Friday, 11 November 2011 11:11

The Captain Returns on 11/11/11

When Daniel Alfredsson suffered a concussion a couple weeks ago, people speculated that it could be a long term injury for the Sens Captain.

Concussions are always tough to diagnose and in the first couple days, it certainly had all the hallmarks of a serious injury. Well the normal injury standards simply do not apply to Alfie. On 11/11/11, Daniel Alfredsson is expected to return to the Ottawa line up.

While one player returns, Ottawa will be without one of their most consistent players so far this season. Chris Neil will not dress for this one as he nurses an ankle injury he suffered the other night against the Rangers. He is not expected to play in either game this weekend.

For Ottawa, the margin of defeat has been extremely narrow over the course the last three loses. Each time they have lost by a single goal and will look to return to their winning ways against a division rival.

Meanwhile, Buffalo has won three straight, including a shootout decision over the Sens last Saturday. Most recently,the Sabres topped the Jets 6-5 in OT in a game that saw the usually steady Ryan Miller give up five goals on just 31 shots. Miller has struggled in the early going this year and at times as fallen victim to the boo birds on home ice.

Jhonas Enroth is expected to get his second straight start against Ottawa.

Expect special teams to be key in this one as the Sabres come in with the 9th ranked power play and sit second in the league on the PK at 92%.  Ottawa's power play still sits fourth in the NHL but has cooled off a little bit as of late.  Having Alfie back should help with that.

Greening-Spezza-Michalek
Foligno-DaCosta-Alfredsson
Daugavins-Smith-Condra
Konopka-Winchester-Butler

Kuba-Karlsson
Phillips-Rundblad
Cowen-Gonchar

Puck drops on this one just after 7:30 PM. The game can be seen on SportsNet and TVA and is available on the radio at The Team1200. If you are looking for a stream, I suggest you keep an eye on the comment section as one often pops up in there.

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On November 11, it's important that we all take pause to remember those that have made the ultimate sacrifice in the name of this great nation. The freedoms that we as Canadians enjoy on a daily basis, exist because of the brave men and women that fought and continue fight in the name of their country. Remembrance Day is the date on the calendar when we remember those fallen soldiers but our gratitude should carry on all year round. Lest we forget...

Last modified on Friday, 11 November 2011 11:39

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-4 #1 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 11:25
I think the Sens are going to get a huge emotional boost from the Captain tonight.

As well as Michalek has played, I'd like to see Alfie inserted back on the top line tonight, just to give the team a different look.

Greening-Spezza-Alfie
Foligno-Da Costa-Michalek

Like I said, just for a different look for one game, try it out. I hope you're reading this Coach Maclean lol
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+13 #2 G-r0y 2011-11-11 11:25
Love the time posted on this one Chirp 11:11 on 11/11/11 :) made me smile.
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+7 #3 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-11-11 11:27
With Alfredsson back in the lineup, we have a much better chance at winning due to his leadership on the ice, in the room etc...

Maybe our Power Play will kickstart itself, and give us a much needed positive lift to put the puck in the net !

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!
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+4 #4 SensChirp 2011-11-11 11:40
Line ups now added to the post courtesy of Sylvain St. Laurent on Twitter. Sounds like Lee will sit out again.
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+3 #5 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 11:44
I don't like to see Lee sit, but the problem is I don't think it makes sense to sit any of our other six defensemen either, and I really don't like the idea of dressing 7 defensemen.
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+9 #6 Johne 2011-11-11 11:46
Rundblad has been outstanding, yes he may have cost us a game by a mistake, but he is a rookie... that happens, I'm just amazed at his nack for getting the puck to the net and finding the perfect pass to an open player.

Room for improvement yes, but thrilled at the look of our future blueline with the play of Karlsson and Cowen too.
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-1 #7 boom 2011-11-11 11:51
I see the reasoning behind these D pairings but watch out for Gonchar and Phillips leaving their partners exposed. Especially Gonchar. I'd rather see those two play together. I don't see either of them as being steadying influences on the kids.
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+4 #8 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 12:01
Yeah Johne Rundblad is great to watch isn't he. He's still making a few mistakes a game but he's already miles ahead of what he was during the first few games of the season.

I really think Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen all have the potential to be top pairing guys in this league. We haven't had a legitimate top pairing dman since Redden and Phillips started to go downhill, and since Chara was traded.

I wonder if Murray is already working on an extension for Karlsson. I'm sure you would have told us if you heard anything Chirp, but is there any word on what's happening with his contract negotiations?
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+2 #9 kingalfredsson 2011-11-11 12:06
Alfredsson will get a hat trick tonight :)
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0 #10 B.Baker.77 2011-11-11 12:06
Does Neil's injury have anything to do with the knee he took in the third?
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0 #11 boom 2011-11-11 12:09
Quoting B.Baker.77:
Does Neil's injury have anything to do with the knee he took in the third?

Yeah, apparently that is when he got hurt, according to MacLean.
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0 #12 SensChirp 2011-11-11 12:09
Quoting B.Baker.77:
Does Neil's injury have anything to do with the knee he took in the third?

They are calling it an ankle injury. Seems strange if it was that knee. Anybody recall if Neil came back after that collision?
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0 #13 Johne 2011-11-11 12:09
@AFM

Now I think we have offensive dmen on lockdown, we really need to work on finding Defensively responsible replacements for Gonchar and Kuba. I think Gryba and Borowiecki are those replacements.

