Thursday, 15 December 2011 09:09

Thomas, Bruins Top Sens

I guess we should have seen it coming.

The Boston Bruins have been one of the league's hottest teams and continued their winning ways with a convincing 5-2 win over the Senators in front of just over 18,000 fans at Scotiabank Place.

As is so often the case when these two teams meet, Tim Thomas was the difference for the Bruins.  The Sens peppered Thomas with quality chances in the early going but just couldn't find a way to get one by him.  Then at the other end, Rich Peverley buried the Bruins first decent shot on goal and you could just tell it was going to be one of those nights.

To their credit, and according to script for the Sens this year, they refused to quit.  Daniel Alfredsson tied the game for the home side but an old friend took the lead back before the period was out.  Kelly's goal was his 12th of the season.

Ottawa had their chances early in the third but again Thomas was there to shut the door.  Two defensive miscues later and the Senators were in a hole they could not dig out of.  The Sens dominated on the shot clock (49-29) but Thomas was at his best.  The loss drops the Sens to 14-14-4 on the season but still just one point out of that final playoff spot.

Another strong night for Jason Spezza in this one.

He picked up two more points and is now up to 32 points on the season.  The fact that Spezza has been able to stay at a point per game pace despite having had so many different plays skate on his wings this season is a testament to just how good he has been this year.  He is going to have to keep that up if the Sens are going to stay in the mix.

  • Spoke with a couple people about the Milan Michalek injury last night and the consensus seems to be it's not serious.  Apparently he was suffering minor headaches after the collision with Karlsson so the Sens wanted to be cautious and understandably so.  MacLean said Michalek felt much better the next day which is a great sign.
  • The Sens are also hoping to get one of Sergei Gonchar or Filip Kuba back on Friday.  Would not be surprised to see David Rundblad come out of the line up.  The addition of Gonchar or Kuba would certainly help the Sens power play.
  • Mentioned this on Twitter last night but expect the Sens to make a formal announcement about the new scoreboard tomorrow.  The hope is to have it installed over the Christmas break which means fans will see it for the first time on December 27th when the Montreal Canadiens are in town.
  • The Sens will practice today at noon ahead of tomorrow's match up with the Pittsburgh Penguins.  Should have a better idea on the status of Gonchar and Kuba later this afternoon.
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+7 #1 my2sens 2011-12-15 09:41
Great game last night. Rebuild vs. Defenders. Cannot complain with their game last night. Yes we had two miscues, shit happens. Pissed me off though that when the Sens are at their top, the opposing goalies are as well! Can we not get one of the league's best on their off nights?

Great game from Spezza and Alfie!

Hope to see our vets back soon!

GO SENS GO!

Pick up, dust off and let's get back in the W column!
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+3 #2 spezzerman 2011-12-15 09:50
I thought the sens played the defending champs very well. Boston just took advantage of the defensive breakdowns that you get with a young d. Can't fault anderson for not stopping two breakaways from the neutral zone. Paille's could have been stopped but credit the shooter for a beauty top corner.
Sens had like 15 shots on the PP - it's going to go in eventually.
Loved seeing Cowen immediately stick up for foligno. unlike so many other teams, the Sens were not intimidated by Boston and to me that is a good sign. what a scrap - Lucic/Carkner.
it's great seeing Kelly have success in Boston.
Great news about the Scoreboard!
Better news about Michalek!
Those third jerseys look fantastic out there!
and one last thing, I find the SBP crowd noisier this year than any other year. They dont need the noise meter to make noise, good stuff! We arent winnipeg but we are getting better.
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+4 #3 383 2011-12-15 09:54
For me, it was in the first 30-40 seconds of the game when Alfie fed Greening alone in front and TT flat out stoned him.

All I could think was how much I hate Tim Thomas, but DAMN I respect him!

Big game Friday Boys, Go Sens Go!!!
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+1 #4 SensChirp 2011-12-15 09:55
This video is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iwvfYmpYdaM
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+1 #5 AlfieforMayor11 2011-12-15 09:57
I think we played a pretty good game for the most part last night. The difference was Tim Thomas without a doubt. We outplayed the B's for a large portion of that game, but it came down to a few mistakes which cost us the game. We've been seeing these types of errors night in and night out, but I guess it's to be expected with such a young and inexperienced team.

Hey Snoopy I have a question for you, on the previous comment section you said the impatient fans must all be young. What kind of comment is that? I'm pretty sure the impatient fans are of all ages, just like the patient fans such as myself, 23, and you, are of all ages as well. There's no need to generalize. Us young fans are every bit as knowledgeable about the game and our team as anyone else.
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+1 #6 AlfieforMayor11 2011-12-15 10:15
Quoting SensChirp:
This video is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iwvfYmpYdaM


How badly do you wish you were one of those guys out there? Lol I'm so jealous. I can't wait for the outdoor rinks to open up here in Ottawa. The current warmer weather isn't really helping out the cause. This time last year the rinks were open for the most part.
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-1 #7 111519 2011-12-15 10:20
anderson couldnt stop a beach ball last night

just not his night
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0 #8 spezzerman 2011-12-15 10:23
Quoting SensChirp:
This video is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iwvfYmpYdaM


That must be how Jesus feels
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0 #9 SensChirp 2011-12-15 10:26
For those that read French an interesting article from Sylvain St. Laurent. In it, Pierre Dorion talks about the possibility of bringing Chris Kelly back. Kelly is a UFA at the end of the season.

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/stlaurent/2011/12/15/chris-kelly-dans-la-mire-de-bryan-murray/
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-1 #10 AlfieforMayor11 2011-12-15 10:30
It would be awesome to have Kelly back. I still don't know if trading him for a second round pick was really worth losing him. I can't see him leaving Boston now though. It's his new home and he has a chance to win multiple championships there. The Bruins are going to be able to contend for at least another 5 years. Also, with the way he's playing why would they not resign him? He's having a career year. He's one of the best 3rd line centers in the league.
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+6 #11 The Apostle 2011-12-15 10:36
Trading Kelly allowed us to move up for Matt Puempel, select Shane Prince and gave Zach Smith a far greater opportunity. So I think it was worth it.

