Monday, 25 July 2011 08:49

The SensChirp Search- Day 1

Each day this week, I will featuring one of the five finalists in the search for the new SensChirp contributor.

I have narrowed the search to five contributions and will be posting the entry from each of the final five over the course of this week.  The readers will have a chance to give their feedback at the bottom of the article.

Your votes and feedback will be taken into consideration when I ultimately choose a winner this weekend.  Names have been left off the post.  With all that said, here is today's finalist...

EXPECTATIONS

Disaster. If we had to choose one word to describe the 2010-2011 NHL season for the Ottawa Senators, that might be the best choice out there. I’m not here to flog last season to death... quite frankly that’s been done a thousand times over, but instead I’m here to talk about the good that can come from something as brutal as last season was.

The 2010-2011 NHL Trade Deadline came and went, and with it brought a renewed sense of optimism that fell over the city like a warm blanket. Was it the fact that we shipped out half the team, giving us a fresh new look? Was it the fact that some players like Alex Kovalev we’re shipped out for a 7th round pick (perhaps finally putting him in his place)? Could it have been the youthful enthusiasm that replaced the veteran complacency? Probably all of the above, but the one thing that sticks out in my mind was the change in expectations.

Something that has bothered me for YEARS has been the expectations around the Ottawa Senators. Every free agent signing, or new draft pick we put into our lineup, and the parade planning is on. Maybe for me it’s a bit of an inferiority complex, or maybe even some sort of post traumatic stress disorder, but ever since the years we would continually lose in the playoffs to the Leafs, or be called out as playoff chokers, this team has ALWAYS had a hard time living up to the expectations that are place on them. Now don’t get me wrong, I know that’s not the whole story here but it does illustrate what happens to a team that’s called the favourite and fails to achieve the expected results year after year after year.

Fast forward to today, there are only 4 players that remain from the team that made it to the Stanley Cup Finals, Jason Spezza, Daniel Alfredsson, Chris Neil, and Chris Phillips and after a decade of Stanley Cup expectations, the reset button has finally been hit. The city took a collective sigh of relief and a deep breath. No longer do we all feel like we’re being disappointed by our team. The new set of expectations is that we are not a playoff team. The consensus seems to be that we will finish anywhere in the bottom 10-15 this year, and we can all start to appreciate them for what they are, and stop holding them up to expectations that are beyond them.

The Ottawa Senators are now a rebuilding team, full of potential, but also full of volatility. We have a plethora of young talent and several question marks, that if they pan out, we could have a much better team than we expect. We also have a legitimate goaltender for the first time in the franchise’s history (some would say 2 legitimate # 1’s). We must remember to base our expectations in reality and that not all of the prospects will pan out, and not all of the question marks will be answered positively. We must remember to enjoy the hard working, young, and improving team that we have. We also have one thing that we haven’t had in a LONG time... a fan base full of optimism.

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0 #1 Mastersens 2011-07-25 08:04
They should take comrie back!!
He's free agent
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+1 #2 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 08:07
Good article!

Comrie is too busy inheriting The Brick corporation to play hockey...
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0 #3 Blake Ryan 2011-07-25 08:14
where is the rating section? I wasn't crazy about this one, although i agree with the fact that expectations have been rest. The writing wasn't very compelling and lacked any actual insight - it was more opinion then fact - and if i want straight up opinion i can always read the comment section.
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+2 #4 SensChirp 2011-07-25 08:18
Quoting Blake Ryan:
where is the rating section? I wasn't crazy about this one, although i agree with the fact that expectations have been rest. The writing wasn't very compelling and lacked any actual insight - it was more opinion then fact - and if i want straight up opinion i can always read the comment section.

Ah yes, I see the rating feature isn't there. Guess we'll just have to go by the comments.
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+3 #5 Mastersens 2011-07-25 08:22
Quoting :
They should take comrie back!!
He's free agent

Quoting ImNotJoJo:
Good article!

Comrie is too busy inheriting The Brick corporation to play hockey...

yeah.. LOL
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0 #6 Digital Sens Fan 2011-07-25 08:29
Good article. But if you take any of the trouble makers chirp, you may as well start a new blog site!!! And that would just suck!

No to Comrie. Kinda sad that he was let go but he worked with Fisher. Fisher`s gone, so we don`t need Comrie.
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0 #7 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-07-25 08:29
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Blake Ryan:
where is the rating section? I wasn't crazy about this one, although i agree with the fact that expectations have been rest. The writing wasn't very compelling and lacked any actual insight - it was more opinion then fact - and if i want straight up opinion i can always read the comment section.

Ah yes, I see the rating feature isn't there. Guess we'll just have to go by the comments.

Or a poll. :-)
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+2 #8 SensChirp 2011-07-25 08:33
What do you mean take any of the trouble makers?
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+4 #9 The Apostle 2011-07-25 08:33
Insight and insider knowledge is what Chirp is for. All the guest contributor should be doing (IMO) is sparking conversation and debate in the comments section.

If any of us who comment on the site have any real insight or insider information they can go and set up their own webpage.
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+5 #10 Diton B 2011-07-25 08:34
You should create a poll after all of the contributors have posted.
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+4 #11 Stan.Neckar 2011-07-25 08:34
In all honesty, this was an incredibly lame article. The clunky writing style combined with the hive mind's opinion results in a safe, yet boring read. I didn't gain any new information or read anything controversial. I understand that it might be fun to add another contributor to the site, but I hope that a new writer isn't added for the sake of adding a new writer. I look forward to reading the other 4 finalists.
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+1 #12 my2sens 2011-07-25 08:34
Hard to make any judgement without seeing the other 4. However, that being said, well written, great opinions and I would think given 'one' topic to talk about can bring something to the site.