I've lost track of who plays on what side, but I hope next years pairings (by some miracle we trade Gonchar) look like this:

Cowen-Phillips
Lee-Karlsson
Gryba-Rundblad

Borowiecki can be used as a dman or forward and brings in a huge toughness factor.
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0 #14 Tcharger 2011-11-11 12:10
afm 11

traded??? Chara was an ufa...there was no trade. And the sens knew as soon as the rope and doped hossa chara wasn't resigning
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0 #15 Johne 2011-11-11 12:15
I was really excited about the signing of Konopka in the offseason, I really liked what I saw from him with the isles last year. Let's just say I've been less than impressed with him this season. Anyone else feel that way? I know its hard having higher expectations for a 4th liner.
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0 #16 SensChirp 2011-11-11 12:15
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

I wonder if Murray is already working on an extension for Karlsson. I'm sure you would have told us if you heard anything Chirp, but is there any word on what's happening with his contract negotiations?

Nothing on Karlsson yet. League rules say that anyone on an ELC can not sign a new deal until January 1.
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+6 #17 Spinorama 2011-11-11 12:24
Quoting Johne:
I was really excited about the signing of Konopka in the offseason, I really liked what I saw from him with the isles last year. Let's just say I've been less than impressed with him this season. Anyone else feel that way? I know its hard having higher expectations for a 4th liner.


Dear Johne,
Don't worry, Konopka's presence is being felt in the dressing room. Showing guys how to cheat on faceoffs and being a voice in the room. He doesn't complain when he is not playing and is a good vet to have on the team. Worth keeping in my books.
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0 #18 childerhose 2011-11-11 12:27
I'm really interested in the results of this road trip because I think it will be a good evaluation on how the team will do for the rest of the year. We play some very strong teams like the Canucks, Oilers (hopefully what the Sens will look like in a year or two), Pittsburgh (hoping Crosby isn't back by then for our sake), and as much as it pains me to say it the Leafs (despite the great rivalry, even as a Sens fan they have been a great team this year, hard to hate on a hardworking, young team when you're team is also young and hardworking). Then there's Buffalo, who with a strong team effort, we can beat and we have no excuses not to win against Calgary who are pretty much in the same position we were a year a go. The only factor that kind of throws a monkey wrench in this is Neil being out, but if we are seriously going to push for a playoff spot or a lottery pick this road trip will be a good indicator.
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0 #19 Floridasensfan 2011-11-11 12:28
Quoting Johne:
I was really excited about the signing of Konopka in the offseason, I really liked what I saw from him with the isles last year. Let's just say I've been less than impressed with him this season. Anyone else feel that way? I know its hard having higher expectations for a 4th liner.


I liked the signing for our face offs and toughness but it seems we are playing hockey more than fighting these days.

With our young guys the way they are playing makes him not as relavant.

I am not dissapointed with his play but not WOW either.
I would prefer Filatov had his ice time, even on the last line, Filatov Winchester Butler could do some damage if they got in the groove.

Konopka is not hurting us I don't think and he is another vet as said above.
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0 #20 Johne 2011-11-11 12:34
@FloridaSensfan

My thoughts are pretty similar. I expected him to be more of a difference maker, but Neil has clearly taken over that role. Maybe we'll see more of the Konopka I expected with Neil out of the lineup. Not sure I would bring him back next year, gotta make room, but I do think he has those leadership qualities that will rub off on the kids this season.
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+1 #21 Sens Fan That Likes Beer 2011-11-11 12:35
Good Post :) With our leader back all the players should be easily motivated.with neil out its going to be tough players need to step up foligno or smith . Condra on the third line is a good idea his speed and player type is perfect. GO SENS GO REMEMBER TODAY IF WE DIDNT HAVE THE MILITARY WE WOULDNT HAVE HOCKEY AND OUR AMAZING COUNTRY SUPPORT THE TROOPS
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0 #22 Hax 2011-11-11 12:36
Quoting Floridasensfan:
I liked the signing for our face offs and toughness but it seems we are playing hockey more than fighting these days.


Well ZK isn't even taking draws most nights (Winchester and Smith have both taken the draws when ZK was out there) and as much as I like ZK he doesn't "fight" as much as grapple.

I think the biggest gain we've got from him is the character he brings (Alfie comments for example) and of course depth.
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+1 #23 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 12:39
Quoting Tcharger:
afm 11

traded??? Chara was an ufa...there was no trade. And the sens knew as soon as the rope and doped hossa chara wasn't resigning


sorry my bad... didn't mean traded lol how I miss that giant..
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+1 #24 T K 2011-11-11 12:41
I hope that Alfie's recovery progresses better than that of Dean McAmmond. He wasn't the same guy after the Pronger cheapshot (& Downey's crap didn't help either)
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+1 #25 Johne 2011-11-11 12:50
Hagman clears waivers lol. Wow has he ever fallen off.
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-1 #26 Tcharger 2011-11-11 12:53
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting Tcharger:
afm 11

traded??? Chara was an ufa...there was no trade. And the sens knew as soon as the rope and doped hossa chara wasn't resigning


sorry my bad... didn't mean traded lol how I miss that giant..



I wish we had traded him....gotten something for him.
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+1 #27 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 12:57
Quoting Tcharger:
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting Tcharger:
afm 11

traded??? Chara was an ufa...there was no trade. And the sens knew as soon as the rope and doped hossa chara wasn't resigning


sorry my bad... didn't mean traded lol how I miss that giant..



I wish we had traded him....gotten something for him.


I wish we had just given him Redden's money and kept the guy.
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+2 #28 Da lil guy 2011-11-11 12:58
Might be a good opportunity for one of the guys further down the depth chart to step up and have a chance on the powerplay. MacLean has steadily positioned guys (Greening and Neil) in front of the net on both powerplay units. Will be interesting to see if someone steps into Neil's role here.
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+1 #29 Da lil guy 2011-11-11 13:00
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
I wish we had just given him Redden's money and kept the guy.


