Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:13

Sens Invite 59 Players to Camp

The Ottawa Senators have announced the names of the 59 players that will be invited to this year's camp. 

Not many surprises among the group that will include 6 goalies, 16 defenceman and 37 forwards.  All of the players from this year's rookie tournament will also be at the main camp.

The roster will be divided into three teams and looking at the rosters you can already see some potential line combinations taking form.  Spezza, Filatov and Butler will all be on the same roster while a second team includes Da Costa, Zibanejad, Alfredsson and Michalek.

May be reading too much into the rosters but it's possible MacLean may be looking to try certain combinations right off the bat.

  • Machovsky, Anderson
  • Kuba, Conboy, Carkner, Wiercioch, Godfrey, Karlsson
  • Kramer, Greening, Smith, Butler, Spezza, Filatov, Locke, O'Brien, Culek, Downing, Grant, Stone

 

  • McKenna, Auld
  • Cowen, Raymond, Gonchar, Gryba, Schira
  • Michalek, Prince, Alfredsson, DaCosta, Parrish, Pageau, Cannone, Lessard, Hamilton, Cowick, Gratchev, Hoffman, Zibanejad

 

  • Stewart, Lehner
  • Phillips, Lee, Rundblad, Fransoo, Borowiecki
  • Puempel, Regin, Foligno, Winchester, Petersson, Condra, Daugavins, Neil, Konopka, Noesen, Dziruzynski, Caporusso
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0 #1 Hogan 2011-09-14 16:45
Get out of there Lessard
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+2 #2 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-14 17:17
Thats what i See ...

Top 6
Filatov Spezza Butler
Michalek Zibanejad Alfredsson

Defence
Gonchar Cowen
Kuba Karlsson
Philips Rundblad/Lee

Carkner Extra
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0 #3 Eric1212 2011-09-14 17:48
yeah pretty much what I see too
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+2 #4 hussain 2011-09-14 18:33
gonchar-cowen is epic!
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+2 #5 UnderScore 2011-09-14 18:42
I wonder if Michalek will develop some chemistry with one of our 2 young Centers - Zibanejad & Da Costa???
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+2 #6 SensFanInMTL 2011-09-14 18:56
I'm also hoping for the best for Michalek this year (as everyone else is). He has the potential to be a 30 goal scorer and is always overlooked. If he is able to play the full 82 games or at least more than 75, he could put up the numbers. This will be his 3rd season in Ottawa (times go by fast eh?) and with a stacked line up for years to come, if Milan is unable to put up the numbers he should be, seeing as if he makes top dollars, then I'm afraid it might be time to start moving bodies. We can afford to in the long run seeing as Filatov, Da Costa, Zibanejad, Stone, Puempel and many others will develop into big time players for years to come. With that said, I hope Michalek sticks around for the rebuild. Good luck Milan we're all pulling for you.
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-3 #7 Pete 2011-09-14 19:00
That leave me with the lines


Filatov - Spezza - Butler
Michalek - DaCosta - Alfy
***Foligno - Z Smith - Greening
Neil - Konopka - Condra

Regin, Winchester

Philips - Lee
Gonchar - Cowen
Karlsson - Kuba

Carkner

***Where the 3rd line forwards are made out of players from each of the 3 groups.
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+3 #8 Prusek 2011-09-14 19:07
It doesn't surprise me that Alfredson is with De Costa and Zibanejad. Ideally if Zibanejad does make the team having him with two veteran wingers like Michalek and Alfredson eases the stress of a 18 year old second line centre. Besides Spezza is showing he makes players around him better (i.e. Regin, Greening, Buttler the last few years) and the team is more balanced with Alfredson playing on another line.
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-2 #9 Sensnation 2011-09-14 19:42
I really like that Stone is in the 1st group, worth a look. Same with Greening and Condra. The mix mash of the 3rd grouping of forwards is interesting, could be some surprise chemistry there with those playing styles.

