Monday, 05 March 2012 13:56

Prospect Report- Stone, Prince, Silfverberg

With the Ottawa Senators sitting in a fairly comfortable position in the Eastern Conference playoff picture, fans in the Nation's Capital have their focus directed towards the possibility of a return to the NHL playoffs this Spring.

And while the team has had some tremendous success at the NHL level, the deep prospect pool continues to shine both here in North America and in Europe.  In this blog we take a look at the breakout seasons being enjoyed by three prospects in particular- Mark Stone, Shane Prince and Jakob Silfverberg.

While names like Zibanejad and Lehner often steal the headlines, you really see the depth of the prospect pool when you look beyond those names and see the huge offensive numbers being put up by Sens prospects.

With Cory Clouston as his coach, Mark Stone of the Brandon Wheat Kings has had a dominant season in the WHL.  After a standout performance at the World Juniors, Stone has picked up right where he left off back in Brandon.  Stone currently sits fourth in league scoring with 108 points in just 60 games.  The knock on Stone has always been his skating but some of the people I talk to suggest he has already shown tremendous improvement in this aspect of his game.

As far as prospects go, Stone is the model for the rest of the organization.  A late draft pick, Stone has shown exactly what is possible with hard work and dedication.  He will push for a spot with the big club next year.

A second round pick last year, Shane Prince has been putting up huge numbers right here in the Nation's Capital with the Ottawa 67's. While Prince started the year a little slower than he would have liked, he has been on fire lately, including a recently snapped 20 game point scoring streak where he has racked up an absurd 21 goals and 17 assists.  Great thing about Prince is he's playing right in our own backyard.

As far as prospects go, I really feel like Jakob Silfverberg has the opportunity to best player in the Sens system right now.  Labeled as “NHL ready” at the start of this season, Silfverberg opted to spend another year in the Swedish Elite League and has made the most of it.  With 52 points in 48 games, Silfverberg leads his team in scoring and sits second in the entire league.  A strong skater with a wicked release, Silfverberg could make an impact at the NHL level as soon as next season. 

While this post shines a light on three bright prospects, they are only part of the terrific organizational depth the Sens have built.  Matt Puempel has 33 points in 30 games, Stefan Noesen has come on of late and now has 73 points in 58 games and Jean Gabriel Pageau has 63 points in just 43 games.

While the current season has been a pleasant surprise for the Ottawa Senators organization, it's pretty clear there are many good years to come.

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+1 #1 SwedishSens 2012-03-05 14:02
Now it's time too Rebuild our Defence like we did with the forwards this spring
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+4 #2 Shibal 2012-03-05 14:11
Interestingly Prince was ranked number 26 amongst North American skaters according to Central scouting rankings, ahead of Noesen and Puempel. Somehow he ended up 61st overall.

Just like Brad Richards became a steal being chosen 64th overall despite putting up amazing Junior numbers during his draft year.Hopefully Prince turns out to be a steal aswell.
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0 #3 The Apostle 2012-03-05 14:13
Is Prince eligible for the AHL next year or does he have to stay with the 67's?
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0 #4 Luke McQueen 2012-03-05 14:15
I agree, defense should be our focus this coming draft day. Anyone have a line on some of the beat D-prospects available this year?
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+3 #5 jakester 2012-03-05 14:24
Is it true Zibby is an option to join the SENS now?
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0 #6 Phoenix 2012-03-05 14:28
Defence and goaltending should be the focus. I'd start with goaltending because after Bishop and Lehner there is nothing. Murray should draft a top goalie for when those guys step up in the next year or two.
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0 #7 sensarmy 2012-03-05 14:28
When do we get to see what Bishop can do?
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0 #8 boom 2012-03-05 15:18
Quoting The Apostle:
Is Prince eligible for the AHL next year or does he have to stay with the 67's?

If I'm not mistaken he would have to return to Junior. I think that is the rule for any player with junior eligibilty remaining. The only time they can send a player to the AHL is when they are overage. This is something some NHL teams would like changed in the future. They feel that some players are too strong for the juniors, but could use some time in the AHL to get used to playing against men. They don't have that option right now. Obviously, the junior teams aren't thrilled with the idea...
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-4 #9 lbernier 2012-03-05 15:21
Quoting jakester:
Is it true Zibby is an option to join the SENS now?


I dont think so, I have never heard of this happening before but I could be wrong. I think he has to stay in North America to be eligible to play for Ottawa right now.
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+3 #10 lbernier 2012-03-05 15:23
Quoting Luke McQueen:
I agree, defense should be our focus this coming draft day. Anyone have a line on some of the beat D-prospects available this year?