I agree that the biggest stumbling block would be that Kelly is well liked by the Boston organisation and they will do what they can to re-sign him.
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+1 #12 AlfieforMayor11 2011-12-15 10:38
Quoting The Apostle:
Trading Kelly allowed us to move up for Matt Puempel, select Shane Prince and gave Zach Smith a far greater opportunity. So I think it was worth it.

I agree that the biggest stumbling block would be that Kelly is well liked by the Boston organisation and they will do what they can to re-sign him.


When you put it that way..... Solid trade haha
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-2 #13 hq 2011-12-15 10:38
They SHOULD DEFINITELY BRING KELLY BACK. Although he will be slightly expensive after significantly more visible performance in boston. Won't be surprised if Chiarelli retains him.
as much as I dislike the bruins, I keep thinking about the game last night and there is this calmness in the bruin's style of play. interesting to note is that the team's real stud is on defense in chara. their top six is good, but if you compare it to penguins, capitals, rangers, philly, canucks, detroit, chi-town, LA...elite teams, on paper it doesn't stand out that much. they also don't make any fancy plays, and don't overthink plays, always the safe simple play first. and then they have Tim Thomas...and dougie hamilton coming up.
i think ottawa has the style and the assets to beat the bruins. however, its the errors that bruins will never commit that the sens commit each game that make the difference.
can't wait for Thomas to retire lol or just leave.
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0 #14 Johne 2011-12-15 10:40
What do you think the Sens' plans are for Da Costa? I thought he had a really good camp and a much better than expected start to this NHL season. I know he was a prized signing and that alone doesn't warrant playing time, but he sure looked to be damn good this season, but no room at center for him...
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+3 #15 AlfieforMayor11 2011-12-15 10:49
Did anyone see Patrick Kane's shootout goal last night? He made Backstrom look like an idiot
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+1 #16 Spinorama 2011-12-15 11:24
Quoting SensChirp:
For those that read French an interesting article from Sylvain St. Laurent. In it, Pierre Dorion talks about the possibility of bringing Chris Kelly back. Kelly is a UFA at the end of the season.

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/stlaurent/2011/12/15/chris-kelly-dans-la-mire-de-bryan-murray/


WOO WOO People, bring back Kelly ? Are you kidding me ? Let's move on without him. Do you guys always go back to your ex-girlfriends ? There is a reason why things didn't work out, what would change this time around. Time to move on and give the young ones that roster spot. Kelly trade was well worth it with the draft we had last summer.
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0 #17 The Apostle 2011-12-15 11:28
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Did anyone see Patrick Kane's shootout goal last night? He made Backstrom look like an idiot



lol - that's exactly what I said to the person I was on the phone to as I watched it
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+1 #18 da lil guy 2011-12-15 11:32
With the benefit of hindsight, it was probably the wrong move to start Anderson back to back.

Love the mask, though.
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0 #19 Sens of Peskyville 2011-12-15 11:46
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Did anyone see Patrick Kane's shootout goal last night? He made Backstrom look like an idiot



lol - that's exactly what I said to the person I was on the phone to as I watched it


It looked almost like he stopped the puck's forward movement. I wonder if they would ever call a goal off for that...
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0 #20 hq 2011-12-15 11:48
@Blue: thought the same thing, but if you look closely, he never stops moving his feet forward. pretty smart move and very skilled skating. in terms of actual stickhandling, it was not super flashy (if you compare it to bergeron's breakaway yesterday or even some of Michalek's backhand numbers this year). However, he really confused the crap out of Backstrom. I think his celebration was over the top though.
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0 #21 my2sens 2011-12-15 11:56
SC - Any news on the Foligno hit? Some were calling for something more...

Side note: Nice to see Emery and Elliott are two of the best goalies out there!
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0 #22 SensChirp 2011-12-15 12:16
Quoting my2sens:
SC - Any news on the Foligno hit? Some were calling for something more...

Side note: Nice to see Emery and Elliott are two of the best goalies out there!

My initial reaction was suspension but after watching the replay a couple times I think they may let it go. Helps that Foligno was not seriously injured on the play.
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0 #23 SensChirp 2011-12-15 12:17
Kuba on the ice at practice but Gonchar is not. Alfredsson also taking a day off. Remember in years past when it was almost assumed that Alfie wouldn't be at practice?
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-3 #24 miguel 2011-12-15 12:21
was at the game last night, and it was a spirited effort.
Not at all Anderson's fault,
can someone please explain to me what was Rundblad thinking when we gingerly skates away from Kelly on his goal?
And what was Karlsson looking at when Lee gives him a pass, and he simply skates by it to give Bergeron the breakaway?
And finally on the PP, what are both Rundblad and Karlsson doing in no mans land on the PP to give Paille the breakaway?
Look it I love what Karlsson can bring, and he is young with huge upside, so we will have nights like that, but I am really concerned about Rundblad's development, right now there is NO development, he is getting worse. He is not Karlsson, and you cannot havee Gonchar, Karlsson and Rundblad in the lineup, only one of them.
Runblad has extremely bad habits, he must have some games in the AHL, and if he again threatens to go to the SEL, then let him. He is not NHL ready now.. IMO of course
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0 #25 SensChirp 2011-12-15 12:27
Filatov has still not signed a contract in the KHL. Strange situation developing over there right now.
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0 #26 IcySurfas 2011-12-15 12:29
Apparently I didn't understand the rules behind a player being credited for an assist. Last week I noticed during the Sens and Devils game, that Spezza passed the puck to Alfie, then Alfie to Karlsson, Karlsson back to Alfie, and Alfie shoots and scores. Spezza gets an assist on the play.

Last night, again, on Spezza's goal, Alfie got an assist after Spezza passed the puck to Philips and then got it back from Philips to score. I was under the impression that once a puck has been passed twice (even if its between the same 2 guys) that the previous guy to pass it doesn't get an assist on a goal. Apparently thats not the case? Am I the only one who didnt realize this before?
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0 #27 Johne 2011-12-15 12:29
Quoting SensChirp:
Filatov has still not signed a contract in the KHL. Strange situation developing over there right now.