Let's get this thing going!
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+1 #10 Round Leaf 2011-09-14 20:00
I don't think the groups are ordered. They seem pretty balanced to me.
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+5 #11 Prusek 2011-09-14 20:02
I didn't watch any of the rookie games so what were peoples impressions of Noesen and Puempel? I'm sort of surprised that there isn't much said about them. Yes the Sens got Zibanejad because of how poorly they played last year and he is the more blue chip prospect, however Noesen and Puempel are the product of trading away Fisher and Kelly and are first round picks that might have had more attention if not for drafting Zibanejad. In short, if Cowen, Zibanejad, Rumblad, Lehner and Karlson turn into players they can be a good team, however if Noesen and Peumpel become top 6 forwards the "rebuild" by the Murray's could be great.
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0 #12 SkipOPot2Mus 2011-09-14 20:27
A little glimpse of the new sens jersey on ottawasenators. com oct. 1st cant wait.
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+1 #13 The Apostle 2011-09-14 20:46
I though Noesen looked really good. Worked hard, seemed to develop chemistry quickly with Grant and Cowick. battled along the boards and was quicker than I was expecting.

Puempel was, i thought, less impressive but he is coming off a significant injury so that migyt account for the fact he looked relatively rusty.
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0 #14 Lurker 2011-09-14 21:29
Quoting The Apostle:
I though Noesen looked really good. Worked hard, seemed to develop chemistry quickly with Grant and Cowick. battled along the boards and was quicker than I was expecting.

Puempel was, i thought, less impressive but he is coming off a significant injury so that migyt account for the fact he looked relatively rusty.


That was pretty much my impression too.

It didn't show up as much on the scoresheet but Noeson was creating opportunities and making things happen. I thought he deserved more attention than he was getting since everyone was focusing on some of the other higher profile players. I really liked his game though.

Puempel didn't look out of place but didn't do anything extraordinary either. I would attribute it to rust as well.
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+2 #15 BigSensFan 2011-09-14 21:50
I think a line of Michalek - Zibenejad - Alfredsson could be leathal (assuming they all saty healthy)

I also like the thought of Spezza with Filatov
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0 #16 SENSational 2011-09-14 22:04
Could someone please answer this for me.. If we keep Zibanejad past 9 games in the NHL, then from that point we completely buy out his SEL contract. From there we have him as our property free and clear don't we? So why after the 10 games could we not send him to Bingo? I still would rather see Zbad play 25 minutes a night in Bingo than 8 minutes per night in Ottawa (assuming he's not lights out in the NHL). Same goes for Rundblad and Cowan. If they don't impress the hell out of the coaching staff why not have both of them play 30 minutes a night as a top pairing tandem in Bingo then ship out one or two of our D (Kuba, maybe Carkner) at the deadline then bring up Rundblad and Cowan. It scares me when I see guys like Gagne/Cogliano and where they are now. Both were highly touted prospects and I think Edmonton fucked up their potential by forcing their development. They were put in the NHL too quickly and now it's gonna take a lot for them to rebound.
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+1 #17 WantEggRoll 2011-09-14 22:16
If Mika stays longer then 9 games and they owned him free and clear I guess they could send him to Binghamton. However if they send him back to Sweden and he gets first/second line minutes in the SEL they don't lose a year on his entry level contract and he gets to develop a ton. In the salary cap world ELCs are a big deal with really good players because as soon as they expire your going to be paying them big money, so most GMs likely want to be careful about exactly when they start the clock.
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-6 #18 111519 2011-09-14 22:55
filatov spezza butler
michalek da costa alfie
foligno zibby regin
konopka smith neil
greening