Good job to whomever wrote it!

Almost done July :-)
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0 #13 my2sens 2011-07-25 08:36
PS - Off topic, but what are people's thoughts on the new Jets logos?
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0 #14 Hogan 2011-07-25 08:41
But the expectations we placed on them were well warranted, not one of us could have predicted the epic failure of: Hasek,Gerber,He atley,Emery,Lec laire,Kovalev,Y ashin,Gonchar etc!

Look at those names! All,for the most part,ended in ridiculous drama. It wasn't our expectaions plaguing the team.

One love
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+6 #15 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 08:41
Quoting my2sens:
PS - Off topic, but what are people's thoughts on the new Jets logos?

Looks like they were designed by Stephen Harper. Conservative colours, promoting the new fighter jets he wants!
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+3 #16 Hogan 2011-07-25 08:46
Quoting Stan.Neckar:
In all honesty, this was an incredibly lame article. The clunky writing style combined with the hive mind's opinion results in a safe, yet boring read. I didn't gain any new information or read anything controversial. I understand that it might be fun to add another contributor to the site, but I hope that a new writer isn't added for the sake of adding a new writer. I look forward to reading the other 4 finalists.


Gonged by Stan Neckar buds
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-17 #17 Mastersens 2011-07-25 08:51
there's a rumor that ottawa have an interest in Alexei Yashin. Is that real Chirp?
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+17 #18 SensChirp 2011-07-25 08:52
Quoting :
there's a rumor that ottawa have an interest in Alexei Yashin. Is that real Chirp?

No
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+1 #19 MF57 2011-07-25 08:55
Meh. This one sounds like it was written by a Leaf fan in disguise.
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0 #20 my2sens 2011-07-25 08:55
Quoting :
there's a rumor that ottawa have an interest in Alexei Yashin. Is that real Chirp?



Ottawa is rebuilding to be better, not worse. Plus the NAC would come after him if he came back... he can keep his turtlenecks and stay in Russia building igloos.
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+2 #21 comic_dude 2011-07-25 08:59
Quoting my2sens:
PS - Off topic, but what are people's thoughts on the new Jets logos?

its alright i like the old one better. i dont like the military theme
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+3 #22 my2sens 2011-07-25 09:00
Quoting comic_dude:
Quoting my2sens:
PS - Off topic, but what are people's thoughts on the new Jets logos?

its alright i like the old one better. i dont like the military theme



My thoughts exact.
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+1 #23 Tookie 2011-07-25 09:11
Quoting The Apostle:
Insight and insider knowledge is what Chirp is for. All the guest contributor should be doing (IMO) is sparking conversation and debate in the comments section.

If any of us who comment on the site have any real insight or insider information they can go and set up their own webpage.


Exactly! Couldnt have said it any better!
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0 #24 EH_Matt 2011-07-25 09:11
Quoting comic_dude:
Quoting my2sens:
PS - Off topic, but what are people's thoughts on the new Jets logos?

its alright i like the old one better. i dont like the military theme

I'm on the fence. Not quite sure how I like it. I know when I googled "new Jets logo" before it was released, there were some nice ones. I think I'll have to wait and see what the jersey looks like before I can really decide if I'll like it or not.
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+2 #25 EH_Matt 2011-07-25 09:14
I'm not sure how I feel about this article. It was okay I guess. Would it keep me coming back to this site to read more, probably not. I'm anxious to see what the other entries are like.
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+2 #26 my2sens 2011-07-25 09:19
The thing with these articles that I think people should keep in mind though... it's like a comedian trying to win a talent show in 60 secs... they have to throw all material out in one shot. Same here... the articles aren't going to focus on one topic, rather attempt to showcase their talents and love for the Sens and the game.

Once SC chooses an individual, the topics will be more focused, better reading etc.

Stay patient everyone... and keep an open mind.
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0 #27 Floridasensfan 2011-07-25 09:31
seemed like a long blog post from the comment section.

E for effort.

I was going to say who cares about the jets jersey but I decided against it. :)
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+3 #28 FBP 2011-07-25 09:36
This article didn't do anything for me. If I didn't feel obliged to judge it and post my opinion, for the good of SensChirp, I wouldn't have finished it.

There is no sell, no zing. Plus I don't really like being told how I feel: "No longer do we all feel like we’re being disappointed by our team."
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+3 #29 Digital Sens Fan 2011-07-25 09:40
The people who start arguments and putting individual people down. Readers and Commenters know who they are!!
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+3 #30 SlickRick 2011-07-25 09:44
Quoting MF57:
Meh. This one sounds like it was written by a Leaf fan in disguise.


His name is Tookie, and I thought he did an alright job. I'm sure he had to go back and edit all the insults to disguise himself but not bad.
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+2 #31 Johne 2011-07-25 09:49
Well written, but pretty much regurgitated information that is common knowledge and overall was 'I'm glad we were a failure last season.' I can't condone that type of thinking. While yes, expectations are always high in Ottawa, they should be. Any good hockey market will have high expectations of their team. While the leafs, year after year seem to be repeating history, the buzz/fan base always have high expectations for at least the 1st week or two.

While the expectations certainly are lower now with the fire sale and while I do think that this years draft class will certainly contribute to building a contender, I would never have wished for last season, ever.

@FBP

I think that is what makes Chirp one of the best bloggers out there, he rarely, if ever, shares much of his opinion outside of a prediction or two. And I felt that this post was far too opinionated for my likings. Make the comments be the opinions.
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+3 #32 Captain Alfie 2011-07-25 09:53
I feel we need a fresh Sens topic to judge a new contributor not an essay summary of last season, maybe a BSensChirp.. something to focus on the positive season our prospects had. It would be great to have a Bingo fan contribute and keep us updated on the farm.

