Monday, 11 July 2011 09:48

Back At It- Sens Sign Sweatt, Conboy

(UPDATE 6:42 PM)- Another key player with the Binghamton Senators has found work elsewhere. Cody Bass has signed a one year, two way contract with the Columbus Blue Jackets. Bass was well liked by his teammates in Binghamton and he will certainly be missed. Good luck in Columbus, Cody!

(UPDATE 3:49 PM)- Busy day for the Sens as they have now signed defenceman Tim Conboy.  Conboy spent last season with the Portland Pirates of the AHL and has 59 games of NHL experience with the Carolina Hurricanes.

(UPDATE 2:53 PM)- The Sens have added some depth to the team down in Binghamton, signing defenceman Lee Sweatt to a two year, two way contract.  Sweatt appeared in two games with the Vancouver Canucks last season.

(UPDATE 12:42 PM)- Another restricted free agent has found work elsewhere. Defenceman Geoff Kinrade has signed a deal to play in the Czech league next season.  Kinrade has spent the last two seasons with Binghamton and racked up tallied five points in 23 playoff games with the Calder Cup Champion Binghamton Senators.

If there had to be a time for the SensChirp server to crash, I'm glad it happened in mid-July.

It has been a busy few days for myself and the web designer as we try to get everything here on the site back on track.  As I'm sure you've noticed, there has been a number of tweaks over the weekend but I think we are finally close to have things back to normal.

The forum is now back up after being temporarily removed.  We have also changed the comment section so that there are pages of them rather than have them all appear on a single page.  Hopefully this is just temporary and we can have the comment section back to the way it was in the near future.

Thankfully, it has been a quiet few days for the Ottawa Senators anyway.

Other than the additions of Mark Parrish and Bingo back up Mike McKenna, it has been a quite stretch for the team.

I was told over the weekend that Bryan and Tim Murray are both still working on a contract for RFA Bobby Butler and that both sides are optimistic something can get done in the near future.  It really doesn't sound like there is anything to worry about on that front.  It has been mentioned before but if the two sides can't agree on something, Butler will just sign his qualifying offer.

There is also the matter of sorting out a fairly crowded blueline.  The Sens already have Gonchar, Kuba, Phillips, Karlsson, Lee and Carkner under contract and need to find a way to make room for hopefuls like David Rundblad and Jared Cowen.  The preference would be to find a taker for Filip Kuba but obviously that is easier said than done.

This is a tough time of year to make deals. Teams are getting close to have their roster in place and want to have room to let young guys push for spots in camp.  I think the Sens may have to go with the group they have for the next little while and try to get creative a little closer to training camp. The Sens also have to careful to make sure they stay above the cap floor.

Despite his well documented struggles last season, Kuba is a guy that could help the Senators if he could regain the form of a few seasons ago.

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-1 #1 gauts26 2011-07-11 09:15
anything on Mika signing his entry level contract before July 15th????
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-1 #2 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-11 09:18
Quoting gauts26:
anything on Mika signing his entry level contract before July 15th????


The more I look at our logjam of forwards, I am starting to lean towards Mika and Silverberg playing one final year in Sweden before coming into the Sens roster ready to rock. Let them be 100% ready, and we have enough to sort out with our current players this season.
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-1 #3 Johne 2011-07-11 09:31
I would be shocked if Mika makes this team. All the scouts before the draft didn't mention him being even close to NHL ready and in a matter of months he's ready to take on a role of 2nd line center? Maybe if he's juicing...
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-1 #4 Jonny Mac 2011-07-11 10:12
You'd think some of those teams that have to reach the cap floor still would be interested in Kuba...
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-1 #5 The Apostle 2011-07-11 10:18
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting gauts26:
anything on Mika signing his entry level contract before July 15th????


The more I look at our logjam of forwards, I am starting to lean towards Mika and Silverberg playing one final year in Sweden before coming into the Sens roster ready to rock. Let them be 100% ready, and we have enough to sort out with our current players this season.


agreed - let da costa, greening, condra, regin et al have a crack at becoming established NHL players first. Zibanejad and Silfverberg would only add to the forwards log-jam and neither of them suddenly make this team a play off contender so why waste a contract year on them at the moment. Let them develop another year in the SEL and feed into the sens team when they can make a positive difference.

There's no need to rush any of our prospects.
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-1 #6 Johne 2011-07-11 10:25
Kuba's contract would be perfect for the Islanders.
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-1 #7 Digital Sens Fan 2011-07-11 10:30
Contract season for Kuba. He will perform better then most people think. COmming back from a broken femur is not easy. I have faith in the player (his confidence will be shot a bit though). Try to trade him after 20 games or closer to the deadline. Let Cowen and Rundblad get in a few AHL games. I think Rundblad will need it much like Karlsson, and it could not hur t have Cowen play down there and get in a lot of minutes and get into all aspects of the game (PP, PK, etc.).
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-1 #8 Johne 2011-07-11 10:32
Quoting Digital Sens Fan:
Contract season for Kuba. He will perform better then most people think. COmming back from a broken femur is not easy. I have faith in the player (his confidence will be shot a bit though). Try to trade him after 20 games or closer to the deadline. Let Cowen and Rundblad get in a few AHL games. I think Rundblad will need it much like Karlsson, and it could not hur t have Cowen play down there and get in a lot of minutes and get into all aspects of the game (PP, PK, etc.).


I didn't like his game before any of his injuries, hands down, the worst contract Murray has given. Could of traded him for picks/prospects but ends up giving him a contract extension.
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-1 #9 Johne 2011-07-11 10:34
@Chirp any hopes of getting the edit button back any time soon?
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-2 #10 Sensnation 2011-07-11 10:36
Kuba looked better before the injuries because he was the PP QB and thus provided reasonable amount of offense. He'll never get that role to that level again, so I doubt we can ever expect him to return to that type of production in less ideal minutes. Let's just move on from him already!
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-1 #11 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-07-11 10:41
Quoting Johne:
@Chirp any hopes of getting the edit button back any time soon?


Agree with Johne, that the Edit Button should be re-instated,and the Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down feature should not be re-instated.
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-1 #12 SensChirp 2011-07-11 10:41
I'm a little confused by that one because I can still see both of those features. I will ask!
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-1 #13 Johne 2011-07-11 10:50
Quoting SensChirp:
I'm a little confused by that one because I can still see both of those features. I will ask!


Just logged out and back in, refreshed my cache and don't see either of those features.
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-1 #14 SensFanInMTL 2011-07-11 10:52
I don't get Kuba's contract. Does he have a no movement clause that prevents him to be put on waivers? Obviously that would've been the clear solution. It happened to Lee and even at that nobody picked him up. If Cowen & Rundblad crack the team, someone's gotta come out. Two of them actually. Lee & Carkner or Lee & Kuba preferably. I wouldn't bury Gonchar just yet.
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-1 #15 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-11 10:52
As a test I tried to log out and back in to see if maybe the thumbs-up and edit functions would be restored, but I still don't have them.

Chirp - hopefully soon they will fix the problem where we currently require being logged in to view the comments and such. For new people that come here they may never realize we have a discussion community and we may be losing prospect SensChirp contributors / regulars. This is not good from the perspective of marketing and growing your site audience.
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-1 #16 SensChirp 2011-07-11 10:54
@RUSHRLZ

Agreed. Anything that has been changed is temporary while we try to isolate the problem. Optimistic we can have things back to normal either today or tomorrow.
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-1 #17 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-11 10:55
Quoting Johne:
Quoting SensChirp:
I'm a little confused by that one because I can still see both of those features. I will ask!


Just logged out and back in, refreshed my cache and don't see either of those features.


Yeah same here in both Chrome and FireFox. If I had to guess I would say your developer can enable/disable those features based on user type, and for us regular schmoes they are still disabled.
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-1 #18 Johne 2011-07-11 10:56
@RUSH

or he can just make us all admins =D
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-1 #19 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-11 11:01
Quoting Johne:
@RUSH

or he can just make us all admins =D


Yeah I can see that!

15 minutes later... "Okay guys, who banned Tookie?"

LOL
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-2 #20 Tookie 2011-07-11 11:06
Hey come on now!

It wouldnt take 15 minutes :P
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-1 #21 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-11 11:17
Quoting Tookie19:
Hey come on now!

It wouldnt take 15 minutes :P


:)
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-2 #22 Sensnation 2011-07-11 11:21
Quoting SensChirp:
I'm a little confused by that one because I can still see both of those features. I will ask!


I have the same problems, neither appear for me.
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-1 #23 MethotToMyMadness 2011-07-11 11:34
If there is one thing an NHL team can never have enough of, it's Quality D-men. We have plenty and some young guys everyone is hoping to see crack the big club (Cowen and Rundblad) but as we all know, it never hurts the development to allow them time in the AHL. We have 6 guys who can play for us already. If Murray doesn't make a move, let's just roll with it in our rebuilding process and give our future stars a chance to play better quality minutes in the lower levels. I personally think Karlsson should have had that opportunity as well. But, it is what it is. We have no problem letting Lehner continue in the AHL, so let's see those young guys get some of that action, it's good for them. Mind you, I can't wait to see both of this kids in a Sens Jersey!!
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-1 #24 IcySurfas 2011-07-11 11:40
Im still trying to figure out the rules surrounding the cap floor. Most teams are well above, and a handfull are floating right around the 48 mark (Sens, Jets, Canes, Yotes and Avs). But then you have a pair of teams near the bottom : Nashville 41 mill, and Islanders 37 mill. Both teams have a roughly full roster with a couple of spots to fill at the most....but what happens if they don't hit that Cap floor? Is it a fine? How does it work?