gonchar cowen
karlsson phillips
lee kuba
rundblad/carkner

this team could make the playoffs

but do we want them to???
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-1 #19 SENSational 2011-09-15 01:10
Ah i c, thanx man. Guys like Toews though for example, had high point totals at a young age but in a sense that was to the Blackhawks advantage. At 21, he's getting around 70 something points and his new contract was based off of that. Assuming he hasn't hit his prime (or point total plateau)the hawks have him for the next 5 years at a decent salary (around 5.5 mill I think)and during this time he could easily eclipse 70 points and take it to the next level. I'm not saying Zbad will be on Toews level but maybe burning one year off of his ELC while he plays in Bingo with top minutes may not be a bad thing (for Ottawa financially)and for Zbad's development (small ice service, more physical style). In my opinion I still believe the AHL is the best development league for possbile NHLers in the world. Guess we'll all have to see what happens.
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-1 #20 SensFanInMTL 2011-09-15 02:11
Phuck! Reading all the multiple line combinations from you guys is really getting all of us excited for the season! It's gonna be a great one. And no, we're not winning the cup just yet but with that many talent the only obstacle is time. And in time, we will do well.
As for people wanting to see a glimpse of the new jersey, everyone check out the Sens' main page before choosing the language. If the font of Alfie's 11 is what it will be, obviously different from the one we're used to seeing, then I cannot wait to get Spezza's. Just 3 more weeks boys!
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-1 #21 boom 2011-09-15 07:59
@SENSational
" In my opinion I still believe the AHL is the best development league for possbile NHLers in the world"
Be careful expressing that opinion - i tried saying that a few weeks ago and got laughed at...
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-1 #22 Andrews Theory 2011-09-15 09:05
i dont think zbad is eligible to play in the ahl due to his age same deal with stone and a bunch of the other kids.
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-2 #23 Hogan 2011-09-15 09:08
The good thing is that these top picks aren't facing the pressure situation Spezza came into when he was breaking into the league and the Sens had an expectation to go deep into the playoffs.

Let them develop in the AHL/Sweden whatever, still lots of young talent to watch and hopefully they unload Gonchar / Kuba at deadline and make room for a franchise signing of
Parise / Hemsky / Semin with the cap space
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0 #24 miguel 2011-09-15 09:19
Quoting Prusek:
I didn't watch any of the rookie games so what were peoples impressions of Noesen and Puempel? I'm sort of surprised that there isn't much said about them. Yes the Sens got Zibanejad because of how poorly they played last year and he is the more blue chip prospect, however Noesen and Puempel are the product of trading away Fisher and Kelly and are first round picks that might have had more attention if not for drafting Zibanejad. In short, if Cowen, Zibanejad, Rumblad, Lehner and Karlson turn into players they can be a good team, however if Noesen and Peumpel become top 6 forwards the "rebuild" by the Murray's could be great.

Really like Noeson, he has jam, and speed, and will be a pest to play agianst,
but Poempul did not hit my expectations, but it is stille extremely early!
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+2 #25 miguel 2011-09-15 09:26
Quoting 111519:
filatov spezza butler
michalek da costa alfie
foligno zibby regin
konopka smith neil
greening

gonchar cowen
karlsson phillips
lee kuba
rundblad/carkner

this team could make the playoffs

but do we want them to???

Sorry but this mind set is frustrating,
I cannot understand how any fan could argue with success... we cheer for them to win, so absolutely we want them to have success and make the playoffs, once there anything can happen, especially with a decent goalie who can get hot for extended periods of time
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0 #26 Hogan 2011-09-15 09:45
Quoting miguel:
Quoting 111519:
filatov spezza

this team could make the playoffs

but do we want them to???


Sorry but this mind set is frustrating,
I cannot understand how any fan could argue with success... we cheer for them to win, so absolutely we want them to have success and make the playoffs, once there anything can happen, especially with a decent goalie who can get hot for extended periods of time


I agree, anything can happen in playoff hockey (look at Calder Cup on a smaller scale).

