Now there is no word if this will be in time for next season or not but a high profile technology installation company has leaked this image which appears to show the design for a new scoreboard at SBP.
Kudos to the guys over at SensTown for digging this one up.
Looks good at first glance but unfortunately it does not say anything about when the scoreboard would be put in place. Would be great to have it in time for the NHL All Star Game to be hosted in Ottawa at the end of January 2012.
Final installment in The SensChirp Search coming a little later on today.
- See below for the 5th Finalist in the SensChirp Search. Will post details on how the next round will work at some point tomorrow.
You’ve read about it. You’ve heard about it. You’ve seen it first-hand. Scotiabank Place can sometimes be unbearably quiet. This can be attributed to many things.
Some would tell you that the fans here lack passion. It’s a government town that fills the lower bowl of SBP with corporate stakeholders and public servants. Others will tell you that the franchise is young. Its fan base hasn’t had time to grow. And some will tell you that the Sens are pure garbage and, depending on who you ask, the Leafs/Habs/Bruins are the only teams worth cheering for because they have “history”.
This year, the Ottawa Senators are celebrating their 20th season in the NHL. This means that for the last 20 years, a fan base has been growing in the Nation’s capital. When you really get down to it, that’s not a very long time at all. I am 23 years old. I consider myself a die-hard fan, but for 3 years of my life the Senators did not exist. This means that the only people who can say they have been a Sens fan “their whole life” are a mere 20 years old.
In hockey crazed Canada, people grow up watching hockey. For example a 45 year old fan had 25 years to cheer for another team before the Sens came to town. The majority of people who fill the stands on any given night at a Senators home game are middle aged men and women who have grown up at some point with another team being “their team”. Why do you think you can find Scotibank Place filled with Leafs and Habs fans anytime Toronto or Montreal comes to town?
This is a turning point for the Ottawa Senators. This upcoming season will mark the first year of a true rebuild in Ottawa. We have seen many veterans and core players traded out of town to make way for a new generation of players. These players will grow together and will find themselves as fan favourites similar to Mike Fisher and Chris Kelly. Soon our beloved Captain will retire (Praise Alfie!) and we will have a new leader guiding the way.
This is how you build a fan base.
Kids will grow up knowing nothing but the Ottawa Senators. They will witness players grow and retire in Ottawa Senators jerseys and they will tell their kids about the mythical Daniel Alfredsson and the time he scored the game 5 overtime goal to send us to our first Stanley Cup Finals.
This season presents an opportunity. It is a year to start fresh. To start new traditions. To become fans of new players. And to fall in love with the Senators all over again.
Would it really take that long to install? Could they not do it over the summer?
That's a good question. I guess the installation that has started was the HD wiring. Maybe thats the easy part.
All kidding aside, I highly doubt this won't be up by the ASG. Looks good
Hahah I would hope not. I think those are just internal Bell advertisements, no?
Hmmm, yeah good point, it does look like that from the picture... I'd love if they just got one similar to the Bell Centre in Montreal... Although anything is better than the screens that are there now... LOL
thats my vote! haha
Now that these people are of an age that they can afford tickets, we should see a change in the crowd atmosphere
Good article buds
For me it's a toss up between Day 2 and 5.
As with the crowd, I really enjoyed days 2 and 4 as they were both stats driven and very informative. But even though the writing in this one might not have been as strong I really like how full of hope it was. Hogan said it...definitly a pump up article.
Plus it stuck to the short a sweet of your original length outline.
Win IMO, but lets see how the day shakes down!
Keep on rollin'
I really liked today's article and it really does bring up a lot of interesting points, but it still doesn't take a die hard fan to make some noise and yes it's embarrassing when your own barn gets bought out by Leafs and Habs fans, but I can't fault those fans for wanting to support their team and I can't fault the brass for allowing it to happen, money is money. I do think the author is spot on about this 'die hard' fan base is just becoming of age. I mean there's probably not a whole lot of stories about 'When I was a boy, Alfreddson was my favorite player' being told to their children. I thought it was an excellent read and left some room for my own thoughts to be added to the piece.
