According to a few reports, Filatov was on vacation with his family in the Dominican but I guess he changed his plans. Filatov is 21 years old and has NHL experience so missing this Camp would not have been a huge deal but it's still good to see him make the effort to participate. Wayne Scanlan indicated that there are some Visa issues he has to sort out first but he is hoping to be in Ottawa by tomorrow.
For the rest of the guys that are in camp, Development Camp kicks off today at 1:30.
One interesting name among the guys that will be in attendance at this year's camp is Kirill Lyamin. Drafted in 2004, Lyamin has spent the last three seasons in the KHL and is expected to play over there again this season. Interesting to see that he made the decision to come over.
The camp will also feature a number of Swedes including Jakob Silfverberg, Andre Petersson, David Rundblad, Fredrik Claesson, Marcus Sorensen and Mika Zibanejad.
The media guide for the camp can be found here.
Caps forward and UFA to be Brooks Laich has signed an extension in Washington. He ended up getting a six year contract at $4.5 million a season. Certainly no hometown discount there. Hard to imagine Laich could have got a deal better than that on the open market.
Laich is a former Sens draft pick and one of the names that has come up often in terms of potential UFA targets. I think the Sens dodged a bullet on that one.
Q: Are you coming to the Dvelepoment camp on Wednesday
A: yep
Well I guess that clears that up!
Even Cyril Leeder alluded to it at a Q&A at end of season but Cyril didn't really say we were getting one.
Also, Kirill Lyamin profile
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/kirill_lyamin
Glad we didn't go after him.
Have to agree Hax. That was what I got from it too. He obviously was not being forced to showing up and he has NHL experience etc. so he by no means had/has to join the camp.
Maybe he really is looking at this as a fresh start and is ready to set his priorities
Again, just a maybe but I am choosing to take this as a positive sign.
If this works out and this kid end up being what he was projected to be then this will be the move that puts BM into genius status haha
http://yfrog.com/h8ybijoj
Shocked about Kiril Lyamin. I pretty much had written him off a couple of years ago. Wonder what made him decide to come to camp and what are the chances he may change his mind and come to North America next season?
Really nothing wrong with that. If he wants to take a chance to prove himself early and see how he'll be treated/used more power to him. Not like Murray/MacLean would be like "well i'd rather keep x but Filatov came to dev camp". They'll keep the guy they like best.
I was reading his comment the other day. He seems to have the right attitude coming into this:
When asked about comparing himself to Kovalev:
"cant really compare my self to kovalev. and anyway he is a great player. and i m far from him. very far."
When asked if he is excited that Murray mentioned that he could see Top 6 minutes this season:
"of course i am. but thats just words. i ll have to use the chance and prove that i deserve it"
When told he would have to work hard to prove himself in Ottawa:
"i learned lot from last 3 years . lots of mistakes done. so , will try to not to make even one in ottawa"
Sounds like he is committed to turning things around, let's hope so!
What do you expect him to say, LOL, I wont work hard?
He said the same things in CBJ. Its well known he doesnt have a good work ethic, he may shines at the camp, being the best player there with Rundblad but come regular season time and playing vs much better competition is where we will see his true colours (Russia red). I hope im wrong!
That's not him at a press conference. That is him texting drunk from a beach in the Dominican on a social networking site where he mostly chit chats with Russian hotties.
Maybe he is the only athlete on Earth who has learned not to say retarded things on sites that are public. Or maybe his heart is in the right place.
Coming from a guy whose every second word is Yakupov, I'm surprised if you are down on this Russian. Low risk - high reward type scenario.
Yak & Galchenyuk got out of Russia, They CHOSE to go to OHL instead of playing in Russia, different breed of Russians here!
Here's a question... Filatov is in his contract year, so you know he will be extra motivated to behave and perform. If he has a good season, do the Sens test the market on his trade value to avoid a potential contract secured performance "letdown" a la Radek Bonk or do they sign him to medium term deal?
What if a lottery team offered their 1st round pick for him? Do the Sens take it?
Dont get me wrong Im happy he's saying all those things, but they are only words...He has to step up, saying and doing what you said are two different worlds.
I was thinking more that he may be coming now (early summer) to see if it's worth coming to the main camp or just play in Russia next year, which is what he was planning on doing before the trade. I'm sure his showing up to the dev camp has no bearing on if/how much he'll play next year. That's why I wonder if this he's coming for the wrong reason. If he "feels" like Ottawa won't be any different than Columbus then he may decide to stay in Russia. This probably isn't the case, but it's in the back of my mind.
