Sunday, 25 September 2011 09:11

Neil Scores Twice in Sens Win

On Friday night it was the Habs that staged a comeback as Ottawa let a 3-0 lead slip away on home ice.

On Saturday night, it was the Senators turn as they rallied from two goals down and scored a 3-2 win on a late goal by tough guy Chris Neil.

With the win, the Senators moved their preseason record to 2-1-1 and now head to Newfoundland for the Hockeyville game against the Winnipeg Jets.

The battle for that second line centre position continues to be one of the most prominent in this camp and last night it was Da Costa who looked like the guy that's ready to grab the spot. 

He has show a little bit of chemistry with Michalek

Solid, hard working game from Chris Neil last night.  He was credited with the tying goal after his pass banked off a couple skates and later converted a Filatov pass for the go-ahead goal late in the game.  Neil will be looked at as one of the leaders on this team this year and he looks like he is ready to embrace that role.

David Rundblad was one of the most talked about players heading into this camp but he looks like he is in tough to grab a spot with the big club.  While he has improved as camp has moved along, he is still adjusting to the North American game.  Rundblad has indicated he's not sure whether he would accept a demotion to Bingo or head back to Sweden but he certainly would benefit from some time in the AHL.

Paul MacLean has a tough decision ahead of him.

The team is expected to announce more cuts when they return from St. John's, Newfoundland.  After that, the team will have just two preseason games remaining and will begin to finalize the line up during match ups with the Leafs and Bruins.

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0 #1 Floridasensfan 2011-09-25 08:19
If Rundblad is serious about making the NHL he will go to bingo, if he is not he will go back to sweden.
I would like to see him make the team but if not, bingo is an extended training camp.

I also think Zibby is going back to sweden, he is getting a taste of what is required but I don't think quite ready.
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+3 #2 Hogan 2011-09-25 08:20
Neil laid a couple of crushing hits too, like the one at the bench right before the first Sens goal. It so important to have that type of guy to protect the developing players.

I think Da Costa has shown he deserves a spot, great vision and good hands.

I want to see Condra make more of an impact, so far he's seemed weak on the physical play and is rushing the shot everytime from a distance.
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0 #3 SensChirp 2011-09-25 08:23
Some of you may have noticed we were hit by a hacker earlier this morning. The problem has sorted itself out for now but clearly it may happen again.

If it does, please know that we are doing everything we can to get things back on track.

Thanks for your patience.
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+1 #4 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-25 08:29
The decisions to be made by MacLean and Sens Organization, are becoming more and more complex, with the play of some
prospects who are battling for positions.

Cuts will have to be made, but I would be careful in not
making them too early, and wait till last minute, just before October 7, when Sens play their season opener in Detroit !

Rockin Robert
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-1 #5 senskarlsson57 2011-09-25 08:59
I see the forward lines on opening day as the following:

Butler-Spezza-Alfie
Filatov-Da Costa-Michalek
Foligno-Regin-Condra/Greening
Neil-Konokpa-Smith

Extra: Condra/Greening
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-1 #6 The Apostle 2011-09-25 09:15
I don't like Alfie on the top line this season but we might be forced to play him there.

BB/JS/NFil looks weak defensively and in terms of strength on the puck.

Michalek has never shown any real chemistry with Spezza but might have to be given another try.
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+1 #7 Tcharger 2011-09-25 09:22
There is absolutely no reason to have Alfie playing top line minutes. NO matter how many people here have rose coloured glasses we will not be making the playoffs. imho playing him there will all but ensure he wont have another run with us in a couple years.
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0 #8 Tcheu 2011-09-25 09:43
I noticed that we are playing the leafs six times this season and always as a second night game.

The league really wants us to lose the battle of Ontario this year.

