So what if he gets penalties from time to time, at least he is involved in the play, usually those are from hard work or driving the net which is what we want our players to do. Don't you wish the floater Spezza would work as hard as Foligno? I would love to get a Bogosian type player but I would rather move Silfverberg to get him & not a heart & soul player like Foligno, these are the kind of players that win in the playoffs while the "elite players" tend to dissappear when the going gets tough.
New coach?
Clouston is back?
j/k
there is a good reason i say this.
lets look back at the last few cup winners.
boston had lucic and marchand, now i know both these guys are 30g scorer. but other than that, they are both very annoying to play against. and them scoring just stings even more.
chicago had troy brouwer or a much less ben eager.
penguins had matt cooke
wings had holmstrom/franz en
and for some reason, come playoff time, almost all these guys production seems to elevate. which really only makes sense since playoffs isnt about beauty goals anymore its all about being physical and chipping away crashing the net etc.
i also hope for z.smith to start filling that role. and it will be interesting to see how zib or noesen develope since they both have that typical power forward grit.
Its close
Digging but nobody I've talked to is sure what the announcement is. Seems a little quick for a new head coach unless they are promoting from within and going with Stirling.
The man is a gentleman and has been through a lot the past couple years. He was a terrific player and a good coach. It would be nice to see the organization reward him with the head coaching job.
It's also nice to see the reaction from most fans towards Nick Foligno. He's a good player with a lot to prove still. I'm a big fan and would like to see him start and end his career with Ottawa. But I still believe that Nicky has the ability to score 20 goals a year. It's just up to him to do it.
Going to read WAY too much into this,making space for an assistant coach in Ottawa?? So Richardson ...Alfie takes his place....God I hope I'm wrong.
Pure speculation on a VERY slow day...I expect the thumbs down lol
That would be somewhat logical but I hope you're wrong too.
Though if Alfie has decided "it's time" then may as well rip the band-aid off quick and move on.
No that's Milo.
You have to guess the correct order of the top 15 players in the draft and whoever predicts the most correct players and the order wins. Extra points if you predict #15 correctly
I second this
Whoever guesses the least gets the Craig Button award since his draft order is a joke!
In my opinion, if he does another summer of power skating, along with making smarter decision (aka stop dangling like Spezza) he could get the coaches trust and therefore play consistent 2nd line minutes. If we could sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal at around 2.5 I'd be very happy. A the very worse he'd be an extremely valuable 3rd liner that when called upon can play just about enywhere in the lineup. And if you look around the league, good teams have a couple guys on the 3rd making even more than 2.5.
I say definitely keep Foligno
BUT...and it's a big BUT!! We absolutely need a legit 1st liner to play with Spezza. None of our prospects are bonified 1st line guys. Parise or Nash. I don't care if we have to give up 2 or 3 prospects. We have plenty and will enevr use all of them
i agreed with you until your final paragraph about none of our prospects are bonified 1st line guys. i was not aware we have a future predictor on this forum.
you will be very shocked at how good some of our prospects will turnout. i am fully convinced that of all our prospects, noesen will be the best. we just will not see that for another 2years atleast.
and with the high hopes and expectations we all have from guys like zibanejad and silfverberg. it just has to mean atleast 1 of them will be a legit top line player.
That stream of consciousness was painful on the eyes to read but did contain some good points.
I would assume that by your last paragraph you mean "right now" as MoeDozer is right that we have about 5-6 guys who could be legit top line guys - bound for one or two pan out in a few years time.
He has no clue where his line mates are since he skates like a beer leaguer with his head down
The Sens have tried to get him to get his head up but he still skates bent over
You: Profound wisdom and incredible insight!
Me: Sarcasm
Neil, Smith, Foligno, Greening, Winchester... those are they type of guys you need in the bottom 6. You also need penalty killers like Condra... and if he comes back.. Kelly. Read on TSN or somewhere else.. that Boston may not have the cap space to sign him. He will probably get a pretty big payday... question is.. will it be with Ottawa.
I think the Sens major need right now is a shutdown defenseman... Saw in an article that Carolina says Bryan Allan is going to July 1st as a UFA. What would he be worth? -- Just saw he is from Kingston.. would Ottawa be one of his choices should they go that way?
Just rumoured at this point. Will keep digging for something more concrete.
Say it ain't so. Praise Alfie!
Wasn't Luke just part-time with the big club? I don't think he held down an official coaching slot (i.e. special teams or something) did he?
Not sure if that would make it less likely or more likely that it's making room for Alfie though.
I certainly don't think they'd push Luke into the Bingo job just to make room for Alfie though.
Getting a shot at a head coaching gig isn't really pushing him away though...althou gh I do agree. I'm not sure what his official title was before his unfortunate incident. Or after it
On Foligno he is a tough player like others have said, I don't care if he is top 6 but he sure seems to fit well on the Neil line.
If he is traded to make us better I am also ok with that as well, no way we let him go for free.