Even if he turn out to be a fail experiment, he has the KHL to fall back on, get his big payday there. I dont think he's motivated to perform cuz its a contract year.
Yeah it's just words but he's making added effort to come to this development camp when he doesn't have to. Getting off on the right foot in my eyes. I'm not expecting Filatov to live up to his draft position, and I'll always be leery of Russian players, but he's certainly saying and doing the right things so far.
Gotta admit I usually agree with your comments Tookie, because they are more realistic than most on this site (i.e. Sens being a bottom team again this year), but this comment is just unnecessary. Give the kid a chance for heavens sake.
Secondly, there seems to be a bit of an exodus from the KHL going on. Some players may be looking to get out while the getting is good. That league may not be financially stable...
BOOM
You mean a 2nd chance :)
That moron Burke is probably making some calls this very moment.
Even Cyril Leeder alluded to it at a Q&A at end of season but Cyril didn't really say we were getting one.
Sweet! Awesome news! Does your buddy know if it will be unveiled at the home opener? Or at the All star game?
Johne, he was going to play in the KHL had he not been traded...
I know this is a year ago, but he wants to be a star in the NHL, so as long as Ottawa gives him that opportunity, I doubt there is much to fear about him leaving for the KHL.
Nikita Filatov: "I am determined to return to the NHL next year. Surely the salaries are better in the KHL, but overseas the level of play is higher. I'll try to make the first team in the NHL. And I'll try getting on the roster for the World Championships too."
Remind me again what CHL team Alex Ovechkin or Evgeni Malkin played for again? ... Oh wait they stayed in Russia for their junior careers, we better tell washington and pits they don't have the 'good' breed of Russians.
That doesn't change the fact that his end goal is still the NHL though! It's just that he didn't want to play in Columbus and their minor league team anymore.
Same breed, different paths. The point is they DONT want to go back to Russia. Unlike other Russians.
Thats true and I said I hope Im wrong about him. IF the Sens, for some reason send him to Bingo, forget about it, he's bolting to the KHL.
NO! Hitchcock didn't give him a chance. He was constantly moved from line to line and rarely played 10 minutes a game. That's not a chance. He needs 20-30 games with Spezza playing first line minutes.
Butler is a better match. He's the kind of player that positions himself very well to receive the pass and takes the shot. More like Healtey than anyone we've tried to pair with him so far.
I would expect that when the hype settles, Butler will be on the top line with Spezz, and Filatov will be on the second line with Alfie. Question is, who will centre that line.
I'm glad we didn't over pay for Laich. He's not a second line centre. He's a top notch third line centre.
There is nothing impressive to consider from this year's crop of UFAs...
I'm willing to bet both end up in the KHL in 2014 if NHL states they won't allow their players to participate in Sochi. They'll play the year then come back.
Oh, and to clarify, they don't come over because they're a different breed. They come over because they get more ice time in the CHL (1st/2nd line) than they would in the KHL (3rd/4th line). Don't think if things don't go right for them they won't bolt back to Russia. That may not be consistent with all Russians, but it is for most.
Surely you don't mean Filatov ... He's been quoted many times saying he wants to play in the best league in the world (the NHL). The Russians who go back to the KHL are usually the fringe players or older ones who can collect the big pay cheques - every good/great sports player wants to play in the best league available to them (they are competitive athletes, maybe if you played sports you would understand this)
Also can't wait for the HOF announcement.
Could his change of mind have anything to do with Filatov. Both are from Moscow and at a time I think both played on the same team in the KHL?
But Bashkirov came over last year... maybe nothing more than curiosity?
So I'm pretty sure Lyamin attendance at the development camp is nothing but a curiosity
www.hawk.ru/news/6277.htm
To find out what they want him to do in way of preparation for next season.
Get to meet some potential teammates?
Why such a negative thought process to this.
If he really does want to make it in the NHL.. this could be his last opportunity.
Columbus failed with Filatov, Zherdev, Brule.. Is it their drafting was no good? or their development?
Grabner did not succeed in Vancouver or Florida.. but he sure as hell did with the Islanders.
Maybe he will try his best with this 2nd chance.
Also do you think with all of these teams that need to get to the cap floor... Sens maybe able to trade Kuba?
I think Gonchar stays... they may need him to help with Filatov.
Any news on if Runblad and karlsson will rent a house together, and move out of Alfies place,
Yes, but at what cost?
Lots of term left on his contract unfortunately. For a guy that's still injury prone in my books (though he's done pretty well the last 3 seasons) that's a big risk. I'd love to have him back though.
GO NIKI GO!.....prove all those haters wrong!