Anyway, another nice pre-season game by the sens. It took two periods for Neil to understand that he needs to move his feet to fit in Maclean's system. Love the speed that this team his showing so far.
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+1 #9 Timic 2011-09-25 10:05
I'm not sure that a Filatov/Spezza/ Butler line would be that weak defensively judging by Spezza's play last year and Filatov's play in the pre-season. Even so, let the defenders defend as they provide first line offense.
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+2 #10 The Apostle 2011-09-25 10:05
Alfie has a different leadership role on the team now. Before he was THE guy, carrying the team in every situation and running himself into the ground for the team and for the fans.

If not this year, then very soon, this is Spezza's team. Alfie's leadership is now just as, maybe more, important off the ice with so many young guys around.

The guy shouldn't be playing on the top line, he'll be a more genuine threat on the 2nd line now and seeing decent PP time.

He shouldn't even get close to the PK unit now. Coach after coach ran him into the ice, which is understable because the guy was everything to this team. I don't think MacLean makes the same mistake.
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+1 #11 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-25 10:17
Agree with Tcharger and The Apostle,

Alfie is back from serious injury, going to be 39 this December, and needs to conserve his available energy,
and his legs !

Would love to see him on 2nd line made up from last year's
success, before he had to quit on Feb 7 2011.

Foligno - Regin - Alfredsson

If Regin does not win the 2c, then it might be Da Costa .

Rockin Robert
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-3 #12 Andrews Theory 2011-09-25 10:40
alfie should be on the second line w 9 mm and da costa.

not sure on the third person with spezza and filatov...ideal ly someone stronger on the puck than butler though.
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+1 #13 Tizzy 2011-09-25 10:41
Hey guys, I recently moved to Leafs nation, I am a devoted Sens fan but can't watch any games. I tried going to the nhl site for centre ice but it says "not available for this season" What should I do? Thanks!
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+1 #14 senskarlsson57 2011-09-25 10:59
Quoting Tizzy:
Hey guys, I recently moved to Leafs nation, I am a devoted Sens fan but can't watch any games. I tried going to the nhl site for centre ice but it says "not available for this season" What should I do? Thanks!


Get the centre ice package on bell TV, u can watch all 82 sens games! :)
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0 #15 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-25 11:06
Quoting Tizzy:
Hey guys, I recently moved to Leafs nation, I am a devoted Sens fan but can't watch any games. I tried going to the nhl site for centre ice but it says "not available for this season" What should I do? Thanks!


You need to call your cable/sat provider and order center ice. If you're with Rogers, you'll have to pay for the entire "Super Sports" package which is $30/month. I lived in TO for 3 years and we would've died without it!

Also, if you're in downtown TO and looking for a Sens friendly bar to watch a game, look no further than Grace O'Malley's.... http://www.gracies.ca/home.aspx

Always lots of Sens fans in there! It's on Duncan and Pearl, just a block north of King St
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0 #16 oakster15 2011-09-25 11:10
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Agree with Tcharger and The Apostle,

Alfie is back from serious injury, going to be 39 this December, and needs to conserve his available energy,
and his legs !

Would love to see him on 2nd line made up from last year's
success, before he had to quit on Feb 7 2011.

Foligno - Regin - Alfredsson

If Regin does not win the 2c, then it might be Da Costa .

Rockin Robert


So where do you want Michalek? Butler and Filatov need top 6 ice time to be productive in any sense so they'll be 1st or 2nd line players. I see the lines like this

butler - spezza - filatov
michalek - da costa - alfie
foligno - smith - greening
neil - konopka - regin (on the wing?)

extras: winchester, condra

we have a lot of extra forwards in our bottom 6 so it'll be interesting to see if murray makes a deal.. no idea how it will shape up in the end
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0 #17 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-25 11:20
to oakster 15,

You do mean Filatov - Spezza - Butler

Second line could be a few combos

Michalek - Da Costa - Alfredsson is one of the few combos.

Guess we need to wait and see who makes the grade ! ??

Rockin Robert
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+1 #18 Mitchell 2011-09-25 11:24
@Oakster15

Your close to the way I see it.