Plus any fan knows this has been a loooong summer so I would rather a first or second round exit then for them to tank
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+2 #27 jakester 2011-09-15 10:06
I think that the SENS are going to surprise a lot of people. Hell if we make the playoffs - we'll still get a decent player in the draft. + nothing stopping us from unloading some extra guys for picks again(at the deadline).By then guys like Petersson and Hoffman will be ready for a call up. Having our cake and eating it too.
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0 #28 spezzerman 2011-09-15 10:10
always, always, always play to win. what, at least 3 teams in the last ten years who finished 8th have made the SCF. Drafts arent everything, just ask Detroit.
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0 #29 sdsd 2011-09-15 10:13
sdfsf
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+1 #30 gcjager 2011-09-15 10:16
For all those talking about Zbad in the AHL, fr what I understand there is a contractually agreement between the SEL and the NHL that stimulates that any player drafted from the SEL and under contract to the SEL can inu be taken from the SEL if they make the NHL squad at which point the NHL team involved would buy out the SEL contract. To me that means Zbad plays in the NHL or the SEL and rules out the AHL
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0 #31 gcjager 2011-09-15 10:17
That was messy. Stupid phone
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0 #32 WantEggRoll 2011-09-15 10:21
Quoting Andrews Theory:
i dont think zbad is eligible to play in the ahl due to his age same deal with stone and a bunch of the other kids.


This has been gone over soooo many times I don't see why people still don't understand. Age has nothing to do with AHL eligibility(wel l obviously they have to be over 18.), the 20-21 year old limit is ONLY for CHL players. The whole point is to make sure teams can't just pluck up all the best CHL players and leave those teams barren, so if they aren't ready for the NHL, they have to send them back to their junior team until they are 21.

Players coming from Europe or even the US are able to go to the NHL or AHL right away. The only reason Zibanejad isn't able to head directly to the AHL is due to the fact that he still has one year on his contract with his SEL team. Next year if he still isn't NHL ready he could go to the AHL, or back to the SEL like Silfverberg.
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0 #33 spezzerman 2011-09-15 10:39
sorry, should clarify; drafting high isnt everything. drafting in general is obviously very important :)
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+4 #34 JRMcPeeWee 2011-09-15 10:40
There is alot of talk about Filatov on the first line, The guy couldn't even stay in the nhl last year so why is he now all of a sudden on the top line ? I hope he pans out but don't jump on his back if he doesn't live up to these crazy expectations.
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0 #35 St Nick 2011-09-15 10:47
Training Camp

My guess as to who the first 19 players cut will be & the 40 guys left:

Machovsky, Godfrey, Conboy, Downing, Culek, Stone, Kramer, Prince, Pageau, Gratchev, Raymond, Cannone, Hamilton, Puempel, Noesen, Fransoo, Stewart, Cowick & Caporusso.

Team 1:
Filatov - Spezza - Butler
Greening - Locke - Petersson
Hoffman - Grant - Condra
Z. Smith - Winchester - Lessard

Kuba - Karlsson
Wiercioch - Gryba
Boroweicki - Carkner

Anderson - McKenna

Team 2:
Michalek - Regin - Alfredson
Foligno - Da Costa - Parrish
Daugavins - Zibanejad - O'Brien
Dziruzynski - Konopka - Neil

Gonchar - Rundblad
Phillips - Lee
Cowen - Schira

Lehner - Auld
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+5 #36 andyman998 2011-09-15 10:54
Filatov - Spezza - Butler
Michalek - Regin - Alfy
Foligno - Z Smith - Greening
Neil - Konopka - Condra

Winchester

Philips - Lee
Gonchar - Cowen
Karlsson - Kuba

Carkner

Don't rush Zibby...let him develop in the SEL and save a year off his contract.

Let Rundblad develop in the AHL anbd get used to the smaller ice.

Da Costa can be a first line player in the AHL and be the first call-up if somebody gets injured.

I think they need to give Regin a good 20 games at least to see if he can hack it at he 2C position. if it doesn't work out try to package him up for picks and bring up Da Costa.

Same goes with Kuba...hope he has a bounca back year and raises his value enough that they can get a decent return for him halfway through the year. At that point you can bring up Rundblad.

Rushing these kids to the big show is not the best strategy IMO.
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0 #37 spezzerman 2011-09-15 11:24
Quoting JRMcPeeWee:
There is alot of talk about Filatov on the first line, The guy couldn't even stay in the nhl last year so why is he now all of a sudden on the top line ? I hope he pans out but don't jump on his back if he doesn't live up to these crazy expectations.