Especially with the Isles, they'd have to add a couple of ridiculous contracts to their roster just to get close to 48 mill.

I started getting curious about it when I realized that if the Sens were somehow able to ship off Kuba....thats a big cap chunk (3.7 mill) we'd "have too" replace to get back up to the cap floor. Also....what happens to teams that fall below the cap floor (via trades) say mid-season?
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-1 #25 Johne 2011-07-11 11:45
Geoff Kinrade, one of Calder Cup winning B-Sens' D, has inked deal to play w/ HC Plzen 1929 of the Czech Elite league.
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-1 #26 Johne 2011-07-11 11:52
It'll be pretty tough for Bingo to repeat even with the talent we're pulling in through drafts and signings. The only way I see them repeating is if Lehner is beyond outstanding.
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-1 #27 Johne 2011-07-11 11:55
According to Mirtle, theres no penalties for being under the cap floor because it can't happen. So guess if a team doesn't spend to the cap floor they're no longer a part of the NHL.
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-2 #28 Sensnation 2011-07-11 12:27
Per wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_salary_cap

Players, agents or employees found to have violated the cap face fines of $250,000 - $1 million and/or suspension. Teams found to have violated the cap face fines of up to $5 million, cancellation of contracts, loss of draft picks, loss of points and/or forfeiture of game(s) determined to have been affected by the violation of the cap.
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-2 #29 Tookie 2011-07-11 12:29
Quoting Johne:
Geoff Kinrade, one of Calder Cup winning B-Sens' D, has inked deal to play w/ HC Plzen 1929 of the Czech Elite league.


Thats good for him as I dont think we would have ever given him a fair shot.
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-1 #30 Johne 2011-07-11 12:29
@JABS

thats for circumventing the cap. like kovalchuck's contract.
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-2 #31 Sensnation 2011-07-11 12:38
Quoting Johne:
@JABS

thats for circumventing the cap. like kovalchuck's contract.


And what would you call not reaching the cap floor? Circumventing the cap!
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-1 #32 two to Tootoo too 2011-07-11 12:45
"The Sens also have to careful to make sure they stay above the cap floor."

Anyone know what the punishment is if they don't ?
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-1 #33 Johne 2011-07-11 12:52
Thats true, without Kuba it'll be interesting how they get to the floor.
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-1 #34 Sensnation 2011-07-11 12:55
Quoting two to Tootoo too:
"The Sens also have to careful to make sure they stay above the cap floor."

Anyone know what the punishment is if they don't ?


Read post 28
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-1 #35 Johne 2011-07-11 13:02
Actually now that I look at it. Removing Kuba's contract puts us exactly at the floor. But adding Cowen + Rundblad would put us ~2 mil over or so.
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-1 #36 King BM 2011-07-11 13:08
Quoting SensChirp:
@RUSHRLZ

Agreed. Anything that has been changed is temporary while we try to isolate the problem. Optimistic we can have things back to normal either today or tomorrow.


I honestly thought the Gov. restricted access to Senschirp i was gonna get mad and go see my boss
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-1 #37 gauts26 2011-07-11 13:15
SENS SIGN D-MEN TO REPLACE KINRADE

http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=569033
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-1 #38 Donny1619 2011-07-11 13:20
Sens sign Lee Sweatt, nice signing
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-1 #39 Sandy 2011-07-11 13:40
Quoting two to Tootoo too:
"The Sens also have to careful to make sure they stay above the cap floor."

Anyone know what the punishment is if they don't ?


I think they are not able to benefit from revenue sharing? Not positive on that.

Hate to see Kinrade go.. he was a great shot blocking D. Chirp.. you said he was an RFA... does that mean he was not qualified by the Sens?

So who is left on D in Bingo next year that is signed.
Schira, Borowiecki, Gryba, Weircoch -- Cowen, Rundblad -- just saw the Lee Sweatt signing. Who else can come up from Elmira?
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-1 #40 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-11 13:41
^----- yeah. sounds like a guy who could even step into the bigs for a couple of games if injuries on our blue line *really* piled up.
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-1 #41 Frootmig 2011-07-11 13:48
Quoting two to Tootoo too:
"The Sens also have to careful to make sure they stay above the cap floor."

Anyone know what the punishment is if they don't ?

The CBA states that "No Club shall, after commencement of the regular season, be permitted to have an Averaged Club Salary that falls below the Lower Limit for that League Year."

The CBA isn't specific on punishment, but I'm assuming it would be fines in the range of those listed above, in addition to eligibility for revenue sharing or escrow payments in the event of a league revenue shortfall.

During the season, the league would nix any trades etc that would take a team below the cap floor. Typically teams have until 5pm eastern each day to solve cap problems (i.e. you trade too much money away, you have to make a move, trade or recall, by 5pm, that brings in salary that gets you back in compliance with the cap expectations).
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-1 #42 Johne 2011-07-11 13:54
Regarding the cap situation. I think Mirtle was right when he said it can't happen. There's no fines or penalties because it simply cannot and will not happen. So regarding Nashville and NYI, they have some signings and trades that need to happen and will happen.
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-2 #43 Tookie 2011-07-11 13:55
Quoting Johne:
Actually now that I look at it. Removing Kuba's contract puts us exactly at the floor. But adding Cowen + Rundblad would put us ~2 mil over or so.


Johne you have to come to terms that Kuba is going nowhere, we are stuck with him for another year. The Sens org is in no hurry to get rid of him.
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-1 #44 Johne 2011-07-11 14:02
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Johne:
Actually now that I look at it. Removing Kuba's contract puts us exactly at the floor. But adding Cowen + Rundblad would put us ~2 mil over or so.


Johne you have to come to terms that Kuba is going nowhere, we are stuck with him for another year. The Sens org is in no hurry to get rid of him.


I've come to those terms as well. But there is a chance that floor teams could want him. He is horrible for us (with our depth on D), but for teams that could use a PP QB, he still isn't that bad of an option, like an overpaid MA Bergeron.
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0 #45 JoeyD 2011-07-11 14:17
Here's hoping for a Blood - Sweatt pairing
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0 #46 JoeyD 2011-07-11 14:17
Here's hoping for a Blood - Sweatt pairing
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-1 #47 hockey1608 2011-07-11 14:17
Is it two years or one, cause I saw on the Facebook page they say it's one?
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-1 #48 SensChirp 2011-07-11 14:18
Quoting hockey1608:
Is it two years or one, cause I saw on the Facebook page they say it's one?

Two year deal.
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0 #49 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-11 14:25
TSN says one year, but I believe you Chrip! Also, he played 3 games with the Canucks last year, not that it matters.
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-1 #50 SensChirp 2011-07-11 14:26
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
TSN says one year, but I believe you Chrip! Also, he played 3 games with the Canucks last year, not that it matters.

Just going with what the Sens are saying. Initially they printed it as a one year deal but have switched it to two.
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-1 #51 Johne 2011-07-11 14:36
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/the-top-nhl-free-agents-without-a-home/article2093637/
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-1 #52 Round Leaf 2011-07-11 14:39
Off topic here, but does anyone know when the Sens facebook page draft contest ('Predict the Pick') draw is going to be held, or if it has already been held?
I chose Zibanejad, so at least I'm entered. I think my odds are halfway decent, since a lot of people were sure we were going with Strome or Couturier.
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-1 #53 SensChirp 2011-07-11 14:52
Sens have added more Bingo depth, signing Tim Conboy. One year, two way deal.
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-1 #54 gauts26 2011-07-11 15:04
SENS ARE BUILDING A TOUGH TEAM TO PLAY AGAINST.

CARKNER
NEIL
SMITH
KONOPKA
CONBOY (2-WAY)
LESSARD (2-WAY)
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-1 #55 gauts26 2011-07-11 15:07
Quoting SensChirp:
Sens have added more Bingo depth, signing Tim Conboy. One year, one way deal.


TWO-WAY DEAL I HOPE
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-1 #56 SensChirp 2011-07-11 15:08
Quoting gauts26:
Quoting SensChirp:
Sens have added more Bingo depth, signing Tim Conboy. One year, one way deal.


TWO-WAY DEAL I HOPE

Yea sorry bout that! Two way deal.
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-1 #57 Johne 2011-07-11 15:21
Oh noooooo, comment pages are back lol.

but I now see the edit button. still no ratings.
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-1 #58 NotwinninforM­acKinnon 2011-07-11 15:25
@chirp

You hear anything about Nikolai Zherdev and the Sens talking contract ?
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-1 #59 NickG 2011-07-11 15:41
Hey Chirp, the "recently updated" feature of the forum seems to be gone. Is there any way to get that back? Or was it causing problems too?

Also Lee Sweatt is a good pickup. He was noticeably reliable here with the Moose.
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-1 #60 RUSHRLZ 2011-07-11 15:44
First off Chirp, none of the little site quirks bother me much and I know these issues are being worked on.

