For Bryan Murray, it appears as though the only "must address" area is in goal. The club has Craig Anderson penciled in for 60+ games next season so Ottawa will be looking for a capable back up that can play between 15-20 games and give the team some solid minutes.
There are a handful of guys that will hit the market in a couple days that could fill that role. One name that comes up time and time again is Patrick Lalime. A former fan favourite in Ottawa, Lalime is a UFA to be and will be looking for work starting this weekend. Rumours suggest he has recently bought a house in the Ottawa area and has let it be known that he would love to close out his career in Ottawa.
But would the Sens be interested?
Lalime has declined significantly the past few seasons and has started just 23 games over the past two years in Buffalo. With that said, Lalime is known to be a fantastic teammate and would be a good guy to have warming the bench behind Anderson.
He would also likely sign for something close to the league minimum which is another obvious plus. What do you think? Would you welcome Lalime back to Ottawa?
A quick update from Sens Development Camp as forward Nikita Filatov has arrived and is expected to take the ice this afternoon. The players will skate at the SensPlex from 1:30-3:00 PM today and have a scrimmage scheduled for tomorrow night.
That event is open to seasons ticket holders.
If you don't have a chance to make it out to the Development Camp, you can meet the prospects in a video now featured under the highlight tab on the home page.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Ottawa/2011/06/14/18279221.html
So what he bought a house in Ottawa? I'm sure he'd love to live anywhere rather than Buffalo. He's also Quebecois and lived here for a while, so it's natural.
Greiss would be great, but he's an RFA in San Jose and I think despite both Niemi and Niittymaki being signed there, they still see him as part of their future plans.
If he is available, I'd agree the Sens should take a look.
He....He was a fan favourite? My memory must be bad cause I just remember him choking Luongo style and getting run out of town haha...I'd pass on Lalime...
It's already been reported that Drury won't play next season, and more than likely his career is over...
I'll be at the practice today, will let all know how Filatov looks. Will also be at the scrimmage tomorrow night, will let all know who stands out and who looks out of place. :)
No Lalime.
Practices are open, but the scrimmage is priority seating for season ticket holders, and if there are seats left I believe they will give them out to the general public afterwards.
Anyone know?
As for Drury, I think he is a great team guy and all, but I wouldn't want Ottawa to even sniff at him. For 2-3 million, the price is still too high for his numbers. 89 points in 264 games with the Rangers over 4 seasons...No thanks.
Last STH event I went to, there was a booth where you just gave your name (possibly ID too, can't remember). I am going too. I doubt they will be too concerned. It's a free prospect game at the Sensplex.
Yeah true... LOL Thanks!
I know this will not be a popular opinion but I do not want anyone in the way of lehner playing.
His ability to play the goaltending position is what's wrong with him.
Still say Greiss or Harding.
Living in San Jose for the past 5 years I have had the chance to see Greiss play and he is NOT who we want as a backup. He was never very good when he did get the chance to play behind Nabokov.
Also, to those suggest he is in San Jose's long term plans? You are extremely wrong. They could have had him backup Niemi this year and retain his backup position yet decided to go with journeyman Nittymaki. They lent him to a German team this past season and I do not see him being resigned by the Sharks.
So Thomas Greiss should absolutely not be an option.
Leave the past in the past. Get a bonafide backup (not a washed up starter or young guy with potential) and only play him when Anderson really needs the rest (or call up Lehner - great idea).
no thanks patty. if we want a back up to throw in for tanking purposes at the end of next year, they should just bring back elliot..
my vote is Auld. good team guy, knows the city and players would probably cost 1 million and in my opinion would of the better career backups.
Further on this, why not someone like Jose Theodore? He's put up good numbers in his last 3 gigs.
no Rob it's not just you, I'd say most of us are pretty excited the kid is in town. someone please keep those fucktards brennan and garrioch away from him and we'll be just fine...
funny how brennan says the sens will be soft because of all the swedes, then says they should have taken couterier only to follow it up by saying that zibanijad is the grittier player.
good god they are awful.
yes agreed,
and also showing the team, that he is prepared to work to earn his spot... I really think that he was given a very tough time in Columbus, which gave him the bad attitude that has stuck with him. All things I have seen about this kid, is that he really is not like most other Russians, he is fluent in English, has had a taste of KHL, but really wants to prove he can make it big in the NHL...very pumped about seeing him alongside Spezz!
Not sure the contractual ramifications of Lehner bouncing back and forth as well.
2- I don't think it would be a good idea to have Lehner bounce around from AHL to NHL and back again. He needs the full years down in the AHL to benefit him more.
3- I like the idea of Auld coming back to warm the bench.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Lalime - check out his playoff numbers - GAA under 2 for all but the first year.
For the record I'm a huge Sens fan living in Toronto, so I got it almost as bad as Lalime did.
These are the times I got from the Ticket office...
June 30
SSO scrimmage/town hall/meet and greet
6:45pm – 7:00pm – warm-up
7:00pm – 8:00pm – scrimmage (Scotiabank Rink – BSP)
8:00pm – 8:30pm – town hall (Fieldhouse)
8:30pm – 9:00pm – meet and greet with players (fieldhouse)
June 30th apparently is only open to Season Ticket Holders...
1:30pm – 3:30pm: June 28, 29, 30, July 2, 3
9:30am – 11:30am: July 1, 4
These are all open to the public...
June 30th apparently is only open to Season Ticket Holders...