Just a quick comment about the writing contest. As someone who participated and didn't get their article selected (totally cool, there were some good reads), I find it especially frustrating that most of your finalists went (well) over the 400 word limit that you implemented in the instructions. Rules are rules, no? I had to edit my article numerous times just to get within the guidelines you listed and the content suffered as a result. Anyway, just thought I'd point that out.
As for Day 5's article, it's very well done. I like it. I'd definitely like to see another article from this person. It definitely makes the top 3, but I still don't know if it beats out Day 2.
For the next round of blogs from the finalists, I would maybe suggest getting them to write a blog about a look ahead to next season which includes educated guesses on how certain players will finish (i.e. Spezza, Alfie, Butler, Filatov, ...), Who will make the all-star team and captain it, where will the Sens finish, which players might get traded, what will be the return... I'm sure with some bold predictions that it would be a great topic that will spark a lot of discussion in the comment section.
Great job on everybody though and thanks for all the interesting contributions!
I would like to see at least 2, 4 and 5 get another shot - if not all five.
Great work keeping us entertained Chirp.
They know a Leaf game would sell out without a single blue jersey in the stands so it's not like they actually want Leaf fans there. They'd much rather have an arena full of their own fans - even if it did mean less actual tickets sold it's still better for the growth of the franchise.
Scoreboard looks awesome!!
understood, but you have crap in Toronto and Montreal where you can't find a ticket without paying out the ass and then a team a few hours away is playing and you and all your buddies can find a set on ebay/craigslist for slightly above ticket price, that's just the way it is and until we have a crazy ass fanbase like that, they'll always take over our barn.
As a mid 40s Sens fan, I grew up teamless with apathy for other NHL teams. Probably like many see the CFL today. I think the building can be quiet because people are actually too busy watching the game to be making pointless noise throughout. I also think the building's design, shape and materials result in sound dampening rather than reflection.
Will make a blogger comment after re-reading 2 & 4.
I really enjoyed today's article. In my opinion, anyone can peice together an article that throws a million statistics at the reader. However, I don't think that those types of articles always provide the best "analysis" of Sens news. I enjoyed today's article the most because it was an interesting, relevant, and analytical read. Most of all, it made me even more amped about the future of the Senators. What more could you ask for?
Day 2, and 5 should move on!
It will be a while though... These games are where I make back most of the money I spent on season tickets... Last year I paid off one of my tickets this way, so I basically got a buy one seat get one free deal...
Montreal fans won't pay that much extra, but Toronto fans will basically pay anything you ask.
I haven't been to a Habs or Leaf game at SBP in a few years, and I won't be going this year. I'd love to be there, but my wallet thanks me everytime!
the other three were great efforts, just not in the same league as 2 & 4.
I would be really interested in reading an article on Alfredsson and his expected production this year citing other players who were in similar situations (both good and bad) in past years on other teams.
I think Alfreddson would be a really "telling" topic for the new contributors because we all love him - and its hard to be objective about our aging star - i think it would generate a lot of discussion and be a challenging piece to write.
PS - Congrats to all the contributors even those who didnt make it to the showcase showdown!
Needs a heck of a lot more hard rock and metal! There are some games I watch at away arenas and I'm so jealous of the tunes selection.
This *is* where all those stinky turd-touching Leafs fans come from though - reselling and local Leafs fans.
Is it considered slightly immoral douche-baggery to sell these tickets to out-of-town Leafs fans? Discuss.
edit: immoral is the wrong way to put it. "Against Sens Nation Code" is better.
I understand the concern. When I got to reading the articles I found that 3/4 were over the limit. Because I only explained the rules clearly on Day 1, I decided it would be better to be flexible with the limit.
Have taken quite a bit of heat over this but I decided this was the best way to do it rather than scrap most of the entries and ignore some quality articles and writers.
Yes, and at first it ripped a bit out of me everytime I'd do it.. But especially Leaf fans, they will go out of their way to make sure they are at those games, it's ridiculous some of the prices i've gotten for those tickets, so it's damn near impossible to keep them out anyhow.. I would never do this in the playoffs, but on a random night in January it's not such a big deal to me...
It will take another 20 years before the die hard Sens fans are able to purchase season tickets, and until then the building will be the way it is...
Did sben just hack your account?