I just thought I'd mention that the spreading of comments over multiple pages would be increasing your server load, not alleviating it. When we refresh with the browser refresh button, or we hit the "Refresh Comments List" link at the bottom of the discussions pages... this takes us back to the first comments page and doesn't keep us on, as of right now, page #2.

This means each time we want to see if there is a new comment, we have to refresh and reload two entire pages from the server. just throwing that feedback out there.
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-1 #61 timwrx 2011-07-11 15:46
Awesome! Conboy and Lessard patrolling down here! Love it!
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-1 #62 Johne 2011-07-11 16:04
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/7/8/2250696/nhl-broadcaster-rankings-announcers-commentators
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-1 #63 Sandy 2011-07-11 16:07
Quoting Round Leaf:
Off topic here, but does anyone know when the Sens facebook page draft contest ('Predict the Pick') draw is going to be held, or if it has already been held?
I chose Zibanejad, so at least I'm entered. I think my odds are halfway decent, since a lot of people were sure we were going with Strome or Couturier.


I guessed Strome... damn NYI.
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-1 #64 Sandy 2011-07-11 16:09
Quoting timwrx:
Awesome! Conboy and Lessard patrolling down here! Love it!


Don't know a lot about Conboy? I assume he's a physical player?

It's not taking Murray long to fill up the defense in Bingo. Does this mean.. with these 2 signings that Cowen & Rundblad won't be part of Binghamton next season?
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-1 #65 timwrx 2011-07-11 16:13
Sandy I think it just gives the option to move guys up and down for possible refinement ect. Kinda like Karlsson the other year grabbing 11 games in Bingo.
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-1 #66 Sensnation 2011-07-11 16:13
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting timwrx:
Awesome! Conboy and Lessard patrolling down here! Love it!


Don't know a lot about Conboy? I assume he's a physical player?

It's not taking Murray long to fill up the defense in Bingo. Does this mean.. with these 2 signings that Cowen & Rundblad won't be part of Binghamton next season?



Personally I think it's been obvious that was the plan for quite a while now. Both belong in the nhl in the fall!
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-1 #67 timwrx 2011-07-11 16:15
Conboy is very physical. 233 pims last year. Scored the game winner for Portland here in game 3 I believe. Only goal of the year!
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-1 #68 Sandy 2011-07-11 17:25
Quoting timwrx:
Sandy I think it just gives the option to move guys up and down for possible refinement ect. Kinda like Karlsson the other year grabbing 11 games in Bingo.


TIMWRX -- Are there any rumours in Bingo about Hale & Derek Smith? Are they leaving as well? What about Daugavins?

Seems a lot of key players could be out in Binghamton... but with Petersson, Caporusso & Wacey Hamilton along with these two D signings.. I guess their spots were easily filled. What about Elmira players that could move up to Bingo. What about Brust.
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-1 #69 Sandy 2011-07-11 17:27
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting timwrx:
Awesome! Conboy and Lessard patrolling down here! Love it!


Don't know a lot about Conboy? I assume he's a physical player?

It's not taking Murray long to fill up the defense in Bingo. Does this mean.. with these 2 signings that Cowen & Rundblad won't be part of Binghamton next season?



Personally I think it's been obvious that was the plan for quite a while now. Both belong in the nhl in the fall!



Right now there is no room - crowded blueline.

Phillips & Karlsson definitely stay.
Gonchar will stay to bring along Filatov.
Kuba -- who would take him?
Lee & Carkner -- what about them...
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0 #70 sben 2011-07-11 17:28
martin st pierre was signed by the columbus blue jackets recently
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-2 #71 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-07-11 17:47
Wow, good for Cody Bass!

Still some decent names left among the free agents.

Would Chris Drury not be a reasonable option as a second line centre for one year? he would be a veteran presence on a young team that would add depth. His stock seemed to have fallen, ge wouldn't be that expensive.

I'd rather sign him for one year while our players develop, then take a chance on a guy like Peter Regin who scored three goals in 55 games last season :S
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-1 #72 The Apostle 2011-07-11 18:06
At least Peter Regin can still walk, if Chris Drury was any more injured he would be dead.

What harm does giving Regin and Da Costa a shot a 2C do? It's not like we would be in the playoffs if only we could find a decent 2nd line centre.

No more 1 way contracts please.
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-1 #73 oakster15 2011-07-11 18:10
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:

Would Chris Drury not be a reasonable option as a second line centre for one year? he would be a veteran presence on a young team that would add depth. His stock seemed to have fallen, ge wouldn't be that expensive.

I'd rather sign him for one year while our players develop, then take a chance on a guy like Peter Regin who scored three goals in 55 games last season :S


its been mentioned before and already discussed. Drury was bought out because his knee is shot. he is done, or will never live up to what he was if he ever plays again..

stop the drury talk please. Lets see Regin play before we write him off for the season. He had great year before last, and hit some injury trouble. Ottawa has a bunch of "meh" centers, hopefully one will prove themselves early in the season
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-1 #74 Round Leaf 2011-07-11 18:22
Quoting oakster15:

stop the drury talk please.


Well put. I think they'll give Regin the last glorious opportunity that he'll have with us next season. With a very talented, yet unproven youth on one wing (Filatov or Butler) and an experienced two-way forward with strong playmaking ability and scoring touch on the other (Michalek or Alfredsson) Regin's numbers might not end up being so terrible next season, and definitely will be an improvement on last year.

I still don't think that he has a long term future with this team - the same with Foligno. Neither of them resemble the type of players that Murray and the scouting staff has been drafting the past 4 years. That's not to say that Regin shouldn't be given this opportunity. The best case scenario is he shines in a year with zero expectations on the team and bolsters his trade value.
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0 #75 Round Leaf 2011-07-11 18:32
Either that or Zibanejad wows the staff in the next 3 months or they convince Silfverberg to stay in North America next year.
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0 #76 Sandy 2011-07-11 18:34
Do you think it would be better for Regin to play with Michalek & Alfie... and let Spezza try Butler & Filatov.

Remember Foligno & Regin were Muckler draft picks...

I think coming into last season he tried 'to rest on his laurels' from the playoffs and his world championships.

Maybe coming into next season, he will have worked hard the off-season and be ready to play.
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+1 #77 Round Leaf 2011-07-11 19:11
@ Sandy

I don't like the idea of two rookies on the same line, even with Spezza between them.

I know a lot of people thought that Michalek and Spezza had no chemistry, but this could all change with a new coaching system. I'm looking forward to seeing what combos come out of training camp.
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-1 #78 paul4 2011-07-11 19:19
When a player like Cody Bass (an RFA) signs elsewhere, do we get compensation in some way?
Same goes for Wick & Potulny playing in Europe, do we get financial compensation? Or do they stay RFA if they decide to return to the NHL.
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-2 #79 sben 2011-07-11 19:21
senschirp can you please look into martin st pierre going to columbus too because im 5000000% sure that he is leaving bingo
here is a link saying that hes gone

http://theahl.com/columbus-inks-st-pierre-byers-p171668

havent any of you heard of this? Iknow hes not a key player but im still surprised no one heard of this and hes been on columbus for like 5 hours cmon senschirp if youre saying bass left youre saying st pierre left
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0 #80 SensChirp 2011-07-11 19:21
Quoting paul4:
When a player like Cody Bass (an RFA) signs elsewhere, do we get compensation in some way?
Same goes for Wick & Potulny playing in Europe, do we get financial compensation? Or do they stay RFA if they decide to return to the NHL.

Not in this case. The Sens did not qualify Bass so there is no compensation.
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+1 #81 SensChirp 2011-07-11 19:22
Quoting sben:
senschirp can you please look into martin st pierre going to columbus too because im 5000000% sure that he is leaving bingo
here is a link saying that hes gone

http://theahl.com/columbus-inks-st-pierre-byers-p171668

havent any of you heard of this? Iknow hes not a key player but im still surprised no one heard of this and hes been on columbus for like 5 hours cmon senschirp if youre saying bass left youre saying st pierre left

Yes, St. Pierre has signed on with CBJ. Believe he was in Europe last year. That means I'm really late getting the news up on the site.
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0 #82 timwrx 2011-07-11 20:16
Sandy,

No word on Derek Smith yet. I imagine he will be elsewhere to get a better chance at the NHL or Europe. Same with Daugs. Really sad to see this many guys go, but understandable.
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0 #83 gauts26 2011-07-11 20:38
One way D-men
Phillips, Gonchar, Kuba, Lee, Carkner

Entry Level
Karlsson, Cowen, Rundblad, Wiercioch, Gryba, Borowiecki, Schira

Two way

Conboy and Sweatt

Thats 14 d-men to fill 12 spots, and theres still hale, smith or benoit to sign.

Will Murray be looking to trade some d-man????
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+2 #84 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-07-11 20:39
Sens have until this Friday to sign Zibanejad to the team.

I guess all odds are him returning back to Sweden.

Right move.
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-3 #85 SensFanInMTL 2011-07-12 02:31
What the hell is with all of these signings? The draft and Filatov was a huge step in the building process, I have no clue what Murray is trying to accomplish with these 2 and the others from a few days ago (McKenna, etc.) Konopka should be exciting to watch alongside Neil.
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+1 #86 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-07-12 06:22
Hey Chirp,

Double checked from my previous post in Moving On...,
and noticed that I do have the Edit Button !