The suggestion that's often made is that despite what was said at the time, Chara had no intention of re-signing here while Muckler remained GM due to his treatment of Hossa.
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+1 #30 Tcharger 2011-11-11 13:01
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting Tcharger:
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting Tcharger:
afm 11

traded??? Chara was an ufa...there was no trade. And the sens knew as soon as the rope and doped hossa chara wasn't resigning


sorry my bad... didn't mean traded lol how I miss that giant..



I wish we had traded him....gotten something for him.


I wish we had just given him Redden's money and kept the guy.



he wouldn't have accepted it...as soon as we traded Hossa he was gone.
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+1 #31 Johne 2011-11-11 13:04
The whole Chara vs Redden fiasco is something we just have to swallow. Yes it's hard to swallow and hindsight is always 20/20. It really was just an unfortunate timing for us because we really had very little precedence to go with the new cap era. Chara wanted lotssssss of money, you think back at what the bruins gave him and basically everyone thought WOW thats nuts. But now it looks good cause the cap kept going up and players wanting that type of money is now common. Redden had also come off of a VERY good season. I'd say the biggest reason to have picked Chara over Redden is because there will likely not be another Chara for a long time. That size and skill just usually don't go together.
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+1 #32 Canucnik 2011-11-11 14:28
Gentlemen, you guys add to the Chara "Saga" in every re-telling...Mu cks drags out the negotiations with both parties but Chara has an offer from Boston $7 plus mill. At the last minute Ottawa signs Redden for $6.5...Chara says OK I'll for go Boston's offer and take $6.5 also...Mucks says sorry Big Zee I don't have the money...it was not bull sh*t we had to pick one or the other...what a pick! The "OLD" Edmonton Oiler took the Western Canadian...old hockey bias...$6.5 million mistake...
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+1 #33 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 14:43
The more I think about how important Alfie is to the Sens, I can't help but wonder who is going to fill his shoes when he retires. He's going to leave a massive hole to fill on this team when he's done.
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+1 #34 Hax 2011-11-11 14:51
AFM11 - I think Spezza is slowly getting ready to take the lead. He'll be a different kind of captain of course, and won't fill the void on his own, but at the same time maybe that's good. Maybe having leadership spread around Spezza, Michalek and others will be better down the line than all of our hopes riding on one guy.

Or heck, maybe Alfie becomes the special teams coach?
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+1 #35 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 14:58
Quoting Hax:
AFM11 - I think Spezza is slowly getting ready to take the lead. He'll be a different kind of captain of course, and won't fill the void on his own, but at the same time maybe that's good. Maybe having leadership spread around Spezza, Michalek and others will be better down the line than all of our hopes riding on one guy.

Or heck, maybe Alfie becomes the special teams coach?


I'm not too worried about replacing his leadership, I'm more concerned about replacing his on-ice production. He's almost a point a game player in his career, and I don't really see anyone on our team currently or within the organization who has point per game potential, other than Spezza of course.
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+2 #36 boom 2011-11-11 15:08
@AlfieforMayor1 1
I think you're right to be concerned - we have a lot of potential in the system, but without the benefit of having had top 5 picks in the last few years, there aren't any sure-fire offensive prospects. I may be in the minority, but I still have some hope for Filatov...not alot, but some...
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+1 #37 Sens18 2011-11-11 15:16
Is this not te weekend when many fans are going on the Senschirp bus?
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+1 #38 conservativeHippie 2011-11-11 15:18
Dunno if the future captain will be spezza. Not that he is undeserving, but when I think leadership this year, I think Chris Neil.
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+1 #39 boom 2011-11-11 15:19
Quoting Sens18:
Is this not te weekend when many fans are going on the Senschirp bus?

I'm not absolutely sure, but I think that was cancelled?
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+2 #40 MethotToMyMadness 2011-11-11 15:26
Exicted to watch this game tonight, the return of Alfie will no doubt be electric to the team. I'm expecting a quick start from Ottawa, forcing Buffalo into a few early penalties. With Alfie on the top PP unit, I have a feeling we'll capitalize. Looking forward to seeing Alfie thread the needle to Karlsson who'll be waiting with his stick fully wound ready to drop the bomb!!

Go Sens Go!!
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0 #41 my2sens 2011-11-11 15:28
Was at the last game vs. the Rangers, and I loved the way the boys played.

With #11 on the ice to lead the way, hopefully we can chalk a W.

Loving Da Costa and Rundblad. My only complaint of Rundblad (yes I know he's a rookie) he needs to shoot more from the point.

Here's to a great game! Here's to Alfie's 11th game of the season... Here's to Michalek 11th goal and Spezza's 11 assist... Butler's 1st and Anderson's 1st donut! 1 it up!

**SIDE NOTE** THANK YOU TO ALL VETS NEW/OLD/DEPARTE D - I was in Afghanistan in 2004-2005 and you guys don't get half the credit you deserve. GOD BLESS!

GO SENS GO!!! CANADA ROCKS!!!!!!!
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0 #42 John Q. Spartan 2011-11-11 15:34
Can someone give me one shred of proof that Chara left because we traded Hossa. People seem to spew that out like it's 100% proven fact, when in fact it seems to be mere speculation.

It also seems to be a way for people to attempt to rationalize such a boneheaded organizational decision.
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0 #43 Hax 2011-11-11 15:36
Quoting conservativeHippie:
Dunno if the future captain will be spezza. Not that he is undeserving, but when I think leadership this year, I think Chris Neil.