Crazy. I'd like to just move on from Filatov, no more high hopes.
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0 #28 miguel 2011-12-15 12:30
Quoting SensChirp:
Filatov has still not signed a contract in the KHL. Strange situation developing over there right now.


Hey Chirp,
that is extremely odd, was it not already set for him to play in the Red Army?
Are they having second thoughts about him, if so then that is a real concern,
thanks
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+1 #29 Ryan 2011-12-15 12:32
Quoting SensChirp:
Filatov has still not signed a contract in the KHL. Strange situation developing over there right now.

Ya what happens if he doesn't sign a contract there does he came back to play in the ahl?
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0 #30 Sensnation 2011-12-15 12:34
Quoting SensChirp:
For those that read French an interesting article from Sylvain St. Laurent. In it, Pierre Dorion talks about the possibility of bringing Chris Kelly back. Kelly is a UFA at the end of the season.

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/stlaurent/2011/12/15/chris-kelly-dans-la-mire-de-bryan-murray/


Very interesting article Chirp. I didn't realize Kelly still had his home here. I worry that his current career year might inflate his salary though, and anything over 2.5-3mil would not really fit into our future plans imo.

Also, where would he play? We already have Spezza, Foligno and Smith as top 3 centers, as well as Zibanejad, Da Costa and others coming up. It would be nice to see him back, I'm just not sure where he'd fit salary wise or depth wise.
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0 #31 Sensnation 2011-12-15 12:41
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting my2sens:
SC - Any news on the Foligno hit? Some were calling for something more...

Side note: Nice to see Emery and Elliott are two of the best goalies out there!

My initial reaction was suspension but after watching the replay a couple times I think they may let it go. Helps that Foligno was not seriously injured on the play.


It seriously bothers me that these types of hits are based on injury. You can't get players to stop doing it if they only have to worry about repercussion sometimes. Sticking a leg out like that imo should always come with a 1 game suspension, though I doubt we will see one here.
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0 #32 hq 2011-12-15 12:44
alfie did get bumped by seidenberg and fell awkwardly yesterday.

if the sens could just stop the gimme's to the other team.......if and only if....i dont get how its so hard to kill just that after 32 games....
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0 #33 N8ball85 2011-12-15 12:46
Quoting SensChirp:
Filatov has still not signed a contract in the KHL. Strange situation developing over there right now.

So what does that mean chirp? We havnt seen the end of filatov just yet boys , murray would like to keep his rights so....
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-3 #34 IcySurfas 2011-12-15 13:01
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Did anyone see Patrick Kane's shootout goal last night? He made Backstrom look like an idiot


This is my grumpy rant of the day. Personally, Im tired of seeing hockey games decided in a shoot-out when guys score trick style shots like Kane did last night. Awesome stuff to watch say in a skills-competit ion, but that's where it belongs. At NO point during the actual game would a player have that kind of time and space to make a break-away shot like that, So I think it has no place in the shoot-out when 2 points are on the line.

Maybe have the NHL use a timer of some kind that allows a player X number of seconds to skate in and take a shot during the shoot-out attempt. Something more honest to the pace of the game in regulation. This slow down / speed up / super wide angle approch / 10-12 dekes we see sometimes makes me sick when 2 points are on the line. Just doesn't seem honest to me.
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+1 #35 ShaunK 2011-12-15 13:13
Quoting SensChirp:
This video is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iwvfYmpYdaM


Incredible. It looks so smooth when you watch the puck glide. Normally outdoor ice is crap and rough but that's like a sheet of glass. Amazing
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-3 #36 The Apostle 2011-12-15 13:13
Do away with shoot outs entirely as a way to decide the outcome of a game.

Maybe it's because I'm from the UK and therefore completely used to draws/ties but I don't get the North American obsession with there having to be a winner on the night.

And I really don't get how winning a game in a shoot out should be equal to winning a game in regulation.

I would like to see
Regulation win 3pts
Overtime win (5 minute, 4 on 4) 2pts
Tie at the end of overtime 1 pt each
Overtime loss 1 pt

However, i can see the argument that a team tied with five minutes left in regulation might be terrified to make a mistake which could give an division rival 3 pts and them 0 and therefore play completely negatively.
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+3 #37 ShaunK 2011-12-15 13:15
On the McQuaid hit, how can the league NOT suspend him?

Porter got 4 games for his knee on Booth so there needs to be some consistency. Just because Foligno wasn't hurt shouldnt mean he avoids suspension.

But Shanahan has been abysmal in his role so far and given that it's the Bruins I expect no further action
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+2 #38 ShaunK 2011-12-15 13:18
also, I know that the team hasnt been great in front of him at times but I think Anderson had a fuckin horror show last night.

On the Peverly goal, you cant be letting in unscreened shots from the top of the circle. Sorry but that's all on him. His timing sucks. We needed him to make that save because we werre all over the Bruins but THomas was playing well.

And yes Rundblad gave Kelly too much space but that was still a terrible goal that got under his arm from like 2 feet away. Another save you need him to make
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+3 #39 Smash_88 2011-12-15 13:19
Quoting IcySurfas:
Apparently I didn't understand the rules behind a player being credited for an assist. Last week I noticed during the Sens and Devils game, that Spezza passed the puck to Alfie, then Alfie to Karlsson, Karlsson back to Alfie, and Alfie shoots and scores. Spezza gets an assist on the play.

Last night, again, on Spezza's goal, Alfie got an assist after Spezza passed the puck to Philips and then got it back from Philips to score. I was under the impression that once a puck has been passed twice (even if its between the same 2 guys) that the previous guy to pass it doesn't get an assist on a goal. Apparently thats not the case? Am I the only one who didnt realize this before?