The Sens site says the scrimmage is open to the public, but the meet and greet is for Season Ticket Holders only:
- After last summer’s inaugural evening scrimmage (5-on-5), the event will once again be featured at this year’s camp on Thursday, June 30, at 7 p.m. at the Bell Sensplex. The scrimmage will be followed by a meet and greet reception with Senators season-seat holders in the fieldhouse on the lower level of the Sensplex.
- All on-ice workouts, including the team scrimmage and 3-on-3 tournament, are open to the public
http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=567433
Cam Barker was not on the cup winning Hawks team. He was traded a few months prior. I was a really big fan, but I think he may be done. At $3M, probably not worth the risk. Man, Minnesota really blew it with that trade... Nick Leddy? A homegrown 1st rounder... Bad move.
Ah ok, thanks for that!
It is interesting that his tenure he is so often referred to as just letting in a couple of bad goals in the playoffs. He was bad in his last year or two, with a bad record and let in so many goals on the first few shots of the game it was a running joke. He is a good guy but his career is pretty much done. If Anderson is injured for a stretch I wouldn't trust the Lalime from a few years ago to fill in, and sure would not now.
Ottawa gave Lalime his biggest contract, and he has been paid millions over the years. The Sens have no obligation here and it isn't in the teams best interest to sign him now.
Good guy, yes. Good goalie, no
Garon, Conklin, Boucher/ Leighton/bobrov sky, Auld, etc are better options.
Runblad (L) Gonchar (R)
Kaberle (L) Karlsson (R)
Philips (L) Cowen (R)
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=1196&id=119952
Really wish Silfverberg would play in NA next season >:(
You know who else had good numbers?? Patrick Roy and Grant Fuhr. It doesn't mean they're still game ready though.. Past is the past.
Big no on Lalime. Big, big no.
And can someone explain why McElhinney is not an option? As far as I can see, he did well here, costs close to the league minimum, and is no better or worse than most goalies that are available?
I guess I am just as concerned about a cohesive and hard working dressing room than I am with an impact 2nd goalie.
I really don't like the Kaberle idea. If they were going to go for another D (which I don't think they should), they should go for Ehrhoff because he prob won't sign with the Islanders. That is unless they offer him a ridiculous amount of money.
"Oh helllllllllllll lllllllls no."
SILENCE this idea RIGHT NOW.
I'm not actually in favour of a return, he's definitely past his prime and there are many better candidates. I just don't understand how what he did during his time here is regarded with such scorn. He played pretty well, playoffs included.
What about giving Mike Brodeur a shot!?
First thing I'd do on D is get rid of Lee + Kuba and bring another guy in to fill the last spot..however easier said then done..If a team like Florida's looking to take salary I'd be so happy to get rid of these guys and bring in a guy like Barker or Ehrhoff, or any other experienced dman anyway..
Ehrhoff's perceived as a defensive weakness sure he can put up points thats for sure but i wouldnt mind watching kabby stick it to the leafs by feeding one timers to Karlsson all night long..
Nice gun humor dumbass. What's the matter still haven't recovered from those Photoshopped beach balls going in past Lalime pictures?
He did not do well here or anywhere else he has played in the NHL. He is not a NHL calibre goaltender and that will be reflected in the fact that no-one will sign him to a one way deal this summer. No, to Lalime as well. I'd go for Harding or Hedberg.
it is what it is. we have 3 veteran defensman that we are saddled with in kuba, gonchar and phillips.
simply no room to add anyone.
Let Karlsson, Rundblad, Cowen, Lee and the Bingo-bound guys continue to develop while Phillips and Gonchar, um, age.
No way we buy out Kuba when we're trying to save actual money for when we need it (a few years down the road). If someone will take Kuba off our hands that's great - but won't happen until the deadline if at all.
Unless we get a legit upgrade opportunity (i.e. a real stud that allows us to let another guy go) we don't need to add on D.
that being said, expect the islanders to be a much better team this year. i think they make the playoffs.
He has only been a negative in the regular season one season (his last with the sharks). He is only percieved as a major defensive weakness by most because of the series with chi and bos these playoffs, giving him a -13 for the postseason this year.
I know Kaberle is better defensively but Kabs is likely to get paid about 1 mil more per year too (not like it is a big issue for us, but still). I know you can't just look at stats because there is a huge diff between sharks/van and tor. It's actually pretty impressive that kabs is a positive +/- for his career. I'm just going by what I see out of the play of Ehrhoff and I like his game.
Old LaLime is better than McBackup or Suitcase Alex Auld ?
So is your spelling.
Couturier* Zibanejad*
Keep up the good work though!!!
I'm sure they do something like that. I'm thinking more of a 7 year contract though.
Quoting Hax:
I completely agree with you Hax. I don't think we should even be looking at adding a D unless we can move Kuba in the deal (which won't happen). I am of the same mindset about not buying him out either. I think it is better to just let him play until the deadline or until his contract is up.
Did you guys get an e-mail or something about this? I'm a STH as well, but haven't heard anything.
No surprise there I suppose.
I'm not actually in favour of a return, he's definitely past his prime and there are many better candidates. I just don't understand how what he did during his time here is regarded with such scorn. He played pretty well, playoffs included.
To be fair, I'm not a Lalime hater. He was the victim of a whole generation of Ottawa teams that never had the confidence and swagger to win when it counted. But definitely time to move on, and he should probably quit while he's ahead...
7pm to 8pm!
Gonna be sweet!