Hometown Boy Cody Ceci looks like he will go somewhere between 10-20 in the draft this year so far, so he could be an excellent option for the Senators.
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0 #11 Ctea 2012-03-05 15:25
I remember watching Stone when he was first invited to the Sens development camp and I can tell you that his skating during the WJC was a huuuge improvement! This summer will do wonders for him if he plans on spending it in Ottawa with the Sens' power skating coach.

Will Stone and Silfverberg be eligible to play in the AHL? Our depth this year down there has gone down since the championship run. It'll be nice when we have a stronger team down there. Remember when Greening, Smith, and co. were called up? They barely missed a beat.
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0 #12 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-05 15:25
Plain and simple... after the 2 goal lead, the guys took their feet off the gas pedal. Really disappointing. I for one would like to see 'The Biship' start a game. A six foot seven goalie that can clear his own crease sounds pretty good to me. Still a fan of Lehner,would just like to see a Lehner-Biship tandom. On another note, maybe Turris should stop aiming for the iron.
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0 #13 HLSnake 2012-03-05 15:31
Quoting boom:
Quoting The Apostle:
Is Prince eligible for the AHL next year or does he have to stay with the 67's?

If I'm not mistaken he would have to return to Junior. I think that is the rule for any player with junior eligibilty remaining. The only time they can send a player to the AHL is when they are overage. This is something some NHL teams would like changed in the future. They feel that some players are too strong for the juniors, but could use some time in the AHL to get used to playing against men. They don't have that option right now. Obviously, the junior teams aren't thrilled with the idea...


You are correct boom. Prince is not listed as an over-ager this year and is not eligible to be sent to the AHL. However, Ryan Martindale was not listed as an over-ager either, if I remember correctly, yet Edmonton kept him in their camp with no news until about 2 weeks into the 67's season when Edmonton sent him to the ECHL. As I understand it, he is back in the AHL now.
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+1 #14 Sandy 2012-03-05 15:33
Prince is playing his 5th OHL season this year. He will turn 20 in November...

Would he not be eligible for the AHL next season with 5 CHL seasons played?

I saw a comment in the Ottawa Sun (yeah I know) that McLean said Bishop will get some games.
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+1 #15 captainohmycaptain11 2012-03-05 15:34
You can play in junior as a 20 years old. But I think you can be sent to the ahl if you're 20. You can't if you're 19 or under. That's why the gatineau olympiques traded Pageau cause nobody in sens organisation could confirm that he'd be sent back to junior next year...
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+1 #16 The Apostle 2012-03-05 15:41
Found this in a couple of places. Based on this I think Prince can play in Bingo next year as his first OHL season was 2008-09. Plus he will be 20 before December 31 2012.

Could any of this change under a new CBA?


"The NHL and CHL have an agreement in place which ensures CHL franchises (and fanbases) are able to retain most of their talent for three to four years.

The way it works is rather simple. A CHL player whose rights are held by an NHL team is only eligible to play a full season in the AHL if:

(a) the player will turn 20 years of age by December 31st of the season in question;
OR
(b) the player has already completed four seasons of Junior eligibility."
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0 #17 boom 2012-03-05 15:43
Quoting Sandy:
Prince is playing his 5th OHL season this year. He will turn 20 in November...

Would he not be eligible for the AHL next season with 5 CHL seasons played?

I saw a comment in the Ottawa Sun (yeah I know) that McLean said Bishop will get some games.

If he (Prince) is turning 20, then they will be allowed to send him to the AHL next season.
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0 #18 The Apostle 2012-03-05 15:44
Quoting lbernier:
Quoting Luke McQueen:
I agree, defense should be our focus this coming draft day. Anyone have a line on some of the beat D-prospects available this year?


Hometown Boy Cody Ceci looks like he will go somewhere between 10-20 in the draft this year so far, so he could be an excellent option for the Senators.


I like what I have heard about Ceci and we know Murray likes his local lads but I don't think he makes it out of the top 10. I also like the sound of Slater Koekkoek but I admit that is mainly because I like saying his name.

EDIT: I agree with madpj about the best player available but isn't this draft loaded with D projected to go between 10 and 20 whereas the forwards seems to be either top 7 guys or 25 and below?
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0 #19 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-05 15:48
Quoting lbernier:
Quoting Luke McQueen:
I agree, defense should be our focus this coming draft day. Anyone have a line on some of the beat D-prospects available this year?


Hometown Boy Cody Ceci looks like he will go somewhere between 10-20 in the draft this year so far, so he could be an excellent option for the Senators.