Well that would be somewhat of a change in direction. While I agree and we likley both like Neil for the same reasons, the fact that he's basically third alternate seems to mean that Spezza is next in line (assuming he skips over Phillips).

Lots can change between now and then of course.

I also think it's foolish to look to one guy to replace him on the ice. It's going to come from a team progression where all our young guys each provide a little bit more, not one guy sliding in to take over point-for-point .
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+1 #44 Hax 2011-11-11 15:38
Quoting John Q. Spartan:
Can someone give me one shred of proof that Chara left because we traded Hossa. People seem to spew that out like it's 100% proven fact, when in fact it seems to be mere speculation.

It also seems to be a way for people to attempt to rationalize such a boneheaded organizational decision.



I've never seen any proof. Nor for the "I want to be captain" theory for that matter.

Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. At the time I felt Redden better suited the "new NHL" so I can't claim to be smarter than Muckler (sadly).
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0 #45 SensChirp 2011-11-11 15:48
Yea unfortunately the trip had to be cancelled. Still cant believe we couldn't find enough people interested in a trip like that.
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+1 #46 boom 2011-11-11 15:50
Quoting Hax:
Quoting John Q. Spartan:
Can someone give me one shred of proof that Chara left because we traded Hossa. People seem to spew that out like it's 100% proven fact, when in fact it seems to be mere speculation.

It also seems to be a way for people to attempt to rationalize such a boneheaded organizational decision.



I've never seen any proof. Nor for the "I want to be captain" theory for that matter.

Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. At the time I felt Redden better suited the "new NHL" so I can't claim to be smarter than Muckler (sadly).

Exactly! I also thought Redden was the right choice at the time. People forget (or choose to forget) that Chara looked bad the previous year, and was exposed by quicker teams.
They also forget that Chara's first year in Boston was pretty forgettable too. Hindsight, however, is always 20-20.
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+2 #47 Peluso 2011-11-11 16:03
Chirp, nicely done on posting at 11:11 11/11/11.

I hate Buffalo by the way. Shit town, shit fans, shittier version of Niagara Falls, shit football team, crap logo, city named for an animal with chronic dingle berries, and a coach who would have been beaten badly by our GM if given the chance.

I hope we crush the Sabres, and their goalie pulls a groin.

5-2 Sens.

-Peluso
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0 #48 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-11-11 16:05
Quoting John Q. Spartan:
Can someone give me one shred of proof that Chara left because we traded Hossa. People seem to spew that out like it's 100% proven fact, when in fact it seems to be mere speculation.

It also seems to be a way for people to attempt to rationalize such a boneheaded organizational decision.


That situation, was something that should have never happened, but we lost Chara eventually, because Muckler
was stuck in deciding who to keep ( Chara or Redden )

I believe Hossa was traded to Atlanta for Heatley during the same period, which was a real zoo !
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+1 #49 Sandy 2011-11-11 16:21
I agree about Konopka, Johne... BUT the one thing he is doing is helping the young centres on faceoffs in practices. It appears to be working. But his play on the ice.. I find he takes too many penalties.. but maybe a lot of that has to do with his reputation. Not sure if he is brought back next season... with Zibanejad and Silfverberg most likely in the lineup.. there may not be a spot for him.

Well said about Remembrance Day Chirp. I watch it every year and think of my Dad who passed away a few years ago. He was a veteran of WWII.

Hoping for a Sens win tonight. The B-Sens grads should know how to beat Enroth -- they defeated him and his team in the Calder Cup playoffs last season.
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+1 #50 Sandy 2011-11-11 16:24
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting Tcharger:
Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting Tcharger:
afm 11

traded??? Chara was an ufa...there was no trade. And the sens knew as soon as the rope and doped hossa chara wasn't resigning


sorry my bad... didn't mean traded lol how I miss that giant..



I wish we had traded him....gotten something for him.


I wish we had just given him Redden's money and kept the guy.



Agreed.. can you imagine Chara as the mentor for our young D? What an example he could have been. Curse you Muckler.
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+1 #51 Lorien 2011-11-11 16:28
Quoting SensChirp:
Yea unfortunately the trip had to be cancelled. Still cant believe we couldn't find enough people interested in a trip like that.


I was totally interested and wanting to go, however it conflicts with a work trip, so I couldn't. :(
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+3 #52 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-11-11 16:47
Amazing how relaxed and smooth, the flow of the Game Day post has become, with not an ounce of negativity to be seen or heard thru 52 posts !!

Hope we win this game, and that the posters after the game are all positive, instead of negative and constantly bashing our team , like the Rangers game produced !
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0 #53 hamany 2011-11-11 17:04
i'd like to see FOLIGNO WITH SPEZZA!
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0 #54 Sandy 2011-11-11 17:22
A little off topic.. but I was disappointed with the attendance at the Russia/OHL game in Ottawa last night. I thought it would be near a sellout.

Great young skilled players were exciting to watch. Never heard of Freddie Hamilton until last night... WOW. And Strome was very good as well. Spooner.. I could go on and on.