The rule as far as i know it, has always been the last 2 players to touch the puck before the goalscorer, regardless how many times it goes between those 3...
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+9 #40 Smithers 2011-12-15 14:08
Quoting ShaunK:
also, I know that the team hasnt been great in front of him at times but I think Anderson had a fuckin horror show last night.


And this is why we are a goalie graveyard.

Goal 1: guy standing alone in the slot makes a good shot, pretty hard to stop.
Goal2: Makes a great save on a deflection while kelly is allowed to stand there and bang in the rebound, your're right, guys standing alone banging in rebounds is always the goalies fault!
Goal 3: Breakaway, never blame a goalie
Goal 4: Breakaway, again
Goal 5: Slapshot from the faceoff circle, make yourself big and hope it hits you, cant react that fast.

How about instead of ALWAYS shitting on our goaltending, we put blame where blame is due. Phillips has been AWFUL, Karlsson has been awful in our end, Runblad has been awful in our end. Butler might as well not play.
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0 #41 Smithers 2011-12-15 14:14
And on a side note, drove in from Kingston for the game last night, thanks for the heads up about Mike McCarthy Chirp! Great guy, helped me get some awesome last minute tickets for a great price! Met him at the game and will surely be talking to him again soon.
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+4 #42 The Apostle 2011-12-15 14:35
Quoting Smithers:
Quoting ShaunK:
also, I know that the team hasnt been great in front of him at times but I think Anderson had a fuckin horror show last night.


And this is why we are a goalie graveyard.

Goal 1: guy standing alone in the slot makes a good shot, pretty hard to stop.
Goal2: Makes a great save on a deflection while kelly is allowed to stand there and bang in the rebound, your're right, guys standing alone banging in rebounds is always the goalies fault!
Goal 3: Breakaway, never blame a goalie
Goal 4: Breakaway, again
Goal 5: Slapshot from the faceoff circle, make yourself big and hope it hits you, cant react that fast.

How about instead of ALWAYS shitting on our goaltending, we put blame where blame is due. Phillips has been AWFUL, Karlsson has been awful in our end, Runblad has been awful in our end. Butler might as well not play.


100%
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+3 #43 383 2011-12-15 14:42
@Smithers

If I could give you "10 thumbs up" for that comment I would.

Our guys have to be better in front of Andy.

Period.
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0 #44 SensChirp 2011-12-15 14:46
Quoting Smithers:
And on a side note, drove in from Kingston for the game last night, thanks for the heads up about Mike McCarthy Chirp! Great guy, helped me get some awesome last minute tickets for a great price! Met him at the game and will surely be talking to him again soon.

Glad to hear it worked out! Hardest working guy in the business.
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0 #45 Alcatraz 2011-12-15 14:48
i wish filatov was still around

with him here these comments were flooded regarding him. Now that he is gone and the issue has been resolved we are back to doing what sens fans know best. Blaming goalies and driving them out of town

He elt in 5 goals sure. 2 are breakaways that shouldn't have happened. Sure I would love for Anderson to make the save as that could be a momentum swinger, but you can't fault him.
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-1 #46 Dan Druff 2011-12-15 14:50
Quoting SensChirp:
Filatov has still not signed a contract in the KHL. Strange situation developing over there right now.



Goodbye Pork Pie !
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0 #47 miguel 2011-12-15 14:59
Quoting Smithers:
Quoting ShaunK:
also, I know that the team hasnt been great in front of him at times but I think Anderson had a fuckin horror show last night.


And this is why we are a goalie graveyard.

Goal 1: guy standing alone in the slot makes a good shot, pretty hard to stop.
Goal2: Makes a great save on a deflection while kelly is allowed to stand there and bang in the rebound, your're right, guys standing alone banging in rebounds is always the goalies fault!
Goal 3: Breakaway, never blame a goalie
Goal 4: Breakaway, again
Goal 5: Slapshot from the faceoff circle, make yourself big and hope it hits you, cant react that fast.

How about instead of ALWAYS shitting on our goaltending, we put blame where blame is due. Phillips has been AWFUL, Karlsson has been awful in our end, Runblad has been awful in our end. Butler might as well not play.

Hallelua Smithers!!!
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0 #48 No65* 2011-12-15 15:01
Quoting Alcatraz:
i wish filatov was still around

with him here these comments were flooded regarding him. Now that he is gone and the issue has been resolved we are back to doing what sens fans know best. Blaming goalies and driving them out of town

He elt in 5 goals sure. 2 are breakaways that shouldn't have happened. Sure I would love for Anderson to make the save as that could be a momentum swinger, but you can't fault him.


So your saying Anderson should have made the save but we can't blame him? Anderson is not playing his angles the proper way this year. That's why so many "easy" goals are given every game. You can tell just by looking at him. He looks as small in the net as Elliot was when he was struggling. You can easily see many wholes.
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0 #49 Smash_88 2011-12-15 15:05
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Smithers:
And on a side note, drove in from Kingston for the game last night, thanks for the heads up about Mike McCarthy Chirp! Great guy, helped me get some awesome last minute tickets for a great price! Met him at the game and will surely be talking to him again soon.

Glad to hear it worked out! Hardest working guy in the business.



Yeah Mike set me up with my season seats, great guy for sure.. Really helped out with the million questions I had... LOL
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0 #50 darthsens911 2011-12-15 15:06
Quoting SensChirp:
For those that read French an interesting article from Sylvain St. Laurent. In it, Pierre Dorion talks about the possibility of bringing Chris Kelly back. Kelly is a UFA at the end of the season.