ALSO SEE IT ON THIS POST !!
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0 #87 sben 2011-07-12 06:28
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
What the hell is with all of these signings? The draft and Filatov was a huge step in the building process, I have no clue what Murray is trying to accomplish with these 2 and the others from a few days ago (McKenna, etc.) Konopka should be exciting to watch alongside Neil.


its to replace all the people in bingo that are leaving konopka was for a 2 line center but the rest are for bingo.
I think sweatt and conboy are supposed to be for two guys that bryan murray will not sign. I think that derek smith might be one of the people brian murray wont sign.
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+2 #88 The Apostle 2011-07-12 08:17
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
What the hell is with all of these signings? The draft and Filatov was a huge step in the building process, I have no clue what Murray is trying to accomplish with these 2 and the others from a few days ago (McKenna, etc.) Konopka should be exciting to watch alongside Neil.


It's difficult to field a team in the AHL when you don't have enough players.

They frown on that.
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+2 #89 Tookie 2011-07-12 08:43
Quoting sben:
its to replace all the people in bingo that are leaving Konopka was for a 2 line center but the rest are for bingo.


Konopka is not playing 2nd line centre, LMAO!!

He's gonna be on the 3rd or 4th line.
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+3 #90 SensChirp 2011-07-12 09:10
Looks like the comment section is back to normal. It may take a little while for some of you but I believe we almost have things back to the way they were!
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+6 #91 Hax 2011-07-12 09:32
Maybe Chirp needs to have a special secret page to announce AHL signings that only smart fans can see. That way people won't be freaking out wondering how Murray could dare sign guys that aren't top 6 forwards.

Some of these posts are just sad.
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0 #92 PraiseAlfie84 2011-07-12 09:55
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting sben:
its to replace all the people in bingo that are leaving Konopka was for a 2 line center but the rest are for bingo.


Konopka is not playing 2nd line centre, LMAO!!

He's gonna be on the 3rd or 4th line.


He'll be a 4th liner for sure....
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+3 #93 Johne 2011-07-12 10:01
@Chirp

Comments lookin good.

I find it kind of depressing that the remaining big name UFA list contains a fair amount of recent former Ottawa Senators that can't find work. Ruutu, Stillman, Emery, Kovalev.
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-1 #94 Tookie 2011-07-12 10:50
@ Johne

Well to be fair, they were not longtime Senators, mostly quick pick ups, so I dont really care for them.

Except Emery, he was a Sens prospect. But thats it!
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0 #95 Johne 2011-07-12 10:56
@Tookie

Thats what is kind of depressing to me. We acquired everyone except Emery through free agency or trade.
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-1 #96 Tookie 2011-07-12 11:00
Ruutu, Stillman and Kovalev all played for other teams before us, so its not like we were the only ones to give them a shot.

They dont represent the Sens anymore so I could care less. The way I look at it, Ruutu is a former penguin, Stillman is a former hurricane/light ning and Kovalev a former habs. None of them should be remembered as a Sens.
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0 #97 Johne 2011-07-12 11:02
http://twitter.com/mirtle - Oilers sent Cogliano to the Ducks for a second-round pick.
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+1 #98 SensChirp 2011-07-12 11:06
Quoting Johne:
http://twitter.com/mirtle - Oilers sent Cogliano to the Ducks for a second-round pick.

Sens have been mentioned in Colgiano rumours before. Would have been an interesting pick up but still wouldn't solidify that second line centre spot.

Rather try to fill it in house than add a guy like Cogliano.
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-1 #99 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 11:07
Quoting Hax:
Maybe Chirp needs to have a special secret page to announce AHL signings that only smart fans can see. That way people won't be freaking out wondering how Murray could dare sign guys that aren't top 6 forwards.

Some of these posts are just sad.


I think he should do a seperate tab on the page for Bsens news and call it BSensChirp like I proposed during the Calder Cup run.
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0 #100 Johne 2011-07-12 11:09
I just can't get over the fact that we had a trade in place for Penner, Cogliano, and Smid.

Penner is worth a 1st round pick and prospect
Cogliano is worth a 2nd round pick

But instead we got

Michalek
Cheechoo doesn't even play in the NHL anymore.

:/ FUCK YOU DANY.
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-1 #101 Tookie 2011-07-12 11:15
@ Johne

Yeah pretty sad when you think about it. I think he made a bad move, knowing what he was getting, no way I pull the trigger on a deal that involves Michalek and Cheechoo, Im sure Murray pushed for others, like Ehrhoff, Setoguchi but he wasnt in a position of strength. I said sit Heatley for the year and I still believe its what we should have done!
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0 #102 SensChops 2011-07-12 11:19
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Johne

I said sit Heatley for the year and I still believe its what we should have done!


I completely agree with this. Should have put him in the press box like we did to Yashin, instead of forcing a trade. I know Yashin was a different situation, but still.
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-1 #103 Johne 2011-07-12 11:21
@Tookie

I don't blame Murray one bit. He could of traded Heatley for a 7th round pick, just getting that guy out of town was what had to be done. I wish really really horrible things on Heatley for being a selfcentered douchebag that couldn't go through proper channels to get a trade done. Look at what Murray did for Kelly and Fisher, you can't tell me that Murray was the one that messed up. Heatley should of never gone public with his trade request and he will forever be remembered for it.
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-1 #104 Sandy 2011-07-12 11:21
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
What the hell is with all of these signings? The draft and Filatov was a huge step in the building process, I have no clue what Murray is trying to accomplish with these 2 and the others from a few days ago (McKenna, etc.) Konopka should be exciting to watch alongside Neil.


Those players drafted this year -- with the exception of 1 or 2 -- won't be playing pro hockey for 3 - 4 yrs.

The two D signed today are to replace the ones leaving in Binghamton.
Not sure who Konopka will be replacing.... Shannon?
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-1 #105 Tookie 2011-07-12 11:25
Quoting Sandy:
The two D signed today are to replace the ones leaving in Binghamton.
Not sure who Konopka will be replacing.... Shannon?


He'll be taking Z. Smith spot on the 4th line as Zach moves up to 3rd.

Shannon was a spare, he had no spot.
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-2 #106 Tookie 2011-07-12 11:28
Quoting Johne:
@Tookie

I don't blame Murray one bit. He could of traded Heatley for a 7th round pick, just getting that guy out of town was what had to be done. I wish really really horrible things on Heatley for being a selfcentered douchebag that couldn't go through proper channels to get a trade done. Look at what Murray did for Kelly and Fisher, you can't tell me that Murray was the one that messed up. Heatley should of never gone public with his trade request and he will forever be remembered for it.


I agree with you that Heatley forced Murray's hand slightly, BM still had the option to not trade him, sit him for a year, maybe halfway through or before the season starts he has a change of heart and comes back to score 50 goals? who knows.

The point was Murray had ATLEAST 2 options, the trade with SJ and benching Heatley, I would have benched him, considering what SJ was offering....gar bage!
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-1 #107 Johne 2011-07-12 11:29
Z Smith will not be a center on this team. He will likely be on Konopka's wing along with Neil.
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0 #108 Johne 2011-07-12 11:34
I've completely forgotten about Winchester

Filatov/Spezza/Butler
Michalek/Foligno/Alfy
Greening/Regin/Condra
Z Smith/Konopka/Neil

Winchester doesn't fit in on any of those lines except the 4th line, and Konopka easily gets the nod over him. Guess he sits in the box with Kuba or Carkner lol.
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+3 #109 The Apostle 2011-07-12 11:37
I like the idea of benching Heatley way back when but

1) it's not my 8 million dollars being paid to a guy to do nothing

2) clearly the guy was not a positive force in the dressing room, why have that around for any longer than you needed too

i was saying at the time that the Heatley thing was a blessing in disguise and I still believe that. The cap situation would have been untenable moving forward with so much tied up in Spezza, Heatley, Alfie and Fisher. We had far too much money tied up in 4 forwards.

Would we be in better shape now if we had of got Setoguchi, Clowe or Couture instead of Cheechoo - yes we would, but one thing I think we can all agree on is that we are better off with Heatley wearing a different jersey than ours.
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+2 #110 SlickRick 2011-07-12 11:38
Not Heatley again...pfft
While we're on it, Muckler should not have let Chara go!
I wish I could wake up and it was October 2012 (the year of Sens/Yakopov)!! !!
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-2 #111 Sensnation 2011-07-12 11:40
@Chirp, so great to have the old site back! Thanks to your team for all the work on that!

@Tookie & Johne - Don't give up on Michalek yet, he's still the best player that was available in either Heatley trade scenario and if he can get his injury behind him now that he's fully recovered from surgery, we should have a pretty dependable 25-30goal scorer with ~55+pts on the 2nd line, who can play in any situation (PK, PP or even strength)!
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-2 #112 Johne 2011-07-12 11:42
@JABS

I agree, but he has been a complete waste with Spezza. I really hope that experiment is over and he sticks on the 2nd line. My jaw does drop at Michalek's speed when he is fully healthy.
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-2 #113 Tookie 2011-07-12 11:42
@ Johne

You do realize we are already weak at the C spot, Smith played all year at the C spot, why move him to wing?