I would however like to see him pass more, don't forget Foligno was the guy that got us some last second goals to win some games.
Florida ...if that's actually the case then taking Richardson s spot for Alfie makes a tonne of sense.
Update at the top of the post. As I suggested above, folks seem to think it will be Richardson that gets the job with Stirling as an assistant.
Still trying to confirm the speculation though.
Think I am reading too much into it?
I think (hope) so. Alfie's comments while at the World Championship seemed to indicate that while he would like to coach at some point, it's not something he's looking at in the near future.
Until he stands at a podium and says "I'm done" I'm expecting him to be playing next year.
@mpuempel Congrats to @DarrenKramer22 on signing with the #sens today #tuff #chlheavy
http://www.sportsjuniors.com/2012/05/culek-signe-a-ottawa/
I agree with everyone. I hope Alfie isn't done...but having had serious concussions in my past it can be a serious difference maker..especial ly with all the recent studies and scary findings in regards to them...health and being coherent and able to enjoy and have your family enjoy you has to be 100% tops in his mind. I know when I see all these football players wanting their brains studied for the tramua caused it scares me and I never played/competed at even close to a professional level.
I genuinely think that I still have residual affects of a concussion from about a decade ago....if not properly taken care of you seriously don't get over them.
Btw...big fan of Culek here. I've seen him play a few times and he's always been a very noticeable player on the ice, and in a good way ;)
If he has medical advice that tells him he's taking a significant risk of his quality of life after he does retire then he won't play next year. It will likely be hard to hang them us since he (clearly) can still play, but one more year isn't worth the risk (if it's significant) of serious damage to a husband and father of four.
I think if he's medically okay to play, he'll play.
Hey chirp anything to these rumors that its Mark Reed or Dave Cameron taking the job with Alfredsson taking a assistant role on Macleans staff with the big club !?!
Every time Penner scores I worry that Murray is going to want to sign him.
Gotta live the Kings twitter feed though:
LA Kings @LAKings
Pancakes for everyone! @DustinPenner25 with the game-winner.
Nope :)
My contact in Bingo was right. It will be Luke Richardson that gets the job. Great hire!
:)
Fine. Contact in Bingo with support from Tcharger's ramblings in the comment section :)
Any piece of news related to Ottawa we turn it into some subliminal message about Alfie wanting to retire
He has 1 year left on his contract and I would be very surprised he doesn't play it out
Alfie's contract is the first in the NHL that was front loaded to lower cap hit for those who are 35+ to come into factor
Knowing how Alfie is, and the position he has held within the NHLPA, I highly doubt he will retire with the only 1m year left, as it will send a horrible message and be an awful example heading into CBA negotiations
I don't think Alfie would want that hanging over his head that he circumvened the cap "cheated" the system. Its just not him. He has a year left, he will play it out
Now onto that gag order
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Halleluha,
Alfie was with all his injuries one of our best players.
He will be retiring soon... but just not next year. He has plenty ot offer, and there are plenty more players with more serious concussion injures than what was suffered by Alfie ie Booth in Vancouver.
He will take some time off, and talk to his familiy, and his boys will cry ( as will I )if he does not play one more year
Nuff said Alfie will be back... Book it!
I agree with this sentiment. I think the only exception might be if Alfie's doctors have serious concerns about what another concussion might do to his long-term health. If he's not really at any great risk then I think he'll play but if he's in a situation where doctors warn that one more concussion might seriously impact his post-career health I expect he might retire (and I'd support that of course).
As for the gag order - it's probably the biggest issue on Sens fans' minds right now so I don't think people will be able to hold off on speculating. Hopefully Alfie announces his intentions soon though so we can either celebrate or start to make our peace with his retirement.
I am not in anyway saying Richardsons position within the organization has any weight as to Alfies decision just that the opening of his position as one that would appeal to him may.
Agreed on the decision coming soon(just not too soon, as in to fill the void on our bench)....any time after they name a replacement for Richardson. LOL
I totally stopped posting it or paying attention that much following my disastrous second round.
While that might be true to a point, there is a difference between playing in the "nobody hits" worlds and a full NHL season against the likes of Wolski, Hagelin, Cooke (not so much anymore maybe) etc. But it's certainly a good sign that he played.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdKjFlfIL8Y
there were hits. suspensions, concussions. not NHL playoff nasty but hardly tame.
I couldn't help but think of all the times, since his arrival, I've seen him here. He spends a lot of time in Kanata, because I've ran into him at a few local eating establishments, a pub and the bank. And the strangest thing, there was a letter outside my mailbox addressed to a Mr Kyle Turris. I've seen his Escalade before, he doens't appear to live in my condo unit, because it isn't parked around me. So it's either a big mistake, or we have another Kyle Turris in Kanata. Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out.
As fans, who do you tend to run into the most from the Sens? Before Turris, I saw Neil and Alfie the most. Actually, I just saw Neil at the new Zak's Diner in Kanata, only a few days after they were eliminated.