Filatov-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-Regin/Da Costa-Alfredsson
Foligno/Greening-Winchester/Da Costa/Regin-Condra
Smith-Konopka-Neil
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+1 #19 m410 2011-09-25 11:33
I like these Swedish players. But I'm starting to think maybe we should draft fewer of them. Takes longer to develop if they keep wanting to go back to Sweden instead of bingo. Karlsson did the right thing and did his time in bingo. Now look at him! If Runblad was serious about playing in the NHL this season he would go to bingo and continue to get used to the North American game.
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0 #20 Hogan 2011-09-25 11:35
Quoting Tizzy:
Hey guys, I recently moved to Leafs nation, I am a devoted Sens fan but can't watch any games. I tried going to the nhl site for centre ice but it says "not available for this season" What should I do? Thanks!


I watch NHL Gamecenter on NHL.com. I had the Centre Ice package for TV but they still black out most of the games. I find the online system is the only one that gives you almost all the games.
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+1 #21 oakster15 2011-09-25 11:55
Here's a question.. If the Leafs can put Jeff Finger on waivers ($3.5 mil salary) why won't the Sens management put Kuba on waivers ($3.7 mil salary)?

Its quite obvious to everyone that he's been playing terrible hockey the past 2 years and has had multiple chances to redeem himself. If Murray hasn't been able to trade him for the past couple years why keep trying? He has little to no value.

Put him on waivers and send him down on the Bingo bus already..
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+1 #22 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-25 12:09
To oakster 15,


Answer to your question is all about $$$$
Leafs have too much of it, Sens have lost $14 million last year. That loss is exactly what Heatley got paid for his last season as a Senator : $10 million for the season and $4 Million as his bonus on July 1st, before trade to Sharks !

Kuba is gonna become a 7th defenceman soon !

Rockin Robert

Put him on waivers and send him down on the Bingo bus already..
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-2 #23 PraiseAlfie84 2011-09-25 12:20
The only reason I can imgaine we are keeping Kuba is to deal him at some point at the season or at the TD and get something back for him. I just can't see this working though, even in the pre-season games he lookes soooooo slow, players on opposing teams can easily catch him flat-footed and rush right by him. He's so beyond useless it's painful...

Unless the Sens are serious about tanking this year, which I don't belive they are, but it would be the only other reason to keep that useless d-bag on the team!
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+1 #24 Sens_247 2011-09-25 12:33
Not entirely sure Runblad will start the season in Bingo; or Sweden if he goes back. I really liked his game last night, he looked poised with the puck, created offense in Montreal's zone, and was making good first passes. I feel as though the night off really benefited his play, and if I see the same level of improvement next game, he just might be part of this roster come October 7th. This kid is going to be unreal, you can just tell he's going to be a very good defensement in this league.

As for Zibanejad, although he's physically ready for the NHL, because he's having trouble adjusting to the speed, I feel as though he's adopted a grinder role/mentality, making him destined for a 3rd or 4th line; not what the organization wants. Baring an improvement, let him go back to the SEL to work his skills and superstar status. That way he won't accept being anything other than a star in the NHL. He doesn't yet have that certain cockyness that goes with being an NHL superstar
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0 #25 stevrock 2011-09-25 12:42
Quoting Hogan:
Quoting Tizzy:
Hey guys, I recently moved to Leafs nation, I am a devoted Sens fan but can't watch any games. I tried going to the nhl site for centre ice but it says "not available for this season" What should I do? Thanks!


I watch NHL Gamecenter on NHL.com. I had the Centre Ice package for TV but they still black out most of the games. I find the online system is the only one that gives you almost all the games.


With my provider, if I order Centre Ice they hook me up with GameCentre for free. Basically paying $170 for GameCentre and getting Centre Ice for $30.
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+2 #26 SensChirp 2011-09-25 13:00
Don't know the combinations just yet but these are the players headed to Newfoundland to take on the jets.