1. Spezza 56.3% in 1210 faceoffs
2. Regin 41.8% in 316
3. Smith 53.9% in 388
4. Konopka 57.7% 1075
5. Greening 45.8% in 24
6. Winchester 55.6% in 545

Da Costa is going to Bingo.
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-2 #114 Johne 2011-07-12 11:48
@Tookie

Z Smith isn't going to make or break our team @ center, he just doesn't have the foot speed to play on our 2nd or 3rd line. The only place he can play center is on our 4th line, which I give Winchester or Konopka ahead on the depth chart.
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0 #115 Sensnation 2011-07-12 11:58
Quoting Johne:
@JABS

I agree, but he has been a complete waste with Spezza. I really hope that experiment is over and he sticks on the 2nd line. My jaw does drop at Michalek's speed when he is fully healthy.


A complete waste is a bit strong. Both he and Spezza have dealt with injuries, and there have been times like early 2009-10 where they did click, however yes Michalek does seem to do better with Alfie and does not match the offense Spezza needs to be able to create. I think that's why so many of us are penciling Filatov on the 1st line with Butler and Spezza, creates a higher potential ceiling for the 1st line, and Michalek seems perfect for a good all around 2nd line that can keep the other teams offensive line down.
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0 #116 Tookie 2011-07-12 12:03
Quoting Johne:
@Tookie

Z Smith isn't going to make or break our team @ center, he just doesn't have the foot speed to play on our 2nd or 3rd line. The only place he can play center is on our 4th line, which I give Winchester or Konopka ahead on the depth chart.


He doesnt need to, either Konopka starts 3rd and SMith starts 4th, either way they are bottom 6 players and will be moslty used on faceoffs and PK.
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0 #117 Johne 2011-07-12 12:05
@JABS

you're right about being a bit harsh, but he is not a 1st line caliber player and we tried to make him into one, and I guess he isn't to blame, but its been a frustrating top line for a while now and I hope MacL doesn't fall into the same routine. I think I'd rather see Foligno crashing the net on the top line than see Michalek doing a whole lot of nothing with Spezza.
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-3 #118 Tookie 2011-07-12 12:05
Quoting JABSmilez:
and Michalek seems perfect for a good all around 2nd line that can keep the other teams offensive line down.


I think with the lack of a decent 2C, Michalek and Alfie will struggle and will be taking most of the losses on their shoulders...Mea ning their line will suck and cost us many games.

That will force MacLean to adjust, will be fun to see how he adapts!
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-3 #119 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:09
Quoting Johne:
I think I'd rather see Foligno crashing the net on the top line than see Michalek doing a whole lot of nothing with Spezza.


That line was music to my ears, I've been saying that since last summer. Foligno can play with anyone and seems to be able to read Spezza, he just has trouble with the finishing aspect, but hopefully he works on that this summer.
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0 #120 SensChops 2011-07-12 12:13
Quoting SlickRick:
Not Heatley again...pfft
While we're on it, Muckler should not have let Chara go!


Hahaha! I think the Chara thing might even be worse than the Heatley fiasco. At least we got something in return for heatley. Chara was just let go...
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-2 #121 Johne 2011-07-12 12:14
I don't think its out of the realm of possibility either that if Filatov doesn't make the team, you could see a player like Foligno play on the top line, forcing Greening or Condra to step into a 2nd line role which I think both are easily capable of filling and I still believe that Condra could actually step in as our 2nd line center.
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0 #122 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:17
Quoting Johne:
I don't think its out of the realm of possibility either that if Filatov doesn't make the team, you could see a player like Foligno play on the top line, forcing Greening or Condra to step into a 2nd line role which I think both are easily capable of filling and I still believe that Condra could actually step in as our 2nd line center.


Agreed, Greening and Condra are the most interesting players right now simply because they could slot anywhere from the 1st to 4th line depending on which way the coach wants to go and who they create chemistry with. 2 months seems so long to go!
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0 #123 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 12:21
Quoting Johne:
I don't think its out of the realm of possibility either that if Filatov doesn't make the team, you could see a player like Foligno play on the top line, forcing Greening or Condra to step into a 2nd line role which I think both are easily capable of filling and I still believe that Condra could actually step in as our 2nd line center.


The thought of Foligno on the top line and Greening and Condra in the top 6 just made me puke.
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-1 #124 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:22
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting Johne:
I don't think its out of the realm of possibility either that if Filatov doesn't make the team, you could see a player like Foligno play on the top line, forcing Greening or Condra to step into a 2nd line role which I think both are easily capable of filling and I still believe that Condra could actually step in as our 2nd line center.


The thought of Foligno on the top line and Greening and Condra in the top 6 just made me puke.


You say that like we didn't see it at all last year ... those were actually some of the lineups that worked in the 2nd half, not sure why you feel so uncomfortable with them.
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-1 #125 Tookie 2011-07-12 12:24
Quoting Johne:
I don't think its out of the realm of possibility either that if Filatov doesn't make the team, you could see a player like Foligno play on the top line, forcing Greening or Condra to step into a 2nd line role which I think both are easily capable of filling and I still believe that Condra could actually step in as our 2nd line center.


Condra is not a centre, never played it and never will. And as for the obvious, he isnt top 6 material. Especially not with the slew of talent we have coming up (Noesen, Puempel, Zibanejad, Stone)

Condra is a 3rd liner. You have to come to your senses!!
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-1 #126 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 12:24
@Jab
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.
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0 #127 boom 2011-07-12 12:25
Quoting Johne:
I don't think its out of the realm of possibility either that if Filatov doesn't make the team, you could see a player like Foligno play on the top line, forcing Greening or Condra to step into a 2nd line role which I think both are easily capable of filling and I still believe that Condra could actually step in as our 2nd line center.

So you think Condra and Greening are capable of stepping in as 2nd line roles, but Zach Smith isn't capable of being our 3rd line centre? I think you'll see Smith start the season as 3rd line centre and be given every chance to stay there.
When he, Condra, and Greening went down to Bingo for the playoffs, it was Smith who was given the largest role, and he played at centre and did very well...
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-4 #128 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:29
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.


So a team that went 15-10-2 in their last 27 makes u puke ... good to know
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+1 #129 Johne 2011-07-12 12:30
@JABS

still blows my mind how Condra and Greening weren't on anyones radar to start the season last year and they seemed to fit in effortlessly to the NHL. I consider myself to follow the Sens organization pretty closely from top to bottom and both those guys were nobodies to me playing in Bingo. Half a season in Bingo and they're probably our most NHL ready prospects. The credit goes to KK or some extreme personal motivation and hard work.
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0 #130 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 12:30
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.


So a team that went 15-10-2 in their last 27 makes u puke ... good to know


Yeah and it was all Foligno , Greening, and Condra, the superstars! wow.
Give the credit where it is due Jabs.. Spezza, Karlsson, Butler, and Andswer.
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-2 #131 Tookie 2011-07-12 12:32
Its alot easier to justify players playing out of position when your team is this bad. Can Condra & Greening and Foligno be in the top 6 this year, sure can, should they, HELL NO!

They have shots of playing in the top 6 because we suck so much, on any decent team these guys are 3rd liners. We need help thus we plug them in and see what they do while our top prospects develop and replace them.
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0 #132 Tookie 2011-07-12 12:36
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.


So a team that went 15-10-2 in their last 27 makes u puke ... good to know


Yeah and it was all Foligno , Greening and Condra, the superstars! wow.
Give the credit where it is due Jabs.. Spezza, Karlsson, Butler, and Andswer.


I agree, Foligno, Greening & Condra were not the reason we had that nice streak (which made us lose Landeskog!!!).

They are great 3rd liners but will have shots to play top 6 only because its a team rebuilding.
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-1 #133 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:40
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.


So a team that went 15-10-2 in their last 27 makes u puke ... good to know


Yeah and it was all Foligno , Greening, and Condra, the superstars! wow.
Give the credit where it is due Jabs.. Spezza, Karlsson, Butler, and Andswer.


When did I take any credit away from any of those players? Condra and Greening both provided key contributions throughout that stretch, u cannot deny that either. We ended the year with a good group and we'll start this year with an even better one!

Also nowhere did I call them superstars!
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0 #134 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 12:41
Not if Foligno, Condra, and Greening are consistantly in the top 6!
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-3 #135 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:42
Quoting Johne:
@JABS

still blows my mind how Condra and Greening weren't on anyones radar to start the season last year and they seemed to fit in effortlessly to the NHL. I consider myself to follow the Sens organization pretty closely from top to bottom and both those guys were nobodies to me playing in Bingo. Half a season in Bingo and they're probably our most NHL ready prospects. The credit goes to KK or some extreme personal motivation and hard work.


I think they both were expected to be borderline NHL players and have since upgraded themselves to players you can depend on in the bottom 6 and plug and play elsewhere as needed. It's nice to see for sure.
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+2 #136 Johne 2011-07-12 12:44
While Condra and Greening both are by no means superstars, I still think they both have a top 6 ceiling, which is more than you can say about a lot of our prospects. Greening especially with his speed and frame, but Condra's smarts and vision make him dangerous to me.
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-3 #137 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:45
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Not if Foligno, Condra, and Greening are consistantly in the top 6!