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/stlaurent/2011/12/15/chris-kelly-dans-la-mire-de-bryan-murray/


I was going to ask about this as it is also reported on the 4th period site as something the Sens are interested in.
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-1 #51 miguel 2011-12-15 15:06
Smithers
so absoulutely true.
The shots the opposition gets on Anderson from prime quality areas is ridiculous.
I was at the game, and yes we managed 47 shots, all from mostly perimeter areas, with their D boxing out our players.
If I take off my rose coloured glasses,
Yes Karlsson will be a hi-lite real, but along with his 26 assists are about another 20 helpers to the opposition.
As for Rundblad, they are really only hurting him.
He thinks he is another Karlsson, and you can only have one of that kind of D-man. He needs to go down, and learn how to play D in the AHL.
Philipps is done, he was never fleet of foot, now with the rule changes he keeps giving players the slot, by backin up so he won't look foolish when the walk around him.
Cowen is a monster, and then Lee is our next best D right now,
but to blame Anderson is simply ridiculous.
He has merely stolen a few games (west road trip) or at least kept us in most!
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-1 #52 hq 2011-12-15 15:14
phillips and rundblad....if they don't change their game as of next game for the rest of the season, AND finish the season on the team THEN no playoffs.

rundblad you can excuse because he is a rookie and in due time soon will learn the tricks and will be a stud.

Phillips on the other hand is past his prime and it does not look good on the organization and him collectively to sign a long term contract and then have astoundingly shit performance. I think the sens need to change directions, if there is any such in the first place and dump Phillips at the deadline. He would look amazing in Edmonton, somehow make it work because he looks just incompetent out there. Just does not look like he belongs. and its a real shame that he wears the "A" on the team and a first year rookie like Cowen is outplaying him game in game out AND leading the team in ice time. just ridiculous. why did Murray re-sign him, he had absolutely nothing going.
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0 #53 SensChirp 2011-12-15 15:14
Quoting darthsens911:
Quoting SensChirp:
For those that read French an interesting article from Sylvain St. Laurent. In it, Pierre Dorion talks about the possibility of bringing Chris Kelly back. Kelly is a UFA at the end of the season.

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/stlaurent/2011/12/15/chris-kelly-dans-la-mire-de-bryan-murray/


I was going to ask about this as it is also reported on the 4th period site as something the Sens are interested in.

Would be very surprised if this is anything beyond speculation right now. Yes, he's a UFA to be. Yes, he was well liked here in Ottawa. Yes, he loved his time here.

But as far as this being something of substance that the organization has already discussed...I really doubt it.
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0 #54 The Apostle 2011-12-15 15:18
Quoting hq:
phillips and rundblad....if they don't change their game as of next game for the rest of the season, AND finish the season on the team THEN no playoffs.


No playoffs regardless of what those two do. You make it sound like those two are the only reasons this team isn't a playoff contender.
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+1 #55 AlfieforMayor11 2011-12-15 15:24
Lots of people bashing Phillips lately. I don't think he's been too bad defensively, but once the puck is on his stick I start to shit my pants. There's nothing we can do. I wasn't too thrilled about the extension we gave him, but there's nothing we can do now. I'm sure he'll be a Senator for the duration of his current contract. He hasn't been as bad as people make him out to be.
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0 #56 hq 2011-12-15 15:29
@The Apostle:
yea probably true with the way teams have caught up finally and how we are sort of at the bottom of the playoff race just outside the Eastern conference cellar. yet, the way phillips has been playing is just super disappointing. Spezza and Alfredsson are the only other 'old-guard' guys left and they certainly are keeping their keep and playing like the team's vets. in saying that, its amazing how the sens have only three remaining guys from the team that made the finals 4 years ago.
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0 #57 The Apostle 2011-12-15 15:59
I think we are seeing exactly what sort of team we have - and I hate to say it but it reminds me of where the leafs were last year - our fight and willingness to work hard will keep us in most games, but we do not have the quality to compete with the elite teams or the mid range playoff contending teams on a regular basis.

Nobody should be shocked or dismayed by this, we aren't even one year into a full on rebuild. I think the play of the younger guys and the six game win streak confused a lot of people and gave their hope genes a kick.

Next year we will be better (again like the leafs) regardless of how many of our prospects make the NHL team and be able to compete more quickly but the reality is that the real benefit of what we are doing now waont be felt for 2 seasons after this one. Where we easily trump the leafs is that it took them 4 years to get where we are now and our prospects are generally in a better shape.
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0 #58 Sens of Peskyville 2011-12-15 16:06
Quoting hq:
@The Apostle:
yea probably true with the way teams have caught up finally and how we are sort of at the bottom of the playoff race just outside the Eastern conference cellar. yet, the way phillips has been playing is just super disappointing. Spezza and Alfredsson are the only other 'old-guard' guys left and they certainly are keeping their keep and playing like the team's vets. in saying that, its amazing how the sens have only three remaining guys from the team that made the finals 4 years ago.


Chris Neil?

Roster for 2006-2007
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000542007.html

I like how Ray Emery had as many points (2) as Oleg Saprykin in the playoff run ;-)
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+5 #59 Sensnation 2011-12-15 16:14
Why is Phillips bashing back? He's done a decent job and is acting as a good mentor for the young guys.

Like those who got off on our long win streak, people are just expecting too much. He is what he is, and that's a good, not great, dman. The team is what is, a good upcoming team with plenty of room for improvement but lots of heart and a never quit attitude.

I don't know how anyone can be disappointed with the team this year, and aside from Anderson, not many are underperforming .

Enjoy the ups, relax during the downs but at the end of the day it's always GO SENS GO!!!
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0 #60 hq 2011-12-15 16:56
@Blue: my bad, yes chris neil indeed.

@Sensnation: Phillips bashing is back because:
1. rundblad bashing is useless, he is a rookie
2. Kuba and Gonchar have measurably redeemed themselves
3. No other veteran on this roster has stunk up to the levels Phillips has
4. A good D-man is good a defending, not good at turnovers and miscues. Last two games Phillips dished up a pretty decent sample size of bad defending.

you know its really not so much his own play, because the way he is performing right now, is very much the same as the last two years. its the fact that his bad performance is now standing out against the rest of the roster. and cut anderson some slack, he may be prone to weak goals, but he has also given this team confidence to go back and win games this year. just recently in buffalo, he held the fort until the rest of the sens decided they wanted the two points.
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+1 #61 ShaunK 2011-12-15 16:59
Way to read my post and twist my words. I'm not blaming him for the breakaways, but that first goal was his fault. Sorry but an unscreened snapshot from the top of the circle in that game, in those circumstances needs to be stopped. No question.