McKenna,Auld

Cowen, Phillips, Lee, Rundblad, Carkner, Gryba, Karlsson

Alfredsson, Regin, Greening, Smith, Butler, Neil, Parrish, Locke, Cowick, Grant, Dziurzynski, Hoffman, Zibanejad
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+3 #27 Sandy 2011-09-25 14:14
Quoting Tcheu:
I noticed that we are playing the leafs six times this season and always as a second night game.

The league really wants us to lose the battle of Ontario this year.

Anyway, another nice pre-season game by the sens. It took two periods for Neil to understand that he needs to move his feet to fit in Maclean's system. Love the speed that this team his showing so far.


That could be up to 12 points for the Leafs this season -- not saying they win every game.. but they are put in a situation to.

I know computers pick the schedule.. but I really find it an oddity of every game of the 6 is the 2nd game in a back to back. I can see maybe selecting 3 or 4 games that way.. but every one? Really makes you wonder.
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-1 #28 Sandy 2011-09-25 14:17
Quoting oakster15:
Here's a question.. If the Leafs can put Jeff Finger on waivers ($3.5 mil salary) why won't the Sens management put Kuba on waivers ($3.7 mil salary)?

Its quite obvious to everyone that he's been playing terrible hockey the past 2 years and has had multiple chances to redeem himself. If Murray hasn't been able to trade him for the past couple years why keep trying? He has little to no value.

Put him on waivers and send him down on the Bingo bus already..


That would put them below the cap floor.. which is not allowed.
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0 #29 Sandy 2011-09-25 14:19
Quoting SensChirp:
Don't know the combinations just yet but these are the players headed to Newfoundland to take on the jets.

McKenna,Auld

Cowen, Phillips, Lee, Rundblad, Carkner, Gryba, Karlsson

Alfredsson, Regin, Greening, Smith, Butler, Neil, Parrish, Locke, Cowick, Grant, Dziurzynski, Hoffman, Zibanejad


Hopefully they put Greening in the lineup to play against his hometown fans. Would like to see Gryba get a game.. sit Carkner.

Rundblad seems to be slowly adjusting. Do you think it would be better just to keep him and let him learn in the NHL? He won't learn anything more in Sweden..
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0 #30 newfie-xyz 2011-09-25 14:24
Any talk of who the sens are sending to NL tomorrow. I am able to catch this game and am very curious
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0 #31 111519 2011-09-25 14:24
filatov spezza butler
michalek dacosta alfie
foligno regin greening
neil konopka smith

Phillips Karlsson
Gonchar Cowen
Kuba Lee

Anderson

This is your starting line up people.
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+1 #32 Sandy 2011-09-25 14:59
Quoting 111519:
filatov spezza butler
michalek dacosta alfie
foligno regin greening
neil konopka smith

Phillips Karlsson
Gonchar Cowen
Kuba Lee

Anderson

This is your starting line up people.



Missing Condra -- he will be in the starting lineup
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0 #33 SensChirp 2011-09-25 15:10
Quoting newfie-xyz:
Any talk of who the sens are sending to NL tomorrow. I am able to catch this game and am very curious

Scan up three comments.
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+1 #34 Tcharger 2011-09-25 15:26
God there is no conspiracy against the Sens...comments like that are the reason we have such a shitty reputation
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0 #35 fireball8992 2011-09-25 15:51
Quoting Sandy:
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Missing Condra -- he will be in the starting lineup


Put him at the 3rd line RW, Greening is a LW/C. Pretty easy fix lol.
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0 #36 Sandy 2011-09-25 16:30
IF Dacosta makes the O-Sens... they have too many forwards. Can you see Murray making a trade? -- or is it too early in the season.
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0 #37 NickG 2011-09-25 16:46
I don't think the Jets have released their lineup yet, but I don't expect it to be stacked.

It will be their 3rd game in 3 nights.

Should be an easy win for the Sens.
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+1 #38 SensChirp 2011-09-25 18:00
Quoting Sandy:
IF Dacosta makes the O-Sens... they have too many forwards. Can you see Murray making a trade? -- or is it too early in the season.