At one point Yakopov stayed on the ice too long on a shift and as the play went into his defensive end.. he laboured to the bench -- OHL goes in and scores a goal on that shift. He was a little greedy there. BUT he is a shifty player and fast.
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0 #55 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-11-11 18:26
Would really be nice if Alfie scores at 11:11 of the 1st tonight! :-p
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0 #56 hedpucker 2011-11-11 18:43
please tell me someone is streaming...... ....please
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0 #57 hedpucker 2011-11-11 19:12
streamers where are you ?
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0 #58 Dorkiewicz 2011-11-11 19:13
it's a 7:30 start, so lots of time for streamers to post a link
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0 #59 Canucnik 2011-11-11 19:22
Hax: Chara was told he couldn't stay...it was money (Hossa was long gone out of the picture)...but if you remember the (Dressing) Room was split, Big Z, Havlat and the Euros vs Alfie and the Canadians...we cut off our nose to spite our face...remember also the Waterbugs of Buffalo had just embarassed us in our own rink in the play offs...Chara was supposed to be too slow...over the hill...accordin g to many Experts from Tranna, Muckler believed them...
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0 #60 Dorkiewicz 2011-11-11 19:28
OK, now the streamers are cutting it a little close...

Can a brutha get a link?
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0 #61 x N!C x 2011-11-11 19:31
http://castalba.tv/embed.php?cid=4200&wh=600&ht=380&r=atdhenet.tv

looks like this one is working! enjoy!
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0 #62 Swesens 2011-11-11 19:36
Found a stream. Seems to work

http://www.ilemi.me/33872/1/Watch-Buffalo-Sabres-vs-Ottawa-Senators/
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+2 #63 MattZ 2011-11-11 19:48
Jesus Christ Anderson. Are you kidding me.
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+1 #64 ZipZapRap 2011-11-11 19:49
Ok, if ever there was a time for our PP to Click, it's now
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+1 #65 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-11-11 19:51
Craig Andersiv.
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0 #66 ZipZapRap 2011-11-11 19:52
BOOOOOOOOOOM We have a game again lol
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0 #67 The Silfver Surfer 2011-11-11 19:54
As each game goes by never would of thought i would say this but its lookin like we shouldve held onto Elliot. But who woulda known Anderson would be shittin the bed and Elliot would breaking out. Thats just the way it goes i guess.
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0 #68 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-11-11 19:54
1 goal game.
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0 #69 ShaunK 2011-11-11 19:55
I hope they review the goal after the period and give Spezza the assist that he should be credited with. They only gave one to Karlsson
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0 #70 Dorkiewicz 2011-11-11 20:00
Are those feeds stopping/starti ng for anyone else? Arrrrrrrghhhh
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0 #71 hq 2011-11-11 20:01
sens defense is playing weird tonight....way too passive.
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0 #72 ZipZapRap 2011-11-11 20:09
Quoting ShaunK:
I hope they review the goal after the period and give Spezza the assist that he should be credited with. They only gave one to Karlsson



On NHL.com they have Spezza down for the 2nd assist

P.S. There is a cool pic on the NHL home page 11 11 11 Alfie day
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0 #73 hq 2011-11-11 20:11
man what is the sens defense upto tonight....ugh
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0 #74 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-11-11 20:11
On that last goal, if you look at Kuba he's got absolutely NOBODY picked up. Standing around looking like a big doofus.
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0 #75 ZipZapRap 2011-11-11 20:12
Special teams baby, let's do it again, get back in this

Sabres PK 92% lol
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+2 #76 AlfieforMayor11 2011-11-11 20:14
Yak...
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0 #77 hq 2011-11-11 20:14
lol i know its not the case....but i feel the refs are trying hard to let the sens back in the game.
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0 #78 Swesens 2011-11-11 20:15
Found a better stream

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91304/1/watch-buffalo-sabres-vs-ottawa-senators.html
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0 #79 The Silfver Surfer 2011-11-11 20:15
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
On that last goal, if you look at Kuba he's got absolutely NOBODY picked up. Standing around looking like a big doofus.


Leopold also skated right by Spezza while he was just standing there too unfortunately.
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0 #80 ZipZapRap 2011-11-11 20:16
Classic Sens Hockey right there lol

Penalty in the neutral zone on a PP
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0 #81 hq 2011-11-11 20:16
yea but auld gave up a weak one over there also. why did anderson have to shit all over himself today :s
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0 #82 The Silfver Surfer 2011-11-11 20:17
On a positive note Rundblad is hella-awesome with the puck woohoo!
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0 #83 Dorkiewicz 2011-11-11 20:19
Quoting Swesens:
Found a better stream

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91304/1/watch-buffalo-sabres-vs-ottawa-senators.html



THANK YOU!
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+1 #84 hq 2011-11-11 20:20
weird game. doesnt have a good flow to it.....not that much fun to watch. buffalo leads by 2 but sure isnt playing like it should be. anderson!!!!! get back to form already
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0 #85 T K 2011-11-11 20:25
Game against Rangers also had a strange rhythm to it too
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0 #86 The Silfver Surfer 2011-11-11 20:27
i think the stache should be trying rundblad and karlsson together on the powerplay after seeing gonchar skating into the zone and then just giving the puck away on the PP compared to rundblad skating thru 3 players getting deep into the sabres zone and not giving the puck away when its 5 on 5.
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0 #87 Sandy 2011-11-11 20:35
Quoting Canucnik:
Hax: Chara was told he couldn't stay...it was money (Hossa was long gone out of the picture)...but if you remember the (Dressing) Room was split, Big Z, Havlat and the Euros vs Alfie and the Canadians...we cut off our nose to spite our face...remember also the Waterbugs of Buffalo had just embarassed us in our own rink in the play offs...Chara was supposed to be too slow...over the hill...according to many Experts from Tranna, Muckler believed them...