Filitov is an riskless gamble. if he isnt playing with SPezza, I dont think he plays at all
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+2 #38 Pasky 2011-09-15 11:28
Filatov-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-Zibanejad-Alfie
Foligno-Regin-Greening/Condra
Smith-Konopka-Neil
Winchester

If Z-bad doesn't make the team

Filatov-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-Regin-Alfie
Foligno-Smith-Greening
Condra-Konopka-Neil
Winchester

Karlsson-Gonchar
Phillips-Lee
Kuba-Cowen
Carkner
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0 #39 Mr. Anderson 2011-09-15 12:17
Unless Regin really comes out and just looks awful you got to think he's got the inside track with being between Alfie and Michalek. They obviously want to test Regin with some lesser players to see if he can make those around him better and not drag them down. As well as giving Zibanejad and Da Costa time to show what they can do between the two vets.

Also interested to see where they place Smith, Condra and Greening. Anyone else think they might move Foligno to center and have play between Condra and Greening and move smith to wing instead of making him a 3rd line guy right now? Or is that just counter productive seeing as most have him as the replacement for Kelly going forward?
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0 #40 MethotToMyMadness 2011-09-15 12:23
@ Sandy

Off topic here, in the comments section from Rookie Camp Wrap Up yesterday you were asking about Couturier and if Philly had rookie games. They don't have a tourny by the sounds of it, but they are playing a rookie game tonight against the Washington Rookies at 5PM EST. I found out it's being broadcast from the Philly website with play by play.

You can see the roster they have for it here: http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=588527

Couturier and Schenn are on the list, along with Blake Kessel on the D who just signed an ELC with Philly. Anyone else think the New York Islanders are kicking themselves now for not signing this kid after the draft? Or was there a reason I'm not aware of?
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+1 #41 Sandy 2011-09-15 12:31
Quoting Andrews Theory:
i dont think zbad is eligible to play in the ahl due to his age same deal with stone and a bunch of the other kids.


He was drafted out of Europe.. different rules than the CHL... They can play in the AHL at age 18 -- CHL players have to be 20 or have played in the CHL for 4 yrs... I think that's how it works.
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0 #42 Sandy 2011-09-15 12:34
Quoting Mr. Anderson:
Unless Regin really comes out and just looks awful you got to think he's got the inside track with being between Alfie and Michalek. They obviously want to test Regin with some lesser players to see if he can make those around him better and not drag them down. As well as giving Zibanejad and Da Costa time to show what they can do between the two vets.

Also interested to see where they place Smith, Condra and Greening. Anyone else think they might move Foligno to center and have play between Condra and Greening and move smith to wing instead of making him a 3rd line guy right now? Or is that just counter productive seeing as most have him as the replacement for Kelly going forward?



Why not Greening-Smith- Condra line? I think they may be decent.
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0 #43 Johne 2011-09-15 12:37
Smith should be a 4th line player, I don't like him being on the ice long enough to take more stupid penalties.
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-1 #44 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-09-15 12:40
If Zibby spends a year over in Sweden ..I want Murray to get PHX on the phone KYLE TURRIS !!!
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+1 #45 miguel 2011-09-15 12:54
Quoting andyman998:
Filatov - Spezza - Butler
Michalek - Regin - Alfy
Foligno - Z Smith - Greening
Neil - Konopka - Condra

Winchester

Philips - Lee
Gonchar - Cowen
Karlsson - Kuba

Carkner


Same goes with Kuba...hope he has a bounca back year and raises his value enough that they can get a decent return for him halfway through the year. At that point you can bring up Rundblad.

Rushing these kids to the big show is not the best strategy IMO.

like the comments disagree with Kuba...cut him!
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+1 #46 Round Leaf 2011-09-15 13:11
I think that it would be a crime if Rundblad plays under 50 games with Ottawa this year just because we're optimistic about Kuba having a bounce back year.