Every time a shot came from afar... I would close my eyes and pray.
All in all though... he would come cheap, would provide 'decent' goaltending and wouldn't challenge McLean.
If nothing else comes up, I'm game.
He did not do well here or anywhere else he has played in the NHL. He is not a NHL calibre goaltender and that will be reflected in the fact that no-one will sign him to a one way deal this summer. No, to Lalime as well. I'd go for Harding or Hedberg.
I disagree on "he did not do well". That's just negative bandwagon statments. He had a .917 Save PCT and a 2.51 GAA playing with an AHL team in front of him. He stole us at least 2 of the 7 games he played. And frankly, 7 games is far from enough to judge an athlete..
Also, no one knows the status of Harding after his season ending injury last year (big risk), and Hedberg will 99% for sure re-sign in New Jersey.
What made you come to the conclusion Auld was terrible for the habs? He had a winning record and good numbers. More than what can be said for Elliot.
Why? so he can take a key roster spot away from one of Rundblad or Cowen, who are going to be core D-men for the next decade? so that we can trade him at the deadline for something like a 5th round pick?
It makes no sense at all to keep him around and impede the development of defensemen who deserve to be here. I'll agree that we won't find a deal for him unless Colorado/Florid a have a really, really hard time signing guys on Friday; but buying him out really doesn't hurt our cap situation: we're almost 20 million below the cap, not a big deal.
I don't hate the guy or anything but he's too old and too slow. I think that his departure is the best option for him and for the team.
Cowen is going to the AHL, he's clearly not rdy for the NHL level.
No. I think it's just public knowledge. The Sensplex holds approximately 3 people so I don't think it's something they are promoting too heavily.
Have you heard something we haven't? I know you didn't like what you saw yesterday in terms of speed but people have to realize that Cowen and a few others had massive seasons this year. Spokane went deep in the playoffs, he was on the WJC squad, he finished the year in the Calder Cup run. That has massive residual effects man! This camp is not favoring his rest and recovery...
All the more reasons to send him down, dont want to ruin th guys future just so he can make the big club. He's pretty much a lock to make our team, dont rush him. Its better for him to dominate the AHL for a year or 2.
...With what goalie?
This is real money we're talking about here. Melnyk is rich sure but he's not just going to throw money away on a buy out that we don't need to make.
You want the guy just to buy him out so you don't have to watch him play?
Ya I'm not surprised either. lets be honest, who WOULDNT want to play for Ottawa. We're Uber leet. and easily the most attractive team in the league. especially that Greening character.. what a specimen!
I think this is what we'll see opening night.
phillips, karlsson
gonchar, lee
rundblad, kuba
carkner
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the time the real camp starts in September. I think he's ready. He'll probably go up and down in the first half of the year, but I'd bet that he's here full time in the second half.
I agree, I've felt for a while Cowen could use a year in the AHL. I didn't think he would be on the big team next year and got roasted for it on these boards. He might start the season but I think eventually he will be sent back down. He's a big player, big defensemen tend to take long to develop. No point forcing things this season.
Would Cowen be eligible to go to the AHL now?
I know people see him as the next Zdeno Chara, but if he doesn't develop properly, he'll be the next Chris Phillips (not a bad thing, but it'd be nice if CP could contribute offensively)
I think two years in the AHL would be the best route for Cowen. First year to perfect his shutdown game. 2nd year to work on his offense and dominate. Following the exact same path he took in the CHL.
Then when he comes up to NHL he does the same thing. Rookie season: defense. Sophomore: step it up.
I think we should consider Jeff Drouin-Deslauri ers. The Goalie Guild thinks he would make a good back-up:
http://twitter.com/#!/TheGoalieGuild/status/85785324785119232
There's no harm in giving him a shot. It's not like the goal of next year is to make a serious run in the playoffs. Guys like Conklin and Auld are safe options; There is nothing wrong with those guys, but they are not going to get any better. Now is the time for the Sens to try to find some hidden gems since the team is rebuilding anyway.
That D would get rolled over. Phillips as your regular tough guy on D? I think those expecting Cowen in the AHL are wrong, and even beyond expectations I would sure hope that group of 6 is not our regular lineup.
Are we all forgetting he almost made the team out of camp last year?
I agree. The reality is he's still useful, just not here in Ottawa. I'm sure teams are kicking tires and someone will eventually pick him up. The hate for Kuba in this town has become slightly exagerated..
And its certainly not to our advantage if we want to trade him.
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On another note, Drury has just been bought out. That's money off the books in NY - still on the hook for 3.7 though.. ouch!
Glen Sather, meet Kuba. Kuba, meet Glen Sather....
Ok, after looking at his games log, I admit that he had a better first half than I thought. My opinion was tainted by the memory of those three games in February and March where he allowed 3 goals on 9 shots (Feb 24), 2 goals on 8 shots (Mar 24) and 2 goals on 9 shots (March 30), some good times
Provided he's not a liability defensively, I think there's very little risk in having him play in the NHL. He's not expected to put up points like KArlsson and Rundblad.
No and he wasnt supposed to be losing battles vs smaller guys at camp, I agree it was just one viewing but we'll see at the scrimmage how he does in game like tempo!
Maybe not a risk to Ottawa but there is a risk in setting back his development if he's up here too soon. It's not a slight on his play, he did a lot this year. It's just players of his type take a while to develop, and it might be better having him in a winning environment with less pressure where he can succeed and hone his skills rather than having him with Ottawa. Someone mentioned Chara above. If he ever turns into a poor man's Chara which would be amazing, he'll need time. It wasn't until Chara was around 24 that he really started to show what he would eventually be in the league.