Chara was also playing with a broken hand.
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+1 #88 richardson711 2011-11-11 20:51
i love how alfie is moving! i keep expecting him to be one of those old player that has to rely on his smarts more than his speed and skill but i see he still has both in abundance!!
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0 #89 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-11-11 20:54
Smith shud have scored.
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+1 #90 Tcharger 2011-11-11 20:55
Quoting Canucnik:
Hax: Chara was told he couldn't stay...it was money (Hossa was long gone out of the picture)...but if you remember the (Dressing) Room was split, Big Z, Havlat and the Euros vs Alfie and the Canadians...we cut off our nose to spite our face...remember also the Waterbugs of Buffalo had just embarassed us in our own rink in the play offs...Chara was supposed to be too slow...over the hill...according to many Experts from Tranna, Muckler believed them...


why do you make shit up?? Chara wasn't told he couldn't stay, he flat out said "because of the way Hossa was treated I will not resign here" Chara bring a class act agreed to not go public with his reason so as to allow the organization to save some face.

This is not speculation but fact.
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+1 #91 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-11-11 21:13
The thing that's frustrating about this game, is that Buffalo isn't even playing that good.

It's hard to see that the only difference between us and winning is poor, inconsistent goaltending. It seems that every time our goalie plays even decent, we do well. Why? Because the team IS good enough to win. But for some reason, only Ottawa goalies out of all the goalies in the entire league let in the soft one's :S
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-2 #92 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-11-11 21:24
the season is back on track ....NAIL !!!

Trade Spezza for Richards

Lose Anderson 4 million lol wow..... start the Lehner era !!!

Lose half ass players : butler daug condra winnie

Rebulid the right way young and talented !!!!!!!!!!!
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+1 #93 ZipZapRap 2011-11-11 21:43
Go Phillip's! earn that "A"

3 years in hell boys LOL
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0 #94 hamany 2011-11-11 21:53
SENS SSSSSUUUUUUUUUK KKKKKKKKK! C'MON I JUST WANT TO HAVE A NICE 5 GOAL WIN
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0 #95 hamany 2011-11-11 21:56
IT WOULD OF BEEN A BETTER SCORE IF NEIL WAS PLAYIN
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-2 #96 Rob2 2011-11-11 22:00
You-al still loving Murray ? now we know why no other GM would touch Anderson, Not one of his trades ever worked out.
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0 #97 DenisVial 2011-11-11 22:05
Quoting Rob2:
You-al still loving Murray ? now we know why no other GM would touch Anderson, Not one of his trades ever worked out.


And you are??? Oh, I know, you've been waiting to make your first comment on here but needed to feel like you had something intelligent to say. Chirp, can you please set up another site for the idiots who would rather we lose all 82 games this year?
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0 #98 PraiseAlfie84 2011-11-11 22:06
Man, going to that game tomorrow at the ACC is gonna be scary....

Edit: START LEHNER!
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+2 #99 Tcharger 2011-11-11 22:08
I can't believe people still expect better than this....Guys it is a rebuild, the 6 game winning streak was an anomaly. At best it was an early sign of what could be to come, more likely it was just a complete fluck...we happened to play above our potential against below average teams.

if you are hoping for more than what has been demonstrated in the last 4-5 games you guys are sure in for a long ass season.
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0 #100 Rob2 2011-11-11 22:10
OMG this is going to be a long 2 - 3 years, they are really not in to it, not sure why everyone is so hi on Greening ?
nice work Murray. my company has a booth at SBP and I said 2 yrs ago I would never go to another game and i never did. now i cant watch them on TV my eyes started bleeding lol
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+1 #101 hedpucker 2011-11-11 22:13
goalies really been letting us down lately,
I expected th kids to make a lot of mistakes
and expected to lose more than win for awhile
but was totally unprepared to lose because of goaltending
I hope these two can bounce back like I've seen them in the past,my only question now is who starts next......
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-1 #102 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-11-11 22:13
Time too be serious about the rebuild ...

Spezza philips kuba Anderson winnie condra butler .....All deadline bait


Lets rebuild seriously
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+2 #103 Tcharger 2011-11-11 22:13
Quoting hedpucker:
goalies really been letting us down lately,
I expected th kids to make a lot of mistakes
and expected to lose more than win for awhile
but was totally unprepared to lose because of goaltending
I hope these two can bounce back like I've seen them in the past,my only question now is who starts next......



Lately??? Goalies have always been this teams undoing.
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+2 #104 hedpucker 2011-11-11 22:15
Quoting FAIL4NAIL:
Time too be serious about the rebuild ...

Spezza philips kuba Anderson winnie condra butler .....All deadline bait


Lets rebuild seriously


Silly ..........among other things
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0 #105 Rob2 2011-11-11 22:16
Denis Vial
Carful its pretty easy finding people on this site
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+1 #106 Floridasensfan 2011-11-11 22:21
We outshot them big time, their goalie was solid and our D and goalies not so much.

Gonchar with the lone goal.

lots of season left for them to get it together.

Shake it off Anderson
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0 #107 DenisVial 2011-11-11 22:30
Quoting Rob2:
Denis Vial
Carful its pretty easy finding people on this site


Are you going to fly to Calgary and meet me at the bike rack after school because I get annoyed at all the negative first time posters that start appearing with each loss? I'm terrified.
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0 #108 Canucnik 2011-11-11 22:31
T-Charger:

I don't know where you have been or who you think you know but the dressing room split was a fact...the Buffalo defeat at the hands of Briere, Roy and Pominville (the waterbugs) was a fact...and most importantly it was Boston's new GM Peter Chiarelli and Chara's agent who went public about how it all went down...go back and read the Boston Globe...
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+1 #109 Sandy 2011-11-11 22:35
Quoting Rob2:
OMG this is going to be a long 2 - 3 years, they are really not in to it, not sure why everyone is so hi on Greening ?
nice work Murray. my company has a booth at SBP and I said 2 yrs ago I would never go to another game and i never did. now i cant watch them on TV my eyes started bleeding lol


That's your perogative to not go see them because they are struggling during this re-build. But when they start winning in the future... don't come back. If you can't be with and support your team in the bad times then perhaps you go find another team to support -- one that only wins.