Haha ya think so?
days 2,4, and 5 as finalist for sure
Favs in order would be
4
2
5
Awesome news on the Scoreboard.... about time
I love when Leaf fans are hanging out near the concession stands in a crowd - makes it easier to "accidentally" get mustard on their jerseys.
http://www.anthonyjamespartners.com/news/ottawa-senators-become-first-nhl-team-to-engage-ajp/
The Ottawa Senators have become the first NHL team to engage AJP’s services as they move forward with multiple technology upgrades in ScotiaBank Place for the 2011 season. AJP will be designing LED displays for the arena bowl including a new center hung video display, as well as audio and distributed television systems.
this was posted on Thursday, November 18th, 2010
Have taken quite a bit of heat over this but I decided this was the best way to do it rather than scrap most of the entries and ignore some quality articles and writers.
Yeah, I figured that was the case. I'm kicking myself for not sending in my original article. Stupid, stupid! Oh well, what can you do? No sour grapes over here, just felt compelled to throw in my 2 cents. Good luck with the selection process.
I've always felt the choice and timing of the music selections there to be quite poor as well. When I was a teenager going to games with one of my best friends we used to enjoy thinking up songs we'd use instead to help pump the crowd up. I think sports franchises with young fan bases really need to step up the originality of their game night interactions with fans.
This is an area I would love to see them improve upon
Sorry Bobby Lalonde but you have worn out your welcome.... please take the kids bands with you.
Not trying to be mean here but they definitely need to spice things up
but 4 and 5, with 2 close behind Comment on today:
I grew up a habs fan, but even as a child, when it was rumoured that the Colorado Rockies, may be coming to Ottawa, I would dream of playing for the home town, and being a star for Ottawa. I always felt that loyalty, just like I could not cheer for any other team other than Canada in Intenational competition.
To each their own, but I have seen more migration from Habs fans to the Sens, vs Leaf fans to the Sens, and my theory on this is, I was lucky enough to see the Habs win it all 6 times in my earlier days, and even after they won it, it was bittersweet that the real parade and excitement was in Montreal, and they really could care less about the rest of the country.
Now I have the option of cheering my own hometown, and just the excitement of the finals, had this city in a buzz I have never seen before... cant imagine what a Cup win would do to our lovely city.
GoSens
One other point you left out young pup is that there is a good portion of fans who are new to the country, and ottawa, that never followed hockey that have started to, so no need to put all those over 20 as had to cheer for another team. Broaden your view a wee bit.
JABSmilez - music does suck but at least you can scream motherf*cker when they play the outhere bros song
Maybe after a couple of rebuilding years when the games are bigger draws they can modernize the music etc since they won't care as much if some old blue-hair complains it's too noisy for her to concentrate on her knitting.
At least most of the servers in the 100 level are cute!
someone from Sens must have complained
You can tell a lot of heart went into writing this. To me that makes for a great article. I vote for day 2 and 5!
Not sure I understand. I think that most readers are able to understand that obviously not EVERY person over 20 followed another team at another time. Clearly there are different situations. I think it is safe to say that A LOT of people over twenty did follow another team at some point. Don't you think your taking the article too literally? Just a thought. :)
Definitely the best one yet!!
Thomas
Vokoun
Miller
Luongo
Hiller
Nice one, like the Hiller selection as it's different but still valid. He's a really good goalie.
Personally right now my top 4 are
Lundqvist
Miller
Thomas
Luongo
and I'm between Vokoun and Rinne for 5th.
Appreciate that. Tried to pick articles that were different and brought something unique. Now the tricky part. What to do with the Final 5...
An update on some of the jersey numbers the #Sens will wear for 2011-12: Alex Auld (35), Erik Condra (22) and Colin Greening (14).
I guess Condra is the next Chris Kelly after all.
Where is Leclaire? That guy doesn't miss any games!
In all seriousness, your list is very good JABS. I would take Rinne over Vokoun for skill. Stats wise, Vokoun will prob be better this year. Lots of people overlook how awesome Lundqvist actually is in net.
Good points on Vokoun and Rinne. I'm still amazed how many people overlook Lundqvist, there's really only 1-2 other goalies in the league right now I'd build a team around ahead of him.
Lundqvist is def an elite goalie.
I think it's great for the Russian players to be able to finish their careers off back home. Hopefully the coach let's him shoot the puck to score the goals.
