The Filatov trade is a stroke of genious by Murray. A low risk, high reward type of move that could pay huge dividends for this team down the road. Filatov has all the skill in the world and could have a chance to play on Spezza's wing this season.
With three picks in the first 24- each of which was used to select a forward- the Sens have gone a long way towards restocking the prospect pool up front.
While Ottawa definitely tried to move up in round one, the cost was just too high. They were more than happy to take Mika Zibanejad with their first selection. As I mentioned a few times on the blog, the Sens just didn't like what they saw from Couturier. Stefan Noesen was a bit of a surprise selection at 21 but the word is the Sens knew he wouldn't last till round two.
Ottawa was able to package up a couple of second rounders and grab one of the more intriguing offensive players in the draft in Matt Puempel. Not to toot my own horn or anything but I believe I was the first one to break that deal on Twitter and the first to suggest they may take Puempel. Hopefully a few fans noticed.
Here is a complete list of the Sens picks
- 6- C Mika Zibanejad- Djugarden- SEL
- 21- RW Stefan Noesen- Plymouth- OHL
- 24- LW Matt Puempel- Peterborough- OHL
- 61- LW Shane Prince- Ottawa 67's- OHL
- 96- C Jean-Gabriel Pageau- Gatineau Olympiques- QMJHL
- 126- D Fredrik Claesson- Djugarden- SEL
- 156- C Darren Kramer- Spokane- WHL
- 171- LW Max McCormick- Sioux City- USHL
- 186- D Jordan Fransoo- Brandon- WHL
- 204- C Ryan Dzingel- Lincoln- USHL
Nicklas Bergfors, RW/LW.
Matt Gilroy, D.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Nikita Filatov ($2.195m) / Jason Spezza ($7.000m) / Bobby Butler ($0.900m)
Daniel Alfredsson ($4.875m) / Brad Richards ($7.800m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Nick Foligno ($1.200m) / Zack Smith ($0.700m) / Milan Michalek ($4.333m)
Jesse Winchester ($0.750m) / Stephane Da Costa ($1.325m) / Chris Neil ($2.000m)
DEFENSEMEN
Erik Karlsson ($1.300m) / Sergei Gonchar ($5.500m)
Chris Phillips ($3.083m) / Jared Cowen ($1.265m)
David Rundblad ($1.500m) / Brian Lee ($0.875m)
GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson ($3.187m) / Alex Auld ($1.000m)
BUYOUTS: Jonathan Cheechoo ($1.166m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($0.700m) / Ray Emery ($0.562m)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,719,166
FORWARDS
Nikita Filatov ($2.195m) / Jason Spezza ($7.000m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.875m)
Nicklas Bergfors ($0.900m) / Mika Zibanejad ($1.200m) / Jakob Silfverberg ($0.863m)
Milan Michalek ($4.333m) / Colin Greening ($0.816m) / Bobby Butler ($0.900m)
Nick Foligno ($1.200m) / Zack Smith ($0.700m) / Chris Neil ($2.000m)
DEFENSEMEN
David Rundblad ($1.500m) / Sergei Gonchar ($5.500m)
Jared Cowen ($1.265m) / Erik Karlsson ($1.300m)
Chris Phillips ($3.083m) / Matt Gilroy ($1.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson ($3.187m) / Josh Harding ($1.200m)
BUYOUTS: Jonathan Cheechoo ($1.166m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($0.700m) / Ray Emery ($0.562m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $47,799,166; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $16,100,834
do we not need to hit 50mill, or does the bonuses play into that?
No, Cap Floor is 48.3 million give or take a raise or 2 to that roster you will have plenty of cap space to keep the re bulid strong
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/06/25/howson-admits-mistake-deals-filatov/
Havent seen any comments from him yet. Where did ya hear that?
Would love to get Brooks Laich as our 2nd line center, and want Auld back as our backup goalie.
He's not admitting the trade is a mistake, he's saying it was a mistake to pick Filatov in the 2008 draft.