Anyword on T.J. Oshie i'm reading him and the Blues are way off on contract talks ?
He does a really good job answering the same old questions...
The guy will do good.
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console
T.J. Oshie was tendered a qualifying offer so I'm guessing they are actually trying to find a compromise.
With the painstaking "dressing room purge" we've done the past two years, why in a billion years would we bring back one of the biggest problem players we ever had here? Sure maybe Ray has changed, and I do wish him all the best, but given his history in Ottawa? Not a CHANCE.
I don't think predicting Cowen & Rundblad in the NHL this season has to do with being impatient on their development, more just an assessment of their current skill level. They are both ready for that next stage and at this point I would rather start their NHL learning process while the rebuild is ongoing then bringing them in as rookies when we finally want to be contending again in 2-3 years. They both still have a very long way to go in their overall development, I just think it can start happening at the NHL level.
SO WHO COMES OUT?...that's the D we have, ideally you'd swap gonchar and or kuba for two way gritty defensmen but good luck with that.
Comments:
Rundblad is going to make the team next year. His skating is light years ahead of anyone at that camp, he's a very smooth stickhandler and looks VERY confident.
Filatov and Puempel were on another ice pad practicing with the power skating coach.
Puempel looks rusty. Not unexpected based on the time off he had from his injury, but he is going to need to work on his skating big time to get to the NHL.
Filatov. Holy crap. This guy is a BEAUTIFUL skater. He has unbelievable acceleration. He can turn on a dime. His stickhandling is on another planet. Best of all, he had a huge grin on his face the entire time he was on the ice. He and Puempel were getting worked hard, but he looked like he was loving every second of it. I know it's too early to say, but based on what I saw today, he'll be in the NHL next year and he'll do very well playing with Spezza.
Well if those are our 7 Carkner has to play more just to have the physical presence back there, but as I've been saying Kuba has to go. Even if just 1 of Cowen & Rundblad are ready, it's better to give Kuba's minutes to them and Lee.
So this should read in no way should Kuba be on the team come the regular season.
Is he going to be involved in a trade, or can he bought out/put on waivers?
They're not possibly considering keeping him around are they?
If he does not wow out of the gate he will be raked over the coals.
Rundblad does not see the AHL
Let's wait to see who gets moved
Carkner plays on the fourth line before Kuba gets bought out if you ask me.
Or maybe Gonchar or Carkner get moved - but there's not much chance of that either.
Especially Da Costa? I'm a firm believer that if Big Z doesn't make the roster and we can't sign a second line centre, he would be perfect. Has he been good?
Best case scenario, he performs alright and we get something decent at the trade deadline.
Worst case, he sucks ass and we deal with it for one more season.
Either way, this team is going to start looking scary in 2012-2013...
Just to clarify I'm not pushing buyout, but if it's the only way then sure. A buyout is CHEAPER then paying his full salary though, and we already have the players in place who would step in so it's not like he'd buy him out to then go sign another big contract D. At most the entry level contract replacing him added to his buyout cost would equal his actual salary.
There must be some team out there that would take him for free, so let's just part ways.
Da Costa looked better today than he did yesterday, but thus far he hasn't been the best centre in camp.
Looking at all the centres in camp, the best one in my opinion has been Zibanejad, followed by Caporusso and Hoffman.
Keep in mind though, development camp is a TOUGH barometer to measure these guys against. The clincher is to see how they do at training camp in September.
But if the Senators don't add a C through trade or free agency, I'd give Zibanejad a better than 50% chance of making the team IF he continues to progress through the summer.
As for standouts, the following players have looked very strong to me:
Dziurzynski
Hoffman
Noesen
Pageau
Petersson
Silfverberg
Stone
Zibanejad
Borowiecki
Cowen (he looked much better today than he did yesterday)
Rundblad
Yes bring your account number or season ticket holder card... whatever that is... account number will be fine. They said no prior registration is necessary.. but better to get there early.
There is also a meet and greet with the prospects.. you can get autographs etc... that is after a quick Q & A with some Senators staff... ie Randy Lee, etc.. That happens upstairs in the restaurant.
Went to it last year.. they also gave out free munchies.. but can't guarantee they will do it this year..
he's been a fan favorite before, but if we get him now it'll wreck that bond. he hasn't been good enough to back up in buffalo why would we think he'd be any better here?
time to move on.
Also .. the scrimmage tomorrow is at 7:00 I believe. Season ticket holders get seated by 6:30..
Kuba was one of the worst D-men in the league last year.
He brings nothing, too slow ( Kessel walks arournd him ) way too soft, doesn't even hit by accident. Worse is that he seems to have no work ethic, comes from almost a year off, and seems to have gotten worse as the year progressed.
based on our new players coming in
Cowen
Rundblad
Wiercoch
and even Gyrba are all better D then he is... he cannot make this team anymore...trade him, send him down, buy him out... but please do not force you fans to endure another year of his brutal play...Anderson will freak with him in front of him!!!
First off, buy-outs are useful when you need cap space. I don't think the cap is an issue for the Sens at this point. Second, this is 'real' money we're talking about and I don't think Eugene got to be a billionaire by handing out free money. Third, the cap hit (tho lessened when spread out) will extend into next year (at least) when we may actually want that extra space (remember the hits of Cheechoo et al?).