I see this as being similar to Kovalev last year: we kept him around, he didn't have the rebound year we hoped for and because of his terrible contract we got very little in return for him. The only difference was that Kovalev wasn't taking ice away from someone who by all accounts is ready to play in the NHL and who's services are essential for the team going forward.

I think that it's madness to expect Kuba to have a bounce back year (even in a contract year) and I pray that we get rid of him at the first opportunity.
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0 #47 miguel 2011-09-15 13:23
Quoting Round Leaf:
I think that it would be a crime if Rundblad plays under 50 games with Ottawa this year just because we're optimistic about Kuba having a bounce back year.

I see this as being similar to Kovalev last year: we kept him around, he didn't have the rebound year we hoped for and because of his terrible contract we got very little in return for him. The only difference was that Kovalev wasn't taking ice away from someone who by all accounts is ready to play in the NHL and who's services are essential for the team going forward.

I think that it's madness to expect Kuba to have a bounce back year (even in a contract year) and I pray that we get rid of him at the first opportunity.

words of wisdom...Kuba is beyond washed up
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0 #48 miguel 2011-09-15 13:31
It drives me mad that we keep hearing that a very bad player keeps playing b/c of their contract. How does 2 wrongs make a right? It is bad enought that we had to pay Kuba almost 4 mil for his embarrasing performances night after night-Kessel literally walking around him, as he turns the wrong way- No I do not blame Kuba, however there is no way that he deserved minutes over Brian Lee. Perhaps if Lee would have been given the minutes he deserved, he may be a better player today. Bottom line we pay $$$ to watch professional hockey, and Kuba can no longer play professionsal hockey. We have many more deserving players who belong there and can benefit from the ice time, Cowen, Rundblad, Gyrba, Wiercoch, Borowiecki. Lets do the right thing, I am not sure I could stomanch Kuba for another year!
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0 #49 Ukcheese 2011-09-15 13:32
Why can I never see comments
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0 #50 Ukcheese 2011-09-15 13:32
Why can I never see comments
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+2 #51 Johne 2011-09-15 13:33
HAHAHAHA

so eklund just wrote up a big long article on the sens decision to keep Redden over Chara and the entire article was based on Murray, not Muckler.

What a retard.
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0 #52 miguel 2011-09-15 14:11
Quoting Johne:
HAHAHAHA

so eklund just wrote up a big long article on the sens decision to keep Redden over Chara and the entire article was based on Murray, not Muckler.

What a retard.

ok I used to think people were unfairly hard on him, but that is not a small error, and he calls himself a hockey writer, guess he is out to prove everyone right
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0 #53 miguel 2011-09-15 14:48
on another note... and speaking of retards
what is wrong with MacLean and Kypreos... does someone want to tell the that Bryden does not own the team anymore!
that our financially we are in great hands, and that Ottawa is one of the best hockey markets in the NHL! They continually go back to the Sens being in financial trouble as a way of attacking Ottawa, and in turn pumping up the financially wealthy Laughs. Hey I have a topic you could talk about, how about the fact that the laffs have not been to the finals since 1967! Or how about you have not made the playoffs since Spezza was a rookie!
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0 #54 baconfat 2011-09-15 15:34
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0 #55 obsensation 2011-09-15 19:06
My guess is Gryba or Wiercioch are also traded as there is too much depth on defense. Gryba, at this point is a better player and may get more prospect value in return. Also Gryba is not a Murray draft pick so there is really no pimping going on. He could make the trade easily and save face. This would likely be better for Eric getting a chance to play in the NHL as I see him not getting a chance for another couple of years or at all in Ottawa.
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0 #56 Hax 2011-09-18 15:52
Quoting obsensation:
My guess is Gryba or Wiercioch are also traded as there is too much depth on defense.



Yeah too much depth really sucks.

You're talking about two Bingo guys who would be great call ups if we need them (though carrying 8 D we likely won't need them often). Plus after this season one or both of those guys might be needed at the NHL level.
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