FORWARDS
Nikita Filatov ($2.195m) / Jason Spezza ($7.000m) / Bobby Butler ($2.000m)
Milan Michalek ($4.333m) / Brooks Laich ($4.000m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.875m)
Nick Foligno ($1.200m) / Zack Smith ($0.700m) / Jesse Winchester ($0.750m)
Chris Neil ($2.000m) / Stephane Da Costa ($1.325m) / Colin Greening ($0.816m)
/ Jakob Silfverberg ($0.863m)
DEFENSEMEN
Sergei Gonchar ($5.500m) / Erik Karlsson ($1.300m)
Chris Phillips ($3.083m) / Jared Cowen ($1.265m)
David Rundblad ($1.500m) / Brian Lee ($0.875m)
/ Filip Kuba ($3.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson ($3.187m) / Josh Harding ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS: Jonathan Cheechoo ($1.166m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($0.700m) / Ray Emery ($0.562m)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,399,166; BONUSES: $3,650,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $7,900,834
Here's a look at who the Sens have under contract for next season in both NHL & AHL. Who do we re-sign? Let walk? UFA?
Sens
LW- Foligno, Michalek, Greening, Filatov
C- Spezza, Regin, Smith, Winchester
RW- Alfredsson, Neil
D- Karlsson, Gonchar, Runblad, Kuba, Phillips, Lee, Carkner, Cowen
G- Andersson, ?
B-Sens
LW- Cowick, Hoffman, Dziurz ynski, Cannone
C- Da Costa, Grant, Hamilton, Caporusso, Locke, O'brien
RW- Petersson
D- Wiercioch, Gryba, Schira, Borowie ckiG- Lehner,?
RFA: Butler, Condra, Wick, Kinrade, Daugavins, Bail ey, Potulny, Bass,
UFA: Hale, Brodeur, D.Smith, Benoit, Keller, Shannon , McElhinney,
I honestly think you'll see Cowen in the AHL. Matt Carkner will probably start the season, IMO.
FORWARDS
Nikita Filatov ($2.195m) / Jason Spezza ($7.000m) / Milan Michalek ($4.333m)
Daniel Alfredsson ($4.875m) / Brooks Laich ($4.000m) / Bobby Butler ($0.900m)
Colin Greening ($0.816m) / Peter Regin ($1.000m) / Nick Foligno ($1.200m)
Chris Neil ($2.000m) / Zack Smith ($0.700m) / Jesse Winchester ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Chris Phillips ($3.083m) / Jared Cowen ($1.265m)
David Rundblad ($1.500m) / Erik Karlsson ($1.300m)
Sergei Gonchar ($5.500m) / Brian Lee ($0.875m)
Matt Carkner ($0.700m) / Filip Kuba ($3.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson ($3.187m) / Josh Harding ($1.200m)
BUYOUTS: Jonathan Cheechoo ($1.166m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($0.700m) / Ray Emery ($0.562m)
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $9,789,167
If he wasn't happy being traded back to Carolina ... Why the heck would he sign a 2-year deal with them in the summer of 2009.
Granted I've never talk to the guy to ask him personally, but I can confidently assume that if he wasn't happy about going back to the Canes ... he would have gone somewhere else when he became a UFA. If you have some evidence to the contrary ... I'd love to see it.
in Respected positions I PREDICT
LW Nikita Filatov - C Jason Spezza - RW Milan Michalek
LW Nick Foligno - C Mika Zibanejad - RW Daniel Alfredsson
C Colin Greening - C Peter Regin(43) - RW Bobby Butler
C Jesse Winchester - C Zack Smith - RW Chris Neil
LD Chris Phillips - RD Sergei Gonchar
LD Filip Kuba - RD Erik Karlsson
LD Matt Carkner - LD David Rundblad
G Craig Anderson
G
Eric Belanger - C
Simon Gagne - LW
Jussi Jokinen - LW/C
Brooks Laich - LW/C
Ville Leino - LW/RW
Marty Reasoner - C
Maxime Talbot - LW/C
I think the rest of the Sens roster will stay as it is and the kids will be given a chance to step up.
They may look to sign two UFAs if Filatov doesn't impress at the development camp (assuming he accepts the invite).
Also, it would probably be nice for all the people who enjoy that to have a specific section where they can contrast/compar e with other fans.
It would be a win/win situation. (Might I also suggest we're not going after Richards and we're certainly not getting Richards and Gaborik, although it is funny to see them on someone's fantasy roster without us giving up anything).