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Okay -- they moved it from the restaurant where they had it last year.... guess they don't want to feed us again.
I think the best thing is to keep him for now. Best case, he plays well (Kuba actually looked like an NHL player at one time) and we can trade him at the deadline for value. Worst case, he sucks, sits in the press box, and he walks at the end of the season and takes his ENTIRE over-priced cap hit with him.
I believe we can't send him down, as per his contract.
I hate watching him too but that's my two cents.
Are you kidding? NO...
Who backs up Anderson to me really doesn't matter, as Lehner will see some games as well
We have plenty of players with much to prove next year including Lee
Regin
Foligno
If they can improve to where they should be we will be a much better team next year
They sent out a premliminary one about a month or so ago.. and there was another one sent Jun 27th.. but I did not get that either. It's obvious that they missed some of us.
No need to pre-register... just show up with your account number.
Wouldn't Kovalev feel a bit humiliated by seeing this???
I like this. I would be cool with this system with either Lalime or Matt Spezza as the pine pony cowboy. Getting Lehner in some NHL games this season is key.
Might as well be talking about bringing back Kovy.
By the way, that last series against the Leafs was lost in game 4 when Lalime stood on his head.. but the rest of the team did not score. Sens should have won that in 6 games.. but that didn't happen.. and game 7 is still a nightmare.
Things That Could of Happen
Could of traded Kuba for Drury and a 1st. With Drury Retiring we could of just had a first! oh well
Why would i be kidding that would be the best 6 dman crew in the east hands down ..3 vets with 3 top dmen of the future
He said that if he continued to impress, add some weight an muscle, and strut his stuff in the exhibition games that he will be "looked at". Inspiring stuff, only that the Sens have until July 15th to sign him :I
Also here is the list of forwards that Murray should look at signing.
Athony Stewart
Erik Cole
Max Tallbot
Tomas Fleishman
Tim Connely
Ville Leino
Tom Pyatt
Marco Sturm
Let the young guys play and learn so in 2 years when we're ready to add a few parts they're as ready as they can be to their part.
Add a cheap backup that won't rock the boat and call it a day.
I guess this answers my question
http://www.silversevensens.com/2011/6/28/2248967/day-one-of-development-camp#storyjump
Please take the time to give this a quick read. It's from yesterday's.
Yes. Win, win, win situation.
Many of us dreamed the the Rangers might have been stupid enough to make this deal, but it's not like we had that chance and rejected it. So you can't really say we "Could have" unless I missed something...
I will laugh if he signs a contract for lower than the buyout the Rangers have to pay...
This could easily happen. His buyout for next year is 3.716 mil. I'm sure he will get less than that if he signs with anybody next year.
Nobody is going to sign him, the NYR said they couldn't even put him on LTIR until training camp starts, he's done, finished, kaput, never gonna play again, so long sally!
Tell me what you think?
Quoting Mat:
I mean could of happened if it was a real rumor lol and Drury announced Retirement according to TSN and TSN TWITTER
Flat out he cannot make this team this year, so if you have to pick your best 6 he will not make it.
Waive him, send him down if we can, or buy him out so we can have our best 6 d-men playing!
I cannot stand going to games to watch him, and have Lee, Rundblad, Cowen, Weicoch, or even Gyrba not playing for the Sens, and Kuba in the lineup
Michalek Spezza Butler
Filatov Zibanejad/(RFA or trade) Alfredsson
Foligno Regin C.Neil
Greening Z.Smith/Winches ter Condra
*Zibanejad is not a long shot IMO but if Murray picks up a top 6 F (Centre or Wing) through free agency, then the situation changes a bit for him. Neil on the fourth and Silfverberg on the 3rd would be nice.
Rundblad Gonchar
Philips Karlsson
Cowen Carkner
Lee
*Wiercioch is the forgotten one but has had good experience last year and could play minutes if Rundblad or Cowen are not living up to potential. Kuba will be traded or waived.
I agree. And if he does sign someone, make damn sure its for 1 year only..
Sorry did not mean to come off so hard.. but after watching Kaberle down the stretch and in the playoffs... I'm a no.
Murray wants players under 30.. so that counts him out anyway.
Besides it's a re-build. Let the youth play... that's Cowen & Rundblad. Too many D right now.... I can't see them getting another unless it's Doughty... which is not happening.
Hedberg is is contract negotiations with the Devils right now. With Brodeur aging.. he could be a decent stop-gap.
As for your list of UFA's.. we have enough of the young guys to fill the 3rd & 4th lines... need a top 2 centre... which unless Sens get Brad Richards -- not happening in this UFA bunch.
No.
Aside from Ryan Miller being amazing, there's a reason he played so many games; they were scared t play Lalime.
Every once in a while, Lalime still has a really good game, but IMAGINE if Anderson got injured for more than a few games. It would be Elliott all over again in the sense that any shot could go in and the players lose confidence in their goalie.
I'd say there's about a 0.5% percent chance he has Burke-like resurgence late in his career
On another note, what about signing Michael Ryder? He's a guy who can score a few goals, would be good on the PP & might be a good winger for Spezza. Just thinking out loud on that one though...
Agreed. One of the other nice parts was his response about Hitchcock, good on him for mentioning the positives in an obviously negative situation. He's saying and doing all the right things, if he can just keep it up for another 15 yrs ;)
Maybe the Avs should sign him then, imagine having the Dynamic goalie tandem of Elliot & Lalime....lol
Avs didn't qualify Elliott. He's UFA.