The only time I've ever seen any sens out was years ago at Fathers and Sons. Neil and Redden were there. Must have been 10 years ago.
I could take this opportunity to pass on this little tidbit; My brother has a close friend who played with Silfverberg in Brynas last season. He told me his buddy was saying Silfverberg he is a really great guy, great attitude, down to earth and is "the real deal."
He still needs a head for it to hang over, you cant deny the factor the concussions have on 40 year old players. Its a huge factor and if he feels that its not worth the 1M to play and risk his future with his fam & kids.
Also the way things ended at the WC, you would have to think he's done, he couldnt win with a stacked team and hands on fav in his own country.
Bingo Asst Coach - Steve Sterling
Sens sign - Kramer & Culek
Hoffman - Da Costa - Petersson
Schneider - Cannone - Zibanejad
Culek - Grant - Stone
Kramer - Hamilton - Downing/Caporusso
Returned to junior as over agers - Prince & Pageau
Boroweicki - Wideman
Wiercioch - Gryba
Blood - Claesson
Lehner - UFA (possibly sign a Memorial Cup unsigned goalie)
Very rarely do prospects ever return to junior as overagers. Its probably the worst thing you can do for their development
Some of the comments on this site seem to be written by idiots.
Luke was never a full time assistant coach with the Sens so why would he becoming the Bingo Head Coach (WHICH HE WILL BE) have ANY impact on Alfie's plans to be a coach ??? Idiotic !
I really wonder whether any of you realize that the Sens used 16 forwards against the Rangers in the playoffs & that doesn't include Peter Regin. And 19 forwards played 9 games or more during the regular season.
You can not bring everyone back when you want to make room for several younger forwards like Silfverburg or Stone. It will not suprise me one bit if the Sens start the year with only 11 forwards on 1-way deals.
All the more reason to TRADE FOLIGNO NOW !
No Puempel or Noesen?
Thanks for coming out Bubba. Say hi to your cousin/wife for me.
Comes down to age both being 19 they will be sent back too OHL
No way that Pageau returns to junior, he's got nothing left to prove there and Murray said last summer that Pageau was already good to go in the AHL.
A CHL player can play in the AHL once his season is over regardless of age
A player who will be 20 before DECEMBER 31st of the Season can play in the AHL from the start of the season (or if the player has already played 4 years in the CHL which Puempel has not)
Since Puempel will be 20 in January, he can not start the season in the AHL next season or go there mid season... If his birthday was Dec 31st or sooner (2012) he could play full time in the AHL
It is either NHL or CHL for him
(This is in the CHL/NHL Transfer agreement)
So it all depends on age and 4 year term not only for Pumepel
Big Idiot(Bubba)... .it would have an affect on Alfie because he says coaching possibly take more time and attention than playing....hey look a part time gig he could try if he s decides to go that route.
1+1 =2 around here eh son?
Good info - so does that only apply to Puempel? I would assume that anyone eligible for the AHL among our top prospects will be there. And Puempel will get a shot in camp to steal a spot in the NHL (though he'd be a huge long shot).
I assume he's qualified, and the sens want him in bingo
Just my .02$
Not just Puempel ..I would have to go through there age and term too see but Puempel and Noeson are not allowed
He was only allowed cause his season was over
whooa Big Bubba,
whats with all the hostility.
Poor St Nick is merely making a small prognosis on what Bingo may look like next year, and it looks like Bingo will have quite the exciting team.
And you Blow a gasket... and I am not quite sure what your bitching about.
Ease up Cowboy, its a slow summer day, after a great year, and before a couple of better years for our Sens!
Pageau's birthday is 11/11 so that fits - he'd be eligible to play in the AHL.
You are right Hax..All Murray has to do is sign Pageau ..and Prince
Puempel, Noeson - 1993 (so Sens or Junior)
Pageau, Prince - 1992 (so would expect both in Bingo)
Yup they just need to be signed (Pageau and Prince)
Already signed for next season:
Forwards - Da Costa, Petersson, Hoffman, Cannone, Zibanejad, Schneider, Grant, Dzuirzynski, Culek, Hamilton, Caporusso, Cowick, Downing & Stone Kramer
Defence - Boroweicki, Wideman, Wiercioch, Gryba, Blood, Claesson
Still to be signed: Klinkhammer, Prince, Pageau
Having a career year is "nothing"? Being 5th in scoring behind the "big 4" is nothing? Man, tough crowd.
No one is saying he's a bona fide top 6 player, but look around the league at 24 year old players who score 45-50 pts... how many of them, in your wise opinion, are worth $2-3 million?
Well said,
just for the fun, I would like to see the people who have but up between 40-50 points last year, and see what the average salary was.
I am sure it is much more than the 1.5 mil we paid Foligno.
You sound like that Mike Bauer guy ... oh wait....
To EDM Gryba or Wiercoch
To Ottawa Linus Omark
i am a really big fan of this kid and i dont think edmonton really needs him anymore, i think he would be a great addition with zibby and silf going forward.