Havlat is a great player when he's healthy. Unfortunatly he has some weak groin muscles.
Good for him! - Way to start making the best of a second chance. It certainly shows (would show) that he's taking it seriously.
re Lyamin
My best uneducated guess would be that he's coming here because some other NHL team has expressed curiousity as part of a trade package. (we certainly don't seem to need him in the Sens organization, and what better chance for someone else to take a look at him before potential moves on or around July 1st).
I say Changing.
I also say, Don't sell yourselves short, Sens fans!
It must be really easy for Filatov to have a good attitude when his social page has gotten more posts from us Sens fans in 4 days than it got in his 3 years with Columbus.
This guy sees the love, he knows we're excited to see what he can do, and it sounds like he doesn't want to let us (or himself) down.
Best fans on earth (minus tookie... "but I hope I'm wrong")
OH NO YOU DEF NOT WRONG ON THAT ONE
Puempel not on the ice, no sign of Costello, I think everyone else was there.
Zibanejad looked very strong. He pushed some guys around, looks to be a good passer, strong moves, all around I was impressed.
Best shot at camp by far was Caporusso, hard and accurate.
Lyamin looked fat to me, but he was pushing guys around easily, probably because he's older and more experienced than everyone there. Still, I thought he looked pretty good.
And there was some asshole standing behind me the entire time, verbally analyzing everything every player did. I'm sure he really thought he sounded like he knew what he was talking about, but he definitely did not. I'm pretty sure it was Tookie.
(Sorry Tookie, couldn't resist taking a shot) ;)
I will def make my way our there tomorrow and thursday for the 3vs3
lets hope thats not the case.
Absolutely... yes...
But would he want to come back. He had great chemistry with Spezza.
Question is what would Ottawa have to give up? Quite a lot I imagine.
He has had 3 relatively healthy seasons... he was a fan favorite. Great speed.
I think michalek is line 2 material.
Filatov is a 70+ pt guy or a fail. I think with the right people aorund him he will fly.
Filatov, Spezza, Butler would work great as people have stated.
I am looking for them to trade Regin though. No room for him on the second line (no production) and no room for him on the 3rd (not strong enough), Smith, Winnie Da Costa can run that
How about we just get behind him 100% and hope for the best for him and for us because he is one of our guys a Senator.
The media is going to be brutal enough for him, the least us fans can do is get behind our player and cheer for him to light it up.
Did anyone here the Boos and The USA chants when Pierre Gauthier was wishing everyone a happy St Jean during the Draft on friday. SO much disrespect
Agreed. Forget about the fact that he's Russian, forget about the fact that he's had a lot of problems breaking into the league.
I say give Filatov enough rope, and he'll either tie a knot or hang himself. But let him come in here with a clean slate and do what he does. This trade has the potential to be a major success for the Senators, so let's not kill the guy or assume he's going to be a jerk before he even gets here. If he ends up that way, fine, but judge him based on what he does going forward, not on what he's done to this point.
So overall, players that stood out for me in particular were;
Rundblad (pounding guys on the 2 vs 2 drill, great poise with the puck)
Silverberg (was flying during drills, great shot)
Prince (Smooth as silk, great hands)
Zibby (Bigger than he looks, he's got tree trunks for legs, great shot, great skater, big motor)
Stone (skating was ok, but he can shoot the puck, protects the puck perfectly along the halfwall)
and Noesen (This guys was a pleasant surprise, he was good at pretty much everything but stood out in picking his shots, this guy is a sniper!)
Oh and Blood is HUUUUGGEEE!!!
The kids name is Blood! Of course hes huge. Reincarnation of god damn Dracula.
Tookie were there any autograph opportunities?
Cowen (slow foot speed, indecisive, needs to be meaner)
Da Costa (Head down alot, lost puck alot on the halfwall, he did score a nice goal tho)
Agreed, Blood was monstrous.
Puempel not on the ice, no sign of Costello, I think everyone else was there.
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Yea odd he wasn't on the ice (perhaps his hip isn't 100%) but he blogged about his experience today:
http://fans.senators.nhl.com/community/blog/11/entry-235-puempel-i-couldnt-be-happier-to-be-in-ottawa/
IS THIS POSITIVE COMMENT FROM TOOKIE?!?!?
Can this guy still play? He's only 32...
He was there, he didnt stand out nor was he invisible, he was decent, skated well, was less physical than most but that is expected.
I never said anything bad regarding this years draft results, I was quite pleased actually.
This is a fake Tookie
Johne your an idiot!
you're*
He can but he's more injury prone than Leclaire, even at 800k I wouldnt take this dude.