My top 5 goalies:
Thomas
Vokoun
Rinne
Lundqvist
Miller
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=372739
I think this is the exact reason Vokoun is so amazing. He had NO ONE playing in front of him last year in Florida and put up amazing numbers. The guys is going to be deadly for the Caps this year. I also left Luongo off my list. Put him on a weaker team and I think you'll see his numbers average out really fast.
they are something to read but was more interested to hear about the scorboard and Kovalev to the KHL, jersey numbers, I come here to see whats new for the most part.
I know its a long summer.
Luongo did the same thing in Florida, but yes the team in front really does make a difference. I still think Luongo is an elite goalie in spite of his playoff shortcomings.
And for the scoreboard, jeezus why is everyone making such a big deal out of it? Big deal if the current scoreboard looked like it was made from Fred Flinstone, it was still serviceable and more than good enough. I lots of us are becoming spoiled.
You make a really good point. It will interesting to see Vokoun finally play for an elite team and not Nashville or Florida.
Johne, JABS, who in your opinion are the worst 5 starters in the league?
How can Bryzgalov make 8 Mil
Luongo approx 8 Mil.
Andersono 3.5 Mil.
and Vokoun with I believe the best save percentage since the lockout sign at 1.5 ?
Was his agent secretly working for Washington?
Even if he wanted to go for a winner, he could easily have signed the one year at close to 6-7 mil, as a team would love to have him and not hurt thier future cap space.
And what happens if he get hurt or has a bad year?
Apparently Vokoun woke up too late and has now fired him.
I could have gotten him a bette contract than that,
Still it sounds awfully strange,
If the agent was working for Washington, it resulted in him getting fired haha. Vokoun took his talents to the Octagon agency.
Vokoun wanted to play on (what he feels is) a cup contender. If he had wanted a payday he's be with the another crappy team.
Mike Smith
Jose Theodore
Nikolai Khabibulin
Rick Dipietro
and I guess Steve Mason, but I'm not sure it's fair given his age and lack of team support up until now
Vokoun actually misjudged the market. He thought he would get a good payday on a good team as well, but it became 1 or the other and it sounds like none of the long term deals were even close to what he had expected.
1) Terrible GAA playing on a good team
2) Biggest pads in the league, old
3) DUI, OLD
4) Broken crotch
1.Lunqvist
2.Rinne
3.Thomas
4.Luongo
5.Price
easy to explain, most people have better video in their home than that scoreboard!
Ultimately, I kind of share FloridaSensFan' s recent sentiment. Chirp, one stat that you may wish to consider: number of posted comments that don't relate to the "guest" as a ratio of the total number of posts each day. #5 takes a hit because other news emerged but otherwise it could be an interesting measure of the writer's ability to hook the audience...
Tarantino says that a great movie willl make you want to stop for pie to discuss it with your friends. Similarly, an engaging blogger will generate lots of dialogue.
I don't want an off the wall blogger that I criticize every paragraph with a comment.
Nice to see Price make an appearance. I was considering him as well, but sometimes wonder if part of it is a result of the Jacques Martin system. He's still a really good goalie though, and easily makes my top 8.
Wow, very solid article today, an excellent read, and as a 24 year old completely agree!
Lunqvist is going to be backing up Lehner for team Sweden, that's for sure!
Fleury, Ward and Price.
Ward's another guy that doesn't get enough recognition, but the Canes would be one of the worst teams without him.
That's one hell of a bold statement. Let's hope you're right.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Looking-ahead-to-2011-12-Ranking-the-NHL-s-top-?urn=nhl-wp9870
I think you're right. Luongo will be 35 yrs old by the time Sochi comes around. Ward would be a better choice. Watch for Corey Crawford and Jonathan Bernier as dark horse candidates.
As for fans growing up with the team... I was a Jets fan until they left, then a Sens fan since then. Now that the Jets are back, I will most definitely cheer for both teams.
There's a difference between Sens fans and hockey fans.
I think SBP suffers from a lot of hockey fans who just want to see hockey no matter who it is. They're not loud or emotionally attached like you wonderful Sens fans are.
Hopefully more true Sens fans will emerge soon and you guys can blow the lid off SBP. We'll be doing the same here in Winnipeg.