Tsn video clip from darren dreger
I've brought that up in the past. There is a forum for them to do it but most prefer to just dump their thoughts in the comment section.
The point from my perspective is simple. People often post links to interesting articles in the comment section. There are also people who toss out little golden nuggets of information about the team I might not find anywhere else.
Having people post random rosters and fantasy GM trades that will never come to fruition clutters the comment section and makes it more difficult to read the information I'm actually interested in finding. Personally I'd like to see SC put a ban on all trade proposals and "my sens roster" but that'd be so much work moderating and its unfair to ask him to use his time that way. Plus people come here to kill time and talk hockey and some people really enjoy that stuff so I guess we should just live with it.
I'm excited for it... our first look at Rundblad.. and hopefully Murray can get Filatov to come over as well -- and all the young guys Sens drafted this year.
Filatov must have such a relief to come to a team that will actually give him a chance to show his skill.
From some other sites comments I have read...the fans in Columbus did not have much love for this kid.
You really have to feel for him. In a foreign country... not liked by your team management and coaching staff and the fans. How can anyone succeed in that 'uncomfortable' environment.
I'm really hoping he can have success with the Sens... then show Columbus what it really takes to develop players.
I expect that the Murrays will try to sign one of the following UFAs:
Erik Cole - LW
Simon Gagne - LW
Brooks Laich - LW/C
Ville Leino - LW/R
Maxime Talbot - LW/C
Erik Cole wanted to stay in Edmoton.
Bring back Ray!
There is a reason the fans and management didnt like him, he made it uncomfortable for himself. He has a terrible attitude, work ethic is also lacking. He's already been kicked in the ass and it didnt work. Will MacLean just let him loose? Maybe its what he needs? who knows.
All I know is bad work ethic + shitty attitude = failed experiment BUT for a 3rd rounder its acceptable.
That is one skilled player.. you can't teach skills like that...
Imagine Butler on one-side, Filatov on the other. Great scoring potential on both sides... Spezza will be grinning from ear to ear if this trade works out.
Apparently Hitchcock had him playing on the 3rd line with players like Chris Clark... he's not exactly an offensive player himself... how in the hell did the expect him to succeed when they did not play him with players that would better suit his skills.
Now would some of you still wanted Hitchcock coaching the Sens. Does this go to show you what a disaster that would have been having him around all the young players Ottawa will have this year?
Would they take Lee?
I'm all for keeping Gonchar now. He may be what Filatov needs to set him straight if he does come in with a 'chip on his shoulder'. He took Malkin into his home in Pitts... would he do the same with Filatov? I would think that would go a long way in setting this young guy back on the right path.
Besides.. Ottawa had 12 picks... more than enough to gamble with... most teams had 7 or 8 picks...
Nothing to lose with that...
Darren Dreger commented that the other GM's thought this trade was a steal.
What happened with TJ Oshie?
thats your name for a reason, and kuba was given up for gaborik, heads up lol.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Filatov made his way to the third line, as in they attempted to place him higher, then he 'earned' a demotion.
I feel like Filatov working in Ottawa is 50/50 and considering his talent, that's well worth the third rounder. Seems like even his detractors in this comments section are all willing to part with a 3rd rounder given his amazing skills.
Still, I'm not holding my breath
Re: Lee
- really don't think we should trade him, Michalek or Foligno, who seem to all be coming up regularly as expendable. I feel like if any of those three have a bad year in 2011-12, THEN we can look for a team to take a chance on them.
@ Tyrant. Right you are about moderating - I just thought a specific section for fantasy rosters would be as beneficial for the people who like it as well as those who hate it.
I love how nobody knows how to read.
Sensational, not picking on you, you're about the 30th guy to say this.
Howsen never said the trade was a mistake. The mistake was drafting Filitov in the first place, and the moving on part was dealing him.
Read the 2nd sentence "own up to the error in his ways, and deal filitov"
Personally would really like to see Condra in the lineup... but your 4th line would be one pain in the ass to play against...
I know what my name is - I chose it. Let's be a little more original with jokes about it (you and a dozen posters think just referencing it is funny). A little more effort would be appreciated...