And the Kelly goal sucked. No matter how you want to sugar coat it, it was a crap goal that never should have went in. Anderson was out on top of him and let in a softie under his arm

His timing sucks. He's letting in bad goals at bad times. End of story. Where's the Anderson from last year?
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0 #62 boom 2011-12-15 17:04
Quoting ShaunK:
Way to read my post and twist my words. I'm not blaming him for the breakaways, but that first goal was his fault. Sorry but an unscreened snapshot from the top of the circle in that game, in those circumstances needs to be stopped. No question.

And the Kelly goal sucked. No matter how you want to sugar coat it, it was a crap goal that never should have went in. Anderson was out on top of him and let in a softie under his arm

His timing sucks. He's letting in bad goals at bad times. End of story. Where's the Anderson from last year?

Exactly. The commentators even mentioned that the Sens bench reacted with a bunch of hanging heads after that first weak goal. Sounds eerily similar to last year with Elliot doesn't it? Look at his body language as well. I think there's no question - he has not played nearly as well as he did last year.
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+2 #63 MoeDozer 2011-12-15 17:09
i think phillips is playing just fine defensively, much better than last year, he is actually separating players from the puck when he has to, blocking shots etc.

things go wrong when phillips has to do everything, and by everything i mean take the puck and make a solid first pass or clearing the zone. he realises that since he is paired up with struggling young guys *rundblad*, he tries to be a leader/veteran by doing it him self to relieve pressure off others. i dont blame philly and i think PM is noticing it too, hell he is giving him PP time as well.
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+2 #64 MoeDozer 2011-12-15 17:38
good to hear shana-ban doing something about the mcquaid incident.
fined him for $2500 according to fat brucy on twitter.

still think it should have been a suspension but thats what makes no sense to me, a player is bascialy only suspended if he injures another, not just when he does an illegal technique.
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0 #65 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-12-15 18:27
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Did anyone see Patrick Kane's shootout goal last night? He made Backstrom look like an idiot


@ AFM,

Kane is no doubt a fast puck magician, with his stick and body language. Never ever have I seen such control of the puck with so quick in stickhandling. He clearly frose Backstrom !!

I sincerely believe that if goalie was Roy, Brodeur Dryden
or any one in past 100 years of the game ,would all have been mesmorized by Kane's creativity and quick magic.

As to you earlier post, about the young whippersnappers who whine and bail out on a rebuilding team, I of course excluded you and a few other young but realistic supporters
who can accept any loss !

And that includes my friend Tookie, but not FAIL$NAIL !!
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0 #66 Sandy 2011-12-15 19:12
Very interesting article Chirp. I didn't realize Kelly still had his home here. I worry that his current career year might inflate his salary though, and anything over 2.5-3mil would not really fit into our future plans imo.

(quote]

My son waited on him this summer -- he works at Home Depot part-time so I knew he was back in Ottawa. His wife is from here I believe.

Also Chirp...a member of an organization (Pierre Dorion) can't talk publicly about a player already signed in another organization (Kelly). Am I correct on that? Is that tampering?
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-1 #67 Sandy 2011-12-15 19:16
Quoting No65*:
Quoting Alcatraz:
i wish filatov was still around

with him here these comments were flooded regarding him. Now that he is gone and the issue has been resolved we are back to doing what sens fans know best. Blaming goalies and driving them out of town

He elt in 5 goals sure. 2 are breakaways that shouldn't have happened. Sure I would love for Anderson to make the save as that could be a momentum swinger, but you can't fault him.


So your saying Anderson should have made the save but we can't blame him? Anderson is not playing his angles the proper way this year. That's why so many "easy" goals are given every game. You can tell just by looking at him. He looks as small in the net as Elliot was when he was struggling. You can easily see many wholes.



Where's the goaltending coach?
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-1 #68 Sandy 2011-12-15 19:18
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting hq:
phillips and rundblad....if they don't change their game as of next game for the rest of the season, AND finish the season on the team THEN no playoffs.


No playoffs regardless of what those two do. You make it sound like those two are the only reasons this team isn't a playoff contender.



Exactly. I don't know why people think it's almost a given that a team in the first year of a re-build can make the playoffs? Sure it can happen.. but it is not the norm.

It's all about development for the next couple of years. Gotta be patient and still support the team.
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0 #69 Sandy 2011-12-15 19:20
Quoting ShaunK:
Way to read my post and twist my words. I'm not blaming him for the breakaways, but that first goal was his fault. Sorry but an unscreened snapshot from the top of the circle in that game, in those circumstances needs to be stopped. No question.

And the Kelly goal sucked. No matter how you want to sugar coat it, it was a crap goal that never should have went in. Anderson was out on top of him and let in a softie under his arm

His timing sucks. He's letting in bad goals at bad times. End of story. Where's the Anderson from last year?


The point was WHY was Kelly allowed to get to the rebound directly in front of Anderson. He should have been put on his ass. (Sorry Kelly)
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+1 #70 DenisVial 2011-12-15 20:09
Pronger out for the year with severe concussion.
Somewhere, Dean McAmmond is smiling. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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0 #71 TEXMEXnl 2011-12-15 20:11
if filatov is on loan to the khl but has yet to sign with a team, can the sens take him back to the nhl?
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+1 #72 senskarlsson57 2011-12-15 21:33
Quoting Sensnation:
Why is Phillips bashing back? He's done a decent job and is acting as a good mentor for the young guys.

Like those who got off on our long win streak, people are just expecting too much. He is what he is, and that's a good, not great, dman. The team is what is, a good upcoming team with plenty of room for improvement but lots of heart and a never quit attitude.

I don't know how anyone can be disappointed with the team this year, and aside from Anderson, not many are underperforming.

Enjoy the ups, relax during the downs but at the end of the day it's always GO SENS GO!!!