Kind of a loaded question, doubt you can take a guess with just one viewing.
I wonder if Silverburg is out of the question to play this season, I know he is booked for Sweden but that just ensures he does not spend any time in Bingo does it not.
Just wonder if Sweden is a lock for him this year.
Just saying... in all fairness
Only one I could think of based off 1 viewing is Zibanejad, I think he would be the only one who could withstand an 82 game season at the NHL level. But even he would struggle.
Silfverberg imo is going back to Sweden, 1 more year will do him wonders!
Lots of guys with a shot next year, would hate to fill the spot and kill a chance of one of our guys moving up.
Go as we are and let the chips fall where they may.
Better chance now to trade kuba, not many puck moving d-men out there this year.
-Erhoff
-McCabe
-Salo
-Kaberle
-Wiesniwsky
Trade Kuba to Florida they need players with high cap.
Maybe package a prospect and Kuba for something good.
Zubov??? Daugavins???
Get it done Murray
Very cool, I am envious of you guys that can go.
were there a lot of fans there or not so much.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Senators+rookies+hope+crack+defence+corps/5017294/story.html
23 sec spot.
It's not just words at this point.
He doesn't have to be at a development camp at his age.
The fact that he's going means he's putting his ego aside, swallowing his pride etc.
Obviously, he's not a success yet, but he's clearly working hard to
impress. Sorry took - you can't just brush that off as words.
Yeah had a ncie turnout, I think I saw an article about it actually, so was nice to see that!
No way I could relax and enjoy a vacation with all that going on in my head.
I am sure he is stoked, how could he not be.
I know off-topic... as most of us are now concentrating on the development camp... but since July 1st is only 3 days away... have you heard anything regarding who Sens may be targetting as a backup goaltender?
Could he have an out clause in the contract and he wants to see what it is like over here and consider whether to make the jump?
The kid said (in perfect English in case you didn't know) from the day he was drafted, even before, that he wanted to play in the NHL.
If he's a bust, or has a bad attitude, then I guess Cody Hodgson, Colin Wilson, Mikkel Boedker, Josh Bailey, Kyle Beach, Zach Boychuk, Mathias Tedenby, and Joe Colburne do too. That's because they've done nothing in the NHL either, nor should they as they are only 21 years old. In fact, most are still top prospects that have yet to crack the NHL roster full-time. Yet, Filatov has been messed around with by a desperate Columbus team for the last 3 years.
All you people that say Filatov has a bad attitude, don't know shit, and you should be ignored. Have a nice day.
i also saw foligno, he showed up at arround 2:30 and he went on the other ice rink and practice with puempel. puempel was practicing alone since i assume he is still not allowed to take part in a contact practice. was pretty cool to see foligno decide to go help puempel practice.
All good points. To further emphasize that, how about the guys drafted the year BEFORE Filatov that people think will be stars, yet haven't found their way in the league yet.
It was only this past year that James Van Riemsdyk and Logan Couture found their way. If Filatov develops at that same rate, then he'll come into his own next year.
WAYYYYY too early to try and call this kid a bust, and despite what guys like Garrioch want you to believe, this is not a gamble.
While I agree with your post in general and also agree that many posters here are getting too worked up, it's a fact that his reputation is that he's not committed to the NHL game. That's why CLB was willing to give up on him for our 3rd round pick. That's why no other clubs offered more.
NOT saying he can't totally succeed here - I hope he does. But I wouldn't say that concerns over his attitude are completely unfounded.
What I've read was BM was the only one who offered anything.
I've been a fan of Nikita Filatov since he was drafted and have suffered through the past 3 years. I hated the Blue Jackets before he was drafted but I REALLY hate them now. Dumb chumps. All I want to say is that everyone should keep an open mind and let Filatov get comfortable enough to relax here. He's terrified to make a mistake.
I don't know what Zherdev did to Columbus, but from day 1 it was like they were trying to get back at him through Filatov or something.
Nice try, but...
Columbus, having ruined any confidence the player had with their incompetence, decides they don't want the player any longer. Or, Filatov said "I've had enough comrade, trade me now", either way. Columbus was likely looking to trade the player to the opposite conference. They then need to find a team that is looking to acquire Top 6 talent, while still taking on a player with a $2 million plus pricetag. Ottawa fits all those criteria, not too mention Ottawa and Columbus seem to have a pretty good relationship to begin with.
To say that Ottawa traded a 3rd round pick for him means that Filatov has a bad attitude is rather shortsighted, and quite frankly based on nothing but assumptions. The kid has done everything asked of him, just for whatever reason (being rushed to the NHL?), it hasn't worked out for him yet.