Will people stop putting Silfverberg on their rosters, he's going back to the SEL.
Too fun I can't resist here's another.
http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator/roster.php?id=2660
Pretty SICK!
Signed Oshie, J. MacDonald, and Fleischmann (re-united Fly and Stast) who better to play with than Alfie!
Traded 9MM, Wiercioch and 2nd to Col for Stastny
Still over 8.5 Million in cap space left. Hope the Avs are dangling Stastny : )
With mobile defense like Karlsson and Rundblad retrieving and making quick outlet passes, Filatov needs only to backcheck into a support position to take a pass and head for neutral ice on the attack. Speed and hands that make the idea of playing with Spezza pretty intriguing.
We know we're not getting a player committed to coming back hard on the backcheck consistently, or - and especially - making opposition forwards work overly hard along the boards. Coaches can and will work around an offensive player's weaknesses through line combinations and match-ups if the potential for offense outweighs the risk (any sustained pressure in the defensive zone could get ugly).
If he can gain some confidence through production and feel like he belongs and is valued (which he didn't have previously) he may in fact be our steal of the draft.
Haw Haw!
He's probably be happy to go somewhere else, he's about to hit his expiration date in San Jose anyway. Pretty soon we'll hear about how he's not getting enough powerplay time and that's why his goal totals have bottomed out so badly.
Whew, thank god. You find the trade acceptable, I'm sure Murray will be happy to hear the venerable tookie has deemed his work to be acceptable. Also thank you for pointing out he's a risky acquisition. It didn't seem obvious to anyone, you know, a 6th overall pick just 3 years ago going for a 3rd round pick. I figured the Columbus GM was just drunk, but now that you clarified everything makes sense. Shitty return for a player that a few years was highly valued means that player has some baggage. It's all coming together now.
Attitude and effort level can be adjusted, but the raw skill this kid possesses makes the possibilities endless.
funny draft photo of z-bad.
So what you are saying is the coaching staff & management rushing an 18 yr old into the league had nothing to do with it. A coach that is not patience with young players. Maybe he is the type of player that needs guidance more than a kick in the ass.
I've also lost respect for Umberger. He may not have liked Filatov but to Twitter that he is glad the team got a 3rd round pick & that their team is now better. CLASSLESS.
Surely hope Carter does not pull a Heatley on them.
Maybe he did deserve that demotion.. but a skilled forward playing with defensive players... how does that work?
They should have just sent him to the AHL. If he would not go.. then shame on him.
He has to come to the Sens with a fresh attitude and hard work. He has this one last chance to make the NHL and if he does fail... he loses not the Sens. It's the KHL for the rest of his days.
The ball is in his court... but doesn't everyone deserve a second chance?
How do you think Karlsson would do under Hitchcock and his defensive system? Do you think it would be the same result -- 3 yrs later them trading Karlsson because he was a bust?
It's all about developing and teaching young players. Let them play to their strengths. Don't try to turn them into something they are not. Find a way to make their skills work to your system.
PATIENCE -- something this kid never had in Columbus..
Jeff Carter?
Do you think he may be a little upset with the trade. Probably blindsided him.
Question is, once his no-trade kicks in, and if things don't go well in Columbus... will he pull a Heatley? 11 yrs in a place you are not happy, is not something a player would be happy with.
He will be playing with Rick Nash so chances are they will be a good tandem... but you never know.
He went from a contender to a pretender.... how happy is he?
But that was through trade.
What he meant was what the franchise has been able to develop internally.
And even with Carter, outside of him Nash and Mason, they don't have much.
If and when a link to a actual interview with filatov becomes available would you mind linking it here?
As well, any word if he will attend development camp?
"I just talked to him and he’s very excited about getting a chance (in Ottawa)," said Murray. "He really felt that he needed a fresh start ... He’s a great kid. He’s a guy that has high-end skill that wants to be an NHL player, (a player) that’s had a big offer from the KHL and decided he wants to be an NHL player instead. It’s a chance for us to acquire something for a third-round pick that otherwise you couldn’t get."
The Senators hope to bring Filatov, who's in the final year of his entry-level contract, to Ottawa for their annual development camp next week to get an early look at him.
His got a high ceiling and has already been playing against men. What's the consensus on his ability for next season?