I was thinking the same thing, Ceci has been lighting it up. I haven't looked at the players available, but if Ottawa continues even close to what they have been doing, they will fall further into the draft and he could be possible. The thing with him is he's gaining more and more attention as the season goes. If they have a great post season expect him to climb higher. When it comes to the draft, Ottawa should focus on D, but as with any draft, isn't it best to take the best possible player, so long as he fits into the culture and system the Sens have? That seems to be the focus most times. And in the next season or two, odds are at least 1 or 2 of our high prospects could be used to pick up a D prospect. Everyone said it before, we won't be able to find a spot for all of them. Thoughts?
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0 #20 Mastersens 2012-03-05 15:52
Quoting lbernier:
Quoting jakester:
Is it true Zibby is an option to join the SENS now?


I dont think so, I have never heard of this happening before but I could be wrong. I think he has to stay in North America to be eligible to play for Ottawa right now.


Here is an article from the 6th sens that zibby can return this year

http://www.the6thsens.com/2012-articles/march/the-possible-return-of-the-mika.html
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0 #21 SwedishSens 2012-03-05 15:53
Quoting lbernier:
Quoting jakester:
Is it true Zibby is an option to join the SENS now?


I dont think so, I have never heard of this happening before but I could be wrong. I think he has to stay in North America to be eligible to play for Ottawa right now.


Yes he can Kruger for Chicago played SEL left played in NHL playoffs and WC all in the same year
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0 #22 The Apostle 2012-03-05 15:57
Quoting Ctea:


Will Stone and Silfverberg be eligible to play in the AHL? Our depth this year down there has gone down since the championship run. It'll be nice when we have a stronger team down there. Remember when Greening, Smith, and co. were called up? They barely missed a beat.



Stone is eligible for the AHL (based on my 10 minute old understanding of the rules). Silfverburg is too as he wasn't drafted from a CHL team.

I don't think they both end up there for the full year though. I think Silfverberg makes the NHL roster next year and Stone gets a call-up at some point.

None of Foligno, Regin, Konopka, Daugavins and Winchester are signed for next year and I can't see more than 2 of them having one way contracts going into the 2012/13 season as we need to make space for Zibanejad and Silfverburg who will both likely get a shot at a full time role next year.

I think Foligno gets a deal and gets told he really needs to step up his game. The emergence of O'Brien as a viable option for 4th line C duties makes it unlikely both of Konopka and Winchester stay (although as a cheap option for a 13th forward you could do worse than have one of those). Regin picked a terrible time to be injured and I don't think there is space for him anymore. If Daugavins doesn't accept a two way deal I think he moves on too.
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0 #23 Tookie 2012-03-05 16:00
Quoting lbernier:
Quoting Luke McQueen:
I agree, defense should be our focus this coming draft day. Anyone have a line on some of the beat D-prospects available this year?


Hometown Boy Cody Ceci looks like he will go somewhere between 10-20 in the draft this year so far, so he could be an excellent option for the Senators.


Reinhart
Ceci
Koekkoek
Maata
Pelech
Pouliot
Trouba
I have a feeling Sens are big on Bystrom, Swedish, plays for Modo, I hope they dont as the others I mentioned are basically NHL rdy or a year away. Bystrom would be a project.
But

All solid D's in this draft going between 10-25. I would take any of these so we are in good shape come draft day!
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+1 #24 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-05 16:02
Was just reading a link about the 67's and the OHL prospects for the 2012 draft. They said Ceci was ranked 10th among draft-eligible OHL skaters in NHL Central Scouting preliminary rankings in Nov/Dec. So where does that put him in the overall rankings?
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0 #25 Tookie 2012-03-05 16:11
Quoting madpajamma:
Was just reading a link about the 67's and the OHL prospects for the 2012 draft. They said Ceci was ranked 10th among draft-eligible OHL skaters in NHL Central Scouting preliminary rankings in Nov/Dec. So where does that put him in the overall rankings?


Well in almost all mock draft I see he is between 10th and 18th, doesnt mean he'll go there but most likely.

Sens can move up to get him! :P
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+1 #26 SwedishSens 2012-03-05 16:23
Id draft Ludvig Bystrom Compares Elder of the Canucks

But I wouldn't mind a trade for a Defencemen possibly a
Erik Gudbranson I don't think he is working out in Fla
and idlove a Cowen Gudbranson pairing Sign Stuart from det play with Karlsson

Stuart Karlsson
Cowen Gudbranson
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+1 #27 simple jack 2012-03-05 16:53
It would be a swede opportunity next year with

Zibanijad silfverberg alfredson

I would love to see the young swedes play and learn from master alfredson, it would reward us for years to come.
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+1 #28 MattZ 2012-03-05 17:01
Take this with a grain of salt but i actually picked up Ludvig Bystrom in my Be-a-Gm. was drafted by detroit 21nd overall and i snagged him for freddie claesen and a 2nd. Kid turned into a complete clone of Niklas Krownall but way better offensively.
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+2 #29 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-05 17:02
Just went through TSN's Feb draft rankings. On D I'd like to see Ottawa try for guys like Mathew Dumba # 5, Griffin Reinhart # 9 or Cody Ceci # 12, as the scouting reports are high on them. I know we'd be hard pressed to land Dumba (my overall fav) due to draft position, but Reinhart or Ceci could fall further if teams take an interest in the forwards.