As for Comrie I would take him on for a year to compete for that 2C spot. He is more of a 2C-b or 3C-a but would do for a year if our prospects and Foligno/Regin are not ready for it.
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+7 #33 Sensnation 2011-07-25 10:05
Congratulations to the writer of that article, I like to see all the effort that people have put into this. Making it to the final 5 is definitely a good feat in it's own!

Unfortunately there was not enough substance or thought provoking ideas in this one. I feel the complacency with failure was a bit too much. It's hard to make an opinion piece that really doesn't hit the passion button, but his opinion is definitely very clear and well stated.
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0 #34 The Apostle 2011-07-25 10:14
What do you actually expect any new contributor to do though? If you think he's going to come in and announce a trade that chirp doesn't have information on or suddenly provide an insight into what Chris Neil is like when he goes to church you are looking in the wrong place.

I don't want this site turning into some closeted, smaller version of HB. I don't want any new contributor's articles to be I heard that we are going to sign Stamkos and Doughty for 5 million a year each.

I think this article is the right sort of thing a new contributor should be doing. I didn't particular like this one even though I generally agreed with the sentiment behind it, but I would much rather have this than somebody trying to be a new chirp. If you want facts, do your own research or buy a newspaper (not The Sun though, obviously they have no facts there). A blog should be based on opinion and generate conversation amongst those who read it.
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+5 #35 THEBLACKTERROR 2011-07-25 10:20
Sorry, but this article simply highlights many of the reasons why this forum can be such a mess.

Statement in article: We have a legitimate #1 goaltender for the first time in franchise history.

Fact: Ray Emery took the Ottawa Senators to the Stanley Cup Finals. He then lost his starting job because he got injured. This is not how you treat a legitimate starting goaltender, which is what he was at the time.

Fact: Dominik Hasek was 28-10-4 with a .925s% before he got hurt. Those are Vezina stats.

Revisionist history states that Ottawa never had a starter, yet both of these guys accomplished more as Senators than Craig Anderson has to this point, so indirectly castigating them to spin optimism about what is here going forward is disingenuous.

There's little value in speculating on this year, so in my mind this article lacks merit.
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+3 #36 MethotToMyMadness 2011-07-25 10:20
I personally cannot rate 1 article out of 5, without reading the other 4, but I do think the writer expressed his/her views well. Remember, everyone is going to have a different reaction to what is said, even if it's the same thing we all know already. Just read the article, enjoy it for what it is and wait to make a decision. If you're upset about what is written, then you should have wrote something and submitted it. Let's keep this community on the positive side.
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+3 #37 SensChirp 2011-07-25 10:22
What I want from the new contributor is someone who can add something different every once in awhile. A compliment, not a replacement.

I chose this as one of the finalists because I don't entirely agree with it but thought it was well written and something a little different than I usually write.
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-2 #38 Tookie 2011-07-25 10:37
Quoting SlickRick:
Quoting MF57:
Meh. This one sounds like it was written by a Leaf fan in disguise.


His name is Tookie, and I thought he did an alright job. I'm sure he had to go back and edit all the insults to disguise himself but not bad.


Leave it up to SlickRick to make a complete ass of himself, its what he does best, its obvious, this article isnt me, I didnt even submit an "article" to SC.
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+1 #39 Captain Alfie 2011-07-25 10:38
I agree with TBT we have had legit number one goalies but shit always happens.
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-3 #40 Tookie 2011-07-25 11:22
Quoting Captain Alfie:
I agree with TBT we have had legit number one goalies but shit always happens.



I agree to a certain degree, Hasek was a bonafide starter, Emery wasnt, he was a troubled prospect with great talents, I do agree the Sens mishandled the situation with Emery.
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+1 #41 Captain Alfie 2011-07-25 11:42
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
I agree with TBT we have had legit number one goalies but shit always happens.



I agree to a certain degree, Hasek was a bonafide starter, Emery wasnt, he was a troubled prospect with great talents, I do agree the Sens mishandled the situation with Emery.


Although Emery was not a bonafide starter he did accomplish a feat most starting goaltenders do not by making it to the finals. Leclaire arguably was a bonafide number 1 but he was a mirage made of glass.
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+3 #42 my2sens 2011-07-25 11:46
Regarding goaltending, I hope that Anderson can continue where he left off, then Ottawa can at least lay the goaltending debate to rest and concentrate on other areas of the team.

Should be interesting to see what the media picks on this season without goaltending as an issue...
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+4 #43 Floridasensfan 2011-07-25 11:47
Chirp your comments you make even if opinionated (not saying they are) seem to be made with a bit of in the loop knowledge, which gives value and also promotes discussion.

If you are looking for contributions what about having readers do research on prospects or players and present the story and we could talk about each player.

Bring some knowledge to the site that some might not know or have not taken the time to find out.

It would help the summer go by and we might learn something we did not know.
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0 #44 TrueSensFan 2011-07-25 12:16
I will say the article is very well written.

After that, I did not get much entertainment value out of it. I found it a little dry and to quote JABSmilez "I feel the complacency with failure was a bit too much" hits the nail on the head.