I don't think so. I really got the impression that he was at least 2 years away from being a threat in the NHL, but I suppose he could put on a clinic in camp and make the roster.
Filatov is not entirely without blame. He probably does have some entitlement issues that he needed to work through and grow up. I'm willing to let that slide as long as he comes to the rink every day to work. Just like Brian Lee he needs the opportunity to practice with and play with NHL pros every day. Focus on building up his confidence in his strengths and work on his deficiencies as he matures. Spezza went through the same thing with Jacques Martin. You have to let a player do what they do best not just beat them down because they aren't what you want them to be right away.
...looks like Alfie's the odd man out for top-6 role
Just get it over with and give the C to Spezza
Were're sure to have an NHL calibre line-up, obviously opening night in Detroit. Take a second to ponder what Andy did with with half a baby Sens line-up in front of him during his 18 games.
http://senators.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8467950
See that shit, 939 save%, G.A.A Just over 2. Now imagine what he can do with a full NHL line-up and a coach who knows what the fuck he's doing, Alfie who will be at 100%, something that hasn't happened in almost 2 years. Spezza who is peaking and looking to be right in his prime & Rundblad
Nuff said
"Semin didn't dominate by any stretch when he first came to NA. he got an extra year in russia which filatov didn't get because columbus has no idea how to handle young players properly. semin came over and struggled with 22pts in 52 games he was then sent to portland and refused to report which resulted in washington suspending him. he then went and played two more seasons in russia before coming back at the age of 23 and having a breakout year. so no tuna he didn't dominate the moment he stepped on an NHL ice surface. i actually see filatov as having a better attitude, at least he actually went to the minors and didn't bolt for Russia."
sens website news, I think it was murry who said he called him and he said something to that nature.
With those kinds of goaltending stats, We actually could have made the playoffs last season... even with the fewest goals scored in the league
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=933645&page=2
Note the reaction of most CBJ fans. General interpretation is just like everywhere else. A steal for Ottawa regardless of the end game outcome.
Couldn't agree more. Anyone who is sitting on cap geek all day throwing out random roster wish lists needs some more on their hands. Lets stay focused here people. I think Murray has been around the game long enough not to waste his time considering guys like gaborik for spots on the team.
I agree that the Sens are well on their way, but please, when you trade 5+ core players from a roster for draft picks, it's called a rebuild.
But you're bang on with Mr. Anderson. If he can play the way he did the latter part of the season I think we have a chance to be competitive for a playoff spot. The problem with the latter 18 games was that even with Mr. Anderson, we only scored a couple of goals a night on average, and won mostly by 1 or 2. Now a win is a win, but surely you need more goals to be successful.
That being said, I think the Sens can be successful if:
a) Anderson plays like he can
b) The top 6 stays healthy and produces
c) Our powerplay improves.
I think all these are very attainable.
The focus should be getting the top 6 a tad better. We just need that one guy to spark either besides Spezza and Butler or behind Spezz.
Big Z?
Insane amount of traffic on here this weekend. First real test for the new website and I would say it passed with flying colours.
Thanks to everyone that contributed this weekend!
I'm hoping that Murray only makes minor tweaks on July 1. I've said before that a versatile guy like Shannon is valuable because we really don't know if any of our prospects are ready to make the jump this season. Max Talbot is another guy who can fill a number of roles if called upon. He's still young, but has the experience of two trips to the cup final. Really gritty guy that I'm sure would play well with Zach Smith.
Thanks Chrip! What do you mean by "within reason"?
Filatov Spezza Butler Anderson Rundblad Cowen Karlsson a healthy Alfie and all the other young talent we have.
The only line that needs some tweaking is our second line, that and some more purging.
It may be a year of learning and mistakes but the year after Ziby Silverburg Petersson Noeson should all be ready to go.
I know everyone always says players are not ready to play yet, heard the same thing about Butler before he came up.
Lets not forget the Blackhawks players were all a bunch of young no names at one time, they did not win the cup with a bunch of old farts so called mentoring them.
I was in the arena in Chicago when they were down 5-0 playing Calgary, lots of people left the arena as it was a total blow out, Chicago came back and won the game 6-5
never underestimate all go no quit something to prove young talent.