Looking at the forwards, we won't get any of well known names, but a guy like Radek Faksa # 10 could potentially be snagged if BM makes a move to advance in the draft. At 6'3, 202 lbs he's a big Czech that plays a power-forward style which the Sens could really use on the 1st or 2nd line in the future.

But if we end up drafting 18th or later, we should take a serious look at Goalie Andrei Vasilevski # 18 or Malcolm Subban # 22. Everyone remembers what Vasilevski did in the WJC's this year at 17. He could be a great addition but I have a feeling that Malcolm Subban will pass him in the rankings before draft day.
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+2 #30 jakester 2012-03-05 17:41
Sens will probably go for a d-man. Now with Bishop and Lehner a goalie can be taken in the later rounds(and hope that he pans out!). Sens still have good D-men in the system-lets just hope we give them a shot one day!
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+3 #31 oakster15 2012-03-05 18:03
bishop up to the sens and lenher goes down to bingy
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0 #32 senskarlsson57 2012-03-05 18:20
Not sure if this has been posted already, but our goalie prospects are really getting some recognition from the NHL:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=620582&navid=DL|NHL|home
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0 #33 simple jack 2012-03-05 18:21
We'll see what bishop is all about tomorrow.
We are playing against desperate teams, it will be hard fought victories.
Go sens
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0 #34 Sandy 2012-03-05 18:33
From the Ottawa Sun:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/03/05/no-tax-hit-to-senators-flaherty

While Flaherty (Fed Finance Min) says no.. Duncan did not exactly follow those words.

So if the Feds say no -- is it a 'dead issue' so the speak?

But good news none the less..but still don't know if this is the last of it...
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0 #35 Andrews Theory 2012-03-05 18:38
how big is the game between Bufalo and Winnipeg tonight...

i think Miller is going to throw the team on his back and bring them into the playoffs.

I'd certainly be ok with having the sens pick a defenseman, our depth was good but It took a big step back when we traded DR.

gryba and. Boro are bottom pairing guys I had to predict their potential which leaves PW..who knows, one of our guys playing university hockey could surprise

with that said, best player available is definitley the way to go this year. really liked the idea of targeting gudbranson and or ive said before, lets make a pitch for Suter...
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0 #36 SNOOPY SENIOR 2012-03-05 20:32
Good move by the Sens to insert Ben Bishop in Tuesday night's game in Tampa Bay.

This will give Bishop a bit of a warm up to be ready for Thursday game in Ottawa vs the Rangers.

Auld will be the backup in both games, as Lehner will be on his way to Binghamton, after 2 wins and 2 losses>

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!
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0 #37 SensFanInMTL 2012-03-06 02:05
If Zibanejad returns to the team, does:

- He return during the few remaining games of the Sens' schedule or playoffs?

- Burn a year of his 3 year contract?

Also Prince, who will turn 20, is eligible for AHL status. But doesn't he have to be signed to a contract first? Or has he already signed? How about Stone?
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0 #38 Merchaholic 2012-03-06 08:55
Quoting sensarmy:
When do we get to see what Bishop can do?


We will see tonight in Tampa.
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0 #39 Sensnation 2012-03-06 11:23
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
If Zibanejad returns to the team, does:

- He return during the few remaining games of the Sens' schedule or playoffs?

- Burn a year of his 3 year contract?

Also Prince, who will turn 20, is eligible for AHL status. But doesn't he have to be signed to a contract first? Or has he already signed? How about Stone?



Here are some excerpts I found on playoff eligibility and the reserve list:

Playoff Eligibility
"Today, only players on the reserve list of an NHL club at the trading deadline may participate in the Stanley Cup playoffs."

Reserve List
"Today, a member club may have on its reserve list, at any one time, not more than 90 players, which shall include the following:

- Not more than 50 players signed to standard player contracts and not less than 24 players and three goalkeepers under contract. Age 18 and age 19 players who were returned to Canadian Major Junior Hockey clubs, and who have not played 11 games in the National Hockey League in one season, are exempt from inclusion in the 50 player limit.
- Unsigned draft selections."


It would definitely burn a year off his ELC though.
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0 #40 SensFanInToronto 2012-03-06 22:58
Quoting FAIL4NAIL:
Now it's time too Rebuild our Defence like we did with the forwards this spring


Murray started rebuilding the defence first! Cowan, Karlsson, Gryba, Weircoch(?), Borowicki.

They'll grab at least 1 goalie in this years draft and i wouldn't be surprised to see some bigger, tougher scrapper guys being drafted. There's alot of skill in the system.
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