Looking forward to the next one
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+3 #45 SlickRick 2011-07-25 12:40
@Tookie
YEAH BUDDY!
Everytime you comment you get 10 thumbs down. Who makes an ass out of themselves? You are a Leafs troll and I've (and many others) called you on it many times but can't recall you ever denying it...weird.
Hey, If I worked at the ACC I'd be pretty knowledgable about the Leafs team/players... .doesn't mean I'm a fan (get it? You serve drinks at Scotiabank place, know the team well, but hate everything about the Sens). Most of us just ignore you, but I get a kick out making fun you from time to time.
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+4 #46 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 12:47
Erik Karlsson is now on twitter: @ErikKarlsson65
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-4 #47 One Long Pan 2011-07-25 12:47
Quoting SensChirp:
What I want from the new contributor is someone who can add something different every once in awhile. A compliment, not a replacement.

I chose this as one of the finalists because I don't entirely agree with it but thought it was well written and something a little different than I usually write.



Geez Louise - just hire Julie Robenhymer !
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-2 #48 Sandy 2011-07-25 13:15
I guess I'm in the minority. I liked the article. It was one person's opinion of last season and what he (she) hoped for next season. I thought well written.

I won't "place" it until I read the other 4.
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-1 #49 jakester 2011-07-25 13:25
Well 1 down - four to go. I didn't really like this article. Just regurgitated stuff we hear all the time on this site. I agree tanking talk is annoying - we had our bad year - we've restocked - basically 5 first rounders(if you count Filatov and Prince-who was slotted to go much higher). We have a goalie and a goalie of the future. A future sniper, we hope, in BUTLER who can thrive off of Spezza. You know what we'll do much better this year than most people think. Last year we did much worse than most people thought. Things have a way of balancing themselves out. GO SENS GO!
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0 #50 Douche 2011-07-25 13:30
I agree with most of the comments already stated... not entirely entertaining, but well written.
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0 #51 Tookie 2011-07-25 13:40
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
I agree with TBT we have had legit number one goalies but shit always happens.



I agree to a certain degree, Hasek was a bonafide starter, Emery wasnt, he was a troubled prospect with great talents, I do agree the Sens mishandled the situation with Emery.


Although Emery was not a bonafide starter he did accomplish a feat most starting goaltenders do not by making it to the finals. Leclaire arguably was a bonafide number 1 but he was a mirage made of glass.


1 good season doesnt make you a legit starter, you have to put a couple of season of consistent goaltending before you can be called a legit #1.
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+1 #52 Tookie 2011-07-25 13:50
Quoting SlickRick:
@Tookie
YEAH BUDDY!
Everytime you comment you get 10 thumbs down. Who makes an ass out of themselves? You are a Leafs troll and I've (and many others) called you on it many times but can't recall you ever denying it...weird.
Hey, If I worked at the ACC I'd be pretty knowledgable about the Leafs team/players....doesn't mean I'm a fan (get it? You serve drinks at Scotiabank place, know the team well, but hate everything about the Sens). Most of us just ignore you, but I get a kick out making fun you from time to time.


OH NO not a thumbs down, oh shit, what am I goona do? shit shit shit....haha what a douche!

Keep smokin that joint bro, your way up in the clouds, your opinion on me is in the minority, "most of us", lol, your Barbie dolls dont count bud!
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+2 #53 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 13:52
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
I agree with TBT we have had legit number one goalies but shit always happens.



I agree to a certain degree, Hasek was a bonafide starter, Emery wasnt, he was a troubled prospect with great talents, I do agree the Sens mishandled the situation with Emery.


Although Emery was not a bonafide starter he did accomplish a feat most starting goaltenders do not by making it to the finals. Leclaire arguably was a bonafide number 1 but he was a mirage made of glass.


1 good season doesnt make you a legit starter, you have to put a couple of season of consistent goaltending before you can be called a legit #1.

Emery has had more than one good season....
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+3 #54 Hax 2011-07-25 14:00
Meh. Not bad but not great. As long as this new contributor doesn't cut into actual Chirp posts/comments I don't mind. But hopefully we can find someone a bit better than applicant #1.

I didn't submit anything and wouldn't expect to be selected if I did so I can't really throw stones - but FWIW I didn't really get much out of this entry.
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+2 #55 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-25 14:10
Quoting One Long Pan:
Quoting SensChirp:
What I want from the new contributor is someone who can add something different every once in awhile. A compliment, not a replacement.

I chose this as one of the finalists because I don't entirely agree with it but thought it was well written and something a little different than I usually write.



Geez Louise - just hire Julie Robenhymer !


Julie is hot.
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+2 #56 meadowdog 2011-07-25 14:11
I'd disqualify this applicant strictly on the basis of his claim that Anderson is our only legitimate number one goalie in team history. A little historical perspective please. Others have already referenced Hasek and Emery but Tugnutt and Lalime also accomplished more in their time with the Sens than Anderson has in his entire career. Did this guy just start watching hockey last year?
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+1 #57 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 14:20
Chrip, you should do something about swearing, name calling, etc. on your comment section. I know it'd probably be a burden on you, but I assume reading some of these comments is as well. I also remember this being suggested many times before - it sucks all the fun out of the section when people are constantly bickering and swearing at each other. Possibly the reason you had so many 'lurkers' in the first place. People don't want to sign up because others make the comment section toxic. Just my two cents.
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+2 #58 Johne 2011-07-25 14:22
I'd rather see a poster try to do something like Chirp's top 5 games to watch next season. Original content always wins and doesn't take insider information to write it. I always remember that time that Chirp lost it and wrote a crazy opinionated article about a loss last season, he deleted that article and wrote another one that was less opinionated and more factual. And yes there are no games to recap right now, but coming up with original and mostly unbiased content is mostly what drives me to this site and the comment discussion is always entertaining. I see no point in having someone's rant in the comments promoted to the first page. I sure wish one of our Bingo user's would step up and write about the bsens.
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+3 #59 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-25 14:23
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
Chrip, you should do something about swearing, name calling, etc. on your comment section. I know it'd probably be a burden on you, but I assume reading some of these comments is as well. I also remember this being suggested many times before - it sucks all the fun out of the section when people are constantly bickering and swearing at each other. Possibly the reason you had so many 'lurkers' in the first place. People don't want to sign up because others make the comment section toxic. Just my two cents.