I assume you have not seen Greening play all year? It's obvious by your statement -- or you can't comprehend that players do have bad games.

Fair weather fans really piss me off.

Also time to get a new goalie coach.
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0 #110 timwrx 2011-11-11 23:04
B-Sens keeping pace lost again...
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0 #111 Sandy 2011-11-11 23:06
Quoting timwrx:
B-Sens keeping pace lost again...


What seems to be their problem? Is it injuries... callups or just too young and inexperienced team. How has Lehner been?
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-1 #112 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-11-11 23:18
I agree Lehner should be called up and play.

The bald goalie emperiment just aren't working out...
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+1 #113 MoeDozer 2011-11-11 23:56
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
I agree Lehner should be called up and play.

The bald goalie emperiment just aren't working out...

lehner is currently bald too..just saying. well shaved head
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+7 #114 KGV 2011-11-12 00:06
Well, this is certainly the looks of a team in rebuild. As a full season ticket holder I have to say that the product on the ice this year is better (for entertainment value) that the last two years and I will be continuing to support this team as they go through the pains of a rebuild.

For those who have stopped getting tickets because they are not winning, there is an easy solution for you. Go out and buy a jersey for each of the other 29 teams. That way you can switch throughout the year to whichever team is playing the best that week. If that is what it takes to make you feel like a winner then go for it.

Meanwhile, I'll be cheering with all the other REAL Sens fans and watching this team get better over the next few years. The rebuild is easy to love if you look to see the improvements in our young players instead of just looking at win/loss column.

GO SENS GO!
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+1 #115 SensChirp 2011-11-12 04:55
Quoting KGV:
Well, this is certainly the looks of a team in rebuild. As a full season ticket holder I have to say that the product on the ice this year is better (for entertainment value) that the last two years and I will be continuing to support this team as they go through the pains of a rebuild.

For those who have stopped getting tickets because they are not winning, there is an easy solution for you. Go out and buy a jersey for each of the other 29 teams. That way you can switch throughout the year to whichever team is playing the best that week. If that is what it takes to make you feel like a winner then go for it.

Meanwhile, I'll be cheering with all the other REAL Sens fans and watching this team get better over the next few years. The rebuild is easy to love if you look to see the improvements in our young players instead of just looking at win/loss column.

GO SENS GO!

Yes!
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-1 #116 anonymustache 2011-11-12 07:43
I think people are confusing being a re-building team with being a lazy team. I had no issues with the losses up till the Rangers game, because I saw effort in those other games and the games were close enough, where we had a chance to win each of those losses.

Since the Rangers game however, it has been different. It's frustrating to see our vets screwing the pooch. I understand some of the errors of some one like Rundblad who is still adjusting to the NHL. But please tell me what the excuse is for Gonchar and Anderson? These 2 idiots have been way too inconsistant. This is what pisses me off as a fan. We need the highly paid guys to step up and teach the youth on this team, not cost us games!

I'm all for the re-build but Murray needs to stop overvaluing these vets and over-paying for them. Really re-build!

Go Sens Go!
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0 #117 Turf 2011-11-12 09:31
Quoting anonymustache:

I'm all for the re-build but Murray needs to stop overvaluing these vets and over-paying for them. Really re-build!

Go Sens Go!


Who cares if Murray is overpaying for some of the vets, doesn't matter, they need to meet cap floor and their presence is needed in the dressing room. Sure it's hard to watch sometimes but in a few years you will be a very very happy fan.

Trust the re-build and leave it to Sens brass. In the mean time just sit back and enjoy watching the young guys develop.

GO SENS!!!
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+2 #118 miguel 2011-11-12 10:12
Quoting Rob2:
OMG this is going to be a long 2 - 3 years, they are really not in to it, not sure why everyone is so hi on Greening ?
nice work Murray. my company has a booth at SBP and I said 2 yrs ago I would never go to another game and i never did. now i cant watch them on TV my eyes started bleeding lol

REALLY
and then people wonder why things get nasty.
Hey Rob2 you remind me of my 10 year old son,
let me guess your favorite team last year was Boston
before that Chicago,
and earlier I am sure you were a Pens fan,
and in the 80's an Oiler and Islander fan,
in the 70's a Habs fan,
but never a laff fan, right?
Bud in 2 years we all beg you PLEASE do not pull out your Sens jersey ever again!
Thanks for you 1 cent.
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+1 #119 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-11-12 10:39
Quoting miguel:
[quote name="Rob2"]OMG this is going to be a long 2 - 3 years, they are really not in to it, not sure why everyone is so hi on Greening ?

REALLY
and then people wonder why things get nasty.
Hey Rob2 you remind me of my 10 year old son,
let me guess your favorite team last year was Boston
before that Chicago,
and earlier I am sure you were a Pens fan,
and in the 80's an Oiler and Islander fan,
in the 70's a Habs fan,
but never a laff fan, right?
Bud in 2 years we all beg you PLEASE do not pull out your Sens jersey ever again!
Thanks for you 1 cent.


@ MIGUEL,

Agree with some of your words , but at the same time, you come across like Tookie, and it might start a back and forth attack, that we have seen enough of, in previous topic with over 230 comments.