Agree with everything except for the andy underperforming part. He isnt, I will agree on some nights he hasn't been stellar but those nights are rare. He has stolen many games for us, and I don't think we would be in the position we are in right now without him.
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0 #73 Lambchops 2011-12-15 23:51
Chirp , any rumblings on the flyers wanting Gonchar?
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0 #74 SensChirp 2011-12-16 01:07
Quoting Lambchops:
Chirp , any rumblings on the flyers wanting Gonchar?

All talk
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0 #75 SensFanInMTL 2011-12-16 01:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFGpNvYM_Ws

Just checking some random clips on the Tube. I want this guys. Maybe not in that fashion but this is it. We need to get back to back in the day. I don't wanna lose anymore. Sounds easier than supposed to be. I just want that feeling again.
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0 #76 DenisVial 2011-12-16 06:33
Marc Crawford thinks the Flyers should give us Schenn for Gonchar. Whe couldn't he be GM of the Flyers!
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-1 #77 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-12-16 08:18
Quoting ShaunK:
Way to read my post and twist my words. I'm not blaming him for the breakaways, but that first goal was his fault. Sorry but an unscreened snapshot from the top of the circle in that game, in those circumstances needs to be stopped. No question.

And the Kelly goal sucked

His timing sucks. He's letting in bad goals at bad times. End of story. Where's the Anderson from last year?


@ ShawnK,

Agree with you on part of your comment.

Anderson played fantastic against Buffalo, and normally would not play 2 games back to back.
However, I felt because he was hot, we should start him again.
Problem is , we have Buffalo's number, but the Bruins own us game in game out !

Maybe we should have started with Auld, but he has not won a single game for us. Anderson has 14 wins !!
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0 #78 Tookie 2011-12-16 09:23
Quoting Blue:

It looked almost like he stopped the puck's forward movement. I wonder if they would ever call a goal off for that...


It doesnt have to, look at the spinorama's, Datsyuk's pull back goal, the puck doesnt have to continously go forward. Your momentum has to keep going forward, Kane's goal was fine.
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0 #79 Tookie 2011-12-16 09:25
Quoting DenisVial:
Pronger out for the year with severe concussion.
Somewhere, Dean McAmmond is smiling. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.



Yeah fuck Pronger, he's a dirt bag and I'm happy he's having head issues, he's done it so much to other players.
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0 #80 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-12-16 09:33
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting DenisVial:
Pronger out for the year with severe concussion.
Somewhere, Dean McAmmond is smiling. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.



Yeah fuck Pronger, he's a dirt bag and I'm happy he's having head issues, he's done it so much to other players.


Although Pronger is a great defenceman, both offensively and defensevily, he is without any doubt "one of the dirtiest top players, I have ever seen in the NHL "
and he finally got paid back ,and may never return to play again !!
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0 #81 MethotToMyMadness 2011-12-16 09:56
I had to share this, it's TOO funny. Good to see the players having fun with the voting process:

http://www.twackle.com/sitebar?url=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F6XVHYoON
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0 #82 Spinorama 2011-12-16 09:59
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting DenisVial:
Pronger out for the year with severe concussion.
Somewhere, Dean McAmmond is smiling. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.



Yeah fuck Pronger, he's a dirt bag and I'm happy he's having head issues, he's done it so much to other players.


What goes around , comes around. His cheapshots have caught up to him. Not one bit sad to hear this but sad that it's such big news in the media. He's a douche !!
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0 #83 oakster15 2011-12-16 10:06
Lots of trade talk around today, not sure if its anything substantial, but the options are out there.

A few minutes ago Darren Dreger tweeted that Kyle Turris could be moved today.

AND

Last night Mac Crawford posted a ridiculous tweet about the Flyers making a move for Gonchar in return for Brayden Schenn. Needless to say, thats not happening, but the Flyers may move a prospect to get Gonchar to replace their empty D spot after Pronger is out for the year.

You heard anything chirp?
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-2 #84 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-12-16 10:15
Quoting oakster15:
Lots of trade talk around today, not sure if its anything substantial, but the options are out there.

A few minutes ago Darren Dreger tweeted that Kyle Turris could be moved today.

AND

Last night Mac Crawford posted a ridiculous tweet about the Flyers making a move for Gonchar in return for Brayden Schenn. Needless to say, thats not happening, but the Flyers may move a prospect to get Gonchar to replace their empty D spot after Pronger is out for the year.

You heard anything chirp?


I would tend to believe that the Flyers, are somewhat much weaker on defense, without that guy Pronger in their lineup??

Maybe we can get a forward, with enough skill to play top 6, and send Gonchar to help them ??

Would love to acquire Sean Couturier !!
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0 #85 Spinorama 2011-12-16 10:15
Quoting oakster15:
Lots of trade talk around today, not sure if its anything substantial, but the options are out there.

A few minutes ago Darren Dreger tweeted that Kyle Turris could be moved today.

AND

Last night Mac Crawford posted a ridiculous tweet about the Flyers making a move for Gonchar in return for Brayden Schenn. Needless to say, thats not happening, but the Flyers may move a prospect to get Gonchar to replace their empty D spot after Pronger is out for the year.

You heard anything chirp?


Hold on Buckeroo, Crawford's tweet is simply opinion on what Philly should do. He is not an insider. There is no substance
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0 #86 oakster15 2011-12-16 10:18
Quoting Spinorama:
Quoting oakster15:
Lots of trade talk around today, not sure if its anything substantial, but the options are out there.

A few minutes ago Darren Dreger tweeted that Kyle Turris could be moved today.

AND

Last night Mac Crawford posted a ridiculous tweet about the Flyers making a move for Gonchar in return for Brayden Schenn. Needless to say, thats not happening, but the Flyers may move a prospect to get Gonchar to replace their empty D spot after Pronger is out for the year.

You heard anything chirp?


Hold on Buckeroo, Crawford's tweet is simply opinion on what Philly should do. He is not an insider. There is no substance


Thats why I said it was ridiculous and it probably wasn't going to be happening...
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0 #87 Tookie 2011-12-16 10:27
Quoting oakster15:

Hold on Buckeroo, Crawford's tweet is simply opinion on what Philly should do. He is not an insider. There is no substance


Thats why I said it was ridiculous and it probably wasn't going to be happening...