Somebody called someone else an "ass"? Welcome to the Internet pal. This place does well self-regulated and I'm sure Chirp doesn't have time to babysit and moderate comments all day.

Now quit being such a gibbering, assinine idiot. :) jk
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+1 #60 db7568 2011-07-25 14:26
Hey Chirp,

You wouldnt be able to tell me if mine made the cut, would you?
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0 #61 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 14:29
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting ImNotJoJo:

Somebody called someone else an "ass"? Welcome to the Internet pal. This place does well self-regulated and I'm sure Chirp doesn't have time to babysit and moderate comments all day.

Now quit being such a gibbering, assinine idiot. :) jk

You clearly haven't been reading all the comments for the past 6 months if you think the only word tossed around was 'ass'. I know this is the internet but if I wanna read 'gibbering, assinine idiots' comment on blogs, I know many other sites. This shouldn't be one of them. I know regular commenters in the past who have left this site for this exact reason. I also know youngish people who vitit this site daily because they enjoy the Sens and shouldn't be exposed to what some of you are saying. If you think this is fun, then continue on I guess. I'm not trying to be a downer, but it often gets out of hand.
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+2 #62 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 14:31
And I don't expect him to moderate all comments, but we all know who the 'Dany Heatleys of the SensChrip lockerroom' are.
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+3 #63 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-25 14:38
Quoting ImNotJoJo:

I know this is the internet but if I wanna read 'gibbering, assinine idiots' comment on blogs, I know many other sites. This shouldn't be one of them.


Today has been pretty tame on what is bound to be a strongly opinionated week where people are scrutinizing these guest posts. If you have such a problem with language or attitude here you should bring it up on a more appropriate day where people are being out of line.

And if you think this site is bad (which it certainly is not), God forbid you visit YouTube or even HockeyBuzz. You call me 'hilarious'. Hilarious would be saying that your poor spelling and grammar is damaging to the 'young' people here.
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0 #64 SensChirp 2011-07-25 14:40
Yeesh. Bit of a miscalculation on my part with this contest I guess. Really didn't expect all this bickering back and forth. Hopefully it will be a little better as the week moves along.
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-1 #65 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 14:43
Today has been pretty tame on what is bound to be a strongly opinionated week where people are scrutinizing these guest posts. If you have such a problem with language or attitude here you should bring it up on a more appropriate day where people are being out of line.

And if you think this site is bad (which it certainly is not), God forbid you visit YouTube or even HockeyBuzz. You call me 'hilarious'. Hilarious would be saying that your poor spelling and grammar is damaging to the 'young' people here.


I'm not getting into an argument with you because this is exactly what I'm talking about. If you are comparing Chrip's sites reputation with Eklund's, that's unfortunate. Guess everyone's grammar can't be as good as your grammar is. Forgive me.
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+1 #66 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-25 14:46
Chirp - I find it pretty hard to "judge" the guest post without having the context of the other authors to compare it against.

I really like the idea several have already suggested where we might all participate in a poll the day after the 5th entry has been posted.
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+1 #67 SensChirp 2011-07-25 14:49
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Chirp - I find it pretty hard to "judge" the guest post without having the context of the other authors to compare it against.

I really like the idea several have already suggested where we might all participate in a poll the day after the 5th entry has been posted.

Yea that might not be a bad idea. Also important to note that the reader reaction will only be part of the decision. Also have my own things I'm looking for as well.
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+6 #68 Sens of Peskyville 2011-07-25 14:49
Hi,

I'm a big fan of Scott Cullen's articles on TSN's that take a lot of statistics and attempt to draw some conclusion from them.

Someone on here who could do something similar with Ottawa and BSens and prospect stats once a week would be great.

Many comments reference a few stats here or there, but if we could get an article every now and then that starts from stats, I'd find that very interesting and I would expect it to spark some nice comments in terms of the interpretation of the stats.

Just my $0.02, but I would prefer something like that to today's article.
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-2 #69 Tookie 2011-07-25 14:49
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
Emery has had more than one good season....


Really?

2002-03 OTT 3 1 85 1 0 0 0 0 2 1.42 26 24 .923 0
2003-04 OTT 3 1 126 2 0 0 0 0 5 2.38 52 47 .904 0
2005-06 OTT 39 38 2168 23 11 0 4 0 102 2.82 1045 943 .902 3
2006-07 OTT 58 56 3351 33 16 0 6 3 138 2.47 1691 1553 .918 5
2007-08 OTT 31 26 1689 12 13 0 4 3 88 3.13 800 712 .890 0
2009-10 PHI 29 29 1684 16 11 0 1 3 74 2.64 783 709 .905 3
2010-11 ANH 10 9 527 7 2 0 0 2 20 2.28 272 252 .926 0

As you can see, not much consistency there, only 2006-07 he played more than 50 games. Not a legit #1.
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+2 #70 SlickRick 2011-07-25 14:50
Guys, can't we all get along. Let's take comfort in the fact we are winning the Stanley Cup this year and Konopka is going to break Orr's face? (that should get him going)
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+1 #71 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-25 14:51
I dunno about the CUP rick, don't bank on what is probably only a 50% chance.

Konopka breaking Orr's face though? I'd put that at about 95% certainty.
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0 #72 Sens of Peskyville 2011-07-25 14:51
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
Emery has had more than one good season....


Really?