My top 5 goalie list would look more like this:
Rinne
Thomas
Lundqvist
Miller
Price/Hiller/Ward/Vokoun/Bryzgalov
Luongo is very overrated imo
Would still like to see writers from days 2 and 4 (and possibly also today) get to write again in a second round. Perhaps on the topic of their favourite Sens memory so we can see where they're coming from in their opinions.
Wow Vokoun and Hiller are way too low on that list. The hockey writing at yahoo has really taken a dive the last few years. As much as I don't want to admit it, Reimer should make the top 25 over Khabibulin and Kiprusoff shouldn't even be in the top 15 anymore imo.
Now I must be real dumb today or something (don't agree please).
When I click on the link in the article for the scoreboard all I see is a black backgroud with Sens logo -- saying coming soon. Am I missing something?
By the way, this article was okay... but I still think #2 for me...
I check out PD for entertainment value only. The rankings and ratings and any kind of opinion piece is too out in left field for me.
Agreed, at least they have subjects that make you think about how you would rank them instead. Enjoy the topic, don't take the rankings to heart, right :)
One thing they should do is don't have them on the weekends... keep those Leaf fans in TO where they belong as well as the Hab fans in Mtl.
It's time to 'take back the bank'. Keep them OUT.
Unfortunately with the cities of Toronto and Montreal being so close, that would only minimize the impact.
As the article says, over time the young will grow loving the Sens and the old will part ways with their teams when they see Ottawa bringing the cup home.
Best thing to do the Leafs/Habs fans... shut them up by beating them in our rink... and unleashing Carkner on them
I've been in Tampa & Florida... they play quite a bit of old rock & roll. It's fun... but being from that era.. I'm partial to that music.
I can't see them paying heavy metal music... hard rock.. maybe.
Agreed. A bunch of drunken buffoons (sp?) that keep getting in your face. It's not an enjoyable experience to go to those Leaf games at all. I more or less tolerate them. The only way to shut them up is to beat the asses off the Leafs on the ice.... and that has not happened the last several years.
What's a "Leafs fan"? Haha.
Now that's what I saw. I thought I was really missing something. Someone was onto to you Chirp...LOL
Reimer is a good young goaltender.. BUT he's only played about 35 NHL games. Are they annointing him #1 too early. Can he take the pressure of being the go-to guy in Toronto? They have upgraded their D.. but they are far from the best in the league...
Second, the fanbase represents the team that represents the fanbase. Basically, the team isn't one that hits hard or drops the gloves. They play standard hockey and that isn't very exciting. As much as I love ALfie, a guy like Iginla that drops the gloves is awesome and gets you out of your seat. Two-way play doesn't necessarily get you up and going. That said, a fast, winning team will get the fans pumped. Pizza Line? Fans were going nuts. Downslide Sens? Lots of quiet fans. Leafs in town? Lots of active fans. Nashville? Not so much.
This is a chance for the Sens to re-mould themselves. If they took a more physical, dynamic approach the fans would buy in. Sure, we're a government town and quiet and that but...
As well as Konopka and Neil.... 3 prong attack...
You can't.
A friend's dad owns one of the Farm Boy franchises in town and he's a die-hard Leafs fans with season tickets. He gives the non-Leafs games away to employees and lets his son go to the Leafs games.
He's not alone as there are a LOT of people in this town that buy seasons just to go see the Habs and Leafs. On top of that, you have Sens fans that give their tickets to Leafs fans because they don't enjoy the atmosphere. Yes, this is true. My best friend's sister and her husband have seasons and they gave away tickets in the 200s to a Leafs fan friend...
The ONLY way for Habs and Leafs fans to stop is to either win a Cup or beat them every time we play them,!
I was an avid Habs fan for over 20 yrs... but switched to the Sens.
They play in our community. Spend a lot of time and donate money to our local charities.
You would think more would switch to their local team -- but I guess some just can't be swayed.
Especially when the Sens had that great 10 yr run... you would think more would have converted....
It's the Sens misfortune to be in a division with 3 original six teams.... that's hard to compete with.
I know it would be copying, but I'd just do it anyways, song is bad ass.
The government isn't allowed to buy tickets for it's employees so no public servants do not fill the lower bowl. Those are just the wealthier fans who live in Ottawa. It's sometimes quiet in the arena because when you see 41+ games a year and your a season ticket holder you become keenly aware of when you're watching a good hockey game and when you're watching the team take a collective shit all over the ice.