I hate debating with people like u, u can't read a comment to save your life. If 1 of those 3 is in the top 6 at a time, we are fine. If all 3 are our 1st line we have problems. Thankfully we've been discussing a situation where 1, maybe 2 is in the top 6, so maybe u can actually join the conversation we're having. They all fill in well in the roles they have experimented with so far and the experiment will just continue. Seeing condra or greening on the 2nd line on opening night DOES NOT mean our season is over before it started.
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-2 #138 Sensnation 2011-07-12 12:54
Quoting Captain Alfie:


At this point you are talking to yourself troll.


Ya I guess u missed the convo Johne, Tookie and I were having. I should know better then to expect you to read on a website.
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+1 #139 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 12:55
So you are an expert?
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+6 #140 SensChirp 2011-07-12 12:56
Quoting Captain Alfie:
So you are an expert?

Gonna have to give you the extra two minutes for instigating on this one :)
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-2 #141 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 12:57
LOL
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+1 #142 Johne 2011-07-12 12:59
I'm so confused. lol
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+1 #143 Sandy 2011-07-12 12:59
I think with Heatley situation... Murray did not want a malcontent around the dressing room.

They had enough issues during the Paddock/Hartsbu rg era... they did not want more.

Murray had wanted Michalek for a long time -- so I guess that is why he went for him. Issue there was he should have said no to Cheecho. If SJ wanted Heatley that bad... they would have altered the offer... or Heatley stayed in Ottawa.
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+1 #144 Johne 2011-07-12 13:02
http://twitter.com/JeffMarek - Andrew Cogliano traded to ANA for 2nd rd pick. No surprise after Belanger brought in. Does, however, bring RNH one step closer to making..
http://twitter.com/JeffMarek - ..the Oilers. It's believed the Oilers may be looking to part w/another centre
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0 #145 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-12 13:02
I think our top 6 will consist of Alfie, Spezza, Butler, Filatov, Michalek and Regin/Foligno.

Greening/Contra will be 3rd liners.
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+2 #146 Johne 2011-07-12 13:04
@ImNotJoJo

Thats my thought as well, but that all revolves around Filatov making the team.
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+1 #147 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 13:05
Quoting ImNotJoJo:
I think our top 6 will consist of Alfie, Spezza, Butler, Filatov, Michalek and Regin/Foligno.

Greening/Condra won't make the cut, IMO.



This is a top 6 that won't make me hurl.. I would love to find a decent 2C though.
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+2 #148 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-12 13:06
Johne:

The guy is pure raw talent. Hadn't skated in 3 1/2 months when I saw him at the dev. camp and he still stood out as the best forward (even with borrowed equipment)! I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't make this team.
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0 #149 Sandy 2011-07-12 13:07
Quoting Captain Alfie:
@Jab
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.


Did you not watch the team after the trade deadline with Anderson in net... and Butler & Greening playing on Spezza's wings? Spezza was one of the top point getters down the stretch playing with those 2 rookies. They just clicked..
But yeah it's that old... they have nothing to play for crap. The teams they played against for the most part DID have something to play for.
The games were competitive... better than Oct - Jan that's for sure.
They will experiment in pre-season with the lineups.
The pre-season this year should be about systems & line combinations... not wasting 8 or 9 games in having 50 players in and out of the lineup. Start with your expected line-up + a couple extra players... rest go to Bingo.
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+7 #150 SensChirp 2011-07-12 13:10
Filatov is absolutely going to make the team.
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-1 #151 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 13:10
@Sandy, plz read this.

Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.




So a team that went 15-10-2 in their last 27 makes u puke ... good to know


Yeah and it was all Foligno , Greening, and Condra, the superstars! wow.
Give the credit where it is due Jabs.. Spezza, Karlsson, Butler, and Andswer.
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-2 #152 Sandy 2011-07-12 13:10
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Not if Foligno, Condra, and Greening are consistantly in the top 6!



Okay, barring a trade, who are your top 6 players to play in the Sens lineup next season?
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-1 #153 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 13:12
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Not if Foligno, Condra, and Greening are consistantly in the top 6!



Okay, barring a trade, who are your top 6 players to play in the Sens lineup next season?


Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Butler, Filatov and the 2C is open because we don't have one.
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+2 #154 Johne 2011-07-12 13:14
Just because Greening and Condra were late round picks and never slated for top 6 play doesn't mean that they can't continue to progress their game and end up in a top 6 role. I guess Alfy should of never played in the top 6 either *cough cough* have a bit of an open mind with our prospects.
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0 #155 Sandy 2011-07-12 13:16
Quoting Captain Alfie:
@Sandy, plz read this.

Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Yeah we did so well last year. It's the thought of another year like last year without any improvement that is going to make me puke. The end.




So a team that went 15-10-2 in their last 27 makes u puke ... good to know


Yeah and it was all Foligno , Greening, and Condra, the superstars! wow.
Give the credit where it is due Jabs.. Spezza, Karlsson, Butler, and Andswer.



I did read this. I agree that goaltending was a big part of the stretch play. What would have been - had Anderson been in at start of October & Spezza did not get injured. Sens would have been in a big fight for the playoffs.
But what I said, down the stretch those young guys you don't like played very well for ROOKIES (Butler, Greening, Condra). Give them a chance before trashing too much.
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+1 #156 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 13:17
Quoting Johne:
Just because Greening and Condra were late round picks and never slated for top 6 play doesn't mean that they can't continue to progress their game and end up in a top 6 role. I guess Alfy should of never played in the top 6 either *cough cough* have a bit of an open mind with our prospects.


I agree, they could turn out but who knows.. I hope so but at this point in time I stick with my top 6. I beleive Alfie made an immediate impact in the NHL if I am not mistaken.. He won the Calder.
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-2 #157 Sensnation 2011-07-12 13:20
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Not if Foligno, Condra, and Greening are consistantly in the top 6!



Okay, barring a trade, who are your top 6 players to play in the Sens lineup next season?


Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Butler, Filatov and the 2C is open because we don't have one.


That is the same thing I have been saying for weeks and falls right into Johne & I's Foligno, Greening, Condra discussion. Currently Foligno/Regin have the inside track on that 2C job for this coming season, but the coach will definitely toss around several lineups and see what sticks.
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0 #158 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 13:31
Quoting JABSmilez:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
Not if Foligno, Condra, and Greening are consistantly in the top 6!



Okay, barring a trade, who are your top 6 players to play in the Sens lineup next season?


Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Butler, Filatov and the 2C is open because we don't have one.


That is the same thing I have been saying for weeks and falls right into Johne & I's Foligno, Greening, Condra discussion. Currently Foligno/Regin have the inside track on that 2C job for this coming season, but the coach will definitely toss around several lineups and see what sticks.


Looking back the scenaro that involved Foligno on the top line and Greening and Condra on the 2nd line is what was going to make me puke.. not my top 6 sans a 2C. I can live with not having a good 2 C.
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+1 #159 boom 2011-07-12 13:38
has anyone else noticed that none of us seem to be giving DaCosta any chance of being the 2nd line center? I'm not being argumentive, because I include myself in this.
I remember when Ottawa signed him, we were all anxious to see him in a few games, and when Clouston actually gave him some shifts, he did look promising, but he seems to have fallen off of our collective rader, through no real fault of his own. Just seems odd to me. Perhaps it's because we're all focused on the players we just drafted?
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+2 #160 Johne 2011-07-12 13:49
@boom

He would have to have a more than impressive camp to make that jump and would have to beat out Regin/Foligno for the job and I don't see that happening but in all fairness he didn't get much of a chance to make an impression. I saw a few flashes of a NHL player, but I really think he needs some time in Bingo.
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+1 #161 SensChirp 2011-07-12 13:50
It's a great point boom. I really hope people aren't basing their opinion of Da Costa entirely on what he showed at the end of the year. Clouston really didn't give him much of a shot.

I fully expect him to come to camp and push for that spot.
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-1 #162 Sensnation 2011-07-12 13:50
Quoting boom:
...
I remember when Ottawa signed him, we were all anxious to see him in a few games, and when Clouston actually gave hime some shofts, he did look promising, but he seems to have fallen off of our collective rader, through no real fault of his own. Just seems odd to me. Perhaps it's because we're all focused on the players we just drafted?


Very true, I think we're getting a bit caught up in the hype that's been surrounding other players, especially Filatov and Zibanejad, however Da Costa hasn't quite excited us as much as expected so far. I know I personally expected to hear more from him in the dev camp that was held, and to me BM coming out and saying Zibanejad has an outside shot this year, but not mentioning much on Da Costa's chance (at least not that I saw) really starts to temper expectations going forward. The Sens need 1 of Regin, Foligno, Da Costa or Zibanejad to step up to 2nd line C this year.
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+1 #163 boom 2011-07-12 13:51
Quoting Johne:
@boom

He would have to have a more than impressive camp to make that jump and would have to beat out Regin/Foligno for the job and I don't see that happening but in all fairness he didn't get much of a chance to make an impression. I saw a few flashes of a NHL player, but I really think he needs some time in Bingo.

Yeah, I suppose, but I hope he gets a legitimate shot at it.
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0 #164 Sandy 2011-07-12 13:51
Quoting boom:
has anyone else noticed that none of us seem to be giving DaCosta any chance of being the 2nd line center? I'm not being argumentive, because I include myself in this.
I remember when Ottawa signed him, we were all anxious to see him in a few games, and when Clouston actually gave him some shifts, he did look promising, but he seems to have fallen off of our collective rader, through no real fault of his own. Just seems odd to me. Perhaps it's because we're all focused on the players we just drafted?