2002-03 OTT 3 1 85 1 0 0 0 0 2 1.42 26 24 .923 0
2003-04 OTT 3 1 126 2 0 0 0 0 5 2.38 52 47 .904 0
2005-06 OTT 39 38 2168 23 11 0 4 0 102 2.82 1045 943 .902 3
2006-07 OTT 58 56 3351 33 16 0 6 3 138 2.47 1691 1553 .918 5
2007-08 OTT 31 26 1689 12 13 0 4 3 88 3.13 800 712 .890 0
2009-10 PHI 29 29 1684 16 11 0 1 3 74 2.64 783 709 .905 3
2010-11 ANH 10 9 527 7 2 0 0 2 20 2.28 272 252 .926 0

As you can see, not much consistency there, only 2006-07 he played more than 50 games. Not a legit #1.


Thanks Tookie for helping make my point!!!
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+1 #73 miguel 2011-07-25 14:53
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting SlickRick:
@Tookie
YEAH BUDDY!
Everytime you comment you get 10 thumbs down. Who makes an ass out of themselves? You are a Leafs troll and I've (and many others) called you on it many times but can't recall you ever denying it...weird.
Hey, If I worked at the ACC I'd be pretty knowledgable about the Leafs team/players....doesn't mean I'm a fan (get it? You serve drinks at Scotiabank place, know the team well, but hate everything about the Sens). Most of us just ignore you, but I get a kick out making fun you from time to time.


OH NO not a thumbs down, oh shit, what am I goona do? shit shit shit....haha what a douche!

Keep smokin that joint bro, your way up in the clouds, your opinion on me is in the minority, "most of us", lol, your Barbie dolls dont count bud!

is this Tookie slinging mud again...cmon Took, I thought you said you could take it?
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+2 #74 SlickRick 2011-07-25 14:56
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting SlickRick:
@Tookie
YEAH BUDDY!
Everytime you comment you get 10 thumbs down. Who makes an ass out of themselves? You are a Leafs troll and I've (and many others) called you on it many times but can't recall you ever denying it...weird.
Hey, If I worked at the ACC I'd be pretty knowledgable about the Leafs team/players....doesn't mean I'm a fan (get it? You serve drinks at Scotiabank place, know the team well, but hate everything about the Sens). Most of us just ignore you, but I get a kick out making fun you from time to time.


OH NO not a thumbs down, oh shit, what am I goona do? shit shit shit....haha what a douche!

Keep smokin that joint bro, your way up in the clouds, your opinion on me is in the minority, "most of us", lol, your Barbie dolls dont count bud!


Still don't see a denial...oh and I will smoke that joint in about 25 mins
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+1 #75 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 15:00
Haha alright guys. Though you don't care, I'm back to lurking. Enjoy what you have made Chrip's site!
PS Chirp I don't know what you expected when you let people with these track records critisize other people's work.
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-4 #76 Tookie 2011-07-25 15:01
Quoting miguel:
is this Tookie slinging mud again...cmon Took, I thought you said you could take it?


What did I do now Miguel, I wrote back, thats is "not taking it" to you? Trust me, I could care less about other people's comments towards me, but people cant see to take my comments when directed at them, we all know who they are, always the same folks, trying to sound smart and funny but never give any usefull substance to the blog.

Take for example my post where I just proved Jojo wrong, he posted non sense and I corrected him. Thats how its done! back it up!
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0 #77 Tookie 2011-07-25 15:05
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
Haha alright guys. Though you don't care, I'm back to lurking. Enjoy what you have made Chrip's site!
PS Chirp I don't know what you expected when you let people with these track records critisize other people's work.


Yeah thanks for your input, although there is nothing wrong with the site, its been constantly growing and people having discussions where we dont agree is much more fun than agreeing on everything.
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-2 #78 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-25 15:08
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
Haha alright guys. Though you don't care, I'm back to lurking. Enjoy what you have made Chrip's site!
PS Chirp I don't know what you expected when you let people with these track records critisize other people's work.


Yeah thanks for your input, although there is nothing wrong with the site, its been constantly growing and people having discussions where we dont agree is much more fun than agreeing on everything.

We all know your going back to HockeyBuzz, is that you Eklund?

I'd pay 29.99 a year to stay away from the most hated guy on this site that doesn't think Emery has a starters skillset. I call that money well spent.
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+2 #79 Sensnation 2011-07-25 15:09
Quoting Blue:
Hi,

I'm a big fan of Scott Cullen's articles on TSN's that take a lot of statistics and attempt to draw some conclusion from them.

Someone on here who could do something similar with Ottawa and BSens and prospect stats once a week would be great.

Many comments reference a few stats here or there, but if we could get an article every now and then that starts from stats, I'd find that very interesting and I would expect it to spark some nice comments in terms of the interpretation of the stats.

Just my $0.02, but I would prefer something like that to today's article.


I'm a stats guy too, would love to see more of it. Sometimes it's not always about the articles or information already being out on the internet, and more about having 1 spot that informs you of all the important ones that matter to us as fans of the Sens and their organization.
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-2 #80 Tookie 2011-07-25 15:13
Quoting SlickRick:

Still don't see a denial...oh and I will smoke that joint in about 25 mins


Again, Im an NHL fan first (I mentioned this like a million times, I guess your too high to have noticed it), do I like Ottawa, yes, do I like other Canadian teams, yes, with the exception of Montreal and now of course Vancouver for all that diving!
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-2 #81 Tookie 2011-07-25 15:17
Quoting Blue:
Thanks Tookie for helping make my point!!!