You and Tookie were both out of bounds !!!!
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0 #120 miguel 2011-11-12 10:53
@Senior Snoopy, I do read and respect your posts
but here, with all due respect I extremely disagree
like Tookie??? ouch that hurts... and a little offside.
Rob2 threw a very nasty remark, and all I did was respond to the nasty remark,
Tookie loves to stir the pot, yet you expect some of us to sit back and let false remarks go by without a simple comment to expose their remarks, as errors or ill intentions,
I am sorry if I offend you and/or others, that is not my purpose, but if posters want to antagonize and bully some of us Sens fans, I will not simply accept or ignore it without correction.
Again Sorry if I have offended anyone... other than Rob2
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0 #121 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-11-12 11:22
[quote name="miguel"]@ Senior Snoopy, I do read and respect your posts
but here, with all due respect I extremely disagree
like Tookie??? ouch that hurts... and a little offside.
Rob2 threw a very nasty remark, and all I did was respond to the nasty remark,
Tookie loves to stir the pot, yet you expect some of us to sit back and let false remarks go by without a simple comment to expose their remarks, as errors or ill intentions,

@ MIDUEL,
Your explanation is accepted, and I agree with your rebutal,
but I was simply trying to avoid possible confromtation with Rob 2, who is truly not a regular poster, but comes across as an instigator and havoc creator like Tookie !!

Once again do not feel as though I challenged your comment,
but rather, that I wished no more bickering after yesterday's disaster of a day !!
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0 #122 miguel 2011-11-12 11:29
@Snoopy Senior,
fair enough my good man,
just wanting to defend my Sens that's all, and of course Rob2 and others are all more than entitled to their opinion, but then again so should I be,
its all in the name of enjoying our hockey
Lets hope Anderson gets back to where he should be tonight, and we pump the leafs,
Go Sens Go
Now back to Saturday chores :)
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0 #123 timwrx 2011-11-12 11:43
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting timwrx:
B-Sens keeping pace lost again...


What seems to be their problem? Is it injuries... callups or just too young and inexperienced team. How has Lehner been?



Combination of everything. The D is atrocious. We lost 125 points between Benoit/Smith/Ki nrade. I am sorry but Wiercoch is a spazz down here. Gryba is playing like he did at the start of last year. Weak. We have no vets. Locke hurt, Daugs up, Parrish old and hurt. Too many ECHL level players. This league and in particular division are way too good at this level. Oh well what's another 38 years right? ;)
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0 #124 timwrx 2011-11-12 11:46
Lehner has been decent down here, but with the D in front of him, his numbers will be horrendous unfortunately.
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0 #125 miguel 2011-11-12 12:22
Quoting timwrx:
Lehner has been decent down here, but with the D in front of him, his numbers will be horrendous unfortunately.

that is really too bad to hear about Wiecoch and Gyrba.
I know that I has high hopes on those two.
How about Hoffman, Filatov, Borowiecki?
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0 #126 Engin 2011-11-12 13:01
Quoting Sandy:


Also time to get a new goalie coach.


Take no offense Sandy but you do realize that the Hockey Club lost at least $10 million last year. One of the main reasons was that the team keeps changing coaches and are still paying the salaries of the fired ones. Also remember this is a re-build so why would you fire the goalie coach while he is in second season with the club while Lowe and Wilson got 4-5 years to work with our goalies.
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0 #127 timwrx 2011-11-12 13:40
Quoting miguel:
Quoting timwrx:
Lehner has been decent down here, but with the D in front of him, his numbers will be horrendous unfortunately.

that is really too bad to hear about Wiecoch and Gyrba.
I know that I has high hopes on those two.
How about Hoffman, Filatov, Borowiecki?


I feel that with Gryba and Wiercoch they have no body pushing or challenging them for ice time other than Boro who is playing well. Filatov hasn't done anything since the first time sent down. Hoffman could be really good if he doesn't try to do too much. He gets caught out quite a bit with decision making.
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0 #128 Sandy 2011-11-12 16:36
Quoting Engin:
Quoting Sandy:


Also time to get a new goalie coach.


Take no offense Sandy but you do realize that the Hockey Club lost at least $10 million last year. One of the main reasons was that the team keeps changing coaches and are still paying the salaries of the fired ones. Also remember this is a re-build so why would you fire the goalie coach while he is in second season with the club while Lowe and Wilson got 4-5 years to work with our goalies.


He APPEARS to not be helping the goalies. I did not see the start of the game BUT it appears Anderson made lazy mistakes on those 2 goals. At this stage of his career that is unacceptable. He needs to stay focused and if he can get back to play his usual game.. the he will be alright.
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0 #129 Sandy 2011-11-12 16:39
Quoting timwrx:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting timwrx:
B-Sens keeping pace lost again...


What seems to be their problem? Is it injuries... callups or just too young and inexperienced team. How has Lehner been?



Combination of everything. The D is atrocious. We lost 125 points between Benoit/Smith/Kinrade. I am sorry but Wiercoch is a spazz down here. Gryba is playing like he did at the start of last year. Weak. We have no vets. Locke hurt, Daugs up, Parrish old and hurt. Too many ECHL level players. This league and in particular division are way too good at this level. Oh well what's another 38 years right? ;)



I really wished the Sens could have found a way to unload Kuba & Gonchar to keep two of Benoit/Smith or Kinrade. That all played really well down the stretch last year.. and they would be better now.
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0 #130 timwrx 2011-11-12 21:18
I think its great that Smith made Calgary out of camp. Really shows how far he has come.
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