If Sens sign Lalime....facep alm.
I'd like to see him stay next season.
Hedberg for backup goalie.
Osgood, is reasonably priced.
Karlsson, Rundblad, Phillips, Gonchar, Lee, Kuba, Carkner, Cowen, Weircioch, Gryba - plenty there to find a top 6 plus one.
No 3rd liner UFAs either. Either a bonafide top 6 guy who's under 30 and signs a good contract for 4 years or so (which won't happen) or stick with these guys:
Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, ZSmith, Winchester, Foligno, Regin, Neil, Filatov, Butler, Greening, Condra, DaCosta, Wick and the mess of prospects we have can all fight it out for the 12 or 13 spots.
Probably too early to know if we'd want Shannon as the 13th forward and let the rest of the guys play in Bingo/Junior so I guess he signs elsewhere. Too bad - would like to have him around but not really heartbroken over it.
This is exactly why we should look at Greiss or Lalime. The goal is to lose as many games as possible so we can get a top 3 pick in a GOOD draft. Anderson might stop that from happening, but the possibility of an injury or his being waived (dreaming I know...) exists.
As for Lalime, sign me up. He was excellent for us in the regular season and eliminated the Flyers on his own several times. Lalime rules!!
Nikita Filatov - Jason Spezza -Milan Michalek
Jakob Silfverberg- Mika Zibanejad - Daniel Alfredsson
Nick Foligno - Peter Regin- Bobby Butler
Colin Greening - Zack Smith - Chris Neil
Sergei Gonchar- David Rundblad
Jared Cowen-Erik Karlsson
Chris Phillips-Brian Lee
Anderson
Harding
Extra's
Eric Condra
Da Costa
Carkner
finally someone who actually pays attention to actual sens news and not fantasizes about line ups. big ups to my main man draft night. and tookie for that matter for saying it like it is and be totally realistic. too many dreamers on this website
I really hope the Buffalo's, Toronto's, Florida's etc.. go crazy in free agency this year since the cap went up so much... that will leave the better free agents next season for those teams that were smart enough not to overspend.. and if the cap goes down? all the better...
I don't mind those lines but your first line is skewed. Michalek and Filatov are both LW. I would keep Butler with Spezza IMO. The chemistry is there. They are a perfect match.
....Filatov.
Holy crap. This guy is a BEAUTIFUL skater. He has unbelievable acceleration. He can turn on a dime. His stickhandling is on another planet. Best of all, he had a huge grin on his face the entire time he was on the ice....
In his interview today on the team, he said he was skating in borrowed equipment with his skates 2 sizes to large.
So if he was that good in ill-fitting skates... what could he do with his own?
http://www.youtube.com/user/adamug
Rundblad's got some soft hands, Hoffman has a gorgeous wrist shot, Silfverberg has a gorgeous wrist shot, Ben Blood plays with an insane edge & he's huge, DaCosta seemed slow but also has pretty decent hands, Petersson is a lot smaller than expected but really speedy.
Not a great scouting report by any stretch but we were behind the glass the whole time.
Thought this was an interesting tidbit. If Buffalo offered just a bit more I'd be seriously tempted.
Can Bingo take another run at the Calder Cup... they will only get better next year.. and the year after that.
Blood has 1 more year in college.. so he and Silfverberg will be coming into the lineup in 2012/13 -- when hopefully there will be a season and no lockout. Let's hope the league and the NHLPA can start talking sooner rather than later.
Filatov Spezza Butler
Silverburg Ziby Noeson
Prince Greening Condra/Petersson
Foligno ZSmith Winchester
Pumpel pageau
Rundblad Karlsson
Phillips Cowan
Gryba Carkner
Anderson Lehner
Quoting Floridasensfan:
Puempel as a 13th forward? Not sure bout that.
Silfverberg is probably more suited for checking line duty moreso then Price.
Where is Wiercioch? I'd have him over Gryba for sure. Not enough mobile D.
D is a bit in the air until we see who stays.
He's going back to the SEL!!!
Excluding FlaSensFan
I wouldn't be pissed if BM signed him but there is def much better out there.
Harding
Conklin
Garon
J. Mcdonald
Mike Smith
We get one of them 5 I'll be satisfied. As for UFA, I fully agree with those who say -30/Top 6 forward. I wish there was news on Fleischmann but he hasn't been cleared yet. (2 Blood clots in lung) Ryder for the right price, ok. Jussi Jok - DEFINITELY! Tim Connolly FUCK NO! Andrew Brunette, meh. Leino (overratted IMO) Erik Cole (Always liked him)
continued
If were not shocked out of our minds in the coming 2 weeks our 1st line will be: Fila-Spezz-BB16 and I can't fucking wait! If BB16 isn't consistent Alfie slips back in his old spot alongside Spezza.
As for the Dev. Camp, I'm super freakin stoked. I have ALWAYS been a huge Hoffman fan (since junior) and think we may see him called up next year, He IMO will be a top 6 forward in the future or excellent trade bait (can't keep everyone) I'm hoping Z and Petersson make the big club, 9MM needs a push and if Petersson kicks him out of the top 6 he brought it on himself. At least he'll be there to score a few shorties.
As for KUBA! if we could get the Filip Fucking Kuba who played for us in his first year here I'd be all for keeping him, but WHERE the fuck did he go?