No problem, its what I do! Another one bites the dust!
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0 #82 miguel 2011-07-25 15:18
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
Haha alright guys. Though you don't care, I'm back to lurking. Enjoy what you have made Chrip's site!
PS Chirp I don't know what you expected when you let people with these track records critisize other people's work.


Yeah thanks for your input, although there is nothing wrong with the site, its been constantly growing and people having discussions where we dont agree is much more fun than agreeing on everything.

Took you did nothing wrong, all I am saying is SlickRick gave his opinion, and you started with ass, douche, and joint smoking... those in glass houses...
As for the article, well written, with, for the most part an accurate account of our last season.
And I have to agree, we have never really enjoyed, or benefited,from a legit #1 goalie, they have all let us down at some point, Emery being the closest, by getting us to the finals, but then falling apart the next year.
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-1 #83 Tookie 2011-07-25 15:28
Quoting SlickRick:
Guys, can't we all get along. Let's take comfort in the fact we are winning the Stanley Cup this year and Konopka is going to break Orr's face? (that should get him going)


Well were to begin, your actually making sense here, oh wait, no your not, I wont even comment on the Cup winning thing as its only fools banter.

But Konopka is a middleweight, check out his fights at http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1692/fightcard/reg2011.

Most of which are draw and losses to other middleweights with the occasional borderline heavyweight.

Not saying he wont fight Orr, but I have a feeling he will have his hands full with other middleweights.
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+1 #84 Johne 2011-07-25 15:47
Isn't it kind of weird that Ruutu and Karlsson are hanging out? They seem like two different kind of people. And don't the Fins HATE the Swedes?
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+4 #85 Frootmig 2011-07-25 15:57
Quoting THEBLACKTERROR:
Statement in article: We have a legitimate #1 goaltender for the first time in franchise history.

Fact: Ray Emery took the Ottawa Senators to the Stanley Cup Finals.

Fact: Dominik Hasek was 28-10-4 with a .925s% before he got hurt. Those are Vezina stats.

Revisionist history states that Ottawa never had a starter, yet both of these guys accomplished more as Senators than Craig Anderson has to this point, so indirectly castigating them to spin optimism about what is here going forward is disingenuous.

As much as people like to throw him under the bus, you've got to include Patrick Lalime in there too.

1.77 GAA & 0.926 SVP in 41 career playoff games with the Sens. One Conference Final taken to game 7. Even in the 3 Toronto series he was 2.10 GAA & 0.910 SVP. He may have let in a few bad goals, but when Sens forwards are scoring 1.78 goals per game ... how can Patty be the fall guy.
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+1 #86 brad11sens 2011-07-25 16:16
The point that fans expectations have dropped is a good one. But that only requires 2-3 lines of explanation, not an essay of repetitiveness.
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+1 #87 Sandy 2011-07-25 16:25
Quoting meadowdog:
I'd disqualify this applicant strictly on the basis of his claim that Anderson is our only legitimate number one goalie in team history. A little historical perspective please. Others have already referenced Hasek and Emery but Tugnutt and Lalime also accomplished more in their time with the Sens than Anderson has in his entire career. Did this guy just start watching hockey last year?


Hasek was the best but that injury ruined the Sens chance at a Cup run.
Lalime had good years in Ottawa will always be remembered for that game 7 fiasco.
Emery - boy in a men's body.
Anderson - IF he can play like he did his first year in Colorado he can carry a team on his shoulders. Except it will be a lot of weight this year with a lot of inexperienced players on the team.

Sens need a goalie who can steal wins. Much like some goalies the Sens play against... Miller, Price, Lundquist, THOMAS.
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+1 #88 Sandy 2011-07-25 17:02
Off topic... but found this on Sens Facebook.
Apparently SensTV gave Mark Borowiecki a video camera during the Sens prospects camp... below is some of the video should some of you wish to see it.

http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=880&id=121266
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0 #89 Sandy 2011-07-25 17:32
Another off-topic... interesting reading re: Sens draft 2011.

http://eyeonthesens.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/reviewing-ottawas-2011-draft/
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0 #90 Round Leaf 2011-07-25 17:46
Quoting Sandy:
Another off-topic... interesting reading re: Sens draft 2011.

http://eyeonthesens.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/reviewing-ottawas-2011-draft/


Interesting... they seem REALLY high on Shane Prince. It'll be interesting to watch him next year and see if he was the real deal from the Toffoli, Martindale, Prince line or the benefactor.
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+2 #91 Sandy 2011-07-25 18:08
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Sandy:
Another off-topic... interesting reading re: Sens draft 2011.

http://eyeonthesens.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/reviewing-ottawas-2011-draft/


Interesting... they seem REALLY high on Shane Prince. It'll be interesting to watch him next year and see if he was the real deal from the Toffoli, Martindale, Prince line or the benefactor.


Yeah that's true.

I'm checking out some 67's games this year.. doing Plymouth (Noeson), Peterborough (Puempel) and then another toss in...
Nice that you can see some of these prospects so close..
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+2 #92 SlickRick 2011-07-25 19:12
Ahhhh c'mon Chirp my zinger on Tookie wasn't that bad that it had to be removed...was it?
Alright I'll be good. The long offseason is getting me.
Forgiverness prease.
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+2 #93 m410 2011-07-25 19:30
Not a bad blog. Well written and presented. However, it's nothing we have not already seen or heard from several other bloggers/media types. I'd like to see something different or insightful when I read up on a Sens blog. Not expecting rocket science or some great revelation, but something that tweaks my interest or provokes some good conversation is what I'd like.

Just my two cents.
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0 #94 Round Leaf 2011-07-25 19:51
Quoting Sandy:

I'm checking out some 67's games this year.. doing Plymouth (Noeson), Peterborough (Puempel) and then another toss in...
Nice that you can see some of these prospects so close..