Fans come to games to be entertained and if the game isn't entertaining you won't hear anything from them. There may be casual fans out there who never go to arenas who think it's disgraceful not to yell because it's a once in a lifetime experience for them to go to a game. The experience is much different for regulars.
We got quite a few convert fans when we went to the cup final but a quick drop off made some of them go back to their old ways and cheering for their old teams.
A perfect example of this is my dad... a die hard leafs fan for years and I can hardly have a conversation with him for a long time as he would juts go off about how much he hates the Sens but when they went on their cup run... his exact words were "go ahead and get me a jersey, I will jump on the bandwagon, they are playing some great hockey"
Everyone wants their team to win and if they are living in a city that puts a great product on the ice, they will come around
Yeah he's a 3rd liner...
We will have a team to get loud about this year.
I was at a lot of the games when we played the ducks in the playoffs, the crowd was wild an deafening, I also taped the games and it was the same on TV, we drowned out the anouncers to where they had to pick up their voice to be heard.
Also the Arena was all red, felt sorry for those 4 or 5 wearing black.
Rowdy breeds Rowdy, everyone went home with a horse voice, season ticket holders and everyone else.
It was over the top.
When the sens play like they did when heatley came to town its hard to cheer.
The player give us something to cheer about the roof will be raised, you entertain the fans they will be out of their seats and couches, the arena will be all red the leaf fans will not be able to get tickets then, at least not cheap.
I agree with this idea... I think giving a broad(ish) topic like Alfredsson for the next round is good, but letting the writers go where they want with it. At the very least, we should eliminate any writer who misspells his name
The leafs suck and have forever so they have something to prove, we don't as we have iced a good team in the past and will again.
Also why suround yourself with stupid people (leaf fans)
I would rather beat them in the standings than on the ice, they are not worthy of much attention, I would not even play our top players against them, give them the night off to rest for more important games.
F--- the leafs.
Playing the leafs is like stepping in dogshit, kind of have to step in it due to the schedual
I was an avid Habs fan for over 20 yrs... but switched to the Sens.
It's interesting that you were a former Habs fan. I've also admitted to growing up a Hab supporter as has Robert Cyr, Miguel and Dork among others. I don't remember ever seeing a poster on this site admit to being a former Toronto fan. I think that's because once you've been a member of Leaf Nation your brain becomes so irreparably damaged that it becomes impossible to ever support an organization that might actually win a Stanley Cup.
Let them go wild with whatever topic they choose to do.
Doesn't have to be Sens related, but stay within the realm of hockey. Readers from outside of Ottawa probably won't really have an opinion of the city or be up to date with current local events.
I also think giving them a surprise article to write in just a few minutes with a given topic would give you a real idea of their writing abilities. Things can change pretty quickly in the NHL world, being able to put together a readable article in just a few minutes is important.
You say that like it's a horrible thing for him to be a third liner Tookie, what does every players needs to be top six potential or they suck in your eyes?
Will take about about a week or so to install I work there
Getting the new scoreboard was NHL demand for all star game
Also there will be major changes to the overall feel in the building
You will be aloud to make noise and not have the grey hair red coats coming to tell u to be quite
Also new music is on it's way was told it's more of a mainstream style music
Instead if the lame stadium soundtracks from 1997
Thanks for the update... good to hear and will be good to see. One thing that upset my friend and I late last season... was the out of town scoreboard was not working... may not mean a lot to some people... but it did to us..
Last season they used Motley Crue's "Kickstart My Heart" to bring the team out.
That's cool!
Next thing you know during a break in the action they played Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly". I mean, I'm a HUGE Steely Dan fan but really?
Of course Knights games "Cotton Eye Joe" is a staple and so is Darude's "Sandstorm" (it's 1999 still I swear). The real kicker is "YMCA".
Speaking of #5. I wish that the newer Sens fans were able to experience what it was like when Steve Duschene scored that only goal against Buffalo to get the Sens into the playoffs for the first time in modern franchise history. I vividly remember that game like it was yesterday.
What an amazing thrill that was. That series vs Buffalo though ... what a heartbreaker (I still feel for Tugnutt)
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