I've been reading your comments all day on this thread and am sick that some are really considering bringing Patty back. My god let's forget that even his former club would not play him even if their #1 went down. Patrick completely blew his final 3 years in Ottawa, you show me all the stats you want but i watched him play in front of a near perfect defensive team and he was consistantly letting us down in the clutch. Let's start talking about REAL possibilities for our back-up which include Joey MacDonald, Josh Harding or Mathieu Garon.
Hoping to get to the scrimmage tomorrow.
C-Mac
Now I'm also going to go out on a limb for Lee, I still think Kopitar or M. Staal everytime I see Lee or hear his name. But for the last quarter of the season Lee was SOLID! he was there down the stretch in EVERY game yet we NEVER heard his name, meaning he wasn't making dumbass mistakes... he was doing his job and and playing 15 or more minutes a night, I have to say it impressed me. Now I don't think that earns him spot in the top 6, but with a good showing at camp at least a spot on the team. as a 3 D pairing or 7th (fill in)
Murray will sign one of those players and Murray needs to sign a winger not a centremen the Senators have enough centremen. Hedberg is going hit the open Hedberg is not
in talks with the Devils right now.
best case scenario would really be to have Big Z go back to Sweden and Da Costa play in the A and maybe some time pro, and sign a legit second line C for one year as the two develop.
fans want instant success however. I'm included :)
Where did you see that? It's not on TSN.
Are you referring to the trade offer for Spezza? Derek Roy and Zach Kassian.... not enough...
And also the fact that Jason Spezza won't waive his NMC. So again, why does anyone ever bother mentioning Jason Spezza in trade speculation?
But, I do think that on opening night next year, it will look something like this:
Filatov-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-XXXX-Alfredsson
Foligno-XXXX-Greening
Winchester-Smith-Neil
I won't even hazard a guess at the defense at this point, still too many variables, including Kuba's status and how good Cowen and Rundblad end up becoming over the summer.
Anyways, that's based only on who is under contract that I think has a spot on opening night locked up, barring a disaster at training camp.
Regin will certainly get a look at one of those C jobs....assumin g he's still around.
I also like the idea of Condra at 3rd line RW, move Greening back to his original spot at LW, and put Foligno back at C, considering that is where he played his jr.
Greening -- Foligno -- Condra.... I say that would be a pretty good line...
It's that 2nd line centre... Can Regin fill the hole?
Also, maybe after the dust has settled in the UFA market... do you think it's possible Murray could trade Kuba to a team still looking to get to the cap floor?
Milan Michalek plays RW/LW ...Filatov plays both sides as well
maybe we can get kariya as well. or mark recchi. cmon dude get the shit outta you ears
You don't experiment with two rookies on your top line, that's just upsurd Michalek is staying on the first with Spez and Butler. Filatov will play on the second line with Alfie.
you know as much as everyone else at this point buddie. lets save the line making to the coach alright. have a seat
McKenzie twittered it. But he later corrected himself saying that Toronto was granted a 48hr period to negotiate with Talbot. Talbot shot them down and so his rights are still with Pittsburgh.
Smart kid this Talbot..
It will get done. They have until 5pm tomorrow I believe. The window between the draft and July 1st is narrow and everyone involved expected to deal with these RFAs in that window.
Nothing to panic about.
He was solid in the time he was here. Plus it's not like he would be a starter, I was wondering why he wouldn't be able to be the back up.
Don't be paranoid, he's not going anywhere.
Sorry - but that's just not accurate. Murray is not going to sign any of thoes guys unless they somehow agree to a crazy low-ball offer. And even then I'd be against it (some more than others).
And neither of the goalies you're coveting are the right fit for Ottawa. We need a league minimum guy who doesn't mind splinters in his butt.
Everyone talks about the 2003 draft with Perry and Getzlaf (btw - I'm hopin' this draft proves to be similar in terms of depth), the Luongo/Jokinen trade w/ the the Islanders, and recently with aquiring Anderson, but his record with undrafted players, in my opinion, has been phenominal.
In the wake of the draft, THN has an article rating the top 10 non-drafted NHLers, I was pleased that BM signed three of them as GM (NJ cleaned up too), and all three went on to win Cups.
Anaheim - Penner and Kunitz
Florida - Dan Boyle
Sign of things to come with the likes of Hamilton, Da Costa, Winchester and Butler, among others? Time will tell.
I am very accurate Murray is going to sign one of them and not low-ball one them Murray will probally target one of go hard after one of them and the goalies that I metioned they all make sense for the Ottawa backup. So who is the accurate one not you!
Terrible
A steal in the 5th round! Wouldn't be surpised if he scores 25-30 for Bingo
I am accurate
Agreed. Though out of your list I'm sincerely banking on Garon. He was amazing last season. He could handle 20 games for us easy.
Let Lehner stay in the AHL, unless Anderson gets hurt. We must prepare for the worst and an old man like Lalime is not the answer. I dont think I could look at him face to face and not cry after that game 7 vs Toronto... It hurt too much, I need more time.
DrS
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=1196&id=119983&navid=DL|OTT|home
Development Camp: Nikita Filatov Skates
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=1196&id=119983&navid=DL|OTT|home
Niki amazing with his skating Wow
Michalek/Spezza has been tried, and tried, and tried AND TRIED!!! and it failed, and failed, AND FAILED!!! sure it worked the first 30 or so games in 09-10, but since then... Two words: Horribly Inconsistent.