I don't usually check out many 67's games, but this is definitely the year to start. I don't know that we've ever had more than one first rounder in the OHL at one time.
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+2 #95 SENSational 2011-07-25 20:10
@ blackterror. I normally agree with what you have to say, however, Ray Emery sure as hell didn't bring us to the Stanley Cup finals. He was solid, no question, but he never stood on his head. He made the saves he was supposed to and occasionally made a good save. If anybody put the team on his back that year it was Daniel Alfreddson. When we faced elimination (in game 5) against the Ducks who stepped up more, Alfie or Emery? Emery let in 6 goals, Alfie scored two goals and was a beast out there. In total, he scored 4 goals in 5 games in the finals and led the playoffs in scoring. It's always difficult to compare different positions but in 07 finals theirs no comparison between Alfie and Emery.
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0 #96 Sandy 2011-07-25 20:16
Quoting Round Leaf:
Quoting Sandy:

I'm checking out some 67's games this year.. doing Plymouth (Noeson), Peterborough (Puempel) and then another toss in...
Nice that you can see some of these prospects so close..


I don't usually check out many 67's games, but this is definitely the year to start. I don't know that we've ever had more than one first rounder in the OHL at one time.



I went to a couple last year -- and quite a few during the NHL lockout. It's pretty good hockey. These young guys play with everything they have. Lots of kids there though..
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+2 #97 SkipOPot2Mus 2011-07-25 21:32
We couldve had anybody in net when we went to the finals. It was A-train and Phillips that were playing goalie for us. Emery was mediocre and below average in the finals against the Ducks.
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+1 #98 T K 2011-07-25 21:52
re: blog
I'm not into arm chair coaching (lines) or GMing ("what if" rosters) given that I care for the real game rather than video games. I crave analysis, strategy review, personel dynamics and spotting the game within the game in addition to simply.enjoying the flow of the game itself.
This blogger just doesn't fulfill my interests....

In short, for me this one was a "zzzzzzzz". Sorry
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0 #99 Round Leaf 2011-07-25 22:07
Quoting Sandy:


I went to a couple last year -- and quite a few during the NHL lockout. It's pretty good hockey. These young guys play with everything they have. Lots of kids there though..


Dunno why I never go to their games; they have a great team and I always enjoy the world juniors and the occasional memorial cup. Its also not as far to go as a Sens game: a Sens game (by bus) is a 5-6 hour commitment.
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+3 #100 NotMatt101 2011-07-25 22:40
First of all I would like to thank SensChirp for choosing my article as one of the 5 finalists. I can honestly say I had a great time writing it. It started out being about something completely different... the sens free agent acquisition of Zenon Konopka and his potential role on next years team, but I felt I had to preface it with some background on where I feel the team currently is. Approximately 1100 words into it I realized I had 2 separate entries on the go, and I didn't feel the 2nd would make as much sense without this one before it. So I trimmed it back as much as I felt I could and sent it in. I knew it probably wouldn't blow the doors off this place but I liked what it was. I think its a decent sample of my writing and how I feel about this team. Thank you all for your constructive feedback and most importantly for reading. :)
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0 #101 HamadXVagetaXAlfie 2011-07-26 02:23
Tookie do you happen to be ''Moxie'' from Sensnetwork.com ??
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+2 #102 Tookie19_ 2011-07-26 07:07
Quoting HamadXVagetaXAlfie:
Tookie do you happen to be ''Moxie'' from Sensnetwork.com??

No. I'm actually Ray Emery.
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0 #103 Anonymous Cynic 2011-07-26 08:29
Sorry to be that guy, but this is not a well-written article.

First off, I was at game 6 against the Pens two years ago. There was plenty of optimism in the fan base, not to mention we've been to the Finals within the last 5 years.

There is no way this team has more optimism surrounding it than either of those.

Secondly, sentences like this: "We have a plethora of young talent and several question marks, that if they pan out, we could have a much better team than we expect." are honestly just tough to read.

If the new contributor is not going to bring new knowledge, shouldn't eloquence be a prerequisite? This whole post is nothing but unfounded speculation and rampant hyperbole.
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0 #104 Tookie19_ 2011-07-26 08:53
Quoting Anonymous Cynic:
Sorry to be that guy, but this is not a well-written article.

First off, I was at game 6 against the Pens two years ago. There was plenty of optimism in the fan base, not to mention we've been to the Finals within the last 5 years.

There is no way this team has more optimism surrounding it than either of those.

Secondly, sentences like this: "We have a plethora of young talent and several question marks, that if they pan out, we could have a much better team than we expect." are honestly just tough to read.

If the new contributor is not going to bring new knowledge, shouldn't eloquence be a prerequisite? This whole post is nothing but unfounded speculation and rampant hyperbole.

You're a bigger ass than I am.
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0 #105 T K 2011-07-26 23:17
Quoting Tookie19_:
Quoting Anonymous Cynic:
Sorry to be that guy, but this is not a well-written article.

First off, I was at game 6 against the Pens two years ago. There was plenty of optimism in the fan base, not to mention we've been to the Finals within the last 5 years.

There is no way this team has more optimism surrounding it than either of those.

Secondly, sentences like this: "We have a plethora of young talent and several question marks, that if they pan out, we could have a much better team than we expect." are honestly just tough to read.

If the new contributor is not going to bring new knowledge, shouldn't eloquence be a prerequisite? This whole post is nothing but unfounded speculation and rampant hyperbole.

You're a bigger ass than I am.


Oddly enough, I agree with both of you! (And thanks for the best laugh I've had all week Tookie...)
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