Are you going to make a blog before the free agency
opens on July 1st witch free agents Murray might
target?
Yes indeed. New post coming up tomorrow.
can you dig into the latest on Condra/Butler? I know it seems inevitable, but whats the holdup?
Good question. Will try to find out something on that front tomorrow.
Boston, Wash, Pitts, Tampa. Those 4 are just about a lock.
New Jersey with a healthy Parise and a good coach get in.
Montreal probably will make it.
So right there is 6 teams.
I would have said before the 2 trades Philly was a lock but not so sure now. All depends on Bryzgalov.
Sens will be in a fight with Carolina, Rangers, Leafs, Winnipeg for 1 playoff spot.
But then again Sens finished 11 pts behind the Leafs - that's a 6 win difference for a team that was the lowest in goals scored in the league last season, & terrible goaltending from Oct - Jan. What really did the Sens in last year was the Spezza injury. They had 1 win in something like the 17 games he was out.
Maybe anything can happen IF you have the goaltending.
So there are pros they make it - and cons they don't - which is too many young players especially on D.
Murray to target.
Lol, the Leafs have said the same things every post season for the last 6 years. Give your head a shake!
I like the free country posting you get here, if you dont like a post scroll past it, its easy really.
We all just love the Sens, knowledgable or not.
visiting here you learn some things and it is just entertainment.
It is not like BM gets his trade ideas or line ideas from here or anything.
If this site was experts only there might only be one or two posting here if any. (excluding the ones that just think they are)
my two cents anyways.
We are not the laughs and we have BM not BB
Doesn't matter. We're dealing with a ton of intangibles. We've got a bunch of untested albeit Calder cup winners, a columbus bust and a goalie that was traded to us for Elliot of all people.
Don't get me wrong, I love the excitement surrounding the team heading into next season, but to suggest that anyone saying that we are probably going to see more of what we saw this year is anymore nuts then someone suggesting that our projected 3rd liners and a few college kids are NHL calibre...
Why would we bother with either.
lol 2 players we absolutely don't need.
I think Konopka would be a very good fit. With the youngsters playing a bigger role, they'll need extra toughness to protect them. On top of that, he is one of the best face-off guys in the NHL
I have faith in Murray and his staff. If they passed on Couturier, it's for good reason. Let's not forget the Jets passed on him too. Tells me something wasn't right with him
As for Zibanejad being like Fisher, dont worry about that either. Fisher had good hands and speed but was really a 3A type center. This guy has WAY more offensive skill, way better hands, to go along with a big and STRONG frame, still growing, strong skating and is physical every shift.
His upside is his offensive side. Think 60-70points, 30 goals type upside.
And with his endless desire to learn new things to improve and succeed (5 languages for example)
i have no doubt with proper development he will become that level of scorer.
Can we make the playoffs? Absolutely.
We have a great mix of vets and kids.
MR. ANDERSON in net. This guy is the real deal so stop worrying. For a guy who needed to boost his stats for f.a bargaining strength, to come to our struggling team, a team trading players left and right, and to put up 0.939sv% 2.05gaa over 18gp is proof he is that damn good. His technique is great ESPECIALLY his positioning, rebound control and his CONSISTENCY.
Alfie with his back finally fixed will be healthier than in the last 2 years.
Cowen and Rundblad hitting the scene and 2 of Kuba, Lee, Gonchar leaving it soon our defense will be better.
Our pk was good last year, but now our pp will be MUCH better. DETAILS.
thats filatov's formspring, it was comfirmed by CBJ a while back that it is his official account, he answers lots of questions, if you do ask him questions, dont spam him with stupid questions because some of the questions people are asking just make me angry. but surprisingly he does answer lots of them.
after that draft.. all we can say is how amazing our forwards are and the depth!
at the end of this season we were ranked 16th by hockeyfuture.co m in prospect rankings. i believe by next year, we will be ranked top 5. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/nhl_organisation_rankings/?start=12
Murray could easily offer sheet Marchand and Boston would have to eat it.. maybe be better to fake the offer sheet and force a trade for krejci or horton.
Boston has noooooooo money.