9MM-Spezz-Butle r??? Been there done that.
Enter Filatov, not like he hasn't ever played with a star
I think SF19 got in to his parents cough syrup! He`s starting to sound like Yoda. Accurate am I. Sign Ladd Murray will. Hmmph. Use the Schwartz!
What did you get into your parents meth!
I think that Denisvial got into his parents meth.
I think that Murray will stand pat and not sign anybody
from Denisvial.
Here will be one of the big signing that Murray
will come out nowhere that no one expects.
1.Erik Cole
2.Ville Leino
3.Tim Connoly
Connoly is injury prone and soft. Big no
Leino,Upshall,Jokinen would be the only top 6 options I can see Murray mulling over .
After Spezza, we are disgustingly week down the middle. Yes we may have a lot of centers in the line-up but none of them have shown there capable of centering the second or even third lines. I feel comfortable with Smith, Winnie, and Regin as 4th line centers but nothing more. Regin has the talent but he isn't nearly strong enough on his skates or stick to be consistent at the NHL level.
pretty hard not to be excited.
my expectations for this year are still low but this rebuild is most definitely on track!
i havent made it out myself as of yet but the consesus seems to be
zib is the real deal
silfverberg looks nhl ready now so give him another year we may have a calder candidate on our hands.
rundblad is the most impressive d in camp by a wide margin
murrays knew what they were buying in noesen
hoffman looks poised to makr an impact in the ahl next year (im sure he'll see alot more minutes with all of the promotions)
One more thing re: Lalime... His character (being a 'good guy in the room' or 'on the bench' means absolutely nothing if he can't stop a puck. All the goodwill he garners will dissappear if Anderson gets injured and he lets in what should be easy saves.
All I can say is that I hope Murray isn't even CONSIDERING Lalime (no offense intended to Patty).
The session will be moderated by team broadcaster Gord Wilson. A meet-and-greet reception with players also follows the scrimmage. Both events will take place in Stanley’s Fresh Grill and Team Headquarters.
The scrimmage will also serve as preparation for the annual round-robin 3-on-3 tournament, which closes out the camp next Monday. Both events will be open to the public and take place on the Scotiabank ice surface at the Bell Sensplex.
TEAM BLACK
Bobby Butler
Mike Clemente (G)
Corey Cowick
Eric Gryba
Mike Hoffman
Taylor Nelson (G)
Jim O’Brien
Michael Sdao
Marcus Sorensen
Mark Stone
Shawn Szydowski
Chris Wideman
Patrick Wiercioch
TEAM WHITE
Bryce Aneloski
Ruslan Bashkirov
Ben Blood
Mark Borowiecki
Louie Caporusso
Erik Condra
Jakub Culek
Colin Greening
Robin Lehner (G)
Daniel New
Brad Peltz
Jakob Silfverberg
Zack Smith
wtf
agreed...
But then I'll rant for a while how it's a dumb move on Murray's part during a rebuild.
Until then, I maintain that you're wrong - he's not going to "target" any of those guys like he did Gonchar.
And those goalies are not good fits - they'll all make well over $1M so unless they agree to sign here for less than other teams will over - forget them.
Sigh
Butler is an RFA. We gave him a qualifying offer (see earlier Chirp posts). Other teams can try to submit an offer sheet though.
The fact that he signed here just last year in the first place means there's about 0 chance we don't resign him. Could be confirmed already just not announced until the other RFAs are confirmed as well.
2010? Looks like this is last year's roster.
LOL.. Yeah that makes more sense... I figured they couldn't be leaving out all the guys we got in this years draft..
Holy crap your right, LOL. WTH!!
After last summer’s inaugural evening scrimmage (5-on-5), the event will once again be featured at this year’s camp on Thursday, June 30, at 7 p.m. at the Bell Sensplex. The scrimmage will be followed by a meet and greet reception with Senators season-seat holders in the fieldhouse on the lower level of the Sensplex.
- The annual 3-on-3 tournament is set to take place at the Bell Sensplex on Monday, July 4, at 9:45 a.m.
All on-ice workouts, including the team scrimmage and 3-on-3 tournament, are open to the public
So only the Meet & Greet is for STH.
Nothing on teams yet.
Filatov - I was so excited hearing the news when BM made the trade for this kid. I always felt he had the talent to be an explosive player in the league, but didn't have the chance in CBJ, or the team around him to prove it. He's only 21, for a team to give up on a potential superstar so quick is absurd. But, another teams mental lapse is Ottawa's gain.
Rundblad - Another amazing snag during a draft where BM showed why he's a talented GM. Will Tarasenko live up to it? There's so much that can be said about this kid, I can't wait to see him in an Ottawa Jersey.
Lehner - Great talent, will eventually be our #1. But needs his AHL experience. Let him stay down and win another Calder, it'll only help us later.
Chirp, just had the VEET LEG WAXING STRIPS ad come on and balst audio out of my work computer. I thought this was a manly hockey site man! Good thing no one here heard it and called me out on it haha...
tj oshie re-signs, could this be a sign and trade deal????
at the price the sens could look at him for sure.
What would the cost be, maybe Wiercoch and pick????
Going tonight, will try and post updates via phone of who looks good and who doesnt in the scrimmage.
I will be right.
Also all those goalies make sense.
I think Drury would make a great adition on the third line with Neil and Winchester maybe. He's not a scoring center, but he plats with a lot of grit and brings leadership for the younger guys. I would say it would be a good move (for the right price that is).