Funny how people just jump at everything and anything, this "opinion" has been shot down by the Insiders saying the Flyers are more than ok with the group they have now, they have full confidence in their top 4, they might make a move to acquire depth but that about it.
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0 #88 57gord 2011-12-16 10:32
TSN power rankings .........We are now down to #25 and Alfie just turned 40? plus the top NHL goal scorer is not listed as being out of our lineup. Facts man just the facts.
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0 #89 AlfieforMayor11 2011-12-16 10:39
Hahaha Marc Crawford is a funny guy. No way should the Flyers trade for Gonchar. I know it may just be his opinion and not an actual rumor but how does Gonchar replace anything Pronger brings to their line-up. It just doesnt make sense. It will never happen.
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0 #90 miguel 2011-12-16 10:42
I really cannot believe that people are blaming Anderson for the loss vs the Bruins.
For the love of God we have gone through more goalies the last few years than underwear, yet the likes of Kuba (agreed playing better) Gonchar, Phillips, and Karlsson are all league leaders in minus the past few years.
All you Anderson critics,
Do you really believe that Elliot went from the league worst goalie last year, and completely written off, to the leagues best goalie this year, only because he watched some Goalie 101 videos, and read a book by Ken Dryden?
Can it not be possible that he is now playing in front of 6 d-man who are responsible and committed to D vs, 6 D-men that that either cannot play D (Philips Gonchar) or thinke they are Bobby Orr and do not need to concern themselves with their own end (Karlsson, Rundblad)
People our D's play in our own end is comical, so please stop blaming Anderson, and comend him for stealing, or keeping us in games.
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0 #91 The Apostle 2011-12-16 11:11
If you sign a long term contract after the age of 35 the cap hit stays even if you retire. Does it also remain if you are forced to retire because of injury?
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0 #92 oakster15 2011-12-16 11:15
Quoting The Apostle:
If you sign a long term contract after the age of 35 the cap hit stays even if you retire. Does it also remain if you are forced to retire because of injury?


I think there's ways around it by placing them on the LTIR for as long as possible and just keeping it hush hush. This could be the case for Pronger. He's obviously still hurting, but maybe the Flyers are keeping it quiet that he voiced he wanted to retire at the end of the year so they can keep him on the LTIR for longer? Pure speculation of course.

I'm not sure if there is an official rule stating that someone can retire and not count against the cap though.
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0 #93 Sandy 2011-12-16 11:25
Quoting oakster15:
Lots of trade talk around today, not sure if its anything substantial, but the options are out there.

A few minutes ago Darren Dreger tweeted that Kyle Turris could be moved today.

AND

Last night Mac Crawford posted a ridiculous tweet about the Flyers making a move for Gonchar in return for Brayden Schenn. Needless to say, thats not happening, but the Flyers may move a prospect to get Gonchar to replace their empty D spot after Pronger is out for the year.

You heard anything chirp?


The issue with Gonchar is he will still be on their cap next season. Not sure what the Flyers have in way of renewing contracts.. but with the new CBA coming this summer (as I kneel & pray for no strike) -- I just don't see that trade happening.
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-1 #94 Numerodooze 2011-12-16 11:39
Quoting The Apostle:
I think we are seeing exactly what sort of team we have - and I hate to say it but it reminds me of where the leafs were last year - our fight and willingness to work hard will keep us in most games, but we do not have the quality to compete with the elite teams or the mid range playoff contending teams on a regular basis.
Nobody should be shocked or dismayed by this, we aren't even one year into a full on rebuild. I think the play of the younger guys and the six game win streak confused a lot of people and gave their hope genes a kick.
Next year we will be better (again like the leafs)


Anyone who compares the Sens to the Leafs at any time, for any reason, should be banned for life from posting on this site... ;)
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-1 #95 Numerodooze 2011-12-16 11:41
Quoting 57gord:
TSN power rankings .........We are now down to #25 and Alfie just turned 40? plus the top NHL goal scorer is not listed as being out of our lineup. Facts man just the facts.


Alfie just turned 39.
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0 #96 Tookie 2011-12-16 11:48
Quoting Numerodooze:

Anyone who compares the Sens to the Leafs at any time, for any reason, should be banned for life from posting on this site... ;)


Its a great comparison, but you probably dont follow hockey that much to understand it anyways...
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-1 #97 Numerodooze 2011-12-16 11:53
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Numerodooze:

Anyone who compares the Sens to the Leafs at any time, for any reason, should be banned for life from posting on this site... ;)


Its a great comparison, but you probably dont follow hockey that much to understand it anyways...


Hockey? What's this hockey thingy you're speaking of?

Don't be so touchy Nancy19 and judging by the majority of your posts you're not exactly Scotty Bowman either....
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0 #98 Tookie 2011-12-16 12:29
Quoting Numerodooze:

Don't be so touchy Nancy19 and judging by the majority of your posts you're not exactly Scotty Bowman either....


I know and accept we're in a rebuild and not to expect too much, unlike most fans who went ape shit over a 6 game winning streak only to fall flat on their faces and wondering why we lose?!?!

This is a lottery team and its shown all year, it will get more evident as the season moves along. And we are the better for it.
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0 #99 Numerodooze 2011-12-16 13:18
@Tookie19
I see... So in your eternal quest for affirmation you feel the need to personally attack me for a post I made in response to The Apostle that was clearly tongue in cheek regarding a comparison to the Leafs. A post which I think The Apostle knew was in good natured fun considering the winky emoticon I added to the end of it.
Most people posting here know that the Sens most likely won't be a playoff team this year, possibly next as well, but that doesn't stop them from hoping for better...
So relax, take a deep breath and don't take everything so seriously. After all we wouldn't want your mom to find you expired in your basement bedroom from a stress related heart attack when she comes to bring you milk and cookies and tuck you in tonight....
Just so you know, that last part was just a joke ;P
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