What may give him an edge is he stayed in Ottawa to work out at SBP with the other Sens players that hung around town. With the proper training techniques.. we shall see how improved him may be... but I agree with your take.. we don't talk about him too much. Did Clouston give him a real shot playing with skilled offensive players? I can't remember who mostly his linemates were.. can anyone remind me?
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0 #165 Captain Alfie 2011-07-12 13:56
One thing is very clear and that is our 2nd line centre is a huge question mark right now. It could be Foligno or Regin but they are not proven top 6 material. It could also be a wild card like DaCosta who could surprise us or even Zibanejad if he is ready. Should be interesting.
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0 #166 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-07-12 13:57
Okay, barring a trade, who are your top 6 players to play in the Sens lineup next season?

Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Butler, Filatov and the 2C is open because we don't have one.

That is the same thing I have been saying for weeks and falls right into Johne & I's Foligno, Greening, Condra discussion. Currently Foligno/Regin have the inside track on that 2C job for this coming season, but the coach will definitely toss around several lineups and see what sticks.

I agree with JABS,

Both Foligno and Regin, who have had some success along with some slumps, are now more mature,and could become 2nd
line Centres. Teaming them with Michalek and Alfredsson
will help them develop greatly. Murray did not get a top sniper with Spezza, and did not get a top Centre for line 2 ! Personally, I think Peter Regin will Centre Line 2 !!
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+1 #167 Johne 2011-07-12 13:57
I think Da Costa was on the 3rd/4th line, I remember being very frustrated with his shifts and ice time.
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0 #168 boom 2011-07-12 14:01
@Sandy

I know, at one point, he (DaCosta) was playing with Lessard (can't recall who the other winger was) but when he got the odd shift with an offensive line he looked alot better.
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0 #169 Johne 2011-07-12 14:04
@boom

was probably Wick, poor guy never had a shot playing w/ Lessard.
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+1 #170 Kratos83 2011-07-12 14:14
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Captain Alfie:
So you are an expert?

Gonna have to give you the extra two minutes for instigating on this one :)


post of the day SC, +1 for the sense of humour
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-1 #171 LordAlfie11 2011-07-12 14:30
Gentlemen,

I was, and still am a proponent of building through the draft. But the more research I do, the more I see examples of teams who have tried and failed at this method. We all cling to the dream that the Sens will emulate the Blackhawks or Penguins, but then on the other end of the spectrum there are the Islanders, Blue Jackets, Coyotes, Wild, Thrashers and Blues who have consistently picked in the top of the draft with little to no success. Can someone calm my nerves and explain to me while the Sens will be different than those failures? Also, can someone convince me that one or two drafts of high picks will make our team not only a playoff team, but a Stanley Cup contender?
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0 #172 Sandy 2011-07-12 14:41
Quoting boom:
@Sandy

I know, at one point, he (DaCosta) was playing with Lessard (can't recall who the other winger was) but when he got the odd shift with an offensive line he looked alot better.


So an offensive gifted player was on the 4th line with a goon. How can he prove anything when he has nothing to play with? I certainly hope McLean gives him a chance with better players. How can they really judge his NHL skills if he is not put into a position to succeed.

Probably will be Regin or DaCosta fighting for the 2C spot. Not ideal as far as experience.. but they will learn as they go... that's what a re-build is all about.

Do you think that Zibby gets a contract before the 15th? or is their intention to let him go back to Sweden to finish his contract?
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+1 #173 ImNotJoJo 2011-07-12 14:41
Quoting LordAlfie11:
Gentlemen,

I was, and still am a proponent of building through the draft. But the more research I do, the more I see examples of teams who have tried and failed at this method. We all cling to the dream that the Sens will emulate the Blackhawks or Penguins, but then on the other end of the spectrum there are the Islanders, Blue Jackets, Coyotes, Wild, Thrashers and Blues who have consistently picked in the top of the draft with little to no success. Can someone calm my nerves and explain to me while the Sens will be different than those failures? Also, can someone convince me that one or two drafts of high picks will make our team not only a playoff team, but a Stanley Cup contender?

What do the Islanders, Blue Jackets, Coyotes, Thrashers and Blues all have in common?? They constantly spend to the cap basement...
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+1 #174 VanSensFan 2011-07-12 14:53
Quoting King BM:
Quoting SensChirp:
@RUSHRLZ

Agreed. Anything that has been changed is temporary while we try to isolate the problem. Optimistic we can have things back to normal either today or tomorrow.


I honestly thought the Gov. restricted access to Senschirp i was gonna get mad and go see my boss


Glad to see our tax dollars going to good use!
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0 #175 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-07-12 15:17
Chirp, somebody over on hf is saying Zibanejad is to be signed either today or tomorrow but the contract is done, have you heard anything regarding this?
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+2 #176 Tookie 2011-07-12 15:36
Quoting SensChirp:
It's a great point boom. I really hope people aren't basing their opinion of Da Costa entirely on what he showed at the end of the year. Clouston really didn't give him much of a shot.

I fully expect him to come to camp and push for that spot.


Im not, Im basing my opinion on the Dev camp where he was pretty much invisible...

He will need a great camp to make that 2C, but Im willing to go on record saying he's starting in Bingo.
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+1 #177 Tookie 2011-07-12 15:39
Quoting Sensational Sens Fan:
Chirp, somebody over on hf is saying Zibanejad is to be signed either today or tomorrow but the contract is done, have you heard anything regarding this?



Would be stupid to not let him go to SEL for another year and get better. The guy is a beast but why rush him?
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0 #178 boom 2011-07-12 15:52
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Sensational Sens Fan:
Chirp, somebody over on hf is saying Zibanejad is to be signed either today or tomorrow but the contract is done, have you heard anything regarding this?



Would be stupid to not let him go to SEL for another year and get better. The guy is a beast but why rush him?

Agreed, as much as we are in dire need of a 2nd line center, I think it would be better to see if anyone on their current roster can fill that spot, at least for this year. We are not a playoff team anyways, so I think there's little risk in doing this. Who knows, one of them might surprise and maybe provide us with trade bait at the deadline. I think there's a good chance that Zibanejad is the long term answer but there's no hurry.
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+1 #179 Round Leaf 2011-07-12 15:57
@ Tookie

Zibanejad has already played a year against men in the SEL, so its not like he's just coming out of junior. Karlsson played his first year in the SEL after he was drafted and then made the team the next year after that despite being undersized and playing for a team that still had playoff aspirations.

Zibanejad would be the best option but only if he really is ready and doesn't have a major hole in his game. He wouldn't be coming in with us expecting the world from him, and he wouldn't be playing 7-8 minutes a night because we have a vacant second line center position available.
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+1 #180 Floridasensfan 2011-07-12 16:20
I have to laugh at myself included to say Regin is a second line center, he had less goals than any forward last year and a few D even passed him, Kuba if he had one more goal would have tied Regin in points and goals.
I know apples and oranges but seriously.
Foligno was way better.

Regin is waiver material if he does not step up.
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+1 #181 SensChirp 2011-07-12 16:29
Haven't heard anything concrete on Zibanejad but I fully expect something to get done before that Friday deadline. I'll ask around though and see if anyone knows for sure.
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-2 #182 TheTyrantWee 2011-07-12 17:03
Oh LordAlfie11. you sir are a newb at rsearch :).

There is a massive difference between multiple picks at 1st, 2nd, even 3rd overall compared to picking 4th-10th on a regular basis. The Sens were extremely lucky this year that players one through eight will probably have similar career trajectories. That's not something which happens very often.

If you're going to build through the draft the optimal strategy is to finish dead last. That is the same reason why me and Tookie share the opinion that Zibanejad should not be on the big team this year. We want to be as bad as possible if we're not competing for a Stanley Cup. That's how you acquire the key assets needed to build a team that contends for the big prize.
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+2 #183 TheTyrantWee 2011-07-12 17:07
Note that I'll be pleasantly surprised if Filatov shines, Butler improves, Regin Rebounds, and Alfie is healthy. I'll be even more surprised if Anderson is able to stand on his head most every night. If all that happens the Sens could probably challenge for 8th in the East. Honestly though I'm not banking on it all happening or frankly even half of it. I'm expecting a bottom five finish with the roster we're going to put on the ice. They can prove me wrong and that's fine but finishing dead last and getting Yak whilst developing the young talent we are acquiring isn't a bad consolation prize.
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+1 #184 Round Leaf 2011-07-12 17:19
@ TheTyrantWee

If finishing dead last 3-4 years in a row is so important to building a successful franchise, how come it didn't work out for us the first time we did it in the early 90's? How come recent cup winning teams include Detroit and Boston who haven't finished bottom 5 in the league in the last decade?

Throwing a season to get the top pick is a horrible idea because telling all those young players on our team who've worked their asses off to get drafted and make the team to lose on purpose is basically a slap in the face and is guaranteed to impede their development.