Its one thing to overpay for a guy you want, like richards.. but its sooooo much better to screw over another team in the process
I have been saying offer sheet Marchand for almost 3 months. Him or Ladd
Butler-Spezza-Filatov
Michalek-Da Costa-Alfredsso n
Foligno-Greenin g-Regin
Smith-Wincheste r-Neil
DEFENSEMEN
Gonchar-Karlsson
Phillips-Rundbl ad
Lee-Cowen
Carkner
GOALTENDERS
Anderson-Conklin
Your forgetting one thing, they beat us in the standings with about the same talent level in their lineup. So really, when your laughing at the Leafs, your laughing at the Sens.
I dont get people who think the Sens are better than the Leafs, Im no Leaf fan but hell, even I can see they have a solid upcoming team and were better than us last year.
What's wrong with Bieksa? A little inconsistent, but intimidating, exceptionally strong and well-rounded. We don't have anyone comparable. Most of our D are either very offensive or very defensive, but no one particularly well-rounded. He's a beast and if you don't believe me, watch finals highlights where he repeatedly knocks down big bodies like Lucic, even though they see him coming and brace for a hit. He's not young or old, so he'd still be good when our talent develops.
Its all where and by who you get drafted! Couturier with Winnipeg would have sucked with us he would have sucked, but with the talent in Philly he will probably bloom and be a great player. Winnipeg reached with Scheifele, that couldnt have been a worst first pick in their franchises comeback.
Really?
And that's why you're not GM.
Maybe you're right, but the quote above is implying you know better than Murray and our entire scouting apparatus. No matter what the pick, SOMEone's not going to like it.
Anyone else catch the discussion about fisher during the draft...complet e body surgery.
I would like to see both teams meet in the playoffs again. Battle of Ontario needs a reboot!
Yeah, really, is it that hard to believe, the Leafs of old are gone, no reason to hate them now, the rivalry is all but gone, the new kids on both teams couldnt care less about the battle of Ontario.
And if you dont agree that the Leafs were actually fun to watch last year, then your just a jackass just trying to cause trouble. Many of the longtime posters on here even gave their opinion on the Leafs being a more exciting team. Anyone who knows hockey outside of the Sens can see this.
If your looking at what the Sens will be like with all these kids, you dont have to look far, Leafs 2010...
He's no rookie, but not all D are fully developed at 24. Not to mention he handled his long-term benching like a seasoned vet and played solid hockey to round out the season. We weren't the only team who should've taken Kopitar or Staal...
Wow I never bash on guys for bad grammar but man....that was some heavy butchering!!
Tookie your such a leaf fan.....
I will admit that they are getting better but no matter what, I will always HATE the leafs that's what a rivalry is
No, I meant really to your assertion that you aren't a Leafs fan, hence why I cut out the rest of your post and only quoted you on that specific line. The rest of your post was true, it's hard to dispute the Leafs were better last season when they were, you know, better last season. It's hard to argue that 74 points is better than 85 points.
That wasn't bad grammar, but a few misspellings (mostly on names). He even pointed one of them out.
Why are you so harsh all the time? These posts are for fun, don't be a bully.
things are looking up boys, lets go sens!
Winnipeg passed on him as well. So did the other 5 teams ahead of the Sens... if he was really that good.. someone in front would have taken him.
Sens scouts have watched him a lot. They saw him in the playoffs in Gatineau as well.. where I guess Pageau outplayed him....from what I heard.
But you don't know until about 3 yrs down the road. He will be a 3rd line centre on the Flyers and would have been a 2nd in Ottawa...
I think DaCosta at least starts in Binghamton.
It may be soon that the Sens have too many forward prospects... maybe next year some can be traded to a team in cap hell to upgrade to another top 6 forward... you never know... too many means great competition -- makes for a better team. If those young guys don't perform... someone else will take their place.
Tookie,
The Sens were the lowest scoring team in the NHL... and had terrible goaltending from Oct to Jan... and they still only had 6 less losses than the Leafs. I'm sure that would be much different had Leclaire not gotten injured -- AGAIN or Anderson was here from the start.
Remember that 17 game stretch without Spezza when the Sens had just one win... that was the real difference right there.
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Lol I was in a hurry and by the way there were no grammer mistakes only spelling mistakes