It's a tough time of year to unload guys because there will be a number of teams looking to do so.
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0 #39 simple jack 2011-09-25 18:23
looks like it'll be a fun season, atleast better than the last two.

Dacosta might start in bingo as a first line center for a few months until murray can make a trade or two.

just curious why are you guys saying zibanejad cant play in bingo? he's 18 and an international player, i believe he can play anywhere. chl players are tied to their junior team until they are 20 unlees they make the big club.

i'd rather watch rundblad and zibanejad play in ottawa while making the odd learning mistake then watch kuba and company blow tires and produce brain farts while lowering the teams morale as they blow leads and sink our season.

besides, runblad and zibanejad in the nhl will be able to learn the nhl and be better and more experienced for next season.

cheers!
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-2 #40 Andrews Theory 2011-09-25 18:38
@simple jack,

someone clarified this for us a couple weeks back. it has some to do with the trade agreement with the sel. from what i understood.

ie. if he makes the nhl squad while under contract in the sel. he can play in the nhl (not sure if they buy out the contract or what) if he doesnt make the nhl, he has to go back to sweden and fulfill his contract.
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0 #41 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-09-25 18:44
Quoting Andrews Theory:
@simple jack,

someone clarified this for us a couple weeks back. it has some to do with the trade agreement with the sel. from what i understood.

ie. if he makes the nhl squad while under contract in the sel. he can play in the nhl (not sure if they buy out the contract or what) if he doesnt make the nhl, he has to go back to sweden and fulfill his contract.


So, what stops the Sens from buying out his contract with the SEL in Sweden, and then sending him to Bingo , for further development ??

Rockin Robert
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-2 #42 Andrews Theory 2011-09-25 19:16
I'd assume it violates the agreement in some way but I really dont undrestand the ins and outs of it...

Im sure someone will chirp in with a more thorough understanding.
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0 #43 Mr Hockey 2011-09-25 19:39
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=38126

This blog from Travis Yost seems to indicate that he can legally opt out of his SEL contract. It doesn't reference anything concrete or give the conditions though.
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0 #44 lbernier 2011-09-25 19:45
I think even Chip would agree with me that with the log jam of forwards, at the end of the camp, you will see a trade happen to move one or packaged in a trade with a defenseman. Sens are going to look to move Kuba, and look to move someone like Winchester for a pick I am guessing
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0 #45 simple jack 2011-09-25 21:15
if he plays 1 nhl regular season game his contract with his sel team is void.

i believe he would be on a 2 way contract with ottawa, or he would atleast be eliigible to be sent down until 9 nhl games are played without penalty. he should stay and play in Na.
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0 #46 simple jack 2011-09-25 21:20
since this is preseason and its time to play without risk, i would like to see a karlsson/rundbl ad pairing... it could be great to see and the swede connection could boost rundblad's confidance and gameplay.

i would also like to see zibanejad/regin /alfredson play together.
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0 #47 lbernier 2011-09-25 21:30
Simple Jack it would be Regin on the wing on that line combo not Zabanejad imo, and Karlsson and Rundblad combo would be intresting to see, but I would rather see Cowen and Karlsson.
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+1 #48 gcjager 2011-09-25 22:14
Quoting simple jack:
if he plays 1 nhl regular season game his contract with his sel team is void.

i believe he would be on a 2 way contract with ottawa, or he would atleast be eliigible to be sent down until 9 nhl games are played without penalty. he should stay and play in Na.


while I agree that he should play in N.A. From what I understand, there is an agreement in place between the sel and NHL that stipulates that any player under contract to the sel can only
come across the pond if they play in the NHL at which point the team would buy him out. I believe the only thing stopping the sens from taking zibby over and then not playing him in the NHL is the fact that they'd be fucking the agreement between the sel and the NHL
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+2 #49 Canucnik 2011-09-25 22:21
Sandy you keep a sharp eye on those Tranna guys @ head Office...the Zebra have already started to condition us for the reguler season.

T-charger watch the games...see the calls...Burke thinks he should have the dirtiest, least penalized team in the league and he does...
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