I think we will in all likelihood get a good pick next year, but the only way its first overall is if we trade up, win the lottery or if Anderson gets injured.
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+1 #185 SNOOPY SENIOR 2011-07-12 17:25
Quoting TheTyrantWee:
Note that I'll be pleasantly surprised if Filatov shines, Butler improves, Regin Rebounds, and Alfie is healthy. I'll be even more surprised if Anderson is able to stand on his head most every night. If all that happens the Sens could probably challenge for 8th in the East. Honestly though I'm not banking on it all happening or frankly even half of it. I'm expecting a bottom five finish with the roster we're going to put on the ice. They can prove me wrong and that's fine but finishing dead last and getting Yak whilst developing the young talent we are acquiring isn't a bad consolation prize.


Season has not even started, and you are once again suggesting that we tank to get best picks.

Hope the Sens have a surprising season, and play even better than their last 27 games at end of last year.

At the rate you and Tookie are going, we will never become a top contender!
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+1 #186 Johne 2011-07-12 17:27
Last year was a fluke, no way in hell should that team be in the bottom 5 of the league in goals for, I blame a lot of that on Clouston and lack of confidence in the goaltender. I really can't expect any of the players from last year to have a repeat year as far as production goes. I would actually expect the season to be a little more like the 2009-10 season where we made the playoffs and actually looked a wee bit dangerous as an underdog vs the defending champions Pittsburgh. Kovalevs and Michaleks injuries put the nail in the coffin for that series. I think this team we have now is every bit as good if not better than that team, raise your expectations.
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+2 #187 SlickRick 2011-07-12 17:36
I think you have your new poll question chirp - Who do think will be Sens 2nd line Center?
Da Costa
Regin
Zib
Foligno
Other...you get the idea
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0 #188 SensChirp 2011-07-12 17:52
Yea I miss being able to do polls. I'm gonna ask and see how we add that feature.
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+1 #189 TheTyrantWee 2011-07-12 17:56
@Round Leaf

Nobody said anything about the organization throwing the season. Perhaps you should learn to read before writing irrelevant paragraphs. I said I expect the Senators are unlikely to contend for the big prize. Thus the management of the organization should set the roster with this in mind. Not rushing players like Zibanejad and Silfverberg into the lineup. That way we finish only as high as the development of our young players allows - just like Edmonton.

There is a reason the Ottawa Senators didn't go out and blow their wad on free agents. The team is biding its time before looking to transfer over to win now mode. This is the time for collecting assets through the draft and building our youth.

I didn't say building through the draft was the only way. I said it's the best and fastest way to build an elite team. Top end draft talent does that. Get the 1st overall 3-4 times in a row and you have an elite core to build around. Solid fact.
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-1 #190 TheTyrantWee 2011-07-12 17:59
Predicting where I think the Senators will finish is as simple as looking at other teams rosters and ranking how Ottawa's matches up. We're one of the weakest teams whether your smart enough to realize it or not is your own problem. I can evaluate depth from a rational perspective. You want to be a fanboy and cross your fingers for the playoffs. It takes all types. I'll be happy if they surprise and play really well - I just don't think it's that likely to happen and a lot of things have to go right for it to happen. Simple as that.
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0 #191 Johne 2011-07-12 18:16
http://twitter.com/Eklund - Cheechoo to Blues per strickland....U pdate coming up

lol
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0 #192 SensChirp 2011-07-12 18:17
Quoting Johne:
http://twitter.com/Eklund - Cheechoo to Blues per strickland....Update coming up

lol

Hope he gets a shot with the Blues. Always had a soft spot for Cheechoo.
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+1 #193 Johne 2011-07-12 18:18
@Tyrant

That's all according to paper and we all know that whats on paper rarely matches up with what actually happens. I don't think we're contenders, I don't think anyone does. But I do think we're competitive and full of youth, so expect the unexpected.
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-1 #194 Round Leaf 2011-07-12 18:21
@TheTyrantWee

That's why I said that the only way we get the first overall pick is if we win the lottery, trade up, or if Anderson gets hurt. I'm not arguing that we are a playoff team, but I KNOW that we aren't the worst team in the league. It would take a series of disasters on an off the ice and even more injuries than last year for us to do worse than Florida, NYI, Colorado etc. We beat out 4 other teams in a year where everything went wrong.

Drafting top 3 year in and year out means squat if your development staff is crap or if the player has a bad attitude or work ethic. Not knocking Yakupov, but for every Datsyuk, Ovechkin and Malkin, there's a Yashin.

I agree that building through the draft is necessary, but it doesn't need to be with the first 3 picks. Our scouts know their stuff. Not only are they very good at identifying current talent, but they are even better at identifying potential (Karlsson, Rundblad, Lehner)
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0 #195 Round Leaf 2011-07-12 18:26
btw... I wasn't insinuating that our development staff is crap.
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0 #196 Floridasensfan 2011-07-12 19:32
The last time we made the playoffs we had Fisher Kelly Ruttu Campoli Eliott Glascal Kovy.

I will grant you teams have got better since but do you really think we have got worse.

Filatov Butler Petersson Foligno Greening Condra Smith Rundblad Cowan Gonchar Konopka Anderson Lehner

I know Lehner is AHL but if we make playoffs he comes up.

It is going to be a long summer.
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-1 #197 Sandy 2011-07-12 19:54
Quoting Round Leaf:
@ TheTyrantWee

If finishing dead last 3-4 years in a row is so important to building a successful franchise, how come it didn't work out for us the first time we did it in the early 90's? How come recent cup winning teams include Detroit and Boston who haven't finished bottom 5 in the league in the last decade?

Throwing a season to get the top pick is a horrible idea because telling all those young players on our team who've worked their asses off to get drafted and make the team to lose on purpose is basically a slap in the face and is guaranteed to impede their development.

I think we will in all likelihood get a good pick next year, but the only way its first overall is if we trade up, win the lottery or if Anderson gets injured.


Detroit is an exception to everything. Boston gets high picks from Toronto.
How do you think the Avs got Landeskog.. they tanked by bringing in a sieve.
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0 #198 Sandy 2011-07-12 20:00
We don't know how the season will play out yet. That's why the games are played. Injuries on any team can make or break a season. That Spezza injury hurt the Sens in a big way since they won only 1 of 17 games (I believe) he was out of the lineup. Add to that bad goaltending of Elliott... and you have a disaster.

I think if Zibby did not have that 1 yr contract left in the SEL he would be Bingo bound this year.

He will not learn the North American game by playing on larger ice in the SEL. Still a good league though... but would have been better in Bingo. But it is what it is.
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-1 #199 Round Leaf 2011-07-12 20:00
Quoting Sandy:


Detroit is an exception to everything. Boston gets high picks from Toronto.
How do you think the Avs got Landeskog.. they tanked by bringing in a sieve.


Valid argument. I don't think you can say that Seguin was anything more than a depth piece in Boston's cup run though.
You could say the same thing for Vancouver though... the last time they picked top 5 was for the Sedins I think.

No question that the Avs purposefully tanked to get Landeskog. It remains to be seen how that works out for them though.
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-1 #200 sben 2011-07-12 20:22
I think that ottawa should sign john madden.He wont cost much but he has chicago cup experience and could help ottawas players developing etc. I know hes not a top 6 forward but hes better than foligno or regin. this is if ottawa is desperate I know its pretty early to say that but I just had to get this comment out.
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0 #201 Johne 2011-07-12 21:49
I would much rather take Neil and make him our 2nd line center than bring in another vet that has failed time after time again. We're not halfassing this youth moment.
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0 #202 HamadXVagetaXAlfie 2011-07-13 02:14
Now there is Bill Sweatt in Toronto and there is another Sweatt here lol. Ontario Hockey is becoming Sweatty
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0 #203 Canadianhero 2011-07-13 05:27
DaCosta is much better than people think. I think we should give him a chance starting on the 2nd line in center. He was a beast at development camp. Better than everyone that was there as far as im concerned, with exception to Filiatov. He is hungry, scored a goal against Canada, and is much better than Regin and Foligno hands down.
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0 #204 Diton B 2011-07-13 07:05
Not really hockey news but sens related.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/juniorhockey/news?slug=ottcit-ca-5085456
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+1 #205 383 2011-07-13 08:06
I love how everyone, including our own fans are underestimating us and that is fine by me.

Last year we sucked for two reasons, Brian Elliot and Spezza getting injured.

We went 1 in 17, 1 in 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We will not do that this year.

I think this team is going to surprise a lot of people this year. Spezza is gonna take this team and run with it.

Anderson is better than any goalie we've had in a number of years.

Get ready sens fans, we're not gonna be as bad as you think.
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0 #206 Johne 2011-07-13 08:24
Amen @383

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rroTt8nQO1w

RAISE YOUR STANDARDS

GO SENS GO!
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0 #207 Sandy 2011-07-13 14:27
Quoting HamadXVagetaXAlfie:
Now there is Bill Sweatt in Toronto and there is another Sweatt here lol. Ontario Hockey is becoming Sweatty


Bill Sweatt is in Vancouver, is he not?
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0 #208 sben 2011-07-13 16:16
for all you stupid heads (including senschirp[no offense]) Anderson is about as good as a glorified Elliot (if not worse) look at the end of last season he started getting .800 - .899. the first 7 games or so were just the new team hype that new players get I tell you Ottawa will have to rely on Auld allot more than you think.
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0 #209 Wimpy 2011-08-12 11:45
Full of salient points. Don't stop believing or witrnig!
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