P.S. Sad to see the characters per post hasn't been changed. Makes the quote button useless.
Sens Director of Player Development Randy Lee indicated that this was the most talent he has seen at a Development Camp in his 15 years with the club.
Also mentioned that Colin Greening is the most impressive "physical specimen" since Chara left. Pretty high praise for Greening!
yaaaa, heeeeee's dreamy
ohh randy lee: the name says it all.
They're much appreciated by those of us who can't attend.
That's great to hear Chirp! Maybe that AHL championship can turn into an AHL Dynasty followed by an NHL cup! We can only hope =)
Spezza, Michalek, Butler, and Zibanejad should all be top six forwards for a long time after the latter two establish themselves over the next two seasons. Alfie holds down a spot until he retires or his health completely fades.
Just making fair projections one of Puempel, Noesen, or Filatov will almost certainly become a top six forward in Ottawa for an extended pariod of time over the next three years.
Ignoring Alfie that basically leaves one T6F spot for the rest of this group to fight over in the future. Should result in excellent competition going forward.
It's not the ideal situation but Ottawa is starting to build some depth and potential to have four 60+ point players in the top six eventually.
Pretty sure Pierre ruined his pants one game when he was talking about Greening's muscles ... just saying
Or as you alluded to - if all that has happened that his confidence and/or motivation was ruined by Columbus then that's the risk we took.
Again - I'm betting we'll love this trade before too long, just not exactly betting the farm.
Unless you know him personally you can't say for certain that there's no attitude issue whatsoever.
Greening is not at the camp.
http://cfrn.player.amri.ca/
I misread then I thought this was referring to camp, my mistake
They won't be at camp when they sign - it's dev camp - not training camp or even rookie NHL camp. It's to get a good look at draft picks and dev prospects they don't see in Ottawa or Bingo all year long.
BUT - they wouldn't be there without contracts either - so yes, they should hopefully be signed very soon.
key difference btwn sens and jackets is the sens have a history of developing high end talent.
columbus produced nash, thats it...lots of prospects but nonw have lived up to their hype "yet".
sens developed
karlsson, spezza, chara, phillips, havlat, hossa etc.
three coaches that are ideal for young players, filatov will thrive.
if nothing else, he's an swesome weapon on the pp...
He was surprised about the trade, but excited about moving to the Eastern conf, Chesnokov feels like his game is suited more for the east.
Chesnokov thinks the change of scenery is going to help with his mentality that he can live up to be a top 6 forward and certainly believes that he possesses that skill and it was coaching/psycho logical that ultimately failed him in Columbus.
- I worked on contract with Randy and the Sens for close to 5 years in strength and conditioning. Randy and the rest of the staff used to rave about Emery too. For a goalie, he too was a beast.
- Prediction: In 6 years, Ottawa and Edmonton face off for the Stanley Cup. Canadians in general will still favour Edmonton. Because of Lehner, we will spank their sissy asses.
I think it was RL (could have been TM) who said on the TEAM 1200 today that some players fans may expect to see here for this camp are not here because there is no room. They have too many prospects to have them all here! Fits in with his comment about the best group in 15 years.
I would be thoroughly disappointed to see Butler not a Sen next season.
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=119375&navid=DL|OTT|home
Day 1 of development Camp:
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=119375&navid=DL|OTT|home
"Никита, приветствую в Сенате! Болельщики Оттавы на nhl.ru рады такому пополнению. Надеемся, что всё получится, и тройка Филатов-Спецца- Батлер (ФСБ) станет лучшей во всей Лиге. Успехов! Когда ждать в тренировочном лагере Оттавы?"
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"Sha yge v develompent lagere. Spasibo ogromnoe. Ochen priyatno!! Bydy staratsa, skoro vidno bydet poylchaetsa ili net)))"
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"Nikita, welcome to the Senate! Fans in Ottawa nhl.ru delighted at the completion. We hope that all will turn, and the triple Filatov-Spezza- Butler (FSB. FSB - is the Russian equivalent of the FBI) will be the best in the entire league. Good luck! When will Ottawa at training camp?"
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now in real estate development camp. Thank you very much. Very nice! I will try, we'll see soon, it will or not)))
All of Ottawa RFA's received qualifying offers except for Bass, Bailey, and Potulny.
So, Butler either signs a contract or he files for arbitration. The only way he doesn't come back is if he goes to arbitration and the team walks away from the contract he's awarded.
He'll be back here, there's no doubt.
Could always use another Newfoundlander.
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